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Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 04:19 PM
Back to square one I suppose...

Forenci
05-21-2012, 04:21 PM
That's alright. I didn't actually think he was, but he has played unusual this game. My top suspicion is r4L or CJ. Grizz has been pretty quiet too. What did you say your role was , Grizz?

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:21 PM
So top choice is CJ but is there any other thoughts?

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 04:22 PM
Imma be honest, Grizz has my suspicions as well.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:24 PM
I guess it is role reveal time. does anyone have the chart?

Forenci
05-21-2012, 04:25 PM
My best thoughts at Grizz, r4L and CJ. What are your guys' roles? At this point it doesn't hurt to reveal.

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 04:26 PM
That's alright. I didn't actually think he was, but he has played unusual this game. My top suspicion is r4L or CJ. Grizz has been pretty quiet too. What did you say your role was , Grizz?

My biggest suspicion has been CJ due to his inactivity although the way R4L was backing up vidae/IBC was also suspicious to me.

I haven't role-claimed yet. I will say that I'm the one that got the vaccine day one though, been refraining from mentioning that in hopes the zombies would attempt to target me since I was immune.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:26 PM
Okay, here's the list of people still in the game.


4. Grizz- Claim immune townie
5. Raiderz- Claims to be Townie. Could be ERO
6. Cigaro- mayor
9. Broth- claim regular townie
10. Snicho- Townie???
11. Forenci- ???
12. CJ- role claim survivor/scavenger evil per cigaro

Anyone able to fill in the blanks here?

So here is where we are at.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 04:26 PM
I'm just a townie.

I have nothing to do but survive.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 04:27 PM
Imma finally take my car into a shop...i'll try to keep up on my phone

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:27 PM
I honestly forgot that Snicho was playing.

Forenci
05-21-2012, 04:28 PM
My biggest suspicion has been CJ due to his inactivity although the way R4L was backing up vidae/IBC was also suspicious to me.

I haven't role-claimed yet. I will say that I'm the one that got the vaccine day one though, been refraining from mentioning that in hopes the zombies would attempt to target me since I was immune.

Maybe it's time to use the vaccine? Can you use it on someone else?

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 04:29 PM
Maybe it's time to use the vaccine? Can you use it on someone else?

I was asking BB about that because I was hoping to use it to cure someone but apparently it was a self-consume type of thing to make it so that I couldn't be infected.

Forenci
05-21-2012, 04:32 PM
Ah. Well that's good. I'm willing to give Grizz the benefit of the doubt in this case. What is your role, Broth?

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:34 PM
Ah. Well that's good. I'm willing to give Grizz the benefit of the doubt in this case. What is your role, Broth?

Regular vanilla townie. I have no abilities or quirks.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 04:36 PM
Since we're role revealing, I might as well come out. I am the Mayor of Dracown. By role is that of bureaucrat, which means I can follow one person a night, and if they are an investigator, I get a copy of their reports. ngata and SP reported everything they got, except for their reports from the nights they were killed. Might as well provide them.

Ngata:
vidae- clean
snicho- clean

SP:
CJ- evil

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 04:38 PM
So guessing CJ is an ERO member

CJSchneider
05-21-2012, 04:39 PM
Well, I can relax comfortably in the accuracy of that set of reports.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:40 PM
So guessing CJ is an ERO member

It also says vidae is good.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 04:40 PM
Well, I can relax comfortably in the accuracy of that set of reports.

3 minutes after I finally reveal SP's findings, you emerge from the woods...

CJSchneider
05-21-2012, 04:41 PM
Ngata:
vidae- clean wrong
snicho- clean hell if I know????

SP:
CJ- evil obviously wrong



Here's how I see it.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:41 PM
Time to claim CJ

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 04:41 PM
It also says vidae is good.

It said he was clean. Remember, ngata investigated infections.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:42 PM
It said he was clean. Remember, ngata investigated infections.

Very good point.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 04:42 PM
Now they're out and about, might as well vote on them.

Vote: CJ

CJSchneider
05-21-2012, 04:44 PM
I am a survivor/scavenger. I have a 1 time escape from infection / assignation. I used that already as Cain tried to nail me early I assume. I can also trade items gifted to me for a dose of serum. To the best of my knowledge I am not That's why I have been so low key this game.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:44 PM
before we lynch CJ I want a role reveal from Forenci/

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 04:45 PM
Vote Count:

CJ (1) - Cigaro

With 7 alive, 4 are needed for majority

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 04:45 PM
before we lynch CJ I want a role reveal from Forenci/

He's already claimed townie.

Forenci
05-21-2012, 04:46 PM
Getting rid of CJ sounds good to me. That's pretty damning evidence and we don't have much else to go on. I'm going to go ahead and take the plunge.

Vote: CJ

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 04:46 PM
Vote Count:

CJ (2) - Cigaro, Forenci

With 7 alive, 4 are needed for majority

Forenci
05-21-2012, 04:47 PM
I am a townie. Which makes me suspicious of either Broth or r4L. I feel like this is way too many townies in the game.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 04:47 PM
I am a survivor/scavenger. I have a 1 time escape from infection / assignation. I used that already as Cain tried to nail me early I assume. I can also trade items gifted to me for a dose of serum. To the best of my knowledge I am not That's why I have been so low key this game.

That's pretty powerful roles for a survivor/scavenger. Usually they're little more than townies, just nonaligned. Also, which one is it, survivor/scavenger? I assume your role should have been made pretty clear.

CJSchneider
05-21-2012, 04:47 PM
<starts singing like Beyonce "I'm a survivor!">

OK, but when I go, get ready to become "brain steak" to the zombies.

CJSchneider
05-21-2012, 04:50 PM
That's pretty powerful roles for a survivor/scavenger.

Not really. I hope I could get something from Jr, before he turned SP into Deadpool, but oh well. I took survivor further than anyone else. I'm happy with that.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 04:50 PM
I am a townie. Which makes me suspicious of either Broth or r4L. I feel like this is way too many townies in the game.

I'll defend myself now there's a reason I thought EATW was a townie.

CJSchneider
05-21-2012, 04:54 PM
I don't know who, but after I go, two of you are screwed, because the only thing left (merely by looking at the odds) are me, an ERO, and one other townie.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 04:56 PM
Snicho has totally disappeared...what gives

Snicho
05-21-2012, 05:01 PM
Vote CJ....

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:02 PM
He emerges.

Snicho
05-21-2012, 05:02 PM
I was sleeping!
Sorry i seem to have missed Everything!

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:02 PM
Vote Count:

CJ (3) - Cigaro, Forenci, Snicho

With 7 alive, 4 are needed for majority

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:03 PM
Vote CJ....

Interesting...get called out...show up

vote cj

CJSchneider
05-21-2012, 05:04 PM
Lynch:Snicho

For the record, the only person I completely trust is Jr. He is the only one who's ability has stacked up the whole game.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:04 PM
FINAL Vote Count:

CJ (4) - Cigaro, Forenci, Snicho, R4L

With 7 alive, 4 are needed for majority

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:04 PM
CJ's either ERO or truly a scavenger who was framed. Either way, he's not a towns person. With little room for error, IMO we might as well stick with what we know.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:07 PM
Decisions were being made more quickly as the town's numbers grew smaller. With some damning evidence, claimed to have been found by SuperPacker before his death, the town decided that CJ would die on this day.

The soldier saluted one last time as the gallows floor dropped beneath him and the noose grew tight around his neck...

http://i.imgur.com/7w5R5.jpg
CJ - ERO Comm Officer (Framer) - Has been Lynched.

Night 7 has begun. Get your actions in ASAP!

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:24 PM
Day 8. No one could have imagined the meetings lasting this long. Sure enough, the town finds themselves one fewer in number...

Forenci was missing. After stepping up into the leadership void the previous day, he painted himself a target.

They head to his humble shanty and there he lies. Viscous liquid still coating his face and a gunshot wound to the temple.

Forenci - Refugee (Miller) (Infected) - Has been Killed.

Day 8 has begun. With 5 alive, 3 are needed for majority.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:25 PM
Well, from what I can tell...we have 1 ERO left...doubt its a vigilante, but one less zombie. Forenci was a miller so he was lying about being a townie as well.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 05:26 PM
OK so its either R4L or Snicho. What say you Cigaro?

Snicho
05-21-2012, 05:27 PM
Vote: R4L....

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:27 PM
I'm going to say snicho tbh. I'm not sure I quite buy his story. lynch snicho

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:27 PM
Snicho, dunno, he sleeps too much. I do know r4l gunned for ATL though.

Snicho
05-21-2012, 05:27 PM
I am a townie as ive said a butt load of times already. Can we just get this over with!

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:28 PM
Vote: raiderz

Snicho
05-21-2012, 05:28 PM
Snicho, dunno, he sleeps too much. I do know r4l gunned for ATL though.

Cigaro I live in Australia! I just woke up its 8:30am. I dont sleep too much thank you very much

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 05:28 PM
Lets not be hasty lets look at voting records.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:28 PM
I am a townie as ive said a butt load of times already. Can we just get this over with!

You're a liar. I'm a townie and so is broth. Forenci lied about being a townie and I'm sure only broth and I are left as true townies.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:28 PM
Vote Count:

(2) R4L - Snicho, Cigaro
(1) Snicho - R4L

With 5 alive, 3 are needed for majority

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 05:29 PM
Also what was the date of the Snicho clean?

Snicho
05-21-2012, 05:29 PM
********

You guys never learn. If you kill me, you make the exact same mistake you did with Caddy. Of course R4L wouldnt believe me! Considering he is EVIL!

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:30 PM
Also what was the date of the Snicho clean?

The night ngata died, whenever that was. I can check.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:30 PM
you forgot my snicho vote BB

Snicho
05-21-2012, 05:30 PM
Ngata cleared me. But i revealed Townie Day 2 when ATL/Gonzo asked.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:30 PM
It was Night 3.

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 05:31 PM
Vote r4l.,)

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:31 PM
For what it's worth, CJ voted for snicho.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:31 PM
Vote Count:

(3) R4L - Snicho, Cigaro, Grizz
(1) Snicho - R4L

With 5 alive, 3 are needed for majority

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:31 PM
********

You guys never learn. If you kill me, you make the exact same mistake you did with Caddy. Of course R4L wouldnt believe me! Considering he is EVIL!

I'm not evil. Killing me is a mistake.

Snicho is our best shot imo.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 05:31 PM
Snicho remind me you role claim townie as well?

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:31 PM
FINAL Vote Count:

(3) R4L - Snicho, Cigaro, Grizz
(1) Snicho - R4L

With 5 alive, 3 are needed for majority

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:41 PM
The day had barely begun when everyone gunned for Raiderz...

"FOOLS!" he shouted. "With my death, you've ensured the zombie apocalypse!"

The town didn't care. Raiderz could only fall back, draw his handgun and take his own life...

http://i.imgur.com/TdIB5.jpg
Raiderz - ERO Commander (Immunized Godfather) - Has been Lynched.

Snicho and Broth turned to celebrate the death of the last ERO member when they were jumped by Grizz. He spit viscous liquid into their faces...their skin burned, their eyes popped and they vomited yellow foam until they died...

Broth and Snicho - Townies - Have been Killed.

Grizz looked up to his infected partner in Cigaro. Cigaro's mayoral knowledge of the town would give them credibility, allowing them to infect the town's water supply and infect everyone else...

With an army of that size, any other settlements and raider camps would soon fall. The infection was winning, and its sights were set on the ERO HQ...

ZOMBIES WIN!

http://i.imgur.com/FDrvB.jpg
Grizz - Infection Spreader - WINS!

http://i.imgur.com/OVReQ.jpg
Cigaro - Mayor (Infected) - WINS!

Well guys, that was a **** ton of fun. Feel free to discuss.

Actions Sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkBmBGPV6_L9dEtZZU10cE5aWlcxZXp5SmlHYks3R lE

Snicho
05-21-2012, 05:42 PM
Boooooooooooooooooooooo!

Haha Thanks BB!!

vidae
05-21-2012, 05:43 PM
Good game Cigaro/Grizz. We had suspicions about Grizz early on but no one suspected Cigaro.

I told you if you lynched IBC and I that the town would lose in two days and it happened.

Good game everyone.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:43 PM
No one suspects a zombie mayor!

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 05:43 PM
******* ERO. You killed all the talkative people and paved the way for the zombies to just turn all the quiet peeps.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:43 PM
Haha I knew Grizz was infected it was between him and Forenci with my last kill

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 05:43 PM
Well done Zombies. I really suck at mafia

jrdrylie
05-21-2012, 05:44 PM
Hey BB, what did the porno, whiskey, and cologne do?

SuperPacker
05-21-2012, 05:44 PM
Back me up BB, i'm going to bed.

vidae
05-21-2012, 05:45 PM
******* ERO. You killed all the talkative people and paved the way for the zombies to just turn all the quiet peeps.

I mean, if we're being honest, you townies did nothing to stop the zombies at all. You guys acted like you had no idea there was an infection until IBC and I started to plead with you guys to start killing zombies.

vidae
05-21-2012, 05:45 PM
Back me up BB, i'm going to bed.

Back you up? You got the ERO but the bigger threat won. You don't get backed up. You had tunnel vision and the town lost because of it. NO BACK UPS.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:47 PM
Hey BB, what did the porno, whiskey, and cologne do?

Cologne allowed me to go chill with the ladies for a night, i.e. commute.

fenikz
05-21-2012, 05:47 PM
im always mafia enemy #1, have never lived past the 2nd night while not being mafia

knew vidae, bulldogs & cigaro were evil too :(

Shane P. Hallam
05-21-2012, 05:47 PM
I mean, if we're being honest, you townies did nothing to stop the zombies at all. You guys acted like you had no idea there was an infection until IBC and I started to plead with you guys to start killing zombies.

ATL wasn't even infected, so it would have just hurt the town more from when you an IBC were arguing to kill him.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:47 PM
Oh yeah, it was hilarious to watch how many people thought SP was lying throughout the game, when I knew he told the truth literally 100% of the time.

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 05:47 PM
I mean, if we're being honest, you townies did nothing to stop the zombies at all. You guys acted like you had no idea there was an infection until IBC and I started to plead with you guys to start killing zombies.

Hey, don't say you guys. I had no chance to do anything. I was hoping to take out the zombie early but by not talking at all Grizz avoiding my suspicions. I do think the town needed to keep talk more later in the game to work things out and yes keeping one ERO was key because with all of you ******* dead the zombies cruised to victory.

vidae
05-21-2012, 05:48 PM
ATL wasn't even infected, so it would have just hurt the town more from when you an IBC were arguing to kill him.

Yeah, that happened right after we killed Bulldogs. ERO zombie deaths: 2. The rest of you: 0. Come at me again.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:48 PM
im always mafia enemy #1, have never lived past the 2nd night while not being mafia

knew vidae, bulldogs & cigaro were evil too :(

I wasn't evil while you were alive.

Shane P. Hallam
05-21-2012, 05:49 PM
Yeah, that happened right after we killed Bulldogs. ERO zombie deaths: 2. The rest of you: 0. Come at me again.

Lol. As you said, that was part of your job. If you hadn't killed townies, the zombies wouldn't have won :)

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:49 PM
Let this be a lesson...if you follow SP...don't expect Alexander the Great. You'll get Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna instead.

fenikz
05-21-2012, 05:49 PM
oh, well you visted Ngata night 2 along with bulldogs and that doesn't seem to have anything to do with a Mayor

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:49 PM
Hey BB, what did the porno, whiskey, and cologne do?

For the curious:

http://i.imgur.com/Rb5Xt.jpg
Binoculars - Allowed One-Shot Watcher.

http://i.imgur.com/ief0W.jpg
Cologne - Made you smell good and attractive to the single ladies. You get to spend the night with them and "commute" that night, safe from all actions.

http://i.imgur.com/FhC1P.jpg
Energy Drink - One shot motivation.

http://i.imgur.com/0RPT9.jpg
Porno Magazine - Used to fap, makes you less aggressive and you can't vote the next day.

http://i.imgur.com/VyNVq.jpg
Shotgun - Allowed One-Shot Vigilante, or hunter shot if killed during the day before it is used.

http://i.imgur.com/OdmvB.jpg
Whiskey - Makes you drunk and hungover. You are silenced the following day except for votes. You can't say anything else.

Also,

http://i.imgur.com/QWVOn.jpg
Raiderz had the flashbang and chose to use it that day. Forgot to mention it in his write up.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 05:50 PM
Vidae did you think ATL was infected or was that just a ploy?

ImBrotherCain
05-21-2012, 05:50 PM
I knew Grizz was infected... I lied about ATL to just take someone with me when I died but after I was attacked and he came at me the next day I was 90% sure.

I then messaged him after I died and he confirmed... Dick.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 05:50 PM
oh, well you visted Ngata night 2 along with bulldogs and that doesn't seem to have anything to do with a Mayor

It was my bureaucrat role. It allowed me to get copies of a chosen investigator's findings.

Rob S
05-21-2012, 05:51 PM
Hey BB, what did the porno, whiskey, and cologne do?

I would have fapped, but then wouldn't have been able to cast a lynch vote the following day.

Shane P. Hallam
05-21-2012, 05:51 PM
I do think had we killed GG instead of Caddy, there is a good shot the town could have won this. That was the fatal mistake as a whole. It just snowballed from there.

vidae
05-21-2012, 05:51 PM
Lol. As you said, that was part of your job. If you hadn't killed townies, the zombies wouldn't have won :)

I actually believe they would have won sooner. IBC and I were targeted multiple times trying to be turned, but we were immune. I didn't even have to block those. With us gone earlier more townies are turned sooner and the game ends with the same result.

Most of you, yourself definitely included, only cared about taking out the ERO. You let the zombies run wild, not us. We actually actively killed a few. Come. At. Me.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:52 PM
We rly thougght Grizz and ATL were zombies.

Shane P. Hallam
05-21-2012, 05:53 PM
I actually believe they would have won sooner. IBC and I were targeted multiple times trying to be turned, but we were immune. I didn't even have to block those. With us gone earlier more townies are turned sooner and the game ends with the same result.

Most of you, yourself definitely included, only cared about taking out the ERO. You let the zombies run wild, not us. We actually actively killed a few. Come. At. Me.

I believe you are incorrect. That is all. I'd appreciate if you stopped being an ass about it though.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:54 PM
Don't let vidae's "holier than thou" act go.

The ERO's mission NEVER changed. They were to eliminate all resistance, town and zombies. The zombies might not have won had they survived, but the town still wouldn't have won.

vidae
05-21-2012, 05:55 PM
There is no way in hell I'm acting holier than thou.

And yes, the objective change was a lie, but honestly, who didn't know that? You should have known when you saw that IBC and I were immunized.

It was a shot in the dark but don't act like it wasn't at least plausible.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:55 PM
Y'all ruined my first game as GF lol

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:56 PM
Also, I think that was about as balanced as you can get considering all 3 parties entered the final day with a chance to win. (Raiderz killed a recently turned Forenci, but he needed to vote out one of Grizz/Cigaro with Snicho and Broth.)

Freaking photo finish.

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 05:56 PM
There are several places where the town lost. If we killed GG then we would have lost Forenci to the attack. The real place we lost is killing two millers day 2 that is what really killed us.

jrdrylie
05-21-2012, 05:56 PM
Yes, let's all blame SP for the loss and not the ERO who because of their massive lie on Day Two caused the deaths of four townies. Plus you sacrificed and killed the two players who could tell if people were infected. Yeah, totally SP's fault the zombies won.

vidae
05-21-2012, 05:57 PM
Yes, let's all blame SP for the loss and not the ERO who because of their massive lie on Day Two caused the deaths of four townies. Plus you sacrificed and killed the two players who could tell if people were infected. Yeah, totally SP's fault the zombies won.

Er, the ERO didn't do that. Ngata was clearly killed by a zombie. I don't even know who the other one was, but GG could tell who was turned/infected, and you guys killed him.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 05:58 PM
I don't think SuperPacker did all that bad. He could have chosen better investigation targets early I suppose, but everything he said he found in his investigations was truthful.

The town just took sooooo long to start listening to him though.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:58 PM
No lol GG's dumbass walked to his death

jrdrylie
05-21-2012, 05:59 PM
Er, the ERO didn't do that. Ngata was clearly killed by a zombie. I don't even know who the other one was, but GG could tell who was turned/infected, and you guys killed him.

We didn't kill GG. You guys basically sacrificed him and then the next day, knowing he would be lynched, he volunteered to destroy the catapults.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 05:59 PM
Also, even though I was the GF....I really let Vid and Cain run most the show since they're better players than I am. Think them two are mostly why we were in such a good position to win. CJ did his thing too.

We didn't sacrifice GG. He went off on his own and improved everything. That wasn't planned lol

vidae
05-21-2012, 05:59 PM
We didn't kill GG. You guys basically sacrificed him and then the next day, knowing he would be lynched, he volunteered to destroy the catapults.

We never told him to do that. He went rogue on us. We were pissed when he did it. It was completely unnecessary.

But we did not kill Ngata. The zombies tried to turn him and it didn't take. They killed him.

jrdrylie
05-21-2012, 06:00 PM
I don't think SuperPacker did all that bad. He could have chosen better investigation targets early I suppose, but everything he said he found in his investigations was truthful.

The town just took sooooo long to start listening to him though.

He got so unlucky picking two Millers in one night. I obviously believed him from the beginning because I sent him the three best items I had.

ImBrotherCain
05-21-2012, 06:00 PM
We didn't kill GG. You guys basically sacrificed him and then the next day, knowing he would be lynched, he volunteered to destroy the catapults.

No... He sacrificed himself. Vid and I were debating on going ourselves.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 06:00 PM
I don't think SuperPacker did all that bad. He could have chosen better investigation targets early I suppose, but everything he said he found in his investigations was truthful.

The town just took sooooo long to start listening to him though.

Yep. No one ever seriously moved to lynch him though, so I just kept it all to myself. Its one reason why I'm not a fan of holding prejudices against players, they will actually get important roles.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 06:01 PM
I remember that was sooooo funny.

GG volunteers himself and we're like 0.0 NO! GG you moron!!!

Threw off our plan for that day way off.

vidae
05-21-2012, 06:02 PM
SP picked some awful targets to investigate, even your fellow townies agreed. He wasn't a threat to us at all until the 5th night or whatever. He didn't look into any of us, instead picking targets like Todd and Bantx. I have no idea why.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:03 PM
BTW, during the raider attack, anyone with police or military training mentioned in their background would have survived the attack. I decided GG didn't count since he was a scientist. Any of the militia members or ERO members would succeeded in the mission and lived.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 06:03 PM
SP didn't really hit on anyone I think...maybe CJ but we killed him before he could reveal it. He mostly piggy backed off of everyone else.

ImBrotherCain
05-21-2012, 06:07 PM
To be fair SP played fine... Other than revealing day one and occasionlly being behind the 8 ball he was fine.

I harped on him for how he defended ATL

SuperPacker
05-21-2012, 06:07 PM
No one argued with my investigations at the time. Todd was laying low and adding nothing to the game. (which he doesnt normally do)

Bantx was playing the game how i played the frieza game so i suspected him.

I also didn't want to get framed making my investigations invalid and probably making the town lynch me. As it tufns out i picked two millers which was the worst luck you could ever wish for.

Calling me the worst investigator for not finding 3 mafia in the first 3 days is just wrong and stupid.

Forenci
05-21-2012, 06:08 PM
Despite Vidae's protests, I feel like killing the ERO was the priority. They seemed to do a lot of damage and were enemies as well. There also seemed to be fewer zombies and infected, making killing the ERO a priority.

This is why I refuse to trust Vidae when he makes a claim and there is evidence against him. No offense, but you are quite good at lying.

Todd Bertuzzi
05-21-2012, 06:09 PM
I said I was going to the cottage for the night and suddenly I'm laying low...

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 06:09 PM
Catching up quickly. Didn't see it mentioned so I guess I'll do it. If BeerBaron didn't make the call to have me infected Night One the zombies were going nowhere soon. Out of spite I decided I was going to jailkeep Grizz the entire game because he did the same to me in the Vampire game. Hilariously he had essentially the same role I did as Dracula. BB decided though to have me infected when I jailkept him. It was the right call imo. Congrats zombies on the win.

vidae
05-21-2012, 06:09 PM
Despite Vidae's protests, I feel like killing the ERO was the priority. They seemed to do a lot of damage and were enemies as well. There also seemed to be fewer zombies and infected, making killing the ERO a priority.

This is why I refuse to trust Vidae when he makes a claim and there is evidence against him. No offense, but you are quite good at lying.

You were a zombie, so of course the ERO are the priority. :p

Forenci
05-21-2012, 06:09 PM
You were a zombie, so of course the ERO are the priority. :p

Actually I was a townie this entire time until Grizz infected me just now. You can ask BB on that one.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 06:10 PM
No one argued with my investigations at the time. Todd was laying low and adding nothing to the game. (which he doesnt normally do)

Bantx was playing the game how i played the frieza game so i suspected him.

I also didn't want to get framed making my investigations invalid and probably making the town lynch me. As it tufns out i picked two millers which was the worst luck you could ever wish for.

Calling me the worst investigator for not finding 3 mafia in the first 3 days is just wrong and stupid.

Not really the investigations that make you one of the worst. Like I said, its the way you present the info.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:10 PM
Yeah, Forenci was infected and killed by Raiderz the same night.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 06:11 PM
Actually I was a townie this entire time until Grizz infected me just now. You can ask BB on that one.

You LIAR!!! You were a miller haha

and I was tossing it between you and Grizz and said **** it...I'm taking Forenci with me!!

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 06:11 PM
Catching up quickly. Didn't see it mentioned so I guess I'll do it. If BeerBaron didn't make the call to have me infected Night One the zombies were going nowhere soon. Out of spite I decided I was going to jailkeep Grizz the entire game because he did the same to me in the Vampire game. Hilariously he had essentially the same role I did as Dracula. BB decided though to have me infected when I jailkept him. It was the right call imo. Congrats zombies on the win.

Pagetrap...

vidae
05-21-2012, 06:11 PM
Actually I was a townie this entire time until Grizz infected me just now. You can ask BB on that one.

You were a miller, not a townie! LIIIESSSS!

Brothgar
05-21-2012, 06:11 PM
SP picked some awful targets to investigate, even your fellow townies agreed. He wasn't a threat to us at all until the 5th night or whatever. He didn't look into any of us, instead picking targets like Todd and Bantx. I have no idea why.

The theory behind Todd and Bantx (I think) was to eliminate the possibility of a framer.

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 06:12 PM
Good game everyone, I'm still a little surprised I survived the whole time/won. A lot of my attempts failed. I attempted to convert Cain and R4L on separate occasions (which is how we knew to target them to vote them out). My attempts on ngata and jrdrylie failed and killed them and I turned Forenci the night R4L killed him. There was never more than me and another person alive (converted Cigaro the night bulldogs got killed) haha

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 06:12 PM
Also anybody that voted Caddy that wasn't evil made a pretty clear mistake. It was obvious GG was caught in a lie when Ngata came out.

Forenci
05-21-2012, 06:12 PM
You were a miller, not a townie! LIIIESSSS!

No sir. My role said I was a townie.

SuperPacker
05-21-2012, 06:12 PM
Not really the investigations that make you one of the worst. Like I said, its the way you present the info.

I presented my info clearly, but the town decided to ignore so i had to speaking out my ass until they listened.

It worked, so i couldnt care less.

vidae
05-21-2012, 06:13 PM
No sir. My role said I was a townie.

Why did it say Miller when you died in the write-up?

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:14 PM
No sir. My role said I was a townie.

Refugee actually. The refugees were new to town and not trusted...check you death write up. You were actually a miller.

SuperPacker
05-21-2012, 06:15 PM
Also anybody that voted Caddy that wasn't evil made a pretty clear mistake. It was obvious GG was caught in a lie when Ngata came out.

Yep, i hold my hands up. In hindsight i shoudnt have done that.

I think that was my only big mistake. Me being SUCH a bad player is massively overexaggerated.

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 06:18 PM
Also anybody that voted Caddy that wasn't evil made a pretty clear mistake. It was obvious GG was caught in a lie when Ngata came out.

I knew he was lying but I was thinking Caddy was maybe a zombie and GG lying was going to get him killed so I didnt really care.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:18 PM
Here was everyone's backstory btw:

Mayor:
Back Story - Before the outbreak, you were a low-level state politician, slowly working your way through the ranks and gaining credibility. When the disaster struck, you fled into the mountains with your family and friends to an old abandoned mining camp. With a freshwater spring nearby and miles of forest between you and civilization, you were able to start a new life.You worked hard to restore and expand the settlement, building a palisade around the city and forming a militia to defend it. Slowly, others found their way to your settlement seeking the relative safety it provides. You're viewed as the de facto leader of the settlement, though with the heavy influx of outside refugees recently, your power to contain the situation is waning...

Cop:
Back Story - Prior to the outbreak, you served honorably in the Marine corps. After your discharge, you joined the local police force in your small hometown, eventually rising to the rank of Sheriff. You helped to evacuate civilians during the initial quarantine stages of the outbreak and eventually had to flee the town yourself. You ended up in Dracown and were placed in charge of the militia defense force thanks to your military and police experience.

Jailor:
Back Story - Prior to the outbreak, you served in a major metropolitan police force as a SWAT team member. You were wounded in the thigh during the raid of a drug warehouse, ending your active service. You spent the final few years before the outbreak as a requisitions officer for the police. Though your injury hampers your mobility, you are still a crack shot and are trusted to watch over the settlement's jail.

Scout:
Back Story - Prior to the outbreak, you served in the Army Rangers, giving you incredible wilderness survival skills and reconnaissance. The outbreak occurred when you were home on leave from the military, happening so quickly that you couldn't rejoin your unit before being cut off. You took the wilderness in order to avoid the big cities which were huge plague centers, eventually winding up at Dracown where you serve the peacekeeping militia as a scout.

Bodyguard:
Back Story - You had just started your career as a big city beat cop when the outbreak hit. You helped to evacuate civilians until the city had become so plague infested that you were forced to flee. You spent time traveling through different settlements before ending up in Dracown, where you joined the peacekeeping militia force to defend the town.

Medic:
Back Story - Prior to the infection, you were an army trained medic turned small town physician after serving. Your trained eye can spot the hard-to-detect signs of the infection's early stages. Though you don't have the ability to cure the infection, knowing who carries it may help you convince the town of who to kill for their own protection.

Militia Backup:
Back Story - You are a youngster, but have proven to have genius level intelligence and learning capabilities. You were only 8 when the infection outbreak occurred, so you only know of the world that came after. Thanks to your intelligence, you've been able to pick up a number of skills very quickly and are able to help the militia defend the town by whatever means are required.

Junk Dealer:
Back Story - Prior to the infection, you owned a pawn shop. You fixed up most of your merchandise yourself, a skill that has served you well since the infection. You travel between settlements trading goods using Dracown as your home base.

Nosy Neighbor:
Back Story - You have always been a suspicious sort, and the outbreak of the infection certainly didn't help that. You're suspicious of everybody and will use any opportunity you have to spy on them to see what they are up to.

Mason:
ck Story - You are one of the town's oldest members. (ATL) is a friend of yours going back several decades. You two have such a strong bond that you share an almost ESP like ability to communicate information.

Refugee:
Back Story - You recently fled to Dracown from your previous settlement as it was sacked by the ERO. You personally witnessed them committing unspeakable atrocities to any of the villagers who resisted them. You barely escaped with only the clothes on your back. With so many other new people flooding into Dracown, you don't feel especially welcome here...

Townie:
Back Story - You have been in Dracown for several years now after fleeing there with your family. The new influx of refugees and new faces has you, and everyone else, feeling extremely uneasy...

Infection Spreader:
Back Story - You are the chosen embodiment of the "infection" - a sentient parasite that can telepathically control anyone who is infected, even over thousands of miles. Some people are too weak for you to host and may be killed after being infected, but those that live through it become tools to further spread the infection. Humanity is the only thing left in this world who can stop your spread. You won't rest until every single human has either been killed or brought under your control. You've sent this particular infected "meat machine" (what free humans have taken to calling your minions) to Dracown, one of the strongest bastions of free humanity left in the world in order to take it over.

ERO Commander:
Back Story - You are one of the ERO's top officers, put in charge of this critical mission. While the ERO has the firepower to wipe Dracown off the face of the earth, they fear to use it because the town possesses many valuable resources, including women and children who you are to take alive. You lead this small but elite strike team to wipe out the town leadership.

ERO Sniper:
Back Story - You are one of the ERO's super elite, highly trained, and GREATLY feared snipers. While the ERO has the firepower to wipe Dracown off the face of the earth, they fear to use it because the town possesses many valuable resources, including women and children, who you are to take alive. You are the muscle on this small but elite strike team sent in to complete the mission

ERO Shield:
Back Story - You are one of the ERO's top specialists. While the ERO has the firepower to wipe Dracown off the face of the earth, they fear to use it because the town possesses many valuable resources, including women and children, who you are to take alive. You are the defensive expert on this small but elite strike team sent in to complete the mission, tasked to ensure that the ERO force suffers as few casualties as possible.

ERO Scientist:
Back Story - You are one of the ERO's top infection researchers. While the ERO has the firepower to wipe Dracown off the face of the earth, they fear to use it because the town possesses many valuable resources, including women and children, who you are to take alive. The ERO has received reports that infection carriers have been seen in the Dracown area. They've sent you along to ensure that the infection is dealt with so that it cannot spread to the town's women and children after the town leadership has been wiped out.

ERO Comm Officer:
Back Story - You are one of the ERO's top communications specialists. While the ERO has the firepower to wipe Dracown off the face of the earth, they fear to use it because the town possesses many valuable resources, including women and children, who you are to take alive. The ERO sent you along to disrupt the town's ability to communicate and confuse their defensive efforts.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 06:20 PM
We didn't have a Comm Officer...we had a Framer

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 06:21 PM
Awesome job BB. Call me selfish but I was likely never going to use my ability. The only person I likely would have used it on was SP and that wasn't happening.

vidae
05-21-2012, 06:22 PM
Awesome job BB. Call me selfish but I was likely never going to use my ability. The only person I likely would have used it on was SP and that wasn't happening.

And you called Job selfish for stating the same thing. :P

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 06:23 PM
And you called Job selfish for stating the same thing. :P

I know. I pointed that out during the game hahaha.

vidae
05-21-2012, 06:23 PM
I know. I pointed that out during the game hahaha.

You so silly. :D

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:23 PM
I think I was the only person to actually use my power as a Bodyguard in the Psych game protecting IBC. Not sure if I saved him or if I was just targeted directly that night, but I used it.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 06:24 PM
At one point I was so heated that I offered BB a "bribe" to let me get another grenade A frag grenade and shove it up SP's ass

Said he'd give it to me, but I would die too. Really considered it til CJ talked me out of it lol

bantx
05-21-2012, 06:25 PM
not one person mourned my death when i went on a suicide mission

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 06:25 PM
I think I was the only person to actually use my power as a Bodyguard in the Psych game protecting IBC. Not sure if I saved him or if I was just targeted directly that night, but I used it.

I would not be opposed to using it in a game not like this. With zombies turning people there was no way I could ever fully trust anybody. If I had died protecting a zombie I would have cried. In other games if it means saving an important character that I know is good, I would totally do it.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:26 PM
Had the ERO won, my "win" write up was going to be ERO high command ordering them to bring in the women and children to HQ...only to find that the ERO high command was infected and their "immunizations" made them infected as well.

That would have been fun.

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 06:26 PM
not one person mourned my death when i went on a suicide mission

Haha I felt kinda like a dick for that. I guess it was good timing though considering SP was about to out you as evil.

And R4L I was pissed when that frag was used. I'm pretty sure I would have had IBC lynched that day.

ImBrotherCain
05-21-2012, 06:28 PM
Had the ERO won, my "win" write up was going to be ERO high command ordering them to bring in the women and children to HQ...only to find that the ERO high command was infected and their "immunizations" made them infected as well.

That would have been fun.

You sir are a dick... In other news we should collaborate on a game some time soon

Caddy
05-21-2012, 06:30 PM
Probably the stupidest town we've ever had. I'm ashamed to have been a part of it.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:31 PM
You sir are a dick... In other news we should collaborate on a game some time soon

I would do that. I have more ideas than I know what to do with. I have an idea for a funny Aqua Teen game, and a more serious Aliens vs. Predator kind of game...and like 10000 others.

Forenci
05-21-2012, 06:31 PM
Refugee actually. The refugees were new to town and not trusted...check you death write up. You were actually a miller.

Oh. I thought I just saw townie for my role. I didn't realize the change in backstory made me different or what impact that had, haha.

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 06:32 PM
Probably the stupidest town we've ever had. I'm ashamed to have been a part of it.

I already told you why I went along with the lynching of you.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:33 PM
Oh. I thought I just saw townie for my role. I didn't realize the change in backstory made me different or what impact that had, haha.

Well, part of that might be my bad. I was always under the impression until Cain's vampire game that millers didn't know they were millers, and I had this written before that. I've read it can go either way, and decided to not tell you so we didn't have a repeat of that game where 5 people claim miller.

I thought you'd figure it out after you read that Bantx was a Refugee and a Miller.

vidae
05-21-2012, 06:33 PM
I think I'd use my Bodyguard role if I ever got one, but I'd want to be as sure as possible that I was using it on someone good. How ****** would it be to use it on someone who was evil? Haha.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 06:35 PM
Haha I felt kinda like a dick for that. I guess it was good timing though considering SP was about to out you as evil.

And R4L I was pissed when that frag was used. I'm pretty sure I would have had IBC lynched that day.

Was a flash lol

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:35 PM
I think I'd use my Bodyguard role if I ever got one, but I'd want to be as sure as possible that I was using it on someone good. How ****** would it be to use it on someone who was evil? Haha.

I didn't use it the first night of the Psych game because i didn't trust anyone yet...plus i had the pineapple and used that instead. Cain came out as a cop and I figured, why not...might have helped.

Forenci
05-21-2012, 06:36 PM
I don't think I've been in a game with millers so it's rather new to me haha.

Caddy
05-21-2012, 06:36 PM
I already told you why I went along with the lynching of you.

You weren't part of the town so you are excluded from that comment along with any other bad guy that voted for me! The townies who voted for me are dumb. Dumb dumb dumb.

Raiderz4Life
05-21-2012, 06:37 PM
We knew IBC was going to get lynched so I flashbanged to buy us another night and kill. Cain still had one more round left to use.

Forenci
05-21-2012, 06:38 PM
Hah. I was actually pretty spot on with all of my suspicions. Had a feeling about r4L. Cigaro was a surprise though because of how much he seemed to help the town.

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 06:39 PM
I didn't use it the first night of the Psych game because i didn't trust anyone yet...plus i had the pineapple and used that instead. Cain came out as a cop and I figured, why not...might have helped.

Nah, they killed you directly.

Also, I wasnt lying about getting the vaccine, i destroyed it though :-)

vidae
05-21-2012, 06:40 PM
I didn't suspect Cigaro for a second. Nicely played sir.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:40 PM
Cigaro played a good game after he was infected I thought. He was pretty much not suspicious at all and used his former role well to gain credibility late.

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 06:42 PM
Cigaro played a good game after he was infected I thought. He was pretty much not suspicious at all and used his former role well to gain credibility late.

Yea, Cigaro was a great add. Not sure we would have won had I got someone else that night. The best part about it was that I random number generated who to target that night and got 6, which was his number on the front page at the time haha

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:42 PM
Nah, they killed you directly.

Also, I wasnt lying about getting the vaccine, i destroyed it though :-)

Well, I tried.

And yeah, Grizz found the vaccine like 2 minutes before the next person...OSU I think it was.

BeerBaron
05-21-2012, 06:46 PM
I used this to decide who was infected successfully btw. Ancient Roman coin:

http://www.random.org/coins/?num=1&cur=40-antique.aurelian

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 06:48 PM
Yea, Cigaro was a great add. Not sure we would have won had I got someone else that night. The best part about it was that I random number generated who to target that night and got 6, which was his number on the front page at the time haha

I told you to get him!

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 06:49 PM
I told you to get him!

This is true, bulldogs did push for Cigaro, random number generator clinched it in my mind though :-)

Snicho
05-21-2012, 06:52 PM
Hah. I was actually pretty spot on with all of my suspicions. Had a feeling about r4L. Cigaro was a surprise though because of how much he seemed to help the town.

You suspected me for a little while there tho. But it's cool. I forgive you. People just seem to find it hard to trust me in every game we play.

CJSchneider
05-21-2012, 07:04 PM
Good game, folks.

<salutes his ERO teammates>

Forenci
05-21-2012, 07:14 PM
You suspected me for a little while there tho. But it's cool. I forgive you. People just seem to find it hard to trust me in every game we play.

Only because it seemed like you weren't around much! Aussie time and such.

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 07:39 PM
No one suspects a zombie mayor!

We should get Zombie titles :-P hahaha

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 07:39 PM
Give me my damn zombie title!

Caddy
05-21-2012, 07:42 PM
Don't give them zombie titles :\

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 07:44 PM
Don't listen to Caddy. He's jelly.

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 07:48 PM
Don't give them zombie titles :\

haha, I was joking, no need to be a Dick in a box.

Caddy
05-21-2012, 07:48 PM
Don't listen to Caddy. He's jelly.

Nope. Every game I've been in with a 'zombie' type side, the zombies have won so it isn't as awesome as the regular mafia winning.

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 07:50 PM
Nope. Every game I've been in with a 'zombie' type side, the zombies have won so it isn't as awesome as the regular mafia winning.

Give me a saibaman title!

Caddy
05-21-2012, 07:52 PM
Give me a saibaman title!

I'll allow it.

Grizzlegom
05-21-2012, 08:00 PM
Nope. Every game I've been in with a 'zombie' type side, the zombies have won so it isn't as awesome as the regular mafia winning.

Say what you will about zombies always winning or the town being stupid or whatever but Bulldogs, Cigaro, and I planned each day who we wanted the town to lynch and managed to control the conversation enough to nudge the town in that direction just about every day. Its not like we totally lucked into winning.

but yea, I was still joking about the zombie title thing.

fenikz
05-21-2012, 08:03 PM
oh boo zombies can't talk

I guess since this is Fallout style they are ghouls but you should just call em ghouls

Shane P. Hallam
05-21-2012, 08:07 PM
First full game SK to win def. gets a title though.

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 08:08 PM
I see how it is.

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 08:09 PM
Say what you will about zombies always winning or the town being stupid or whatever but Bulldogs, Cigaro, and I planned each day who we wanted the town to lynch and managed to control the conversation enough to nudge the town in that direction just about every day. Its not like we totally lucked into winning.

but yea, I was still joking about the zombie title thing.

You guys played a great game. Played the town like a fiddle and sat back as ERO and the Town did whatever the could to take each other out. Of course once Ngata went down and with the watchers gone you were golden. No way to tell who was evil without deduction and that certainly was not going on haha.

fenikz
05-21-2012, 08:10 PM
First full game SK to win def. gets a title though.

won't be you or me, I can promise you that

Caddy
05-21-2012, 08:10 PM
Say what you will about zombies always winning or the town being stupid or whatever but Bulldogs, Cigaro, and I planned each day who we wanted the town to lynch and managed to control the conversation enough to nudge the town in that direction just about every day. Its not like we totally lucked into winning.

but yea, I was still joking about the zombie title thing.

You guys definitely played well. I thought you might be some kind of evil, but I definitely thought Cig was a townie or something. I'm not sure you nudged the town in any specific direction though, just an outsiders view though. The days seemed fairly straight forward to me given the evidence that was available.

Shane P. Hallam
05-21-2012, 08:10 PM
won't be you or me, I can promise you that

Haha, I can DEFINITELY promise you that. If I ever get SK again without some type of help in investigations or something, I may just commit suicide, lol.

Caddy
05-21-2012, 08:11 PM
Haha, I can DEFINITELY promise you that. If I ever get SK again without some type of help in investigations or something, I may just commit suicide, lol.

Just kill Gonzo first. kthx.

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 08:15 PM
We all know I get watched every night one. Good look winning while killing me :) I also am an enemy of the town even when I townie. Lone wolf *************.

Shane P. Hallam
05-21-2012, 08:20 PM
We all know I get watched every night one. Good look winning while killing me :) I also am an enemy of the town even when I townie. Lone wolf *************.

No one watched/investigated you this game I don't think?

Dr. Gonzo
05-21-2012, 08:22 PM
No one watched/investigated you this game I don't think?

You shush. I was investigated night one yes. Not watcher. It's because damn Fenikz was the watcher! I hope you appreciated me laying off after attacking you early haha. I have to do it once a game or I feel I will get lynched. Plus it is just so much damn fun.

fenikz
05-21-2012, 08:24 PM
I watched Snicho and then Ngata

No one visited Snicho
Bulldogs and Cigaro visited Ngata

Snicho
05-21-2012, 08:34 PM
You wasted a night on me. Sorry.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 09:00 PM
I watched Snicho and then Ngata

No one visited Snicho
Bulldogs and Cigaro visited Ngata

Explains his no result.

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 09:00 PM
I watched Snicho and then Ngata

No one visited Snicho
Bulldogs and Cigaro visited Ngata

You should have said something. I jailkeeped him.

Cigaro
05-21-2012, 09:01 PM
You should have said something. I jailkeeped him.

He was killed that night, couldn't report it.

Bulldogs
05-21-2012, 09:03 PM
He was killed that night, couldn't report it.

Good eye. Didn't notice that.

Ngatachance92
05-21-2012, 09:20 PM
I thought I exhibited good logic and asked a lot of the right questions when I was alive, my execution may need a little work though.