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UKfan
05-20-2012, 08:15 AM
Calling all SWDCers!

The time has come for a new simulation, many of you took part in and enjoyed NFL sims such as the DBFL, well now a new game has been created but with a twist, this time it's all about soccer. Can you "win" the draft, pick the correct formation to combat your opposition and guide your team to the top of the SWDC League and Cup competition?

Initially teams will be given access to a database of all of the available players in the inaugural draft, and allowed to "scout" a number of players, where they will be given an indication of their current skills and growth potential, then teams will draft their players and create a squad, after which the league will begin in due course!

Please remember this is the first go around of this and it may have teething issues as I work out the kinks.

Sign up now and we'll see how well this goes. Given that I made the database I will run the games, but I can control a team if necessary and try to make it balanced.

Signups
1. SP
2. Justone
3. GOW
4. TimD
5. Zycho
6. Cigaro
7. tjsunstein
8. Rob S

SuperPacker
05-20-2012, 08:18 AM
This should be good.

Justone2
05-20-2012, 08:49 AM
Sounds fun.

Gay Ork Wang
05-20-2012, 09:08 AM
i wil lbe in this

UKfan
05-20-2012, 09:18 AM
Glad to see it is starting to take off, if anyone has any questions by the way feel free to ask, and I will try answer them as best I can, though I am still somewhat planning and finalising the player database

Gay Ork Wang
05-20-2012, 10:35 AM
No players we know right? all invented players?

UKfan
05-20-2012, 10:41 AM
Yeah it will all be invented players, I've pretty much got the database set up now. I think ideally based on the number of players I have created I would like to have 8 people sign up, and as soon as we have that I will set things going.

Rob S
05-20-2012, 11:26 AM
I would like to, but I start work in early June and my time spent on these boards will likely plummet.

UKfan
05-20-2012, 11:30 AM
No worries Rob, once the draft etc is done it should be relatively low maintenance, but I will let you decide.

Zycho32
05-21-2012, 08:15 AM
Okay, I'll throw my hat in.

TimD
05-21-2012, 10:17 AM
Im definitely in.

UKfan
05-21-2012, 01:45 PM
Thanks guys, I will give it a bit longer as ideally 8 would be great, but if not I will move on with less.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 12:11 PM
5 is going to be tough to get any sort of meaningful sim going with, but I am happy to carry on as is if people want to?

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 12:46 PM
well write some messages to people and then go on i guess?

Cigaro
05-22-2012, 01:03 PM
I'll do it.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 01:10 PM
Thanks man, just a couple more now I hope

UKfan
05-22-2012, 02:39 PM
Alright lets set this going with 6 and see if anyone else drops in.

Congratulations, you have all been approved by the SWDC Premier League board to be owners of the first franchises to participate in our great league!

To fill out your roster, you will be required to draft from the pool of over 200 players available to you.

Please find a list of all of the players, available for selection, along with their age, position, and a rough indicator of their current talent rating, which ranges between 0 and 100 (Low Floor (less than 70), Medium Floor (71-85) and High Floor (above 85)).

From this list, each of you will be given the opportunity to scout up to 15 players, 5 from each of the current talent levels, scouting allows you to see the players current precise overall rating, and gives an indication as to how he will progress over future seasons.

Please PM me your names (up to 15, 5 from each category) when you have decided, and I will forward the stats thereafter. Once every teams scouting has taken place, the draft order will follow and the draft will commence. Remember, you don't have to draft who you scout.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At6ZB22lJO0mdHY0enJRUlhMSTZUckhtal90R1Rqe UE

Will you look for current established stars who are in the peak years of their career now but have little room to grow, or gamble on youths with the potential to become a world beater over time?

Once each team has a fully filled out roster, it is worth noting that each team will be given a budget to spend on enhancing their squad, either by purchasing players from other teams directly, or by delving into the player pool in the transfer market which will be published after each set of fixtures.

There will be no trading of draft picks at this time.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 02:46 PM
What are your position abbreviations for? Goalie, Defense, Midfield, Attacker and then the position i assume?

UKfan
05-22-2012, 02:52 PM
Ah yeah sorry I should have put a key on there.

G - Goalkeeper

D R - Defence (Right)
D L - Defence (Left)
D C - Defence (Centre)

M R - Midfield (Right)
M L - Midfield (Left)
M C - Midfield (Centre)

A C - Attacker (Centre)

Due to the relatively simple positions I have laid out, M Cs can be attacking or defensive mids if required, D R and D Ls can be wing backs etc, as long as your decisions aren't too outlandish like playing a D L as an advanced winger I will allow you to be a bit flexible with formations once we get to game time.

tjsunstein
05-22-2012, 03:10 PM
Count me in, need one more for 8.

SuperPacker
05-22-2012, 03:19 PM
I don't think I scouted anyone over the age of 24. I love young players way too much!

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 03:24 PM
I don't think I scouted anyone over the age of 24. I love young players way too much!
well **** you!

UKfan
05-22-2012, 03:26 PM
Ok you are in tj, thanks for getting involved :)

Also just a slight changed, I messed up the numbers in the big post above.

Low floor is below 70, medium is 71-85, high is 86+

It doesn't affect much really, but just wanted to stop people being confused if they got someone with a high floor that was 86 say.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 03:32 PM
when can we expect the draft?

Cigaro
05-22-2012, 03:35 PM
I'll have my scouting choices in sometime later today.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 03:36 PM
Send them in asap!

UKfan
05-22-2012, 03:44 PM
If we get all the lists in quick, then we can draft shortly after that I guess, we have a mix of time zones going on so once all lists are done we can decide how best to do that.

PS. lists are taking a little while, but first 2 are done!

UKfan
05-22-2012, 03:54 PM
3 down so far so good!

Interesting tidbit, one player has so far been scouted by all 3 teams, could there be a competition come draft day? More tidbits and factoids as the scouting develops.

SuperPacker
05-22-2012, 04:04 PM
I bet I can guess who it is!

UKfan
05-22-2012, 04:05 PM
I'm not going to name names as I don't want to jeapordise anyones potential strategy, but you (and any of the other managers who wish to), feel free to discuss anything you wish, after all the real NFL has lies and misinformation all over the place! :)

TimD
05-22-2012, 04:11 PM
My list is in, and Im ready to draft.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 04:13 PM
Unfortunately we are still waiting on 5 more people right now, as soon as they are done we can get the draft going!

UKfan
05-22-2012, 04:23 PM
4 lists in, 1 person still been on all the lists, kinda crazy really :)

edit - as GOW correctly asked, I didn't fully explain, the potential value is the overall rating that a player can reach, their ceiling as it were.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 04:44 PM
To put the results into context that have been received, it's been asked that I give some statistics about the players, so here we go!

Current ability:
1 x 21-25
3 x 26-30
2 x 31-35
2 x 36-40
6 x 41-45
8 x 46-50
12 x 51-55
14 x 56-60
19 x 61-65
26 x 66-70
29 x 71-75
32 x 76-80
31 x 81-85
20 x 86-90
14 x 91-95
2 x 96-100

Potential Ability
11 x 66-70
33 x 71-75
45 x 76-80
44 x 81-85
44 x 86-90
32 x 91-95
12 x 96-100

Hope that helps!

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 04:59 PM
I bet I can guess who it is!
who do you think it is?

SuperPacker
05-22-2012, 05:03 PM
The American right back.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 05:04 PM
Nope, id say the Spanish MC

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:05 PM
Who knows... :)

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 05:05 PM
if it is someone low/mid floor im going to be stumped

SuperPacker
05-22-2012, 05:06 PM
Oh wait, there's more than one American. I thought he was the only one.

I'd probably go with Lever the English striker, or what you said, the Spanish midfielder.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:06 PM
High floor :)

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 05:07 PM
how long will the draft be

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 05:07 PM
Oh wait, there's more than one American. I thought he was the only one.

I'd probably go with Lever the English striker, or what you said, the Spanish midfielder.
pretty sure it is the midfielder.

SuperPacker
05-22-2012, 05:08 PM
I didn't scout the Spanish guy, actually. He was too old and I didn't like his name. Didn't sound Spanish enough! :)

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:09 PM
Ideally it would be good to do entire squads, so maybe 18 or so rounds, but I realise that is going to be pretty taxing, do you guys have a preference how many you would like to do?

Cigaro
05-22-2012, 05:11 PM
I'd say bare minimum, full starting line-up and a five man bench. When we get into those later rounds, we can see if we want to do more.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 05:12 PM
yea do the full starting lineup and 5 man bench and then go with free agency bidding.

SuperPacker
05-22-2012, 05:12 PM
The Soccer Draft was 18 rounds, with 9 people in, so I think it would be ok.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:14 PM
Ok that works for me then definitely, we'll say 16 rounds and go from there.

Rob S
05-22-2012, 05:15 PM
Now I'm getting somewhat jealous of you guys! Don't think I would've had the time though.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 05:17 PM
Now I'm getting somewhat jealous of you guys! Don't think I would've had the time though.
it really doesnt take that much time rob.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:17 PM
Rob if you want the last slot it's still open. The draft is going to be the main time input I think, after that once you have all your players there should be relatively little to do, up to you though you know your schedule more than us.

Cigaro
05-22-2012, 05:19 PM
To put the results into context that have been received, it's been asked that I give some statistics about the players, so here we go!

Current ability:
1 x 21-25
3 x 26-30
2 x 31-35
2 x 36-40
6 x 41-45
8 x 46-50
12 x 51-55
14 x 56-60
19 x 61-65
26 x 66-70
29 x 71-75
32 x 76-80
31 x 81-85
20 x 86-90
14 x 91-95
2 x 96-100

Potential Ability
11 x 66-70
33 x 71-75
45 x 76-80
44 x 81-85
44 x 86-90
32 x 91-95
12 x 96-100

Hope that helps!

I'm assuming this is how many players are at each different tier? If so, lol at the one really, really ****** player at 21-25.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:22 PM
I'm assuming this is how many players are at each different tier? If so, lol at the one really, really ****** player at 21-25.

Yeah that's right, and yeah I wanted to put in a couple of real duds! I mean, it happens in real life :)

Rob S
05-22-2012, 05:23 PM
Rob if you want the last slot it's still open. The draft is going to be the main time input I think, after that once you have all your players there should be relatively little to do, up to you though you know your schedule more than us.

Yeah....I very well might ruin the draft. I'll have to pass.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:24 PM
Boo Rob, boooo! :) nah that's fine.

So with 7 people we are waiting on tj and justone to get their lists in, once that's done the 16 round drafting extravaganza can begin!

Rob S
05-22-2012, 05:28 PM
Alright, I'll do it.....screw it.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:31 PM
Yay!! Alright we have our 8, good times! If you get your list in to me in the next few minutes (I should be around for 30 or so) then I will get your scouting done tonight, but if not don't worry, as I say I am still waiting on 2 other lists.

Rob S
05-22-2012, 05:41 PM
Yay!! Alright we have our 8, good times! If you get your list in to me in the next few minutes (I should be around for 30 or so) then I will get your scouting done tonight, but if not don't worry, as I say I am still waiting on 2 other lists.

Just sent it in....figure it's pretty much a crapshoot anyway haha

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:51 PM
Yeah, I could have made the scouting stage a bit different, but I quite like having some ambiguity and guesswork involved in it, makes it interesting, and if people don't end up with a perfect team it will encourage transfer activity, which is what I hope for to keep the season interesting!

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 05:52 PM
yea i like how it is so far.

will you limit how many high floor people we can draft?

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:52 PM
Oh and I should add, the streak has been broken by Rob, no one player has been scouted by all 5 teams! :)

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 05:53 PM
only waiting for TJ and justone?

also:

can we get the draft order and trade picks?

UKfan
05-22-2012, 05:55 PM
Waiting on tj, zycho and justone.

I guess I can now do the draft order sure, just popping onto random.org.

I guess pick trading is fine too, only this years draft picks though I would prefer.

UKfan
05-22-2012, 06:00 PM
Ok the order will be:

Zycho
GOW
Rob S
SP
Justone2
Cigaro
TimD
tjsunstein

Snake draft as normal.

Justone2
05-22-2012, 06:01 PM
My list is in really funny names in that list but i can imagine its pretty hard naming so many players.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 06:01 PM
Sweet! I hope Zycho doenst pick my guy...

can we start it if TJ is the last one to send in his lists anyway?

UKfan
05-22-2012, 06:10 PM
Justone you should have your scouting report back now, just Zycho and tj now.

If we are just waiting on tj then in theory we could start without him, but if your guys draft picks are published before he puts his list in, it means he wont waste any on people, whereas you guys might have scouted a guy that was taken, and he would have more overall info. Am happy to leave that with you though.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 06:12 PM
yea okay we should wait.

Zycho hasnt sent in his list yet?

UKfan
05-22-2012, 06:13 PM
He hasn't unfortunately, and I need to head off soon, got to be awake in 7 hours for work :(

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 06:18 PM
No restrictions on high floor draftees?

UKfan
05-22-2012, 06:19 PM
Nope, you could scout 5, but you can grab as many as you can.

Justone2
05-22-2012, 06:23 PM
well i guess everyone will get 8 of them if all goes like it should:P

UKfan
05-22-2012, 06:26 PM
Well there were only 36 players who had a high floor, so if everyone went high floor all through each team would have 4 or 5, but you may decide to grab someone with a lower floor but higher ceiling as it goes on, the joys of the draft :)

Justone2
05-22-2012, 06:27 PM
wow that was a big mistake there. I knew it was 36 high floor guys but i really think that only 5 in the lower floors really makes it a huge gamble most of the time:P

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 06:28 PM
we should maybe get a few more scouts on the low tiers...

UKfan
05-22-2012, 06:28 PM
That's the plan :) As I said before, unpredictability should make the draft a lot of fun, but there will be chances to fix big errors via transfers once the draft is over as well.

Right I have to go, PMs sent to tj and zycho, so we should be good to start tomorrow!

UKfan
05-22-2012, 06:30 PM
Hmmm, you are probably right about that actually. ok 5 more on the mid tiers, and 10 more on the bottom tiers. Results will be sent tomorrow!

Justone2
05-22-2012, 06:36 PM
I will send you my list.

Gay Ork Wang
05-22-2012, 07:07 PM
imma draft all the old people

tjsunstein
05-22-2012, 07:24 PM
Didn't think this would take off so fast, went to the gym and ate dinner and there's 3 pages. I'll get my stuff in soon! Sorry for the hold up.

tjsunstein
05-22-2012, 07:52 PM
There are so many players to scout! I'll have this is later tonight.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:35 AM
For the love of god i hope zycho scouted and we can get this started!

Zycho32
05-23-2012, 06:12 AM
Evidently last night was a BAD TIME to go to sleep in the early evening, eh?

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 06:18 AM
if you want id think you can start with the draft i think

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 09:37 AM
My scouting was sent in...

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 09:52 AM
My scouting was sent in...
with the new rules of 5 High, 10 mid, 15 low?

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 10:13 AM
with the new rules of 5 High, 10 mid, 15 low?

Of course...

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 10:14 AM
just asking :) i really cant wait to start the draft.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 10:45 AM
Phew, that was quite the scouting session!

Right as things stand now, Cigaro needs to replace 3 players on his list (put in mids instead of lows)

Zycho and SP have only done 15 of his 30 (the old 5, 5, 5 way before the update)

Other than that we should be good to go I think, let me know if you dont have your 30 names, but I think we should be good to start, thread going up now.

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 10:46 AM
I'll send it in soon.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 10:47 AM
my second go at scouting was a bit better

UKfan
05-23-2012, 10:51 AM
PS. I need a way to automate that damn PM process better, that was a pain!

Finally I am only going to reveal inital overalls to everyone in the draft thread, potential is private only to those who draft the player and those who scouted him, it should make the economy more interesting in the future when we get the transfer market going.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:05 AM
are our biddings to players going to be public? are you going to spread rumours? and stuff like that?

UKfan
05-23-2012, 11:08 AM
I think I might let the teams decide if they wish for bids to go public or to go private, depending on the situation and things.

And yes I likely will post stories about the transfer market in a dedicated thread.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:14 AM
i love you so much. i seriously cant wait to dominate you other fools!

Justone2
05-23-2012, 11:15 AM
I will maybe send you a list UK since i will be away from about 2 hours from now till possibly tomorrowmorning(dutch time).

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:16 AM
do you have Whatsapp? we could contact you via that.

how is progressing of players going to go UKfan? Training facilities and such? More scouting available during the season for free agents? maybe money we can spend on scouting or such?

Justone2
05-23-2012, 11:22 AM
Well i am half of the time sleeping and most of the other half i am playing Volleybal so that won't really help much:P

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:23 AM
well since im german i will have about the same time table for sleeping same with the other europeans like SP, Ukfan

UKfan
05-23-2012, 11:26 AM
SP is now up to date.

Justone2 feel free to send me a list by all means and we can do it that way.

I had been thinking about players progressing year on year towards their potential at different rates I choose (I have them in a spreadsheet already), but perhaps giving you an overall budget and allowing teams to invest in training facilities to improve progression speeds might be a good way to go

Cigaro
05-23-2012, 11:26 AM
Just got my three in. Somehow got mixed up when reporting names.

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 11:27 AM
Zycho was online a minute ago. Have you Pm'ed him UK?

UKfan
05-23-2012, 11:31 AM
Zycho has been PM'd with his original 15, and the request for the further 15, everyone is up to date now bar him

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:33 AM
i think we should have money to invest in training facilities, for scouting and such. that sounds fun. stuff you can add are for example trainers, invest in your stadiums and such

Rob S
05-23-2012, 11:34 AM
I'm going to be at the gym for a couple hours. Pardon me if I happen to slow this down.

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 11:35 AM
I'm going to be at the gym for a couple hours. Pardon me if I happen to slow this down.

Send in a list.

Rob S
05-23-2012, 11:36 AM
Send in a list.

Don't feel comfortable doing that.....I want to see the type of overalls getting picked to see if I should gamble or pick a guy I scouted.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:38 AM
if you have whatsapp i could inform you i guess...

UKfan
05-23-2012, 11:41 AM
Ok GOW I will work on putting something together to allow improvements to infrastructure and so on as the game progresses, I like it.

Zycho should now have a full list now too, everyone should be good to go!

Rob S
05-23-2012, 11:41 AM
if you have whatsapp i could inform you i guess...

I won't be able to get to my phone. I'm not lifting, I'm boxing.

Rob S
05-23-2012, 11:41 AM
Zycho is on, so I will stick around for a few.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:42 AM
Ok GOW I will work on putting something together to allow improvements to infrastructure and so on as the game progresses, I like it.

Zycho should now have a full list now too, everyone should be good to go!
just hit me up if you need help!

its fine rob. you know from when to when it will be?

Rob S
05-23-2012, 11:43 AM
I'll stick around like 20 minutes to get my first pick in and I'll probably be gone from around 1-3 EST. I may be back sooner too.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:45 AM
you could just make reactions after every few picks i guess Ukfan?

UKfan
05-23-2012, 11:47 AM
I might do a summary once a round or something like that as well as updating post one, just to keep everything in the forefront of peoples minds.

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 11:50 AM
We should have a Media Thread, where we can post the stuff about our teams.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 11:51 AM
Maybe ask Jbond to give you powers or something idk

also UKfan

do players have tendencies?

Like ACs be small and fast or guys being Gomezlike? something like that?

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 11:51 AM
We should have a Media Thread, where we can post the stuff about our teams.

I like this idea.

856 745 9267 if im not around.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 11:52 AM
Media thread open. I havent given team names or anything for you guys, so by all means start with that in there :)

Rob S
05-23-2012, 11:54 AM
Come on, Zycho......

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 11:55 AM
Let's get this rollng.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 11:57 AM
Zycho has his list and was told he is OTC, all down to him. I have a list from GOW for if he is away for too long as well.

Zycho32
05-23-2012, 12:05 PM
Oookay, so I posted my first selection.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 12:05 PM
Not sure if GOW is around (he might be invisible due to Mafia games), so I will give him a few mins, then if not will go to his list to keep it rolling

Rob S
05-23-2012, 12:08 PM
Yes, we are underway! I'll be around for 5 more minutes.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 12:11 PM
Posted GOWs pick so we can keep going

UKfan
05-23-2012, 12:23 PM
Alright thanks guys we're really rolling here. Feel free to utilise the media thread howeever you see fit, post mis-information, unveal your teams, do as you so wish!

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 12:25 PM
I'm going to wait until I pick to post in the media thread but I will be active there.

Rob S
05-23-2012, 01:39 PM
I'm back....I'm also so ridiculously out of shape. This blows. Too much SWDC......

UKfan
05-23-2012, 01:56 PM
Wow you guys are really rolling, it's kicking my ass to keep up so far haha! :) glad to see some media thread stuff is getting posted as well.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:07 PM
got one of the two best guys right now!

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 02:08 PM
Do we get any clue as to what type of player they are? Is my striker Andy Carroll or Sergio Aguero and is my winger David Beckham or Aaron Lennon?

UKfan
05-23-2012, 02:11 PM
Not right now, you will see in write ups hopefully as the game develops.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:14 PM
wouldnt that be important for my formations and strategies?

UKfan
05-23-2012, 02:16 PM
Hmmm, that's true, ok perhaps when the draft is done I will provide a breakdown of players key strengths and weaknesses. These will be PM'd to you individually. Opposition will then glean a players assets via write ups to define counter tactics.

Man I am giving myself more and more work here haha :)

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:16 PM
haha i can help you if you want to with stuff

UKfan
05-23-2012, 02:18 PM
Luckily I have some free time coming up, so I should be ok to get it done, I'll just add it to my spreadsheet.

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 02:18 PM
It'd be nice if you could just put a player comparison next to each player.

R.Bjorn - Hatem Ben Arfa
L.Lever - Karim Benzema

Just so we know who we are drafting.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:19 PM
Also:

Do we get the potentials for players we draft? or only the ones we scouted

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 02:20 PM
Also:

Can you make a team thread, please.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 02:23 PM
You will get potentials for all your players that you draft, they will be PM'd so only you know your draftees potential (unless another manager scouted them).

Would people like me to add a player comparison to each player as they are posted, or would it be ok to include these in the PM at the end with all of your players potentials?

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:26 PM
whatever is easier for you my man.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 02:27 PM
I'll put them all in the PMs at the end I think. I prefer it that way as it means managers have to pay attention to the write ups of matches to work out over time what type of players the opposition has.

Rob S
05-23-2012, 02:27 PM
Yeah, whatever is easier.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:30 PM
Is the potential the absolute highest that person will become as in, cant get any better?


also im looking to draft down. If anyone wants to trade up just hit me up.

Rob S
05-23-2012, 02:34 PM
Is the potential the absolute highest that person will become as in, cant get any better?

That is how I understood it.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:36 PM
okay damn now its on me. all my scouted players in high are gone. Do i go for broke...

UKfan
05-23-2012, 02:37 PM
Is the potential the absolute highest that person will become as in, cant get any better?

Yes that is correct.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:38 PM
If anyone wants to trade up hit me up, i will give you about 5 minutes

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 02:47 PM
How long are we doing this for? Is it just one season?

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:48 PM
I hope we have it for at least 10

UKfan
05-23-2012, 02:48 PM
I hope that it will run over multiple seasons to allow for the potentials to fully maximise, the investments in stadia and infrastructure to pay off and so on. It ultimately depends on how everyone enjoys it but I see it as a long term thing.

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 02:49 PM
I was gonna say, that is where my 'draft young' strategy will kick in!

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:49 PM
I was gonna say, that is where my 'draft young' strategy will kick in!
by that time i have won the league multiple times!

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:51 PM
http://zippychat.com/room/32573

If you want to chat!

Cigaro
05-23-2012, 02:51 PM
Jesus this thing is moving quickly.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 02:52 PM
Jesus this thing is moving quickly.
which is awesome!


HELL YEA, RIVALRY!

SuperPacker
05-23-2012, 03:02 PM
by that time i have won the league multiple times!

But you'll be screwed when half your team is retiring and you're left with no one to fill the gap!

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 03:03 PM
But you'll be screwed when half your team is retiring and you're left with no one to fill the gap!
the oldest guys are 28. thats about the age of cristiano and schweinsteiger ;)

UKfan
05-23-2012, 03:04 PM
Looks like our newest rivalry is heating up! I may have to delve back into my media piece haha

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 03:07 PM
I hope we have it for at least 10

Im absolutely down.

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 03:19 PM
Give me just a minute here guys, Im fresh out of players scouted with high floors. Ill have two picks up within 5 mins.

Zycho32
05-23-2012, 03:32 PM
Being reasonably certain that we won't finish all 16 rounds today, is there a definite stopping point for today and a starting point for tomorrow.... y'know, so I don't need everybody in the group ragging on me because I slept through MORE stuff?

UKfan
05-23-2012, 03:33 PM
Well most of us Euros will probably be here for about 2 more hours or so on and off. We've made great progress today though so if it gets held up I wouldnt worry too much, I will institute a clock if required but I am not super strict, you all seem enthusiastic :)

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 03:34 PM
how long is justones list

UKfan
05-23-2012, 03:38 PM
He has 2 players left on his list

Cigaro
05-23-2012, 03:43 PM
It was between Edgerton and McManus for me. Dammit, should've taken McManus.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 03:45 PM
You didnt do bad on the GK stakes anyway, front page updated

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 04:08 PM
can someone just give me the guy from germany?

UKfan
05-23-2012, 04:09 PM
Verstuyft?

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 04:20 PM
Knew I should have went Ciavarello over Vesasco but I opted for some type of offense.

TheBoyWonder22
05-23-2012, 04:20 PM
Ahhhh! I wish I would have done this!

UKfan
05-23-2012, 04:21 PM
Ciavarello was just sitting there for so long, knowing what I know I was wondering just when he would go :)

UKfan
05-23-2012, 04:21 PM
TBW, I will keep you in mind and if we have some drop outs or inactives you will be in there for replacing :)

TheBoyWonder22
05-23-2012, 04:23 PM
I more so wanted to draft my own team. If you're ever looking to do an expansion draft, hit me up.

UKfan
05-23-2012, 04:25 PM
No worries, if it takes off that might be a decent option to do

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 04:27 PM
how many high floor people are left?

UKfan
05-23-2012, 04:28 PM
There are 3 left I believe (there were 36, and we have had 33 picks so far)

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 04:30 PM
okay can you give me my midfloor guy? you know who im talking about

UKfan
05-23-2012, 04:36 PM
PM sent as not sure which of those 2 you were referring to as I dont know your strategy

UKfan
05-23-2012, 04:51 PM
We *may* be done for the night now, Justone is up but all of his listed players are taken, good start everyone :)

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 04:51 PM
did anyone target faber? i think i made a mistake not drafting combe

UKfan
05-23-2012, 04:52 PM
I'd rather not reveal that from my standpoint, if others are happy for me to do so though I will

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
We *may* be done for the night now, Justone is up but all of his listed players are taken, good start everyone :)

Great start, we killed it today. I left my number so as soon as its my pick someone text me or PM me.

Holy ****, were still going.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
what about sending potentials and such for what we have so far?

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 05:33 PM
Everyone is so enthusiastic about this!

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 05:34 PM
i hope it stays that way!

Justone2
05-23-2012, 05:36 PM
Found some time to pick and if i saw it good he is the last High floor player.

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 05:55 PM
Can someone txt tjsunstein?

Gay Ork Wang
05-23-2012, 06:24 PM
How do you guys like your drafts so far? Who do you think is doing good, who is doing bad?

tjsunstein
05-23-2012, 08:03 PM
My bad, I don't have the list in front of me.

Via iPhone

Cigaro
05-23-2012, 09:09 PM
How do you guys like your drafts so far? Who do you think is doing good, who is doing bad?

I like mine so far. Missed out on only one guy I really wanted, Dougherty. Brnovic and St. Pierre have potential to be the best at their positions. Didn't scout Edgarton or Hofmann, hopefully Edgarton still has room to grow, and Hofmann can keep playing for a few years longer(which he should be able to do, being a GK). Judging by the ranges, Stille is one of the most talented midfloor players already, with good potential for growth.

I basically followed the Barca method for my team, having young players who will grow up with the team, and consequently benefit from unbelievable team chemistry by the time they're at their prime.

TimD
05-24-2012, 12:30 AM
I basically followed the Barca method for my team, having young players who will grow up with the team, and consequently benefit from unbelievable team chemistry by the time they're at their prime.

this is pretty much my strategy as well. except with an emphasis on defense

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 03:28 AM
starting now, i seriously hope you guys iddnt scout many potential 96-100 guys.

TimD
05-24-2012, 08:53 AM
Im back so after TJ makes his pick, Ill make mine. No need for the list UK

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 09:40 AM
Could you text Tj?

TimD
05-24-2012, 09:42 AM
if someone PMs me his number

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 09:42 AM
I like this idea.

856 745 9267 if im not around.
there you go

TimD
05-24-2012, 10:10 AM
there you go

i texted him, no response

i left a board with UK. ill be back on later

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 10:28 AM
One of you foreigners text me if i'm not on to make my pick. I should be on for the resr of the night though.

0779961209

UKfan
05-24-2012, 10:38 AM
I'm back, catching up now

UKfan
05-24-2012, 10:46 AM
PMing out squads will all info as stands now.

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 10:59 AM
Do we get a player comparison?

UKfan
05-24-2012, 11:08 AM
I am working on them now, I didnt have any pre-draft as I planned to just use the overalls, so as you can imagine from the list I have over 200 players to give comparisons for

UKfan
05-24-2012, 11:13 AM
PS. Some of the players used in comparisons are now retired, but the comparisons are all for when that player was at the peak of his powers.

UKfan
05-24-2012, 11:48 AM
About 60 player comparisons done now, it's a nightmare coming up with so many player names for each position and so on.

How do you guys want these to be distributed, via PM so only you know who your players compare to, or are you happy for them all to be publicised?

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 11:52 AM
I'd say publish them to the public.

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 11:52 AM
I think PM and we can get how players are through writeups? if i havent scouted or drafted someone i shouldnt get strenght/weakness/comparisions

Rob S
05-24-2012, 11:54 AM
I'm okay with either, but I prefer GOW's line of thinking. Only problem there would be the write ups would need to be fairly detailed.

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 12:01 PM
god damnit tj. gives us the cell number, then doesnt react!

UKfan
05-24-2012, 12:10 PM
Alright making good headway now on the players, but I have to head out for a bit soon (soccer game), will update everything later if I can.

tjsunstein
05-24-2012, 12:30 PM
god damnit tj. gives us the cell number, then doesnt react!

Hey, I did text back and asked what draft (Soccer,NBA, and NHL) and the only one I was ill equipped for was the soccer one because of the Google doc. Give me 5 mins and I'll have two up.

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 12:32 PM
im just kidding man. im way too pumped for this.

tjsunstein
05-24-2012, 01:03 PM
Crossed my fingers and hoping for the best with those.

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 01:06 PM
Crossed my fingers and hoping for the best with those.

I scouted the Brazilian striker.

UKfan
05-24-2012, 01:15 PM
Last 2 have been put in now as well

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 01:20 PM
ukfan, you should have timD's list.


also: Best player comparisions possible

UKfan
05-24-2012, 01:24 PM
ukfan, you should have timD's list.


also: Best player comparisions possible

My bad, TimD's pick is in. Just to add a little more to the player comparisons, they were all completely random again, player names were assigned based on the OVRs and position strengths, and I had no idea which team had which player when I assigned them.

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 01:28 PM
will get like comparisons when we scout?

UKfan
05-24-2012, 01:31 PM
will get like comparisons when we scout?

Presume you mean when the draft is over and we have the transfer market going? If so then yes I will include them then.

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 01:32 PM
yea i assume sending them now about the people i scouted would just make it incredibly hard

UKfan
05-24-2012, 01:36 PM
Yeah pretty much lol, plus I want to keep some of it a bit random at the start :) test everyones managerial mettle!

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 01:41 PM
Do you have justones list or something?

Rob S
05-24-2012, 01:42 PM
Renji is way too into this.

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 01:43 PM
yes i am...

UKfan
05-24-2012, 01:45 PM
Do you have justones list or something?

No list for Justone, sorry!

Justone2
05-24-2012, 01:55 PM
Really going in to the unknown with the last few picks since i havent scouted really well i guess:P

UKfan
05-24-2012, 01:57 PM
Lol :) the fun really begins now for me.

Justone2
05-24-2012, 01:59 PM
Realy should have checked my scouted players first. Really could have picked a much better player:P

tjsunstein
05-24-2012, 01:59 PM
Lol :) the fun really begins now for me.

Yes it does. My mid floor guys didnt scout out too good, and my high floor guys were taken by others. This is where it gets crazy/lucky.

Justone2
05-24-2012, 02:03 PM
yeah i really had good luck with that latest pick of K Reid who turns out to be a really good player:D

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 02:30 PM
Sorry for the hold up. Was out and then had to decide on who to pick.

UKfan
05-24-2012, 02:32 PM
Sorry for the hold up. Was out and then had to decide on who to pick.

You also missed a number off the phone number you left haha!

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 02:33 PM
****.

It's 07779961209

UKfan
05-24-2012, 02:38 PM
Starting to see how things might be starting to go now, I think things are looking competitive!

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 02:40 PM
im willing to share scouting information especially for defensive players for other information ;)

tjsunstein
05-24-2012, 02:40 PM
Im doing this primarily from an ipad but I really, really wish that I could print that google doc and implement my scouting/notes. I might have to make a trip to the library since my laptop is down and my printer out of ink.

UKfan
05-24-2012, 02:41 PM
Ooooooh, things are getting interesting!

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 02:43 PM
We can form the GOW Scouting Network where we put together our information to make a super list. I like it!

Justone2
05-24-2012, 02:44 PM
well i am really going into the dark here and when you forgot the only good player you scouted in the middle group its really not very handy. Well lets hope i can trust my luck some more.

tjsunstein
05-24-2012, 02:45 PM
We can form the GOW Scouting Network where we put together our information to make a super list. I like it!

I'm down but Who can guarantee 100% accuracy?

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 02:45 PM
We can form the GOW Scouting Network where we put together our information to make a super list. I like it!
if you need scouting information we can talk!

UKfan
05-24-2012, 02:47 PM
If people wish to share info, feel free, and I will not advise on the authenticity of the numbers claimed, you guys can deal with all that yourself :)

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 03:12 PM
well my first mid guess. seems like i missed a little bit.

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 03:21 PM
I'm not gonna share info GOW, sorry.

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 03:21 PM
okay im fine with that

SuperPacker
05-24-2012, 04:44 PM
For a players potential, is the lowest number the lowest that player can become, or can they possibly never grow to their potential?

Gay Ork Wang
05-24-2012, 04:48 PM
i think if you get 86-90 the highest the player can become is between 86-90 somewhere.

UKfan
05-24-2012, 04:49 PM
The scouting numbers potentials indicates the range their final potential lies in, PMs once you draft the player show the players actual final potential, if that makes sense.

So for example if you scouted SuperPacker, and I said

SuperPacker, current OVR 1, potential 21-25, his potential he can finally reach will be somewhere between 21 and 25. Once you draft him you get the final value, which will lie between 21 and 25, say 23.

This 23 is the max OVR your player can reach, and will reach barring any difficulties (long term injuries, lack of game experience etc.)