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gpngc
06-10-2012, 12:03 PM
Which team is the best?

Team A

Offense
QB: Eli Manning
RB: Matt Forte
WR: Calvin Johnson
TE: Vernon Davis
LT: Michael Roos
LG: Stefen Wisniewski
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Josh Sitton
RT: Michael Oher
WR: Victor Cruz
WR: Vincent Jackson

Defense
NT: Casey Hampton
DT: Brodrick Bunkley
OLB: Clay Matthews
ILB: London Fletcher
ILB: Desmond Bishop
OLB: Tamba Hali
CB: Jonathan Joseph
CB: Tramon Williams
SS: Dashon Goldson
FS: Patrick Chung
CB: Brandon Browner

Team B

OFFENSE

QB: Philip Rivers

RB: Darren McFadden

WR: Brandon Lloyd

WR: Miles Austin

WR: Percy Harvin

TE: Aaron Hernandez

LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson

LG: Logan Mankins

C: Chris Myers

RG: Brian Waters

RT: Eric Winston

DEFENSE

LE: Carlos Dunlap

DT: Marcell Dareus

NT: Vince Wilfork

RE: Calais Campbell

SLB: Jarret Johnson

MLB: Karlos Dansby

WLB: Jerod Mayo

LCB: Darrelle Revis

FS: Michael Griffin

SS: Kam Chancellor

RCB: Joe Haden

Team C

QB: Aaron Rodgers
HB: DeMarco Murray
WR: Mike Wallace
WR: Roddy White
WR: Wes Wlker
TE: Rob Gronkowski
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Justin Blalock
C: Ryan Kalil
RG: Zane Beadles
RT: Tyron Smith

DE: Cliff Avril
DT:Karl Klug
DT: Terrance Knighton
DE: Chris Long
OLB: Lance Briggs
MLB: Brian Urlacher
OLB: Chad Greenway
CB: Drayton Florence
CB: Leon Hall
S: Eric Weddle
S: Tyvon Branch

Team D

Offense:
QB: Drew Brees
RB: Lasean McCoy
WR: Greg Jennings
WR: Jordy Nelson
WR: Dez Bryant
TE: Jermichael Finley

Offensive Line:
T: Donald Penn
G: Andy Levitre
C: Scott Wells
G: Brandon Moore
T: Bryan Bulaga

Defensive Line:
DE: Julius Peppers
DT/DE: Cullen Jenkins
DT/NT: Isaac Sopoaga
DE: Elvis Dumervil

Linebackers:
OLB: Von Miller
MLB: Demeco Ryans
OLB: Kamerion Wimbley

Secondary:
CB: Patrick Peterson
CB: Carlos Rogers
CB/S: Charles Woodson
S: TJ Ward

Team E

QB: Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Chris Johnson
WR: AJ Green
WR: Kenny Britt
WR: Jeremy Maclin
TE: Fred Davis
LT: Ryan Clady
LG: Mike Iupati
C: Alex Mack
RG: Mike Pouncey
RT: Jake Long


DE: Haloti Ngata
NT: Kyle Williams
DE: Richard Seymour
OLB: Brian Orakpo
MLB: NaVorro Bowman
MLB: Lawrence Timmons
OLB: LaMarr Woodley
CB: Nnamdi Asomugha
FS: Morgan Burnett
SS: Kenny Phillips
CB: Champ Bailey

Team F

QB: Matt Stafford
HB: Ray Rice
WR: Hakeem Nicks
WR: Reggie Wayne
WR: Stevie Johnson
TE: Jermaine Gresham
LT: Joe Staley
LG: Ben Grubbs
C: Eric Wood
RG: Harvey Dahl
RT: Tyson Clabo

3-4
DE: Red Bryant
NT: Paul Soliai
DE: Darnell Dockett
OLB: Mario Williams
ILB: Patrick Willis
ILB: Daryl Washington
OLB: DeMarcus Ware
CB: Brandon Carr
FS: Malcolm Jenkins
SS: Adrian Wilson
CB: Chris Gamble

4-3
DE: Red Bryant
NT: Paul Soliai
UT: Darnell Dockett
DE: Mario Williams
WLB: Daryl Washington
MLB: Patrick Willis
SLB: DeMarcus Ware
CB: Brandon Carr
FS: Malcolm Jenkins
SS: Adrian Wilson
CB: Chris Gamble

Team G
QB: PEYTON MANNING, Tennesee
RB: ADRIAN PETERSON, Oklahoma
XWR: LARRY FITZGERALD, Pittsburgh
ZWR: DESEAN JACKSON, Cal
YWR: ERIC DECKER, Minnesota
TE: JASON WITTEN, Tennessee
LT: TRENT WILLIAMS, Oklahoma
LG: STEVE HUTCHINSON, Michigan
C: JOHN SULLIVAN, Notre Dame
RG: CHRIS SNEE, Boston College
RT: ANDRE SMITH, Alabama

DE: TRENT COLE, Cincinnati
DT: NDAMUKONG SUH, Nebraska
DT: SIONE POUHA, Utah
DE: CHARLES JOHNSON, Georgia
OLB: DAVID HARRIS, Michigan
MLB: D'QWELL JACKSON, Maryland
OLB: DARYL SMITH, Georgia Tech
CB: COREY WEBSTER, LSU
FS: EARL THOMAS, Texas
SS: ERIC BERRY, Tennessee
CB: ANTONIO CROMARTIE, Florida State

Team H

QB: Tom Brady
RB: Fred Jackson
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Marques Colston
TE: Jimmy Graham
LT: Andrew Whitworth
LG: Jahri Evans
C: Max Unger
RG: Evan Mathis
RT: David Stewart

4-3, Cover 2
DE: Jason Babin
NT: Jurrell Casey
DT: Justin Smith
DE: Cameron Wake
WLB: Clint Session
MLB: Jon Beason
SLB: Erin Henderson
CB: Asante Samuel
FS: O.J. Atogwe
SS: George Wilson
CB: Brent Grimes

Team I

QB Cam Newton, Panthers
RB Arian Foster, Texans
WR Julio Jones, Falcons
WR Antonio Brown, Steelers
TE Antonio Gates, Chargers
TE2/JOKER Jared Cook, Titans

LT Jason Peters, Eagles
LG Carl Nicks, Bucs
C Jason Kelce, Eagles
RG Branden Albert, Chiefs
RT Jordan Gross, Panthers


Defense - 43

LDE Jason Pierre-Paul, Giants
DT Geno Atkins, Bengals
NT Jay Ratliff, Cowboys
RDE Jared Allen, Vikings

SLB Brian Cushing, Texans
MLB Ray Lewis, Ravens
WLB Sean Weatherspoon, Falcons

CB Lardarius Webb, Ravens
SS Troy Polamalu, Steelers
FS Ed Reed, Ravens
CB Cortland Finnegan, Rams

Team J

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Maurice Jones-Drew
WR: Andre Johnson
WR: Brandon Marshall
WR: Anquan Boldin
TE: Brandon Pettigrew
LT: Duane Brown
LG: Davin Joseph
C: Maurkice Pouncey
RG: Marshal Yanda
RT: Sebastian Vollmer

DE: JJ Watt
NT: BJ Raji
DE: Kevin Williams
SLB: Terrell Suggs
MLB: Derrick Johnson
MLB: Paul Pozluszny
WLB: Aldon Smith
CB: Brandon Flowers
CB: Ike Taylor
FS: Jairus Byrd
SS: Roman Harper

Sloopy
06-10-2012, 12:05 PM
How are these teams organized? Or just randomly?

gpngc
06-10-2012, 12:07 PM
How are these teams organized? Or just randomly?

Ten participants in a draft.

WCH
06-10-2012, 12:58 PM
Team D's offense would pass for about 5,500 yards, and their defense would record more sacks than anybody could count.

cmarq83
06-10-2012, 01:12 PM
I like team I a lot. 2 of the best lines for today's league, dominant rushing attack, and the secondary is amazing. If Cam Newton and Julio Jones were able to play up to their potential I'd definitely have them.

tjsunstein
06-10-2012, 01:39 PM
I like team I a lot. 2 of the best lines for today's league, dominant rushing attack, and the secondary is amazing. If Cam Newton and Julio Jones were able to play up to their potential I'd definitely have them.

The parameters for the draft were for one year only, if I recall correctly...

Matthew Jones
06-10-2012, 02:38 PM
I can't believe some people are voting for their own team.

ChiFan24
06-10-2012, 02:45 PM
The team that drafted Ryan over Cutty is automatically disqualified.

bigbluedefense
06-10-2012, 03:11 PM
Eli to Megatron would make me bust multiples nuts in 1 shot.

TheBoyWonder22
06-10-2012, 04:15 PM
What do you guys think of Team F? That's the one I voted for and I want to see what you guys don't like about it.

ChiFan24
06-10-2012, 04:18 PM
It's either A or D. Gonna go with A.

vidae
06-10-2012, 04:47 PM
No one found room for Jamaal Charles on a team? You all fail.

TheBoyWonder22
06-10-2012, 05:21 PM
A is pretty sweet. I don't really like some of the OLine and the inside backers, but overall that's a top 3 team.

tjsunstein
06-10-2012, 05:57 PM
Team I's defense is easily the best, Team D's offense (disregarding the OL), I think the most complete team may be Team G but its real hard to rank these.Team A, B, and E deserve some love too.

TheBoyWonder22
06-10-2012, 06:25 PM
Team I's defense is easily the best
I disagree with this. The versatility of F is so sweet. The guy who thought of Red Bryant in a 3-4 is a genius. Bravo haha.

tjsunstein
06-10-2012, 06:31 PM
Im afraid people are unaware that this is for one year only, making Reed that great of an addition to any of these defenses, Ray Lewis as well. Whereas Guys like Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, and Newton to an extent have shown that promise to be great, they havent established themselves to knowing that you'll get a certain production from them.

*Im not knocking any team, especially team I but they have two players that best exemplify my point of potential being valued over production in cases.

Bucs_Rule
06-10-2012, 07:21 PM
Ten participants in a draft.

Do you have the records of which players were drafted in each round?

Sportsfan486
06-10-2012, 11:50 PM
I'd go team I versus C for the Super Bowl.

C has a mediocre defense but that offense would score on literally every possession. Great O-Line, explosive running back, Rodgers to Wallace, Gronk, Welker, White? Holy jeez-o-roni.

I has a rather brilliant D. Stacked with pass rushers and an absurd secondary that's combined with a great run stopping and versatile line backer group.

In the end, however, I couldn't take a 2nd year QB with a comparatively weak group of pass receiving weapons (compared to all these other teams) over team C's absurdity. Plus they've got the best LT in the game and an up-and-coming RT to handle I's ends, or at least slow them down.

My problem with team D is that as amazing a pass rushing group that D is, they're lacking on the back end and in coverage from the linebackers.

C wins.

yodabear
06-11-2012, 12:04 AM
C has Aaron Rodgers, I took C...

Rosebud
06-11-2012, 12:07 AM
Top 3 are A, E and I. E has the best front 7 on D with a great secondary and an excellent offense, Team A would be an absolutely unstoppable machine on offense with Eli throwing to Megatron, Cruz, Forte and V-Jax behind that OL and team I just needs Cam to take that next step to be just as good as either of the other two.

Ngatachance92
06-11-2012, 12:08 AM
The homer in me is tempted to pick E for Ngata alone or J for Suggs... But trying to look at it objectively I think ill take team F. Is this a fantasy draft for the upcoming season?

XxXdragonXxX
06-11-2012, 12:38 AM
Team G if Peyton and Peterson are anywhere near 100%. Peyton to Fitz, Desean and Witten, handing off to AP? Unstoppable. And that defense is pretty sick to, especially the DL and secondary.

PackerLegend
06-11-2012, 09:10 AM
Team D... amazing O (would be GOAT if it had A Rodgers :D but Breed will do) and a pretty awesome D as well.

yodabear
06-11-2012, 01:50 PM
Not only does C have Aaron Rodgers, it also has GRONK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Game over!

jrdrylie
06-11-2012, 01:58 PM
Not only does C have Aaron Rodgers, it also has GRONK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Game over!

This guy knows his ****.

TheBoyWonder22
06-11-2012, 03:12 PM
Not only does C have Aaron Rodgers, it also has GRONK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Game over!
Idk, I think he has easily the worst defense. Doesn't that matter?

jrdrylie
06-11-2012, 03:44 PM
Idk, I think he has easily the worst defense. Doesn't that matter?

In 2011, New England and New York were 31st and 27th in defense respectively and made the Super Bowl. Green Bay was 32nd in defense and went 15-1. Jacksonville, Seattle, and Cleveland were all top-10 defenses.

The old mantra of "Defense Wins Championships" is the most outdated saying in all of sports. In today's NFL, defense is practically irrelevant. Truthfully, if I had the choice of having the best offense and the worst defense (teams like Green Bay and New England) or the best defense and an average offense (San Francisco and New York Jets), I'd take option one.

bigbluedefense
06-11-2012, 04:25 PM
In 2011, New England and New York were 31st and 27th in defense respectively and made the Super Bowl. Green Bay was 32nd in defense and went 15-1. Jacksonville, Seattle, and Cleveland were all top-10 defenses.

The old mantra of "Defense Wins Championships" is the most outdated saying in all of sports. In today's NFL, defense is practically irrelevant. Truthfully, if I had the choice of having the best offense and the worst defense (teams like Green Bay and New England) or the best defense and an average offense (San Francisco and New York Jets), I'd take option one.

Both NYG and NE's defenses played exponentially better in the postseason than they did in the regular season.

NYG's defense shut out the Falcons, held the Packers offense to 20 points (14 of which came from gifts from the refs, 17 to the 49ers and 17 to the Patriots highly touted offense.

Defense does win championships, that won't change.

gpngc
06-11-2012, 04:46 PM
I fail to see any weaknesses on one team's particular roster from top to bottom.

SuperPacker
06-11-2012, 04:50 PM
I fail to see why people are voting for their own teams and trying to talk up their own team. Wasn't the reason of doing a vote on here, to make the votes more reliable and fair. People trying to say why their team is good instead of just letting people think for themselves is exactly the opposite of that.

tjsunstein
06-11-2012, 07:15 PM
I fail to see why people are voting for their own teams and trying to talk up their own team. Wasn't the reason of doing a vote on here, to make the votes more reliable and fair. People trying to say why their team is good instead of just letting people think for themselves is exactly the opposite of that.

I wasnt the only one that voted for my own team nor am I talking any one particular team up.

jrdrylie
06-11-2012, 07:20 PM
I fail to see why people are voting for their own teams and trying to talk up their own team. Wasn't the reason of doing a vote on here, to make the votes more reliable and fair. People trying to say why their team is good instead of just letting people think for themselves is exactly the opposite of that.

I don't know who you are talking about SP.

:coolface:

ATLDirtyBirds
06-11-2012, 07:38 PM
Is team A running the 2-4-5?

tjsunstein
06-11-2012, 07:50 PM
Is team A running the 2-4-5?

It appears so, and it's pretty genius

ChiFan24
06-11-2012, 08:04 PM
NVM, just realized I probably shouldn't guess whose team is whose.

TACKLE
06-11-2012, 08:05 PM
If team A isn't BBD, I'd be shocked.

BBD wasn't apart of this.

SuperPacker
06-11-2012, 08:08 PM
I wasn't talking about anyone specifically, TJ :P

And yeah, team A is running a 2-4-5.

WCH
06-11-2012, 09:10 PM
For all intents and purposes, the Packers run a 2-4-5 as their base defense. I'm not sure what last seasons numbers were, but in 2010 they ran it about 70% of the time. It's why getting bigger at OLB (Nick Perry) makes a lot of sense for them. The two OLBs might really be playing DE in a traditional 4-2-5 nickel defense. It's also why Woodson is absolutely not overrated at this stage of his career. His ability to be a CB/S/LB hybrid makes the whole thing workable. They try to use Jarrett Bush in the same role when Woodson can't go, and a blind person could see the drop-off.

A lot of teams experiment with this stuff, but Dom Capers has taken it to a new level ever since he spent that year in New England. I'd love to have heard the conversations that Belichick and Capers must have had during that 2008 season.

Docta
06-16-2012, 07:48 PM
Thoughts on every team:
A: 2 defensive linemen? That would just put more attention on Hali and Matthews.

B: Ferguson and Jenkins is an average tackle. We did disregard current injuries, but McFadden has had other injuries, and would still be prone.

C: Beadles was absolutely terrible last season. Still voted for this team.

D: Woodson would be a great slot CB, but he's never played safety. Which means you only have 1 safety, which would be a problem. Ryans hasn't been the same since that last injury.

E: Chris Johnson had one of the best o-lines in the league, and still couldn't deliver. Clady played RT in his first season. You're taking away Long's talents.

F: Average secondary in a passing league.

G: Decker might not even be the best receiver on his real team. Peyton's injuries still count. Webster is below average.

H: Probably could have waited on taking Evans. The next guard wasn't taken until several rounds later. Probably would have a vote if he didn't put Cover 2 there.

I: Kelce was the worst center in the league last season. Weatherspoon was just a good player on a bad defense. (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2012/broken-tackles-2011-part-ii)

J: Pettigrew is average. Ryan has poor arm strength.. Harper's a poor tackler.