Elder Scrolls Battleground Game - Mages/Grizz WIN!

[UKfan]

I'm sticking with my gut here that says the way it went down is a big indicator Cigaro is in a guild, we shall see his character in battle!

[vidae]

To me, it's that you garnered 6 votes so late in the game that made me go against you. You got 6 votes in despite there already being appeals and likely a number of votes already being cast for people like TH with no reason for them to go to you. It reeks of a guild / faction holding and deciding who to rally around.

I'm not saying I disagree with any particular point, but how do we know that they were late in the day votes? Did I miss a post where that information was revealed?

(Sorry, I was getting my haircut and I just got back)

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I don't know if ATL is here so

Fall on your sword sir!

I have just returned, and see that I have yet to act.


vote: Cigaro

Which makes 13. FALL ON YOUR SWORD SIR.

[vidae]

I'll make the deciding vote. It will be very interesting to see what happens here.

vote : Cigaro

I literally just caught up and this does seem like the best course of action.

I am curious why broth is all over my dick though. What have I done to be suspicious?

[UKfan]

I'm not saying I disagree with any particular point, but how do we know that they were late in the day votes? Did I miss a post where that information was revealed?

(Sorry, I was getting my haircut and I just got back)

Mainly just the fact that Cigaro had been absent until his big grandiose speech late on in the day (relatively speaking).

[BeerBaron]

FINAL Vote Count:

Cigaro (14) - SP, Woot, UKFan, ngata, Broth, Gonzo, JR, Rufus, killswitch, TH, D-Unit, Grizz, ATL, vidae

With 26 alive, 14 are needed for majority.

[BeerBaron]

Grizz had been ready to go in the arena for some time after being selected by the Battlemaster. And oddly enough, it would be the one who selected him voted in, Cigaro, that he would face.

Cigaro begrudgingly entered the arena, but did appear confident. Grizz stood solemly at the opposite end.

"We have the Battlemaster's pick, Grizzlegom, facing off with the Battlemaster himself, Cigaro!" cried the arena announcer to a cheer from the crowd of onlookers.

The two stared eachother down for some time before Cigaro made the first move. A flurry of fireballs struck Grizz as shielded his face. Next, came a lightning spell that drove Grizz backwards, but he remained on his feet.

Finally, Grizz charged Cigaro. Cigaro tried to defend himself with his staff, but Grizz knocked it to the side before impaling Cigaro onto his sword. Grizz withdrew the sword and walked away muttering to himself. "Weak...."

Cigaro's body doubled over as his the Battlemaster's crown fell from his head into the mixture of sand and blood on the arena floor...

Final Score:
Grizz: 328
Cigaro: 321.6

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Cigaro - J'Zargo - Mages Guild Apprentice/Battlemaster - Has been killed.

Night 2 has begun! Send in your night actions asap to BOTH Cain and myself!

[BeerBaron]

We have decided to consider this the "evening" phase of Day 2 and reopen the thread to allow you to pick the new BM.

You are ONLY picking the new BM at this time. You may continue to send in night actions, but they will not take effect until this phase is over and a new BM is picked. That is why this phase is being considered the "evening" phase.

Please refrain from discussing anything that does not relate directly to choosing the new BM.

Majority vote is required to become the new BM. Once someone has half (rounded up) of the votes required, a 2 hour time limit will begin.

[vidae]

Ok well I think it's pretty clear that Grizz is a member of the Fighters Guild, so he will not receive a vote from me.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Ok well I think it's pretty clear that Grizz is a member of the Fighters Guild.

Indeed. I voted for myself as battlemaster last time because I am the only person I trust. I know ATL will step up and ask for our votes, will anybody else?

[Grizzlegom]

Ok well I think it's pretty clear that Grizz is a member of the Fighters Guild.

I am a member of no guild, if my posts so far have not been enough to sway you then I have nothing else for you.

That being said, who wants to be battlemaster? I have no interest in the title, I simply enjoy the mayhem of the arena.

[vidae]

I am a member of no guild, if my posts so far have not been enough to sway you then I have nothing else for you.

That being said, who wants to be battlemaster? I have no interest in the title, I simply enjoy the mayhem of the arena.

You're lying and it's pretty clear. You're not going to get a vote from me for the position even though you're trying to play coy about it, sorry.

I have no idea who to vote in at this point though.

[Wootylicous]

Vote TH

I kind of trust him

[Dr. Gonzo]

I assume the guilds will be a little bit weary of being so obvious again. I will throw my name out there. I am good and will be ever vigilante in trying to weed out who is evil. I will also take opinions into consideration. The only person I would consider voting instead of myself unless someone makes a great argument is ATL because even if he is evil he is smart enough to make battles that will help the town.

[Grizzlegom]

You're lying and it's pretty clear. You're not going to get a vote from me for the position even though you're trying to play coy about it, sorry.

I have no idea who to vote in at this point though.

Honestly, I'm not trying to be coy, and I'm not lying about being in any guild. I don't know anything about this theme but I'm sure I'm not the only powerful fighter that is not in a guild.

If I was voted battlemaster, I'd just select myself to send to the arena.

[Grizzlegom]

Vote: ATL

I voted for him in the blind vote, no reason for me to change my mind now.

[vidae]

If Wooty trusts TH then I don't trust him. Automatically.

I wouldn't hate Gonzo as the BM, or ATL for that matter, since he led us to a (sort of) victory last game, but I still don't really trust any of you *******.

[killxswitch]

Grizz is clearly either Fighters Guild or if there is an Imperial Legion maybe them. Saying what basically amounts to "Nuh uh I'm not" in your posts does not clear you Grizz. But if the scoring is similar to the gladiator game then that was a pretty epic battle.

As for BM, not that many seem interested that I would trust (or at all for that matter), except for maybe TH. So for now

vote: TH for BM

[UKfan]

As myself and Gonzo seemed to have similar views on Cigaro last time around and he has promised to be a Battle Master of the people, I think for now he has my vote.

Vote: Gonzo

[D-Unit]

If Th is around, I'll vote for him as it was between him and Cigaro last time. You around TH?

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (2): Woot, Killswitch
ATL (2): Grizz, Broth
Gonzo (1): UKfan

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[Brothgar]

Hell it worked last time for the town.

Vote ATL

[Grizzlegom]

Grizz is clearly either Fighters Guild or if there is an Imperial Legion maybe them. Saying what basically amounts to "Nuh uh I'm not" in your posts does not clear you Grizz. But if the scoring is similar to the gladiator game then that was a pretty epic battle.


How can anyone be "cleared" at this point? As I said earlier, if my comments about the town-aligned win condition have gone unnoticed thus far, then there is nothing else I can do to sway people. I just hope you guys are smart enough to let me continue to fight it out in the arena so I can take as many guildies with me as possible.

[SuperPacker]

He has the knowledge of the game and made a good case on the first day.

Vote: TH

[Dr. Gonzo]

Vote: ATL

After considering it I will be in Montreal all day tomorrow and unable to post because I will be waiting in line so I will not be able to be as effective as I would want. ATL will at the very least play the role hard and if we don't like what he see from him we can send him to fight. Having a battlemaster who will challenge people and get everyone talking is crucial. I appreciate your vote UK and if this were Saturday I would push harder but I would not do a disservice to the town by taking on such a crucial role the day before I won't be able to post. If ATL is ousted I will be all over being Battlemaster V3.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

As always, I am up to the task. I'm not going to claim that I have an ounce of knowledge about the game, but shall you choose me, I shall lead us to freedom once more.


Since I don't vote for myself unless it's a reverse fall on your sword scenario: TH or Gonzo are the others I wouldn't be opposed to. I would say killswitch, but I don't know enough about his mafia play to feel confident in giving him this role.

[Dr. Gonzo]

How can anyone be "cleared" at this point? As I said earlier, if my comments about the town-aligned win condition have gone unnoticed thus far, then there is nothing else I can do to sway people. I just hope you guys are smart enough to let me continue to fight it out in the arena so I can take as many guildies with me as possible.

Some people are just cray Grizz. Or aligned with each other. I do think you fighting tomorrow is a fairly good idea.

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (3): Woot, Killswitch, SP
ATL (3): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo


With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[UKfan]

Looks like I need to remove my vote then if Gonzo does not want the position

Unvote: Gonzo

[Dr. Gonzo]

Looks like I need to remove my vote then if Gonzo does not want the position

Unvote: Gonzo

I got carried away haha. Since it is so early we need someone who will put the pressure on people. Normally that would be me but tomorrow it just won't happen from me. In my steed I think ATL makes a good choice. Hell I would even say someone like Woot although he may be a bit too crazy and if Shane was more active he is pretty good and getting people talking too much when they shouldn't.

[RufusMcDaniel]

vote: TitanHope for BM

He seems to know a thing or two about this, plus I trust titans fans.

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (4): Woot, Killswitch, SP, Rufus
ATL (3): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo


With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[UKfan]

TH has impressive game knowledge, but right now he does not seem to be here which is somewhat offputting. ATL what would you bring to the table as the lead of our great civilisation?

[Ngatachance92]

Im having trouble falling asleep so I decided to check back in. I think TH would be the best option at this point, the town can really use his knowledge of the universe. If if turns out having him as Battle Master isn't beneficial to the town, we could always send him to fight the warrior he hand picked himself like what happened to Cigaro.

Vote:TitanHope

:Now I'm Rolling over.

[vidae]

I'm going to vote for ATL. I definitely do not trust Wooty or TH. I could see Killswitch as the BM but unless ATL doesn't want it then he'll be my vote.

vote : ATL

I trusted you last time too sir. Don't let us down!

[Dr. Gonzo]

Nothing against TH but this game knowledge thing gets to me. What exactly does game knowledge help with? Every theme game I have played I have only ever seen evil use game knowledge to make it seem like they are helping. As a consultant TH is great but I think we need someone more active and aggressive as battlemaster. Just my two cent. In any case I hope whoever is chosen learns from Cigaro and takes a more active role in figuring out who is good and evil.

[Brothgar]

I'm going to vote for ATL. I definitely do not trust Wooty or TH. I could see Killswitch as the BM but unless ATL doesn't want it then he'll be my vote.



I trusted you last time too sir. Don't let us down!

Vidae is a werewolf barksdale! don't trust him!

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (5): Woot, Killswitch, SP, Rufus, ngata
ATL (4): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo, vidae


With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[ATLDirtyBirds]

ATL what would you bring to the table as the lead of our great civilisation?

Guaranteed victory over the guilds in our fight for freedom. Or at least as much as I can do in my 2 terms (YOU CAN'T LIMIT ME CAIN/BB). I have no problem admitting I know jack **** about Skyrim, but I think I fit the role well regardless, see Gonzo's points.

[D-Unit]

I just don't get how trusting someone from past mafia games can be used as sound logic for voting for him again. If his role is different, it matters none. I was a death eater in HP and ATL as Voldemort didn't work that well.

[UKfan]

Vote: ATL

I'm suitably sold

[TitanHope]

If Th is around, I'll vote for him as it was between him and Cigaro last time. You around TH?

Yes I am. I've been home all day, and baby Aidan and my sister are healthy and resting comfortably at the hospital! He. Is. ADORABLE!

I'm willing to take over the role as Battlemaster if you all think I'm best for the job. I'll do my best to help guide us regardless of my title though, and if ATL did a good job as the leader last time, then I also trust his leadership along with the likes of my, Killswitch, and the others' knowledge of the game to help us conquer the Guilds.

Perhaps me this round, and once everyone starts to get a better understanding of the game, ATL or Gonzo can take over the next round?

[jrdrylie]

ATL makes quite a compelling case for Battle Master

Vote ATL

[vidae]

TH has knowledge of the world this game is based in, not this game itself.

I stand by my vote for ATL.

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (5): Woot, Killswitch, SP, Rufus, ngata
ATL (6): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo, vidae, UKfan, JR


With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[Wootylicous]

Unvote TH
Vote ATL

Might as well give ATL the power to secure this town right now! TH you will get your chance next round !

[SuperPacker]

Seems as though ATL being BM is inevitable.

UNVOTE: TH
VOTE: ATL

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (5): Killswitch, Rufus, ngata
ATL (8): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo, vidae, UKfan, JR, Woot, SP

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

The two hour time limit is now in effect.

[sbh15]

just got back from making a trip to Philly with my brother and I've caught up a little. that day was a doozy, but it makes sense a guild would make sure they get the Battlemaster role after what happened in the Gladiator game.

as for the new Battlemaster, all due respect to TH, but (like just about everyone else) I have to go with ATL's experience over TH's game knowledge.

Vote: ATL

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (5): Killswitch, Rufus, ngata
ATL (8): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo, vidae, UKfan, JR, Woot, SP, sbh

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

6:15 pm EST is the end of the elections.

[TitanHope]

Vote: ATL

Discernment and the decision making process is important, and I can explain and speculate without being Battlemaster, so hopefully I can help ATL make more informed decisions. Good move, strategically.

[D-Unit]

Yes I am. I've been home all day, and baby Aidan and my sister are healthy and resting comfortably at the hospital! He. Is. ADORABLE!

I'm willing to take over the role as Battlemaster if you all think I'm best for the job. I'll do my best to help guide us regardless of my title though, and if ATL did a good job as the leader last time, then I also trust his leadership along with the likes of my, Killswitch, and the others' knowledge of the game to help us conquer the Guilds.

Perhaps me this round, and once everyone starts to get a better understanding of the game, ATL or Gonzo can take over the next round?
Well that does it for me. My son's name is Aden! Spelled differently, but same sound!

Vote: TH

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (5): Killswitch, Rufus, ngata, D-Unit
ATL (10): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo, vidae, UKfan, JR, Woot, SP, sbh, TH,

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

6:15 pm EST is the end of the elections.

[SuperPacker]

ATL has 10 votes, IBC.

[Raiderz4Life]

Imma go

vote TH

[killxswitch]

Vote: ATL

Discernment and the decision making process is important, and I can explain and speculate without being Battlemaster, so hopefully I can help ATL make more informed decisions. Good move, strategically.

If TH is going to vote for ATL then I guess I will too.

unvote: TH
vote: ATL

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (4): Rufus, ngata, D-Unit, R4L
ATL (11): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo, vidae, UKfan, JR, Woot, SP, sbh, TH, Killswitch

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

6:15 pm EST is the end of the elections.
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[Dr. Gonzo]

I am not calling ATL out but something to keep an eye out in case I die is people like r4l voting TH this late. Maybe a vote so if ATL turns out to be evil he can say he never elected ATL.

[D-Unit]

Vote: ATL

Discernment and the decision making process is important, and I can explain and speculate without being Battlemaster, so hopefully I can help ATL make more informed decisions. Good move, strategically.
You don't even want it. Makes me want to vote you even more. Keeping my vote on you. I think you'd do a good job.

[D-Unit]

So is people's main support for ATL because he did well in Gladiator or is there something more to that?

[D-Unit]

I am not calling ATL out but something to keep an eye out in case I die is people like r4l voting TH this late. Maybe a vote so if ATL turns out to be evil he can say he never elected ATL.
Or maybe R4L just got here. You might be reading too much into it.

But I'm not defending R4L so whatevs.

[UKfan]

That and that no one else wants it

[SuperPacker]

Or maybe R4L just got here. You might be reading too much into it.

But I'm not defending R4L so whatevs.

Why would that make a difference?

[vidae]

Why would that make a difference?

Was that a serious question? He said he should be wary of R4L jumping on a vote and someone suggested it was maybe because he just got here, and you're asking why that makes a difference?

[D-Unit]

That and that no one else wants it
Because no one else wants it? What if I wanted it? LOL.

I don't know crap about this game except you roam around, there is a big map and you get to fight dragons. :freakout:

What are the advantages/disadvantages of being BM? Why don't people want it? Sorry, I didn't play the Gladiator game... so I'm learning on the fly here.

[D-Unit]

Why would that make a difference?
How are you gonna vote if you're not here? :facepalm:

[UKfan]

If you wanted it then state your case. You get to decide who fights, which is good, but you also put a target on yourself if you mess things up

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Do you want it D?

[Wootylicous]

It's pretty clear ATL is gonna be the BM this round I don't see the holdup on this :/

[vidae]

It's pretty clear ATL is gonna be the BM this round I don't see the holdup on this :/

Yeah, you're absolutely right. Why discuss what is a huge decision? We should all vote as quickly as possible and not leave any time to talk it out or think about it at all.

A+ Wooty!

[ATLDirtyBirds]

It's pretty clear ATL is gonna be the BM this round I don't see the holdup on this :/

Talk to DUnit and R4L.

[vidae]

I have to go for an hour or two but my vote is already in.

[Wootylicous]

Stop being an ass vid! :(

[D-Unit]

If you wanted it then state your case. You get to decide who fights, which is good, but you also put a target on yourself if you mess things up
What is the goal of the BM then? To try not to select a townie to go into the arena?

[vidae]

Stop being so clearly evil Wooty!

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I got you Woot. Vidae, reveal yourself!

[vidae]

I got you Woot. Vidae, reveal yourself!

I will punch you!

[D-Unit]

Do you want it D?
Would you vote for me?

[Wootylicous]

I will punch you!

Oh now you want to punch our battlemaster...

Reveal yourself!

[ATLDirtyBirds]

But seriously, it is odd that with the vote clearly in my favor R4L would chime in with... "Imma go" and then votes TH. Not much of a discussion there. And then DUnit is acting like he doesn't understand the role, but he already casted a vote...

[UKfan]

What is the goal of the BM then? To try not to select a townie to go into the arena?

It's all going to depend on your role and your motives within the game isn't it. ATL is the only person who has been a BM previously so he probably has more insight than me, I also wasn't in the last game and am picking it up on the fly.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Would you vote for me?

Present a case good sir.

[vidae]

Oh now you want to punch our battlemaster...

Reveal yourself!

Nope. I hate role revealing. I don't care if I die in every single mafia game from here until the end of time, I won't do it. It completely cheapens these games.

I will say that the tyrannical reign of these guilds must be put to an end!

And that is all I will say.

[SuperPacker]

Was that a serious question? He said he should be wary of R4L jumping on a vote and someone suggested it was maybe because he just got here, and you're asking why that makes a difference?

He still has a chance to read the thread and realise that there is no point voting for TH. It wasn't like he had any reason for voting for TH, other than "Imma go".

[vidae]

He still has a chance to read the thread and realise that there is no point voting for TH. It wasn't like he had any reason for voting for TH, other than "Imma go".

Of course there is a point to vote for TH: he honestly believes he'll do a better job. Just because it looks like a slam dunk that ATL is going to be named Battlemaster doesn't mean he has to conform if he doesn't want to.

The fact that he came out of nowhere and voted like that is extremely suspicious, but I don't necessarily think he should be suspect #1 for it. On a list, absolutely, but some people read way too much into the most random of things.

And now I'm going to go for about an hour or two. I have some family stuff I need to help with/take care of. Good luck gents!

[SuperPacker]

Sooo...What's happening?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

God damnit SP.

[Wootylicous]

Everyone is weighting in can't you see ?!

:facepalm:

[ImBrotherCain]

Due to inactivity the election for Battlemaster will end in approximately 15 minutes or 6 pm EST.

[CJSchneider]

At this point TH sounds good, and I would consider him as the front runner on the list he mentioned initially.

[Brothgar]

I'm going to vote SP into the arena for not making his Zombie Draft picks

[CJSchneider]

Elect:TH

One could also make a point that anyone who voted last time is in a guild.

[ImBrotherCain]

Battle Master Elections:

TitanHope (5): Rufus, ngata, D-Unit, R4L, CJ
ATL (11): Grizz, Broth, Gonzo, vidae, UKfan, JR, Woot, SP, sbh, TH, Killswitch

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

6:00 pm EST is the end of the elections.

[Raiderz4Life]

Why would that make a difference?

I'm not home...so I'm keeping up on my phone...I typed in my vote before any of the updates showed up on my phone...I saw ATL and TH votes but no vote count so I went with my orig pick

[SuperPacker]

I'm going to vote SP into the arena for not making his Zombie Draft picks

You didn't even PM me...

[ImBrotherCain]

Trumpets blared as the voting closed for the day. The arena announcer, carrying a freshly cleaned Battlemaster crown, headed to the center to declare the winner.

"I hereby award the Crown of the Battlemasters to the man chosen by the popular vote:"

http://i.imgur.com/7HOB8.jpg
ATLDIRTYBIRDS

The combatants headed to their quarters to rest on Night 2.

Continue to send your night actions into Both myself and BeerBaron!

[ImBrotherCain]

A dense fog and overcast sky for Day 3 of the events reflected the mood well. While yesterday's Battlemaster selection was a bit unexpected as Cigaro's untimely demise was a too soon for the poor khajiit, this day was much darker. Someone would see their life come to an end...

That person could possibly be the Battlemaster's pick. ATL handed off the scroll to the arena announcer who walked towards the center of the battlegrounds:

http://i.imgur.com/nKcLw.jpg

Battlemaster's Pick: D-Unit

Who would the town choose as his opponent?

Day 2 has begun! With 25 remaining, 13 are needed for majority.

[Grizzlegom]

No deaths again!

[Caddy]

I assume you are fine with fighting D-Unit, Grizz?

[Grizzlegom]

I tried to make a post at the end of the day yesterday but vidae cast the hammer vote before I could finish but there are a number of normally active players we didn't hear from at all yesterday (during the day). I'd like to hear from all of these people today:

R4L
CJ
CMD
Shane
Todd
Rob S

[Grizzlegom]

I assume you are fine with fighting D-Unit, Grizz?

You better believe it.

[Ngatachance92]

I suppose we have the advantage if none of us are getting killed, we can just send them to their deaths one by one.

[FlyingElvis]

With a few nights down, it'd be nice to see someone take the reigns. A point in the right direction would be nice.

Grizz, I have to be honest - you're battle right up sure sounded like you were a battlemage.

[Caddy]

With a few nights down, it'd be nice to see someone take the reigns. A point in the right direction would be nice.

Grizz, I have to be honest - you're battle right up sure sounded like you were a battlemage.

Can't say I'm a huge fan of the mods giving that kind of information in the write-up to be honest, but that's probably a discussion best suited for the mafia thread.

That said, it's pretty apparent Grizz is part of a guild and should be sent back into the arena.

[Grizzlegom]

With a few nights down, it'd be nice to see someone take the reigns. A point in the right direction would be nice.

Grizz, I have to be honest - you're battle right up sure sounded like you were a battlemage.

deflecting a mages fireballs, absorbing a lightning bolt, and then destroying him with my sword makes me sound like a battlemage?

[Ngatachance92]

With a few nights down, it'd be nice to see someone take the reigns. A point in the right direction would be nice.

Grizz, I have to be honest - you're battle right up sure sounded like you were a battlemage.

Cigaro was the mage, Grizz sounds like a member of the warrior guild.

[Caddy]

Cigaro was the mage, Grizz sounds like a member of the warrior guild.

I might be reading into it too much, but even the comment made by Grizz in the arena ('weak') indicates to me that he is a powerful warrior of some description, almost certainly aligned to a guild like the Fighters Guild or The Companions.

[Ngatachance92]

I might be reading into it too much, but even the comment made by Grizz in the arena ('weak') indicates to me that he is a powerful warrior of some description, almost certainly aligned to a guild like the Fighters Guild or The Companions.

Yeah he's obviously a guildie and a powerful one. If he is as powerful as he claims we could just use him to dispatch the other guildies and if he dies we lose nothing.

[FlyingElvis]

Alrighty then . . . I'm just going to go sit in a corner, now that I've re-read the battle write up. I though you were throwing fire & lightning.


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/Yofclef/Smiley%20faces%201/dunce.gif

[Grizzlegom]

As I said, I'm happy to continue smiting my enemies in the arena. Cigaro put up a better fight than I expected but, in the end, he was but the first to perish upon my sword.

[FlyingElvis]

Fridays are my busiest day at work but I will try to check back at lunch time.

[Bulldogs]

Just caught up, I think it's obvious from the write-up that Grizz is a part of the Fighter's Guild, so if we go that way I have no issue with it.

[Grizzlegom]

Just caught up, I think it's obvious from the write-up that Grizz is a part of the Fighter's Guild, so if we go that way I have no issue with it.

Got anything else to add or are you just gonna re-hash what everyone else says and what appears to be the "obvious."

[jrdrylie]

I'd like to discuss D-Unit. If he is our enemy, then we definitely want to send Grizz in to smite him. But if a legitiamte argument can be made that he is our friend and ally, maybe we should send in somenoe else.

[Caddy]

I'd like to discuss D-Unit. If he is our enemy, then we definitely want to send Grizz in to smite him. But if a legitiamte argument can be made that he is our friend and ally, maybe we should send in somenoe else.

Not sure how that really helps. Obviously he is going to say he is good and that we shouldn't send Grizz (who is proven) to fight him.

[Bulldogs]

Got anything else to add or are you just gonna re-hash what everyone else says and what appears to be the "obvious."

I'm going to be very active today so I'll add as much as I usually do, just because it's obvious doesn't make it any less true. You didn't even try to refute it.

[CJSchneider]

I'd like to hear from all of these people today:

CJ


I have been super busy this week helping my wife set up her new classroom. I got back in the other day just in time to vote for BM. I will be out a good bit today doing the same, as well as picking up one of my children from a summer camp. Tomorrow is my son's B-day. With Sunday being Father's Day, I wouldn't over-examine anyone's slow postings this weekend.

On a personal, game note, how anxious are you to fight again?

[jrdrylie]

Not sure how that really helps. Obviously he is going to say he is good and that we shouldn't send Grizz (who is proven) to fight him.

I'm not saying I'll believe what D-Unit says. I want to here from everybody in the game about their thoughts on D-Unit and then come to a concensus as to whether or not he is good or bad.

[Caddy]

I have been super busy this week helping my wife set up her new classroom. I got back in the other day just in time to vote for BM. I will be out a good bit today doing the same, as well as picking up one of my children from a summer camp. Tomorrow is my son's B-day. With Sunday being Father's Day, I wouldn't over-examine anyone's slow postings this weekend.

On a personal, game note, how anxious are you to fight again?

I call BS CJ. I'm like 95% sure your 'family' is just an elaborate ruse to trick us all in mafia games!

[Grizzlegom]

I'm going to be very active today so I'll add as much as I usually do, just because it's obvious doesn't even make it less true. You didn't even try to refute it.

If you've read the thread then you've seen my defense. I'm done re-hashing it. I'm ready and willing to enter the arena and destroy D-Unit!

[CJSchneider]

I call BS CJ. I'm like 95% sure your 'family' is just an elaborate ruse to trick us all in mafia games!

Want to be FB friends so you can see just how honest I am?

[killxswitch]

Grizz has proven a good fighter and isn't scared to go in again (not that it would matter I guess if he were). If there are three guilds like there were 3 factions in the last game then there is a solid chance that D-Unit is in one of them (especially with the weird pro-Cigaro stuff). So regardless of who wins we have a pretty good chance to knock out another guild member.

[Caddy]

Want to be FB friends so you can see just how honest I am?

Anyone can fake a facebook profile CJ!

[CJSchneider]

Grizz has proven a good fighter and isn't scared to go in again (not that it would matter I guess if he were). If there are three guilds like there were 3 factions in the last game then there is a solid chance that D-Unit is in one of them (especially with the weird pro-Cigaro stuff). So regardless of who wins we have a pretty good chance to knock out another guild member.

You could also use this logic to all but nail down who is guilded at this point, the anomalies being townies.

[CJSchneider]

Anyone can fake a facebook profile CJ!

I'm 38 with a career, a home a wife and 3 kids. If you think I would fake a FB profile for this game, you severely over-estimate how much this game means to me.

[CJSchneider]

Anyone can fake a facebook profile CJ!

Also, I take that as a "no" to FB friends :(

[Bulldogs]

CJ, I think he's using sarcasm.

[Caddy]

I'm 38 with a career, a home a wife and 3 kids. If you think I would fake a FB profile for this game, you severely over-estimate how much this game means to me.

Way to take a joke CJ. Stop being so serious!

[killxswitch]

Srs CJ is srs.

[CJSchneider]

Srs CJ is srs.

What can I say, I have Wilford Brimley in my avy for Pete's sake.

[Grizzlegom]

Maybe we'll get some more candy in here today to get people talking again :-\

There are some eerily quiet players in this game.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

The Battlemaster is here. On DUnit, I felt as if he was the best option at this point in time. The way he's played this game has been remarkably odd, and he seems to be of a faction to me.


Grizz is clearly factioned. I would have no problem voting him in, but we need to get some discussion going first. This day is when we made a lot of progress on in the Gladiator game. (An aside: Can anyone with Skyrim knowledge venture to guess if continually sending Grizz to the arena would lessen his strength/score, ala Cigaro being a weary in his second battle in the Gladiator game?)


As far as the suspicion list that I've compiled thus far:

-Shane, Caddy, Bulldogs, Todd, Rob: This list is mostly due to lack of talk from usually very active players. I know Rob and Caddy already mentioned their activity might be sporadic, but still. I see Caddy and Bulldogs are here today though, which is good, and I'd like to hear more from them.


-SP: It could very well be his play style which continually frustrates the hell out of me, but I'm wary of him.


-Vidae: Something is a bit out of character with his play.


-Killxswitch: My apologies if I've missed it, but his name was been thrown out as a potential Battlemaster with no response by him. Now, your first thought might be: A factioned member would want the throne. However, everyone has this thought. I believe people are trying to shy away from the position early, when the position is under the most scrutiny, in fear that either jockeying for the position, or how they act as BM will give them away. Hence the lack of: "Vote for me!" posts as compared with the Gladiator game.



And now, I have work to do. I shall return in a few hours.

[Caddy]

-Shane, Caddy, Bulldogs, Todd, Rob: This list is mostly due to lack of talk from usually very active players. I know Rob and Caddy already mentioned their activity might be sporadic, but still. I see Caddy and Bulldogs are here today though, which is good, and I'd like to hear more from them.


It's 1am and I'm about to head to bed for my first night of uninterrupted, alarm-free sleep in like four weeks! I will however vote before I leave as I'll probably sleep for like 12 hours. =D

[BeerBaron]

http://i.imgur.com/LTgH8.jpg
WELL HELLO GENTS!

What is this, a tournament! HOW DELIGHFUL! I love tournaments. Especially ones with fish. And cheese! Oh how I do love cheese!

Tournaments make me so happy...why...I could just...tear out your intestines and strangle you with them! BWAHAH!! Wouldn't that be just delightful!!

No? Why the long face? The last time someone had a long face I had them dig a pit...AND FILL IT WITH CLOWNS!! BWAHAHA!!

Perhaps you could help out an old fool. One of my dear friends has gone missing you see. Perhaps invisible...perhaps hiding...perhaps he never even existed at all!! It's so hard to tell these days...

But he has one of my dear treasures...I do so much miss it. I've been searching for it you see. Hard to eat my cheese without it!

So if you would find my friend and my treasure, please let me know.

But enough about that! Time for celebration! CHEESE FOR EVERYONE! Wait...no...scratch that...CHEESE FOR NO ONE! That can be just as much of a celebration if you don't like cheese. But who doesn't like cheese? BWAHAH! Delightful!

Hello darkness my old friend...I've come to talk with you again...and some cheese!

Hey, what do a lizard and a fork have in common? WITHDRAWL INTO DARKNESS!!! BWAHAHAHA! AND THEY CAN'T COMMUNICATE WITH ANYONE!

Bwahaha!!

[Caddy]

1. I hated that quest so much.

2. vote: Grizz

3. Goodnight and to whomever fights in the arena, I wish you an honorable death.

[Grizzlegom]

Maybe Shane is his friend and he can't communicate with anyone because he's a lizard.

[vidae]

Well that was certainly interesting..

And ATL, I dunno how I've played this any differently than any other mafia game. I'm not going to lead the game in posts anymore as I never finished a game doing that, but I'm still here reading everything and trying to help as best as I can.

And if Grizz wants to go back in I'm fine with that. We can use him to kill every guilded member and deal with him later.

vote : Grizz

[ImBrotherCain]

Updated Vote Count:

Grizz (2): Caddy, Vidae

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[CJSchneider]

I'll be gone for a few hours.
Since Grizz wants it.


vote : Grizz

[ImBrotherCain]

Updated Vote Count:

Grizz (3): Caddy, Vidae, CJ

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority
__________________

[killxswitch]

The Battlemaster is here. On DUnit, I felt as if he was the best option at this point in time. The way he's played this game has been remarkably odd, and he seems to be of a faction to me.


Grizz is clearly factioned. I would have no problem voting him in, but we need to get some discussion going first. This day is when we made a lot of progress on in the Gladiator game. (An aside: Can anyone with Skyrim knowledge venture to guess if continually sending Grizz to the arena would lessen his strength/score, ala Cigaro being a weary in his second battle in the Gladiator game?)


As far as the suspicion list that I've compiled thus far:

-Shane, Caddy, Bulldogs, Todd, Rob: This list is mostly due to lack of talk from usually very active players. I know Rob and Caddy already mentioned their activity might be sporadic, but still. I see Caddy and Bulldogs are here today though, which is good, and I'd like to hear more from them.


-SP: It could very well be his play style which continually frustrates the hell out of me, but I'm wary of him.


-Vidae: Something is a bit out of character with his play.


-Killxswitch: My apologies if I've missed it, but his name was been thrown out as a potential Battlemaster with no response by him. Now, your first thought might be: A factioned member would want the throne. However, everyone has this thought. I believe people are trying to shy away from the position early, when the position is under the most scrutiny, in fear that either jockeying for the position, or how they act as BM will give them away. Hence the lack of: "Vote for me!" posts as compared with the Gladiator game.



And now, I have work to do. I shall return in a few hours.

I agree with some of these but I'm surprised you don't list FE or Gonzo as both have been playing suspiciously IMO. I would maybe even add UKFan. Just a note of frenetic, twitchy... something about the way they've played so far. I'll have to look more at their posts to really outline it.

As for me ignoring TH's continued suggestion of me as BM, I have zero interest and have had zero interest since I saw that they are term-limited. Being the BM later on in the game might be advantageous once guildies have outed themselves more. But overall I am happy to let other people screw around with almost no info, making needless enemies early on based on their position. I can even buy Cigaro's contention that he picked Grizz randomly, but him being voted into the arena wasn't a surprise at all. We had nothing else to go on.

Speaking of picking Grizz:

VOTE: Grizzlegromnomnom

As for whether he'll be at full strength I don't know, but in the game there are healing potions. As a fighter he might have some of those, or someone in his guild might be able to gift them to him.

Also, word to the wise that guy BB posted is Sheogorath, the daedric prince of madness. His quests rarely turn out like you'd expect/want.

[Grizzlegom]

Anyone have any thoughts on what Cigaro's role was? Being an apprentice, I'm assuming he had a master. I'm guessing one part of his role might be that he became master upon his master's death. Anyone think he might have had a secondary role?

I wasn't in the gladiator game so I'm just trying to figure out what night actions might be in this game. I'm assuming there are some xShot kills out there, maybe some gifting of weapons/items and such. Maybe some investigating? Just trying to get some discussion going...

[ImBrotherCain]

Updated Vote Count:

Grizz (4): Caddy, Vidae, CJ, Killxswitch

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[jrdrylie]

Anyone have any thoughts on what Cigaro's role was? Being an apprentice, I'm assuming he had a master. I'm guessing one part of his role might be that he became master upon his master's death. Anyone think he might have had a secondary role?

I wasn't in the gladiator game so I'm just trying to figure out what night actions might be in this game. I'm assuming there are some xShot kills out there, maybe some gifting of weapons/items and such. Maybe some investigating? Just trying to get some discussion going...

Well, in the gladiator game, there were people who took place of someone who died but they didn't have any night actions until the assumed the new post of the dead person.

[jrdrylie]

Also, he wants it and a bunch of people seem to trust him so

Vote Grizz

[Grizzlegom]

D-Unit, fall on my sword.

Vote: Grizz

[Bulldogs]

Well, time to find out how powerful D is.

Vote: Grizz

[ncst8fan83]

Alright...at work so I should be able to contribute more today and over the weekend. Trying to get caught up on the happenings of the past couple days.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Sorry guys, I got a job working 8-7 about four times a week just after this began so my activity won't be quite what it usually is. This will probably be my last game for at least a month tbh :(. Anyways, I hate to do this but can someone just give me a quick recap of what's happened so far?

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Grizz (7): Caddy, Vidae, CJ, Killxswitch, JR, Grizz, bulldogs

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[Ngatachance92]

If Grizz is willing to spit into the face of death again who am I to deny him his blood orgy?

Vote:Griz

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Grizz (8): Caddy, Vidae, CJ, Killxswitch, JR, Grizz, bulldogs, ngata

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[Grizzlegom]

Sorry guys, I got a job working 8-7 about four times a week just after this began so my activity won't be quite what it usually is. This will probably be my last game for at least a month tbh :(. Anyways, I hate to do this but can someone just give me a quick recap of what's happened so far?

Cigaro made a theme-based post on the first day that got him 6 votes to become battlemaster. It appears he random-number generated me to send to the arena for the first fight. Overall, the town wasn't too thrilled with his decision and were mostly taken aback by the fact that he got 6 votes, which seemed like a lot for someone that didn't have a guild behind him padding his votes. As such, we sent him to the arena and I took care of him.

We then voted ATL as BM because of his successes in the gladiator game. He chose D-Unit to send to the arena today. Everyone thinks I'm in the warrior guild because of how powerful I am and I'm willingly volunteering myself to slay D-Unit.

[BeerBaron]

http://i.imgur.com/LTgH8.jpg
WELL HELLO GENTS!

What is this, a tournament! HOW DELIGHFUL! I love tournaments. Especially ones with fish. And cheese! Oh how I do love cheese!

Tournaments make me so happy...why...I could just...tear out your intestines and strangle you with them! BWAHAH!! Wouldn't that be just delightful!!

No? Why the long face? The last time someone had a long face I had them dig a pit...AND FILL IT WITH CLOWNS!! BWAHAHA!!

Perhaps you could help out an old fool. One of my dear friends has gone missing you see. Perhaps invisible...perhaps hiding...perhaps he never even existed at all!! It's so hard to tell these days...

But he has one of my dear treasures...I do so much miss it. I've been searching for it you see. Hard to eat my cheese without it!

So if you would find my friend and my treasure, please let me know.

But enough about that! Time for celebration! CHEESE FOR EVERYONE! Wait...no...scratch that...CHEESE FOR NO ONE! That can be just as much of a celebration if you don't like cheese. But who doesn't like cheese? BWAHAH! Delightful!

Hello darkness my old friend...I've come to talk with you again...and some cheese!

Hey, what do a lizard and a fork have in common? WITHDRAWL INTO DARKNESS!!! BWAHAHAHA! AND THEY CAN'T COMMUNICATE WITH ANYONE!

Bwahaha!!

http://i.imgur.com/HXaej.jpg


I do apologize for the master. He can be...difficult.

You see, his friend, the Argonian "Big Head" has run off with my master's prized Fork of Horripilation once again. If you happen to see it, pass it along to me and I'll make sure you are properly rewarded.

[Raiderz4Life]

I been helping restore and apartment and a house and got a June 29th deadline so probably won't be around a whole lot today either....will be here fully tomorrow though. So I'll just cast it now

vote Grizz

[Brothgar]

Well I fully believe that D is factioned. Thus send him in with the giant grizzley!

Vote Grizz

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Grizz (10): Caddy, Vidae, CJ, Killxswitch, JR, Grizz, bulldogs, ngata, R4L, broth

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[ATLDirtyBirds]

And ATL, I dunno how I've played this any differently than any other mafia game. I'm not going to lead the game in posts anymore as I never finished a game doing that, but I'm still here reading everything and trying to help as best as I can.



I believe I recall you said you were considering voting Gonzo for BM. Clearly, you've gone mad. Or evil.

I agree with some of these but I'm surprised you don't list FE or Gonzo as both have been playing suspiciously IMO. I would maybe even add UKFan. Just a note of frenetic, twitchy... something about the way they've played so far. I'll have to look more at their posts to really outline it.


I just looked back on these gentlemen. (As my list was mostly compiled on a quick skim/thoughts from previous)


UK and FlyingElvis don't strike me either way as of now.

On Gonzo, I will say, not nearly as boisterous as he usually is.

Sorry guys, I got a job working 8-7 about four times a week just after this began so my activity won't be quite what it usually is. This will probably be my last game for at least a month tbh :(. Anyways, I hate to do this but can someone just give me a quick recap of what's happened so far?


We had just gotten to the point where you role reveal.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Do we have reason to believe D belongs to a guild and so we're trying to get rid of him? Or are we just trying to get a read on people at this point? If it's the latter I suggest we send someone to the arena who we aren't sure of since we already know Grizz's power level. Of course then we risk pitting two townies up against each other.

[RufusMcDaniel]

Do we have reason to believe D belongs to a guild and so we're trying to get rid of him? Or are we just trying to get a read on people at this point? If it's the latter I suggest we send someone to the arena who we aren't sure of since we already know Grizz's power level. Of course then we risk pitting two townies up against each other.

He is seen as aligned with Cigaro after having posed something after Cigaro was named BM.

[sbh15]

on looking back, have to say I agree with choosing D-Unit. the first thing I noticed was his response to Cigaro and he tried to sort of cover it up/play it off by doing the same type of thing when he voted for TH as battlemaster. See below
Well that does it for me. My son's name is Aden! Spelled differently, but same sound!

Vote: TH


and since it appears Grizz might be a guild member and he wants the votes...

Vote: Grizzlegom

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Hmm I do see that now. Not sure if it's exactly incriminating but it looks like it's the best we've got at this point. Looks like Grizz is a willing fighter anyways.

Vote: Grizz

[ImBrotherCain]

Updated Vote Count:

Grizz (12): Caddy, Vidae, CJ, Killxswitch, JR, Grizz, bulldogs, ngata, R4L, broth, sbh, Todd

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[D-Unit]

Whoa I just woke up! Hold up

[Grizzlegom]

ATL, sorry you can't tell me to fall on my sword. D-Unit should be waking up anytime now, you can tell him to fall on my sword :-)

[D-Unit]

Send me in to fight ATL! If he put me in, I KNOW he's part of an evil faction!

[D-Unit]

I don't think putting Grizz in against me is a good thing. He just fought the other day and his energy will be down. Unless he received some sort of healing power. But anyways, I think he's good and I don't want to fight another good.

[D-Unit]

ATL are you scared to fight me? At least man up for nominating me.

[RufusMcDaniel]

Send me in to fight ATL! If he put me in, I KNOW he's part of an evil faction!

How do you know?

[D-Unit]

How do you know?
It's a hunch. Obviously I don't "know". But I would rather fight him.

[D-Unit]

I told you guys the only reason I voted for Cigaro was because of his impressive write up. If I knew it he was evil, and it would've grouped me together with him, then I wouldn't have given him my vote. Directly after he posted it no less! That obviously was a mistake that I regret.

[D-Unit]

http://i.imgur.com/HXaej.jpg


I do apologize for the master. He can be...difficult.

You see, his friend, the Argonian "Big Head" has run off with my master's prized Fork of Horripilation once again. If you happen to see it, pass it along to me and I'll make sure you are properly rewarded.
Can somebody clarify what the heck BB's posts are all about?

[vidae]

It's another board search for an item I assume. I don't know what the item itself does, but it must be powerful.

[Grizzlegom]

Can somebody clarify what the heck BB's posts are all about?

I was wondering about this as well. I figured he might have hid the fork somewhere around the forums like we've done in past games but I did some quick searches and never found it.

[D-Unit]

It's another board search for an item I assume. I don't know what the item itself does, but it must be powerful.
Ah that's sweet! Like a hidden post on the forum? too cool. too cool!

[Bulldogs]

I was wondering about this as well. I figured he might have hid the fork somewhere around the forums like we've done in past games but I did some quick searches and never found it.

I tried searching his past 20 pages of posts, and did a forum search... nothing.

[Grizzlegom]

Ah that's sweet! Like a hidden post on the forum? too cool. too cool!

When I did it, I added the picture to an old post and told people to go looking for it. He's done it a couple times since then. I found the virus in the zombie game, I don't think anyone ever found the Joker card in the batman game.

[Bulldogs]

When I did it, I added the picture to an old post and told people to go looking for it. He's done it a couple times since then. I found the virus in the zombie game, I don't think anyone ever found the Joker card in the batman game.

I thought SuperMcGee did.

[Grizzlegom]

I thought SuperMcGee did.

You could be right, I wasn't in that game so I didn't follow along overly hard haha

[Bulldogs]

Well BB, after spending like 20 minutes on that search, I give up. Go screw yourself.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Send me in to fight ATL! If he put me in, I KNOW he's part of an evil faction!


You're already in there to fight champ. And great retort. Obviously this makes me evil! Let alone, several other people have agreed you were a solid choice.

ATL are you scared to fight me? At least man up for nominating me.

Where the **** are you getting this?



Oh, and vote: grizz

[BeerBaron]

http://i.imgur.com/LTgH8.jpg
BLAST IT ALL!

I think that damnable lizard went back to the homeland of those wretched Dunmer! So serious....how I hate loathe them!

I'd search there myself but it looks like it's time of tea...tea and MISERY! Bwahahah!

[BeerBaron]

FINAL Vote Count:

Grizz (13): Caddy, Vidae, CJ, Killxswitch, JR, Grizz, bulldogs, ngata, R4L, broth, sbh, Todd, ATL

With 25 alive, 13 is needed for majority

[BeerBaron]

Grizz looked up and down at the Battlemaster's choice in D-Unit. "You are a worthy adversary and I seek to test your mettle!" he grunted.

The town did not offer much resistance to the idea of sending Grizz back into battle. Though the presence of the Mad God searching for his trinket was a little distracting, Grizz was selected unanimously to battle D.

The arena announcer came to announce the combatants. D-Unit, the Battlemaster's choice against Grizzlegom, the town's pick.

The two fighters nodded honorably towards one another before charging. Grizz swung his giant sword in mighty swaths, leaving D-Unit scrambling in defense. He dodged where possible but also took a beating while deflecting the blows.

The crowd was in awe of the spectacle and the cheering for both sides seemed even. D had taken a beating but was still on his feet, still mounting counter attacks where he could. Finally, he slipped up, falling to a knee.

Grizz shook his head and walked towards D, readying a might swing when suddenly, D-Unit leaped back to his feet and grabbed part of the handle of Grizz's sword! D feigned exhaustion to create an opportunity!

Grizz, the more physically imposing of the two, was caught by surprise, allowing D to stop his swing! D-Unit delivered a sharp headbutt to Grizz's face and pulled his sword away!

With the giant claymore now in his own possession, D-Unit turned it on its former master ran him through, right through Grizz's impressive armor.

Grizz grabbed the guard of the blade and pulled it further into himself, bringing his face right up against D-Unit's...

"Thank you for releasing me..." he whispered. D-Unit removed the sword in a sudden motion as Grizz's corpse fell to the arena floor.

D-Unit Defeats Grizz!

Final Score:
D-Unit - 410
Grizz - 369

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r208/ImBrotherCain/Elder%20Scrolls%20Mafia/22-Umbra.jpg
Grizz - Umbra - Death Seeker - Has been Killed.
His win condition was to be defeated in the arena. No small task for such a great warrior, but Grizz has achieved victory!

Night 3 has begun. Please send your actions to BOTH myself and Cain.

[BeerBaron]

http://i.imgur.com/LTgH8.jpg
DELIGHTFUL!

Ho ho, ho ho? HO HO! What is this! Someone found my fork? MY FORK! MY FORK!!!! DELIGHTFUL!

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1115611&highlight=Morrowind#post1115611

Simply deligh...oh blast it all.

It's not the fork that I wanted at all. But you shall use the fork! YES! USE IT! I hereby GIVE you the fork!

Go and bury it into the skull of that blasted Giant Bull Netch! He is hiding around here...somewhere...I'm sure of....

Oh well. Go and kill that netch with the fork. Then, I'll trade you something really useful for that old trinket! HAPPY HUNTING! BWAHAHAH!!!

[BeerBaron]

Grizz's body had been removed from the battle arena and the sand was raked.

Carrion birds flew overhead, hopeful of another meal to come today.

ATL, on Day 2 of his first term, gave his selection to the arena announcer:

http://i.imgur.com/nKcLw.jpg

Battlemaster's Pick: Shane P. Hallam

Who would the town choose as his opponent?

Day 4 has begun! With 24 remaining, 13 are needed for majority.

[Ngatachance92]

Are you kidding me? 4 days in and not one night death? Is the arena the only way to get taken out in this game?

[Wootylicous]

Seems so...I wonder who found that fork and what can be done with it

[Brothgar]

Seems so...I wonder who found that fork and what can be done with it

Right now it seems that he who has the fork must kill something with it.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Well, I guess when I finally get time and get back, I gotta fight?

Vote: Gonzo

Come on, you all know since our epic argument that you want to see me and Gonzo fight it out. Now is that time. I want Gonzo 1 on 1. He has been sneaky, he is obviously in a faction. Is there anyone better for me to duel?

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Gonzo (1) - Shane

With 24 alive, 13 are needed for majority.

[Wootylicous]

http://cdn.styleforum.net/3/34/345fbdd4_Stephen-Colbert-Popcorn.gif

[Shane P. Hallam]

Also, ATL is in a faction. That is all.

[Ngatachance92]

I can't argue with that Shane. It's only fitting that instead of the way you guys usually go at it with words that you settle this in arena.

Vote:Gonzo PhD.

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Gonzo (2) - Shane, ngata

With 24 alive, 13 are needed for majority.

[Shane P. Hallam]

I can't argue with that Shane. It's only fitting that instead of the way you guys usually go at it with words that you settle this in arena.

Vote:Gonzo PhD.

Whoever dies, it will be an epic battle for sure.

[UKfan]

Also, ATL is in a faction. That is all.

This come from an investigation or just from reading his posts? If it is 100% proven, why not throw him into battle?

[Shane P. Hallam]

This come from an investigation or just from reading his posts? If it is 100% proven, why not throw him into battle?

This comes from me being me my friend. I don't want to fight him. I want Gonzo. I'm sure ATL's faction won't let him be thrown into battle.

[UKfan]

This comes from me being me my friend. I don't want to fight him. I want Gonzo. I'm sure ATL's faction won't let him be thrown into battle.

Seems odd that you "know" he is factioned, are willing to volunteer that information and yet will not fight him. I am not sure what to read into it.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Seems odd that you "know" he is factioned, are willing to volunteer that information and yet will not fight him. I am not sure what to read into it.

I'll fight him, not my first choice though. I just know his faction won't let him go to the arena. They are too powerful at this point.

Don't read anything into it :) Tis the nice thing about being put up for the arena, I don't have to give anyone anything :D

[UKfan]

I'll fight him, not my first choice though. I just know his faction won't let him go to the arena. They are too powerful at this point.

Don't read anything into it :) Tis the nice thing about being put up for the arena, I don't have to give anyone anything :D

Ok that makes more sense, I was under the impression that you flat out didn't want to fight him first time out so thanks for elaborating.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Managed to get the weekend off so I should be more active. Tomorrow I'll be busy what with it being Father's Day and a huge day of Euro group play going on but I'm here today!

[vidae]

That is an odd choice to send into the arena.. I guess it could be because he was laying low and all, but that still strikes me as weird.

If you want Gonzo you got him Shane.

vote : Gonzo

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Eh I'm leery of sending two guys in who could both be town aligned at this point. Sending Shane up against someone we believe to be factioned is likely to result in his death though since they'll almost certainly overpower him. I want to hear ATL's explanation for choosing Shane. I haven't been active enough and neither has Shane for me to be able to get a read on him but at this point nothing really points towards him being the logical choice. I feel like ATL could be factioned and this is an attempt to eliminate a strong player early.

[Raiderz4Life]

I will ne here today...finally. Shane and Gonzo was destined to happened at some point...just seems too logical for it to not happen

vote Gonzo

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Gonzo (4) - Shane, ngata, vidae, R4L

With 24 alive, 13 are needed for majority.

[Dr. Gonzo]

No surprise who has voted me to fight so far. Shane will kill me in the arena and he knows it. If you think I am evil and want me dead so be it but Shane is just trying to pick on someone he knows is weak. At this point either we send in someone who is evil or even better I think we send in D to take care of Shane who is pretty obviously evil.

[UKfan]

Well I am going to vote for the person who has been outed as being factioned thus far, seems a more sensible play to me right now.

Vote: ATL

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Gonzo (4) - Shane, ngata, vidae, R4L
ATL (1) - UKFan

With 24 alive, 13 are needed for majority.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Well I am going to vote for the person who has been outed as being factioned thus far, seems a more sensible play to me right now.

Vote: ATL

I would not be surprised at all if he is factioned but I would not believe everything Shane says because I think Shane is factioned too. I would like to hear more from Shane about his claim.

[Shane P. Hallam]

No surprise who has voted me to fight so far. Shane will kill me in the arena and he knows it. If you think I am evil and want me dead so be it but Shane is just trying to pick on someone he knows is weak. At this point either we send in someone who is evil or even better I think we send in D to take care of Shane who is pretty obviously evil.

You are weak?

[D-Unit]

After what went down yesterday, I was sure ATL would start to get some votes.

This comes from me being me my friend. I don't want to fight him. I want Gonzo. I'm sure ATL's faction won't let him be thrown into battle.

But this is pretty damn incriminating right here. If ATL is part of a faction that is THAT strong (and we saw how quickly Grizz was nominated to fight) and we saw how quickly ATL got the votes to become BM... then I want to see him test his mettle.

vote: ATL

[Dr. Gonzo]

You are weak?

That I am good sir. Unfortunately. If I were strong you better believe I would be all over fighting you. Do you really think I would shy away if there was even a chance I could beat you?

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Gonzo (4) - Shane, ngata, vidae, R4L
ATL (2) - UKFan, D-Unit

With 24 alive, 13 are needed for majority.

[FlyingElvis]

Tough weekend for me unless the activity is in the evening, but I definitely want to see more info on all of this. ATL outlined his thoughts on a few players and then throws a complete curveball with his selection . . . interesting. I understand the strategy of not sending someone you mentioned and all, but this is odd.

lol @ Shane v. Gonzo, though. I like the idea, but am really curious if there's any merit to Shane's accusations.

Let's hear some more, Mr. Bond. And you, ATL.

[Dr. Gonzo]

You know what, I want to hear more from ATL. For now I will cast my vote but I will be around to change it if need be.

Vote: ATL

I liked making ATL battlemaster because I knew we would find out sooner rather than later if he was factioned. Like I said not going to trust Shane completely but I did start to get a bad feeling about ATL after I read back all of yesterdays comments. R4L trying to jump on the vote me bandwagon is so classic evil R4L it is just kind of funny to me so I will be keeping my eye on him. I also think after reading everything something is up with Vidae.

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Gonzo (4) - Shane, ngata, vidae, R4L
ATL (3) - UKFan, D-Unit, Gonzo

With 24 alive, 13 are needed for majority.

[jrdrylie]

I like the choice of Gonzo. He has played quite differently this game. He isn't accusing three different people a page. If Shane wants him, he gets him.

Vote Gonzo

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Vote: ATL

......

[Dr. Gonzo]

I like the choice of Gonzo. He has played quite differently this game. He isn't accusing three different people a page. If Shane wants him, he gets him.

Vote Gonzo

This is why I feel I can never leave. I am gone ONE day. One damn day haha and I am accused of not being aggressive enough. How can I be aggressive when I can't post? You ******* bastards. One more thought, maybe Shane was right about ATL having the numbers which I why I was kind of worried about voting ATL because if it is me and him and he has 4 faction teammates I am likely ******.

[vidae]

You know what, I want to hear more from ATL. For now I will cast my vote but I will be around to change it if need be.

Vote: ATL

I liked making ATL battlemaster because I knew we would find out sooner rather than later if he was factioned. Like I said not going to trust Shane completely but I did start to get a bad feeling about ATL after I read back all of yesterdays comments. R4L trying to jump on the vote me bandwagon is so classic evil R4L it is just kind of funny to me so I will be keeping my eye on him. I also think after reading everything something is up with Vidae.

Nothing is "up" with me, I just think this would be a humorous battle.

[sbh15]

being weak and not trusting Shane is not really evidence that you aren't a member of a faction. I don't care if you score a zero in the arena if you're in a guild. It's still one less guild member. until there's any more worthwhile evidence...

vote: Gonzo

[Dr. Gonzo]

Nothing is "up" with me, I just think this would be a humorous battle.

This is why I don't trust you. Maybe think about making sure a faction member dies rather than setting up a humorous battle if you want to be trusted. Like I said, if you think I am evil, send me to be killed but don't do it because it will be funny.

Shane sitting back and refusing to give any more info about ATL is exactly what he did in the last game he was evil. Something to think about.

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Gonzo (6) - Shane, ngata, vidae, R4L, JR, SBH
ATL (4) - UKFan, D-Unit, Gonzo, Todd

With 24 alive, 13 are needed for majority.

[Dr. Gonzo]

being weak and not trusting Shane is not really evidence that you aren't a member of a faction. I don't care if you score a zero in the arena if you're in a guild. It's still one less guild member. until there's any more worthwhile evidence...

vote: Gonzo

Okay so you believe I am evil. Why? Also, way to try and draw out investigators there.

[vidae]

You're not in the arena yet so I wouldn't worry so much right now. We still need to hear something concrete from Shane (sorry, the stuff you posted doesn't mean anything yet Shane) and from ATL before we actually pick someone to send in.

You're not dead yet.

[Dr. Gonzo]

You're not in the arena yet so I wouldn't worry so much right now. We still need to hear something concrete from Shane (sorry, the stuff you posted doesn't mean anything yet Shane) and from ATL before we actually pick someone to send in.

You're not dead yet.

I agree with this. I am not too worried because I think cooler heads will prevail but as you can see people will send votes my way to ensure a quick day it seems. ****, there are too many faction members and it appears this game they are playing smarter than last game. Shane is quite because he knows I am weak now so he is really hoping for the match up. Ugh.

[Wootylicous]

I fail to see how Shane actually bring any hard evidence against gonzo or ATL.

[Ngatachance92]

I question is there are even investigators in this game. So far it seems we have been going off of voting and previous grudges.

[FlyingElvis]

You're not in the arena yet so I wouldn't worry so much right now. We still need to hear something concrete from Shane (sorry, the stuff you posted doesn't mean anything yet Shane) and from ATL before we actually pick someone to send in.

You're not dead yet.

You're winning me over. I always feel like you're evil but you've been pretty level headed so far. Maybe that's just well played as a Guildy, but I'm slowing starting to buy it. Don't you break my heart, Vidae.

I'm far more suspicious of ATL, but I do recall Gonzo coming out of hiding when Grizz voted to fight him and claiming he could fight. Now he's certain he's going to die to Shane?

Off to find that. brb.

[D-Unit]

I tried to tell the town not to face me against Grizz.

I don't think putting Grizz in against me is a good thing. He just fought the other day and his energy will be down. Unless he received some sort of healing power. But anyways, I think he's good and I don't want to fight another good.

In the end, Umbra seems like a neutral character, but I didn't know that. I just thought that ATL should've been put in there to at least face the guy he nominated. I tried to make a case for it, but with Shane's new info, I'm starting to see why my case for ATL wasn't gonna be heard.

The fact that ATL killed any chance for a conversation to expand on him going into the arena yesterday with his abrupt vote on Grizz (which closed the vote), showed me that he was hiding something and didn't want anymore conversation to carry on about him going into the arena.

[Ngatachance92]

I really want to fix that typo..

[FlyingElvis]

Well not sure why I am being voted for. Love the odds reason. I was good twice in a row so I must be evil. Never mind that the odds I am evil are the same every game. I assure you all I am good. I will step up to battle but now is not the time.

Ok, nevermind. Sorry Gonzo. This note about stepping up to battle is what I was thinking about. I combined this with your post below about helping the town later and was thinking you were claiming battle skills.

I mean not really. Right now I am thinking you are a faction member who is strong and I will get destroyed. I kind of don't want to die this early when I know I can be a big help later on. If people want to vote for me to fight based on nothing so be it but at this point we need to get people talking and go from there.

[vidae]

Curious though, what does "now is not the time" mean? Do you get stronger in power the longer you don't fight, or?

[sbh15]

Okay so you believe I am evil. Why? Also, way to try and draw out investigators there.

not really, but you're playing this "I'm weak, that's why he wants to fight me," but what does that prove? and how does he know you're weak? I just want some answers.

by all means, I will change my vote if there's a better candidate.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

This come from an investigation or just from reading his posts? If it is 100% proven, why not throw him into battle?


Hmm. Two people have said I'm in a faction with no evidence. And what a surprise! It's the two people I've chosen to send to the arena!

Eh I'm leery of sending two guys in who could both be town aligned at this point. Sending Shane up against someone we believe to be factioned is likely to result in his death though since they'll almost certainly overpower him. I want to hear ATL's explanation for choosing Shane. I haven't been active enough and neither has Shane for me to be able to get a read on him but at this point nothing really points towards him being the logical choice. I feel like ATL could be factioned and this is an attempt to eliminate a strong player early.

Who would your choice have been sir? Before today, Shane had not made a single post. The single least active member of the game (Rob being the only other). Yet he still remains in the game, when BB is usually very proactive in eliminating inactives. I know Rob was very open about the fact that he'd be very inactive in this game, but I do not recall the same from JBond. I tend to believe he is acting at night, and has been laying low to try and avoid the target he always has on his back.

Tough weekend for me unless the activity is in the evening, but I definitely want to see more info on all of this. ATL outlined his thoughts on a few players and then throws a complete curveball with his selection . . . interesting. I understand the strategy of not sending someone you mentioned and all, but this is odd.

lol @ Shane v. Gonzo, though. I like the idea, but am really curious if there's any merit to Shane's accusations.

Let's hear some more, Mr. Bond. And you, ATL.

JBond was on that list. I could have made another choice, sure, but I was not about to let someone I believe to have been performing night actions (most likely for evil) under the radar. I'm fine with sending Gonzo in, because after killswitch pointed out his play to me, I think he might be evil. The rest of my list are also viable candidates.

[D-Unit]

I fail to see how Shane actually bring any hard evidence against gonzo or ATL.
Even without evidence, to say something like that is very bold in this game. It puts a huge target on his back and a huge target on ATL's back + the faction he's with. From now on, ATL and his faction will be trying to shut Shane up at all costs before more info is revealed.

Wouldn't it be better for Shane to withhold evidence? If he came out saying he had some for sure, then he would be a major target. If he didn't, then maybe folks just think he's full of it... which would let him get by more.

Then again, he may just die in the arena. It'll be an interesting play to see what Shane decides to do.

[FlyingElvis]

Curious though, what does "now is not the time" mean? Do you get stronger in power the longer you don't fight, or?

I still think he's sketchy. I just don't want it to be based on weak logic. That was fun on day one (ish) but is the type of stuff that only helps the Guilds in the long run.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Curious though, what does "now is not the time" mean? Do you get stronger in power the longer you don't fight, or?

I do not get stronger. I just kind of did not want to seem like I was being a *****. I may stand a chance against some people but from the sounds of it my powers are weak. Judging by how strong people are and how strong I think Shane is I would get demolished.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Even without evidence, to say something like that is very bold in this game. It puts a huge target on his back and a huge target on ATL's back + the faction he's with. From now on, ATL and his faction will be trying to shut Shane up at all costs before more info is revealed.

Wouldn't it be better for Shane to withhold evidence? If he came out saying he had some for sure, then he would be a major target. If he didn't, then maybe folks just think he's full of it... which would let him get by more.

Then again, he may just die in the arena. It'll be an interesting play to see what Shane decides to do.

Well he kind of is with holding information. He will not elaborate on ATL being evil. It also seems like now that it looks like he will fight me he is fine not talking and letting ATL off the hook for now so he gets an easy kill in me.

[FlyingElvis]

Hmm. Two people have said I'm in a faction with no evidence. And what a surprise! It's the two people I've chosen to send to the arena!



Who would your choice have been sir? Before today, Shane had not made a single post. The single least active member of the game (Rob being the only other). Yet he still remains in the game, when BB is usually very proactive in eliminating inactives. I know Rob was very open about the fact that he'd be very inactive in this game, but I do not recall the same from JBond. I tend to believe he is acting at night, and has been laying low to try and avoid the target he always has on his back.



JBond was on that list. I could have made another choice, sure, but I was not about to let someone I believe to have been performing night actions (most likely for evil) under the radar. I'm fine with sending Gonzo in, because after killswitch pointed out his play to me, I think he might be evil. The rest of my list are also viable candidates.
I was referring to the post below but, after looking back, I found the first one - also below.

I believe I recall you said you were considering voting Gonzo for BM. Clearly, you've gone mad. Or evil.



I just looked back on these gentlemen. (As my list was mostly compiled on a quick skim/thoughts from previous)


UK and FlyingElvis don't strike me either way as of now.

On Gonzo, I will say, not nearly as boisterous as he usually is.




We had just gotten to the point where you role reveal.

The Battlemaster is here. On DUnit, I felt as if he was the best option at this point in time. The way he's played this game has been remarkably odd, and he seems to be of a faction to me.


Grizz is clearly factioned. I would have no problem voting him in, but we need to get some discussion going first. This day is when we made a lot of progress on in the Gladiator game. (An aside: Can anyone with Skyrim knowledge venture to guess if continually sending Grizz to the arena would lessen his strength/score, ala Cigaro being a weary in his second battle in the Gladiator game?)


As far as the suspicion list that I've compiled thus far:

-Shane, Caddy, Bulldogs, Todd, Rob: This list is mostly due to lack of talk from usually very active players. I know Rob and Caddy already mentioned their activity might be sporadic, but still. I see Caddy and Bulldogs are here today though, which is good, and I'd like to hear more from them.


-SP: It could very well be his play style which continually frustrates the hell out of me, but I'm wary of him.


-Vidae: Something is a bit out of character with his play.


-Killxswitch: My apologies if I've missed it, but his name was been thrown out as a potential Battlemaster with no response by him. Now, your first thought might be: A factioned member would want the throne. However, everyone has this thought. I believe people are trying to shy away from the position early, when the position is under the most scrutiny, in fear that either jockeying for the position, or how they act as BM will give them away. Hence the lack of: "Vote for me!" posts as compared with the Gladiator game.



And now, I have work to do. I shall return in a few hours.

[BeerBaron]

Updated Vote Count:

Gonzo (6) - Shane, ngata, vidae, R4L, JR, SBH
ATL (4) - UKFan, D-Unit, Gonzo, Todd

With 24 alive, 13 are needed for majority.

Stepping out for a while. Cain is also busy. If we get enough votes, please lock the thread.

[Raiderz4Life]

You know what, I want to hear more from ATL. For now I will cast my vote but I will be around to change it if need be.

Vote: ATL

I liked making ATL battlemaster because I knew we would find out sooner rather than later if he was factioned. Like I said not going to trust Shane completely but I did start to get a bad feeling about ATL after I read back all of yesterdays comments.[b] R4L trying to jump on the vote me bandwagon is so classic evil R4L it is just kind of funny to me so I will be keeping my eye on him. I also think after reading everything something is up with Vidae.

Saw that one coming...no surprise there...vote for him...you're evil lol

[TitanHope]

If we put somebody back into the arena, then I think I'd prefer it to be D, honestly. From the write-up and him feigning exhaustion to get the upper hand, it just sounds like a Thieves Guild maneuver that no respectable warrior would ever pull. Don't know if I want to run the risk of an investigator being killed though, but if Shane really does have investigative abilities, then maybe that means he's strong enough to defeat D? And I guess just because he can root out guild members doesn't necessarily mean he still can't be in a guild. *shrug*

Also, Shane has been absent from posting all this time, but if he has a power that let him investigate to see if a person is a guildy, then it means he's been around the forums enough to get his night action in but has, for whatever reason, refused to post in the actual thread. Why is that?

As for the Gonzo and ATL stuff... ATL picking Shane isn't terribly surprising. He listed him yesterday in his suspicions list due to Shane's inactivity. Tough to know if Shane's info is true, or even accurate since ATL has a big target on him as Battlemaster. Gonzo says he's weak, which begs the question, why would a weak fighter be summoned to an ultimate gathering of fighters?

[Dr. Gonzo]

not really, but you're playing this "I'm weak, that's why he wants to fight me," but what does that prove? and how does he know you're weak? I just want some answers.

by all means, I will change my vote if there's a better candidate.

So you will vote with the majority if everyone's minds change is what you are saying. Way to take a stand. I really cannot prove I am good. I have dropped hints here and there but I can't quote my PM. The only thing that would save me is an investigator but I doubt anybody wants to reveal themselves as that after what happened last time. I just find it kind of funny that Shane who I am fairly sure is evil calls me out and may get his wish. I am thinking his team investigated me and know I am weak.

[FlyingElvis]

You guys suck. And I'm clearly getting worse at this game. :freakout:


Not sold on either guy and it certainly looks like the trains have left the station and we'll see either ATL or Gonzo in the arena.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Saw that one coming...no surprise there...vote for him...you're evil lol

Classic R4L. Claiming I am evil every game. I like how there is no doubt in your mind too haha. See when you are evil you are obvious and when you are good you are no help at all to the town. Disappointing.

[D-Unit]

ATL why did you vote to put Shane in? As BM, how were you thinking that this would best serve the town?

[Dr. Gonzo]

You guys suck. And I'm clearly getting worse at this game. :freakout:


Not sold on either guy and it certainly looks like the trains have left the station and we'll see either ATL or Gonzo in the arena.

I really don't think they have. The day is still young but it does seem like people want days over as soon as they begin.

My thinking now is votes for me will be coming from two sets of people, Shanes faction because they know I am weak and ATL's faction because they don't want him to fight Shane.

It is all kind of frustrating because I am indeed good and being good and not masoned means I have nobody to back me up. If I go to the arena I die and the town learns nothing. A few people have struck me as seeming evil just based on awful reasoning but I just don't feel like being called out by every person I claim is evil because they will just claim I am saying it because they voted for me.

ATL is laying back now and not doing what he would do if he were good and battlemaster so I am pretty confident I am right about both him and Shane being evil.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Also, are we just ignoring the fact that I was probably right about DUnit?

Look at Grizz's death:

His win condition was to be defeated in the arena. No small task for such a great warrior, but Grizz has achieved victory!


Yeah, I'm sure D's not a highly powered faction member.


Edit: And now I see TH took note of it. At least someone did.