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Shane P. Hallam
06-20-2012, 11:44 PM
Sesame Street MAFIA
Sesame Street is in trouble! After a break-in to Mr. Hooper’s shop by local monsters, Mr. Hooper stopped selling to any monster on Sesame Street. Some of the younger monsters were causing trouble in the schools as well, so they were banned from schools and laws were made to stop the monsters of Sesame Street from mixing with humans and others on Sesame Street.
Due to this, monster began taking it upon themselves to wreck Sesame Street. First, Luis and Gabi Rodriguez were found stabbed to death in their home. After thorough investigation and the jailing of a few monsters, many felt the violence would stop. But it did not. Soon, Miles Robinson found himself surrounded by monsters and he has since disappeared. This is the final known photo of him:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GnzSDOaQhY8/SzALjkriAnI/AAAAAAAAAts/maW0gHlP240/s400/Olamide-faison-Sesame+Street.jpg

Sesame Street has come together, even bringing in outsiders to help them out in finding these monsters. They are going to meet every day and lynch a person they feel is a monster! Hopefully, they will find Miles at the end of the journey.

REMAINING PLAYERS:


Grizz


Day 1 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3037955&#post3037955) - CJSchneider - Maria Rodriguez (1 Shot Vigilante) - Lynched
Night 1 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3038198&#post3038198) - Caddy - Betty Lou (Watcher) - Killed
Day 2 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3039230&#post3039230) - TBW - Slimey (Finder) - Lynched
Night 2 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3039500&#post3039500) - SuperMcGee - Kermit (Investigator) - Killed
Day 3 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3040706&#post3040706) - Dr. Gonzo - Cookie Monster (Ninja) - Lynched
Night 3 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3041311&#post3041311) - Cigaro - Count (Counter) - Killed
Night 3 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3041311&#post3041311) - ImBrotherCain - Snuffy (Tracker) - Killed
Night 3 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3041311&#post3041311) - D-Unit - Guy Smiley (Gameshow Host) - Modkilled
Day 4 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3041604&#post3041604) - Forenci - Telly Monster (Roleblocker) - Lynched
Night 4 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3041866&#post3041866) - Fenikz - Bert (Mason Twin) Killed
Night 4 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3041866&#post3041866) - Bulldogs - Ernie (Mason Twin) - Twin Death
Night 3 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3041866&#post3041866) - Tha Wootster - Oscar (Trash Collector) - Killed
Day 5 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3042139&#post3042139) - CashMoneyDrew - Grover (Back-up) - Lynched
Night 5 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3042164&#post3042164) - sbh - Gordon (Doctor) - Killed
Night 5 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3042164&#post3042164) - vidae - Susan (Hooker) - Killed
Day 6 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3042305&#post3042305) - Broth - Don Music (Lyricist) - Killed
Night 6 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3042314&#post3042314) - Rufus - Zoe (Framer) - Killed
Night 6 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3042314&#post3042314) - SuperPacker - Mr. Hooper (1X Gifter) - Killed
Finale (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3042353&#post3042353)
Final Thoughts (http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3042355&#post3042355)

With 3 players remaining, 2 votes are needed for a majority

How to play

During the day, the objective is to find the culprit of the previous nights' misdeeds. The important thing at the beginning of the game is just to get the discussion going, whether it is by accusing another player, mourning the departed, proclaiming your innocence and whatnot is your choice, but good participation is what makes this game fun. At the end of the day, a lynching is made based on a vote count. It is also possible to vote in favor of a no-lynch day. The day ends once a voting majority or a time limit has been reached.

At nightfall, everyone goes to sleep, though mafia and sometimes other roles with special abilities are required to take action. Monsters meet and elect someone to kill. An investigator, for example, could investigate someone and determine whether he is good or evil. Actions to be taken are to be sent by private message. The night ends once every PM has been received or time limit has been reached.

Rules

1. To make it easier for everyone to follow, votes must be bolded and follow the form vote : Shane.

2. Players can unvote or change their vote anytime using the same form. Before changing votes, please unvote first. ex: unvote : Shane, vote : no-lynch

3. Players are to be lynched once an absolute majority is reached.

4. Night actions will have a 24-hour deadline, but please be faster. There be a maximum of 36 hours for day events.

5. Discussion about the game are forbidden outside of the game thread. I can't always monitor that, but for the sake of fair game, please refrain.

6. Mafia can only discuss strategy at night.

7. It is forbidden to quote a private message from the moderator. This results in a modkill.

8. Once you are dead, please refrain from posting information/comments until the game is over. Please do not contact other members either

9. Mod posts will be in green, so don't use that color.

10. Do NOT use names of ANY characters in the thread. There is only one role allowed to do this. Anyone who references a character from the show that isn’t in a joking manner will have it deleted and may have harsher penalties if they continue. You cannot identify yourself by character but feel free to role claim.

11. Have Fun

Shane P. Hallam
06-20-2012, 11:44 PM
Please read the rules before you begin specifically Rule 10 is different.

Caddy
06-20-2012, 11:45 PM
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/063/f/3/elmo___didn__t_read_lol_by_bleydthepirate-d4rra51.gif

Dr. Gonzo
06-20-2012, 11:46 PM
**** just got real.

sbh15
06-20-2012, 11:49 PM
niggas please

Cigaro
06-20-2012, 11:50 PM
Two people stabbed to death, another missing? Sesame Street has turned hood.

Caddy
06-20-2012, 11:51 PM
And everyone thought that little red ****** could be trusted. I should have known he enjoyed stabbing people.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 12:02 AM
Not Luis and Gabi!

Rule 10 should be inter.esting

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 12:13 AM
"I'm so excited and I just can't hide it
I'm about to lose control and I think I like it"

SuperMcGee
06-21-2012, 12:13 AM
If a certain store owner dies in this game, I'll be of little use as I will be crying for a week.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 12:14 AM
"I'm so excited and I just can't hide it
I'm about to lose control and I think I like it"

Don't make me start getting suspicious of you.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 12:15 AM
Don't make me start getting suspicious of you.

"Do you really want to hurt me? Do you really want to make me cry?"

Caddy
06-21-2012, 12:18 AM
Reveal Yourself Broth!

CashmoneyDrew
06-21-2012, 12:23 AM
Bert and Ernie touch each other at night.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 12:23 AM
Reveal Yourself Broth!

"Aww naw hell naw boy Y'all gone up and done it"

Caddy
06-21-2012, 12:26 AM
Broth if you keep doing that I will start a lynch train.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 12:26 AM
What's with all the singing, broth?

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 12:31 AM
What's with all the singing, broth?

"If you don't know me by now you will never never never know me."

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 12:32 AM
Four different posts with song lyrics, I tend to think this is for a reason.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 12:35 AM
Four different posts with song lyrics, I tend to think this is for a reason.

"There was a farmer who had a dog and bingo was his name-o B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O B-I-N-G-O and Bingo was his name-o"

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 12:37 AM
Four different posts with song lyrics, I tend to think this is for a reason.

Now 5. Intriguing to be sure. Any way you can send us clues about this broth? Anything we can do to help you talk normal?

Caddy
06-21-2012, 12:38 AM
vote: broth

SuperMcGee
06-21-2012, 12:42 AM
Let the man sing, I say.

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 12:42 AM
vote: broth

Why the vote for broth? When I stated that I assumed his then four song lyric posts were being made in that fashion for a reason, he responded with bingo. I can honestly say I don't remember too much about Sesame Street, but I'd guess there is a character who matches such a role requirement.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 12:43 AM
vote: broth

"Bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do whatcha gonna do when they come for you"

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 12:45 AM
Now 5. Intriguing to be sure. Any way you can send us clues about this broth? Anything we can do to help you talk normal?

"When you got a backache
A little rubbin' 'll see you through
When you got a heartache
There ain't nothin' you can do

There ain't nothin' you can do
There ain't nothin' you can do
"

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 12:49 AM
..., but I'd guess there is a character who matches such a role requirement.

It's almost 1 AM and I am on pain meds, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 12:50 AM
"When you got a backache
A little rubbin' 'll see you through
When you got a heartache
There ain't nothin' you can do

There ain't nothin' you can do
There ain't nothin' you can do
"

Do you take requests?

Caddy
06-21-2012, 12:52 AM
Why the vote for broth? When I stated that I assumed his then four song lyric posts were being made in that fashion for a reason, he responded with bingo. I can honestly say I don't remember too much about Sesame Street, but I'd guess there is a character who matches such a role requirement.

1. I warned him
2. It's annoying
3. It's Broth =D

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 12:53 AM
Broth, is there a special message you have for us?

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 01:03 AM
Do you take requests?

" None so what chu talkin bout? None bet I know what chu talkin bout? None so what chu talkin bout? None "

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 01:13 AM
Broth, is there a special message you have for us?

" None so what chu talkin bout? None bet I know what chu talkin bout? None so what chu talkin bout? None "

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 01:16 AM
1. I warned him
2. It's annoying
3. It's Broth =D

"He did the mash, he did the monster mash
The monster mash, it was a graveyard smash
He did the mash, it caught on in a flash
He did the mash, he did the monster mash"

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 01:26 AM
I want to keep him around. I just need to think up how we can make this fun.

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 01:34 AM
I want to keep him around. I just need to think up how we can make this fun.

Day one is admittedly nothing more than a crapshoot, but I find it unlikely that any character forced to sing would be mafia, and at least I find it entertaining.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 01:45 AM
Day one is admittedly nothing more than a crapshoot, but I find it unlikely that any character forced to sing would be mafia, and at least I find it entertaining.

"Johnny B. Goode"

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 05:52 AM
Admittedly, Broth is annoying me right now, but I kind of doubt an evil character would be forced to do something to draw that kind of attention.

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 06:22 AM
But if he's gonna do this for the next 5 days, it's going to get unbelievably annoying. And if he can't speak, he's of no help to the town.

Anyway, i've got an exam in 1 hour.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 06:34 AM
I would also like to point out that according to the rules of this game, a "no lynch" is allowed on day 1.

Caddy
06-21-2012, 06:49 AM
I'd rather just boot an 'inactive' than no lynch to be honest.

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 07:20 AM
The thread has only been open for about 8 overnight (for most people) hours, so I'd much prefer to give everyone a little more time before going hard after an inactive.

Caddy
06-21-2012, 07:22 AM
Reveal Yourself BB!

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 07:24 AM
No, how about you reveal for even asking?

Caddy
06-21-2012, 07:29 AM
No, how about you reveal for even asking?

I will if you do.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 07:29 AM
Reveal Yourself BB!


"Reveal yourself!
Reveal yourself!
Reveal yourself!
Reveal yourself!"

ZiTAQNYBBcs

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 07:31 AM
Pass. I'm with ATL on this one in that I think it cheapens the game. Plus the last time we played the day 1 role game Caddy, things ended badly for you.

And dammit Broth, you are going to be very annoying.

Caddy
06-21-2012, 07:32 AM
Pass. I'm with ATL on this one in that I think it cheapens the game. Plus the last time we played the day 1 role game Caddy, things ended badly for you.

And dammit Broth, you are going to be very annoying.

You mean they ended up hilariously for me.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 07:39 AM
And dammit Broth, you are going to be very annoying.

Knowing Shane, I think he got off easy. I'm surprised he wasn't forced to use only the lyrics from show tunes...which would have been HILARIOUS!!!!!

ImBrotherCain
06-21-2012, 07:44 AM
Times up lets do this


LEEEERRRROOOYYY JEEEENNNNKKKIINNNNSSS

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 07:46 AM
I'm here but will be more active once the Elder Scrolls game is over.

Caddy
06-21-2012, 07:49 AM
I've heard that one before...

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 07:51 AM
I've heard that one before...

Not from me you haven't!

RufusMcDaniel
06-21-2012, 07:51 AM
Oh my GOD....broth is a karaoke machine.

ImBrotherCain
06-21-2012, 07:52 AM
I've heard that one before...

I like you more out of Mafia games you know that... You're just a meanie in here.

Caddy
06-21-2012, 07:53 AM
Not from me you haven't!

It's an evil mafia cop out!

Caddy
06-21-2012, 07:53 AM
I like you more out of Mafia games you know that... You're just a meanie in here.

Being the nice guy is no fun.

REVEAL YOURSELF CAIN

sbh15
06-21-2012, 07:59 AM
Broth must be some kind of jester... I wonder what his win condition is

ImBrotherCain
06-21-2012, 08:00 AM
Being the nice guy is no fun.

REVEAL YOURSELF CAIN

I am your former lover! I Am Jack's Broken Heart :-(

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 08:02 AM
Broth must be some kind of jester... I wonder what his win condition is

A standard jester would just be to get lynched. He's annoying but ignorable for now.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 08:02 AM
I am your former lover! I Am Jack's Broken Heart :-(

I am Jack's colon. I get cancer; I kill Jack.

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 08:04 AM
Just got to work, reading the thread and I'll be back with a more pertinent post!

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 08:14 AM
Looks like all that's happened so far is broth being a karaoke machine and Caddy being Caddy. I tend to think that broth's character is not evil, although I can see why people would think it could be annoying as time goes on. Personally, I think its pretty funny so far!

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 08:20 AM
broth reminds me of Bumblebee from Transformers.

Wootylicous
06-21-2012, 08:30 AM
''Icy bales with shivering cows''

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 08:40 AM
Vote Wooty

Wootylicous
06-21-2012, 08:48 AM
Hmmmm

Vote Broth

Caddy
06-21-2012, 08:57 AM
Off to bed. Get it done boys.

CashmoneyDrew
06-21-2012, 09:57 AM
I'm having a hard time thinking of who Broth's character would be.

vidae
06-21-2012, 10:09 AM
This game is crazy so far y'all.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 10:14 AM
''Icy bales with shivering cows''

"If my baloney has a first name its ... "

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 10:19 AM
EDIT: We can't mention names can we.

sbh15
06-21-2012, 10:20 AM
Who knows. I just can't figure out that last damn lyric

Forenci
06-21-2012, 10:22 AM
EDIT: We can't mention names can we.

Aren't we not supposed to mention names in this game?

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 10:22 AM
Edit that post SBH. I shouldn't have mentioned character names.

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 10:22 AM
EDIT: We can't metion names can we.

At first I thought it was that we can't name ourselves, but yeah according to the rules I don't think we can say "SOMEONE ELSE is Big Bird" or suggest that anyone is this or that character.

vidae
06-21-2012, 10:24 AM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm telling on SuperPacker!!!

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 10:25 AM
Should probably edit as well killswitch.

Anyway, I think I know who Broth is now...

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 10:27 AM
I was using that as an example, I have no idea who that guy is.

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 10:36 AM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm telling on SuperPacker!!!

NO VIDAE!!!

I'm just about to go out, so i'll see you all later.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 10:40 AM
Yup, don't mention any names! Trying to stop any sign of role revealing.

Vote Count

Woot (1) - Broth
Broth (1) - Woot

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 10:41 AM
vote: broth

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 10:42 AM
Vote Count

Woot (1) - Broth
Broth (2) - Woot, killswitch


With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

CashmoneyDrew
06-21-2012, 10:53 AM
I don't really understand anyone voting for Broth unless you're just that easily annoyed by a gimmick character.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 10:55 AM
vote: broth

"If you think that you can fool around
Spread your little rumours all around the town
Oh no
You're playing the wrong game
All the things that you say will go around
Back in your face they will come around
Oh no
You're playing the wrong game "

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 11:00 AM
I don't really understand anyone voting for Broth unless you're just that easily annoyed by a gimmick character.

I'm annoyed at his actions in the other game. I have nothing else to go on. It's the first day so that plus the lyrics are as good as anything else.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 11:07 AM
I'm annoyed at his actions in the other game. I have nothing else to go on. It's the first day so that plus the lyrics are as good as anything else.

"You are so dumb you are really dumb fo real"

hMtZfW2z9dw

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 11:15 AM
Oh the fun has begun!!!! Just woke up. Need to catch up

Forenci
06-21-2012, 11:27 AM
I really so no reason for targeting broth. Sure he might be annoying but I think we can all agree he's probably not evil and is some kind of sing character. I'd rather make a better educated guess on someone we do believe to be evil.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 11:42 AM
Broth seems to be more useful in this game than he has been in any other. Woot, I am suspicious of you sir.

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 11:46 AM
If some better evidence comes out I will change my vote. There's not much going on though.

unvote: broth

Has anyone ever seen no-vote? What were the circumstances there?

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 11:48 AM
If some better evidence comes out I will change my vote. There's not much going on though.

unvote: broth

Has anyone ever seen no-vote? What were the circumstances there?

No lynch has happened but it tends to lead to no information day one and never helps. I kind of hate it. Don't hold your breath waiting for info to come out day one. Get aggressive Killswitch!

Wootylicous
06-21-2012, 11:50 AM
"If my baloney has a first name its ... "

You got the reference my man

Unvote Broth

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 12:06 PM
Sorry guys, I just saw I was in the game now. I'll catch up on everything right away.

ImBrotherCain
06-21-2012, 12:12 PM
One or more of the people that jumped on the Broth train is almost certainly evil.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 12:15 PM
One or more of the people that jumped on the Broth train is almost certainly evil.

So Woot and Killswitch. I could see it. I think it would be incredibly stupid of them to do what they did if they were evil but crazier things have happened.

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 12:17 PM
Just finished reading. I see pretty much no reason to vote Broth, I don't see an evil character having the little singing gimmick he has. The only semi-interesting exchange so far was Woot/Broth's little back and forth. I really hope an evil person wouldn't have been dumb enough to jump on the Broth wagon but it's certainly a possibility.

sbh15
06-21-2012, 12:18 PM
Just finished reading. I see pretty much no reason to vote Broth, I don't see an evil character having the little singing gimmick he has. The only semi-interesting exchange so far was Woot/Broth's little back and forth. I really hope an evil person wouldn't have been dumb enough to jump on the Broth wagon but it's certainly a possibility.

WHY IS THAT? is it because... you're evil, BD? don't want to lose a teammate so early, hrmmm?

vidae
06-21-2012, 12:18 PM
Don't you guys just love day one? No information, nothing at all to go on, just rampant speculation and votes without merit. You must LOVE the first day Gonzo!

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 12:20 PM
WHY IS THAT? is it because... you're evil, BD? don't want to lose a teammate so early, hrmmm?

More like it would be incredibly dumb to do so, but some people aren't as experienced in the game and might have done it. The three you are pointing towards are Caddy, Woot, and Killswitch, and I assure you I have no affiliation to any of those three. Feel free to vote them if you believe they're evil.

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 12:21 PM
Don't you guys just love day one? No information, nothing at all to go on, just rampant speculation and votes without merit. You must LOVE the first day Gonzo!

Who doesn't love day one?? haha

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 12:22 PM
Don't you guys just love day one? No information, nothing at all to go on, just rampant speculation and votes without merit. You must LOVE the first day Gonzo!

Someone has to create chaos and information day one. Not gonna to lie. I love being that guy. Then again it is also fun to sit back and watch people hang themselves without actually needing to do much.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 12:24 PM
So far what I have not liked is SuperPacker breaking the rules and just being SP. I will be keeping my eye on those who voted Broth though.

Vote: SP

Reveal yourself!

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 12:30 PM
So far what I have not liked is SuperPacker breaking the rules and just being SP. I will be keeping my eye on those who voted Broth though.

Vote: SP

Reveal yourself!

First Luis and Gabi are killed, may they Rest In Peace, then Miles goes missing and now you are going after SP?????

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/135/sw50sw8sw578.gif

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 12:30 PM
No lynch has happened but it tends to lead to no information day one and never helps. I kind of hate it. Don't hold your breath waiting for info to come out day one. Get aggressive Killswitch!

I was wondering what possible upside there could be.

How bout YOU get aggressive! You're Gonzo. Get after it! Or REVEAL YOUR ROLE!

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 12:35 PM
I'm going to go the inactive route for now and force people to talk. He had like three posts in the entire Elder Scrolls game soooo....

Vote: CMD

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 12:37 PM
I'm going to go the inactive route for now and force people to talk. He had like three posts in the entire Elder Scrolls game soooo....

Vote: CMD

Well we did agree to collectively take out inactives. I would not be opposed to this and may change my vote but I just don't trust SP right now.

CashmoneyDrew
06-21-2012, 12:43 PM
I'm going to go the inactive route for now and force people to talk. He had like three posts in the entire Elder Scrolls game soooo....

Vote: CMD

I don't see why the last game has any bearing on this game. I have been plenty active so far and will continue to be. So kindly, **** off sir.

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 12:46 PM
I don't see why the last game has any bearing on this game. I have been plenty active so far and will continue to be. So kindly, **** off sir.

It kind of does have barring, but admittedly I searched your name in this thread as a keyword and saw zero posts. I guess it doesn't work for usernames so I mistakenly attributed you to having zero posts. I'll back off and find somebody that has actually been inactive so far.

Unvote: CMD

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 12:47 PM
TBW has been relatively inactive of late but pretty much everyone in this game is someone that is usually pretty active from what I can tell. That being said, RL events do tend to cause some people who are usually active to be inactive (see Rob in the ES game). We do have two classic "lay low" players in CJ and Forenci though.

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 12:47 PM
Easiest way to find post counts: Go into the subforum or your User CP and click the number next to the thread under "Replies."

You get a nice table:

User Name Posts
broth223 16
Caddy 14
CJSchneider 10
killxswitch 9
Dr. Gonzo 8
Bulldogs 5
SuperPacker 5
BeerBaron 5
Grizzlegom 4
sbh15 4
ImBrotherCain 4
Cigaro 4
CashmoneyDrew 4
Shane P. Hallam 4
Tha Wootster 3
vidae 3
Forenci 2
SuperMcgee 2
D-Unit 1
RufusMcDaniel 1

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 12:51 PM
So we have two people yet to speak, TBW and Fenikz.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 12:52 PM
No lynch has happened but it tends to lead to no information day one and never helps. I kind of hate it. Don't hold your breath waiting for info to come out day one. Get aggressive Killswitch!

I would modify that to say " one rarely reveals what they learned on night one"

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 12:53 PM
Vote: TheBoyWonder

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 12:56 PM
D Unit popping in and out makes me wonder too.

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 01:01 PM
D Unit popping in and out makes me wonder too.

Always love the classic "Just woke up, gonna catch up, brb!!!"

Then they don't come back

RufusMcDaniel
06-21-2012, 01:02 PM
It seems that fenikz usually gets the axe on the first days, maybe this is his way to avoid that.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 01:09 PM
''Icy bales with shivering cows''

You got the reference my man




"Everywhere you seem to turn
there’s a monster
When you look up in the air there’s a monster"

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 01:09 PM
I'm down for lynching an inactive day one, so long as we wait a few more hours to give a reasonable timespan to post in. I'm not really sure what to make of the broth votes. More than likely those three were just rooted in genuine annoyance at broth's singing(which I don't see, BTW), but I won't totally dismiss any were mafia hoping maybe to get a townie lynched, and if not, just pass it off as annoyance.

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 01:12 PM
You don't trust me Gonzo? At this stage, why would you trust me?

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 01:18 PM
I'm down for lynching an inactive day one, so long as we wait a few more hours to give a reasonable timespan to post in. I'm not really sure what to make of the broth votes. More than likely those three were just rooted in genuine annoyance at broth's singing(which I don't see, BTW), but I won't totally dismiss any were mafia hoping maybe to get a townie lynched, and if not, just pass it off as annoyance.

I kind of hope that is the case so I can laugh at the mafia. I will be keeping my eye on those *******.

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 01:34 PM
Just logged on, I was signing up for classes on campus. I was not at all inactive in the Glad game so idk why Grizz said that. Let me read the thread and I'll be back with thoughts.

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 01:36 PM
Just logged on, I was signing up for classes on campus. I was not at all inactive in the Glad game so idk why Grizz said that. Let me read the thread and I'll be back with thoughts.

My bad, didn't pay attention to that game honestly. Remembered you being pretty quiet in my king game after the first day or so

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 01:39 PM
Am I the only one or does anyone else have the urge to ask broth certain questions hoping to get specific lyrics back as an answer?

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 01:40 PM
Am I the only one or does anyone else have the urge to ask broth certain questions hoping to get specific lyrics back as an answer?

As the game goes on I will be. I have to think he has some sort of cool power if he is forced to speak only in lyrics.

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 01:41 PM
That's probably why he's linking the songs from youtube. To prove to Shane that it actually is a song and that he's not breaking his requirement.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 01:42 PM
It seems that fenikz usually gets the axe on the first days, maybe this is his way to avoid that.

I have to think he will be active. Maybe he got another ****** role and has given up haha. I could see it being a strategy but it will be an awful one since inactives get lynched. I thought he strategy of saying he always dies early and asking for the watcher to watch him was a good one. Maybe he actually doesn't want to be watched. A tad suspicious. I will say that I tend to die early as well so feel free to watch me!

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 01:45 PM
Am I the only one or does anyone else have the urge to ask broth certain questions hoping to get specific lyrics back as an answer?

Can't say I've really thought of doing that, but I do like watching to see what broth comes up with as responses. The novelty may eventually wear off for me, but its only day one and I think its entertaining.

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 02:00 PM
I've seen enough.

vote: Gonzo

Why? Because he's a cocky son of ***** who likes to stir **** up just to distract attention away from himself. Not fooled.

SuperMcGee
06-21-2012, 02:04 PM
Y'all say a bad guy would have to be pretty stupid to have voted for broth, but I think we can all see that a good guy would have little reason to vote broth, as well. (In effect, I probably just called 3 people stupid. Apologies.) If anything came of it, "it was Day 1 and he was being annoying" seems like a pretty easy thing to fall back on. I continue to find the votes somewhat suspicious, especially Caddy, though he is tough to read as an agitator/Aussie.

That said, I would also think one of the people that came out saying "I highly doubt broth is bad with this gimmick" probably knows that he is good and is playing the nice guy card.

vidae
06-21-2012, 02:10 PM
We're going to have to vote for someone eventually, but the first day usually plays out like this so I can be patient.

Forenci
06-21-2012, 02:11 PM
I concur with Vidae. There's no reason to rush. Let's let people who haven't spoke have their say and get some discussion flowing.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 02:12 PM
I've seen enough.

vote: Gonzo

Why? Because he's a cocky son of ***** who likes to stir **** up just to distract attention away from himself. Not fooled.

Solid reasoning from you as always. I mean forget that I could have called nobody out and had no attention drawn to myself. I mean it is easy to get a lynch train started against me and you are the kind of person to get pissed when you are evil and called out. Add that to you never contributed anything even if you are good which I doubt. I have not forgotten you SP!

Unvote: SP

Vote: D

Reveal yourself! I mean you could also actually contribute something of worth too. That would be nice.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 02:13 PM
Has anyone honestly kept track of the times we have "no lynched" on day 1 and cross referenced that to the actual results of the game?

Forenci
06-21-2012, 02:18 PM
Has anyone honestly kept track of the times we have "no lynched" on day 1 and cross referenced that to the actual results of the game?

Haha, that would actually be a good idea to look and see. We've probably played enough games to get some sort of idea of how good it's been.

Sadly, I am too lazy to do this.

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 02:19 PM
I'll save you a little time in that it hasn't been used in a game I've modded.

It wasn't a true "no lynch" vote, but the Saiyan Saga DBZ game was ended without a lynch on Day 2, aka the day Gonzo and Shane wouldn't shut up.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 02:20 PM
Has anyone honestly kept track of the times we have "no lynched" on day 1 and cross referenced that to the actual results of the game?

"All I do is win no matter what."

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 02:22 PM
I have not forgotten you SP!

What did I do in the first place?!

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 02:24 PM
Solid reasoning from you as always. I mean forget that I could have called nobody out and had no attention drawn to myself. I mean it is easy to get a lynch train started against me and you are the kind of person to get pissed when you are evil and called out. Add that to you never contributed anything even if you are good which I doubt. I have not forgotten you SP!

Unvote: SP

Vote: D

Reveal yourself! I mean you could also actually contribute something of worth too. That would be nice.
You think your babbling is contributing something of worth? LOL. Yeah, you are pretty cocky.

The fact that you are constantly asking people to role reveal should put you at the top of everyone's suspicious list! If you think that's a fair question to ask, why don't you lead the way and role reveal yourself. Let the mafia know YOUR role!!! Until you do that, don't act like you're contributing a damn thing by trying to get others to role reveal.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 02:24 PM
What did I do in the first place?!

Crumbling a bit under the pressure I see. Getting a bit defensive as well. Hmmmm.

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 02:25 PM
What did I do in the first place?!
Gonzo is a finger pointer. It's his strategy to distract attention away from himself. He ALWAYS tries to do that when he's bad. When he's good, he hides and comes up with an excuse that he's busy or something.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 02:26 PM
You think your babbling is contributing something of worth? LOL. Yeah, you are pretty cocky.

The fact that you are constantly asking people to role reveal should put you at the top of everyone's suspicious list! If you think that's a fair question to ask, why don't you lead the way and role reveal yourself. Let the mafia know YOUR role!!! Until you do that, don't act like you're contributing a damn thing by trying to get others to role reveal.

I am not quite sure you get the context of that joke. No biggie, I know you can be a bit slow. I am getting people to talk D. Putting pressure on them. Please tell me what you are doing to contribute. I would love to know. So far you have dipped in and out, got defensive, and seem to be getting really pissed about my role reveal joke. Maybe because you are afraid to role reveal?

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 02:27 PM
Has anyone honestly kept track of the times we have "no lynched" on day 1 and cross referenced that to the actual results of the game?

Until reading BB's post, it didn't occur to me that no lynches could occur beyond the first day. But my not-quite-thorough search uncovered three games had first day no lynches, two town victories, one mafia.

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48144
http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48075
http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51791

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 02:28 PM
Crumbling a bit under the pressure I see. Getting a bit defensive as well. Hmmmm.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO TRUTH behind a person being a mafia if he is being defensive. NONE!!! So many good people have been lynched in trying to defend themselves it's not funny. Stop with the foolery.

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 02:28 PM
Crumbling a bit under the pressure I see. Getting a bit defensive as well. Hmmmm.

I know, i'm crumbling!

:suicide:

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 02:30 PM
I know, i'm crumbling!

:suicide:

You know what, after watching how you have played games, I tend to think you are good now. Congrats buddy :)

Now as for D, well making up stuff about how I have played past games (go back and check, you are way off) and generally freaking out. I know you do this every game D but it has yet to help the town. Get it together man!

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 02:32 PM
I am not quite sure you get the context of that joke. No biggie, I know you can be a bit slow. I am getting people to talk D. Putting pressure on them. Please tell me what you are doing to contribute. I would love to know. So far you have dipped in and out, got defensive, and seem to be getting really pissed about my role reveal joke. Maybe because you are afraid to role reveal?
Gotta love it when people like to hide behind "jokes" and pretend to be doing the town a favor by "getting people to talk". All you're doing is putting up a front and trying to point fingers elsewhere so as to distract attention away from yourself.

Talk to me about role reveal after you've done so yourself. I ain't afraid. Show yourself!

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 02:34 PM
Vote Count

D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
BoyWonder(1) – Bulldogs,
Woot (1) - Broth
Broth (1) – killswitch
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,


With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 02:34 PM
You know what, after watching how you have played games, I tend to think you are good now. Congrats buddy :)

Now as for D, well making up stuff about how I have played past games (go back and check, you are way off) and generally freaking out. I know you do this every game D but it has yet to help the town. Get it together man!
R-O-L-E.... R-E-V-E-A-L!!!!!

I wanna see if you have anything to hide.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 02:35 PM
Gotta love it when people like to hide behind "jokes" and pretend to be doing the town a favor by "getting people to talk". All you're doing is putting up a front and trying to point fingers elsewhere so as to distract attention away from yourself.

Talk to me about role reveal after you've done so yourself. I ain't afraid. Show yourself!

Honestly I am not going to get into an argument with you because THAT actually doesn't. That and I leave for work in 5 minutes. What I will say is think with your head D. You are accusing me of taking attention away from myself? What attention was on me? After thinking about it I could totally see you being a lyncher coming after me, it would make a lot of sense. I suppose we all should point fingers at nobody though and never vote to lynch, solid plan D. You sure love keeping games exciting.

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 02:35 PM
I unvoted broth a few pages back Shane.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 02:36 PM
Vote Count

D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
BoyWonder(1) – Bulldogs,
Woot (1) - Broth
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,


With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

killxswitch
06-21-2012, 02:38 PM
Posting update:

http://i.imgur.com/e46Mk.png

At what point do we decide it has been long enough and go after an inactive?

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 02:41 PM
At what point do we decide it has been long enough and go after an inactive?

I am of the school of thought that "no lynch" would be a prudent course of action.

sbh15
06-21-2012, 02:41 PM
TBW came in with one of those "oh let me read the thread herp derp, then I'll post". and HE STILL HASN'T POSTED! if we must pick an "inactive", I say TBW.

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 02:44 PM
Posting update:

http://i.imgur.com/e46Mk.png

At what point do we decide it has been long enough and go after an inactive?

I'll give fenikz three or four more hours to respond. Went and looked up his recent activity, he's usually on and posting by that time.

TBW came in with one of those "oh let me read the thread herp derp, then I'll post". and HE STILL HASN'T POSTED! if we must pick an "inactive", I say TBW.

Even though he's posted once, I'd probably be more down to lynch TBW than fenikz(unless fenikz doesn't show up at all), because I've had more experience with TBW being inactive than fenikz.

RufusMcDaniel
06-21-2012, 02:44 PM
Posting update:

At what point do we decide it has been long enough and go after an inactive?

Well....I hope these numbers don't come back to haunt me, and I guess I'll inform all that I will be leaving at 4 for work, so don't hold it against me that I'm not around.

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 02:45 PM
I'm off to a meeting in 15 min... not surprised that Gonzo went missing after I called him out.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 02:51 PM
I'm off to a meeting in 15 min... not surprised that Gonzo went missing after I called him out.

Nah I just chose not to answe. Deal with it.

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 02:55 PM
Nah I just chose not to answe. Deal with it.
Hiding. LMAO.

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 02:58 PM
Hiding. LMAO.

In plain site. Come at me!

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 03:29 PM
I have reviewed the thread. I'm leaning SP followed by Gonzo. I've found when SP acts seriously day one his intentions are not that of the town. Sorry if I seem inactive, it's been a long 24 hours.

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 03:37 PM
Forgot to vote.
Vote: SuperPacker

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 03:42 PM
Vote Count

D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
BoyWonder(1) – Bulldogs,
Woot (1) - Broth
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,
SuperPacker (1) - TBW,


With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

sbh15
06-21-2012, 03:43 PM
forget this ****, we aren't coming to a consensus. why drag it out and pretend like we will

vote: no lynch

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 03:46 PM
forget this ****, we aren't coming to a consensus. why drag it out and pretend like we will

vote: no lynch

I could get behind a no lynch for day one, but I want to hear from fenikz still. Not sure what to make of TBW's post, I actually kind of agree about SP, just wonder if its an attempt to divert attention from himself. Just something I'll keep in mind.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 03:46 PM
Vote Count

D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
BoyWonder(1) – Bulldogs,
Woot (1) - Broth
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,
No Lynch (1) - sbh15

With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

CashmoneyDrew
06-21-2012, 03:47 PM
I'm leaning no lynch at this point while also keeping an eye on the three that jumped on the Broth train.

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 03:53 PM
I don't think i've had a game where I wasn't suspicious.

I'm looking at CJ closely, I don't think he normally pushes for no lynch and it has been discussed that no lynch is not what an evil person would want, could be trying to stop himself from being suspicious.

vidae
06-21-2012, 04:04 PM
If you're voting no-lynch you're wasting your vote. Plain and simple. A no-lynch gives us ZERO INFORMATION while killing ANYONE gives us SOMETHING.

fenikz
06-21-2012, 04:10 PM
good morning, was drinking til 7 am, very sesame street :)

SuperMcGee
06-21-2012, 04:18 PM
I don't want to go all Gonzo here, but I'm pretty sure Shane has been reading our role PMs.

If you're voting no-lynch you're wasting your vote. Plain and simple. A no-lynch gives us ZERO INFORMATION while killing ANYONE gives us SOMETHING.

This. There is no loss that is going to completely handicap the town. Attempt something so we don't get stuck in a similar situation tomorrow.

CJ was the first to suggest it, I believe, but I don't find him particularly suspicious.

fenikz
06-21-2012, 04:24 PM
Gonzo seems suspicious to me I know this is always his game plan but there is something different about it this time, more defensive maybe

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 04:27 PM
I could get behind a no lynch for day one, but I want to hear from fenikz still. Not sure what to make of TBW's post, I actually kind of agree about SP, just wonder if its an attempt to divert attention from himself. Just something I'll keep in mind.
Divert attention? Only two people said something about me. I'm not worried about being lynched because the issue was my post count, that has since been resolved.

Also I agree about the no-lynch. Might as well take a shot as opposed to doing nothing. I don't think a no-lynch has ever resulted in anything good and if people assume that is what's to be voted upon, they won't slip up and we won't find any bad guys. In fact I think voting no-lynch this early is incredibly suspicious. We haven't even hit double digit pages yet.

CashmoneyDrew
06-21-2012, 04:28 PM
If we're avoiding no lynch, then we should focus on the three that voted for Broth.

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 04:29 PM
I don't want to go all Gonzo here, but I'm pretty sure Shane has been reading our role PMs
Wait what? Shane sent them out. Do you mean D?

fenikz
06-21-2012, 04:30 PM
how about this, people who have voted give me some reasoning

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 04:36 PM
SP seems to have acted way too normally for a day one. Typically when he does that he's bad. Especially considering the way Broth acted. Normally he would have jumped all over that. Which makes me think Broth might be evil to, but that's probably a longshot.

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 04:50 PM
Who hasn't voted?

fenikz
06-21-2012, 04:53 PM
everyone besides you, gonzo, bulldogs, broth and sbh

SuperMcGee
06-21-2012, 04:54 PM
Everyone.

Me.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 04:56 PM
SP seems to have acted way too normally for a day one. Typically when he does that he's bad. Especially considering the way Broth acted. Normally he would have jumped all over that. Which makes me think Broth might be evil to, but that's probably a longshot.

"Well, I ain't evil, I'm just good lookin'
Start a little fire, and baby start cookin' "

Dr. Gonzo
06-21-2012, 04:56 PM
Gonzo seems suspicious to me I know this is always his game plan but there is something different about it this time, more defensive maybe

See at least I could get behind this reasoning. D was just pissing, me off and not making sense. If you are going to accuse me at least make sense and provide reasons.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 04:58 PM
I don't think i've had a game where I wasn't suspicious.

I'm looking at CJ closely, I don't think he normally pushes for no lynch and it has been discussed that no lynch is not what an evil person would want, could be trying to stop himself from being suspicious.

You probably could have stopped there.

I don't want to go all Gonzo here, but I'm pretty sure Shane has been reading our role PMs.



This. There is no loss that is going to completely handicap the town. Attempt something so we don't get stuck in a similar situation tomorrow.

CJ was the first to suggest it, I believe, but I don't find him particularly suspicious.

I am in favor of going no lynch and I will tell you why. SK's love it when we lynch someone. Why? They like to pick off the inactives. I say make them do there own dirty work. That way, we have a better chance of catching them. Also, the odds of killing a town oriented power possessing person are greater than killing the same for the mafia.

vote: no lynch

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 05:02 PM
Vote Count

D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
BoyWonder(1) – Bulldogs,
Woot (1) - Broth
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,
No Lynch (2) - sbh15, CJSchneider

With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

SuperMcGee
06-21-2012, 05:05 PM
Also, the odds of killing a town oriented power possessing person are greater than killing the same for the mafia.


They always will be. If they weren't, we would have already lost the game. Well, maybe not in regards to solely power roles, but your strategy of not lynching and overvaluing power roles seems to rely entirely on power roles getting us to victory, which is not a good way to go about things.

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 05:08 PM
See at least I could get behind this reasoning. D was just pissing, me off and not making sense. If you are going to accuse me at least make sense and provide reasons.
You brought it on yourself with your ridiculous asking for people to role reveal.

First off, nobody is going to listen to you.

Secondly, it makes you act in a way that is very suspicious... trying to divert attention away from yourself.

Third, by asking that, it puts people in a position that makes them a dangerous target for the mafia. Probably exactly what you're trying to find out.

Fourth, you later cover that up by trying to say you were only "joking" about it.

Fifth, the way you were doing it was in a very cocky manner... but then again, that's just the norm for you in these games.

So I figured, what the hell... I'll give you a dose of your own medicine.

Expectedly, you slithered your way around it.

vidae
06-21-2012, 05:10 PM
Your reasoning is really weak CJ, and the fact you're still pushing a no-lynch seems weird to me.

sbh15
06-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Your reasoning is really weak CJ, and the fact you're still pushing a no-lynch seems weird to me.

I know I voted no lynch, but I can get behind this. First glance through his post, something just seemed off about it. I thought we wouldn't come to a consensus on anything but a no lynch. clearly, that is wrong.

unvote: no lynch

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 05:16 PM
They always will be. If they weren't, we would have already lost the game. Well, maybe not in regards to solely power roles, but your strategy of not lynching and overvaluing power roles seems to rely entirely on power roles getting us to victory, which is not a good way to go about things.
I don't get this. If you're making a case for the importance of townies and not relying solely on power roles, no lynch still seems quite reasonable, as it means risking one less dead townie.

There was some discussion that voting for no lynch is suspicious, but I think its more likely to be the inverse. The mafia usually always benefits from the day one lynch because of the game setup. Saying that not lynching day one provides no information is perhaps true, but we shouldn't act like lynching day one will always provide us with something meaningful, and may actually lead to further bad lynches because we make something out of nothing. Again, I think those suggesting that we lynch anyways have a somewhat valid point, but it also could be the mafia trying to make a case for forcing a lynch.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Vote Count

D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
BoyWonder(1) – Bulldogs,
Woot (1) - Broth
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,
No Lynch (1) - CJSchneider

With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 05:19 PM
Your reasoning is really weak CJ, and the fact you're still pushing a no-lynch seems weird to me.

Let it seem weird, if you are good, you will rely on it as it is what is going to help you. Until a solid case can be made to lynch someone I also feel is evil, my vote stands as it is.

vidae
06-21-2012, 05:31 PM
Let it seem weird, if you are good, you will rely on it as it is what is going to help you. Until a solid case can be made to lynch someone I also feel is evil, my vote stands as it is.

Help me? No. The only people that a no lynch helps is the Mafia. This game is about information. If we don't get information we hurt ourselves. The fact that you don't see that is kind of baffling.

You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Some of you need to resign yourself to the fact that we will not have a perfect game. Townies will be lost. Some of us will die. All that matters is at the end of the game that the rest of the town is standing and the Monsters are hanging from the rafters. Period.

vote : CJ

I don't like the way he has been playing so far.

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 05:32 PM
Shane you missed my SP vote.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 05:34 PM
Vote Count

SuperPack (1) - BoyWonder
D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
BoyWonder(1) – Bulldogs,
Woot (1) - Broth
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,
CJSchneider (1) - vidae
No Lynch (2) - sbh15, CJSchneider

With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority


Sorry! I'll get the hang of this soon :D

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 05:35 PM
I like your reasoning Vid. This hard push for no-lynch is unusual especially from CJ. I want to hear CJ's defense, but he's much more suspicious than SP at the moment.
Unvote: SuperPacker

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 05:36 PM
Hahaha sorry Shane.

SuperPacker
06-21-2012, 05:40 PM
I've been in and out all day so i've not really had the time to really have continued discussion.

CJ pushing hard for a no lynch seems weird to me and "i'm only lynching if i'm sure" is stupid, because nobody can be sure on day one and i'm pretty sure CJ has previously voted for people on day one without making this much of a fuss.

Vote: CJ

Goodnight y'all!

sbh15
06-21-2012, 05:47 PM
Shane, for some reason you added my vote back to no-lynch after taking it away. There should be only one vote for no-lynch, and it is CJ.

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 05:51 PM
Help me? No. The only people that a no lynch helps is the Mafia. This game is about information. If we don't get information we hurt ourselves. The fact that you don't see that is kind of baffling.

That's not even close to true. Day one no lynches don't help the mafia, day one lynches do. A day one lynch more than often results in the death of a townsperson, which only benefits the mafia. Day one is the easiest way for the mafia to get a townsperson lynched, to suggest that the opposite is really how the mafia would play it makes no sense.

And stop acting like day two always contains pertinent information that resulted from the previous day's lynch. I've played in a number of games where day two had as little information as day one. We will get some information from lynching someone today, but that it no way means its relevant enough to justify the lynching the lynchee. So its very possible that will be no further along day two, and now we've lynched a likely townsperson to get there.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 06:02 PM
I like your reasoning Vid. This hard push for no-lynch is unusual especially from CJ. I want to hear CJ's defense, but he's much more suspicious than SP at the moment.
Unvote: SuperPacker

Defense of what? My contention thus far is that no one has stood out enough to make me vote to lynch them, and that statistically we stand a greater chance to kill a town person with powers than a mafia member. I don't expect to pull a Matt Cain and throw a perfect mafia game, but I'm not going to vote to kill someone innocent right off the bat.

SP and Vid are fools if they lead you down this line of thinking and you will all see it. That is a fact.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 06:11 PM
Vote Count


D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
BoyWonder(1) – Bulldogs,
Woot (1) - Broth
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,
CJSchneider (2) - vidae, SuperPacker
No Lynch (1) - CJSchneider

With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority


Ugh, sorry. Let me know if this is correct

Caddy
06-21-2012, 06:32 PM
I went to bed hoping Day 1 would be over when I woke up.

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Cigaro
06-21-2012, 06:45 PM
I went to bed hoping Day 1 would be over when I woke up.

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Yeah well you don't always get what you want!

Anyways, seems this has stalled a bit, I'll go ahead and cast my vote. I think its the best option for day one, at least this one, as there is nothing to go on. Nothing solid on any of them, but I'm going to keep watch over the broth voters, as well as those pushing that we need to lynch someone today.

Vote: No lynch

CashmoneyDrew
06-21-2012, 06:48 PM
The only other game I've been in that started with a "no lynch" was the HP game, and that worked out quite fine for us.

Vote: No lynch

vidae
06-21-2012, 06:54 PM
Well hey, if it worked that one time it will probably work in our favor again, amirite?

What is to stop us from no lynching on day two? Or three?

You guys are ridiculous. Enjoy getting absolutely zero information from the first 10 pages of this game. My vote won't change. I don't trust CJ and I don't trust the way he has been playing.

fenikz
06-21-2012, 06:56 PM
It kinda helps figure out who has powers and who doesn't those willing to no lynch most likely have ways of acquiring information of their own

As a evil player I've never pushed for a no lynch but wouldn't shock me to see CJ try and it's strange for him to be so active

Caddy
06-21-2012, 06:57 PM
Yeah well you don't always get what you want!

Anyways, seems this has stalled a bit, I'll go ahead and cast my vote. I think its the best option for day one, at least this one, as there is nothing to go on. Nothing solid on any of them, but I'm going to keep watch over the broth voters, as well as those pushing that we need to lynch someone today.

Vote: No lynch

I guess I'll go ahead and cast my vote too.

vote: cigaro

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 07:00 PM
Well hey, if it worked that one time it will probably work in our favor again, amirite?

What is to stop us from no lynching on day two? Or three?

You guys are ridiculous. Enjoy getting absolutely zero information from the first 10 pages of this game. My vote won't change. I don't trust CJ and I don't trust the way he has been playing.

What's to stop us? Pretty simple, not voting for that option.

There will be night actions, presumably nightkills. This will give us something to go on, albeit not necessarily anything of worth. Will a lynch today provide similar information? Yes, but like the nightkill, it may be nothing of worth/use, or worse, something that wrongly leads us to another town kill. Odds heavily favor us lynching a townsperson today, so I'd rather wait one night and see if anything more tangible presents itself. If it doesn't, all it means is we put off a blind lynch, which I don't see as a bad thing.

Also, I did another random number generator, got eleven. So I'm pretty sure sbh15 is evil.

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 07:01 PM
I will always stand against no lynches. What if we have no info tomorrow? We're essentially in the same position as today. I'll use some Job logic on this one. CJ supports no lynching, therefore CJ is hurting the town.

Unvote: TBW

Vote: CJ

CashmoneyDrew
06-21-2012, 07:01 PM
Well hey, if it worked that one time it will probably work in our favor again, amirite?

What is to stop us from no lynching on day two? Or three?

You guys are ridiculous. Enjoy getting absolutely zero information from the first 10 pages of this game. My vote won't change. I don't trust CJ and I don't trust the way he has been playing.

It has a 100% success rate!

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 07:25 PM
"This is what happens when bad meets evil"

Revote: Wooty

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 07:27 PM
I will always stand against no lynches. What if we have no info tomorrow? We're essentially in the same position as today. I'll use some Job logic on this one. CJ supports no lynching, therefore CJ is hurting the town.

Unvote: TBW

Vote: CJ

You make it sound like people wont do their actions. Hell it's rare that people come out anyway, but by no lynch, you don't start off down a man. The monsters are laughing at you.

Caddy
06-21-2012, 07:31 PM
I actually think the people who have been completely avoiding the no lynch/lynch argument are much more likely to be evil, rather than the people who have actively been participating in the discussion.

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 07:45 PM
I understand the merits of both no lynch and lynch but I've always been of the same line of thought as vidae, Bulldogs, etc. That being said, usually somebody slips up by this point and says something that causes us to want to lynch them. I think CJ has been a bit out of character being as vocal as he has, either its because he's evil or he just has more time on his hands. Aside from that, nobody has really jumped out at me so far.

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 08:02 PM
I don't care for no lynching. Let's throw a dart and see what happens.

Vote: Woot

Three posts, nothing particularly worthwhile. First post was an odd quote. I don't have a good feeling from him.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 08:04 PM
Vote Count

No Lynch (3) – CJSchneider, Cigaro, CMD
CJSchneider (4) - vidae, SuperPacker, Bulldogs, TheBoyWonder
Woot (2) - Broth, BeerBaron
D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
Gonzo (1) – D-Unit,
Cigaro (1) - Caddy


With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

Let me know if there are any issues, and please bold your votes

TheBoyWonder22
06-21-2012, 08:05 PM
Vote: CJ I've already stated my reasoning.

SuperMcGee
06-21-2012, 08:13 PM
I actually think the people who have been completely avoiding the no lynch/lynch argument are much more likely to be evil, rather than the people who have actively been participating in the discussion.

As much as I dislike the stance of CJ and Cigaro, this makes sense. The guy that decided to post on the subject right after this post was somebody I had a hunch about, too. Lending some passive suspicion on the guy gaining votes is interesting.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 08:14 PM
Voting to lynch me over no lynch at this juncture will only demonstrate your lack of intelligence, and I mean that sincerely.

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 08:17 PM
I have an odd feeling that Gonzo is Gonzo. LOL!

unvote: Gonzo
vote: CJ

For no other reason than I'd like the day to go on and the town seems to be in favor of lynching him. .. well, maybe there's another reason ... that being CJ is never this talkative this early in the game. Something is up...

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 08:19 PM
Voting to lynch me over no lynch at this juncture will only demonstrate your lack of intelligence, and I mean that sincerely.
Well, you didn't want to follow me on Gonzo when he is clearly bad, so I'm going with the group.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 08:20 PM
Just so you know, I do find the irony in the fact that just two games ago I was told people couldn't trust me because I don't talk enough.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 08:20 PM
Vote Count

No Lynch (3) – CJSchneider, Cigaro, CMD
CJSchneider (5) - vidae, SuperPacker, Bulldogs, TheBoyWonder, D-Unit
Woot (2) - Broth, BeerBaron
D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
Cigaro (1) - Caddy


With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

Let me know if there are any issues, and please bold your votes

BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 08:22 PM
Just so you know, I do find the irony in the fact that just two games ago I was told people couldn't trust me because I don't talk enough.

Yes, but sudden changes in play style are also quite suspicious.

I feel like you're just posting more because it's summer and you happen to be around right now.

Brothgar
06-21-2012, 08:25 PM
I don't care for no lynching. Let's throw a dart and see what happens.

Vote: Woot

Three posts, nothing particularly worthwhile. First post was an odd quote. I don't have a good feeling from him.

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BeerBaron
06-21-2012, 08:26 PM
I will be interested in seeing how you broth it up via song lyrics...

But if there's someone who will find a way, it's you.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 08:26 PM
Yes, but sudden changes in play style are also quite suspicious.

I feel like you're just posting more because it's summer and you happen to be around right now.

That's pretty much it. Alas, do me a favor and nail the fools making poor choices.

Grizzlegom
06-21-2012, 08:27 PM
Yes, but sudden changes in play style are also quite suspicious.

I feel like you're just posting more because it's summer and you happen to be around right now.

This was my suspicion as well which is why I didn't vote. At this point, I'm actually most suspicious of Cain. He's been virtually non-existent, which seems odd for him.

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 08:31 PM
Broth, do me a favor and make these the lyrics you quote should I in fact be lynched.

zdmSNRxmxJc

D-Unit
06-21-2012, 08:34 PM
Alright CJ... i'm buying your act.

unvote: CJ

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 08:37 PM
Vote Count

No Lynch (3) – CJSchneider, Cigaro, CMD
CJSchneider (4) - vidae, SuperPacker, Bulldogs, TheBoyWonder,
Woot (2) - Broth, BeerBaron
D-Unit (1) – Gonzo,
Cigaro (1) - Caddy


With 21 people remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority

Let me know if there are any issues, and please bold your votes

SuperMcGee
06-21-2012, 08:39 PM
Yes, but sudden changes in play style are also quite suspicious.

I feel like you're just posting more because it's summer and you happen to be around right now.

That's how I feel regarding CJ. I remember thinking his activity was oddly high in a recent game and he just ended up being a townie. I still think he needs to get over the power roles, considering he did well in that role.

sbh15
06-21-2012, 08:40 PM
plus I would assume it's always easier to post more as a good character because you have that to fall back on as a last resort defense of yourself

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 08:45 PM
plus I would assume it's always easier to post more as a good character because you have that to fall back on as a last resort defense of yourself

I'm not following you at all. First you vote no lynch, following CJ's suggestion. When vidae then says he's suspicious of CJ, you unvote and agree with vidae. Now that people are saying CJ's different activity level may not be sinisterly rooted, you're making a case in agreement.

That, and you're the chosen number eleven.

fenikz
06-21-2012, 08:57 PM
obv this might not be the best decision but it's a safe one, we can kill broth because he is obv just a joke role

Caddy
06-21-2012, 09:00 PM
obv this might not be the best decision but it's a safe one, we can kill broth because he is obv just a joke role

Or it is Broth's master plan to make us think it's a joke role!

CJSchneider
06-21-2012, 09:03 PM
That's just too ballsy, even for me. Besides, I'm still thinking up conspiracy theories for his ability.

I'm headed to Sonic. Be back soon.

Caddy
06-21-2012, 09:04 PM
Jbond, what happens if we reach 36 hours?

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 09:05 PM
obv this might not be the best decision but it's a safe one, we can kill broth because he is obv just a joke role

Why would the safe decision be to kill a very likely good guy rather than simply not lynching? Not sure if this is a gaffe resulting from dying day one every time, or something else.

Shane P. Hallam
06-21-2012, 09:08 PM
Jbond, what happens if we reach 36 hours?

You shall find out if it happens!

fenikz
06-21-2012, 09:10 PM
Why would the safe decision be to kill a very likely good guy rather than simply not lynching? Not sure if this is a gaffe resulting from dying day one every time, or something else.

because it's a useless good guy at best and at least we would learn something

those who are opposed may very well be evil and hoping to get a bigger threat

Vote: Cigaro

sbh15
06-21-2012, 09:11 PM
I'm not following you at all. First you vote no lynch, following CJ's suggestion. When vidae then says he's suspicious of CJ, you unvote and agree with vidae. Now that people are saying CJ's different activity level may not be sinisterly rooted, you're making a case in agreement.

That, and you're the chosen number eleven.

notice that I never voted for CJ... because I was never sold, maybe? I don't know the tendencies of anyone in these games since this is my fourth ever. given the explanations people have made for CJ, I thought they made sense, and so I backed off of my suspicion.

Caddy
06-21-2012, 09:11 PM
unvote cigaro
vote: fenikz

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 09:11 PM
because it's a useless good guy at best and at least we would learn something

What do we learn from lynching broth that we wouldn't learn from a no lynch? We're already pretty certain broth is good, we're already suspicious of those who initially voted for him, what more does lynching him day one gain us?

Bulldogs
06-21-2012, 09:13 PM
because it's a useless good guy at best and at least we would learn something

those who are opposed may very well be evil and hoping to get a bigger threat

Vote: Cigaro

There is no such thing as a useless good guy. What do we learn from lynching Broth? Come on now.

fenikz
06-21-2012, 09:14 PM
unvote cigaro
vote: fenikz

interesting sir

:waiting:

Cigaro
06-21-2012, 09:20 PM
notice that I never voted for CJ... because I was never sold, maybe? I don't know the tendencies of anyone in these games since this is my fourth ever. given the explanations people have made for CJ, I thought they made sense, and so I backed off of my suspicion.

I'm always suspicious of followers who jump around. It's only day one, and as you can see, I haven't voted for you either, but I still believe its odd behavior.

those who are opposed may very well be evil and hoping to get a bigger threat

Vote: Cigaro

Or those who are opposed don't see the gain in lynching a pretty much known good guy when no lynch is an option. Day one's a crapshoot, but if no lynch is an option, there's no reason to lynch someone who's almost certainly good. You haven't provided any actual reason why lynching broth provides us with more info than lynching no one, which would unquestionably be the safe option you advocated for. Your logic has been pretty poor.

fenikz
06-21-2012, 09:23 PM
it got a discussion going didnt it even a rapid vote change by caddy

going hiking be back later

Caddy
06-21-2012, 09:26 PM
it got a discussion going didnt it even a rapid vote change by caddy

going hiking be back later

I changed my vote because of your dumb reasoning...

vidae
06-21-2012, 09:30 PM
I'm always suspicious of followers who jump around. It's only day one, and as you can see, I haven't voted for you either, but I still believe its odd behavior.



Or those who are opposed don't see the gain in lynching a pretty much known good guy when no lynch is an option. Day one's a crapshoot, but if no lynch is an option, there's no reason to lynch someone who's almost certainly good. You haven't provided any actual reason why lynching broth provides us with more info than lynching no one, which would unquestionably be the safe option you advocated for. Your logic has been pretty poor.

Oh, I wasn't aware you knew the alignment of everyone playing. Who is "certainly good" right now Cigaro? And how did you come across this information? Were you told ahead of time?