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49ersfan_87
07-08-2012, 10:48 PM
I found AFC harder to predict (and generally a weaker conference than the NFC).

NFC

1- Packers
2- Eagles
3- 49ers
4- Bucs (yes, my shocker pick)
5- Giants
6- Bears

Just missed: Falcons, Saints, Lions, Seahawks

Reasoning: Pretty standard all around i think. For TB, i predict they're a well-coached team that minimizes turnovers and improves on defense, and the combo of Doug Martin/LeGarrette Blount help them grind out games.

AFC

1- Patriots
2- Texans
3- Chargers
4- Steelers
5- Titans
6- Jets

Just missed: Broncos, Ravens, Bengals

Reasoning: I had the Ravens out because they're missing their best defender, have a new DC, and kept Cameron (who Ravens fans hate and think is the main reason for Flacco not hitting his potential). This is probably the team i feel worst about leaving off. Broncos are another team i could see getting in, but i think San Diego bounces back this year.

Maybe i'm crazy. Just going off gut feelings, which is as good a reason for any prediction in July when the final standings will probably be crazy as ****. Post your own predictions.

Ness
07-08-2012, 11:08 PM
Seems like we have one of these every month. Anyways:

NFC:

1. Packers
2. Eagles
3. 49ers
4. Saints
5. Giants
6. Buccaneers

AFC:

1. Texans
2. Patriots
3. Ravens
4. Chargers
5. Steelers
6. Broncos

jrdrylie
07-09-2012, 08:20 AM
NFC:

1. Packers
2. Falcons
3. Cowboys
4. Cardinals
5. Bears
6. Lions

AFC:

1. Ravens
2. Texans
3. Patriots
4. Broncos
5. Bills
6. Titans

WCH
07-09-2012, 08:29 AM
NFC:

1. Packers
2. Falcons
3. Cowboys
4. Cardinals
5. Bears
6. Lions

AFC:

1. Ravens
2. Texans
3. Patriots
4. Broncos
5. Bills
6. Titans

I think it's interesting that you have three playoff teams coming out of the NFC North. I've mulled this over quite a bit, and I think it's a distinct possibility. At the same time, I wouldn't be shocked if any of those teams had their QB go down, and then they're screwed (see: Chicago, last season). None of those QBs are ever going to be the poster-boy for durability. I think that most people would agree that Green Bay is the best of the group; but if AR goes down, the current backup is a rookie seventh round pick.

It's also tough to have three playoff-level teams in one division, because they beat each other up for four games a year.

I'm not objecting, because that's close to what my list would look like. This is just something that I've been thinking about all offseason.

jrdrylie
07-09-2012, 08:31 AM
I think it's interesting that you have three playoff teams coming out of the NFC North. I've mulled this over quite a bit, and I think it's a distinct possibility. At the same time, I wouldn't be shocked if any of those teams had their QB go down, and then they're screwed (see: Chicago, last season). None of those QBs are ever going to be the poster-boy for durability.

It's tough to have three playoff-level teams in one division, because they beat each other up for four games a year.

I considered having the Lions replaced by the Giants but I decided against it.

WCH
07-09-2012, 08:43 AM
Yeah, I'm not objecting (the only thing I would change would be to replace the Cowboys with the Giants). I've just thought about this a lot during the offseason because I'm paranoid that GB is going to have a few bad breaks and miss the playoffs altogether. In some divisions they'd be a lock for the playoffs, but the NFCN is going to be tough if all of the QBs stay healthy.

That being said, I'd still rather have all of the teams playing at a high level than have one team walking through the division. It makes the season more interesting.

AntoinCD
07-09-2012, 09:02 AM
NFC:

1. Philadelphia Eagles
2. Green Bay Packers
3. San Francisco 49ers
4. Carolina Panthers
5. Dallas Cowboys
6. Detroit Lions

Analysis:

The NFC is stocked this year with some great teams and it will mean that some really good teams don't make the playoffs. The Giants will struggle because I see both the Eagles and Cowboys being much improved this year. The Saints have an uphill battle with all the drama surrounding the team and I think Carolina take a big step forward.


AFC:

1. New England Patriots
2. Houston Texans
3. Pittsburgh Steelrs
4. San Diego Chargers
5. Kansas City Chiefs
6. Baltimore Ravens

Analysis:

The Patriots have the easiest schedule in the NFL and should take the division again even though the Bills have greatly improved. If Philip Rivers and Ryan Mathews can get the San Diego offense going then the division is theirs for the taking, but if not the healthy Chiefs could easily win the division. I question how effective Peyton Manning will be, particularly early in the season.

Maybe This Year Mayhew
07-09-2012, 10:08 AM
NFC
1. Eagles
2. Lions
3. 49ers
4. Saints
5. Packers
6. Giants

Eagles seemed to put it together and finally make use of all that talent. Same with Lions with more on field discipline, good QB, plenty of weapons, somewhat of a running game now and good deep Dline. That Lions secondary was top 5 before injuries to Houston and Delmas however, playing Packers/Saints twice skewed it downwards too. Pack could still go very deep in playoffs though even at number 5 seed. It will be very close with Lions/Packers and Bears in the mix. 49ers are a lock with that D and new weapons and Saints still edge out the Falcons despite the off field troubles. Giants are very dangerous as always even with the offensive reload.

AFC
1. Patriots
2. Texans
3. Steelers
4. Chargers
5. Jets
6. Broncos

Brady is Brady. Texans with that D and a healthy Schaub/Johnson are explosive. Steelers grind out one more North title. Rivers gets them back to the playoffs just edging Peyton and the Broncos.

OSUGiants17
07-09-2012, 10:57 AM
NFC:
1. 49ers
2. Packers
3. Giants
4. Bucs
5. Bears
6. Eagles

Just Missed: Cowboys, Falcons, Lions

AFC:
1. Patriots
2. Texans
3. Steelers
4. Chiefs
5. Bengals
6. Titans

Just missed: Bills, Ravens, Jets

gpngc
07-09-2012, 11:15 AM
AFC

1. Patriots
2. Chargers
3. Ravens
4. Colts
5. Jets
6. Raiders
WATCH OUT FOR: Browns, Bills, Titans

NFC
1. Falcons
2. Lions
3. Cowboys
4. 49ers
5. Packers
6. Eagles
WATCH OUT FOR: Saints, Seahawks, Giants

OSUGiants17
07-09-2012, 12:24 PM
AFC

1. Patriots
2. Chargers
3. Ravens
4. Colts
5. Jets
6. Raiders
WATCH OUT FOR: Browns, Bills, Titans

NFC
1. Falcons
2. Lions
3. Cowboys
4. 49ers
5. Packers
6. Eagles
WATCH OUT FOR: Saints, Seahawks, Giants

So the Colts edge out the Titans and the Texans aren't even a team to watch out for? The Colts will be lucky to get 6 wins with that D, especially moving to a 3-4 and a rookie QB. The Raiders make the playoffs? The Browns get even close to the playoffs? You're a funny guy

gpngc
07-09-2012, 12:40 PM
So the Colts edge out the Titans and the Texans aren't even a team to watch out for? The Colts will be lucky to get 6 wins with that D, especially moving to a 3-4 and a rookie QB. The Raiders make the playoffs? The Browns get even close to the playoffs? You're a funny guy

Watch out for are teams that are close but ultimately don't make it.

Also, I love the NFL. You love the NFL and will watch this season. That is my defense.

Anybody can sit here and type the chalk in. The fact is, the chalk won't hold. Thus, some predictions that some may think are ridiculous.

Knicks and Bucs
07-09-2012, 01:54 PM
AFC
1. Pats
2. Ravens
3. Broncos
4. Titans
5. Texans
6. Bills

NFC
1. Bears
2. Cowboys
3. Falcons
4. 49ers
5. Packers
6. Giants

Hurricanes25
07-09-2012, 04:42 PM
NFC
1. Green Bay Packers
2. New York Giants
3. San Francisco 49ers
4. Atlanta Falcons
5. Philadelphia Eagles
6. Detroit Lions

The NFC is loaded. It was tough keeping the Bears and Cowboys out. Also look out for the Bucs and Seahawks. It should be interesting to see what the Saints do.

AFC
1. New England Patriots
2. Houston Texans
3. Pittsburgh Steelers
4. Denver Broncos
5. Cincinnatti Bengals
6. New York Jets

It was extremely tough to keep the Ravens out. They're a team that could go 9-7 and barely miss the playoffs or go 12-4 and get a first round bye. I think the Titans are on the rise but kept them out. I like the Bills as well but I'm still not sure what to think of Fitzpatrick. The Chiefs should be good as well. I went with the Jets becuase I think they are a team that could get win with sub par QB play. We've seen it before.

OSUGiants17
07-09-2012, 05:09 PM
Watch out for are teams that are close but ultimately don't make it.

Also, I love the NFL. You love the NFL and will watch this season. That is my defense.

Anybody can sit here and type the chalk in. The fact is, the chalk won't hold. Thus, some predictions that some may think are ridiculous.

I know what "Watch Out For" means, it's not some big medical term or crazy metaphor, with hidden meanings, it's basic English. You are saying the Browns will get close to the Playoffs and the Texans won't which is pretty absurd and you gave no reasoning which leads me to believe you are just trying to make crazy predictions a la Steve A. Smith and Skip Bayless. Also, what does that second part even mean?

gpngc
07-09-2012, 05:32 PM
I know what "Watch Out For" means, it's not some big medical term or crazy metaphor, with hidden meanings, it's basic English. You are saying the Browns will get close to the Playoffs and the Texans won't which is pretty absurd and you gave no reasoning which leads me to believe you are just trying to make crazy predictions a la Steve A. Smith and Skip Bayless. Also, what does that second part even mean?

You don't like my predictions - that's fine. I will post a detailed explanation sometime in the future.

The short version is that Luck will be a great QB from the start, and will use his very good weaponry to an historic rookie season. The defense will be improved under Pagano and a revived pass rush, Angerer, and some timely luck (the Packers and Patriots had terrible defenses last year and lost I think four times combined. If Luck is as good as I think he can be, it's not a stretch to think they could ride that offense to 10 wins, especially with a relatively easy sked).

For the Browns and Raiders, I'm simply MUCH higher on both QBs. I think Weeden gets a bad wrap because he forces the issue at times and lazy draftniks downgraded him because of his age as opposed to actually analyzing his game and elite arm.

I think the Steelers finally fall off. I'll likely be wrong because I say that once every two years and it never hits. Ben could get hurt with that playing style/mileage/age, and the secondary sucks. The OL could still potentially be an issue and their running game could be terrible.

I don't think any of my other predictions need validating. The Falcons D will be better under Nolan, the Saints have issues, and Matt Stafford has the potential to be even better which is just scary. The Giants were lucky to make the playoffs last year considering the Miles Austin drop. Them missing out in the NFC Beast isn't that crazy.

As for Houston, their passing game may struggle while everyone else is improving around the league. They are way overvalued right now considering they lost their best defensive player and played out of their minds in the secondary last season. A repeat performance is possible, but not likely. Wade Phillips is a good reason they may be solid again but losing Ryans and Williams will hurt. And the OL lost some key pieces. Everyone who doesn't believe in Hasselbeck and/or Locker has them winning the division almost by default (and because they had a good D last year and boast two fantasy studs that everyone knows in AJ and Foster). I think they are overvalued by the public right now.

Bottom line is nobody knows what's going to happen so bashing someone's predictions is pointless.

Mufasa
07-09-2012, 06:22 PM
1. Packers
2. Saints
3. 49ers
4. Eagles
5. Bears
6. Lions

1. Patriots
2. Texans
3. Chiefs
4. Steelers
5. Broncos
6. Bills

Rosebud
07-09-2012, 07:18 PM
AFC
Patriots
Texans
Broncos
Steelers
Bills
Titans

NFC
Packers
Cowboys
Bucs
Seahawks
Giants
Bears

Although i'm not very confident on the Bucs or Seahawks picks at all, just feeling a fall back from the 9ers while the Hawks get a lot better with Flynn in for Tavaris. The Bucs are just the de facto pick since I'm not sold on any team in that division.

Razor
07-10-2012, 02:19 AM
So the Texans makes it twice? I guess they're pretty good...

Ness
07-10-2012, 04:13 AM
So the Texans makes it twice? I guess they're pretty good...

Watch out for the Texans.

Razor
07-10-2012, 04:59 AM
Watch out for the Texans.

I was referring to Rosebud's post where he has them going twice. But yeah, the Texans are a very good team. IMO they're the second best team behind the Pats in the AFC.

prock
07-10-2012, 07:14 AM
NFC
1. Packers
2. Giants
3. 49ers
4. Panthers
5. Bears
5. Eagles

AFC
1. Patriots
2. Texans
3. Broncos
4. Bengals
5. Chiefs
6. Ravens

Rosebud
07-10-2012, 09:41 AM
So the Texans makes it twice? I guess they're pretty good...

whoopsie...

gpngc
07-10-2012, 09:46 AM
I think the Bucs are going to be terrible again. Their defense is still brutal...

Rosebud
07-10-2012, 09:55 AM
They were young and disorganized. The talent on that defense however wasn't terrible. Add an offense that can eat up the clock and consistently move the ball and their job will be much easier.

princefielder28
07-10-2012, 10:03 AM
NFC

East :: Philadelphia
North :: Green Bay
South :: New Orleans
West :: San Francisco

Wildcards :: Dallas and Chicago

AFC

East :: New England
North :: Pittsburgh
South :: Houston
West :: Kansas City

Wildcards :: New York and Baltimore

Ness
07-10-2012, 01:55 PM
I was referring to Rosebud's post where he has them going twice. But yeah, the Texans are a very good team. IMO they're the second best team behind the Pats in the AFC.

I know. That was dry humor.

Knicks and Bucs
07-10-2012, 04:54 PM
Surprised a lot of people on here have Tampa winning the South. I do think they will be a lot better than what people say. I cant see how the hell this team is a 4-5 win team when they have had one of the best offseasons, but people I guess assume they will leave where they left off at last year. They were not interested in those last four games. I think the defense will be much better and the offense is going to be awesome. If Freeman can play like he did in 2010 with that arsenal then that offense will be pretty sexy. I think they will be a .500 team honestly.

Ness
07-10-2012, 05:08 PM
The Buccaneers might just need an attitude change. Obviously none of us were around the team, but reports are that the squad gave up on Morris in the thick of the season. They have a new head coach, and usually it takes time with a new staff to build momentum. I like the Buccaneers sneaking up on people, but I don't think they make the playoffs. If they win eight games that would be a really good improvement.

Preston
07-11-2012, 11:43 AM
1. Packers
2. Eagles
3. 49ers
4. Falcons
5. Giants
6. Bears

1. Patriots
2. Steelers
3. Chiefs
4. Texans
5. Bills
6. Chargers

gpngc
07-11-2012, 11:53 AM
Surprised a lot of people on here have Tampa winning the South. I do think they will be a lot better than what people say. I cant see how the hell this team is a 4-5 win team when they have had one of the best offseasons, but people I guess assume they will leave where they left off at last year. They were not interested in those last four games. I think the defense will be much better and the offense is going to be awesome. If Freeman can play like he did in 2010 with that arsenal then that offense will be pretty sexy. I think they will be a .500 team honestly.

Freeman played against an historically bad defensive division (NFC West) in 2010.

They added an overrated WR who benefited from Rivers and a rookie safety who should be a fine player, but will have a lot of pressure on just him to make a huge difference.

He may help the run defense marginally, but the team still has no pass rush and suspect run defense (didn't improve the LB besides run-around David).

I just don't see it. With the record of great college coaches translating to the NFL so poor, I'd be surprised if a mediocre college coach with arguably the worst roster in his division, a division that features two SB contenders and an up-and-coming team with a guy who torched TB last year, is able to win more than 5 or maybe 6 games.

That's my rationale, and I think it makes a lot more sense than 'added VJax who is AWESUMZ and DOUG MARTINZ yes RB and WR WOOHOoo. Those positions are the least important in the game and the defense is still suspect.

Unless Josh Freeman takes a HUGE, Cam-Newton-like step forward, I see this team struggling in Schiano's first year.

bigbluedefense
07-11-2012, 01:27 PM
Well, it's simple really.

If Freeman sucks this year, it's time to move on. He's been poor 2 out of his 3 seasons. If he has another bad year, that's 3 bad years and 1 good year.

Realistically he has 2 years left to prove himself, but if he looks awful this year, it wouldn't be a terrible idea to draft another qb if the right one falls to them.

AntoinCD
07-11-2012, 01:59 PM
Well, it's simple really.

If Freeman sucks this year, it's time to move on. He's been poor 2 out of his 3 seasons. If he has another bad year, that's 3 bad years and 1 good year.

Realistically he has 2 years left to prove himself, but if he looks awful this year, it wouldn't be a terrible idea to draft another qb if the right one falls to them.

I see the Bucs being better overall next year, but they really don't match up well with the other teams in their division.

Their defense will struggle, specifically against the pass and they play a juggernaut offense in the Saints twice, the Panthers showed last year they can generate big plays and the Falcons can be explosive as well.

The Bucs' best hope is to ride Martin and Blount behind that big o-line with Nicks strengthening the guard spot and limit Freeman's exposure, particularly early in the season.

Looking at their schedule I can see them being a few games below .500 pretty easily.

6 tough games in the division isn't going to help a new head coach with a relatively young team. Washington won't be a push over this year and the Vikings should be better too, as should the Rams.

The NFC South play the NFC East which is horrible for the Bucs and realistically 3 of the 4 and possibly 4 of the 4 AFC West teams will be favoured over them.

It wouldn't be a shock to see them go 1-5 against the division, 1-3 against the NFC East, 2-2 against the AFC West and even if they beat the Rams and Vikings that still works out at a 6-10 season and that could be optimistic.

I think though Freeman is safe, unless he really plays poorly

Thecollegedropout
07-11-2012, 03:18 PM
AFC:
1) NE
2) PIT
3) HOU
4) KC
5) NYJ
6) DEN

NFC:
1) GB
2) PHI
3) SF
4) ATL
5) CHI
6) DAL

5 new teams is right there usually with how it works every year.

Knicks and Bucs
07-19-2012, 03:40 PM
I see the Bucs being better overall next year, but they really don't match up well with the other teams in their division.

Their defense will struggle, specifically against the pass and they play a juggernaut offense in the Saints twice, the Panthers showed last year they can generate big plays and the Falcons can be explosive as well.

The Bucs' best hope is to ride Martin and Blount behind that big o-line with Nicks strengthening the guard spot and limit Freeman's exposure, particularly early in the season.

Looking at their schedule I can see them being a few games below .500 pretty easily.

6 tough games in the division isn't going to help a new head coach with a relatively young team. Washington won't be a push over this year and the Vikings should be better too, as should the Rams.

The NFC South play the NFC East which is horrible for the Bucs and realistically 3 of the 4 and possibly 4 of the 4 AFC West teams will be favoured over them.

It wouldn't be a shock to see them go 1-5 against the division, 1-3 against the NFC East, 2-2 against the AFC West and even if they beat the Rams and Vikings that still works out at a 6-10 season and that could be optimistic.

I think though Freeman is safe, unless he really plays poorly

Well, they wont draft any garbage like David Amerson, Star Loutele, or any of the garbage DEs. So I do not have to worry about that.

onejayhawk
07-19-2012, 07:57 PM
NE
Houston
Baltimore
KC
San Diego
Buffalo

Dallas
GB
Atlanta
St Louis
Philly
NO

J

bigbluedefense
07-19-2012, 08:00 PM
I'm surprised so many people think the Giants won't make the playoffs. This 2013 team on paper will be the most talented team we've had since 86

vidae
07-19-2012, 08:19 PM
I'm surprised so many people think the Giants won't make the playoffs. This 2013 team on paper will be the most talented team we've had since 86

Same thing with KC, sans the QB position. It might be the most talented team we've had since our Super Bowl team.

Giantsfan1080
07-19-2012, 08:29 PM
I'm surprised so many people think the Giants won't make the playoffs. This 2013 team on paper will be the most talented team we've had since 86

Better this way. We can act like assholes if we do well.