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Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 02:49 PM
If you can track multiple people on the same night, why didn't you do that every night?

He was motivated I'd guess.

BeerBaron
07-27-2012, 02:49 PM
Well this is all very confusing. ******* Silencer.

Unvote: Renji

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 02:50 PM
Seriously D? It probably means he was motivated which is a common in mafia games.

Yes, he was.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 02:50 PM
Renji needs to reveal himself!

BeerBaron
07-27-2012, 02:51 PM
I had no idea what it did... thus confusing me how you did.

I was told what it did when I got it. I assumed the gifter would have known.

Alright, so we essentially have two main options:

2. BeerBaron - If IBC gifted him his "Poking Device," what is your role BB? Want to go into more detail?

I explained my role, a Fool, previously. The vigilante kill came from the "Poker" thing I was gifted. I wanted to not get lynched and use it, but it wasn't a full blown lie....I did have a kill to use.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 02:52 PM
I'm also pretty sure vidae is silenced, lol. I'm talking to him about the Steelers elsewhere.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 02:54 PM
OK so...

vidae claims 2x investigator and uses it to investigate BB two nights in a row? First night he comes back evil, second night he is silenced?

BB claims fool/1x vigilante and Cain comes out saying he gifted him the kill.

GOW is seen targeting CJ the night he dies, role unknown.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 02:55 PM
Upon further review and some clarification from SP Renji is our guy. No doubt about it.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 02:55 PM
Forgot vidae came up inconclusive from CJ's investigation. Something isn't adding up here. Lot's of things to digest...

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 02:57 PM
I'll trust broth here.

Vote: GOW

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 02:57 PM
OK so...

vidae claims 2x investigator and uses it to investigate BB two nights in a row? First night he comes back evil, second night he is silenced?

BB claims fool/1x vigilante and Cain comes out saying he gifted him the kill.

GOW is seen targeting CJ the night he dies, role unknown.

Where was it stated he targeted BB twice? I think that was just broth kind of confusing explanation.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 02:58 PM
Forgot vidae came up inconclusive from CJ's investigation. Something isn't adding up here. Lot's of things to digest...

I feel confident we can deal with BB/vidae tomorrow. If broth says:

Upon further review and some clarification from SP Renji is our guy. No doubt about it.

I'd rather go with that and get vidae able to be back here to weigh in.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 02:58 PM
Night One: Track JDR
JRD did nothing
Night Two: Track Gonzo
Gonzo did nothing

MOTIVATED!!!
Night Three: Track Vidae & Renji
Vidae took action against BB
Renji took action against ME!
MOTIVATED AGAIN! clock ran out I'll get to use it tomorrow
Night Four: Track Renji
Renji targeted CJ
This is what happened

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 02:58 PM
Can I talk?

Im the watcher. I watched Broth. I know 3 people who targeted Broth, i know he and CJ were targeting jrd night one. Night two i watched jbond but a person who visitied jbond also visited broth so im pretty sure that person isnt the silencer.

The silencer is either Bantx or Shane, both targeting Broth night two. I for one think they are both bad. one to silence, one to kill, the third person to protect.


No one targeted CJ, so im pretty sure there was a ninja kill or something

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 02:58 PM
It also sounds like Shane is hinting strongly as the motivator... Just to add to the list of roles.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 02:58 PM
Where was it stated he targeted BB twice? I think that was just broth kind of confusing explanation.

Yeah, Todd is off here.

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 02:59 PM
bantx is the silencer then.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 03:00 PM
Where was it stated he targeted BB twice? I think that was just broth kind of confusing explanation.

Ya that whole part threw me off haha. Leave it to broth to broth everything up!

Anyways I'd like to hear from Renji but this looks bad.

Unvote: BeerBaron

Vote: Renji

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 03:00 PM
Alright I am about to get in a car for 5-6 hours... ill try to check back.

Unvote: BB

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 03:00 PM
Do people actually update this thread and see if people posted?

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:00 PM
It also sounds like Shane is hinting strongly as the motivator... Just to add to the list of roles.

I'm glad someone caught on, lol.


Alright, I want to see from broth why he felt for sure Renji is the guy. But I didn't silence broth and I've been hinting at my role for two days (if anyone picked up on it), so it has to be Bantx if Renji is telling the truth.

Unvote: GOW

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 03:00 PM
Vote Count:

GOW (2) - D-Unit, Todd
BB (1) - Todd
bantx (1) - Shane

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

I think that's correct.

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 03:02 PM
i mean there was one other person going for broth but that person also targeted you the night before. I dont know what he is but he knows. He might be evil. might be a protector. Should i reveal?

BeerBaron
07-27-2012, 03:02 PM
i mean there was one other person going for broth but that person also targeted you the night before. I dont know what he is but he knows. He might be evil. might be a protector. Should i reveal?

I say lay all the cards on the table because this is a massive clusterfuck right now.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 03:02 PM
Ugh

Unvote: GOW

This is officially a giant cluster**** and I have a boatload of work to do fml.

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 03:03 PM
I say lay all the cards on the table because this is a massive clusterfuck right now.
i dont want to hear mafia

BeerBaron
07-27-2012, 03:03 PM
i dont want to hear mafia

If you're so confident, vote for me. Don't play coy.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:03 PM
i mean there was one other person going for broth but that person also targeted you the night before. I dont know what he is but he knows. He might be evil. might be a protector. Should i reveal?

At this point, we are down to the wire. I think the best thing to do is take all the information into account and see what is going on. If you really think he is absolutely good, then keep it to yourself. If this could help us figure things out exactly, then I say reveal it.

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 03:04 PM
also i have to go in like 5 minutes. I had the graduation party today and im going out for the night

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 03:05 PM
At this point, we are down to the wire. I think the best thing to do is take all the information into account and see what is going on. If you really think he is absolutely good, then keep it to yourself. If this could help us figure things out exactly, then I say reveal it.
it was fenikz

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:05 PM
Yeah, I am heading to dinner and the casino soon myself.

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 03:05 PM
Vote Count:

GOW (1) - D-Unit
BB (1) - Todd
bantx (1) - Shane

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

I think that's correct.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 03:07 PM
So Renji who killed CJ?

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:07 PM
it was fenikz

Alright, in that case, I'd be surprised if he was bad.

Alright, since I have to go soon, I'm going to stick with my Bantx vote. I can motivate, I used it on broth, I think he can confirm my story/has confirmed my story at the very least. I've tried to hint at it for this very instance as I assumed broth would be watched and if he was silenced/killed/whatever, I knew I'd be a suspect in that case. I hope people can go back and read my posts and realize this is what I've been hinting at.

Vote: Bantx

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 03:07 PM
My pm said no one targeted CJ. So im guessing ninja

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 03:08 PM
Vote Bantx

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:08 PM
So Renji who killed CJ?

He said he didn't see anyone target CJ.

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 03:10 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (3) - Shane, GOW, BB
GOW (1) - D-Unit
BB (1) - Todd

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

BeerBaron
07-27-2012, 03:11 PM
**** it, I'm driving 1.5 hours home then going out to dinner with the fam. Do what you think is right.

Vote: Bantx

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:13 PM
I do have one question about fenikz, if he IS a good role (protector, etc.) why didn't he target CJ last night?

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:13 PM
I think we decide between BB/vidae tomorrow and figure out that situation IMO.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 03:16 PM
Is there anyone who fits a ninja role in friends?

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 03:16 PM
bantx is just a silencer. we need to lynch a killer.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:16 PM
Is there anyone who fits a ninja role in friends?

Julie perhaps?

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:17 PM
That would be a bit racially insensitive, but funny, haha.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:18 PM
bantx is just a silencer. we need to lynch a killer.

He is mafia. Mafia can kill. The kills won't stop, and we've been limited to one kill per night the last two nights (not including BB's poking device). We still have the numbers if we take care of Mafia/SK each day from here on out.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 03:18 PM
Is there anyone who fits a ninja role in friends?

This might be a stretch but possibly Carol because she was silent about being a lesbian?

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 03:18 PM
That would be a bit racially insensitive, but funny, haha.

Just a bit, ahaha!

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 03:19 PM
Oops, I'm an idiot, I thought that said silencer.

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:19 PM
i am not the silencer i was responsible for Broth being motivated

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 03:19 PM
Okay, so both Shane and Bantx claimed motivator.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:20 PM
i am not the silencer i was responsible for Broth being motivated

Well, that's an outright lie.

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:20 PM
i used it on him 2 nights in a row broth can confirm jbond only said he did it once

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:20 PM
If you give me some time, I'll show you proof. I basically claimed it yesterday in a subtle way for EXACTLY this type of instance.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 03:21 PM
This game went form no information to a clusterfuck of information really quickly.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:22 PM
i used it on him 2 nights in a row broth can confirm jbond only said he did it once

When did I say that? I only said I motivated broth when he said. Didn't say I didn't do it more.

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:24 PM
Broth can confirm it i said it. If i visited broth twice why isn't he silenced today? When you claim im the "silencer".

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 03:25 PM
i used it on him 2 nights in a row broth can confirm jbond only said he did it once

Wait now I'm confused...Broth never said he was motivated two times in a row according to his recollection of his night actions.

Broth stop brothing this game up and post you night actions in their entirety from Night 1 to now!

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:25 PM
i used it the night before he was silenced and last night

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 03:27 PM
vidae - claims 2x investigator
sbh -
ngata
JR - could be godfather
Broth - tracker
Snicho
GOW claims watcher
Shane - claims motivator
Todd
fenikz
IBC
Bulldogs
BB -both silenced
bantx - silencer???
UK
D-Unit

This is where we are now.

JR didn't perform a night action night 1 so he is either with the town, the godfather, or a passive role like shield. I think the odds of it are slim.

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 03:27 PM
unvote: GOW
vote: Shane

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 03:28 PM
I was motivated two nights in a row.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 03:28 PM
Okay, it would seem that if we bounce everybody's results off each other, we can determine if bantx or Shane is the motivator. Why don't the people who have revealed post their results one more time listed by night so we can get this a bit more organized.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:28 PM
Here are a few things from my end on Day 4 I believe.

My hope is that there is going to be some info today.
I don't believe you, but I want to hold off on lynching BB to hear from broth.

Not as much as I thought, but especially the first statement was a hint that by motivating broth, he'd have info. And I have been the BIGGEST backer of broth before today, going at it with vidae for broth.


Today:

I'd imagine it is obvious how broth got more than one track sometimes :wave:

To IBC saying it was probably being motivated.
Yes, he was.


Bantx is lying. If people want to kill me, you lose the motivator and Bantx just gets killed tomorrow. He's just trying to get one more free kill.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:29 PM
i used it the night before he was silenced and last night

No, I did. That is exactly what I did. Ugh.

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:30 PM
now you claim to do what i did lol

Vote: Shane

trust me on this one guys

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 03:30 PM
vidae - claims 2x investigator
sbh -
ngata
JR - could be godfather
Broth - tracker
Snicho
GOW claims watcher
Shane - claims motivator
Todd
fenikz
IBC
Bulldogs
BB -both silenced
bantx - silencer???
UK
D-Unit

This is where we are now.

JR didn't perform a night action night 1 so he is either with the town, the godfather, or a passive role like shield. I think the odds of it are slim.

A lot of those people are dead...never change broth, never change.

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Here are a few things from my end on Day 4 I believe.




Not as much as I thought, but especially the first statement was a hint that by motivating broth, he'd have info. And I have been the BIGGEST backer of broth before today, going at it with vidae for broth.


Today:



To IBC saying it was probably being motivated.



Bantx is lying. If people want to kill me, you lose the motivator and Bantx just gets killed tomorrow. He's just trying to get one more free kill.
It's so much funner to lynch you though.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 03:31 PM
OK I want both of you to say who you motivated DAY 1 ONLY

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:32 PM
I motivated Brodeur

and it was Night 1, lol

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 03:34 PM
Bantx who did you motivate night 1?

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:35 PM
i motivated no one until the past 2 nights

I didnt want to risk motivated a mafia member so i held off until someone came out

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 03:35 PM
I like bantx's answer.

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 03:36 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (3) - Shane, GOW, BB
Shane (2) - D-Unit, bantx
GOW (1) - D-Unit
BB (1) - Todd

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 03:36 PM
last post:

jr --> cj and broth
shane --> fenikz
broth --> shane fenki bantx
cj --> no one

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:41 PM
I like bantx's answer.

I recognize you just want to lynch me because you dislike me, but seriously, I have been hinting/claiming this for two days before we knew there was a motivator.

Also, with (I'm guessing,) 4 mafia members and an SK left, missing this vote means we have to hit all 5 in a row from now on in the game if they keep killing. Take your time with this, and do the right thing by lynching bantx.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 03:42 PM
last post:

jr --> cj and broth
shane --> fenikz
broth --> shane fenki bantx
cj --> no one

Night One: Track JDR
JRD did nothing
Night Two: Track Gonzo
Gonzo did nothing

MOTIVATED!!!
Night Three: Track Vidae & Renji
Vidae took action against BB
Renji took action against ME!
MOTIVATED AGAIN! clock ran out I'll get to use it tomorrow
Night Four: Track Renji
Renji targeted CJ
This is what happened

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 03:44 PM
Shane who did you motivate night 2?

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:46 PM
why would you even motivate blindly? that would be a bad move on your part. You happen to motivate Brodie when he's dead? Likely story when you're being pressed.

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 03:47 PM
I recognize you just want to lynch me because you dislike me, but seriously, I have been hinting/claiming this for two days before we knew there was a motivator.

Also, with (I'm guessing,) 4 mafia members and an SK left, missing this vote means we have to hit all 5 in a row from now on in the game if they keep killing. Take your time with this, and do the right thing by lynching bantx.
Hahaha. You know it's the other way around. I'm just giving you some of your own medicine. Now you know, I how I feel when you say stuff like:

And I'll gladly follow a D-Unit lynch train just for fun, lol.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:47 PM
Night 1: Brodeur
Night 2: SuperMcGee
Night 3: Broth
Night 4: Broth

There you have it.

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 03:48 PM
Night 1: Brodeur
Night 2: SuperMcGee
Night 3: Broth
Night 4: Broth

There you have it.
SuperMcGee died on Night 2. Guess motivating him didn't prove much use.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:48 PM
why would you even motivate blindly? that would be a bad move on your part. You happen to motivate Brodie when he's dead? Likely story when you're being pressed.

Because I'm not stupid and can at least realize 1 or 2 people who are for the town on Days 1 and 2.


Yes, half the town is dead, of course half the people I motivated would be dead. Keep trying to come up with ways to weasel out of this. You are getting lynched today or tomorrow either way.

I almost wish we had someone else to def. lynch so broth can track both of us tomorrow and see your ********, lol.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:49 PM
SuperMcGee died on Night 2. Guess motivating him didn't prove much use.

It didn't really work out, no, but obviously I wasn't the only one who thought McGee had a power role if the mafia or SK went after him.

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:50 PM
Really now that's 2 people that happen to be dead after you motivate them? Likely story.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 03:51 PM
Since Brody doesn't have a power, would he have been he was motivated? If he was, maybe his fellow mason (unless it was CJ) could verify Shane's story.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 03:53 PM
Really now that's 2 people that happen to be dead after you motivate them? Likely story.

At least I'm being honest about it instead of just saying "no one." Also a likely story. If I wanted to weasel out of this, I would picked JRD, someone who has been seen not targeting anyone and is probably a townie. I'm just being 100% honest here. We'll let the town decide, I think my case is strong

bantx
07-27-2012, 03:55 PM
I can say you're trying to weasel your way out of this. Your case is not strong you motivate 2 people who died and you call that a strong case? Blind motivation at that because you have a feeling that you know who is for the town? Do you know how silly that sounds? Your claims holds no weight for your "strong" case.

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 04:00 PM
last post:

jr --> cj and broth
shane --> fenikz
broth --> shane fenki bantx
cj --> no one
What is GOW saying here?

That he watched Shane target fenikz on Night 2? That could contradict Shane saying he targeted McGee on Night 2.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 04:03 PM
Vote: Shane

Nice catch D, that's the nail in the coffin.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 04:08 PM
What is GOW saying here?

That he watched Shane target fenikz on Night 2? That could contradict Shane saying he targeted McGee on Night 2.

No, fenikz targeted me. READ PLEASE

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 04:09 PM
I can say you're trying to weasel your way out of this. Your case is not strong you motivate 2 people who died and you call that a strong case? Blind motivation at that because you have a feeling that you know who is for the town? Do you know how silly that sounds? Your claims holds no weight for your "strong" case.

It's not blind. I play the game well, I pick up on tendencies. I recognized Brody and McGee as for the town early in the game. I motivated them. If I have a role, I'm going to use it and use it wisely.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 04:09 PM
GOW is a watcher he says. He targeted Shane and fenikz targeted him.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 04:11 PM
Unvote: Shane

Read that wrong. I honestly don't know what to believe at this point. I'm going to be away for a bit but I'll make a decision when I get back.

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 04:13 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (3) - Shane, GOW, BB
Shane (2) - D-Unit, bantx

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 04:15 PM
Bleh Unvote: BB

bantx
07-27-2012, 04:16 PM
It's not blind. I play the game well, I pick up on tendencies. I recognized Brody and McGee as for the town early in the game. I motivated them. If I have a role, I'm going to use it and use it wisely.

How can you say it wasn't blind?! Did you know they didn't have a role? So for future reference just play for the town and you will be trusted by Shane always.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 04:22 PM
How can you say it wasn't blind?! Did you know they didn't have a role? So for future reference just play for the town and you will be trusted by Shane always.

I knew they weren't mafia, that's all I needed to try and motivate them.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 04:24 PM
I'm going to go with my gut because it doesn't appear that there is any certain way to settle this. If bantx truly is the motivator, we lynch Shane tomorrow.

Vote bantx

bantx
07-27-2012, 04:26 PM
you lose one more good guy and shane has a shot at another kill that will lead you to nothing because he's already been proven not motivated from my death.

I can motivate broth again tonight proving i am a motivator.

bantx
07-27-2012, 04:27 PM
wait he said he's going to use it tonight since he ran out of time. Jbond claims he motivated to people that are now dead and he gets no suspicion?

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 04:29 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (4) - Shane, GOW, BB, JR
Shane (2) - D-Unit, bantx

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 04:59 PM
I have to go now. Once again, I am confident in the town to make the right choice here.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 05:14 PM
Alright well we'll find out who's lying tomorrow I guess.

Vote: Lynch Bantx

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 05:16 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (4) - Shane, BB, JR, Todd
Shane (2) - bantx, GOW

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 05:29 PM
I only intended to vote shane temporarily.

unvote: Shane

I still would rather lynch someone more shady.

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 05:44 PM
unlynch
lynch Shane
im really not that sure and there was really no way for bantx to know about that double motivation

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 05:53 PM
im really not that sure and there was really no way for bantx to know about that double motivation

I think you might actually be right about this. I'm going to go back and check on this.

Unvote bantz

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 05:59 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (3) - Shane, BB, Todd
Shane (2) - bantx, GOW

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

bantx
07-27-2012, 06:02 PM
i told you broth can vouch on me for this he never mentioned about be motivated 2 days in a row and how would I be silencer and know that? Jbond only said that after I said it and never stated he motivated twice in his first few votes where he claimed motivator

fenikz
07-27-2012, 06:05 PM
seems pretty clear to me that JBond and BB are evil

Vote: JBond

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 06:06 PM
i told you broth can vouch on me for this he never mentioned about be motivated 2 days in a row and how would I be silencer and know that? Jbond only said that after I said it and never stated he motivated twice in his first few votes where he claimed motivator
Can you put together the timeline of those posts?

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 06:06 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (3) - Shane, BB, Todd, JR
Shane (3) - bantx, GOW, fenikz

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 06:18 PM
Night One: Track JDR
JRD did nothing
Night Two: Track Gonzo
Gonzo did nothing

MOTIVATED!!!
Night Three: Track Vidae & Renji
Vidae took action against BB
Renji took action against ME!
MOTIVATED AGAIN! clock ran out I'll get to use it tomorrow
Night Four: Track Renji
Renji targeted CJ
This is what happened

At 2:48 broth said this.

i used it on him 2 nights in a row broth can confirm jbond only said he did it once

At 3:20, bantx said this.

i told you broth can vouch on me for this he never mentioned about be motivated 2 days in a row and how would I be silencer and know that? Jbond only said that after I said it and never stated he motivated twice in his first few votes where he claimed motivator

He did mention that he was motivated twice before you ever said anything. And let's just talk about how dumb it would be for Shane to lie about being the motivator. The only way that could have worked is if they rolecopped the real motivator and then silenced him today. And he mentioned that he motivated Brody and McGee. That would be dumb to say two names if he was lying because what if GOW or someone else said "that can't be true because I was motivated night two." Bantx saying he didn't use it the first two nights is a much better lie.

Bantx is obviously lying here.

Vote bantx

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 06:18 PM
And with that great piece of investigating, I'm off to see The Dark Knight Rises in IMAX.

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 06:27 PM
And with that great piece of investigating, I'm off to see The Dark Knight Rises in IMAX.
Great job. Enjoy the show!

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 06:30 PM
unlynch

yea didnt see that, was trying to get people off of my back

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 06:51 PM
and i blame broth for telling us all the useless information without using it to get to know who the motivator is.

bantx
07-27-2012, 07:02 PM
I mustve missed that post I just saw all those post saying I was the silencer and I came out and said further seeing that Jbond also claimed it.

People still ignore the fact the the 2 people jbond claimed to motivate are now dead?

If I do indeed get voted out on, Look at Jbond first, IBC, and BB.

bantx
07-27-2012, 07:04 PM
I don't know what else to tell you, all of Jbond's claims were total bs. Especially claiming to motivate people that are dead who could've been mafia, but he plays the game so great that he knows who's good or who's bad just by reading their post.

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 07:12 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (4) - Shane, BB, Todd, JR
Shane (3) - bantx, fenikz, GOW

With 13 alive, 7 is needed for a majority.

Gay Ork Wang
07-27-2012, 07:12 PM
vote shane

idk, it doesnt sit well with me for some reason

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 07:35 PM
Can we get an update on how the town feels about BB? I thought we could recruit him, but IBC said his power to kill was gifted. Is he out of it, since he said he killed killswitch? And so nobody is worried about him anymore?

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 07:38 PM
and i blame broth for telling us all the useless information without using it to get to know who the motivator is.

This is 100% broth's fault. I'm going to go through voting records see if I can find something.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 07:39 PM
Can we get an update on how the town feels about BB? I thought we could recruit him, but IBC said his power to kill was gifted. Is he out of it, since he said he killed killswitch? And so nobody is worried about him anymore?

Well right now Either Shane or bantx is evil there is no doubt about it. We are focusing on that for now.

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 07:54 PM
Well right now Either Shane or bantx is evil there is no doubt about it. We are focusing on that for now.
What is your perception of BB?

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 08:00 PM
What is your perception of BB?

I don't know what to think about BB. But either he or Vidae is likely evil but I have NO idea why BB would come out as a fool because if he was there was going to be 0 chance of him winning now. But on the other hand what are the chances we have a 2x investigator and a full time investigator. I can only confirm that Vidae visited BB not what he did.

Snicho
07-27-2012, 08:30 PM
The question is... How is JBond still alive on day 5. My conclusion would be that he is mafia. Right now Im leaning more towards voting him then Bantx.

bantx
07-27-2012, 09:46 PM
Let's get this going guys

Snicho
07-27-2012, 09:50 PM
Let's get this going guys

Vote Shane

I think that makes it 5 for shane.. 3 or 4 for bantx..

D-Unit
07-27-2012, 09:56 PM
Shane motivating 2 dead people is indeed criminal.

vote: Shane

Bulldogs
07-27-2012, 10:09 PM
Vote Count:

bantx (4) - Shane, BB, Todd, JR
Shane (5) - bantx, fenikz, GOW, Snicho, D-Unit

With 13 alive, 7 votes are needed for a majority.

SuperPacker
07-27-2012, 10:23 PM
If a majority hasn't been reached by the time I wake up, multiple games of Russian Roulette will be played.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 10:28 PM
I can't believe this thing is still open. What the hell is going on? But since it is still open, I think this is where we stand.

Fenikz, broth, GOW, IBC, JDR, and either Shane or bantx is good.

Either Shane or bantx is mafia. Add in ngata and that's two mafia.

I think we all believe that there started out with five mafia and a serial killer. Those not 100% are Vidae, sbh, snicho, Todd, BB, and D-unit. So by my count, half of those are evil.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 10:34 PM
Actually, 2/3rd are evil. My guess? Vidae, D-Unit, Snicho, and Todd.

Snicho
07-27-2012, 10:40 PM
Actually, 2/3rd are evil. My guess? Vidae, D-Unit, Snicho, and Todd.

I am not mafia. But I do think Vidae is evil. The others, not sure about just yet, still need to think it over.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 10:43 PM
I am not mafia. But I do think Vidae is evil. The others, not sure about just yet, still need to think it over.

Vidae seems like the serial killer. He may actually be the better kill because it would guarantee one fewer kill. But I suspect the mafia is role blocking him to ensure they are not killed.

fenikz
07-27-2012, 10:44 PM
well the serial killer has no chance unless he starts killing some mafia members *wink wink*

Snicho
07-27-2012, 10:48 PM
Yea Viddy, start hitting the mafia, then we might decide to keep you!

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 10:51 PM
I don't like Bantx at this point but I also don't like how Shane is still alive day 5.

I just got to my parents after a 6 hour drive so I will be holding off seeing as I am not in the most logical state.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 10:52 PM
Ok so here's what I get from shane

1st he defended renji. It would have been a very easily defend-able lynch when Renji had only 1 post. If Shane didn't come out and say that Renji was sick he would have likely been the lynch. Not very mafia like behavior.

On the other hand

Shane has almost instantly followed me every time I lynched. He voted for JR after me. He voted for Vidae when I said it and also voted for Renji after I said it (which is 100% understandable considering I though I had him dead to rights)
I've got to go back to day 3 and see but this could be a gimmick or Shane has more respect for me as a player or he is evil and looked towards me to be the scapegoat.

Finally the way the mafia has played this game screams Shane to me. I have to re-read day three then take a look at bantx

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 10:53 PM
So Vidae, broth, IBC, and sbh haven't voted. Vidae is silenced, so he won't vote. Sbh is driving to NC, so maybe he can't vote either. But we really need broth and IBC to vote because if this goes to RR, I'm going to lose my ****.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 10:54 PM
Ok so here's what I get from shane

1st he defended renji. It would have been a very easily defend-able lynch when Renji had only 1 post. If Shane didn't come out and say that Renji was sick he would have likely been the lynch. Not very mafia like behavior.

On the other hand

Shane has almost instantly followed me every time I lynched. He voted for JR after me. He voted for Vidae when I said it and also voted for Renji after I said it (which is 100% understandable considering I though I had him dead to rights)
I've got to go back to day 3 and see but this could be a gimmick or Shane has more respect for me as a player or he is evil and looked towards me to be the scapegoat.

Finally the way the mafia has played this game screams Shane to me. I have to re-read day three then take a look at bantx

Are you talking about Day One because Shane voted for me first?

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 10:56 PM
Are you talking about Day One because Shane voted for me first?

No I voted first. But he brought you up

I've been getting that vibe from JR for a bit now. I wouldn't mind following your suspicions on this.

Vote JR

I don't necessarily think it is minor (if SP never said it at least,) and could still be a slip-up on jr's part. For me, this is good enough. I'll vote him for now, but with RR the way that it is, if it comes down to it, I'll go with what needs done.

Vote: Jrdrylie

And also since he wouldn't let me tweet his wife about the game!

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 10:57 PM
JR what main characters have pets in Friends?

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:01 PM
JR what main characters have pets in Friends?

Ross, Chandler, and Joey.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:05 PM
Ross, Chandler, and Joey.

Ok so Ross had the monkey. What was Chandler and Joey's pet?

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:06 PM
Ok so Ross had the monkey. What was Chandler and Joey's pet?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FWNwyCD7L7w/TOVqUM5-WaI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/L_i8KuuRhak/s1600/Imagen%2B2.png

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:18 PM
I guess people are lynching because:

A. I'm still alive (if this is the case, then I am done with mafia for a long time. Either I die early, or if I live, I get lynched because I'm alive).

or

B. I targeted 2 dead people with my motivations. We've lost 10 people, not quite 50%, but close. It is bound I'd target a dead person or two. I guess I should have just lied and said I targeted no one? Seems like that would have made me less suspicious to just lie.

If you are going to lynch me, go ahead, but I imagine bantx and the mafia will be rolling in laughter at the town for that.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:19 PM
Shane was also the first to vote for Ngata

bantx
07-27-2012, 11:19 PM
I'm restating what I say because this is getting no where let's get the votes going we need 2 more to for shane.

He claims to motivate 2 people who died early in the game with no evidence of them being for the town. They happen to be dead now and that's going unseen? Pay attention to the people who refuse to see that and say anything about it.

Can we get a list of people's role who's come out so far?

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:20 PM
I'm going to test something.

Vote Vidae

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:22 PM
I'm restating what I say because this is getting no where let's get the votes going we need 2 more to for shane.

He claims to motivate 2 people who died early in the game with no evidence of them being for the town. They happen to be dead now and that's going unseen? Pay attention to the people who refuse to see that and say anything about it.

Can we get a list of people's role who's come out so far?

It was posted earlier by broth or JR. Dude, go back and read Brody and McGee's posts. I don't have to have people come out and yell I HAVE A ROLE, I AM FOR THE TOWN for me to recognize how people play and that some people are for the town. Just because there are people who sit with their thumb up their butt until someone with a power role tells them how to vote doesn't mean I should. I went with my gut and I wasn't wrong. Maybe they weren't "power roles" (though Brody was a big one,) but I figured out pretty easily they were for the town.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:24 PM
Are we 100% sure vidae is the SK? Broth, I know you mentioned before you thought he wasn't, but it seems to be the indication. If so, there may be a better way to solve this.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:25 PM
Are we 100% sure vidae is the SK? Broth, I know you mentioned before you thought he wasn't, but it seems to be the indication. If so, there may be a better way to solve this.

That's the only thing I can think of as to why he came up inconclusive.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:26 PM
HOLY **** HOLY **** HOLY ****! I think I figured something out.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:26 PM
HOLY **** HOLY **** HOLY ****! I think I figured something out.

Do tell please!!!!

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:28 PM
HOLY **** HOLY **** HOLY ****! I think I figured something out.

Let's hear it! I will share my plan if need be.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:28 PM
Shane was also the first to vote for Ngata

I don't want this to be page trapped.

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 11:32 PM
I am going to wait to see what broth says but I think I am ready to cast my vote.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:32 PM
Bah I got my nights mixed up. I thought that vidae attacked BB when killswitch was poked to death. but that is not what happened. So unless the SK got two kills one night then vidae can't be the SK

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 11:34 PM
Okay... So that helps to clear Vid.

I am exhausted... so here goes nothing.

Vote: Bantx

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 11:35 PM
Bah I got my nights mixed up. I thought that vidae attacked BB when killswitch was poked to death. but that is not what happened. So unless the SK got two kills one night then vidae can't be the SK

Wait can you explain this more in detail? I can't say I'm following.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:35 PM
Bah I got my nights mixed up. I thought that vidae attacked BB when killswitch was poked to death. but that is not what happened. So unless the SK got two kills one night then vidae can't be the SK

I'm not sure I'm following you here.

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 11:35 PM
Wait can you explain this more in detail? I can't say I'm following.

Hes Broth no one follows...

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:35 PM
Blah, nevermind then.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:36 PM
Is there anyone other than broth who doesn't think vidae is the SK? lol

Snicho
07-27-2012, 11:36 PM
Yep, Im lost. I still think he is the SK.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:37 PM
Shane lets hear your plan?

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 11:37 PM
So we're at 5 a piece for Shane/Bantx...who hasn't voted again?

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:38 PM
So we're at 5 a piece for Shane/Bantx...who hasn't voted again?

broth, sbh, and Vidae

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:38 PM
broth, is there a reason you asked me about pets?

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 11:38 PM
broth, sbh, and Vidae

IBC just voted so we're waiting on the other two by the looks of it.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 11:39 PM
Err nvm I thought you said IBC instead of broth for some reason.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:39 PM
Wait can you explain this more in detail? I can't say I'm following.

Ok IF vidae targeted BB the night killswitch was poked to death (which means there was no SK kill that night. Then vidae would have been SK BB would have been the GF and we could kill one of them and do a test to find out which of shane or bantx were good. but that isn't what happened

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 11:41 PM
I don't think Vid is the SK... Call it a hunch.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:41 PM
broth, is there a reason you asked me about pets?

Well I thought that since the monkey was in the game with an ability I thought that it could be a gimmick that a pet would have to follow a certain character in votes. But it must not work that way when I voted for vidae shane didn't change his vote .

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:43 PM
I don't think Vid is the SK... Call it a hunch.

He's not BB is alive and the SK killed that night. Vidae is cleared.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:44 PM
Shane lets hear your plan?

It's a bit crazy (and maybe risky, see the bottom), but I THINK it could work, depending on a few things.



We lynch vidae (or whoever else we truly believe are bad).


Tonight, we do the following:

Bantx and I target someone who isn't broth

Broth tracks both Bantx and I

GOW watches broth (just to be safe)

And is fenikz def. a protector? Has he said that? I know GOW alluded to that earlier. If fenikz is such and protects GOW, broth will have the info we need


We come back tomorrow, broth asks both bantx and I who we targeted. If we lie, we get lynched. If we tell the truth, whoever says the person who is silenced gets lynched.


The worst case scenario is bantx and I target the same person and we are just back where we are today, nothing lost.

The only issues with this plan:

1. If the mafia DOES have auto-ninja kills, they could just kill broth, GOW won't see it and we will be a bit boned. That s my biggest fear with this, and probably why it is too risky

2. The mafia can roleblock. No indication of this yet

3. If fenikz isn't a protector, the mafia could kill GOW and silence broth, so we would need that to be authenticated by fenikz first before committing to this.


Are there any other holes in the plan? Just something to consider as an alternative to people making their choice.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:44 PM
If you don't think vidae is the SK, then obviously this plan isn't worth it either.

Snicho
07-27-2012, 11:45 PM
The interesting thing is, mafia has been hitting people with roles, and Shane says he is able to tell after the first days who has a power role, theyve been pretty spot on. Considering this, I would not be surprised if Shane was mafia. Also, mafia have been playing smart, and really well.

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 11:45 PM
Well kinda more than a hunch. BB said he is a Fool which I believe is a role that is akin to a Miller. This is how he worded it though.

Jesters want to be lynched. Fools have to visit a person and they die if the person dies. Shane had that role as quina in the ff game.

Idk I just don't think Vid is the SK.

bantx
07-27-2012, 11:46 PM
I'll take that plan is there a possibility of 2 motivators? and one of us got framed?

I don't know I just have a feeling we'll lose someone important with this plan

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:46 PM
The interesting thing is, mafia has been hitting people with roles, and Shane says he is able to tell after the first days who has a power role, theyve been pretty spot on. Considering this, I would not be surprised if Shane was mafia. Also, mafia have been playing smart, and really well.

I never said I can tell who has a power role. I said I can tell that some people are for the town and not against it. I pinpointed Brody and McGee as two people def. for the town early in the game. See my track record, I think it speaks for itself on this.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:47 PM
We would have to tell you two who to motivate. One would motivate GOW the other fenikz. GOW would watch Fenikz and me Fenikz would protect himself and renji. Leaves me with my ass in the wind but lets face it I've been pretty much useless in this game anyway.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:47 PM
Err nvm I thought you said IBC instead of broth for some reason.

I edited it.

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:48 PM
We would have to tell you two who to motivate. One would motivate GOW the other fenikz. GOW would watch Fenikz and me Fenikz would protect himself and renji. Leaves me with my ass in the wind but lets face it I've been pretty much useless in this game anyway.

I don't think that would work because we would be trusting a mafia member to follow what we tell them.

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 11:49 PM
The interesting thing is, mafia has been hitting people with roles, and Shane says he is able to tell after the first days who has a power role, theyve been pretty spot on. Considering this, I would not be surprised if Shane was mafia. Also, mafia have been playing smart, and really well.

One... Shane is a Motivator and probably a shotted one at that thus making him on the low end of Mafia worries. Same with my role... Things like Investigator, Protector, Tracker, Watcher, Thief should be first. Followed by the secondary power roles like Gifter/ Inventor, Motivator and then to the rest.

CJ, Broth and now Renji should have been the main targets.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:49 PM
I'll take that plan is there a possibility of 2 motivators? and one of us got framed?

I don't know I just have a feeling we'll lose someone important with this plan

well if there were two motivators I would have been doublly motivated and been able to track three people that wasn't it. I was silenced We haven't heard from fenikz today either. that is concerning to me.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 11:49 PM
I just can't get over the fact vidae came up inconclusive in CJ's results. We know CJ can obviously be trusted and there's not tailer/framer that would make it show up inconclusive. If he was roleblocked he wouldn't have received any result at all. I can't think of any other role that shows inconclusive other than the SK. Vidae has also not been leading the discussion like he usually does and I will bet anything he's the SK.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:50 PM
I'll take that plan is there a possibility of 2 motivators? and one of us got framed?

I don't know I just have a feeling we'll lose someone important with this plan

It's possible. But here is what happens. If it is:

Broth=Tracker
GOW=Watcher
Fenikz=Protector


What can the mafia do?

[the following is under the assumption that the mafia can always ninja kill]

They can kill broth, but GOW would have watched him and nab the killer.

The can try to kill GOW but fenikz would protect him

The could kill fenikz, and we lose him, but we nab a mafia member in the process and probably unravel the string.

*shrug* I'm just trying to come up with some alternative for people if they don't want to choose right now. It has its holes, but the town can decide. I am trying to allow broth to know 100% which one of us is lying.

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 11:51 PM
I just can't get over the fact vidae came up inconclusive in CJ's results. We know CJ can obviously be trusted and there's not tailer/framer that would make it show up inconclusive. If he was roleblocked he wouldn't have received any result at all. I can't think of any other role that shows inconclusive other than the SK. Vidae has also not been leading the discussion like he usually does and I will bet anything he's the SK.

Inconclusive can mean Roleblock ya dopes...

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 11:51 PM
well if there were two motivators I would have been doublly motivated and been able to track three people that wasn't it. I was silenced We haven't heard from fenikz today either. that is concerning to me.

Yes, we have. I think vidae and sbh are the only ones we haven't heard from yet but I'm not certain.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 11:52 PM
Inconclusive can mean Roleblock ya dopes...

Wouldn't roleblock just mean no result. Inconclusive in my eyes means neither good, nor evil. We've seen it before, exhibit A being The Wire game.

Brothgar
07-27-2012, 11:53 PM
It's possible. But here is what happens. If it is:

Broth=Tracker
GOW=Watcher
Fenikz=Protector


What can the mafia do?

[the following is under the assumption that the mafia can always ninja kill]

They can kill broth, but GOW would have watched him and nab the killer.

The can try to kill GOW but fenikz would protect him

The could kill fenikz, and we lose him, but we nab a mafia member in the process and probably unravel the string.

*shrug* I'm just trying to come up with some alternative for people if they don't want to choose right now. It has its holes, but the town can decide. I am trying to allow broth to know 100% which one of us is lying.

obviously in that scenario Fenikz would be motivated then he protects himself and Renji. But we have to get this lynch right to do so

fenikz
07-27-2012, 11:53 PM
I protected CJ last night and he died anyways so just throw all your plans out the window

jrdrylie
07-27-2012, 11:54 PM
Can a protector protect himself? I know in some games you can't.

fenikz
07-27-2012, 11:56 PM
Doesn't say I can't

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:56 PM
I protected CJ last night and he died anyways so just throw all your plans out the window

Blah, if the mafia had a ninja AND unblockable kill, that is ridiculous.

bantx
07-27-2012, 11:56 PM
well if there were two motivators I would have been doublly motivated and been able to track three people that wasn't it. I was silenced We haven't heard from fenikz today either. that is concerning to me.

Jbond is trying to buy time with this plan I really doubt there is 2 motivators and his story does not go well with me. Motivating 2 people that happen to die afterwards? Look at Cain whatever happens tonight he's been sticking up for Jbond though out this day.

I'm done trying to convince people the town is scared to vote and we're getting no where.

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:56 PM
I know I didn't allow that in S.S, and unfortunately SP is not awake to ask...

ImBrotherCain
07-27-2012, 11:57 PM
Wouldn't roleblock just mean no result. Inconclusive in my eyes means neither good, nor evil. We've seen it before, exhibit A being The Wire game.

I have previously as a mod said something along those lines to avoid the eventual PM that says "Hey I didn't get a result".

I protected CJ last night and he died anyways so just throw all your plans out the window

Further providing the possibility that there is a Role Blocker. Albeit this means that Fenikz is dead tonight.

Can a protector protect himself? I know in some games you can't.

Most games it is not possible

Shane P. Hallam
07-27-2012, 11:57 PM
Jbond is trying to buy time with this plan I really doubt there is 2 motivators and his story does not go well with me. Motivating 2 people that happen to die afterwards? Look at Cain whatever happens tonight he's been sticking up for Jbond though out this day.

I'm done trying to convince people the town is scared to vote and we're getting no where.

There aren't two motivators. One of us is a motivator (me) one of us is a silencer (you). Please read the plan again and understand that, sheesh.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-27-2012, 11:58 PM
I protected CJ last night and he died anyways so just throw all your plans out the window

Are you a doctor? Only thing I can think of is the mafia and SK both targeted CJ and so it overrides your protection in that case.

Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2012, 12:00 AM
I have previously as a mod said something along those lines to avoid the eventual PM that says "Hey I didn't get a result".



Further providing the possibility that there is a Role Blocker. Albeit this means that Fenikz is dead tonight.



Most games it is not possible

If we don't go with my plan, then it is REALLY up to Renji.

I think fenikz, either way, should protect Renji. Then, Renji has to decide whether to watch fenikz or broth. The mafia has to sweat bullets and try to pick the one that won't be watched. That is, as long as the mafia isn't OP and can just ninja everyone.

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:02 AM
Jbond is trying to buy time with this plan I really doubt there is 2 motivators and his story does not go well with me. Motivating 2 people that happen to die afterwards? Look at Cain whatever happens tonight he's been sticking up for Jbond though out this day.

I'm done trying to convince people the town is scared to vote and we're getting no where.

Wait what? I was proven to be the Inventor... I was 3x. Night one did nothing, Night 2 gave Bulldogs a Race Car Bed, Night 3 gave BB the poking device he used to kill KS with and then last night used my last gift. Which I will not be sharing with whom until that person speaks up.

In my eyes attacking pretty much a proven good guy makes you worse.

jrdrylie
07-28-2012, 12:04 AM
IBC is definitely good and it has been backed up. There is absolutely no reason to look at him.

bantx
07-28-2012, 12:05 AM
well you're sticking up for the wrong person so when you see that I'm not mafia you'll regret sticking up for jbond

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:05 AM
If we don't go with my plan, then it is REALLY up to Renji.

I think fenikz, either way, should protect Renji. Then, Renji has to decide whether to watch fenikz or broth. The mafia has to sweat bullets and try to pick the one that won't be watched. That is, as long as the mafia isn't OP and can just ninja everyone.

Well the problem is that there seems to be a Role Blocker and giving that plan plus now we have outed a motivator, tracker, watcher, protector and investigator.

Good to see we have this thing called discretion... Damn it guys this is why you do not reveal until you are about to die or have some damn crucial information. Its like we are playing Texas Hold 'em and our opponent can see our hand.

It seems like we blew our load too early.

Brothgar
07-28-2012, 12:06 AM
Jbond is trying to buy time with this plan I really doubt there is 2 motivators and his story does not go well with me. Motivating 2 people that happen to die afterwards? Look at Cain whatever happens tonight he's been sticking up for Jbond though out this day.

I'm done trying to convince people the town is scared to vote and we're getting no where.

The town isn't scared only three people haven't voted. Myself SBH and Vidae. One of those two is silenced likely vidae. This vote tells us the fate of the town. I get this right then we will likely win if I don't we lose. I'm pulling every string until I am satisfied. I'd also highly suggest that the SK start killing mafias because you won't win once they take the vote just saying.

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:07 AM
well you're sticking up for the wrong person so when you see that I'm not mafia you'll regret sticking up for jbond

Wouldn't that mean we would kill him tomorrow? I mean isn't that a pretty straight forward thing. If you are good then he dies tomorrow. Its more of just who to kill at this point.

Shane hinted at Motivator for a good long while before you got on and tried to claim it. The little faith I have to give is in his corner.

Also can you tell me who you motivated again?

Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2012, 12:11 AM
Well the problem is that there seems to be a Role Blocker and giving that plan plus now we have outed a motivator, tracker, watcher, protector and investigator.

Good to see we have this thing called discretion... Damn it guys this is why you do not reveal until you are about to die or have some damn crucial information. Its like we are playing Texas Hold 'em and our opponent can see our hand.

It seems like we blew our load too early.

Yeah, a roleblocker would mess things up a lot. Blah. I guess it is up to the town to choose between me or bantx then. I hope bantx gets lynched so we can move on tomorrow and not waste another lynch lynching him when you find out I am who I say I am.

Snicho
07-28-2012, 12:13 AM
But really, Shanes 'hinting' comments earlier can be applied to anything. Really someone coming out and saying I hope we get more information, is really not that much of a big deal, anyone could say it.

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:16 AM
But really, Shanes 'hinting' comments earlier can be applied to anything. Really someone coming out and saying I hope we get more information, is really not that much of a big deal, anyone could say it.

Clearly you aren't looking at the same comments.

He wasn't able to every night.

Yes, he was.

I'm glad someone caught on, lol.


Alright, I want to see from broth why he felt for sure Renji is the guy. But I didn't silence broth and I've been hinting at my role for two days (if anyone picked up on it), so it has to be Bantx if Renji is telling the truth.

Unvote: GOW

Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2012, 12:17 AM
But really, Shanes 'hinting' comments earlier can be applied to anything. Really someone coming out and saying I hope we get more information, is really not that much of a big deal, anyone could say it.

It is vague, obviously I wasn't going to come out with it until I needed to, but I wanted to mark my tracks at least a little bit. I recognize it isn't surefire proof, but I tried. I had thought I did more, guess not. Even so, I hinted about it long before bantx said anything today at least.

What else can I say? I was the first to vote Ngata, I've used my vote plenty, but always felt like it was in good taste. Sorry that I don't have more.

Brothgar
07-28-2012, 12:17 AM
Unblockable kill is more likely than a roleblocker. CJ wasn't blocked and I wasn't blocked even though we were confirmed people.

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:17 AM
Obviously they don't look much like hints until you pair them with other posts but if you go back its there.

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:18 AM
Unblockable kill is more likely than a roleblocker. CJ wasn't blocked and I wasn't blocked even though we were confirmed people.

CJ could have been blocked on the Vidae reading as I said earlier to Todd.

jrdrylie
07-28-2012, 12:18 AM
I seriously do't see why this is such a hard vote. Shane hinted at motivator the day before. He was the first to come out as a motivator. He was ngata's first vote. He went out on a limb and actually stated names of who he motivated which is dangerous because if bantz had motivated someone night one or two, Shane's lie would have unraveled. If I'm wrong, I'll look like an idiot. But I really don't think I am.

Brothgar
07-28-2012, 12:19 AM
Shane did you make any hints about being a motivator before day 5?

fenikz
07-28-2012, 12:21 AM
Unblockable kill is more likely than a roleblocker. CJ wasn't blocked and I wasn't blocked even though we were confirmed people.

I'm just hoping it wasn't a broth up by SP

Brothgar
07-28-2012, 12:21 AM
I seriously do't see why this is such a hard vote. Shane hinted at motivator the day before. He was the first to come out as a motivator. He was ngata's first vote. He went out on a limb and actually stated names of who he motivated which is dangerous because if bantz had motivated someone night one or two, Shane's lie would have unraveled. If I'm wrong, I'll look like an idiot. But I really don't think I am.

Quote it for me and my decision is rather easy.

Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2012, 12:22 AM
Shane did you make any hints about being a motivator before day 5?

Day 4 I did, very minimally. They are in a post I made earlier.

Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2012, 12:23 AM
Quote it for me and my decision is rather easy.


http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3069995&#post3069995

bantx
07-28-2012, 12:23 AM
Wouldn't that mean we would kill him tomorrow? I mean isn't that a pretty straight forward thing. If you are good then he dies tomorrow. Its more of just who to kill at this point.

Shane hinted at Motivator for a good long while before you got on and tried to claim it. The little faith I have to give is in his corner.

Also can you tell me who you motivated again?

What I'm trying to do is prevent the trade off and just take out the mafia guy with the vote now instead of waiting for tomorrow and shane getting another shot at another kill.

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:26 AM
Quote it for me and my decision is rather easy.

Just looking I found this:

I get the feeling I have helped the town a lot more than you. Hopefully we will see tomorrow.

jrdrylie
07-28-2012, 12:27 AM
Nice find IBC.

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:27 AM
Also **** this game... I said I was going to bed over an hour and a half ago.

Todd Bertuzzi
07-28-2012, 12:29 AM
Also **** this game... I said I was going to bed over an hour and a half ago.

Well at this point we'll need to wait for sbh or vidae to come along before any type of a decision is made. Looks like vidae is silenced so hopefully sbh comes along before SP wakes up.

Brothgar
07-28-2012, 12:29 AM
Vote Bantx

Pretty much settles it for me. IBC = MVP

ImBrotherCain
07-28-2012, 12:32 AM
Alright I did my due diligence... I am going to pass out now. I pray this doesn't go RR.

Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2012, 12:32 AM
Just looking I found this:

Thank you IBC. I KNEW I had said something else at some point that day, but felt under the gun making my post with my "hints." Hopefully this proves it.

bantx
07-28-2012, 12:34 AM
The town deserves to lose now.

jrdrylie
07-28-2012, 12:34 AM
Vote Count:

bantx (6) - Shane, BB, Todd, JR, IBC, broth
Shane (5) - bantx, fenikz, GOW, Snicho, D-Unit

With 13 alive, 7 votes are needed for a majority.

Fenikz and GOW, I ask you to switch your vote. Either Shane has somehow pulled of the greatest con I've ever seen or he is good.

fenikz
07-28-2012, 01:15 AM
his so called hint is vague as **** but i'm near the point of just not giving a ****

Unvote: JBond
Vote: Bantx

btw im dead after tonight

SuperPacker
07-28-2012, 06:16 AM
"I'm the motivator!", "Impossible, i'm the motivator!", we heard from two different corners of the room. The only problem for the town was that there was no way of telling who was being truthful. Both had made their case and just a decision was left to be made, however it seemed impossible for the town to reach one. After many painful hours, they finally came to the conclusion that bantx was the liar and so they closed in on him and beat him to death.

http://www.rounds.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/monica-friends.jpg

bantx (Monica Geller) (Motivator) has been lynched.

Send your night actions in ASAP.

SuperPacker
07-28-2012, 01:52 PM
After a bad day for the town yesterday, they were left hoping that things would go there way the following night. However there was one noticeable absentee. GOW was missing. The town went up her apartment, and found her lying there with several bullet holes to the chest.

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/3197/458476-1226933837820_f.jpg

*** Ork Wang (Phoebe Buffay) (Watcher) has been killed.

Last nights death count didn't stop there, as a certain European was missing. The town rushed to Todd's apartment and found him lying there dead. It was not the end of the world, as Todd was not a very popular person within the town and with further inspection, it was apparent he was not fighting for the town's best interests. It was clear he had been viciously stabbed to death.

http://images.wikia.com/friends/images/e/e9/Paolo.jpg

Todd Bertuzzi (Paolo) (2x Ninja) has been killed.

ATL has replaced sbh.

With 10 alive, 6 is needed for a majority.

fenikz
07-28-2012, 01:54 PM
so i'm entirely useless, protected GOW last night and he died

either SP is brothing it up or doctor is a useless role

Vote: JBond

vidae
07-28-2012, 01:57 PM
vote : Shane

It's pretty clear. And yes, I was silenced yesterday.

ATLDirtyBirds
07-28-2012, 02:00 PM
I'll have to catch up the best I can, but considering all the GAME TALK I read in the discussion thread, I know this one is pretty easy.

vote: Shane

SuperPacker
07-28-2012, 02:04 PM
Vote Count:

Shane (3) - fenikz, vidae, ATL

With 10 alive, 6 are needed for a majority.

vidae
07-28-2012, 02:05 PM
And for the record, I can clear IBC for good if he wasn't already. I was the last person he gifted an item to. I have NO IDEA what it does so I haven't used it yet.

D-Unit
07-28-2012, 02:15 PM
http://alltheragefaces.com/img/usercreated/4fa36b2f66feb.png

OK, so obviously Shane got away with it and this cocky smile says it all. Can we all just agree now that if we need to lynch someone on Day 1 in the future that Shane will be the default vote?

Did this pic rub anyone else the wrong way? It's almost like he's voluntarily giving himself up now... a trick to divert us away from lynching a bigger fish?

vidae
07-28-2012, 02:16 PM
And for the record, I firmly believe BB is evil. I'm not Incompetent. He should be the lynch vote tomorrow.

ATLDirtyBirds
07-28-2012, 02:17 PM
I agree D. Anyone know what Brodeur is up to?

BeerBaron
07-28-2012, 02:17 PM
And for the record, I firmly believe BB is evil. I'm not Incompetent. He should be the lynch vote tomorrow.

You're a god damn serial killer and you're going to die right after I do. I'm a spiteful ************.

fenikz
07-28-2012, 02:19 PM
how about you ***** vote :/

vidae
07-28-2012, 02:20 PM
You're a god damn serial killer and you're going to die right after I do. I'm a spiteful ************.

I have ALREADY BEEN CLEARED. How can I be a serial killer? I TARGETED YOU AND YOU ARE ALIVE.

BeerBaron
07-28-2012, 02:23 PM
I have ALREADY BEEN CLEARED. How can I be a serial killer? I TARGETED YOU AND YOU ARE ALIVE.

People will see. You swear you're a cop and not incompetent. Impossible then to have gotten the result you did. I will now be more satisfied making sure you don't win than living myself.

He's an SK, tried to kill me, I didn't die (only one death that night) and then thought claiming me as evil would clear him in the eyes of the town. And CJ's inconclusive result? SuperPacker brothing it up. SK's should always come back evil.

fenikz
07-28-2012, 02:24 PM
youre both evil