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gpngc
08-06-2012, 04:58 PM
23101 Bruce Irvin +2000
23102 Casey Hayward +1500
23103 Chandler Jones +800
23104 Courtney Upshaw +1000
23105 Donta Hightower +1000
23106 Dontari Poe +1500
23107 Dre Kirkpatrick +1000
23108 Fletcher Cox +1000
23109 Harrison Smith +1500
23110 Janoris Jenkins +1500
23111 Jerel Worthy +2500
23112 Luke Kuechly +800
23113 Mark Barron +1200
23114 Melvin Ingram +1800
23115 Michael Brockers +1800
23116 Morris Claiborne +800
23117 Mychal Kendricks +1500
23118 Nick Perry +2000
23119 Quinton Coples +1500
23120 Stephon Gilmore +1500
23121 Field (all Others) +500

Shane P. Hallam
08-06-2012, 05:01 PM
The field isnt a awful bet here. I'd probably play it safe and take Kuechly.

Giantsfan1080
08-06-2012, 05:06 PM
The field isnt a awful bet here. I'd probably play it safe and take Kuechly.

Same here. Tackles are the easiest to rack up and what the voters look at.

VernonLawson89
08-06-2012, 05:06 PM
Cam Johnson

PackerLegend
08-06-2012, 05:08 PM
Nick Perry... homer pick yes but he should be able to rack up sacks opposite CMIII

SuperPacker
08-06-2012, 05:16 PM
Tavon Wilson?

Brent
08-06-2012, 05:19 PM
Morris Claiborne wouldn't be a shocker either. I think he's expected to start, no?

Don Vito
08-06-2012, 05:21 PM
Tavon Wilson?

Not sure if you're serious as he was a WTF pick, but he is in line for playing time and has been impressive so far. Is physical and has some versatility.

Keuchly is the safest bet if you ask me because he is a tackle machine and because of his coverage skills he should get a few picks and maybe a couple of sacks. He is always around the ball and will have some talent surrounding him so I think he will take the award this year.

Cigaro
08-06-2012, 05:27 PM
Kuechly has been very impressive in camp, will certainly start day one. Plus he is a Panther. So obviously that is where my vote is going.

jrdrylie
08-06-2012, 05:37 PM
If I'm voting on who I think actually wins it, I'd go Kuechly. But if I were a better man (which I just so happen to be) I'd put a few greenbacks on Irvin and possibly Upshaw.

TACKLE
08-06-2012, 05:58 PM
My non-Luke pick would be Janoris. Could see him making a lot of QB's pay for challenging him.

WCH
08-06-2012, 06:07 PM
I think Jenkins is going to make a few teams regret passing on him.

FUNBUNCHER
08-06-2012, 06:50 PM
Devon Still should be on this preseason list.

ArkyRamsFan
08-06-2012, 06:51 PM
Janoris Jenkins has already been named a starter and has been very impressive in camp.

He looks like a natural and will have more than his share of picks as opposing QBs will make the mistake of targeting a rookie corner.

He will win the DROY. :wave:

vidae
08-06-2012, 07:14 PM
No Dontari Poe option? **** THIS POLL!

FUNBUNCHER
08-06-2012, 07:29 PM
Has a corner ever won DROTY???

vidae
08-06-2012, 07:35 PM
Has a corner ever won DROTY???

Charles Woodson (98), Dale Carter (92), Mike Haynes (76), Willie Buchanon (72), Bruce Taylor (70), Lem Barney (67).

XxXdragonXxX
08-06-2012, 07:36 PM
Has a corner ever won DROTY???

Charles Woodwind wad the last one back in 98. Since then its been mostly LBers, a few DEs and 1 DT.


Kearse, Peppers and Suh are the only non-linebackers to win since 98.

K Train
08-06-2012, 08:15 PM
i like irvin or kuechley here

gpngc
08-06-2012, 08:45 PM
No Dontari Poe option? **** THIS POLL!

I don't think it's possible for a NT to win the award, let alone one that didn't put up stats in Conference USA.

Bixby (Thumper)
08-06-2012, 09:15 PM
I don't think it's possible for a NT to win the award, let alone one that didn't put up stats in Conference USA.

Sarcasm, you missed it.

vidae
08-06-2012, 09:18 PM
I don't think it's possible for a NT to win the award, let alone one that didn't put up stats in Conference USA.

NTs put up huge stats bro.

Sarcasm, you missed it.

He totes did.

SuperMcGee
08-06-2012, 11:56 PM
Can't help but feel it will be Kuechly. I love the chances of one of the defensive backs having a big year, though. I have even provided a homer argument for one not in the poll that I think can change some minds.

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac252/szp41/SG.jpg

Shane P. Hallam
08-07-2012, 12:16 AM
Has a corner ever won DROTY???

Safeties win it less than corners. A safety hasn't won for 22 years.

I just posted up an article using these numbers on my thoughts:
http://www.profootballaddicts.com/310/odds-for-defensive-rookie-of-the-year/

Cigaro
08-07-2012, 12:16 AM
Can't help but feel it will be Kuechly. I love the chances of one of the defensive backs having a big year, though. I have even provided a homer argument for one not in the poll that I think can change some minds.

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac252/szp41/SG.jpg

Going to be very interesting in watching Gilmore, although admittedly mostly for homer reasons. He is very talented, but after his great freshman year he had a sophomore slump and then still got beaten a good many times last year. I have a personal theory that coaching may have had an impact, as he got a new position coach after his freshman year. If Gilmore shines in the NFL, it probably does reflect on the coaching he received those last two years which doesn't bode well for us, considering he's been promoted to DC.

SuperMcGee
08-07-2012, 12:20 AM
Going to be very interesting in watching Gilmore, although admittedly mostly for homer reasons. He is very talented, but after his great freshman year he had a sophomore slump and then still got beaten a good many times last year. I have a personal theory that coaching may have had an impact, as he got a new position coach after his freshman year. If Gilmore shines in the NFL, it probably does reflect on the coaching he received those last two years which doesn't bode well for us, considering he's been promoted to DC.

He's having a good camp, so far. Thrust right into #1 role. Playing very physical and holding his own with Stevie Johnson. I'm excited for it. Can't be worse than what Florence gave us against #1 receivers last year and his potential is so high. Hopefully the line can indeed make it a little easier on him.

Brown Leader
08-07-2012, 12:43 AM
Fletcher Cox

Bucs_Rule
08-07-2012, 04:39 AM
The first linebacker taken would be the best bet. That's boring, for dark horse Chandler Jones. Lots of pass rushing opportunities with that offense.

descendency
08-07-2012, 10:50 AM
I'm taking the field. I don't love any of the guys listed here. I think they are all good players and will be good, but I'm not sure any of them will be in position to stand out in their rookie years.

If you make me pick one, I'll take Dont'a Hightower.

AntoinCD
08-07-2012, 12:15 PM
I think Fletcher Cox could be a monster in the Eagles Wide 9 system.

Keuchly seems the obvious, however playing WILL he will need to make a lot of plays and tackles won't be as easy to come by as if he were in the middle.

I think Hightower has a great shot at this. He's gonna get way more playing time than Spikes because he can play in the sub defenses plus he brings it as a pass rusher. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up as the Pats most productive 'backer

Complex
08-07-2012, 01:37 PM
Zach Brown or Coples.

gpngc
08-07-2012, 01:58 PM
My boy Kendricks with 0 votes so far. Damn.

And Mark Barron with just one? Wow.

Don Vito
08-07-2012, 02:04 PM
A darkhorse is Bobby Wagner, he already has a starting spot if I'm not mistaken. He's a guy who will rack up a ton of tackles and should have a few sacks/picks as well.

jrdrylie
08-07-2012, 02:05 PM
My boy Kendricks with 0 votes so far. Damn.

And Mark Barron with just one? Wow.

A sfaety hasn't won in over 20 years. I doubt Barron wins unless he grabs a ton of INTs.

WCH
08-07-2012, 02:14 PM
I believe that only two Safeties have won the award. Mark Carrier won it in '90 with a 10 interception season. Erik McMillan won it in '88 with 8 INTs (two returned for a TD).

Cigaro
08-07-2012, 02:17 PM
Defensive lineman need a lot of sacks to win the award. Linebackers need a lot of tackles to win the award. Defensive backs need a lot of interceptions to win the award.

One is clearly a lot easier than the other two for a rookie to accomplish.

gpngc
08-07-2012, 02:18 PM
I don't know, I think Barron could finish with a lot of tackles from his safety spot. Especially with how easy RBs are going to get to the second level against the Bucs.

K Train
08-07-2012, 02:22 PM
i forgot about how weak they are up front with price out, mccoy made of glass, and bowers all but finished. CLayborn is a beast, but thats not enough....i think barron has a legit shot at a ton of tackles and a hand full of picks

V.I.P
08-07-2012, 06:44 PM
Lavonte ******* Davidi

onejayhawk
08-08-2012, 11:55 AM
Dontari Poe.

jk

J

FUNBUNCHER
08-09-2012, 07:57 PM
Melvin Ingram will be the best rookie pass rusher from this draft. He looks like a blown up James Harrison.

Razor
08-09-2012, 07:59 PM
Melvin Ingram will be the best rookie pass rusher from this draft. He looks like a blown up James Harrison.

This better be a joke. That fat kid will bust so hard that Larry English will look like a good pick.

tjsunstein
08-09-2012, 08:04 PM
Kendricks or Perry.

Ron
08-10-2012, 07:43 AM
Kendricks or Perry.

No way Perry wins the award. There are just way better players in this rookie class. Take off the homer goggles.

jayceheathman
08-11-2012, 09:26 PM
I have my money on

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/welcome-to-houston-whitney-mercilus/20120427_texans-whitney-mercilus_btc_18.jpg

WCH
08-11-2012, 11:45 PM
No way Perry wins the award. There are just way better players in this rookie class. Take off the homer goggles.

I've pointed out some of Perry's flaws and I don't think he'll win DROY, but I also don't think there are "way better" players in this class. I really don't see any transcendent prospects in this class, like we had with Von Miller a year ago.

Even if there are "way better" players, Perry is playing opposite Clay Matthews in Dom Capers system. It's entirely possible that he could spend the season tripping over his own dick and still stumble into 10 sacks.

FUNBUNCHER
08-12-2012, 12:07 AM
Yeah I was actually thinking Perry might be the one rookie pass rusher in the best situation to get double digit sacks playing opposite CMIII.

He could get it.
He reminds me a lot of Orakpo, but Perry is better IMO.

Razor
08-12-2012, 09:06 AM
I have my money on

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/wp-content/blogs.dir/2348/files/welcome-to-houston-whitney-mercilus/20120427_texans-whitney-mercilus_btc_18.jpg

That's not a bad guess actually. He could end up with 10+ sacks in that defense which will be a DROY award in most years.

onejayhawk
08-12-2012, 11:35 AM
Either Kuechley or field. Since there are no odds, this a no brainer.

J

tjsunstein
08-12-2012, 03:58 PM
No way Perry wins the award. There are just way better players in this rookie class. Take off the homer goggles.
I'm not saying he's the best player in this rookie class at all, I'm not even saying he's the best defensive player in this class. You have to take away all DL and DB from this award barring a freak season because historically those positions don't win the award. Packers defense was lacking one huge thing last year and it was a rusher oppo of Clay Matthews. In turn that gave the offense the ability to key in on Clay and then have upwards of 5 seconds per pass attempt (not a real stat, but maybe not an exaggeration). Perry has the force opposite of him and the secondary behind him to become a playmaker and a constant in the backfield on passing downs. These awards love stats, and if Perry can get 8-12, he's very much in the running and that's not unrealistic to think.

And I mentioned Kendricks so my homer glasses were never on. You had a very compelling counter argument, though, I'm glad you took time out of your day to think in depth about the content of your post.

mqtirishfan
08-12-2012, 11:39 PM
How does Hayward have better odds than Perry? Perry has no competition, a better position for winning these kind of awards, better name recognition, and better potential for big numbers that look good to voters.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
08-13-2012, 05:36 PM
I voted Luke Kuechly. It is the obvious choice, but I think that is for good reason. The guy is a good all-around football player and will be a key ingredient in helping that defense rebound (along with some other healthy individuals). He can play in all situations and sideline to sideline. I'd take the high odds on this one.

My #2 choice is Lavonte David. I think he's a good football player who will get his burn and also fits the above criteria.

DBNYDP
08-13-2012, 07:21 PM
I'm not really saying he will but you'd have to think Quinton Coples might have a shot. Clearly he has a ton of talent and I'm pretty sure Ryan will give him plenty of opportunities to get after the QB. Apparently he's been having a pretty good camp too so I can seeing him have a maybe double digit sack year.
But I'd still say Perry has a really good shot at the award because he's going to get his tackles since he's a linebacker but he'll probably be able to add 5+ sacks which Kuelchy definitely won't have.