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phlysac
08-08-2012, 11:52 AM
Who were some of the players whom your team's beat-writers and fanbases swore would be great players based on their Training Camps and Preseasons, yet they never amounted to anything?


Some 49ers' Camp stars of recent years...

PJ Fleck
Marcus Maxwell
Thomas Clayton
Nate Davis
Kory Sheets

vidae
08-08-2012, 11:59 AM
Dexter McCluster, every year. He always shows up to camp and seriously impresses everyone and he never does it in a game.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-08-2012, 12:15 PM
Ramses Barden - Usually great camps, but does nothing in the regular season. Most of the time not even active, because he doesn't play special teams. But he does have good camps.



David Douglas

Will Hill

Victor Cruz

Jerrel Jernigan

Mark Herzlich

Jason Pierre-Paul - May be a the category below of "superstar" but having a damn good camp, stopping RBs for loses, padding down passes, and usually you read, great pass by Eli, however in a game, Eli would have been sacked by JPP. So JPP is taking the next step in his development.

killxswitch
08-08-2012, 12:19 PM
Jerry Hughes seems to be that guy so far for the Colts this year. We'll see if it actually happens in a game this time.

Matthew Jones
08-08-2012, 12:31 PM
Brandon Lloyd, Julian Edelman, Aaron Hernandez, Dont'a Hightower, Sterling Moore, and Tavon Wilson are getting a lot of hype in New England.

SuperMcGee
08-08-2012, 12:59 PM
It's usually just some depth receiver that ends up not doing much. Lately, of course, it's been Shawne Merriman, who "feels great" every preseason and looks the part before everything gets real. We all know how that one ends.

Losman and Edwards also had some good camps. Woof.

Bulldogs
08-08-2012, 01:00 PM
This year it's been mostly Julio Jones, sprinkled in with some Asante Samuel and Matt Ryan.

V.I.P
08-08-2012, 01:14 PM
Doug Martin
Tiquan Underwood
Ahmad Black
Lavonte David
Gerald McCoy
Vincent Jackson

All are looking like stars in camp

Hurricanes25
08-08-2012, 01:25 PM
David Clowney played very well in camp and preseason games when he was with the Jets. I thought he would make an impact but never did. I think he's currently with Buffalo.

Ron
08-08-2012, 01:26 PM
Ramses Barden is the classic training camp superstar imo. Always gets tons of hype but the guy clearly will never produce on the field.

K Train
08-08-2012, 02:29 PM
issac redman, i ******* hate him. evander hood too, they always shine in training camp and preseason and then go on to epitomize mediocrity in the regular season. Camp heros, but painfully average players

Don Vito
08-08-2012, 02:32 PM
Dexter McCluster, every year. He always shows up to camp and seriously impresses everyone and he never does it in a game.

You just wait

Razor
08-08-2012, 02:55 PM
Brandon Lloyd, Julian Edelman, Aaron Hernandez, Dont'a Hightower, Sterling Moore, and Tavon Wilson are getting a lot of hype in New England.

You left out Chandler Jones. CJ is getting a lot of hype these days.

Ness
08-08-2012, 02:57 PM
Who were some of the players whom your team's beat-writers and fanbases swore would be great players based on their Training Camps and Preseasons, yet they never amounted to anything?


Some 49ers' Camp stars of recent years...

PJ Fleck
Marcus Maxwell
Thomas Clayton
Nate Davis
Kory Sheets

Nate Davis...I still have hope for him.

Anyways, I'm praying that Nate Palmer doesn't become the next fraud to top this list.

RaiderDiehard
08-08-2012, 03:04 PM
Kory Sheets is tearing up the CFL this season, if I recall correctly......

armageddon
08-08-2012, 03:11 PM
These guys have been getting praised by the local media guys for the Rams

Jenoris Jenkins
Pead
Quinn (say he looks un blockable)
Quick
Givens
Brockers
Long
Bradford
Finnagen

RaiderDiehard
08-08-2012, 03:14 PM
Quinn would strike me as somebody who would play better in camp. Could see him notch upwards of 12 sacks this year. Rare specimen.

Don Vito
08-08-2012, 03:14 PM
These guys have been getting praised by the local media guys for the Rams

Jenoris Jenkins
Pead
Quinn (say he looks un blockable)
Quick
Givens
Brockers
Long
Bradford
Finnagen

Do the Rams have anyone who can block?

armageddon
08-08-2012, 03:28 PM
Do the Rams have anyone who can block?


I am hearing OT's Saffold and Smith are getting better each day. O-line coach Paul Boudreau is supposed to be one of the best. Heard it was mostly technique with Smith. Boudreau said Smith would try to demolish DE's instead of just blocking them. LT Saffold has gained 15 lbs of muscle in the off season and looks good so far. He's up to 325. If these 2 can stay healthy and put it together, the Rams will be in really good shape. Their D has the potential to be elite, especially their d-line and CB's. MLB Lariunitus is very good too.

Bixby (Thumper)
08-08-2012, 03:29 PM
Some people made Lorenzo Booker sound like Barry Sanders a few years back.

armageddon
08-08-2012, 03:30 PM
Quinn would strike me as somebody who would play better in camp. Could see him notch upwards of 12 sacks this year. Rare specimen.



Here is my concern with Quinn. He is so fast off the edge and he gets so wide so fast, that teams can run right at his vacant spot. He creates a huge hole there.

TACKLE
08-08-2012, 04:26 PM
I am hearing OT's Saffold and Smith are getting better each day. O-line coach Paul Boudreau is supposed to be one of the best. Heard it was mostly technique with Smith. Boudreau said Smith would try to demolish DE's instead of just blocking them. LT Saffold has gained 15 lbs of muscle in the off season and looks good so far. He's up to 325. If these 2 can stay healthy and put it together, the Rams will be in really good shape. Their D has the potential to be elite, especially their d-line and CB's. MLB Lariunitus is very good too.

You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to react like an oversensitive 12 year old and start insulting his team because he said something that was critical of your team.

Don Vito
08-08-2012, 04:31 PM
You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to react like an oversensitive 12 year old and start insulting his team because he said something that was critical of your team.

Finally somebody with some sense

armageddon
08-08-2012, 04:56 PM
You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to react like an oversensitive 12 year old and start insulting his team because he said something that was critical of your team.



Is this coming from that thread where I asked if the Pats had anybody who could cover ? Also, I can't say too much for anybody bashing the Rams as bad as they have sucked for so long, especially the o-line. But, I have a feeling people are going to be shocked how good the Rams are this year. They have lots of talent and finally real coaches.

Don Vito
08-08-2012, 05:29 PM
Is this coming from that thread where I asked if the Pats had anybody who could cover ? Also, I can't say too much for anybody bashing the Rams as bad as they have sucked for so long, especially the o-line. But, I have a feeling people are going to be shocked how good the Rams are this year. They have lots of talent and finally real coaches.

Yes thats what it is from

But honestly there is a lot of talent on defense, the DL is loaded, Laurinaitis is solid but there probably are some questions around him, and the secondary is improved with the addition of Finnegan and this draft class. It will revolve around that DL, Long will be a beast and Quinn has the potential to be a terror. Add Brockers in the middle with Langford and that is a tough front 4. Fisher brought William Hayes over too he could be a decent rotational guy.

It comes down to Bradford and the offense. Jackson is a horse and Pead should lighten his workload, but it comes down to the OL and who Bradford is throwing to. Amendola is pretty good but Brian Quick is probably a project, but he has ability. Don't know what else there really is at receiver. If the line has improved as you said that would be big.

Bottom line is the team has more talent, Fisher will get them to play hard, and you are going to have some prime draft picks in the next couple of years. Things are looking pretty good

ArkyRamsFan
08-08-2012, 05:58 PM
Here is my concern with Quinn. He is so fast off the edge and he gets so wide so fast, that teams can run right at his vacant spot. He creates a huge hole there.

Yeah, I hear ya...It sounds like Leonard Little Part Deux.

Don't get me wrong I loved LL but, man, he left such a gaping hole on his pass rush that I think he put Shaun Alexander in the Pro Bowl all by himself.

Quinn needs to become a total player complete with maintaining gap discipline and playing the run like it matters...because it does.

descendency
08-08-2012, 06:24 PM
I hate to say this, because I know Rams fans will get butthurt over it, but I wouldn't jock Steven Jackson too much. He's right around that magical number of carries when the players career falls off a cliff.

armageddon
08-08-2012, 06:42 PM
I hate to say this, because I know Rams fans will get butthurt over it, but I wouldn't jock Steven Jackson too much. He's right around that magical number of carries when the players career falls off a cliff.


Jackson is a freak of nature. He just came into camp in the best shape of his life. Body fat went down to 5% at 234 lbs. He looks quicker because of it. He is a rare specimen

armageddon
08-08-2012, 06:45 PM
Yes thats what it is from

But honestly there is a lot of talent on defense, the DL is loaded, Laurinaitis is solid but there probably are some questions around him, and the secondary is improved with the addition of Finnegan and this draft class. It will revolve around that DL, Long will be a beast and Quinn has the potential to be a terror. Add Brockers in the middle with Langford and that is a tough front 4. Fisher brought William Hayes over too he could be a decent rotational guy.

It comes down to Bradford and the offense. Jackson is a horse and Pead should lighten his workload, but it comes down to the OL and who Bradford is throwing to. Amendola is pretty good but Brian Quick is probably a project, but he has ability. Don't know what else there really is at receiver. If the line has improved as you said that would be big.

Bottom line is the team has more talent, Fisher will get them to play hard, and you are going to have some prime draft picks in the next couple of years. Things are looking pretty good



Pretty much agree on all points. The Rams have a lot of "what iffs". If those "what iffs" pan out, they could be dangerous.

K Train
08-09-2012, 08:23 AM
funny how every player who might be on a decline soon is in "the best shape of their life" every single year....tomlinson said the same thing

Complex
08-09-2012, 10:23 AM
I am hearing OT's Saffold and Smith are getting better each day. O-line coach Paul Boudreau is supposed to be one of the best. Heard it was mostly technique with Smith. Boudreau said Smith would try to demolish DE's instead of just blocking them. LT Saffold has gained 15 lbs of muscle in the off season and looks good so far. He's up to 325. If these 2 can stay healthy and put it together, the Rams will be in really good shape. Their D has the potential to be elite, especially their d-line and CB's. MLB Lariunitus is very good too.

Rams RT Jason Smith is losing some first-team reps to Barry Richardson.
Even though Smith is a former No. 2 overall pick and Richardson is a 2008 sixth-rounder, coach Jeff Fisher has opened up the job to competition. Smith certainly has more potential, but both are major liabilities pass protection right now. It's an area of concern for the Rams. Aug 9 - 10:13 AM
Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch

Bust IMHO...

armageddon
08-09-2012, 10:24 AM
Pretty much agree on all points. The Rams have a lot of "what iffs". If those "what iffs" pan out, they could be dangerous.



Not many people on this planet are built like Jackson. LT relied on speed, Jackson relies on power. I think it's hard to compare those two type or players regarding declining. I think Jackson has 3 more very productive years left before we see a decline.

armageddon
08-09-2012, 10:26 AM
Bust IMHO...


If Boudreau can't help Smith, then yes, he's a bust. But it's actually been his concussions more than his performance.

armageddon
08-09-2012, 12:06 PM
Rams RT Jason Smith is losing some first-team reps to Barry Richardson.
Even though Smith is a former No. 2 overall pick and Richardson is a 2008 sixth-rounder, coach Jeff Fisher has opened up the job to competition. Smith certainly has more potential, but both are major liabilities pass protection right now. It's an area of concern for the Rams. Aug 9 - 10:13 AM
Source: St Louis Post-Dispatch


Bust IMHO...


I wouldn't read into that too much. When you move the ones and twos around it also lets them see different DE's instead of blocking the same guy all the time. They also get a feel for how the other players on the line with him play, in case of injury they have already played together some. Fisher has been moving 1's and 2's around a lot. Has nothing to do with who he favors and who he doesn't.


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