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Dallas357
08-26-2012, 11:42 AM
He has something now the other rookie qbs had from the beginning, a receiver that can catch the ball. Also, having your receivers lead the league in drops never helps. Is anyone going to argue he had the worst receivers in the league last year? I've never been from the receivers are a dime a dozen camp ever though.


General consensus around here seems to be they'll be picking #1. Even though they've never picked higher than 7th after their expansion year.

Just my gut feeling he proves a lot of people wrong this year. If i'm wrong don't forget to bump this around Halloween or early november. Give it approximately 2 months.

But really do your worst guys. Don't forget he's the most hated qb in the league. That he barely had more tds than ints last year, that you think henne will be the starter day 1, no olt to protect him, etc. Really go into how bad he will be this year.

FUNBUNCHER
08-26-2012, 12:00 PM
I think several posters are giving Gabby a mulligan for last season. He looks much improved in preseason, just his pocket presence, decision making and accuracy.

I don't know if he'll ever be a star, but for now the job appears to be his to lose in Jacksonville.

Razor
08-26-2012, 12:18 PM
I think Tebow is easily the most hated QB (and player) in the NFL. Gabby has a ton of talent and good tools to work with. However, he just didn't look comfortable last year. He seemed scared and was absolutely terrible under pressure. I don't know if he puts it all together. If he does he could be very good. If not last year is what you're going to get out of him every year. My hunch says that he'll end up similar to Mark Sanchez, but really.... At this point nobody knows and if someone posts the right prediction here I'll put it in the "blind luck" category.

jrdrylie
08-26-2012, 12:33 PM
I see him somewhere in this range:

3000-3500 yards
20-26 TD
12-15 INT

Matthew Jones
08-26-2012, 12:35 PM
Here's a conservative projection:

2800 yards, 56%, 16 TD, 14 INT

bigbluedefense
08-26-2012, 12:50 PM
My biggest knock on Gabbert was his complete inability to handle pressure and escape at a moments notice. I felt that when your qb is THAT scared, it's not something you can fix.

Having that said, it looks like Mularkey somehow was able to fix it. It really does amaze me, I really didn't think he was capable of growing a nut sack.

All he had to do was grow a pair, and he'd have potential to be a capable qb in this league, and so far it seems like the light came on. He stands in the pocket and takes the hit.

Having that said, I'm still skeptical. I need to see how he responds to blitzes in the regular season. But I won't completely write him off, not after seeing his exponential growth this PS.

I'm gonna say he'll be a top 20 qb this year, with mediocre numbers, some growth, but not enough to make me feel comfortable in calling him a franchise qb.

Cigaro
08-26-2012, 01:08 PM
He will be not great.

ChiFan24
08-26-2012, 01:09 PM
I was already on the bandwagon. He'll be OK.

A Perfect Score
08-26-2012, 01:28 PM
Mediocrity runs high in Jacksonville. If he has more TD's then INTs at the end of the year, I'll be very impressed.

tjsunstein
08-26-2012, 02:17 PM
I saw him stand tall in the pocket and look downfield while the pressure was coming instead of staring at the incoming blitz until it got to him. That's going to go a long way for him. He's capable of making the passes when there's nothing around him. As long as he continues to stand tall, he'll continue to get better. But he can't fall back into his ways of last year or he's looking for a 9-5 job.

As far as numbers? 3200/20TD/16INT

murdamal86
08-26-2012, 09:55 PM
He'll be a top 15 QB. Sig this post

descendency
08-26-2012, 10:04 PM
A step above last year.

Or a step behind every other QB, except one of the Jets.

Dallas357
08-27-2012, 04:08 PM
Now I know there are some real Gabbert haters on here. Don't be shy. Worst qb in the league, problems can't be fixed, Jaguars a lock to draft barkley, etc.

Brothgar
08-27-2012, 04:12 PM
He looked good for the first two pre-season games then looked horrid in the third. I'll say. Worse than Matt Cassel.

MidwayMonster31
08-27-2012, 04:36 PM
The dink and dunk system can help out Gabbert a bit. If he's willing to stay in the pocket and not go back to old habits, he can at least be a serviceable quarterback.
I will go with a 57% completion percentage, 2700 yards, 15 TD, 13 INT.

Don Vito
08-27-2012, 06:03 PM
Whoa there ************

TheRubberDuck45
08-27-2012, 06:20 PM
He looked good for the first two pre-season games then looked horrid in the third. I'll say. Worse than Matt Cassel.

Lol wut? How was he horrid? No picks no tds and only sacked once.

Brothgar
08-27-2012, 06:30 PM
Lol wut? How was he horrid? No picks no tds and only sacked once.

And a sub .500 completion % that is Mark Sanchez numbers.

TitanHope
08-27-2012, 06:33 PM
He'll never make it out...alive.

Caddy
08-27-2012, 06:54 PM
He will have a better season that 2/5 rookie QBs.

fenikz
08-27-2012, 07:03 PM
I think more people hate Kolb than Gabbert

TitanHope
08-27-2012, 07:05 PM
I, for one, am digging the angsty vibes coming from some of the Jags fans lately. Let that poison out, guy.

J'Ville was an impossible situation last year, and Gabbert should have sat his entire rookie season since he was a project. But the Jags threw him to the wolves on a team that applied him no help, so it's only natural that he struggled mightily. So it's absolutely unfair to just write him off after one season on a poor team.

Personally, I hope Gabbert has success. He's a handsome man with a great set of hair. I like that in a player. And when it looked like he wanted to throw the ball, he threw a nice ball. And if Blackmon becomes a safety blanket, then that'll help immensely.

But until he goes out and plays well against a defense that's out for blood, people will be extremely reluctant to give him the benefit of the doubt that he'll have some dramatic leap from 1st to 2nd year. I know Jags fans think non-Jags fans are ignorant of the Jaguars, but it's also ignorant of Jags fans to expect non-Jags fans to hop on the bandwagon of a player who played poorly last year. And until Gabbert proves himself, people should expect jabs from BeerBaron, because frankly, BB is only alive to this day because of the power of hate. He's like a Sith lord or a Canadian goose.

I have no clue on projecting his stats. That offense rests on the shoulders of 3 whole players, so if something goes wrong with one, it's Jenga. He'll undoubtedly improve though. He has no choice, especially with the added receiving talent. To what extent though, who knows. I do think he'll be the worst QB in the division, but that's because Luck is a porcelain goddess and Locker has so many toys around him. And Matt Schaub looks funny, but that's neither here nor there.

TheRubberDuck45
08-27-2012, 08:18 PM
11 for 21. Not sub 500. Close but no. You're talking out your ass

Brothgar
08-27-2012, 08:22 PM
11 for 21. Not sub 500. Close but no. You're talking out your ass

half a completion off = talking out of my ass good to know.

soybean
08-27-2012, 10:02 PM
what are your realistic expectations though? He was literally the worst qb in the league, even if he becomes serviceable, is that what you want to hang your franchise on?

How many qbs go from being the worst qb into the league into an elite qb?

Caulibflower
08-27-2012, 11:59 PM
What I've seen so far: Gabbert looked decent in the first two games of the year, the easiest, most meaningless games of the year, and then in the harder, more important meaningless game looked about the same as he did last year.

Cudders
08-28-2012, 08:20 AM
Not good.

I don’t believe in Gabbert and I don’t believe in that team. I never liked him at Missouri and I thought he was a disaster in his rookie season. It wasn’t just because he struggled as a green quarterback on an untalented team. It was because he didn’t show much in doing so. Where were the flashes? No one should’ve expected him to come out, start ripping it all over the football field, and light the league on fire. But it’s not unreasonable to expect glimpses of something. And I didn’t see those glimpses.

Two performances in the preseason aren’t going to do much to change a belief that I’ve held for a while. I still don’t like his future as an accurate passer and I still don’t like that he is not coming off his first or second reads. When defenses start game-planning to eliminate his best weapons will he be able to come off his primaries and secondaries and move the ball in time? That’s something I haven’t seen and it’s something these games can’t sell me on.

What I will give Gabbert is that he doesn’t look as shell-shocked back there as he did last season. That’s a big part of his battle. Getting hit is inevitable as a quarterback. You can’t shrink in the face of contact or obsess about avoiding the next crushing blindside hit and become an adequate quarterback. It just isn’t going to happen. Quarterback is such an intricate position and requires a certain level of trust in teammates. You can’t be under center wondering whether the left tackle is going to be beaten and still process all of the pre-snap information and then validate it post-snap.

If I had to throw out a stat line, I guess I’d put him somewhere in the neighborhood of 250/480, 2750 YDS, 18 TD, 15 INT. Which leaves him among the worst quarterbacks in the NFL again and leaves the Jaguars with a crucial choice for next April.

descendency
08-28-2012, 09:18 AM
The only reason people wanted this guy at #1 overall is because people were scared of Cam Newton and no one wanted the inconsistent Jake Locker. It was obvious the Panthers needed a QB the most, too.

Caulibflower
08-28-2012, 06:08 PM
I would give him a Madden rating of about 72, which is good enough to have some good throws in there and beat your friend who doesn't know how to play even when he's using a stacked team, but on even ground, when you're losing all his flaws are going to be enormous, and ultimately you're left thinking you should've just picked a team with a more consistent passer.

And that was kind of hare-brained, but basically I'm saying that to me, his ceiling is that of a player who might not kill his own team if they're having a good game. I have never once seen a clutch moment out of Blaine Gabbert. If you think you have one, post a video.

Rosebud
08-28-2012, 08:28 PM
Unbelievably.

K Train
08-28-2012, 08:42 PM
I would give him a Madden rating of about 72, which is good enough to have some good throws in there and beat your friend who doesn't know how to play even when he's using a stacked team, but on even ground, when you're losing all his flaws are going to be enormous, and ultimately you're left thinking you should've just picked a team with a more consistent passer.

And that was kind of hare-brained, but basically I'm saying that to me, his ceiling is that of a player who might not kill his own team if they're having a good game. I have never once seen a clutch moment out of Blaine Gabbert. If you think you have one, post a video.

i actually started looking up gabbert highlights. the first highligh video doesnt even show him completing a pass for a full minute. its him warming up, scrambling, and what he looks like throwing it from the pocket, without showing it it was a completion. gabbert highlights=tough to come by lol

Brent
08-28-2012, 10:04 PM
god forbid you ever change your mind.
http://i.qkme.me/35aea2.jpg

holt_bruce81
08-29-2012, 02:27 AM
He won't be as bad as a lot of people think he'll be on this forum.

I still don't get all the hate for him. Was he worthy of a top 15 selection? Eh probably not, but lets see what he can do in his 2nd/3rd year in the league before we start throwing pooh at the kid. Like I've said before, The play of some rookie Quarterbacks the past few seasons has really spoiled some people.

Rosebud
08-29-2012, 09:37 AM
He won't be as bad as a lot of people think he'll be on this forum.

I still don't get all the hate for him. Was he worthy of a top 15 selection? Eh probably not, but lets see what he can do in his 2nd/3rd year in the league before we start throwing pooh at the kid. Like I've said before, The play of some rookie Quarterbacks the past few seasons has really spoiled some people.

The problem with that line of thinking is that the other QBs that I can remember looking as terrified and inaccurate as Gabbert did without flashing any quality where guys like Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn and Joey Harrington. It's fine not to come out like Cam, Ryan or Big Ben, but a QB needs to at least not be scared and have some flashes that show he can be an NFL QB, Gabbert didn't even flash.

K Train
08-30-2012, 10:00 AM
I would give him a Madden rating of about 72, which is good enough to have some good throws in there and beat your friend who doesn't know how to play even when he's using a stacked team, but on even ground, when you're losing all his flaws are going to be enormous, and ultimately you're left thinking you should've just picked a team with a more consistent passer.

And that was kind of hare-brained, but basically I'm saying that to me, his ceiling is that of a player who might not kill his own team if they're having a good game. I have never once seen a clutch moment out of Blaine Gabbert. If you think you have one, post a video.

i would just like you to know that the 3rd game of madden 13 i played was with the jaguars (randoms) and i blaine gabberted the **** out of my friend, i dont wanna say he had a day but he looked confident in the pocket and did some good things.....lol

G-Mac
08-30-2012, 11:24 AM
The problem with that line of thinking is that the other QBs that I can remember looking as terrified and inaccurate as Gabbert did without flashing any quality where guys like Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn and Joey Harrington..

Eli Manning.

G-Mac
08-30-2012, 12:04 PM
Eli never looked scared his rookie year? Beg to differ. He had a truly terrible rookie season.

Rosebud
08-30-2012, 12:12 PM
Eli Manning.

Is a top 5 QB in the NFL and future hall of famer...so what does he have to do with Blaine Gabbert?...

Or are you trying to say Eli didn't flash his great talent or toughness as a rookie? Because it's been a long time, so I understand that people like to make things up about times that people don't remember very well any more, but that would still be a lie if it is what you were trying to say.

WCH
08-30-2012, 12:15 PM
Is a top 5 QB in the NFL and future hall of famer...so what does he have to do with Blaine Gabbert?...

Or are you trying to say Eli didn't flash his great talent or toughness as a rookie? Because it's been a long time, so I understand that people like to make things up about times that people don't remember very well any more, but that would still be a lie if it is what you were trying to say.

I agree, and I don't have a horse in this race. Eli's toughness/moxie was one of the only things I liked about him early in his career.

Rosebud
08-30-2012, 12:35 PM
I agree, and I don't have a horse in this race. Eli's toughness/moxie was one of the only things I liked about him early in his career.

I remember his first cowboys game, where he lead a game winning drive that he capped off by audibling to a run with the game on the line. Eli showed his football smarts and balls from day one.

Giantsfan1080
08-30-2012, 12:50 PM
Professional troll. Stay away from Skip Bayless everyone.

onejayhawk
08-31-2012, 11:35 AM
Professional troll. Stay away from Skip Bayless everyone.

I definitely prefer Rick Bayless. Mexican food. Mmmm.

J

FUNBUNCHER
08-31-2012, 11:41 AM
I agree, and I don't have a horse in this race. Eli's toughness/moxie was one of the only things I liked about him early in his career.

Agree that ELi could always take it a hit. It's his one true 'super power' as a QB. You can punch that kid in the mouth and he still keeps grinding.

Brodeur
08-31-2012, 11:57 AM
Blaine Gabbert will be a top 3 AFC QB this year. YOU HEARD ME.

LonghornsLegend
08-31-2012, 01:24 PM
Blaine Gabbert will be a top 3 AFC QB this year. YOU HEARD ME.

I thought you really put AFC South and put it in a white font, even then it would have been hard to believe.


And while Eli had his struggles, pocket presence was never, ever one of them. He was always tough as nails and could hang in the pocket to make any throw. I've honestly never seen a QB as bad as Gabbert was last year in terms of facing pressure. If he's improved that this year(we'll see once the real games start) more power to him.

Brent
09-01-2012, 02:32 PM
I thought you really put AFC South and put it in a white font, even then it would have been hard to believe.
I'd take Locker over Gabby

Roddoliver
10-15-2012, 11:30 PM
Blaine Gabbert is really bad.