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Raiderz4Life
09-10-2012, 12:30 AM
C'mon guys. This place is dead as hell and we need to give it some CPR.

REGULAR SEASON

DALLAS COWBOYS
@ ARIZONA CARDINALS
DETROIT LIONS
@ SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
@ MIAMI DOLPHINS
PITTSBURGH STEELERS
@ DENVER BRONCOS
BYE
@ ATLANTA FALCONS
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
@ KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
@ BALTIMORE RAVENS
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
@ CINCINNATI BENGALS
CLEVELAND BROWNS
DENVER BRONCOS
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
@ CAROLINA PANTHERS
@ SAN DIEGO CHARGERS

That's our schedule. First game is against SD. I think we have a real shot at winning this game. Our DLine will have to come up big though. They're our best unit imo. Our LBers are OK but I'm not so sure about the secondary. Harass Rivers all day is the name of the game.

On O, we'll be short on receivers. Run DMC will have to show up and show that talent he possesses. Our OLine isn't bad either, I think they can step up and help establish the run. Our big key will be Carson. If he can have a good game, we'll be solid.

All in all I expect a W tomorrow night.

Raiderz4Life
09-11-2012, 01:05 AM
That sucked ass.

I'll write a few of my thoughts tomorrow.

Raiderz4Life
09-11-2012, 02:25 PM
Finally got on a computer at school.

Well, I think last night was pretty damn bad but not catastrophic. There were some bright spots in there. Saw people calling the Raiders garbage and pathetic and while I will admit we're not a good team we're not garbage either. We just had terrible circumstances.

First, the mistakes. These need to go away. The fumble at the beginning of the game was really a bad omen of things to come. Then Streater makes a nice grab and tries to do too much. Resulted in him getting stripped and Raiders lose the ball. Next time around we're moving well again, but we decide to get too cute and run a double reverse which Taiwan Jones fumbles.

On defense, the penalties racked up. Highlighted by Tommy Kelly's back to back offsides. Oakland really needs to learn what it is to play disciplines. I hate him but Trent Dilfer was right when he said that its just adding bad plays which will ultimately end in defeat.

Speaking of defense though, after early mistakes they really held up well. Our rush defense was top notch. Granted the Chargers were missing some players, I think we did a solid job. Richard Seymoure had a good game as did rookie LBer Miles Burris. I was really wasn't optimistic about our secondary and they didn't do much to help that. Ron Bartell got burned and then left the game. Huff got abused by Gates a couple times, overall the secondary needs work. Also was skeptical of Philip Wheeler and while he wasn't great, he wasn't all bad either. Like I said earlier Burris had a good game and I really like the kid. McClain needs to start playing up to his potential. Guy is fast and athletic and can be a good MLB. I also want to see a little more Christo Bilukidi but that's just me.

On offense, we had health issues. Hagan, Streater, and DHB were our only receivers. Streater has issues catching the damn ball. Palmer placed a few throws on a dime and he dropped them. Hagan and DHB had solid games overall but we really need Ford and Moore back. Kinda wish we still had Murphy too. I also liked what I saw out of Brandon Myers at TE. If he keeps developing he could be solid for us. Oakland also has to use more Marcel Reese. The guy is a mismatch that we have to take advantage of.

The OL was a disaster, specially in the middle. The absence of Wisinewski was really felt. Also I can't state how much I HATE Khalif Barnes and Cooper Carlisle. This offseason we really need to address LG and RT. I'm hoping Barksdale steps up for the job. Parsons got abused most of the night.

The turning point was losing John Condo. The 3 special teams plays that we totally botched are was ultimately broke our back. This is when we just started looking beyond stupid and hopeless.

All in all it was a terrible game but there were a lot of positives as well. We play Miami next. Hopefully a few guys come back and we look better. We can't run DMC into the ground, he's not made for it. He's going to get hurt.

Stash
09-11-2012, 10:33 PM
Yeah, that was a pathetic showing. I was all pumped up for the start of the season and that was a huge letdown. How did we not have anyone besides Condo capable of long snapping? We screwed up 3 punts in a row, that's embarrassing. I mean, what do the backup o-lineman do all day? They should just practice that on the sidelines until they don't completely suck at it.

I was very disappointed with the offense. Losing Hue's offense was something I was worried about coming into the season, and this game didn't help. It's like the game plan was "throw it to DMC in the flat". Is Jason Campbell calling the plays? ;)

The defense was the lone bright spot. The fact that they held SD to so many field goals when they were getting put into such bad situations is pretty impressive. ^^I agree with you about Burris, he looked good. I thought McClain looked good as well, he showed more explosion than I'd seen the last couple years and put a couple really good licks on the RB.

Raiderz4Life
09-12-2012, 01:08 PM
I wouldn't blame Palmer too much on giving it to DMC. Other than him no one was really stepping up. Streater was looking like an undrafted FA, Hagan made a few catches but couldn't for more since he's only been with Oakland for a week, and DHB did a few things. If the OL wasn't getting abused Palmer might have looked at DHB a little more.

I thought McClain was good to but I know he can be better and that's what I would like.

Stash
09-12-2012, 10:15 PM
My complaints about offense weren't really directed at Palmer, more at Knapp and whoever came up with that game plan. I'm not gonna call for anyone's head yet or anything, it's only week 1, but hopefully this stuff gets ironed out because if we lose to Miami I'll be pretty pissed.

RaiderNation
09-12-2012, 11:38 PM
Good news heading into week 2, Denarius Moore looks to be ready to play so Palmer gets his down the field target back!

Jacoby Ford has the same injury as DMC had last year, so expect him to be back for several weeks.

Raiderz4Life
09-12-2012, 11:51 PM
Thank you Baby Jesus. Moore, DHB, and Hagan is much better than Hagan, Streater, and DHB.

Sucks about Ford though. That injury practically killed DMC's season.

nobodyinparticular
09-13-2012, 12:55 AM
I've said it a bunch in other spots, but the reason the Raiders couldn't get it downfield was because the middle of the offinsive line was getting pushed all over the place. The was absolutely no depth to the pocket because Alex Parsons was manhandled by Franklin all game long.

If Wiz can come back healthy, I'm hoping that changes for the next game.

Raiderz4Life
09-13-2012, 03:13 PM
Any word on when Wiz is coming back?

nobodyinparticular
09-13-2012, 03:20 PM
Any word on when Wiz is coming back?

He's been taking 1st team snaps this week. So I would expect that would happen Sunday.

Xonraider
09-14-2012, 04:08 AM
I agree with most of what you said R4L! I really liked Burris, and i find it positive than in spite of so many mistakes, the game never didn't end completely out of hand. Carson didn't force many throws as he usually does and considering he will have Wiz protecting him and Moore back next week (hopefully) will only help him. I would like to see Taiwan, Goodson and Reece to get the ball more. If DMC touches the ball any more than 25 times a game, it could be just too much for him. We seriously need him healthy.

I also feel like having Shaughnessy back helped us stopping the run. I am a big fan of this guy. We have some bases, which hopefully RM and Allen use as building blocks.

Now, I'm looking a bit more into the future, but fixing our problems with our right side of the line, acquiring a good TE, and a corner could do wonders for our team. Also, Palmer being 32 and not particularily ''great'' I wonder if our management looks at Matt Barkley or Landry Jones, or maybe sit on Palmer another season and get someone in a future draft.

All in all, I think that DMC, Moore, DHB, Ford (probably out for the season though), Wiz, Streater (maybe I'm jumping the gun though), VELDHEER give us reason to be excited for what is coming up with our Raiders.

All in all, we are rebuilding this season. At least it feels like we're taking steps in the right direction with proper management.

Raiderz4Life
09-14-2012, 01:48 PM
I really am wary of Streater. I think once Moore, Ford(maybe), DHB, Criner, and Hagan get healthy and get it together Streater may be the one left out. It's between him and Hagan I think.

I would love a TE. I miss Zach Miller a ton, and I'm sure Carson misses him too even though he never had him. So a nice TE would be nice.

I'm not big on Landry Jones, I think that'll be a whiff on whoever takes him. I would go 1. Barkley 2. Wilson 3. Bray and 4. Smith at QB tbh.

Also, what's up with Barksdale? Is he showing anything? I would imagine he can take the RT spot from Barnes.

RaiderNation
09-14-2012, 02:49 PM
Really excited to see Wiz getting 1st team reps, expecting to see a much more threatning offense with DMC likely getting better run blocking opening up things for Palmer. Moore should without a doubt at least make the passing offense open up.

Barksdale has be disappointing from what I've seen and read, Barnes is still likely our best option at RT.

Xonraider
09-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Also, what's up with Barksdale? Is he showing anything? I would imagine he can take the RT spot from Barnes.

Well if he can't beat Barnes then... well... that says a lot.

Raiderz4Life
09-14-2012, 05:53 PM
Well if he can't beat Barnes then... well... that says a lot.

Yea true. Sad, I had really high hopes for him. Thought him, Wiz, and Veldheer and maybe even Campbell would set us up with a real nice OL. I think Barksdale can still improve though, only 23. But I can only have hope in him for so long.

RaiderNation
09-15-2012, 11:31 PM
Jacoby Ford to IR :\

Raiderz4Life
09-15-2012, 11:33 PM
Can't say its too surprising. If its the same injury DMC had last year, then this was expected. It knocked DMC out all year too.

Victory X
09-16-2012, 06:11 PM
**** Reggie McKensie, **** Dennis Allen, **** Greg Knapp, **** Greg Knapp, **** Greg Knapp. How is this an improvement at all. How exactly did we improve by cutting Stanford Routte and Demarcus Van Dyke? Huh Reggie? Yeah lets make sure the average age of our corners is 45 great plan. Let's fire a coach who despite having 3 different starting qb's, half the receivers hurt, our best player gone after game 6, still managed to have a top 10 offense. Then let's hire a D-coordinator whose balls haven't dropped yet to be our head coach. Then let's hire one of the worst ******* offensive coordinators the Raiders have ever had to be our offensive coordinator. Great job McKensie you ugly ****, thanks for taking this team in a positive new direction. Mark Davis you cabbage patch kid looking mother ******, your dad would slap the **** out of you if he were still alive. If you move this team to LA I will hunt you down and slap you myself.

Xonraider
09-16-2012, 11:06 PM
So... maybe next season, I guess? I'm already getting used to saying that.


edit: getting? Sorry... I already got used to saying that.

RaiderNation
09-16-2012, 11:48 PM
Still early to completely give up but it's not pretty that's for sure. We have to find some CB's that can cover, how the hell does Hartline continue to run the same route and beat Lee/Hanson. Not having a #1 WR is what's going to kill this offense, DHB and Moore and nice young weapons but if we had a big target for Palmer to rely on things would look a lot better.

Raiderz4Life
09-17-2012, 12:35 AM
**** Reggie McKensie, **** Dennis Allen, **** Greg Knapp, **** Greg Knapp, **** Greg Knapp. How is this an improvement at all. How exactly did we improve by cutting Stanford Routte and Demarcus Van Dyke? Huh Reggie? Yeah lets make sure the average age of our corners is 45 great plan. Let's fire a coach who despite having 3 different starting qb's, half the receivers hurt, our best player gone after game 6, still managed to have a top 10 offense. Then let's hire a D-coordinator whose balls haven't dropped yet to be our head coach. Then let's hire one of the worst ******* offensive coordinators the Raiders have ever had to be our offensive coordinator. Great job McKensie you ugly ****, thanks for taking this team in a positive new direction. Mark Davis you cabbage patch kid looking mother ******, your dad would slap the **** out of you if he were still alive. If you move this team to LA I will hunt you down and slap you myself.

I always said that this year would be a wash because the new staff wasn't given much to work with. Hue was let go because after Al died he wen't on a massive power trip and he left us handicapped with Carson Palmer. Whatever happens this year I won't, and I believe many people shouldn't, hold it against the new staff. Its not totally their fault and are working with what they're given. You talk about letting DVD and Routt go, well Al and his people didn't do much better letting Zach Miller walk and then totally screwing up the Nnamdi situation. I am willing to give them more than just 2 games before I start calling for heads to roll. Lack of continuity is was has hurt us in the first place.

With that said, I was at work during the game and couldn't really pay as much attention as I would have liked. From what I did get to see though:

Palmer didn't look too bad. The statline isn't too pretty, 24/48 373 1TD 1INT, but I can't say it was the wrong call. Miami really held the run game in check we didn't do jack ****. We couldn't, our line was getting handled. NIP and I mentioned this in the discussion thread and I have been harping about this for almost 3 years now.

Khalif Barnes needs to go. Straight up. like NIP said, how he is the starting RT is inexcusable. We need an upgrade at RT and the guards could use an upgrade as well.

Having Denarius back was nice. He did some good things and if he can stay healthy(which may be a lot to ask since our WRs love to get injured) he'll be beast. DHB has improved massively. The kid is really starting to live up to his draft slot, his catching technique is better as well as his route running. We could use an upgrade at TE but like I said last week, I think Myers can be solid for us.

NIP also mentioned this and I will 2nd it. We need a bruiser at RB. Bush wasn't the most physical guy at Louisville but for Oakland he was a very good short yardage back. He was very big and could hit the hole. We need that again.

The offensive playcalling isn't very impressive and is way too vanilla for my liking. It seems we go from one end of the spectrum to the other, crazy vertical attack to vanilla wco. Need to find a balance, I kinda wish Saunders would have stayed as OC and not just adviser.

On defense, I couldn't really get much of a read. Seemed I had to go do something every time we were on D. From what I did see though, we got thoroughly abused on the ground. I saw some of the worst tackling I had ever seen in my life. That was some pee-wee football stuff it was so bad. Reggie Bush and Lamar Miller both averaged over 6 ypc. Completely unacceptable. I was a big Tommy Kelly fan but I think its time to find someone who can be an upgrade...and more Christo Bilukidi lol. We also need someone to come off the edge, a pure pass rush specialist would be nice since Houston and Shaughnasty aren't exactly great outside pass rushers.

The secondary blows. I haven't been able to key on Tyvon Branch so I'll let someone else chime in on him. But Huff, you bring me nothing but bitterness, has to go. He needs to get replaced with a better FS. The CBs really need an upgrade. They suck massive ass. Period. Burris has to show up every week man, he was practically invisible.

That's really all I got right now, really just a pitiful performance all around. I really don't see us winning one in the next 3 or 4 weeks because of who we're facing but here's hoping we make it competitive.

Xonraider
09-17-2012, 01:57 AM
Peyton is going to carve up our secondary reeeeeeeaaaal good. Twice.

Eazy Picks
09-17-2012, 01:08 PM
**** Reggie McKensie, **** Dennis Allen, **** Greg Knapp, **** Greg Knapp, **** Greg Knapp. How is this an improvement at all. How exactly did we improve by cutting Stanford Routte and Demarcus Van Dyke? Huh Reggie? Yeah lets make sure the average age of our corners is 45 great plan. Let's fire a coach who despite having 3 different starting qb's, half the receivers hurt, our best player gone after game 6, still managed to have a top 10 offense. Then let's hire a D-coordinator whose balls haven't dropped yet to be our head coach. Then let's hire one of the worst ******* offensive coordinators the Raiders have ever had to be our offensive coordinator. Great job McKensie you ugly ****, thanks for taking this team in a positive new direction. Mark Davis you cabbage patch kid looking mother ******, your dad would slap the **** out of you if he were still alive. If you move this team to LA I will hunt you down and slap you myself.

LMAO GOOD RANT!!! I FEEL YA!!!

I still dont think we did the right thing firing Hue. Reggie McKenzie shoulda sat him down and explained to him that he wasnt gonna be running the whole show, but still let him be the head coach. The Carson Palmer thing - I blame entirely on Hue. it was one of the worst trades ive ever seen in all the years ive followed football. but were stuck with palmer either way, no reason we shouldnt at least give Hue the chance to make it work. I really liked Tom Cable and what he did as a head coach for us, and the only rationale we had for letting him go was Hue Jackson was a star in the making as a coach and he would take a HC gig somewhere else if we didnt promote him. Now theyre both gone and ive never been sold on dennis allen and wont be until we see some results. winning an east coast road game would have been a good start.

say what you want about Hue, but our offense was dynamic with him. He got out of control with power after al died cuz there was no one to check him, but he did a lot of good things. Our D fell apart at the end of last year, and our O struggled with injuries and a horrible Carson Palmer, but we still were almost in the playoffs. Bresnahan was the real man to blame on defense, not Hue, and with another year with palmer, I think Hue coulda got the offense going. instead we bring in greg knapp to run a WCO that we dont have the personell for. What did we get Carson for??? To run a big play offense!!! That was the whole idea, Carson, Denarius, DHB, Mcfadden, we run the ball and then we go vertical. Instead were running this silly ass WCO that Carson is not accurate enough to be good at and our receivers are not good enough route runners to be effective at.


Shawntae Spencer and Ron Bartell as our corners...Two decent players with injury issues, but we have faith in them so were just gonna have the two of them and then a bunch of completely unproven young guys. OK, its week 2 and theyre both already hurt. Now were starting guys that other teams released before the season, pat lee and joselio hanson. ill take routt and chris johnson back.

what happened to working with what you have? Instead, MckEnzie has just gutted the team and not put together the pieces of a winning team. We cut Wimbley and it is incredibly apparent we are missing an edge rusher. We let Bush go, and did not bring in anything resembling a power back to replace him. Our RT situation is STILL a mess. BTW, what happened to Joseph Barksdale, i was really hoping hed be the answer. Im pretty much taking this as a lost year. I see us picking very high this year.

NotRickJames
09-18-2012, 12:03 AM
We're running an offense that doesn't fit our QB. Doesn't fit our linemen. Doesn't fit our best offensive player, Darren McFadden.

There's gotta be a helluva lot of blame for that. Greg Knapp is nothing short of atrocious. I don't care if it's two weeks, I'm already ready to see this guy take a hike.

RaiderNation
09-22-2012, 05:41 PM
We're going to see what we are really made of Sunday, if we can't beat a hurt Steeler team at home then I don't see us getting more than 5 wins this year. Pryor will need to see the field somehow soon, give him a package with DMC in the backfield and we might break a run for once.

Raiderz4Life
09-22-2012, 09:03 PM
I don't know how well we're going to look.

Keys to the game are get after Big Ben. Contain is the name of the game. Can't let him run around do what he does. The DBs will have to cover as long as possible.

On offense, DMC has to get going. Then PA....hopefully Red Rocket comes out looking good throwing strikes.

RaiderNation
09-23-2012, 09:17 PM
Great to see a huge win at home, we needed this one bad for us to have any hope for the rest of the year. DMC finally got going at times and the oline looked better today. Huge game for Carson Palmer though, in each game this season IMO he's done all he could with the talent we have and today things finally went our way with the pass attack. DHB had a scary concussion and should be out a few weeks, so I'm hoping either Criner or a F/A are able to fill in his position for the near future.

Stash
09-23-2012, 09:40 PM
I was pleasantly surprised with the win. I figured with the way we've played so far and the injuries on D we had no shot. I guess anything can happen any given Sunday. Palmer was efficient and DMC was making plays. Overall the offense played pretty well considering the Steelers always seemed to have the ball. Something that might have been mentioned once during the game was the lack of Raider penalties. We only had 3 all game.

The pass D got shred up as expected, I'm actually surprised Pitt didn't put up more points. The run defense was never really tested, but I expect the Raiders D will be the downfall of this years team. It's going to be tough going through week 12. Jax/KC/TB are probably the games we have the best chance in during that span, and if we can pull another upset or two against Den/Atl/Bal/NO/Cincy we might not be in that bad of shape.

nobodyinparticular
09-24-2012, 02:31 AM
I'm manic depressive when it comes to the Raiders this year.

Feels good to steal that win. Good to see DMC get going today. Let's see some more of that. The front has been stout, is you would expect with so many guys at 6-5+ ranging from 275-330lbs. But this defense needs a pass rusher as much as anything right now. If the Raiders could have someone who could just get to the QB, the patchwork secondary wouldn't seem so vulnerable.

Give me a Rod Coleman, Derrick Burgess, Chris Clemons, Lance Johnstone type of player. I want a guy who can pin their ears back and get that edge or shoot the gap with the best of them. Someone who will get in the QB's face and make him feel the heat.

Right now, no one on this dline is doing that.

Raiderz4Life
09-28-2012, 07:49 PM
What do you guys think about Sunday?

Our lack of pass rushers worries me. Even a broken Peyton can pick apart our patched up secondary.

Carson may have a solid against theirs though.

nobodyinparticular
09-28-2012, 08:00 PM
What do you guys think about Sunday?

Our lack of pass rushers worries me. Even a broken Peyton can pick apart our patched up secondary.

Carson may have a solid against theirs though.

Blitz all day baby.

Raiderz4Life
09-28-2012, 08:22 PM
Blitz all day baby.

Doesn't seem like we got much of a choice haha

RaidersFan1995
09-29-2012, 08:45 PM
What did you guys think of Willie Smith? I didn't really analyze the game, but he seemed like he did a solid job. Didn't notice much pressure coming from the right side outside of one sack from Woodley.

Stash
09-29-2012, 09:57 PM
I don't recall any problems from that side so I guess he did alright.

Raiderz4Life
09-30-2012, 11:00 AM
Would take a big effort to be any worse than Barnes.

Raiderz4Life
09-30-2012, 06:20 PM
We got absolutely **** on

Stash
09-30-2012, 06:24 PM
O-line couldn't protect for **** today. Constant pressure on Palmer every time he dropped back while Manning had all day.

Raiderz4Life
09-30-2012, 08:30 PM
Not going to go into a huge analysis this time because well, it really hasn't changed at all.

Offense wasn't great, O-line totally **** the bed. Palmer was ok. DMC couldn't get a whole lot going.

Defense was terrible too. Especially the secondary. Huff was starting at CB. HUFF...our starting FS. Our D-line needs an infusion of speed. Nothing but big beefy dudes that can control the line but it doesn't do much good if you can't get after the QB when needed.

Terrible terrible terrible.

RaiderNation
09-30-2012, 08:51 PM
Not many positives to take away from a game like that, our problems on defense will take a few drafts to fix at this rate while we still lack the oline and talent at WR to make any plays on offense. A #1 WR, DE, CB or LB need to be addressed before we make any noise.

Raiderz4Life
09-30-2012, 10:17 PM
It looks like Wiz and Veldheer are the only keepers. At this point I'd say we're OK at LBer. DB and DE are needs. WR isn't the biggest concern, yes we don't have a true #1 but we have a solid group if they can stay healthy. As always, QB is also a need.

Stash
09-30-2012, 10:26 PM
It looks like Wiz and Veldheer are the only keepers. At this point I'd say we're OK at LBer. DB and DE are needs. WR isn't the biggest concern, yes we don't have a true #1 but we have a solid group if they can stay healthy. As always, QB is also a need.
I agree with you about the WR's, but I don't see how QB is a need right now. Obviously Palmer isn't getting any younger and we'll need a QB of the future for once Carson is gone, but I'm fine with him for now. Palmer is definitely not the problem with this team.

I would also add DT as a big need. We haven't had a big run stuffing DT in forever and I don't think it's a coincidence that we've been so bad against the run for so long.

Raiderz4Life
09-30-2012, 10:56 PM
I really want Barkley or Wilson or Smith...but at this point...I'd be more than OK if the Raiders got a Jarvis Jones.

thenewfeature06
10-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Jarvis Jones would be nothing to be mad about.. pass rushers run the league outside of QBs and we could use that to give our secondary a break unless we go the QB route which would also be cool with me.

Stash
10-12-2012, 09:41 PM
Oakland at Atlanta. What are your thoughts?

Some people are giving us a chance at the upset but I honestly don't see it. Not AT Atlanta. The secondary is still crap and they have Julio Jones and Roddy White. Old man Tony can still get it done with his route running. Matt Ryan will tear the D a new one if we can't get after him.

On offense I can see us maybe staying around for a little bit. They're without Grimes and their pass rush isn't all that great either. DMC HAS to get it going for Oakland to have any chance and the receivers have to really step up.

Obviously I don't like our chances. I think our best shot would be to run the crap out of the ball with DMC and Co to try and keep it away from Ryan and the Falcons passing attack. We'd also have to get some key turnovers.

We're gonna get torched though, lol.

Raiderz4Life
10-12-2012, 09:44 PM
lmao I ws like...wait...wtf!! wheere did my post go???

Then I noticed I put it in the wrong thread haha

Stash
10-12-2012, 09:45 PM
Haha, yeah I sorta solved that problem. I figured it would be weird talking Raiders/Falcons in the draft thread.

Raiderz4Life
10-14-2012, 03:10 PM
I think I'd rather get blown out...

Raiderz4Life
10-19-2012, 01:52 PM
If we don't beat JAX I will be sooooo sooooo sad. I will drink my little heart out and cry all night. Especially if Gabbert looks like he belongs in the NFL.

Stash
10-19-2012, 09:07 PM
Our offense as a whole should have a good game, the Jax D isn't very good. They are bottom 10 in both rushing and passing yards/game. I think we should win this game, I feel we are the better team, but I'm still worried. Our defense is almost as bad, so MJD could go off and cause big problems. I hope we bring our big boy pants because I don't want to have to watch another pathetic loss.

Raiderz4Life
10-21-2012, 10:54 PM
Worst game ever. Only positive is they managed a comeback.

But....

CB-Lee SS-Branch FS-Giordano CB-Huff....that is ******* pathetic. This group was making Blaine Gabbert not look so bad. Were getting worked and they can't catch the damn ball to save their asses.

DL jumping offsides all over the freaking place. Terrible, Seymoure had a good game though.

I <3 Burris.

Palmer is a problem. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is delusional. He made so many incredibly stupid decisions that any competent team would have taken advantage of.

Knapp has broken Run DMC.

Streater is a gtdamn enigma.

Blow up the O-line other than Veldheer and Wiz. Our RT keeps getting abused.

Barely beating a MJD-less and Gabbert-less Jax team in OT is freaking pathetic.

I would have loved for Jano to have hit that 64 yarder.

nobodyinparticular
10-22-2012, 01:41 AM
Worst game ever. Only positive is they managed a comeback.

But....

CB-Lee SS-Branch FS-Giordano CB-Huff....that is ******* pathetic. This group was making Blaine Gabbert not look so bad. Were getting worked and they can't catch the damn ball to save their asses.

This... is bad... I like the foursome of Branch/Gio/Huff/Mitchell performing different roles as the safeties. They all bring a little different flavor to the secondary and having all four of them adds for good variety to the defense. But the secondary is really suffering because of the lack of corners right now. Let's keep in mind the Raiders are playing castoffs from the Eagles, Browns and Packers right now after they got rid of 4 CBs this offseason. It's a downright pathetic situation.

If there are 2 things that break the foundation of this season, it's the absolutely terrible CB play and the god-awful offensive line in the ZBS. The rest of this team may be a 9-win team, but those two units are the units of a 0-win team. I'm amazed the Raiders pulled out 2 ugly wins this year already and barely gave up last week's game in Atlanta.



DL jumping offsides all over the freaking place. Terrible, Seymoure had a good game though.

Seymour wasn't the only dlineman who put in a good game. Houston actually led the team in tackles.

Can I just say, I'm ready to give this man significant minutes at DT? Don't get me wrong, he does a fine job at DE, but I need to see him in the middle a lot more. Go back and look at him in Texas and watch the difference between how he looks on the inside vs the outside. If it has to be a 4-man rotation inside between Seymour, Kelly, Houston and Bryant, that's fine. But get this man on the inside.

And find me a real pass rusher on the outside. Shaughnessy is a stud who can do everything, but I want to see someone who can just wreak havoc on the outside.


I <3 Burris.

QFT.

Palmer is a problem. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is delusional. He made so many incredibly stupid decisions that any competent team would have taken advantage of.

I don't know what the heck is Palmer's problem. He will look like a stellar QB for 95% of the plays and then he'll just have another 5% of plays that make you go "WTF???" It's Jay Cutler/Jeff George syndrome.

I'm not trying to make excuses, but I wonder what it would look like if he had a functioning oline/run game. It's like Palmer feels the need to go into "hero-ball" mode.

Knapp has broken Run DMC.

I have wasted too much energy on this topic. I was willing to give Knapp a chance to start the season. I really was. I had a very open mind. Now that we are six games into the season, it's time to boot the ZBS.

Streater is a gtdamn enigma.

Not just Streater--the entire WR corps is an enigma. Moore will have a great game and then do nothing. DHB will have absolutely 0 catches and then go off like today. And then there's Derek Hagan and Juron Criner.

Blow up the O-line other than Veldheer and Wiz. Our RT keeps getting abused.

See my thoughts on Greg Knapp and first response in this post. Knapp can take 3/5 of the oline with him. And don't let the door hit you on the collective ass.


Barely beating a MJD-less and Gabbert-less Jax team in OT is freaking pathetic.

Yes... And yet, I will take them where I can get them. Especially considering the way the Raiders have been known to take it in the teeth from bad teams like Miami last year or Jacksonville the year before.

My distaste for the game may be lessened because Roger Goodell force-fed the entire nation the NE/NYJ game today and I didn't get to watch much of the game. I get that games like this can be that much uglier when you actually watch it for the full 4 quarters (if you can stomach it without turning the TV off in disgust).

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Final thoughts, I was bracing for a huge letdown when the Raiders couldn't stick a fork in the Jaguars. I was sure the Jags would drive for a winning field goal in regulation like the Falcons did last week, or just burn the Raiders on a huge return and a couple big plays like the Jags did in 2010.

I can't tell you how excited I was when I saw Houston get the fumble in OT. That just made my day.

Game balls to Houston, Burris and Seymour.

Raiderz4Life
10-22-2012, 07:39 PM
This... is bad... I like the foursome of Branch/Gio/Huff/Mitchell performing different roles as the safeties. They all bring a little different flavor to the secondary and having all four of them adds for good variety to the defense. But the secondary is really suffering because of the lack of corners right now. Let's keep in mind the Raiders are playing castoffs from the Eagles, Browns and Packers right now after they got rid of 4 CBs this offseason. It's a downright pathetic situation.

If there are 2 things that break the foundation of this season, it's the absolutely terrible CB play and the god-awful offensive line in the ZBS. The rest of this team may be a 9-win team, but those two units are the units of a 0-win team. I'm amazed the Raiders pulled out 2 ugly wins this year already and barely gave up last week's game in Atlanta
I agree. I even think Huff makes a decent Nickel CB with one of the other guys filling in for him. But to start him at CB? C'mon now. How this team went from Aso and Routt to what we have now is such a tragedy.


Seymour wasn't the only dlineman who put in a good game. Houston actually led the team in tackles.

Can I just say, I'm ready to give this man significant minutes at DT? Don't get me wrong, he does a fine job at DE, but I need to see him in the middle a lot more. Go back and look at him in Texas and watch the difference between how he looks on the inside vs the outside. If it has to be a 4-man rotation inside between Seymour, Kelly, Houston and Bryant, that's fine. But get this man on the inside.

And find me a real pass rusher on the outside. Shaughnessy is a stud who can do everything, but I want to see someone who can just wreak havoc on the outside.
Yea Houston was a beast too. I would love to see him in for Kelly tbh. I've always been a big Kelly fan but the guy just kills me. He gets so many penalties, sooooo undisciplined. I think his bone-head plays trickle down the rest of the D. Shaughnessy-Seymoure-Houston-*real pass rusher* would be awesome.




I don't know what the heck is Palmer's problem. He will look like a stellar QB for 95% of the plays and then he'll just have another 5% of plays that make you go "WTF???" It's Jay Cutler/Jeff George syndrome.

I'm not trying to make excuses, but I wonder what it would look like if he had a functioning oline/run game. It's like Palmer feels the need to go into "hero-ball" mode [/qoute]

I understand that throwing picks is part of the game. It happens. But I saw him trying to shove passes while getting taken down that almost got picked. Those are incredibly stupid plays that are a huge no-no. With a better team he might be more serviceable but not with the way Oakland is built atm.

[QUOTE=nobodyinparticular;3159589]I have wasted too much energy on this topic. I was willing to give Knapp a chance to start the season. I really was. I had a very open mind. Now that we are six games into the season, it's time to boot the ZBS.



Not just Streater--the entire WR corps is an enigma. Moore will have a great game and then do nothing. DHB will have absolutely 0 catches and then go off like today. And then there's Derek Hagan and Juron Criner.



See my thoughts on Greg Knapp and first response in this post. Knapp can take 3/5 of the oline with him. And don't let the door hit you on the collective ass.
Yea Knapp and that line...should be done. Just done.

Idk but I attribute DHB and Moore a little more on Palmer, but Streater is an enigma when actually targeted. He looks like a bum on some passes and then makes an amazing grab. Brandon Lloyd 2.0? lol But seriously, the whole group is enigmatic.


Yes... And yet, I will take them where I can get them. Especially considering the way the Raiders have been known to take it in the teeth from bad teams like Miami last year or Jacksonville the year before.

My distaste for the game may be lessened because Roger Goodell force-fed the entire nation the NE/NYJ game today and I didn't get to watch much of the game. I get that games like this can be that much uglier when you actually watch it for the full 4 quarters (if you can stomach it without turning the TV off in disgust).
Agreed. I'll take the W as well. It was terrible and ugly but its a W.

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Final thoughts, I was bracing for a huge letdown when the Raiders couldn't stick a fork in the Jaguars. I was sure the Jags would drive for a winning field goal in regulation like the Falcons did last week, or just burn the Raiders on a huge return and a couple big plays like the Jags did in 2010.

I can't tell you how excited I was when I saw Houston get the fumble in OT. That just made my day.

Game balls to Houston, Burris and Seymour.

Watching Burris just bury Henne was my favorite part of the game. The dropped picks were my least favorite. I also thought Jano had that 64 yarder.

RaiderNation
11-02-2012, 01:53 AM
3-4? Not bad, only 1 game behind Denver and I still think we can beat San Diego. Both Curry and Bartell look to possibly being able to play sometime in the next few weeks which will be a boost to an already improving defense. I can't wait to see how Curry fits in with Wheeler, Burris and McClain in the LB rotation.

Raiderz4Life
11-03-2012, 03:25 PM
We're not in a terrible spot....we need wins against, SD, TB, NO, Cleve, KC, and Car.

nobodyinparticular
11-03-2012, 05:03 PM
We're not in a terrible spot....we need wins against, SD, TB, NO, Cleve, KC, and Car.

All are winnable games.

RaiderNation
11-03-2012, 05:54 PM
Once again 8 or 9 wins could get us into the playoffs with how weak the AFC is looking this year. If we win those games above we will be in very good shape.

Raiderz4Life
11-03-2012, 06:08 PM
We also play an injured Balti but not sure we got enough to take advantage of that.

Stash
11-03-2012, 09:10 PM
It's definitely looking better than it was a few weeks ago.

Raiderz4Life
11-03-2012, 09:23 PM
I wouldn't mind picking outside of the top 10 at all. Yeah we won't get a shot at Barkley or Wilson but picking in the teens I think we could nab a CB or DE.

nobodyinparticular
11-05-2012, 03:16 AM
Raiders really need a RT very badly. This team seems to have many quality players, but they have huge holes at RT, OG (x2), DE and CB (x2) that must be fixed. Willie Smith is just embarrassing right now--almost as bad as the Jets' RT situation last year.

It hurts to blow it up with so many solid players, but these positions are so bad, I don't see how the Raiders can patch up these positions to become competitive on a weekly basis. And if they aren't competitive weekly, what's the point of these aging veterans like Seymour and Kelly--not to mention high priced players like McFadden, Palmer and Huff?

Raiderz4Life
11-06-2012, 11:58 AM
Man...*sigh*

We not berry guud.

Stash
11-06-2012, 08:45 PM
The D got absolutely embarrassed. I still feel a DT is one of our biggest needs.

nobodyinparticular
11-07-2012, 03:13 AM
The D got absolutely embarrassed. I still feel a DT is one of our biggest needs.

Meh. A bunch of 60 yard runs isn't exactly on a DT there. Countless 5-10 yard runs, yes.

A game like Sunday you just hope it burns something in the brains of every defender on the team and pray they use it and their pride to never let it happen again.

And yes. That was absolutely embarrassing.

nobodyinparticular
11-07-2012, 03:14 AM
I feel like I have to say it again. We need a RT. And a couple OGs.

From now on, every other post I make will be about a need to replace Willie Smith.

ArkyRamsFan
11-08-2012, 05:30 PM
I feel like I have to say it again. We need a RT. And a couple OGs.

From now on, every other post I make will be about a need to replace Willie Smith.

Rams fan here.

Do you wish ya'll would have kept Barksdale and had given him a chance at RT? I kinda thought he might be better on the right side due to his size and all.

Raiderz4Life
11-09-2012, 02:59 PM
Rams fan here.

Do you wish ya'll would have kept Barksdale and had given him a chance at RT? I kinda thought he might be better on the right side due to his size and all.

Well he apparently couldn't beat out Khalif ******* Barnes, so if that tells you anything.

Raiderz4Life
11-11-2012, 12:59 PM
Thinking at this point BPA at our spot would be good in just about every position.

nobodyinparticular
11-11-2012, 05:50 PM
Thinking at this point BPA at our spot would be good in just about every position.

Pretty much yep.

Even a stud WR. I don't care.

This could be a very long rebuild. Very long. Especially since our only solid-ish players are old farts making a lot of cash.

Stash
11-11-2012, 08:41 PM
Getting our **** pushed in two weeks in a row is always fun.

nobodyinparticular
11-12-2012, 12:14 AM
Can the Raiders please stop with the Special Teams errors? I mean a full field return for a TD and a muffed punt today?

Oh yeah. And the FG run for a TD (at 41-17???).

nobodyinparticular
11-28-2012, 09:59 PM
This thread is probably dead, but...

How about the Raiders' season starting to blow up big time? McClain about to get released? You had to know the **** hitting the fan was a possibility with how bad the losses have been recently.

Stash
11-30-2012, 12:13 AM
Yeah, it's been a weird season. Started out bad, then we got to 3-4 and things looked a little brighter. Now we're looking at a top 5 pick. What a crappy roller coaster ride this turned out to be.

Bringing in a defensive head coach and then having the defense look like a complete joke can't be a good sign either.

Raiderz4Life
11-30-2012, 03:36 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8694231/rolando-mcclain-oakland-raiders-suspended-two-games-team-source

Welp, this is going just dandy. How much longer til we're good again?

RaiderNation
12-01-2012, 12:37 PM
I don't see why he isn't cut yet, I like Burris inside better anyways. All McClain has done is cause problems to the team, and this should hopefully be the final incident before he's gone.

Abaddon
12-04-2012, 09:39 AM
Cutting him would be doing him a favor. Let the ****** rot.

nobodyinparticular
12-11-2012, 01:00 AM
Man, I really wish Clowney were eligible for the draft this offseason. I would drop a #1 overall on that dude.

Raiderz4Life
12-23-2012, 12:07 PM
Why haven't we moved Burris inside? What happened to Curry....thought he would have come back by now.

What happened with Jack Crawford, had hopes for him and is Andre Carter really on our roster? gtdamn.

Stash
12-23-2012, 02:43 PM
I think I remember Curry getting cut.

Raiderz4Life
12-23-2012, 02:53 PM
I knew he was on the PUP list but yea he got cut last month. Oh well.

nobodyinparticular
12-23-2012, 02:56 PM
I could see Seymour, Kelly, McFadden, DHB and Huff all off this team next year. Just so much money tied up in those 5.

Raiderz4Life
12-23-2012, 04:19 PM
Wouldn't miss any of them. Seymour is the best of that group but he's old and no longer worth it. Hell he probably wasn't worth it when we made the trade.

nobodyinparticular
12-23-2012, 04:22 PM
Wouldn't miss any of them. Seymour is the best of that group but he's old and no longer worth it. Hell he probably wasn't worth it when we made the trade.

I'm tired of his frequent personal fouls that cost the team big time. How many times has he been tossed out of games?

And he's good for at least 2 or 3 games missed due to his knee now. He played a total of 16 last year, but he was very limited in most of those.

He is likely to finish the season with 8 this year. No thank you.

Stash
12-23-2012, 08:57 PM
While I think that list of guys are overpaid and some should be replaced, I don't think all of them will be let go in the same offseason. We'd need a hell of a draft and some great FA signings to fill those holes.

Abaddon
12-24-2012, 03:41 AM
Why haven't we moved Burris inside? What happened to Curry....thought he would have come back by now.

What happened with Jack Crawford, had hopes for him and is Andre Carter really on our roster? gtdamn.

Carter has actually been our best pass rushing lineman the last couple games. I'd be all for bringing him back next season as veteran depth.

Burris is our WILL. If anyone gets kicked inside, I'd give Wheeler a look there. That being said, Omar Gaither hasn't been terrible.

Crawford might be relevant next year as a backup 5 tech. TBD.


I could see Seymour, Kelly, McFadden, DHB and Huff all off this team next year. Just so much money tied up in those 5.

Honestly, I'm hoping we hang onto McFadden in spite of his worthlessness in this scheme. He won't bring us anything in trade, but could net us a 4th or 5th round comp pick down the road if we just let him leave as a FA. That's the extent of his usefulness right now, save for maybe being one more reason to kick Knapp to the curb. What a god awful hire...

Seymour's contract voids at the end of the year, so he should net us a decent comp pick in 2014.

Kelly? Clip him. Useless.

DHB and Huff...I'm conflicted when it comes to both. Bey is a hard worker, and I want more guys like that on my team. But the dude just isn't very good, and is really misused in this offense.

Huff is a guy I thought would benefit greatly from an improved scheme. That may yet be the case, but not until we develop some semblance of a pass rush. I'd like to keep him around, but I won't mourn losing him.