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Borat
10-17-2012, 10:54 PM
Week 7:
Thursday, October 18, 2012
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Seattle Seahawks (4-2)
At
San Francisco 49ers (4-2)

Location: The Stick
http://nfl49ers.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/100212-stick-header.jpg

Time: 5:20 pm pst
Line: SF -7.5
Announcers (NFLN): Brad Nessler, Mike Mayock, Alex Flanagan

Sorry for the delay in getting this done. Iím still a bit shellshocked from Sundayís disasters. I feel violated. Let's move on.


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National TV. Home game. Division rival. Control of the division on the line. Deion back on our field, wearing a pimp suit. Love Thursday Night games.

Honestly, this short week couldnít have come at a better time for the 9ers. They can just throw the tape out from Sunday and move on. Nobody wants to watch that again anyway.

I just donít know what to make of this:
http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/the-huddle/2012/08/24/Wilson-2x-large.jpg
Eric Berry, youíre doing it wrong.

Iíll admit it. I didnít think Russell Wilson would amount to anything in the NFL. He has already surprised me. Not with the stats, because, well, they arenít pretty, but by the way he seems to do just enough to pull out a win. Also, he has the power to do this:

http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/A3sOIGiCQAAut72.jpg-large.jpeg

Honestly, I think this game is gonna be about which defense dominates more. I donít like either offense in this game. This may be a showdown of the best two defenses in the league. I like the 9ers front seven more, but Seattle has a better secondary. It may come down to a late turnover. Of course, you kinda need to actually catch the ball to create an interception. Iím looking at you Carlos Rogers. Ö
http://www.csnbayarea.com/common/medialib/223/916323.jpg

Still looking at you Carlos. I'm just glaring at this point. Still looking Ö this is getting awkward. Go ahead and just catch the ******* ball from now on.

These guys donít drop that INT:
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Scary. I miss the days when Jordan Babineaux was flailing around back there and allowing Frank Gore to break 70 yard runs. Those were fun times.

Speaking of Frank. Always fun to see this:
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Frank+Gore+Seattle+Seahawks+v+San+Francisco+cVjlXe xCMS2l.jpg

VS.

This:
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Just keep him away from the cart:
UqMsT_2teus

We havenít really discussed special teams much this year. So let me start it off by saying Ö ours sucks. Seriously. This unit was unreal last year. This year, notsomuch. Really miss this guy:
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/07/00/07/1835515/51/628x471.jpg

And this guy:
http://nfl49ers.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/jonesheader.jpg

I know why theyíre gone, but damn, all phases of the special teams have been not-amazing, which sucks, because last yearís amazing was, well, amazing.

Also. What. The. ****. Akers. You went from this:
http://i.minus.com/iyutEupVh6ejV.gif

To this:
http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/15/54/77/3592128/3/628x471.jpg
Seriously. I donít even know what to say. We kinda, sorta, need you to, you know, make kicks, and stuff. Please.

But hey, there is still hope. It was during Seattleís last trip to The Stick where this happened:
http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/0912/nfl_g_ginn_bl_600.jpg

TWICE!

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I was really hoping that we could see this guy again:
http://www.4vf.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/120808_terrell_owens_seahawks.jpeg

Only because I wanted to see him meet this:
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/459/254/hi-res-137029176_crop_650x440.jpg
Note: Magneto doesnít actually levitate during games. Only in pregame.

Hey T.O., how many teams have bailed on you?:
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Wow, thatís a lot. Kinda sad.
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Hey, at least you have more time to spend with your bastard kids that you hate.

Of all the weeks for a concussion to happen to this guy:
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Uhhhh, we need you badly against this:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NK5VwS_y8dU/TU_KiDonvrI/AAAAAAAAABs/cciuHtMHhQQ/s1600/Clemons.jpg

Staley practiced today so Iím assuming heís cleared all of the NFLís concussion protocol. Heís still listed as questionable though.

And finally, I figured out why Seattle cut T.O. before the season:
http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/files/2012/09/wilsonwarmup-600x399.jpg
Look at the left hand. Dead giveaway. All he needs are assless chaps and a spiked haricut. ďIf it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck ÖĒ right T.O.?

Standings: Hey, check it out, a division game. Remember those?

NFC West
1. San Francisco 49ers (4-2)
1. Seattle Seahawks (4-2)
1. Arizona Cardinals (4-2)
4. St. Louis Rams (3-3)

Special Note:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xqU8aCV8ADc/TTRzdHAuMsI/AAAAAAAAA0w/03pzo3q-UTQ/s1600/sports-pictures-seattle-seahawks-tactics-laughing1.jpg

Ness
10-18-2012, 07:37 AM
Might miss this game. I almost want the passing attack to continue though. I'd still prefer balance of course like we've been doing the majority of the season. Alex just had some ****** throws the other day that were uncharacteristic. The best case scenario would be a monster game from him like he had against the Bills. The Seahawks defense is tough though and I don't see the 49ers passing all over the field.

One thing I don't want seeing is Colin Kaepernick coming in every other down, killing momentum.

And is Brandon Jacobs finally going to be utilized? If his knee is fine like he says it is, why not use him? Is it really because of special teams?

binary
10-18-2012, 10:09 AM
Awesome.

This is a great test for Alex. Keep him in, don't play Kap unless necessary, let's see what Alex can do...if he sucks, season over.

dan77733
10-18-2012, 11:01 AM
Our season starts and ends with tonight and next Monday night in ARZ. Two huge divisional games that we MUST win. Split? No thanks. We MUST win both games. If we lose both games and ARZ/SEA win this/next week respectively to each go 6-2 while we would be 4-4, season is done and quite honestly, if that happens, I would be trading away several players the day after the Cardinals game. While im hoping the 49ers win tonight and next Monday to go into the bye week 6-2, it can just as easily go the other way.

Nice digs at T.O. but im sure that he's laughing at us right back considering the fact that our passing game has been non-existent since he was here and considering that our receivers now (Moss, Crabtree, Manningham and Williams) are better than what we had back then (Owens, Streets, Stokes, Wilson and Lloyd), its actually quite sad and pathetic watching this offense on a weekly basis.

Against good teams, we suck, plain and simple. SEA is a damn good team with a very good defense. Our season continues or possibly ends tonight. Dont know about anyone else here but I think that the game can go either way but im not ready to give up on my 49ers just yet.

Seahawks 20
49ers 24

abaddon41_80
10-18-2012, 11:07 AM
Nice digs at T.O. but im sure that he's laughing at us right back considering the fact that our passing game has been non-existent since he was here and considering that our receivers now (Moss, Crabtree, Manningham and Williams) are better than what we had back then (Owens, Streets, Stokes, Wilson and Lloyd), its actually quite sad and pathetic watching this offense on a weekly basis.

No. Moss is nowhere near what he was a few years ago.

Madirishman
10-18-2012, 11:09 AM
Tonight at the Stick the 49ers are bringing the wood. Seachickens are getting put on the endangered species list. Time to get back to strategic ground and pound with timely passing, dominating both lines, controlling clock and field position. This division is no longer a laughing stock but the 49ers are the bets team in it. Time to prove that tonight.

Brent
10-18-2012, 11:12 AM
If we lose both games and ARZ/SEA win this/next week respectively to each go 6-2 while we would be 4-4, season is done and quite honestly, if that happens, I would be trading away several players the day after the Cardinals game.
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dan77733
10-18-2012, 02:04 PM
No. Moss is nowhere near what he was a few years ago.

Agreed but he's still better than what we had back then after T.O. And quite honestly, you cant even say what he is because Harbaugh barely plays the guy. I said it months ago and I'll say it again, signing Moss was a waste because if he's done, dont see the point in keeping him and if he's not done, it doesnt matter because we dont use him anyway. Harbaugh thought that signing Moss and Manningham plus drafting Jenkins was going to all of a sudden cure our crappy passing game. He was dead wrong. And when you see Moss make a good play, he gets taken out (along with Smith) so obviously, Harbaugh doesnt exactly know what he's doing. He's trying to be too damn cute when he should cut out those crappy gimmick plays and stick to the basics of the WCO. Where the hell are the short inside slants? And no, not to crappy Delanie Walker. Seriously, give me a break. And overall, our WR core is still better now than what it was back then. Aside from T.O., everyone else was average at best. Crabtree and Manningham are easily better than Streets and Stokes and yeah, thats not saying much but that still doesnt change the fact that our receivers now are better than what we had since the T.O. years. And yeah, everyone hates T.O. but at least we had a passing attack. Now, we dont have crap despite all the additions on offense.

dan77733
10-18-2012, 02:09 PM
Brent.....

You read what I said. If we're 4-4 going into the bye and both SEA/ARZ are 6-2 meaning that they would both be three games ahead of us, I would unload several players the day after the Cardinals game because there would be no point in trying to just earn a wildcard spot especially if MIN keeps winning since they have the tiebreaker over us since they beat us. Quite simply, if we're 4-4 and SEA/ARZ are 6-2, I say screw 2012 and concentrate on 2013 because this year would be basically done because while I can see ARZ or SEA collapse in the second half of the season, I dont see both of them doing it and both of them have easier second half schedules than we do.

If the 49ers want to get into the playoffs and win the division, they MUST win tonight and in eleven days on MNF. Otherwise, season is not only a huge disappointment but at the same time, its done as well.

Borat
10-18-2012, 02:34 PM
Brent.....

You read what I said. If we're 4-4 going into the bye and both SEA/ARZ are 6-2 meaning that they would both be three games ahead of us, I would unload several players the day after the Cardinals game because there would be no point in trying to just earn a wildcard spot especially if MIN keeps winning since they have the tiebreaker over us since they beat us. Quite simply, if we're 4-4 and SEA/ARZ are 6-2, I say screw 2012 and concentrate on 2013 because this year would be basically done because while I can see ARZ or SEA collapse in the second half of the season, I dont see both of them doing it and both of them have easier second half schedules than we do.

They're not going to unload these mystery players you haven't identified, because, that doesn't happen in the NFL. This isn't major league baseball. Especially from a Super Bowl contender. Who are you going to replace them with? What the hell am I doing? Why am I even discussing this? Might as well discuss all the sexual positions I'm going to nail Marissa Miller in.


If the 49ers want to get into the playoffs and win the division, they MUST win tonight and in eleven days on MNF. Otherwise, season is not only a huge disappointment but at the same time, its done as well.

The season would not be over. My God. Step back from the ledge. There is a ton of football to be played. The Niners have a great team. Hell, the Giants started 6-2 last year, then lost 4 straight. THEY LOST 4 STRAIGHT. Then they won the Super Bowl.

dan77733
10-18-2012, 02:53 PM
They're not going to unload these mystery players you haven't identified, because, that doesn't happen in the NFL. This isn't major league baseball. Especially from a Super Bowl contender. Who are you going to replace them with? What the hell am I doing? Why am I even discussing this? Might as well discuss all the sexual positions I'm going to nail Marissa Miller in.

I know that its not going to happen but it should if we go 4-4. Super Bowl contender? Not now and especially not if we lose tonight and next Monday. As for the players that I would try to trade, I'll keep that to myself but trust me, every move would make sense especially since a few of the players that I would try to trade are going to be UFA's in a few months and arent worth re-signing.

The season would not be over. My God. Step back from the ledge. There is a ton of football to be played. The Niners have a great team. Hell, the Giants started 6-2 last year, then lost 4 straight. THEY LOST 4 STRAIGHT. Then they won the Super Bowl.

Except for the Niners having a great team, I agree but there's also one other major difference - the Giants won their division with a 9-7 record because DAL, WSH and PHI were all worse. If SEA/ARZ are 6-2 and we're 4-4, im sorry but I dont see us coming back to win a wildcard spot let alone the division especially considering the fact that if we get behind in games, we dont have the passing offense to come back and win. So while I agree with your statement, there's a huge difference between us, SEA/ARZ, our ability to come back and win games when trailing and what the Giants did last year and how their division was.

Borat
10-18-2012, 04:24 PM
I know that its not going to happen but it should if we go 4-4. Super Bowl contender? Not now and especially not if we lose tonight and next Monday. As for the players that I would try to trade, I'll keep that to myself but trust me, every move would make sense especially since a few of the players that I would try to trade are going to be UFA's in a few months and arent worth re-signing.

Yeah, I'm sure we can get multiple first round picks for impending free agents. Maybe something close to the RGIII deal for 8 games of Whitner. Sounds about right.



Except for the Niners having a great team, I agree but there's also one other major difference - the Giants won their division with a 9-7 record because DAL, WSH and PHI were all worse. If SEA/ARZ are 6-2 and we're 4-4, im sorry but I dont see us coming back to win a wildcard spot let alone the division especially considering the fact that if we get behind in games, we dont have the passing offense to come back and win. So while I agree with your statement, there's a huge difference between us, SEA/ARZ, our ability to come back and win games when trailing and what the Giants did last year and how their division was.

Honestly, how many games do you think Arizona is going to win? I'm not concerned with them. I'm not concerned about the season being over either. You are freaking out for no reason. They lost 1 game. That doesn't mean all of a sudden they are going to finish 6-10. Just relax.

Menardo75
10-18-2012, 04:31 PM
Anybody know a website to watch the game on tonight if you don't have NFL Network? I would go to a sports bar but the car is on the fritz.

farfromforgotten
10-18-2012, 04:49 PM
What the hell am I doing? Why am I even discussing this? Might as well discuss all the sexual positions I'm going to nail Marissa Miller in.

Right. I stopped reading Dan's rant after he recommended trading away players. :facepalm: actually, that deserves another :facepalm:

I'm honestly more interested in learning about your sexual position preference when it comes to supermodels, Borat.

Anyways, great work again on this gameday thread, Mr. Borat. That Seahawk secondary is sexy but hopefully we won't have to worry about them much... Let's establish the run game early and rattle their rookie QB with some stellar D and cruise to another "W".

dan77733
10-18-2012, 04:55 PM
Sorry but I said if were 4-4 at the bye week. Not if we're 6-2. Whitner isnt a UFA until March 2014 so he's not on the list and granted, we would most likely just be getting mid or late round draft picks but thats still better than nothing but its actually more about heading in a different direction but enough of that. Just have to wait and see. And im not even pissed that we lost to the Giants, im pissed how we lost. It was sad and pathetic.

But it can all be corrected tonight and in eleven days.

abaddon41_80
10-18-2012, 05:05 PM
Anybody know a website to watch the game on tonight if you don't have NFL Network? I would go to a sports bar but the car is on the fritz.

The first row is the best way to watch any sports event, imo, but otherwise you could just Google it.

:wink: :wink:

Borat
10-18-2012, 05:43 PM
I'm honestly more interested in learning about your sexual position preference when it comes to supermodels, Borat.

I'm thinking that maybe I should do a gameday thread of that.

Ness
10-18-2012, 07:12 PM
Looks like I'll be able to see the game. Yay.

dan77733
10-18-2012, 08:58 PM
We're losing 6-3 at halftime. Thoughts?

My thoughts are as follows -

Offensively, we're pathetic. Smith is scared and overthrowing the receivers when they do get open which in fairness to Smith, has been rare. The OL isnt giving Smith any time. I have never understood how a five man OL always gets beat by a three man DL. Our running game with Gore and Hunter have been our only positive and its rare when I say this - WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO RUNNING THE BALL. It's the only thing thats working. Tosses to Hunter on the outside, power runs with Gore and screens to Gore/Hunter.

Defensively and special teams, pretty much what I expected. Only thing is that our defense is going to have to stop Lynch because that guy is awesome and a pain in our asses. And we were lucky on a few plays when the receivers dropped the pass. If Turbin didnt drop that pass, this could be a ten point lead for SEA but thankfully, its only 3.

dan77733
10-18-2012, 09:24 PM
FINALLY!!! A TD and even more so, a PASSING TD!!!

10-6 :)

49ersfan_87
10-18-2012, 09:50 PM
Regardless of the final outcome, its undeniable- Alex has played poorly in 4 of the last 5 games (Vikings, Jets, Giants, Seahawks) with great game against the Bills.

How long we can accept this poor play?

Brent
10-18-2012, 10:27 PM
how I feel right now:

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/619d6315f5806b69aa4fd6b418d91bea7930b4bc_m.gif

dan77733
10-18-2012, 10:28 PM
Except for Gore, it was an ugly win but a win regardless. And SEA is 0-3 in the division. Didnt know that. Hopefully, we'll be able to go into ARZ, crush Skelton and get revenge for that fluke of a win that they had a year ago.

Menardo75
10-18-2012, 10:29 PM
I live in the northwest so beating Seattle is orgasmic i'm happy.

Borat
10-18-2012, 10:29 PM
Yeah we win!!!! The season isn't over!!!!

Ness
10-18-2012, 10:31 PM
Regardless of the final outcome, its undeniable- Alex has played poorly in 4 of the last 5 games (Vikings, Jets, Giants, Seahawks) with great game against the Bills.

How long we can accept this poor play?

He is definitely in a funk right now. I think it's going to depend on whether the team starts losing games or not. A quarterback change in the middle of the season rarely works. And the team is 5-2. So whatever.

Ness
10-18-2012, 10:32 PM
Yeah we win!!!! The season isn't over!!!!

Doesn't matter. Alex Smith sucks. Doesn't throw it deep.

farfromforgotten
10-18-2012, 10:32 PM
Yeah we win!!!! The season isn't over!!!!

And Dan won't trade away all our players!!!

Borat
10-18-2012, 10:40 PM
And Dan won't trade away all our players!!!

But we could totally have like ten 7th round picks.

Borat
10-18-2012, 10:44 PM
how I feel right now:

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/619d6315f5806b69aa4fd6b418d91bea7930b4bc_m.gif

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/21989_o.gif

VAfy-ya
10-18-2012, 10:50 PM
Ugly win...but I'll take it.

My issue is with Alex. After 6 games, he looks no different than he did last year. The Buffalo game looked good stat wise but he didn't really make any difficult throws or throws that I would say that he's making strides as a passer. He was supposed to evolve. He was supposed to start making throws in tighter windows. He was supposed stop panicking in the pocket, step-up any keep his head up-field and find guys open. He was supposed not turn the ball over, making moronic decisions with the ball. These last two games, he actually looks worst in than at any point last year. He's not letting routes develop by simply sliding and stepping up in the pocket and buying a few seconds more. And he's making horrible reads. He's leaving alot plays and points on the field. He should be better in this offense than what we've seen and he needs to step it up. He's touch on the deep ball is still non-existent and he looks gun shy in the pocket. Missing Moss in the end-zone, only to throw a int across his body was just unacceptable. I'm not asking him to be Montana....just make the plays that are there to be made.

Ness
10-18-2012, 10:52 PM
Ugly win...but I'll take it.

My issue is with Alex. After 6 games, he looks no different than he did last year. The Buffalo game looked good stat wise but he didn't really make any difficult throws or throws that I would say that he's making strides as a passer. He was supposed to evolve. He was supposed to start making throws in tighter windows. He was supposed stop panicking in the pocket, step-up any keep his head up-field and find guys open. He was supposed not turn the ball over, making by moronic decisions with the ball. These last two games, he actually looks worst in than at any point last year. He's not letting routes develop by simply sliding and stepping up in the pocket and buying a few seconds more. And he's making horrible reads. He's leaving alot plays and points on the field. He should be better in this offense than what we've seeing and he needs to step up. He's touch on the deep ball is still non-existent and he looks gun shy in the pocket. Missing Moss in the end-zone, only to throw a int across his body was just unacceptable. I'm not asking him to be Montana....just make the plays that are there to be made.

So is it time to start Kaepernick then?

VAfy-ya
10-18-2012, 10:54 PM
So is it time to start Kaepernick then?

No...its time for Jimbaugh to get in his ear and tell him he needs to step it. Its time for Roman to get on him in the film room and tell him he has to be better. Not saying they aren't doing this but still, somebody needs to get on him and get his ass in gear.

Borat
10-18-2012, 10:54 PM
You guys can discuss Alex all you want.

I'm going to try and enjoy the win for a day or two before I get depressed about the QB situation.

Ness
10-18-2012, 10:56 PM
No...its time Jimarbaugh to get in his ear and tell him he needs to step it.

Well yelling at someone isn't going to make them play better. That was Singletary's mantra. Harbaugh went after Peyton Manning (apparently) in the offseason and Kaepernick was drafted. I think he is going to get his shot after two things start happening: the 49ers start losing games based on quarterback play and/or the 49ers lose a playoff game because of quarterback play.

Kaepernick will then get his shot and we'll find out if he's either the future or not. Unfortunately by that time a lot of the talent we have now on our team might be gone or diminished.

Ness
10-18-2012, 10:57 PM
You guys can discuss Alex all you want.

I'm going to try and enjoy the win for a day or two before I get depressed about the QB situation.

It's really hard for me to enjoy a win like this though with that situation looming. I can't just "block it out". It's kind of like "who cares", because you know you can't keep winning games like this forever.

Borat
10-18-2012, 10:59 PM
It's really hard for me to enjoy a win like this though with that situation looming. I can't just "block it out". It's kind of like "who cares", because you know you can't keep winning games like this forever.

Nahhhhh. I'm going to enjoy the win and make a complete ass of myself by ripping the **** out of everyone else's teams on Sunday in the gameday thread. Good times soon.

VAfy-ya
10-18-2012, 11:00 PM
Well yelling at someone isn't going to make them play better. That was Singletary's mantra. Harbaugh went after Peyton Manning (apparently) in the offseason and Kaepernick was drafted. I think he is going to get his shot after two things start happening: the 49ers start losing games based on quarterback play and/or the 49ers lose a playoff game because of quarterback play.

Kaepernick will then get his shot and we'll find out if he's either the future or not. Unfortunately by that time a lot of the talent we have now on our team might be gone or diminished.

I'm not saying yell. I'm saying he has to let him know his play has to improve and he has to be better for this team to reach its maximum potential. He's holding back the offense. Something tells me Jimbaugh just pats him on the back and tells him 'its ok, we'll get'em next play'. No more of that, if that is the case.

abaddon41_80
10-18-2012, 11:01 PM
I didn't feel like Alex played that poorly, outside of the overthrow of Williams early and the terrible interception when he had Moss open. The Seahawks have one of, if not the best cornerback duo in the league and they were blanketing our receivers, sometimes with questionable amounts of contact. Other QBs have posted pretty low Y/A against the Seahawks this year as well.

Brady: 6.8
Rodgers: 5.7
Romo: 6.3
Newton: 4.9

Smith was at 6.1. The Seahawks have more interceptions than they have allowed passing touchdowns this year, every one of those QBs had the same amount of touchdowns as picks against them.

Ness
10-18-2012, 11:03 PM
Nahhhhh. I'm going to enjoy the win and make a complete ass of myself by ripping the **** out of everyone else's teams on Sunday in the gameday thread. Good times soon.

You know they're just going to play the "Your quarterback SUX" card right?

Brent
10-18-2012, 11:04 PM
I'm going to try and enjoy the win for a day or two before I get depressed about the stupid SF Giants situation.
fixed that for you

Ness
10-18-2012, 11:05 PM
I didn't feel like Alex played that poorly, outside of the overthrow of Williams early and the terrible interception when he had Moss open. The Seahawks have one of, if not the best cornerback duo in the league and they were blanketing our receivers, sometimes with questionable amounts of contact. Other QBs have posted pretty low Y/A against the Seahawks this year as well.

Brady: 6.8
Rodgers: 5.7
Romo: 6.3
Newton: 4.9

Smith was at 6.1. The Seahawks have more interceptions than they have allowed passing touchdowns this year, every one of those QBs had the same amount of touchdowns as picks against them.
Well Alex is going to be doubted until he plays a good defense, and plays it well plain and simple. I should a good team that is. The Cardinals on the road are next. We shall see how it plays out.

Borat
10-18-2012, 11:08 PM
You know they're just going to play the "Your quarterback SUX" card right?

And I'll be like, "Yeah, I agree. Let's go back to making fun of your team now."

Borat
10-18-2012, 11:09 PM
fixed that for you

Boner has been lost. Thanks.

abaddon41_80
10-18-2012, 11:11 PM
Well Alex is going to be doubted until he plays a good defense, and plays it well plain and simple. I should a good team that is. The Cardinals on the road are next. We shall see how it plays out.

If people expected Alex to come out and light up this Seahawks defense they were sadly mistaken. Nobody lights up this defense passing the ball.

49ersfan_87
10-18-2012, 11:16 PM
I didn't feel like Alex played that poorly, outside of the overthrow of Williams early and the terrible interception when he had Moss open. The Seahawks have one of, if not the best cornerback duo in the league and they were blanketing our receivers, sometimes with questionable amounts of contact. Other QBs have posted pretty low Y/A against the Seahawks this year as well.

Brady: 6.8
Rodgers: 5.7
Romo: 6.3
Newton: 4.9

Smith was at 6.1. The Seahawks have more interceptions than they have allowed passing touchdowns this year, every one of those QBs had the same amount of touchdowns as picks against them.

Its not just this game...its 4 of the last 5. And he's yet to have even a good game when facing even a decent defense this year.

abaddon41_80
10-18-2012, 11:22 PM
The Packers have at least a decent defense. If Alex Smith can play great against bad defenses, like the Bills and Lions, good enough against average ones, like the Packers, and decent against good ones, like the Seahawks and Vikings and Jets, then I am happy. The game against the Giants was an anomaly.

49ersfan_87
10-18-2012, 11:27 PM
The Packers have at least a decent defense. If Alex Smith can play great against bad defenses, like the Bills and Lions, good enough against average ones, like the Packers, and decent against good ones, like the Seahawks and Vikings and Jets, then I am happy. The game against the Giants was an anomaly.

I don't see the Jets, Vikings, and Seahawks games as "decent", i see them as below average if not worse, and i guess thats where the fundamental disagreement comes from.

BTW, whats up with our rush defense...thats two straight 100 yard rushers at home. Besides Alex, that was the main thing i was disappointed in tonight.

Borat
10-18-2012, 11:28 PM
Wanted to mention that I'm very proud of myself for not posting any pics of midgets when describing Russell Wilson. It took a lot of internal struggling to pull that off. I think I've grown.

Ness
10-18-2012, 11:36 PM
If people expected Alex to come out and light up this Seahawks defense they were sadly mistaken. Nobody lights up this defense passing the ball.

That's true. But good quarterbacks how those kinds of games at least against teams that seem formidable. It's not so much the passing statistics or anything more so than missing open receivers for big plays. Kyle Williams open for a touchdown, or Randy Moss open in the back of the endzone with Gore on the film pointing him out to him. LOL that's going to be a really awkward moment for Alex in the film room in the coming days. Gore literally had to point him out.

VAfy-ya
10-18-2012, 11:38 PM
I didn't feel like Alex played that poorly, outside of the overthrow of Williams early and the terrible interception when he had Moss open. The Seahawks have one of, if not the best cornerback duo in the league and they were blanketing our receivers, sometimes with questionable amounts of contact. Other QBs have posted pretty low Y/A against the Seahawks this year as well.

Brady: 6.8
Rodgers: 5.7
Romo: 6.3
Newton: 4.9

Smith was at 6.1. The Seahawks have more interceptions than they have allowed passing touchdowns this year, every one of those QBs had the same amount of touchdowns as picks against them.

I dont care about any of that. You cant just always quote stats to justify everything. Watch the All 22 film. We have guys coming open alot of times, but like Alex has shown over and over, he has a time clock in his head and when it gets past 2 seconds, or his first read isnt open, he has a hard time simply keeping his head upfield seeing secondary routes and guys coming open. Instead he runs around in circles, looking to get outside the tackles to avoid pressure that isnt even there. I counted at least 3 throws in the game tonight without even needing the 22 flim, for huge gains where if he had just simply stepped up in the pocket and not checked down so quickly, he would have converted some first downs for huge gains. Alot of times, he looks like a rookie or a second year QB, trying not to make a mistake. He should be past that. I have no problems with him if he drives the ball deep on good reads and DB makes a play and a ball gets intercepted. What I don't like are him throwing ints on balls which should have never been thrown. 3 of his 5 ints this year have come on those such throws. The other two were just horrible throws that could have been completions if he had thrown a better ball.

Watch the throw CK makes to MM right before halftime against the G-Men. He throws it over the underneath coverage to a spot, with coverage over the top closing in. Those are throws Alex refuses to make but should be routine for a starting QB in this league. I'm not saying start CK because he still isnt ready but Alex is gun shy and its holding back the offense. Alex lacks confidence throwing into tighter windows that most starting QBs wouldn't think twice about.

phlysac
10-18-2012, 11:44 PM
I didn't feel like Alex played that poorly, outside of the overthrow of Williams early and the terrible interception when he had Moss open. The Seahawks have one of, if not the best cornerback duo in the league and they were blanketing our receivers, sometimes with questionable amounts of contact. Other QBs have posted pretty low Y/A against the Seahawks this year as well.

Brady: 6.8
Rodgers: 5.7
Romo: 6.3
Newton: 4.9

Smith was at 6.1. The Seahawks have more interceptions than they have allowed passing touchdowns this year, every one of those QBs had the same amount of touchdowns as picks against them.

Get out of here with rationalization.

49ersfan_87
10-18-2012, 11:45 PM
I dont care about any of that. You cant just always quote stats to justify everything. Watch the All 22 film. We have guys coming open alot of times, but like Alex has shown over and over, he has a time clock in his head and when it gets past 2 seconds, or his first read isnt open, he has a hard time simply keeping his head upfield seeing secondary routes and guys coming open. Instead he runs around in circles, looking to get outside the tackles to avoid pressure that isnt even there. I counted at least 3 throws in the game tonight without even needing the 22 flim, for huge gains where if he had just simply stepped up in the pocket and not checked down so quickly, he would have converted some first downs for huge gains. Alot of times, he looks like a rookie or a second year QB, trying not to make a mistake. He should be past that. I have no problems with him if he drives the ball deep on good reads and DB makes a play and a ball gets intercepted. What I don't like are him throwing ints on balls which should have never been thrown. 3 of his 5 ints this year have come on those such throws. The other two were just horrible throws that could have been completions if he had thrown a better ball.

Watch the throw CK makes to MM right before halftime against the G-Men. He throws it over the underneath coverage to a spot, with coverage over the top present. Those are throws Alex refuses to make but should be routine for a starting QB in this league. I'm not saying start CK because he still isnt ready but Alex is gun shy and its holding back the offense. Alex lacks confidence throwing into tight windows most starting QBs would be comfortable with.

We have a mini bye week, with our next game on MNF @ Arizona in Week 8. Then a real bye week, before a sunday game against the Rams.

With all the extra preparation time, do you think we'll see more dedicated Kaepernick packages that deal with the pass? I mean, i don't want a 2 QB system, and i don't think Kaep is ready to start, nor do i think Alex will be benched anyways...but we just aren't getting any production out of our starting QB and its beyond frustrating now. I'm actually surprised that people seem OK with Alex's play.....

phlysac
10-18-2012, 11:48 PM
I dont care about any of that. You cant just always quote stats to justify everything. Watch the All 22 film.

I'm not even trying to argue but now everyone sounds like Greg Cosell. Can you post stills of all of these occasions where receivers are simply running open?


More and more seem to see "all-22" but noone ever provides visual for those that don't have access. Tonight, for instance, every play they showed (aside from the INT) receivers were blanketed.

Borat
10-18-2012, 11:52 PM
I'm actually surprised that people seem OK with Alex's play.....

Not OK with it. I just understand what Alex is. What I don't understand is why people think Alex is going to morph into Aaron Rodgers. I certainly didn't expect that. Really, I just want Alex to do what he does and also not turn the ball over. That's all I expect. If you think he's going to progress into a top QB, then you'll be here b!tching about him quite a bit.

VAfy-ya
10-19-2012, 12:02 AM
We have a mini bye week, with our next game on MNF @ Arizona in Week 8. Then a real bye week, before a sunday game against the Rams.

With all the extra preparation time, do you think we'll see more dedicated Kaepernick packages that deal with the pass? I mean, i don't want a 2 QB system, and i don't think Kaep is ready...but we just aren't getting any production out of our starting QB and its beyond frustrating now. And i don't see Harbaugh benching Alex.

We dont need him to be benched. We can win and go far with Alex if others around him dont falter, so to speak. But he needs to evolve as a QB in this scheme. I would use that time for Jimbaugh to ramp up his 'QB whisperer' mantra and prepare Alex as best he can for the road ahead. If he doesn't, better hope we as a defense play flawlessly in the playoffs because if we struggle even a little on offense, I can't see this team overcoming anything bigger than a 10 point lead against a playoff defense. And no team is going to be as dumb as Gregg Williams was with coverage late. Their going to force Alex to make throws into tight windows or touch throws deep and right now, I have zero faith that he can do either.

I don't think he played particularly bad at all against the Packers or the Lions because it was early. And even the Vikes game wasn't really bad, just meh. But every game from then on, I've been waiting to see him improve and aside from the Bills game, he's looked much worst.

Ness
10-19-2012, 12:09 AM
The All-22 card. I'm an expert now!

VAfy-ya
10-19-2012, 12:13 AM
I'm not even trying to argue but now everyone sounds like Greg Cosell. Can you post stills of all of these occasions where receivers are simply running open?


More and more seem to see "all-22" but noone ever provides visual for those that don't have access. Tonight, for instance, every play they showed (aside from the INT) receivers were blanketed.

Stills? Nah, but its some links for some All-22 film up on the webzone forums. I watched replay of all the games with a friend of mine who's also a Niner fan and who gets the All-22 replay. But the evidence is there.

49ersfan_87
10-19-2012, 12:16 AM
Not OK with it. I just understand what Alex is. What I don't understand is why people think Alex is going to morph into Aaron Rodgers. I certainly didn't expect that. Really, I just want Alex to do what he does and also not turn the ball over. That's all I expect. If you think he's going to progress into a top QB, then you'll be here b!tching about him quite a bit.

I guess i was just dissapointed because he looked like he turned a corner Week 1 and 2....

VAfy-ya
10-19-2012, 12:16 AM
The All-22 card. I'm an expert now!

Never said I was a expert. But I trust my eyes. You dont even need the all 22 to see that Alex hears footsteps and bails way too often and doesn't allow deeper routes to develop.

49ersfan_87
10-19-2012, 12:18 AM
Anyways, how about our run offense? The Seahawks have a top run D and we just ran all over them.

On another forum i go to, several Seahawks fans came into the 49ers sub-forum and literally laughed at 49ers fans who suggested we should run the ball. Talked about how they shut down the Patriots, so we stood no chance. All i have to say is LOLhawks.

Our pass D is also much improved. I think we're top 5 in passing yards allowed.

VAfy-ya
10-19-2012, 12:22 AM
Not OK with it. I just understand what Alex is. What I don't understand is why people think Alex is going to morph into Aaron Rodgers. I certainly didn't expect that. Really, I just want Alex to do what he does and also not turn the ball over. That's all I expect. If you think he's going to progress into a top QB, then you'll be here b!tching about him quite a bit.

Not a top QB but c'mon....is it too much to ask for him throw a decent deep ball with touch or slide up in the pocket once in awhile instead of bailing as soon as he sees the ends get up-field? Or for him to see two breaking routes come open and for him to take the deeper one for a change? If it is, then I'll dead all my dreams of this team being a SB contender and shut-up right now.

Ness
10-19-2012, 12:25 AM
Like I said we'll see come playoff time. Assuming this team makes the playoffs. Alex with either be praised for good play in a win, or grilled for his performance in a loss. I don't see our defense being the main reason we lose a game.

VAfy-ya
10-19-2012, 12:33 AM
Trust me, you wont see me bring up Alex anymore. Its all out there now....sink or swim time for him and this offense. We shall see...

Borat
10-19-2012, 12:37 AM
Not a top QB but c'mon....is it too much to ask for him throw a decent deep ball with touch or slide up in the pocket once in awhile instead of bailing as soon as he sees the ends get up-field? Or for him to see two breaking routes come open and for him to take the deeper one for a change? If it is, then I'll dead all my dreams of this team being a SB contender and shut-up right now.

Nah, it's not too much to ask. But you're not going to like the answer. His ceiling has been reached. He is who he is at this point. He's not going to all of a sudden get better at these things. We just need to hope he can limit the mistakes and hope some guys step up and make plays.

Ness
10-19-2012, 12:49 AM
Nah, it's not too much to ask. But you're not going to like the answer. His ceiling has been reached. He is who he is at this point. He's not going to all of a sudden get better at these things. We just need to hope he can limit the mistakes and hope some guys step up and make plays.

If that is your permanent stance on Alex I'd probably be boasting to start Kaepernick. You can't just stick with the status quo and assume it won't come back to bite your team.

Ness
10-19-2012, 12:56 AM
Trust me, you wont see me bring up Alex anymore. Its all out there now....sink or swim time for him and this offense. We shall see...

I just hope Harbaugh doesn't "hide" him from this point on.

Borat
10-19-2012, 01:15 AM
If that is your permanent stance on Alex I'd probably be boasting to start Kaepernick. You can't just stick with the status quo and assume it won't come back to bite your team.

It's not really a stance. That's just how I've felt about him for a couple of years. What we get right now is what people should expect. He's not going to be better than this. You just gotta hope he doesn't turn the ball over.

Ness
10-19-2012, 01:25 AM
It's not really a stance. That's just how I've felt about him for a couple of years. What we get right now is what people should expect. He's not going to be better than this. You just gotta hope he doesn't turn the ball over.

But are you comfortable as a fan with our quarterback situation? If you aren't I'm surprised you wouldn't want a change.

Borat
10-19-2012, 01:49 AM
But are you comfortable as a fan with our quarterback situation? If you aren't I'm surprised you wouldn't want a change.

No, definitely not "comfortable." I wanted Manning.

But I don't want Kaep in there yet, so Smith it is. This team can win the Super Bowl with Smith, not with Kaep. He's not ready yet. I'm re-watching the game right now and this Seattle secondary is super good. There weren't a lot of open receivers on most plays. He missed those first 2 deep balls pretty badly though lol.

Couple of things:

1. Tufuaku wearing number 48 looks amazing. Looked faster and devastating.
2. Boone is the real deal. That guy is a stud. He was flatout dominating at both levels.

Brent
10-19-2012, 05:26 AM
I sure do enjoy watching Gore pile up yards against Seattle.

abaddon41_80
10-19-2012, 07:15 AM
I don't see the Jets, Vikings, and Seahawks games as "decent", i see them as below average if not worse, and i guess thats where the fundamental disagreement comes from.

Considering how good those defenses are, especially against the pass, they are average games. The average QB against those defenses,

Packers:
58.3%
6.2 Y/A
1.6 TD (10)
1.3 INT (8)
76.8 QB rating

Smith:
76.9%
8.1 Y/A
2 TD
0 INT
125.6 QB rating

Lions:
64.7%
6.8 Y/A
1.4 TD (7)
0.4 INT (2)
92.7 QB rating

Smith:
64.5%
7.3 Y/A
2 TD
0 INT
107.7 QB rating

Vikings:
62.3%
5.8 Y/A
1.4 TD (7)
0.5 INT (3)
83.7 QB rating

Smith:
68.6%
5.8 Y/A
1 TD
1 INT
81.1 QB rating

Jets:
54.9%
6.5 Y/A
1 TD (6)
1.2 INT (7)
70.2 QB rating

Smith:
57.1%
6.8 Y/A
0 TD
0 INT
78.1 QB rating

Bills:
60.3%
7.4 Y/A
2.2 TD (13)
1 INT (6)
91.8 QB rating

Smith:
75%
12.6 Y/A
3 TD
0 INT
156.2 QB rating

Seahawks:
57.8%
5.8 Y/A
0.9 TD (6)
0.9 INT (6)
72.5 QB rating

Smith:
60.9%
6.1 Y/A
1 TD
1 INT
74.5 QB rating

I consider a QB to be performing decently if he does as well as what the average QB does against a certain defense. The only two games where Smith played worse than the average QB against a certain defense this year were the Vikings game, just slightly worse, and the Giants. In all five other games he has outperformed the averages against that team, by a lot in three of those cases.

Does Alex Smith have his problems? Definitely. I agree that he is at times very gunshy, though a lot of it has to do with receivers simply not being open downfield, and I agree that he sometimes hears "footsteps" and bails too early. But every QB has their problems. Alex isn't Peyton or Brady or Rodgers. He isn't even close. He is a borderline top 10 QB who the 49ers can win the Super Bowl with.

Madirishman
10-19-2012, 10:30 AM
Wanted to mention that I'm very proud of myself for not posting any pics of midgets when describing Russell Wilson. It took a lot of internal struggling to pull that off. I think I've grown.

The force is strong with you Borat.

Unless, of course, the Niners had lost in a Packers-style situation.

Then, bring on the midget photos.

binary
10-19-2012, 10:35 AM
Alex is exhausting, I"m done thinking he's anything other than a short-term guy, but I will say I was impressed with how he moved the ball vs. that D in the second half.

I can't blame anybody but Alex for this miscues though, KW was wide open and Moss was even more open, I"m just tired of it.

Madirishman
10-19-2012, 10:48 AM
Definitely will take the win but it was overall uninspiring to watch. A somewhat ugly win is still a win and that is the most important thing. Special teams coverage unit and return game looked improved, which was starting to look like a black eye on this team. Thought the D could have even done more, but their pressure (not sacks) were on Russell was consistent. When they finally started to pressure more up the middle in the kid's face, they had better results. Alex's numbers weren't horrendous but he hasn't been passing the eye test for me thee last couple games. His confidence looks a little shaken within the last 2 games. I'm hoping he continues to progress, much like what we saw the second half of last year an the playoffs, and with his demeanor early this season.

dan77733
10-19-2012, 11:24 AM
We have a bigger concern than Smith and thats Gore. He has bruised ribs. Anyone know how long it takes to fully heal from that? Will he be 100% in ten days against the Cardinals in ARZ?

As for Smith, I wish Harbaugh would stop putting Kaepernick in after a big play whether its after a Smith pass or a Gore run. You just knew that after the big run by Gore and Smith being taken out, something bad was going to happen. To me, its stuff like this that needs to be eliminated. As tired as I am of Smith, im even more tired with all this gadget/trick/wildcat plays. Against a better overall team (like the Giants), this crap wont work and it barely works against lesser teams.

Sometimes, I think that Harbaugh is sabotaging his own QB just to justify the possibility that Smith gets released in the off-season and he goes with Kaepernick who after all, is his own drafted guy. This may sound far fetched but thats just the feeling I get when I see Harbaugh sub in Kaepernick after a big pass or run play.

On another note, if Turk is now a FB and Dobbs is a TE, who the hell is left on the DL?

Ness
10-19-2012, 12:11 PM
Sometimes, I think that Harbaugh is sabotaging his own QB just to justify the possibility that Smith gets released in the off-season and he goes with Kaepernick who after all, is his own drafted guy. This may sound far fetched but thats just the feeling I get when I see Harbaugh sub in Kaepernick after a big pass or run play.

It is kind of strange, but I have an uneasy feeling that Harbaugh and company are trying to make Kapernick a bigger part of the gameplan on Sundays to try and push him towards the starting role. Or rather, get him as much experience as possible. I'd be shocked though if the 49ers coaching staff went that far though and were so unsure about their QB position. Kaepernick usually comes in on gadget plays anyways.

binary
10-19-2012, 12:25 PM
The Kaepernick plays need to end too, im tired of that crap. The guy is a freaking project with a weird throwing motion, he's not a natural thrower. We are going to have serious QB problems in a couple years, we better win now. Kap is like a taller Troy Smiff.

Ness
10-19-2012, 12:29 PM
I'd wish Harbaugh would just go full throttle with Alex. Don't hide him, don't sub in Kaepernick. Just roll with him good or bad. Go pass happy if you want. Or run the ball. Just don't hide him.

abaddon41_80
10-19-2012, 12:30 PM
Ugh. I try to make a comment about both QBs last night and everyone goes right to the Alex Smith part. I even put Wilson's stats first to try and prove it wasn't just about Smith. Then I always get dragged into arguments with people who refuse to objectively look at the numbers.

Turning over a new leaf right now. I will no longer even talk about Alex Smith outside of the 49ers board. Dead serious this time. I want you all to negative rep me from now on if I do.

Borat
10-19-2012, 12:44 PM
Ugh. I try to make a comment about both QBs last night and everyone goes right to the Alex Smith part. I even put Wilson's stats first to try and prove it wasn't just about Smith. Then I always get dragged into arguments with people who refuse to objectively look at the numbers.

Turning over a new leaf right now. I will no longer even talk about Alex Smith outside of the 49ers board. Dead serious this time. I want you all to negative rep me from now on if I do.

I think that's a good idea ... again.

You can't beat the mob.

abaddon41_80
10-19-2012, 01:17 PM
Like I said, this time I am serious. Don't care what is said over there anymore. People are just so irrational when it comes to discussions about Alex Smith outside of this forum. They have their opinion on him and it doesn't change no matter what factual information is presented to them. It seems like a lot of them, I won't mention any names, just ignore the information altogether and resort to flaming and thinly-veiled insults. I thought this was an intelligent forum where you could have an intelligent debate supported by facts and stats. Clearly I was wrong in applying this to Alex Smith.

Borat
10-19-2012, 01:21 PM
We should do something to instantly change the subject. Like anytime someone mentions Alex, we immediately start talking about Frank Gore.

Poster: Alex Smith sucks so much dong
Borat: Frank Gore is amazing
Poster: Smith is a busdriver
Borat: Gore is a Humvee with gold-plated awesome
Poster: But I'm trying to tell you how much Smith sucks
Borat: I agree that Gore is a monster

abaddon41_80
10-19-2012, 01:23 PM
We should do something to instantly change the subject. Like anytime someone mentions Alex, we immediately start talking about Frank Gore.

Poster: Alex Smith sucks so much dong
Borat: Frank Gore is amazing
Poster: Smith is a busdriver
Borat: Gore is a Humvee with gold-plated awesome
Poster: But I'm trying to tell you how much Smith sucks
Borat: I agree that Gore is a monster

lol I'm down

dan77733
10-19-2012, 01:30 PM
It is kind of strange, but I have an uneasy feeling that Harbaugh and company are trying to make Kapernick a bigger part of the gameplan on Sundays to try and push him towards the starting role. Or rather, get him as much experience as possible. I'd be shocked though if the 49ers coaching staff went that far though and were so unsure about their QB position. Kaepernick usually comes in on gadget plays anyways.

I understand that Kaepernick will eventually be our starting QB since that's what he was drafted to be but the experience he's getting is the opposite of what it should be. He should be getting experience being a pocket passer but with the ability to scramble/run if/when he has to. Gadget plays arent going to improve him as a QB and I dont want him to be a Tebow type. He has one hell of an arm and honestly, his accuracy has been pretty good and better than expected which is why if he's going to get playing time and experience, it should be to throw the ball down the field which he has done here and there but he's more of a gadget guy and I hate that. If he cant become a Young/McNabb/Cunningham/Culpepper type QB, we're going to always have a problem with the QB position.

The Kaepernick plays need to end too, im tired of that crap. The guy is a freaking project with a weird throwing motion, he's not a natural thrower. We are going to have serious QB problems in a couple years, we better win now. Kap is like a taller Troy Smiff.

I wouldnt go that far. I dont care how his throwing motion looks. He has a cannon for an arm and his accuracy isnt as bad as you would expect it to be. My problem with Kaepernick is that they're using him just for gadget plays where as he should be used to throw the ball down field but yet, have the option to run if the receivers are covered. The problem is that the majority of the time, he just runs and thats not going to do anything for the offense.

I'd wish Harbaugh would just go full throttle with Alex. Don't hide him, don't sub in Kaepernick. Just roll with him good or bad. Go pass happy if you want. Or run the ball. Just don't hide him.

I agree with this. I would only bring in Kapernick to take a shot deep but not after a big play from Smith because it would take away the momentum.

Either way, our QB situation is unsteady at best and thats not a good thing. Add in the gadget plays with Kaepernick and subbing him in from time to time and well, its not going to get any better than what it is.

Menardo75
10-19-2012, 02:34 PM
I understand that Kaepernick will eventually be our starting QB since that's what he was drafted to be but the experience he's getting is the opposite of what it should be. He should be getting experience being a pocket passer but with the ability to scramble/run if/when he has to. Gadget plays arent going to improve him as a QB and I dont want him to be a Tebow type. He has one hell of an arm and honestly, his accuracy has been pretty good and better than expected which is why if he's going to get playing time and experience, it should be to throw the ball down the field which he has done here and there but he's more of a gadget guy and I hate that. If he cant become a Young/McNabb/Cunningham/Culpepper type QB, we're going to always have a problem with the QB position.



I wouldnt go that far. I dont care how his throwing motion looks. He has a cannon for an arm and his accuracy isnt as bad as you would expect it to be. My problem with Kaepernick is that they're using him just for gadget plays where as he should be used to throw the ball down field but yet, have the option to run if the receivers are covered. The problem is that the majority of the time, he just runs and thats not going to do anything for the offense.



I agree with this. I would only bring in Kapernick to take a shot deep but not after a big play from Smith because it would take away the momentum.

Either way, our QB situation is unsteady at best and thats not a good thing. Add in the gadget plays with Kaepernick and subbing him in from time to time and well, its not going to get any better than what it is.

Omg Frank Gore is so good.

Madirishman
10-19-2012, 03:28 PM
Stat from .com:

The 49ers are 17-0 under Jim Harbaugh when Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter combine for 20 carries.

Doesn't seem like that hard of an equation to me.

Brent
10-19-2012, 04:47 PM
Omg Frank Gore is so good.
Yeah, let's all just go back to the late '00s where all we ever talked about was how awesome Frank Gore is.

Did you know that Frank Gore is awesome? Let me show you:

SEFGoI7Uro0

EDIT: I am sorry, I cannot resist posting in that Alex Smith thread. I'll fall on that sword, you guys.

abaddon41_80
10-19-2012, 08:19 PM
49ers coaching staff implying Smith's finger is bothering him?

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/10/19/harbaugh-implies-smiths-finger-has-been-factor-in-past-2-games/

Could just be Harbaugh being Harbaugh, it seems like at least two of the four picks were just terrible decisions, but Alex does seem to be throwing high a lot in the past couple of games. That would be consistent with an injured middle finger, he wouldn't be able to fully grip the ball so it would have a tendency to sail. Meh

Ness
10-19-2012, 08:42 PM
Maybe his finger is bothering him, who knows. The last two games he's made bad reads a good amount of the time and/or just hasn't located the open guy. Maybe his finger has effected some his long balls, which haven't been on point since the Bills game. Maybe not. I'm more concerned about his instincts and confidence.

It's a real shame Alex hasn't turned the corner. When he is on point, he looks pretty good, but it's always something with this guy.

dan77733
10-19-2012, 09:03 PM
Stat from .com:

The 49ers are 17-0 under Jim Harbaugh when Frank Gore and Kendall Hunter combine for 20 carries.

Doesn't seem like that hard of an equation to me.

RUN RUN RUN!!! Until it fails, RUN RUN RUN!!!

abaddon41_80
10-19-2012, 09:42 PM
I don't know if it has even been mentioned yet but our offensive line was fantastic last night. The Seahawks had 17 sacks entering the game, and where basically living in opposing backfields, but they only had two sacks against us and they were both coverage sacks. Not to mention how great the entire line was in the running game

Borat
10-19-2012, 10:29 PM
Yeah the OL was dominating at the point of attack. My boy Boone had a near perfect night. He won almost every down and destroyed LBs on the trap plays.

phlysac
10-19-2012, 11:15 PM
We should do something to instantly change the subject. Like anytime someone mentions Alex, we immediately start talking about Frank Gore.

Poster: Alex Smith sucks so much dong
Borat: Frank Gore is amazing
Poster: Smith is a busdriver
Borat: Gore is a Humvee with gold-plated awesome
Poster: But I'm trying to tell you how much Smith sucks
Borat: I agree that Gore is a monster

Yeah it's gotten to the point now where there is FAR, FAR, FAR more anti-Smith trolling than Smith-homerisms.

Let us use it against them.

Brent
10-19-2012, 11:17 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1103/nfl-memorable-wonderlic-scores/images/frank-gore_N9Q4768.jpg

oh yeah

phlysac
10-19-2012, 11:17 PM
49ers coaching staff implying Smith's finger is bothering him?

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/10/19/harbaugh-implies-smiths-finger-has-been-factor-in-past-2-games/

Could just be Harbaugh being Harbaugh, it seems like at least two of the four picks were just terrible decisions, but Alex does seem to be throwing high a lot in the past couple of games. That would be consistent with an injured middle finger, he wouldn't be able to fully grip the ball so it would have a tendency to sail. Meh

I hope Gore's ribs are better.

phlysac
10-19-2012, 11:18 PM
Maybe his finger is bothering him, who knows. The last two games he's made bad reads a good amount of the time and/or just hasn't located the open guy. Maybe his finger has effected some his long balls, which haven't been on point since the Bills game. Maybe not. I'm more concerned about his instincts and confidence.

It's a real shame Alex hasn't turned the corner. When he is on point, he looks pretty good, but it's always something with this guy.

Gore ran like man possessed.

Borat
10-19-2012, 11:27 PM
gore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brent
10-19-2012, 11:40 PM
btw, watching this makes me so excited about our future backfield:

IA49BKXLJd4

dan77733
10-20-2012, 12:26 AM
Like Hunter a lot but wish James would get some playing time because they're going to be our RB combo once Gore is done.

Ness
10-20-2012, 12:53 AM
Frank Gore has rocked the bald fade forever. And it always looks good. I wish I had his barber.

abaddon41_80
10-20-2012, 08:01 AM
Guys, guys. We can talk Alex Smith here. The Frank Gore thing is only for discussions about him elsewhere.

phlysac
10-20-2012, 08:59 AM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2171/stiffarm.jpg

Ness
10-20-2012, 09:56 AM
Imageshack doesn't work outside the US. Shame I can't see what you posted.

VAfy-ya
10-20-2012, 12:09 PM
Like Hunter a lot but wish James would get some playing time because they're going to be our RB combo once Gore is done.

James is fine where he is. He's time will be next year, like AJ. Nothing wrong with that. He isnt needed at this point.

As for Mr. Gore, outside of Roger Craig's '88 and '85 seasons, his 2006 season was the best I've ever for witnessed for a Niner RB. That line was the best run-blocking O-Line I can recall. That offense saw 8 in the box alot and they still mauled teams. And Gore had young legs and took some huge runs all the way to the house. And Norv Turner was a master play caller that season. Still one of the better Niner OC's I can recall, especially considering the talent he had to work with.

And Boone is having not only having a Pro-Bowl season, but I'd argue a All-Pro season. I've never been so happy to be wrong. Had big reservations about him at OG but he has been the best O-Lineman so far, by a wide margin.

phlysac
10-21-2012, 11:51 AM
It's hilarious that it seems some are getting frustrated with the gore pics and posts. I thought the 49ers' fans were the "sensitive" ones.

Borat
10-21-2012, 03:18 PM
It is oh so glorious. I'm enjoying it.

dan77733
10-21-2012, 03:28 PM
What the hell are you guys talking about???

Borat
10-21-2012, 03:31 PM
What the hell are you guys talking about???

This:

We should do something to instantly change the subject. Like anytime someone mentions Alex, we immediately start talking about Frank Gore.

Poster: Alex Smith sucks so much dong
Borat: Frank Gore is amazing
Poster: Smith is a busdriver
Borat: Gore is a Humvee with gold-plated awesome
Poster: But I'm trying to tell you how much Smith sucks
Borat: I agree that Gore is a monster

Although it's just easier to drop a sexy Gore pic rather than even talk about Gore.

Ness
10-21-2012, 04:49 PM
It's hilarious that it seems some are getting frustrated with the gore pics and posts. I thought the 49ers' fans were the "sensitive" ones.

Really? Where?

phlysac
10-21-2012, 05:33 PM
Really? Where?

:gtfo: with Frank Gore....this is the Alex SMith thread!! lol

What's up with the random Frank Gore gallery?

Yes. We can also stop with the Frank Gore pics.

and Rosebud has been posting pics of Alex being sacked by the Giants. Browns' TE Alex Smith also had his pic posted.

I wonder if they know that no 49ers' fans are still talking about Alex Smith but the thread is going-and going-and going?