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Whistler6
04-18-2010, 01:03 PM
0 outs in the 1st for Marquis and the Brewers chase him from the game.

See, now this is the kind of start I like. When Craigory Counsell rocks a grandslam, things are looking up (Fist pump). Now if only Davis and the bullpen can keep the Nats to less than 10.

How excited am I allowed to be right now, considering the Brewers are playing to salvage 1/3 against the Washington Nationals?

cvv84
04-18-2010, 01:12 PM
Both starting pitchers today have ERA in the 12s. One of them is going to rebound today. Please please please let it be Davis.

Well Marquis is officially over 20.00 now and Batista is nearing 12.00.

And with 1 swing of the bat Counsell has more HRs and RBIs than Fielder. :D

cvv84
04-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Is it just me or does someone make a specatular catch against us every day so far this season?

cvv84
04-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Is 10 runs going to be enough?

the_legend_killer
04-18-2010, 02:29 PM
Depends on how long Macha keeps Davis in. Macha seems to have a boner for not taking pitchers out.

umphrey
04-18-2010, 02:38 PM
I was wrong, both pitchers lived up to their ERA

Whistler6
04-18-2010, 02:47 PM
Well Marquis is officially over 20.00 now and Batista is nearing 12.00.

And with 1 swing of the bat Counsell has more HRs and RBIs than Fielder. :D

I think Prince has realized that. He's getting a little too impatient up there.

Whistler6
04-18-2010, 02:53 PM
Gregg Zaun...Where's Johnny Estrada when you need him? We could use that speed.

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cvv84
04-18-2010, 03:23 PM
Gomez and Zaun bail out our horendous pitching there.

princefielder28
04-18-2010, 03:25 PM
Gomez and Zaun bail out our horendous pitching there.

Thankfully! Not a good choice by the Nationals' 3rd base coach either...that ball was hit hard straight at the strongest arm in our outfield; killed their rally

cvv84
04-18-2010, 03:32 PM
Casey's just been teasing Ryan Zimmerman all game. So glad to see the real 2008 NL ROY keep the hitting going into this season. Lets tack on some runs though!

Whistler6
04-18-2010, 10:55 PM
FSN's Final Score just said Randy Wolfe's brother is an MLB empire. No real point to posting this, but kind neat I suppose.

Oh, and thank God they finished the Nats off today. McGehee deserves all the love he is getting. He has been fantastic thus far.

GB12
04-18-2010, 11:19 PM
FSN's Final Score just said Randy Wolfe's brother is an MLB empire. No real point to posting this, but kind neat I suppose.

Oh, and thank God they finished the Nats off today. McGehee deserves all the love he is getting. He has been fantastic thus far.

They've mentioned that many many times during Brewers games in the past. And that was before he was on the team; I can't imagine how many times we'll hear this year.

Oh, and no e in Wolf.


Just realized this post might come off sounding kind of mean. My intentions aren't to be a dick about it.

Whistler6
04-18-2010, 11:30 PM
They've mentioned that many many times during Brewers games in the past. And that was before he was on the team; I can't imagine how many times we'll hear this year.

Oh, and no e in Wolf.


Just realized this post might come off sounding kind of mean. My intentions aren't to be a dick about it.

No worries, I probably would have done the same. I usually take the time to make sure I'm spelling a name correctly, but must be a lazy night. Glad I know our own players well.

:rolleyes:

cvv84
04-20-2010, 06:59 PM
6-0 Brewers. Chased the starter again very early. Lets hope 6 is enough :\

Whistler6
04-20-2010, 08:39 PM
Braun's hitting .365 in front of Prince, and McGehee is hitting .396 just behind him. I cannot imagine how deadly the lineup will be once Prince comes around.

I know it's the Pirates, but great start by Bush tonight. 7 IP, 3 hits. Definitely deserves a tip of the cap.

cvv84
04-21-2010, 07:27 PM
Now THIS is how we should be playing!

Escobar hits a triple to left.

Weeks hits a 2 run HR to left.

Gomez hits a double to center.

cvv84
04-21-2010, 07:52 PM
This kid is going to be hitting 2nd in no time.

http://strotty.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/alcides.jpg

Triples in back to back ABs!

Then Guert send a HR out to right and its 7-0 Brewers. Hopefully this team in starting to click. Gallardo was pretty sharp too.

Whistler6
04-21-2010, 07:56 PM
Zach ****ing Duke just about ended Rickie's season. Wow, I'd be pissed right now if I were Weeks. And to reiterate what you were saying, Escobar blazes around the bases. Leading off an inning twice with a triple is so huge.

And Zach Duke came into this game 2-0 giving up 3 earned runs all season. Great offensive approaches.

Whistler6
04-21-2010, 07:59 PM
On a side note, I love seeing Prince laughing and congratulating Gerut on his 1st HR. Still homer-less, Fielder isn't going to let that stop him from being a good teammate and having fun.

the_legend_killer
04-21-2010, 08:00 PM
Man, isn't it nice to have a shortstop that isn't slow as hell on the basepaths?

cvv84
04-21-2010, 08:05 PM
Prince looks on point though. This AB is really showing how improved he's become at fighting off pitches to get to something he wants. Its only a matter of time until he unleashes the bat.

Whistler6
04-21-2010, 08:46 PM
Man, isn't it nice to have a shortstop that isn't slow as hell on the basepaths?

I'd say the same about the catcher position, but in this case we need Zaun to get on base before I can start ripping on how painfully slow he is. I can live with brick feet if the the guy can hit. Hmm...

Carlos V's change-up is filthy.

princefielder28
04-21-2010, 10:28 PM
On a side note, I love seeing Prince laughing and congratulating Gerut on his 1st HR. Still homer-less, Fielder isn't going to let that stop him from being a good teammate and having fun.

Manny Parra is probably the only one that could piss off Prince

Boston
04-21-2010, 10:30 PM
I absolutely cannot wait for the Brewers to call up Zack Braddock at some point this year.

Whistler6
04-21-2010, 10:57 PM
Manny Parra is probably the only one that could piss off Prince

Hah, good times.

Whistler6
04-21-2010, 11:32 PM
<<<<<< Finally I found someone able to shrink this down for me.

Boston
04-22-2010, 12:25 PM
Ryan Braun is ridiculous.

GB12
04-22-2010, 02:59 PM
Manny Parra bats in the 20th run of the game.

That's something we'll never be able to say again.

jtsteward
04-22-2010, 03:01 PM
Ugly ugly game from the from the Bucs side. Dear god that is awful. Hopefully a game like this can get everyone loose.

Finally everyone can breath a sigh of relief, Prince got his homer. He won't go without one this season (sarcasm ha) No need to fear. Wolf again looked solid, not spectauclar but gets the job done. Right now Braun is seeing the baseball as well as anyone in baseball.

roidrunner
04-22-2010, 03:01 PM
if hoffman blows this save i am going to hang myself with a sausage rope.

Whistler6
04-22-2010, 05:13 PM
WOAH, I am bummed I had to miss this game. Reading a boxscore and seeing "20-0" is a pretty good consolation prize though. Hello Prince...Lookout, he's about to go on a tear.

More impressive thand 35+ runs un a 3-game span? Wolf and Gallard give up 0 runs. Sure Yo only pitched 5 innings and Wolf 6, but the bullpen was right there to lock up the rest.

A nice warm up to draft night eh?

cvv84
04-22-2010, 05:29 PM
WOAH, I am bummed I had to miss this game. Reading a boxscore and seeing "20-0" is a pretty good consolation prize though. Hello Prince...Lookout, he's about to go on a tear.

More impressive thand 35+ runs un a 3-game span? Wolf and Gallard give up 0 runs. Sure Yo only pitched 5 innings and Wolf 6, but the bullpen was right there to lock up the rest.

A nice warm up to draft night eh?

It is the Pirates but its nice to see a complete series out of what has been a struggling Brewers club.

My phone was going nuts with updates. An interesting titbit from todays blowout win too:

Brewers win, 20-0. Their biggest margin of victory in a shutout and matching the biggest margin (22-2) in any game. It also was the worst loss in Pittsburgh history, and this is the Pirates' 124th season.

The Brewers outscored the Pirates, 36-1

umphrey
04-22-2010, 06:00 PM
I checked MLB.com and it said something about Milwaukee and the big 2-0. I thought we won 2-0. I was pretty shocked when I went to the box score.

umphrey
04-23-2010, 01:52 PM
Zambrano is in the bullpen for the cubs now...whaaaaaaaa????

Whistler6
04-23-2010, 03:29 PM
Zambrano is in the bullpen for the cubs now...whaaaaaaaa????

17 million for a head-case who has no real role in the bullpen? And I thought we were getting rocked having to pay for the Supp-inator. Bah, Suppan and Zambrano...

It's a shame we have to open up the 2010 Cubs-Brewers series at Miller Park with Suppan vs. Dempster. Dempster has always locked up the Brewers, as far back as I can recall, especially with that lame glove flip before each pitch.

cvv84
04-23-2010, 07:32 PM
Damn do I hate Suppan.

Whistler6
04-23-2010, 09:07 PM
Damn do I hate Suppan.

Correction, the corpse of Jeff Suppan. None of the amateur Brewer fans saw this one coming did they? I guess 12-13 million buys a pretty long leash.

:confused:

princefielder28
04-24-2010, 08:19 AM
I was at the game last night and Prince's hit in the first was definitely a home run.

Packystan
04-24-2010, 04:21 PM
I was at the game last night and Prince's hit in the first was definitely a home run.

I agree. On replay, you could clearly see the ball disappear behind the wall. Dont know what the umps were looking at, but it was a bad call.

umphrey
04-24-2010, 04:24 PM
Correction, the corpse of Jeff Suppan. None of the amateur Brewer fans saw this one coming did they? I guess 12-13 million buys a pretty long leash.

:confused:

Replace him with Parra or Narveson already. They might be inconsistent and blow games sometimes, but Suppan does that every game. Also Parra/Narveson could hit a groove at some point and start putting together consecutive quality starts while Suppan just gets worse.

Whistler6
04-24-2010, 05:12 PM
I was at the game last night and Prince's hit in the first was definitely a home run.

1. I'm sorry you had to spend a Friday night watching Suppan pitch, even though Miller Park is always a good time.

2. ESPN and FSN's replays cleary showed Prince's rip to be a homerun. Right off the yellow. No doubt. Unfortunately it didn't matter in the long run.

Whistler6
04-24-2010, 05:18 PM
Replace him with Parra or Narveson already. They might be inconsistent and blow games sometimes, but Suppan does that every game. Also Parra/Narveson could hit a groove at some point and start putting together consecutive quality starts while Suppan just gets worse.

Exactly. Parra or Narveson might be erractic, but atleast there's a chance for 6-7 innings and 2 runs. When Suppan is on the mound, you KNOW he is going to give up 6 runs in 6 innings.

I hate to continue to bash a guy who has done nothing to make me hate him, but I can't help but think they are sticking with him primarily because of his salary. He was shelled all of last year, all of spring, in his minor league rehab start, and now twice in 2 starts this year.

It's been plain for all to see he just doesn't have it. I just wish I knew what the coaches see in him that we don't.

Whistler6
04-24-2010, 05:20 PM
On the plus side, Escobar could very well put some heat on Jason Heyward for ROY. I don't think he has a chance to win it, but if Alcides continues to hit and get on base the way he has, he will make some noise around the league.

cvv84
04-24-2010, 05:37 PM
On the plus side, Escobar could very feel put some heat on Jason Heyward for ROY. I don't think he has a chance to win it, but if Alcides continues to hit and get on base the way he has, he will make some noise around the league.

I'd like to see Escobar in the 2 hole if he keeps hitting and getting on base like he has.

umphrey
04-24-2010, 05:42 PM
I wouldn't want to put the pressure on him this year. He's doing well where he's hitting now so I wouldn't change.

cvv84
04-24-2010, 05:45 PM
I wouldn't want to put the pressure on him this year. He's doing well where he's hitting now so I wouldn't change.

The kid can handle it. He barely made rookie status for this season and putting him inbetween Weeks and Braun will get him some pitches to hit. Just like when Hardy was his most productive and then proceeded to fall off when taken out of the 2 spot.

Whistler6
04-24-2010, 08:44 PM
3 times they've had the leadoff man on base, and failed to score a run. To make it worse, Carlos Zambrano ended the 7th inning and is now on deck to bat with the bases loaded. Come on Narveson!

I really like the idea of Escobar in the 2 spot. He has definitely shown he can handle it. But Umphrey has a good point in not messing up an already good thing. Your right though Cvv, he would undoubtedly see better pitches to hit than down at the bottom of the order.

Edit: ...And now Z hits a sac-fly...4-0 Cubs. Ugh, I hate when Chicago comes to Milwaukee and beat up on the Brewers. Well I hate losing as it is, but Cubs' fans bragging about Miller Park being "Wrigley North" just flat out pisses me off.

umphrey
04-24-2010, 10:06 PM
Fielder's killing the offense right now. Doesn't help that the catcher position has been hitting as well as your average pitcher. But our best hitter who's batting 4th is not helping to produce runs. It would be one thing if he wasn't getting good pitches and taking walks, but he leads the team in strikeouts right now and he's tied with Counsell, a part time player in RBIs. He made his name on HRs and he has 1 in 62 ABs. How we pounded the Pirates for 36 runs you'd expect him to get in on the action, but he was pretty quiet.

A quality start by Doug Davis at 6 innings and 2 ERs wasted by the offense taking the day off and a subpar effort from the bullpen.

Boston
04-25-2010, 12:51 AM
Fielder will come around, I'm not worried about that at all, but the fact that we're essentially getting shut out like this is pretty ridiculous.

cvv84
04-25-2010, 12:29 PM
SUPPAN TO THE BULLPEN!!!! SUPPAN TO THE BULLPEN!!!!


Lets get the parade rolling, this is one step closer to being booted off the team.


Chris Narveson will start on Wednesday.

Whistler6
04-25-2010, 01:20 PM
SUPPAN TO THE BULLPEN!!!! SUPPAN TO THE BULLPEN!!!!


Lets get the parade rolling, this is one step closer to being booted off the team.


Chris Narveson will start on Wednesday.

Christmas come early! Narveson has struggled in the bullpen, but I think (I HOPE) that's because he is built to be a starter. Atleast a young guy like Narveson brings the possibility of a strong start.

Suppan in the bullpen can only mean one thing...His days are numbered. What type of situation would he be brought in for? Either an early game blowout, up or down, or an extra inning game where the bullpen is completely worn out. Hopefully he finds a comfortable spot on the bench.

...It sure would be nice to have our lefty-specialist for specific situations back on the team.

cvv84
04-25-2010, 01:51 PM
How long before Macha and Melvin are on the hot seat?

umphrey
04-25-2010, 01:59 PM
Fielder will come around, I'm not worried about that at all, but the fact that we're essentially getting shut out like this is pretty ridiculous.

Probably, but I have to blame him for some of the losses this season. Our offense is getting shut out and our 1,3,5 hitters are all doing well, with decent production from 2,6,8 the major, major hole is our 4 hitter who's striking out all the time, not hitting for power, not getting on base.

Obviously our pitching has lost us games too, but with Weeks Braun and McGehee playing so well and the supposed $200 million dollar hitter on the roster our offense should be putting runs on the board every game.


Don't like seeing Bush getting hit hard today. I've been thinking he's the 3rd best pitcher on the team and we could get a great year out of him. Lets hope the Cubs are just on their game right now.

GB12
04-25-2010, 02:30 PM
So I guess what we did to the Pirates is now happening to us.

umphrey
04-25-2010, 03:07 PM
So I guess what we did to the Pirates is now happening to us.

What is that, 5 games in a row now where we got through 4 innings and the game was over? Haven't had a good watching game in so long.

princefielder28
04-25-2010, 03:42 PM
How long before Macha and Melvin are on the hot seat?

Melvin's not even close to the hot seat...Macha might be

princefielder28
04-26-2010, 01:29 PM
Ryan Howard is close to signing a five year, $125 million dollar deal

This can't be good news to the Brewers' efforts in trying to extend Prince. Fielder will definitely be looking for more than this and there's no way the team can afford that.

Whistler6
04-26-2010, 08:07 PM
Listening on the radio, while Uecker is calling the game, Gregg Zaun overthrew Gallardo 3 times in a row on a toss simply back to the mound. Haha, takes me back to Major League.

Maybe we'll have to get Zaun a couple off isues of Playboy and talking about women's lingerie. Kind of concering though, especially with 2 men on base at the time.

Whistler6
04-26-2010, 08:34 PM
Wow, what Cubs series? Zach Duke is on his way to being 0-7 lifetime at Miller Park. Yo is pitching well, but his pitch count continues to worry me. The Brewers need him to be a 7 inning guy, not 5 and done.

But in a 7-0 lead, I'm just nitpicking.

GB12
04-26-2010, 08:38 PM
Yo is pitching well, but his pitch count continues to worry me. The Brewers need him to be a 7 inning guy, not 5 and done.

You can thank two errors for that.

umphrey
04-26-2010, 09:13 PM
getting sick of blowouts

I like seeing the team win but it's not entertaining to keep having 4 inning games, 7 in a row now I think.

umphrey
04-26-2010, 09:23 PM
Fielder grounds out with 2 men on. I know, "he'll come around", but sorry, I think it's right to start calling him out. He's behind every regular starter except catcher in virtually every batting statistic. Oh except strikeouts, he's #1 in those. About 20 games into the season now, getting past the area of a slow start or a slump.

Whistler6
04-26-2010, 09:38 PM
Fielder grounds out with 2 men on. I know, "he'll come around", but sorry, I think it's right to start calling him out. He's behind every regular starter except catcher in virtually every batting statistic. Oh except strikeouts, he's #1 in those. About 20 games into the season now, getting past the area of a slow start or a slump.

His OBP is .393, 3rd on the team only behind Weeks and Braun. And tonight he's 1-2. Trust me, I'm having a hard time watching him continue to come up short with runners on, but what else can we do?

I'm sure Prince is harder on himself than any coach could be, and that's probably a bad thing. The longer this slump continues, yes slump, the more his head is going to get messed up.

The silver-lining I suppose would be that they are regularly putting up 7-8 run games with him nearly absent. If...no WHEN he comes around, they should only get better.

...I have to be optimistic!

Whistler6
04-26-2010, 09:56 PM
You can thank two errors for that.

Yeah, but 66 strikes out of 107 pitches isn't the best ratio. He is the type of pitcher who does like to work the count though. Either way, you are right...3 errors is unacceptable. He finished his night strong too with an 11 pitch 6th inning.

GB12
04-26-2010, 10:23 PM
Zaun with 5 RBI tonight and Escobar gets his first HR this year

GB12
04-26-2010, 10:36 PM
Casey McGehee Grand Slam 17-2

Wow

umphrey
04-26-2010, 10:37 PM
Casey McGehee with a grand slam on the first pitch he sees. I'm actually starting to feel a little sorry for the Pirates.

GB12
04-26-2010, 10:42 PM
The lead is so big we're even allowing Suppan to pitch.

Whistler6
04-26-2010, 10:45 PM
OH MAN! I'm following this game on Espn.com, and I thought my screen was on auto-refresh. Seeing 8-2 in the top of the 8th sounded great, but what?! 17-2?

I thought the Crew was pitiful against Chicago, but yeah umphrey I agree...I almost feel sorry for the Pirates too.

Edit: Almost.

umphrey
04-27-2010, 04:27 PM
My condolences to Uecker with his heart surgery coming up. I was happy to hear Fielder, Weeks, Edmonds, and a few others were there to support him.

Whistler6
04-27-2010, 07:20 PM
My condolences to Uecker with his heart surgery coming up. I was happy to hear Fielder, Weeks, Edmonds, and a few others were there to support him.

Yeah absolutely, my prayers go out to Ueck. Surgey alone is enough to freak me out, but heart surgery just sounds scary. I look forward to him rebounding quickly.

Aaron Rodgers and Mark Tauscher took BP at Miller Park tonight. From Rodgers' twitter and the FSN pregame, he knocked 2 out of the ball park compared to only 1 by Tauscher. I love seeing the support of the Bucks and Brewers by some of the Packers.

Barnett was at the Bucks game last night too, and a lot of the guys have been popping up there lately.

Whistler6
04-27-2010, 08:19 PM
After several years of the same exact thing, I have to wonder if Corey Hart will EVER be able to hit a breaking ball low and away...Or atleast learn to lay off it. Man, it's like I'm watching a replay of 2009.

umphrey
04-27-2010, 08:32 PM
Randy Wolf = Hit Machine

Whistler6
04-27-2010, 09:25 PM
Randy Wolf = Hit Machine

Man oh man have Jim Edmonds and Ryan Braun bailed out Wolf tonight a couple of times. Edmonds' over the shouler catch was shades of his younger days, and then Braun followed that up just now with a tough running catch. Hey you're getting you pitchers duel/low scoring/close game finally eh?

I wasn't sure if you meant Wolf giving up hits(10) or getting hits of his own(2). Either way, 8 innings pitched with just 2 runs, and a 2/3 night from the plate...Job well done sir!

Whistler6
04-27-2010, 09:31 PM
After several years of the same exact thing, I have to wonder if Corey Hart will EVER be able to hit a breaking ball low and away...Or atleast learn to lay off it. Man, it's like I'm watching a replay of 2009.

I gotta eat my words...Aside from that bad strikeout, Hart has hit the ball hard all night, even in his outs.

umphrey
04-27-2010, 09:34 PM
Well I was talking about his 2 hits including a double and a run scored, but yeah he pitched great. 8 innings with 2 ER is pretty much the best you can ask for out of any pitcher.

And yes I am glad that for once the game isn't over after 4 innings. And I am also very glad Prince just hit a HR to give us the lead.

Boston
04-27-2010, 09:40 PM
******* awesome. I'd be more pissed right now, but I knew that was going to happen.

Whistler6
04-27-2010, 09:41 PM
Inevitable.

umphrey
04-27-2010, 09:42 PM
Really Trevor? Did you lose it? I'll check later, he probably has as many blown saves as saves now.

umphrey
04-27-2010, 09:45 PM
Can he even keep the score tied?

princefielder28
04-27-2010, 09:47 PM
time to call up Zach Braddock!!!

Boston
04-27-2010, 09:47 PM
We should probably call up Zach Braddock here soon...

Jesus ******* christ Hoffman, are you kidding me?

Whistler6
04-27-2010, 09:47 PM
******* awesome. I'd be more pissed right now, but I knew that was going to happen.

Ronny Cedeno has 24 career homeruns in 1307 at bats. How? How does this happen?

princefielder28
04-27-2010, 09:48 PM
the wheels on the bus are falling off, falling off

Whistler6
04-27-2010, 09:49 PM
(Bleep) (bleep) (bleeeeeeeep) (BLEEP) (sigh)

umphrey
04-27-2010, 09:49 PM
That's it Trevor is done trade him do whatever get him off this f******* team and use a different closer.

Whistler6
04-27-2010, 09:53 PM
the wheels on the bus are falling off, falling off

Kind of random, but I was just watching Dax Shepard sing that to his 5-year old kid on NBC's Parenthood. I don't know, for some reason it made it funnier.

Anyway, R.I.P. Trevor Hoffman's right arm.

the_legend_killer
04-27-2010, 10:34 PM
Could someone kindly remind Trevor Hoffman it's ok to throw first pitch change-ups.

GB12
04-28-2010, 12:10 AM
Of course the game I go to is the one where we decide not to blow out the Pirates. It did have potential to be a great ending with Prince's home run and all, but then, well, you know.

princefielder28
04-28-2010, 01:40 PM
Narveson, minus the first inning, has looked pretty solid. When we're looking at a #5 starter all we can ask is that they put us in a position to win and he's doing that.

GB12
04-28-2010, 03:18 PM
Hoffman has 4 blown saves already and has looked just awful in the process. Might be time to try out a new closer.

badgerbacker
04-28-2010, 05:00 PM
Trevor Hoffman, Jeff Suppan, Doug Davis, and Claudio Vargas all need to be cut. Anyone else?

Boston
04-28-2010, 06:40 PM
Hoffman can't be the closer anymore, it's as simple as that. If Mach marches him out there one more time in a close game he should be fired. ******* pathetic and I'm getting tired of watching this bullpen blow games.

umphrey
04-28-2010, 07:11 PM
Not to put any pressure or anything but if Trevor blows another save in the next series I'm going to find him and Macha and take a crap on their doorstep

Whistler6
04-28-2010, 08:34 PM
I have nothing but... =(

It's just so demoralizing. 9-12 would be 15-6 without Trevor's 4 blown save and Latroy Hawkins' 2. Sorry for piling on, but they have the worst home record in the NL.

Whistler6
04-28-2010, 08:39 PM
Not to put any pressure or anything but if Trevor blows another save in the next series I'm going to find him and Macha and take a crap on their doorstep

Moving Suppan to the bullpen was one thing, but demoting the all-time saves leader and Hall of Fame lock would be another.

It is a must though. If he does continue to roll out "What the Hell's Bells," you might want to arrive early...There will be a line at Macha's porch.

Boston
04-28-2010, 10:15 PM
Moving Suppan to the bullpen was one thing, but demoting the all-time saves leader and Hall of Fame lock would be another.

It is a must though. If he does continue to roll out "What the Hell's Bells," you might want to arrive early...There will be a line at Macha's porch.

Why? Who cares? If your pitching like **** consistently, you deserve to be demoted until you prove you can pitch up to that level again.

Whistler6
04-28-2010, 11:15 PM
Why? Who cares? If your pitching like **** consistently, you deserve to be demoted until you prove you can pitch up to that level again.

That's why my next sentence said, "It is a must."

Whistler6
04-29-2010, 09:16 PM
1 out, Gomez on 2nd, Braun at the plate and Fielder on deck. And yep, Gomez gets picked off... Where was he planning on going already in scoring position with Braun batting?

LeBlanc has already picked off 4 people this season. Do your homework Gomez, and maybe you won't have to sit and wonder why Macha keeps reducing you playing time.

umphrey
04-29-2010, 10:55 PM
Well I guess this team has 3 players. Braun, Gallardo and Wolf. Everyone else padded their stats against Pittsburgh for the most part.

Nonexistent offense, bad starting pitching, and relievers that consistently give away leads. Going to be a long year.

Whistler6
04-29-2010, 11:11 PM
Well I guess this team has 3 players. Braun, Gallardo and Wolf. Everyone else padded their stats against Pittsburgh for the most part.

Nonexistent offense, bad starting pitching, and relievers that consistently give away leads. Going to be a long year.

Atleast Macha found a role for Suppan.

umphrey
04-29-2010, 11:19 PM
Atleast Macha found a role for Suppan.

Yeah, he can eat up innings when we are getting blown out.

Oh wait, that job is for most of our starting pitchers, what will they do?

the_legend_killer
04-29-2010, 11:42 PM
I saw some of the game, then decided watching "Little Giants" was a better use of my time.

umphrey
04-30-2010, 03:33 AM
I think you're probably gonna need a new sig soon.

princefielder28
04-30-2010, 09:59 AM
Fire Ken Macha!!!!

Whistler6
04-30-2010, 02:02 PM
I think you're probably gonna need a new sig soon.

"What the Hell's bells?"

Whistler6
04-30-2010, 02:09 PM
Fire Ken Macha!!!!

See I thought Macha was doing a great job. 6 blown saves could just have easily been 6 wins, making their record well above what I expected. But then I read this...

Hoffman still the closer:


“He’s had plenty of days off. What is the solution to get him back on track? Not pitch him? I’m not sure that that’s it. Has it come to a point in time where we’re in a panic? I don’t think that’s going to happen.”


YES the solution is not pitch him! Until he shows he can get batters out, the solution is absolutely NOT pitch him in the most crucial part of the game. Duh?

“But here again, we’re not at a point where we’re saying we’re taking him out of that role. We might put somebody else in that role for a day or so, but we’re not taking him out.”

Now I agree with "Fire Ken Macha." Maybe he's just saying this, because his other options are just as bad. But my God, Carlos V has yet to give up a run. Atleast trot someone out there who has been getting batters out.

Hoffman has clearly lost all confidence in his changeup. Coffey has not been good this year, yet. And Hawkins could be serviceable, but Villanueva has been one of the few bright spots in the bullpen. It's denial to believe Hoffman, right now, is still the best man for the job.

Here's the rest of the article: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/92469734.html

Whistler6
04-30-2010, 02:16 PM
Yeah, he can eat up innings when we are getting blown out.

Oh wait, that job is for most of our starting pitchers, what will they do?

Watching the game last night, the announcers were talking about how Suppan's fast ball isn't fast enough to throw belt hight. The following pitch was 87 mph, belt high and down the middle...You know the rest.

Sadly the Brewers are basically stuck with what they have right now. The Yankees and Red Sox can go out and make moves to bring in the arm or bat they need. The Brewers can't.

We just have to ride out the storm and hope guys like Davis, Hoffman, and Prince turn this ship around. Otherwise it will be a long summer. I refuse to give up hope...Atleast this early in the year. We need competitive baseball in Milwaukee!

umphrey
04-30-2010, 05:09 PM
With the way our team looks right now even the Yankees couldn't buy a pennant. We've been playing like a bottom 5 of the league.

I think Coffey would make the best closer. I wouldn't pick the guy with the best ERA, I'd pick Coffey because he's handled pressure so well in the past and he's gold for one inning most days.

umphrey
04-30-2010, 05:50 PM
Have a good feeling about today. Bush is pitching, I think he goes 6I with 2-3ER. The rest of the lineup is set like I would set it. Lets see the offense make a statement after getting shut out.

Whistler6
04-30-2010, 09:25 PM
Have a good feeling about today. Bush is pitching, I think he goes 6I with 2-3ER. The rest of the lineup is set like I would set it. Lets see the offense make a statement after getting shut out.

And Casey McGehee is back in the lineup after his wife gave birth yesterday! Hopefully it provides a spark to their offense.

Couple that with Uecker being out of and now recovering from surgery...If there was every a reason for a team to rebound, a baby's birth and successful heart surgery have to be at the top of the list.

the_legend_killer
04-30-2010, 11:02 PM
I think you're probably gonna need a new sig soon.


Not yet, I've still got faith in him. He's not Derrick Turnbow and he's not Eric Gagne, this is different and I think, of the three, the easiest to fix.

princefielder28
05-01-2010, 03:01 PM
Tonight is a game we need to have with Yo on the mound against a struggling Mat Latos. I also wonder how much longer before we see heads start to roll.

GB12
05-01-2010, 03:14 PM
If you're talking about Macha getting fired it's going to be a long long time. It hasn't even been a month of baseball yet. And besides I doubt we'd see him get fired in-season no matter how bad we do.

the_legend_killer
05-01-2010, 05:21 PM
Well, this is where we need Yo to be our stopper. Then again, it would help if the offense put up some runs, because Bush and V pitched well enough to win last night.

umphrey
05-01-2010, 05:59 PM
Well, this is where we need Yo to be our stopper. Then again, it would help if the offense put up some runs, because Bush and V pitched well enough to win last night.

Where the Fjlsdkf@4J%K234K2@J$3234jk is our offense though?

umphrey
05-01-2010, 09:13 PM
Classic Gallardo not only does he have to pitch like an ace he has to hit home runs to win as well

If Fielder keeps playing like this he's going to lose himself a lot of money

cvv84
05-01-2010, 09:17 PM
If Fielder keeps playing like this he's going to lose himself a lot of money

He's always been a slow starter. If this continues for a few more weeks I'd be concerned, but not now.

umphrey
05-01-2010, 09:25 PM
Gallardo is a hell of a hitter he's 3/13 batting just under .250 with 4 RBIs and he just had a 9 pitch at bat. How often do pitchers see 9 pitches at the plate?

umphrey
05-01-2010, 10:15 PM
Will we see Trevor if the 8th is scoreless?

I hope not.

the_legend_killer
05-01-2010, 10:53 PM
We do, and he pitches fine. Win.

cvv84
05-02-2010, 11:50 AM
Brewers name LF Ryan Braun (.355, 5 HRs, 20 RBI) and RHP Carlos Villanueva (13 scoreless IPs) player and pitcher of the month for April.

cvv84
05-02-2010, 05:44 PM
What a terrible day for Milwaukee professional sports. Bucks, spanked. Brewers, spanked.

umphrey
05-02-2010, 08:50 PM
Prince Fielder is on pace for

143 hits
84 walks
13 HRs
58 RBIs
.234 avg, .368 obp, .709 ops

Whistler6
05-03-2010, 09:23 PM
Prince Fielder is on pace for

143 hits
84 walks
13 HRs
58 RBIs
.234 avg, .368 obp, .709 ops

Yeah, but come on. Look at Mark Teixeira:

.189 Average
2 HR's
12 RBI's

And that comes after a 4 hit game yesterday, raising his average from .153. Prince has been terrible so far, but 25 games is still barely a 6th of the season. Without their MLB leading 7 blown saves, this wouldn't be nearly the issue it has become. But you're right, Prince's lack of production is really something to worry about if it continues.

Whistler6
05-03-2010, 09:24 PM
I am more concerned with Ken Macha. I watch his press conferences, and I'm starting to wonder if the guy is alive. PLEASE show some emotion! As crazy as this sounds, I almost wish he would channel Ned Yost...

Just show us you care. He doesn't have to charge the ump and throw a tantrum or chew out a reporter, but even a glare would suffice. Macha's been around longer than I've been alive, and maybe that's not his style, but he's like a robot.

cvv84
05-04-2010, 09:50 PM
Wow, where have these runs been all week??

GB12
05-04-2010, 09:52 PM
Damn the late start made me forget about the game completely. Thanks for bumping this up.

the_legend_killer
05-04-2010, 10:18 PM
So apparently the Brewers can only score 9+ runs in an inning......

umphrey
05-04-2010, 10:20 PM
What the hell is this team Jekyll and Hyde or what? Our stats are becoming completely irrelevant because we are so often involved in blowouts, there's absolutely no consistency in the numbers - standard deviation is incredibly high and the game changes completely after the 4th inning.

cvv84
05-04-2010, 10:21 PM
Narveson looking pretty sharp so far. I hope to find it stayed that way when I wake up tomorrow morning!

Also the Brewers top pick last year, Eric Arnett, was pitching for the T-Rats tonight and threw 3 scoreless innings with 3k's and 1 hit allowed in a rain-shortened game.

princefielder28
05-04-2010, 11:12 PM
now we'll go two weeks without scoring!!!!

Whistler6
05-05-2010, 04:12 PM
What the hell is this team Jekyll and Hyde or what? Our stats are becoming completely irrelevant because we are so often involved in blowouts, there's absolutely no consistency in the numbers - standard deviation is incredibly high and the game changes completely after the 4th inning.

No kidding! They are tied for 7th in runs score for the entire MLB and 8th in HR's, despite the massive drought over the past 2 weeks. We can see the potential when they blow up for 7-8-9 runs in an inning, but the scoreless streaks cancel that out almost completely.

Whistler6
05-05-2010, 04:13 PM
Narveson looking pretty sharp so far. I hope to find it stayed that way when I wake up tomorrow morning!

Also the Brewers top pick last year, Eric Arnett, was pitching for the T-Rats tonight and threw 3 scoreless innings with 3k's and 1 hit allowed in a rain-shortened game.

You ever go to any T-Rats games? Of course watching them fails in comparison to Miller Park and the Crew, but it's a pretty fun and *cheap* consolation.

Whistler6
05-05-2010, 08:15 PM
Dang it! I just got home and flipped on FSN to see the Brewers beating the Dodgers 6-2 heading into the 9th inning. I was all excited until they mentioned Braun having 22 HR's and Parra attempting to pitch the 9th for a complete game...

umphrey
05-05-2010, 08:20 PM
I like our pitching rotation with
1) Gallardo
2) Wolf
3) Bush
4)
5) Narveson

But Doug Davis has to pitch better, just like a 4.50 ERA with 6 inning outings is all we need. Our bullpen is handcuffed by Suppan and Parra. What to do with those 2? Suppan's worthless but would we just dump him and flush the $12 mil down the toilet and waste more money on another reliever if we can even find one? Parra's worthwhile to keep around as a 6th starter but he gives up way too many HRs to be useful out of the pen.

Boston
05-05-2010, 08:23 PM
We have two relievers we could call up right now in John Axford and Zach Braddock that could come up and be effective. I really wish we'd just cut our losses with Suppan and move on.

umphrey
05-05-2010, 08:30 PM
We have two relievers we could call up right now in John Axford and Zach Braddock that could come up and be effective. I really wish we'd just cut our losses with Suppan and move on.

Agreed. He's completely worthless. I wouldn't send him on the mound ever unless the run differential is 5 runs or more. He's our 7th best starting pitcher but even if we had 2 starters go down I'd be scouring the minor leagues and trade markets to find someone instead of him.

I don't think he's on the team for any reason besides no one will trade for him and it looks bad to dump a $12 mil contract.

Too bad Eric Arnett is a half season, minimum-probably more, away.

Edmonds back in RF today. As much as I've bashed Corey Hart he's done well so far. I like him in the lineup most days.

cvv84
05-05-2010, 08:41 PM
You ever go to any T-Rats games? Of course watching them fails in comparison to Miller Park and the Crew, but it's a pretty fun and *cheap* consolation.

I have years ago but haven't gone in awhile. I pay more attention to them though now, obviously because of their affliation with the Brewers, but I was waiting to see some of the top prospects. Hopefully I'll be able to catch a few games this year. I think they're playing at Miller Park this Friday too.

Boston
05-05-2010, 08:45 PM
Agreed. He's completely worthless. I wouldn't send him on the mound ever unless the run differential is 5 runs or more. He's our 7th best starting pitcher but even if we had 2 starters go down I'd be scouring the minor leagues and trade markets to find someone instead of him.

I don't think he's on the team for any reason besides no one will trade for him and it looks bad to dump a $12 mil contract.

Too bad Eric Arnett is a half season, minimum-probably more, away.

Edmonds back in RF today. As much as I've bashed Corey Hart he's done well so far. I like him in the lineup most days.

Eric Arnett's still years away, there's no way he's anywhere near the majors even after next year.

Whistler6
05-05-2010, 09:14 PM
Well the stage is set for you Prince...Patience!

Whistler6
05-05-2010, 09:15 PM
Eric Arnett's still years away, there's no way he's anywhere near the majors even after next year.

Arnett has quality stuff, but yeah he is still way too immature to be called up. As much as I'd like to see it, they might hold off on Braddock as well.

cvv84
05-05-2010, 09:23 PM
4-0 Brewers in the 1st. Feast or famine.

Whistler6
05-05-2010, 09:33 PM
4-0 Brewers in the 1st. Feast or famine.

No kidding! They scored more runs tonight in the 1st inning than the entire 4 games during the Padres series. It's just, weird...I can't think of any other way to describe it.

umphrey
05-05-2010, 09:56 PM
I'd like to get Parra a start at some point. If a pitcher is hurting put him on the 15 day DL and let Parra pitch 2 games. Or use a 6th starter when we have a string of games close together. I just want to see how he responds to being put back in the rotation after have the baseball equivalent job of a janitor.

umphrey
05-05-2010, 10:06 PM
Doug Davis pitched 2 scoresless innings and his ERA dropped a full point

GB12
05-05-2010, 11:56 PM
Wow Gomez beat out the run down.

Hopefully he's not hurt though.

princefielder28
05-06-2010, 08:15 AM
If you told me we'd win the first two games of this series after facing Kershaw and Billingsley I probably would've laughed.

umphrey
05-06-2010, 10:35 AM
Our offense seems to only come out to play ball when there is a good pitcher on the mound. Put a rookie or a bum out there and they are striking out one after another.

princefielder28
05-06-2010, 09:49 PM
Prince!!!! What the hell???

GB12
05-06-2010, 09:51 PM
If only he was six feet tall.

Whistler6
05-06-2010, 10:03 PM
The Brewers have won 1 game this year when they've been scored on 1st... Only 1. And they are 1-10 when losing after the 4th inning.

Gut check time. I don't know if it's mental or not, but a comeback win on the road and in LA to finish off a sweep would be a major confidence boost.

This is a great site --> http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2010.shtml

umphrey
05-06-2010, 10:19 PM
This team is definitely playing like they have no confidence at this point in the season

GB12
05-06-2010, 11:16 PM
Nice job by Vargas getting out of that one without allowing a run.

GB12
05-07-2010, 12:20 AM
Craig Counsell coming through in the 9th.

princefielder28
05-07-2010, 08:27 AM
Hawkins is awful!!!!

umphrey
05-07-2010, 09:17 AM
I'm starting to feel like our pitching is going to suck for the next 5 years no matter what. Even if we make all the right moves, drafts, trades, signings, it's going to take that long to get the mix of home grown talent and guys from other teams to put together a competitive pitching roster.

Maybe I'm being pessimistic, probably, but our pitching staff looked so great on paper going into the year and now we only have a couple pitchers with ERAs under 5, and some starters and primary relief pitchers with ERAs closer to double digits.

princefielder28
05-07-2010, 10:27 AM
I want to point out a feel good story that starting to brew...Chris Capuano

9.2 IP, 1 ER, 6 H, O BB, 12 Ks

umphrey
05-07-2010, 10:31 AM
There's some good news, what league/team?

roidrunner
05-07-2010, 10:31 AM
I want to point out a feel good story that starting to brew...Chris Capuano

9.2 IP, 1 ER, 6 H, O BB, 12 Ks

DAM IT, you just jinxed him, now he is going to give up like 5 runs.

Boston
05-07-2010, 10:48 AM
There's some good news, what league/team?

He's pitching down at A ball for the Brewers.

princefielder28
05-07-2010, 10:57 PM
Yo has been putting up some impressive strike out totals but if he's ever going to be a true ace then he needs to go deeper into games.

cvv84
05-08-2010, 07:33 PM
I just hope that Wolf doesn't turn into our next Suppan.

***sigh***

cvv84
05-08-2010, 08:47 PM
The bats come alive to bail out Wolf from that shaky start. Guert is a double shy of hitting for the cycle!

cvv84
05-08-2010, 08:59 PM
Braunie!!!! 11-2 Brewers

GB12
05-08-2010, 10:01 PM
Escobar is wearing a JJ Hardy glove? Anyone else catch that.

cvv84
05-08-2010, 10:13 PM
Guert hits for the cycle!!!


6th Brewer to accomplish the feat.

umphrey
05-08-2010, 10:25 PM
Gerut hits for the cycle!!?!???????!?

Of all the people on the roster, wow

I had to check those stats 3-4 times to believe it

princefielder28
05-08-2010, 10:25 PM
I had to work tonight but great to see them dominate!

GB12
05-08-2010, 10:35 PM
Gerut hits for the cycle!!?!???????!?

Of all the people on the roster, wow

I had to check those stats 3-4 times to believe it

If you believe this. Last year a friend and I were talking about the cycle for some reason and we placed a bet on which Brewer would do it. He chose Ryan Braun, I chose Jody Gerut.

I was at the game when Chad Moller hit for the cycle so I figured I'd go with a more obscure choice. Of course he's now saying that the bet was only for last year, but we both know I won.

bigboiajhawk
05-08-2010, 10:56 PM
Once again it appears as if the Crew is a feast or famine team. I really don't care now, just as long as they are contenders in September when the real meat of the schedule comes.

cvv84
05-08-2010, 11:28 PM
Hawkins going to the DL. Mitch Stetter is being recalled.

umphrey
05-09-2010, 12:41 AM
How bout some props to Ryan Braun?
He's gotten hits in 26/30 games
OBP is .447, gets on base almost half the time
League rankings (NL and AL):
#4 batting average
#3 RBIs
#3 hits
#1 runs
#15 stolen bases
#12 doubles
#13 slugging percentage
just 1 error

He's been on a tear almost every game since day 1 doing everything hitting for power, percent, getting on base, good left fielder, good base runner. Our team has been so on and off except Ryan Braun shows up every-single-day.

Whistler6
05-09-2010, 12:49 AM
I had to listen to the 1st 6 innings on the radio tonight, and who else was on as a guess comentator but...Geoff Jenkins. He was talking about things like how strong Rickie Weeks is, the potential of Ryan Braun, and his journey to the World Series with the Phillies. It was interesting to hear from a former Brewer who has played with these guys.

GB12
05-09-2010, 12:52 AM
Jenkins stopped by the TV booth aswell

Whistler6
05-09-2010, 12:53 AM
Once again it appears as if the Crew is a feast or famine team. I really don't care now, just as long as they are contenders in September when the real meat of the schedule comes.

Give them some credit. Last night was far from a feast with the bats, but they still pulled out a 1-run game. Even Hoffman escaped with the save. I'll take the 10 run blowouts any day.

Whistler6
05-09-2010, 12:55 AM
I want to point out a feel good story that starting to brew...Chris Capuano

9.2 IP, 1 ER, 6 H, O BB, 12 Ks

Even though it was for A ball, I can't even describe how happy that makes me. Capuano has been through a long road to recovery, and regardless of the level he's pitching at, it has to be seen as a success story. Good for him.

umphrey
05-09-2010, 01:00 AM
Is Gerut going to get more starts?

Gomez, Hart, Edmonds are all playing solid. How do you put Gerut back on the bench after hitting for the cycle though? Just doesn't seem right.

GB12
05-09-2010, 01:40 AM
It was one game. His average was just .133 before to night and even now it's just .222. Other than tonight he hasn't done anything to deserve playing time. Now it might get him a start or two right away to see if he stays hot, but it's not like we're going to change the arrangement in the outfield because Gerut hit for the cycle.

As a side note, I always forget how old Jody Gerut is. I usually think of him as like 27, but he's actually 32.

umphrey
05-09-2010, 02:09 AM
I thought he was younger too. One game doesn't make him a regular starter. But how do you go back to the bench after hitting the cycle, something that puts him in the record books as the 7th (6th?) Brewer to do ever?

GB12
05-09-2010, 02:55 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting tomorrow. Then after he goes 1-4 it'll return to normal.

umphrey
05-10-2010, 08:34 AM
Looking at yesterday's stats, Braun continues to play out of this world, Narveson gave us a great outing for our #5 pitcher, and McGehee might be one of the most clutch players in the entire league. He's so perfect hitting 5th. He was only 1 for 3 but came through with a HR for 3 RBIs in a 1 run game in the 8th and left 0 on base all game.

umphrey
05-10-2010, 06:16 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting tomorrow. Then after he goes 1-4 it'll return to normal.

Pretty much called it, I think 0-3 yesterday and now with Gomez injured they are going with Inglett, another outfielder backup, over Gerut.

umphrey
05-10-2010, 08:05 PM
Good news: Doug Davis hasn't allowed a hit in 4 innings
Bad news: Tommy Hanson has allowed 1 hit on about half as many pitches

Boston
05-10-2010, 08:15 PM
******* Tommy Hanson.

Whistler6
05-10-2010, 08:18 PM
Pretty much called it, I think 0-3 yesterday and now with Gomez injured they are going with Inglett, another outfielder backup, over Gerut.

Regardless of age or past stats, he deserves atleast a few spot starts after hitting for the cycle. Still, there's a reason he's 32 and hasn't found a consistent home. I think his low average this season has to be partially attributed to his pinch-hitting role too. In 2009, when he finally was given at-bats, he did start to produce. It's a tough call, because the lineup is already crowded.

Whistler6
05-10-2010, 08:19 PM
******* Tommy Hanson.

He has some filthy stuff. Didn't he lockdown the Brewers a couple years ago as a rookie?

cvv84
05-10-2010, 08:51 PM
He has some filthy stuff. Didn't he lockdown the Brewers a couple years ago as a rookie?

Every rookie locks down the Brewers :\

cvv84
05-10-2010, 08:53 PM
Only the Brewers can go from no hitting the Braves to down 7-0 just like that. Nice to see you Parra...

Whistler6
05-10-2010, 09:05 PM
Atleast Suppan should be able to get in some work.

princefielder28
05-12-2010, 03:06 PM
another awful game today....

-Jody Gerut was garbage and getting thrown out at third was the crap
-Manny Parra, with two outs and a 0-2 count, throws a ball over the outter half so McCann could get to it; that sucked
-Trevor Hoffman with another rough appearance
-Yovani needs to get ahead in the count...his pitch counts continue to be too high for the number of innings that he's putting in

Boston
05-12-2010, 04:25 PM
This team isn't even fun to watch right now, this is just a joke.

Whistler6
05-13-2010, 09:05 PM
If the Phillies come in and sweep the Brewers this weekend, it is a lost season. They need to show some heart, and pull out some wins at home. I'm riding them all season no matter what, but that Braves series was just disheartening.

Whistler6
05-13-2010, 09:07 PM
Meet Ned Yost, the new manager of the Kansas City Royal. Even though it comes following the firing of their original manager and they aren't a very good team, good for him!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5186895

princefielder28
05-13-2010, 09:10 PM
Meet Ned Yost, the new manager of the Kansas City Royal. Even though it comes following the firing of their original manager and they aren't a very good team, good for him!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5186895

I loved Ned and it was too bad that he got dismissed just 12 games before the season was over, but hopefully he can get it done in KC.

cvv84
05-13-2010, 09:14 PM
I loved Ned and it was too bad that he got dismissed just 12 games before the season was over, but hopefully he can get it done in KC.

Same here. He always stood up for his players and told it like it was.

princefielder28
05-14-2010, 08:52 PM
Call up Capuano!!!!!

princefielder28
05-14-2010, 08:59 PM
Manny Parra has to be one of the most fragile individuals mentally...there is just something not right about him

Whistler6
05-14-2010, 10:24 PM
Manny Parra has to be one of the most fragile individuals mentally...there is just something not right about him

Which is sad, because he has top of the line stuff at times. When he threw 2 low and away 95 mph heaters to Utley, then struck him out with a bender on a full count, he flashed that potential.

But you're right, it has to be mental. Hopefully he can eventually work it out. On the positive side, atleast they looked great in those throwback uni's...

cvv84
05-14-2010, 10:32 PM
How long before Macha and Melvin are on the hot seat?

*coy whistle*

princefielder28
05-14-2010, 10:47 PM
*coy whistle*

Melvin is safe for the time being. I think Macha is the one that should be worried

cvv84
05-15-2010, 08:19 AM
Melvin is safe for the time being. I think Macha is the one that should be worried

I disagree. Melvin is the one putting the team together and he's really not as good as a GM as people think. Without our scouting department we wouldn't be where we are today and thats why alot of fans wanted to keep Zduriencik and get rid of Melvin.

Whistler6
05-15-2010, 02:35 PM
I disagree. Melvin is the one putting the team together and he's really not as good as a GM as people think. Without our scouting department we wouldn't be where we are today and thats why alot of fans wanted to keep Zduriencik and get rid of Melvin.

We have to give him some credit. He's atleast brought exciting baseball back to Milwaukee and helped push the Brewers back into relevancy in the MLB. 9 years ago they were basically the Pirates.

But you're right, some of the evaluation of talent has been questionable. Melvin deserves to feel some heat. It's easy to place blame on Macha, but he's really only playing with the cards he has. On paper the roster, even the pitching staff looks competitive, but they are just not performing. The starters going barely 5 innings has to be wearing down the bullpen.

Hopefully the Brewers can put on a decent showing being on national TV this weekend...Please GOD let them not embarrass themselves or get blown out.

cvv84
05-15-2010, 03:34 PM
Really Zaun? Really?

Whistler6
05-15-2010, 05:03 PM
I know Macha has to be trying to give the bullpen a bit of a break, but it's hard for me to justify him allowing Narveson to throw 130 pitches today. 5 2/3 inning, and he was clealry pressing. That's the highest amount of pitches any MLB pitcher has thrown yet this season. Geez...

You can really see the potential and poise Narveson has. I think he will be around for quite a while, and still only going to get better.

Whistler6
05-15-2010, 05:29 PM
****ing terrible Vargas. Every single batter has gotten solid, on the line contact off of him. He can't even get out Joe Blanton? This series, the Brewers' 1-2-3 hitters have 1 hit. Zaun is a joke at the plate, Hart is as immature as a batter as he was a year ago, and there is no one Macha can give the ball to who can get an out. Oh, and Jeff Suppan is making 13 million this season to be a mop-up pitcher.

Vargas getting shelled, and there is not even 1 pitcher warming up. Losses are 1 thing, but goddam blowouts are another. What the hell is this? Are the Brewers a Major League Baseball team or what?

Man oh man...I love this team, but this is so flipp'n hard to watch, so hard to swallow. I HAVE to give it up to Brewer fans for not booing them off the field yet and still showing up at the park.

Alright, here come the boo's. Here comes Jeff Suppan...Sums up the season perfectly.

(Sigh)

princefielder28
05-15-2010, 08:11 PM
Today was our 10th loss in the last 11 games at home...changes need to be made! If Melvin is the one to go then so be it but Macha would be right behind him.

Boston
05-15-2010, 08:29 PM
Heads need to start rolling, this is an absolute joke.

cvv84
05-15-2010, 08:30 PM
You can really see the potential and poise Narveson has. I think he will be around for quite a while, and still only going to get better.

Hopefully he doesn't follow the path of Parra and Capuano because we have nobody in the wings.

umphrey
05-15-2010, 10:00 PM
I thought this was looking like a playoff year going in. Now I'm pretty sure we are starting a rebuilding cycle, or we will be in a few months. Trade Prince for prospects, use a top 10 or top 5 draft pick on a pitcher, and wait 3 years until we are competitive again.

Our entire team is bad this year. I don't like Macha at all, in fact I'm not convinced he isn't in fact a robot, but what is he supposed to do? The offense only shows up when it doesn't matter. The starting pitchers go 5 innings and if we're lucky only give up 3-4 runs. The bullpen consistently lets the other team blow up a small lead to an insurmountable one as soon as they take over. Trevor has blown as many saves as he's made. Even with Braun and McGehee playing so well this team is dead without a complete overhaul. Maybe they can do it themselves but we probably need a new coach and some new faces on the roster.

The most depressing thing is attendance is going to plummet and so is our budget, and watching baseball is going to be a lot less fun.

cvv84
05-16-2010, 10:38 AM
The most depressing thing is attendance is going to plummet and so is our budget, and watching baseball is going to be a lot less fun.

The depressing part is that the 3 million people that showed up each year for the past 3 years are paying Jeff Suppan, Bill Hall, and Randy Wolf.

umphrey
05-16-2010, 11:14 AM
There are many depressing aspects...
Randy Wolf isn't Jeff Suppan just yet, and he never can be really. He's had some decent outings and some bad ones against good teams and he just got into town still. His 3 year, $27.5M (correct me if the numbers are wrong) could never turn into the catastrophe that Suppan and Hall are. I have confidence in him being in the rotation and that his game will turn around, but he'll never be an 8 inning guy or a 10+ strikeout guy.

I'm mostly mad that it's only May and when I watch the games I don't know if I want them to win, or lose so they start firing people and get a high draft pick. It's not fun watching your team lose no matter what and it's even worse when you only get to watch 4-6 innings and the game is over.

As pessimistic as I've been I haven't given up hope yet. After the Phillies our schedule gets easier (I think) so maybe they can get their s*** together and start playing baseball. I'm not getting my hopes up though because right now the entire team is playing bad.

I blame everyone in the organization except for the following:
-the scouting department (they've found some good prospects)
-Ryan Braun
-Casey McGehee
-Jim Edmonds
-Tod Coffey, Villenueva
-Gallardo (hasn't pitched enough innings but he's done well enough)
-Dave Bush
-Randy Wolf (usually gives us a chance to win at least)
-Narveson

Everyone else on the roster and organization has been a major disappointment. The starting pitchers I mentioned all have problems but they've done well enough. It's Macha, starting pitchers never going 6 innings, most of the bullpen, and our offense besides Braun and McGehee that come together to form a perfect storm of failure.


Tonight we have Doug Davis, the biggest disappointment on a list of huge disappointments, going against Cole Hamels and the Phillies in Miller park. Get ready for boos followed by booze.

Whistler6
05-16-2010, 12:17 PM
Well if Prince doesn't work out...


Posted by Mike Florio on May 16, 2010 12:41 PM ET
It's unclear whether rookie tackle Bryan Bulaga (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5693) will be able to help improve a Packers' offensive line that performed at times last year like a wet roll of paper towels. But Bulaga has already shown offer a different set of skills.

The man can hit a baseball.


Per the Associated Press, Bulaga cranked out 14 home runs while taking batting practice with the Milwaukee Brewers on Saturday.


Bulaga reportedly parked "several" into the upper deck at the place where the Brewers play their homes games. (I don't know it off the top of my head because I don't follow baseball. And I don't feel like looking it up.)


Though his skills with a bat won't do him any good against the likes of Jared Allen (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2837), maybe Bulaga will break out the old Neil Smith celebration after executing a key block.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/16/bryan-bulaga-launches-some-bombs-at-brewers-bp/

Whistler6
05-16-2010, 12:19 PM
Tonight we have Doug Davis, the biggest disappointment on a list of huge disappointments, going against Cole Hamels and the Phillies in Miller park. Get ready for boos followed by booze.

I really thought Doug Davis would thrive back in Milwaukee. Not necessarily great stats, but something like 14-10 3.80 era seemed possible. He has been getting just shelled this season, but yet again, so have everybody.

Whistler6
05-16-2010, 12:22 PM
The depressing part is that the 3 million people that showed up each year for the past 3 years are paying Jeff Suppan, Bill Hall, and Randy Wolf.

As bad as it is, and it is bad. Carlos Zambrano is making $17 million to sit in the bullpen and get lit up every couple of days in Chicago. So, we still have that. I'm grasping for something, anything.

umphrey
05-16-2010, 01:25 PM
Scratch Doug Davis, Bush is in for the start tonight. Davis is seeing a doctor for some reason. Bush is on normal rest and he's one of my favorite pitchers we have - IMO tied for second best with Wolf right now. I'm hoping he can have a solid outing on short notice against the talented Phillies. If there is a starting pitcher on the roster that can get us out of this home slump, I think it's Bush, because the offense has a tendency to take a day off whenever Gallardo is on the mound.

cvv84
05-16-2010, 04:34 PM
Heart condition for DD. He was placed on the 15 day DL too. Also Escobar is finally being placed in the 2 hole for tonights game.

princefielder28
05-16-2010, 10:06 PM
pitching was actually decent tonight

but the offense has been not so good

the_legend_killer
05-16-2010, 10:12 PM
So working a count seems to be a lost art for the offense lately.......

Whistler6
05-16-2010, 10:34 PM
If the Phillies come in and sweep the Brewers this weekend, it is a lost season. They need to show some heart, and pull out some wins at home. I'm riding them all season no matter what, but that Braves series was just disheartening.

I will not be shocked if they lose 90-100 games this season. Maybe somewhat of a initial-shock reaction, but 0-6 at home after a 3-game sweep on the road is pitiful. What can they do to get better? How?!

umphrey
05-17-2010, 07:11 AM
Macha sounds like he already lost his job

"When it's all said and done, I know that I've done the best job I can do. Everybody would like to continue to work, sure. But I know that I put everything I could into this job. That's all I can do."

princefielder28
05-17-2010, 08:44 AM
I don't want to give up on this season yet but when it comes down to it, it doesn't seem like this team has what it takes to win. So, some things are going to have to happen....

1. General Manager/Manager - Antanasio has to figure out who he wants to lead the team through a bit of a rebuilding process. I think Melvin will be ok, but Macha will be on the way out with Willie taking over at manager.

2. Trade Prince Fielder - as great as he's been for this team I think everyone recognizes that he is unaffordable for the Crew thanks to Boras. He can help bring in the much needed pitching for this team as well. I'd be surprised if he's not a Red Sox by July.

3. Who's the future of this team looking at 2011?
C :: Jonathan Lucroy
1B :: ??? (Mat Gamel?)
2B :: Rickie Weeks
3B :: Casey McGehee
SS :: Alcides Escobar
LF :: Ryan Braun
CF :: Carlos Gomez / Lorenzo Cain
RF :: ???

SP :: Yovani Gallardo, Randy Wolf, Chris Narveson, ???, ???
RP :: Carlos Villanueva, Zach Braddock, Todd Coffey, LaTroy Hawkins, ??????

Just looking at the future of this team there's not too many holes with our position players but the pitching is full of them and I think this is no surprise whatsoever.

umphrey
05-17-2010, 08:54 AM
We need to trade Prince for pitching prospects then hopefully draft a slugging first baseman with a high pick that can be in major league ball in 2 years. Try Gamel at first base for the mean time but try developing some slugger prospects from within because Gamel is kind of a long shot, and probably wouldn't be a long term solution in an scenario.

Focus on developing pitchers though. Our offense has some pieces and it's easy to get some decent hitters on short notice. If we learned anything from 2008-2010 it's that homegrown quality pitchers make a team. Sabbathia took us to the playoffs but he was a half year rental. If we had brought him up ourselves he would have been in Milwaukee longer.

Boston
05-17-2010, 09:44 AM
We need to trade Prince for pitching prospects then hopefully draft a slugging first baseman with a high pick that can be in major league ball in 2 years. Try Gamel at first base for the mean time but try developing some slugger prospects from within because Gamel is kind of a long shot, and probably wouldn't be a long term solution in an scenario.

Focus on developing pitchers though. Our offense has some pieces and it's easy to get some decent hitters on short notice. If we learned anything from 2008-2010 it's that homegrown quality pitchers make a team. Sabbathia took us to the playoffs but he was a half year rental. If we had brought him up ourselves he would have been in Milwaukee longer.

We're not going to replace him through the draft... It took Prince Fielder 4 years to get to the big leagues, I don't know what kind of player's going to make it in two.

umphrey
05-17-2010, 11:37 AM
Really? I thought he flew through the minors in like a year and a half. I apparently have some misconceptions about the time it takes prospects because I thought a fairly polished college kid that makes progress at a good rate could be called up in 2 years, 2 and a half for the opening day roster because the draft is midseason (right?).

I don't know if you can "replace" Prince Fielder. I'm just saying we need to get some slugger prospects in the farm because Milwaukee can't pay for them. We need someone to play first base. I can't think of anyone in the system right now that you could look towards. Gamel is the closest but I don't see it. So lets see if we can add some guys in the farm that could possibly turn into a power hitting first baseman down the line.

cvv84
05-17-2010, 08:41 PM
Nice knowing ya Prince.

Whistler6
05-17-2010, 09:00 PM
Nice knowing ya Prince.

Sad thing is, it's not too early to say that anymore.

princefielder28
05-17-2010, 11:20 PM
Manny Parra pitching in Cincinnati tomorrow!!!! He better pitch good or Prince is gonna hunt him down and repeat history

princefielder28
05-17-2010, 11:28 PM
I want to blame the loss tonight on Yovani as much as Coffey...i am so tired of him giving us just six innings a start, especially with how the rest of the rotation is pitching...120 pitches in six with six walks is unacceptable...am i expecting too much? nope, because if he's going to be ordained the ace and paid like one then he needs to pitch like one

he's gone more than six innings only twice this season

princefielder28
05-18-2010, 11:50 AM
quick start for the Brewers offense but i'm going to hold my excitement for now b/c Mr. Parra is on the mound

umphrey
05-18-2010, 11:57 AM
Just a heads up McGehee is currently at the top of the national league all stars for 3B (by stats, not votes). He's close to Zimmerman but right now most impartial voters would go with McGehee I think.

Boston
05-18-2010, 12:10 PM
Manny Parra got squeezed right off the bat. That run shouldn't have been on first at all.

princefielder28
05-18-2010, 01:46 PM
As much as the bullpen has been struggling, along with a struggling offense, you need to give yourself a chance at as many runs as you can and having Estrada bat with two runners on and two outs is moronic.

princefielder28
05-18-2010, 02:12 PM
Casey McGehee <3

the_legend_killer
05-18-2010, 02:13 PM
Casey "Mother****ing" McGehee!

Boston
05-18-2010, 02:25 PM
Foxtrax is the biggest piece of ****, just stop using it.

the_legend_killer
05-18-2010, 02:30 PM
http://mokellyreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/estrada.jpg

umphrey
05-18-2010, 02:47 PM
Get outta here Trevor, you're washed up

princefielder28
05-18-2010, 02:50 PM
Braddock! Braddock! Braddock!

umphrey
05-18-2010, 02:52 PM
Wow. Failure. Fail. Epic Fail.

the_legend_killer
05-18-2010, 02:52 PM
Sig yanked. Seriously, ******* pathetic.

Boston
05-18-2010, 04:00 PM
I honestly never want to see Hoffman close again, I could care less about 600 saves. How the **** do you mess this up, right when things started looking good for the Brewers Hoffman decides, yeah well **** that.

cvv84
05-18-2010, 04:36 PM
8 straight losses. Hopefully Bryce Harper doesn't enter the draft until next year ;)

umphrey
05-18-2010, 05:06 PM
Time to cut ties with Suppan and Hoffman and replace them with guys from AAA or something

Whistler6
05-18-2010, 08:53 PM
This season is like a terrible break up that just keeps happening day after day, after day. The pain never eases, and each day we are invested and in love all over again...Only to have our heart broken each time.

Everyday we think, we hope, maybe they will rebound this time. Maybe today a winning streak will start, and they will go on a tear. Nope, heartache again. This seriously is a nightmare. How long until we wake up?

Whistler6
05-18-2010, 10:30 PM
I just rewatched FSN's live replay of today's loss. No reason, but just couldn't look away...

Postgame:

"The hardest part of this game is playing your heart out, getting to the 9th inning, and not closing it out."
-Ken Macha

J-Mike88
05-18-2010, 10:48 PM
This seriously is a nightmare. How long until we wake up?
Whenever you turn all your attention to the Packers.
But the Packers obviously had some trouble closing games too dammit.

PackerLegend
05-18-2010, 10:56 PM
I love the Brewers but they suck so whatever im not surprised.

umphrey
05-19-2010, 01:41 PM
If Macha keeps using Hoffman and he's anything but perfect, he's going to take a lot of heat. If he pulls him now though, no one's going to second guess him. Even if the move fails, I can't imagine anyone blaming Macha in hindsight.