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princefielder28
10-30-2012, 02:32 PM
1. Kansas City :: Matt Barkley : QB : USC
2. Carolina :: Star Lotulelei : DT : Utah
3. Jacksonville :: Barkevious Mingo : DE : Louisiana State
4. Cleveland :: Geno Smith : QB : West Virginia
5. New Orleans :: Jarvis Jones : OLB : Georgia
6. St. Louis (f/Washington) :: Luke Joeckel : OT : Texas A&M
7. Tennessee :: Jonathan Hankins : DT : Ohio State
8. St. Louis :: Manti Teo : LB : Notre Dame
9. New York Jets :: Tyler Wilson : QB : Arkansas
10. Philadelphia :: Bjoern Werner : DE : Florida State
11. Cincinnati :: Sam Montgomery : DE : Louisiana State
12. Tampa Bay :: DeMarcus Millner : CB : Alabama
13. Buffalo :: Keenan Allen : WR : California
14. Oakland :: Damontre Moore : DE : Texas A&M
15. Detroit :: Johnthan Banks : CB : Mississippi State
16. San Diego :: Jonathan Jenkins : NT : Georgia
17. Dallas :: Eric Reid : S : Louisiana State
18. Seattle :: Kawann Short : DT : Purdue
19. Arizona :: Chance Warmack : OG : Alabama
20. Pittsburgh :: TJ McDonald : S : USC
21. Indianapolis :: Sheldon Richardson : DE : Missouri
22. Miami :: Robert Woods : WR : USC
23. Denver :: Jordan Poyer : CB : Oregon State
24. Green Bay :: Barrett Jones : OL : Alabama
25. Minnesota :: Desmond Trufant : CB : Washington
26. New England :: Jonathan Cooper : OG : North Carolina
27. Baltimore :: Justin Hunter : WR : Tennessee
28. San Francisco :: Chase Thomas : OLB : Stanford
29. New York Giants :: Eric Fisher : OT : Central Michigan
30. Chicago :: Dallas Thomas : OL : Tennessee
31. Houston :: Terrance Williams : WR : Baylor
32. Atlanta :: Sylvester Williams : DT : North Carolina

vidae
10-30-2012, 02:35 PM
Good KC pick.

Pat Sims 90
10-30-2012, 02:36 PM
Montgomery is fine for what is left on the board. I would be upset to see Werner go 1 pick ahead of the Bengals.

keylime_5
10-30-2012, 02:37 PM
A QB for the Browns? meh. Jarvis Jones or any defensive player who is not a DT.

Raiderz4Life
10-30-2012, 02:39 PM
Oakland at 14? You expecting us to have a decent season it seems, but I only see 4-6 wins max for us.

derza222
10-30-2012, 02:50 PM
Good pick for the Jets.

ChicagoBearsVet23
10-30-2012, 02:59 PM
Decent Bears pick

Thecollegedropout
10-30-2012, 04:29 PM
Terrible pick by the Jets. Sanchez is on hook for next year, Woody Johnson loves Tebow to the point that he will stick with him for the sake of selling seats and we have so many more needs then to take a QB in the top ten who isn't even the best of his class.

We need a OLB badly, especially one who can pass rush or hell just be quick enough to stop running backs. Give us Moore!

Robcards
10-30-2012, 04:40 PM
Terrible pick by the Jets. Sanchez is on hook for next year, Woody Johnson loves Tebow to the point that he will stick with him for the sake of selling seats and we have so many more needs then to take a QB in the top ten who isn't even the best of his class.

We need a OLB badly, especially one who can pass rush or hell just be quick enough to stop running backs. Give us Moore!

What he said. Unless you know how to make guaranteed money on a contract disappear were stuck with Sanchez until at least 2014 I'm afraid

T-RICH49
10-30-2012, 05:07 PM
love KC's pick

Razor
10-30-2012, 05:16 PM
Cooper is a great pick for us, although I'll be pissed off if we don't take Justin Hunter in this scenario.

princefielder28
10-30-2012, 08:28 PM
A QB for the Browns? meh. Jarvis Jones or any defensive player who is not a DT.

With new ownership the people in charge won't be afraid to move on from the investment made in Weeden this past draft. Is he awful? No but he's definitely not a "franchise" quarterback and the Browns give themselves the chance to land one.

Oakland at 14? You expecting us to have a decent season it seems, but I only see 4-6 wins max for us.

I am most concerned with the order so thanks for the input.

Terrible pick by the Jets. Sanchez is on hook for next year, Woody Johnson loves Tebow to the point that he will stick with him for the sake of selling seats and we have so many more needs then to take a QB in the top ten who isn't even the best of his class.

We need a OLB badly, especially one who can pass rush or hell just be quick enough to stop running backs. Give us Moore!

Just because Wilson would be taken so high doesn't necessarily mean he'd be forced to play right away and taking a quarterback isn't the financial investment that it used to be. Sanchez clearly isn't the quarterback that will lead the Jets to the promise land and his development has been minimal. Either Sanchez or Tebow could start in 2013 while Wilson becomes acclimated to the league, and then take over as the starter in 2014. Currently the team lacks a quarterback who will allow them to sustain success, and the selection of Wilson would give the franchise a greater potential of being able to sustain high levels of success.

phlysac
10-30-2012, 08:50 PM
Do you have Chase Thomas as your 4th/5th edge rusher?

keylime_5
10-30-2012, 08:56 PM
With new ownership the people in charge won't be afraid to move on from the investment made in Weeden this past draft. Is he awful? No but he's definitely not a "franchise" quarterback and the Browns give themselves the chance to land one.

With a new front office (and likely head coach) they have an excuse to move on from Weeden if he were bad, but he's been really good for a rookie and improving as the season goes on and is definitely good enough to be a starting QB in this league. The only reason he wouldn't be considered a "franchise QB" is his age, but his talent and play on the field will merit him 6 or 7 years as a starting QB on the Browns. The Browns are expected to keep Weeden as the starting QB for the longterm after his encouraging rookie year. The idea that new ownership means giving up on Weeden is an outdated idea.

On top of that, a new regime isn't gonna want to waste time by starting over on a rebuild when they have a QB that they can win with in place already. They are gonna want to focus on building the team around Weeden and getting wins now and making a run.

princefielder28
10-30-2012, 08:59 PM
Do you have Chase Thomas as your 4th/5th edge rusher?

Chase Thomas has had an incredible senior season and he really stands out during the games. He's improved his pass rushing and always has done a good job of setting the edge and supporting against the run. He seems like a guy who fit very well within that 49ers defense.

Splat
10-30-2012, 09:00 PM
Barkley to Bowe!

O wait...

princefielder28
10-30-2012, 09:06 PM
On top of that, a new regime isn't gonna want to waste time by starting over on a rebuild when they have a QB that they can win with in place already. They are gonna want to focus on building the team around Weeden and getting wins now and making a run.

He's going to be 30 next season and by the time a foundation is set and a new regime has created a roster talented enough to be a playoff contender, how old will Weeden be? 32, 33, 34? That gives them a three or four year window with a guy whose ceiling is limited and who has shown just enough to be considered a capable starter but nothing more than that. The Browns need to stop working through quarterbacks who are "good enough" and find a guy at the most important position who can be a game changer and the face of the franchise.

Robcards
10-30-2012, 10:02 PM
Just because Wilson would be taken so high doesn't necessarily mean he'd be forced to play right away and taking a quarterback isn't the financial investment that it used to be. Sanchez clearly isn't the quarterback that will lead the Jets to the promise land and his development has been minimal. Either Sanchez or Tebow could start in 2013 while Wilson becomes acclimated to the league, and then take over as the starter in 2014. Currently the team lacks a quarterback who will allow them to sustain success, and the selection of Wilson would give the franchise a greater potential of being able to sustain high levels of success.

1. If the jets draft a qb in the 1st, Sanchez is gone. Lets be serious.

2. In this day in age if you draft a QB top 10, he is starting year 1. There's no such thing as grooming a future starter, and it's not like he'd have a good veteran to learn from.

keylime_5
10-30-2012, 10:10 PM
He's going to be 30 next season and by the time a foundation is set and a new regime has created a roster talented enough to be a playoff contender, how old will Weeden be? 32, 33, 34? That gives them a three or four year window with a guy whose ceiling is limited and who has shown just enough to be considered a capable starter but nothing more than that. The Browns need to stop working through quarterbacks who are "good enough" and find a guy at the most important position who can be a game changer and the face of the franchise.

I don't think they are too far away from contending if they can get a few more key pieces in place (improve secondary and pass rush, add one or two playmakers at WR and/or TE). They are a really young team and Weeden can be the starting QB for 6 or 7 years at least, enough time to make a run with the current team. If the new regime tries to get a new QB and fails, they'll be fired and Weeden will still be starting in the NFL - why fix what isn't broke? You have a good starting QB in place, build around him now instead of starting from scratch again at the position. Now if there was a Luck, Griffin, Manning, Bradford, Stafford, Rivers, etc. sitting there you take him but the QB crop this year has nothing like that at all.

SickwithIt1010
10-31-2012, 01:43 AM
Why? Hate the eagles pick...

princefielder28
10-31-2012, 07:19 AM
Why? Hate the eagles pick...

9 sacks on the year for the Eagles defense...need I say more?

Taber21
10-31-2012, 11:06 AM
It appears the Vikings need for another offensive weapon outweighs their need for another CB at this point. No one can get open other than Percy. If they were picking where they do here, I'd say Justin Hunter would make a lot of sense. CB will still be a need, especially with Winfield's age, but I'd think and hope they would go WR at that spot.

Also, with their remaining schedule as it is, they will have to play lights out to make the playoffs. Just don't see it happening, unfortunately.

D-Unit
10-31-2012, 01:11 PM
If you could give the Cowboys any player in the entire draft, who would you choose?

killxswitch
10-31-2012, 01:24 PM
I can't get excited about Sheldon Richardson. I'd probably prefer Robert Woods or Barrett Jones.

Grizzlegom
10-31-2012, 01:33 PM
Love the Dolphins pick!

TACKLE
10-31-2012, 01:35 PM
Hunter and Torrey with Flacco's arm would just be unfair.

PF, no Dion in this mock?

princefielder28
10-31-2012, 02:03 PM
If you could give the Cowboys any player in the entire draft, who would you choose?

I would probably pick either Star or Jonathan Hankins to anchor the middle of that defense...I know they have their issues on the offensive line, but either guy would give them a force on the defensive line, which is really their missing piece on the defense outside of safety

Hunter and Torrey with Flacco's arm would just be unfair.

PF, no Dion in this mock?

since it's difficult to forecast trades with such early season mocks, it's easiest to slot these picks by BPA at a position of need...i would think that a team would move up at the bottom half of round one to select him

Bert Macklin
10-31-2012, 03:06 PM
5. New Orleans :: Jarvis Jones : OLB : Georgia


yup

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Bert Macklin
10-31-2012, 03:08 PM
Hunter and Torrey with Flacco's arm would just be unfair.

PF, no Dion in this mock?

Smith and Boldin are supposed to unfair right now.

TACKLE
10-31-2012, 03:48 PM
Smith and Boldin are supposed to unfair right now.

They are?10

Bert Macklin
10-31-2012, 04:05 PM
They are?10

Boldin wasn't a highly regarded WR coming into Baltimore?

Robcards
10-31-2012, 04:18 PM
Boldin wasn't a highly regarded WR coming into Baltimore?

He was, but he's 32 now. He's declined a ton in recent years and he's never produced like he did when he had Fitz drawing most of the coverage.

Thecollegedropout
10-31-2012, 04:48 PM
1. If the jets draft a qb in the 1st, Sanchez is gone. Lets be serious.

2. In this day in age if you draft a QB top 10, he is starting year 1. There's no such thing as grooming a future starter, and it's not like he'd have a good veteran to learn from.
To add along....

3) We have such a tight window to compete under where it makes taking a project QB in round 1 with a top 10 pick seem foolish. We have such dire needs elsewhere that have to take the forefront before a QB. If you want to sell me on taking a QB in round 3 or 4 or 5.....fine. I would not prefer it but I can at least understand. However, we just have needs elsewhere that just do not make sense to go for a QB so high.

Especially not with someone who isn't even a special QB. Tyler Wilson has had multiple concussion issues, that's something that will be monitored and mentioned in the concussion scared NFL we are in today. I can definitely see his stock drop based on that.

coordinator0
10-31-2012, 05:22 PM
They are?10

I know right?

He was, but he's 32 now. He's declined a ton in recent years and he's never produced like he did when he had Fitz drawing most of the coverage.

That and Boldin isn't used in nearly the same way as he was in Arizona.

Menardo75
10-31-2012, 05:41 PM
I like this Niner pick.

Robcards
10-31-2012, 07:03 PM
Especially not with someone who isn't even a special QB. Tyler Wilson has had multiple concussion issues, that's something that will be monitored and mentioned in the concussion scared NFL we are in today. I can definitely see his stock drop based on that.

Right. Tyler Wilson doesn't have the high ceiling that someone like Logan Thomas or Tyler Bray has. If Jets draft a qb I'd much rather it be a project qb like Logan in the 2nd or something but even that seems unlikely.

keylime_5
10-31-2012, 08:14 PM
He was, but he's 32 now. He's declined a ton in recent years and he's never produced like he did when he had Fitz drawing most of the coverage.

or when he had Kurt Warner throwing to him for that matter.

princefielder28
11-01-2012, 08:25 AM
Right. Tyler Wilson doesn't have the high ceiling that someone like Logan Thomas or Tyler Bray has. If Jets draft a qb I'd much rather it be a project qb like Logan in the 2nd or something but even that seems unlikely.

Logan Thomas has been probably the greatest disappointment in all of college football this year; clearly not the player that many, including myself, thought he'd progress to be. Tyler Bray has the intriguing tools of being a tall quarterback with the arm to go with the size, but he's a mess as a quarterback. He was a game away from being pulled as the starter. I hope to God that some teams is dumb enough to invest an early pick in one of these quarterbacks because at this point they appear to be nothing more than a waste.

CJSchneider
11-01-2012, 11:53 AM
I'd rather see us reach a bit on a DE or DT than take a LB at this point. Give the Saints Werner or Montgomery.

Robcards
11-01-2012, 12:19 PM
I'd rather see us reach a bit on a DE or DT than take a LB at this point. Give the Saints Werner or Montgomery.

Jones would play DE in New Orleans. Doubt they end up with a top 5 pick though, Brees is just too good I think they at the very least finish 6-10 or 7-9

CJSchneider
11-01-2012, 12:40 PM
We are going into week 9 and are currently slotted at 5th, if the season ended today. I'm as optimistic as anyone, but it remains a possibility.

D-Unit
11-01-2012, 04:12 PM
I would probably pick either Star or Jonathan Hankins to anchor the middle of that defense...I know they have their issues on the offensive line, but either guy would give them a force on the defensive line, which is really their missing piece on the defense outside of safety.
Interesting choice. People haven't noticed him... but his name is Josh Brent. He's really stepped it up this year. I can honestly say that if he plays out the year the way he's started it then, I would scratch that need off the list and I'm one who's been begging for a NT since Parcells first moved us to the 3-4.

I would like more DL help though, that's for certain. Someone like Jesse Williams who could play NT or DE in the 3-4 intrigues me later in the draft. Any more guys like that?

princefielder28
11-01-2012, 08:34 PM
I would like more DL help though, that's for certain. Someone like Jesse Williams who could play NT or DE in the 3-4 intrigues me later in the draft. Any more guys like that?

Outside of Jesse Williams, no one stands out to me at this point as a later round option who could provide that versatility.

prock
11-01-2012, 08:38 PM
Haven't seen Trufant this year, but I dig a big corner. Big corners are fun to have. I think I would rather get some help at DT, but CB will do.

SickwithIt1010
11-02-2012, 03:22 AM
9 sacks on the year for the Eagles defense...need I say more?

Thats on the scheme man, Trent Cole, Babin, Graham, Hunt, are not gonna be replaced.

mightytitan9
11-02-2012, 01:00 PM
I think Hankins would be somewhat of a luxury pick for the Titans. The Titans have spent picks on Jurrell Casey and Mike Martin the past two years, and in their history have only spent one first round pick on a DT (Albert Haynesworth).

The Titans lack playmakers on defense, whether that be as a pass rusher from the DE position or DBs.

thebow305
11-09-2012, 11:14 PM
Love the Dolphins pick!

This. :banana: :banana: :banana: