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footballfan
06-30-2006, 06:14 PM
Hi guys, im thniking about start coaching a football team. I was looking over defenses on the internet but couldn't find any good websites.
I was hoping you would might help me out a little and write about your favorite D#: advantages and disadvantages. :?:

Moses
06-30-2006, 06:15 PM
What level of football?

yodabear
06-30-2006, 06:15 PM
Prevent

DHVF
06-30-2006, 06:16 PM
What level of football?Yeah, that's almost 100% needed in order to answer your question.

footballfan
06-30-2006, 06:17 PM
The level would be from 16-19 years old, 11-man football

CGF 216/137
06-30-2006, 06:17 PM
i love the 5-2 but my school runs a 6-1 which is basically a 4-3 with the OLBs up at the line.

yodabear
06-30-2006, 06:17 PM
Offense>Defense

Moses
06-30-2006, 06:19 PM
I'd go with a Cover 2 (that's 4-3) but it really depends on your personnel and what the other offences in your league like to do.

Vince Lombardi
06-30-2006, 06:19 PM
It really depends on the personnel, but I prefer the 4-3. If you can get some big bodies up front and win the battle in the trenches you can free up the rest of the defense to make plays.

footballfan
06-30-2006, 06:20 PM
i know its a lot about my personnel. but i would like to have a standpoint

draftguru151
06-30-2006, 06:21 PM
4-2-5 is where it's at.

Moses
06-30-2006, 06:23 PM
i know its a lot about my personnel. but i would like to have a standpoint

I think more important than the actual formation is the philosophy. All good defences have an identity and a main goal they're trying to accomplish. This is the most important aspect of your defence. For example, you could want a defence that is very aggressive, pressures the quarterback, and makes plays behind the line of scrimmag.e You could want a defence that disguises it's coverages very well and forces the offence into making mistakes. There's many different directions you can go but it's important that you do choose a direction and go with it.

DHVF
06-30-2006, 06:23 PM
For that level of football, I am more partial to the 5-3 defense, as most teams are not very efficient with passing the ball and stopping the run game should be the focal point.

Vince Lombardi
06-30-2006, 06:23 PM
i know its a lot about my personnel. but i would like to have a standpoint

Well, why don't you tell us what you have to work with then and what your ideas are before we give you suggestions?

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
06-30-2006, 06:23 PM
Up here, when it's 16-19, it's mostly a running league. If that's the case, go 46.

Like 4-4 style, not that bear crap.

draftguru151
06-30-2006, 06:24 PM
I'd go with a gap contain defense. Really important for teams that run a lot of traps and such.

GB12
06-30-2006, 06:26 PM
For that level of football, I am more partial to the 5-3 defense, as most teams are not very efficient with passing the ball and stopping the run game should be the focal point.

I was going to say 4-3 but your right, put another man on the line and use one safety

footballfan
06-30-2006, 06:29 PM
my personnel spreads from 300-pound mamma-jammas
to 150-pound skinny-boys. and i would also like to add that the passing in this league is surpriseingly good

Twiddler
06-30-2006, 06:30 PM
I'd go with a gap contain defense. Really important for teams that run a lot of traps and such.

Yep, my high school currently runs that and it can be really effective on the high school level if ran correctly as my school has two division state championships in the past three years and the year we didn't win we lost in the semi's.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
06-30-2006, 06:31 PM
In that case, I'd go 4-3.

Vince Lombardi
06-30-2006, 06:31 PM
http://www.ksnusa.org/ftblinks.htm

Moses
06-30-2006, 06:31 PM
You basically want to get your 11 best players out onto the field. Pick your 11 best, then see what position they play best. You can base your formation off of that.

draftguru151
06-30-2006, 06:36 PM
my personnel spreads from 300-pound mamma-jammas
to 150-pound skinny-boys. and i would also like to add that the passing in this league is surpriseingly good

I'd run a 4-2-5 then with 2 SS a little deeper than the LBs and out a little, and one FS deep (center fielder type).

GB12
06-30-2006, 06:58 PM
my personnel spreads from 300-pound mamma-jammas
to 150-pound skinny-boys. and i would also like to add that the passing in this league is surpriseingly good

Then 4-3 especially if the OLB are fast then you can blitz the or drop them in to coverage and keep them guessing

06-30-2006, 07:08 PM
Cover 2

Green Bay Scat
06-30-2006, 08:15 PM
Its all about 3-3-5. (2) 6'4" 240lbs DE, (1) 6'1" 300lbs NT, (2) 6'1" 225lbs OLB, (1) 6' 240lbs MLB, (2) 5'9" 170lbs CB, (2) 5'11" 195lbs Studs(SS), (1) 6'1" 205lbs Gaucho(FS)

iworshipbender
06-30-2006, 08:16 PM
4-4 cover 3

elway777
06-30-2006, 08:28 PM
Well 3-4 defenses are hard to run in high school and pop warner because its hard finding the guys big enough to anchor the line,.....id go with traditional 4-3,the kids will learn the system easier and youll most likely be able to get kids around that size range.

Green Bay Scat
06-30-2006, 08:42 PM
Well 3-4 defenses are hard to run in high school and pop warner because its hard finding the guys big enough to anchor the line,.....id go with traditional 4-3,the kids will learn the system easier and youll most likely be able to get kids around that size range.less u played for mission in 04 or your a long beach poly guy...

elway777
06-30-2006, 08:43 PM
Well 3-4 defenses are hard to run in high school and pop warner because its hard finding the guys big enough to anchor the line,.....id go with traditional 4-3,the kids will learn the system easier and youll most likely be able to get kids around that size range.less u played for mission in 04 or your a long beach poly guy...

yup then we can have any player we want :D

Green Bay Scat
06-30-2006, 08:47 PM
Well 3-4 defenses are hard to run in high school and pop warner because its hard finding the guys big enough to anchor the line,.....id go with traditional 4-3,the kids will learn the system easier and youll most likely be able to get kids around that size range.less u played for mission in 04 or your a long beach poly guy...

yup then we can have any player we want :Dyou bastards, u fking BASTARDS!

ny10804
06-30-2006, 08:56 PM
My HS team has such an elaborate defense. There's an Anchor (strong side DE), Monster (strong side DE), DT (weakside DT), DE (weakside DE), Mike (strong side ILB), Eagle (strongside ILB), Stud (weakside LB/DE), Rambo (free safety), Forced Corner (strong side CB/LB), Close Corner (weakside CB), and Safety.

It looks kinda like this

---------------------2
--------------------QB----SL
X ---------- Y T G C G T ------------X
--------------A--M--DT--DE--S
--FC------------E----M------------CC
------------R---------------S

Bear with me on the drawing.

VikesRule
06-30-2006, 08:57 PM
I like the 3-4 for video games, but in real life I'd expect the 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 to be the best bet.

Green Bay Scat
06-30-2006, 09:00 PM
3-3-5 should be use more often, because High Schoolers are getting more athletic but not as big. its good to have the fat guys in front and let the "Playmakers" make plays

draftguru151
06-30-2006, 09:02 PM
My HS team has such an elaborate defense. There's an Anchor (strong side DE), Monster (strong side DE), DT (weakside DT), DE (weakside DE), Mike (strong side ILB), Eagle (strongside ILB), Stud (weakside LB/DE), Rambo (free safety), Forced Corner (strong side CB/LB), Close Corner (weakside CB), and Safety.

It looks kinda like this

---------------------2
--------------------QB----SL
X ---------- Y T G C G T ------------X
--------------A--M--DT--DE--S
--FC------------E----M------------CC
------------R---------------S

Bear with me on the drawing.

That is kinda odd with more people on the weakside than strongside. Here is what my team's looks like. S is stud (DE/OLB). Mike and Will ILBs, WT is Walt, which is a SS/OLB.


---------------------2
--------------------QB----SL
X ---------- Y T G C G T ------------X
------------S--DT--NT--DE
CB--------------M----W------------CB
------------SS--------------WT
--------------------FS

ny10804
06-30-2006, 09:07 PM
My HS team has such an elaborate defense. There's an Anchor (strong side DE), Monster (strong side DE), DT (weakside DT), DE (weakside DE), Mike (strong side ILB), Eagle (strongside ILB), Stud (weakside LB/DE), Rambo (free safety), Forced Corner (strong side CB/LB), Close Corner (weakside CB), and Safety.

It looks kinda like this

---------------------2
--------------------QB----SL
X ---------- Y T G C G T ------------X
--------------A--M--DT--DE--S
--FC------------E----M------------CC
------------R---------------S

Bear with me on the drawing.

That is kinda odd with more people on the weakside than strongside. Here is what my team's looks like. S is stud (DE/OLB). Mike and Will ILBs, WT is Walt, which is a SS/OLB.


---------------------2
--------------------QB----SL
X ---------- Y T G C G T ------------X
------------S--DT--NT--DE
CB--------------M----W------------CB
------------SS--------------WT
--------------------FS

The 'strong' side for us is the side with the TE. The Mike group (the Mike, Stud, Anchor, Monster, and Forced Corner) is always opposite the TE. I messed up the way I named them, but the drawing is right.

Our defenses are fairly similar.

ATLDirtyBirds
06-30-2006, 09:16 PM
4-3