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SuperPacker
01-01-2013, 03:42 PM
PF's run came to and end on Sunday, so it looks as though it's down to me to carry us all the way to the Superbowl!

I think this game comes down to how well Christian Ponder plays. If we can stop him converting on 3rd downs and getting big plays, I don't think Adrian Peterson alone will be enough to beat us.

Being at home is obviously a big advantage. Hopefully we win comfortably, but it could be a nail biter.

J-Mike88
01-01-2013, 04:11 PM
Being at home is obviously a big advantage. Hopefully we win comfortably, but it could be a nail biter.
I hope so but don't think so.
Not only did Peterson gash us for more yards back in week 13 than he did last week in Minny, our recent home playoff history shows a lot of carnage.

Lost to NY Giants
Lost to NY Giants
Beat Seattle
Lost to Minnesota
Lost to Atlanta

Our last 5 home playoff games, ALL has about touchdown-favorites, we only advanced once.
4 Lambeau Letdowns.

PS, I am trying to keep us all informed this week and hopefully thru the Super Bowl, over here:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx231/littleelmsports12/2013playoffs.jpg

http://packersinsider.com/2013/01/playoff-preview-vikings-offense-vs-packers-defense/

PackerLegend
01-01-2013, 04:11 PM
If we lose twice in a row to the Viqueens I may have to off myself.

I expect another close game but also expect us to move on. We have the revenge card....
Really a lot of little things cost us last week. The noncatch ruled a catch which we couldn't challenge gave the Vikings 7 when they would have had to punt. Tramon Williams stupid self also allowing the Vikings to continue and get 7 when they would have kicked a fg. Plus we had a turnover and did we force any?

SuperPacker
01-01-2013, 04:16 PM
I hope so but don't think so.
Not only did Peterson gash us for more yards back in week 13 than he did last week in Minny, our recent home playoff history shows a lot of carnage.

Lost to NY Giants
Lost to NY Giants
Beat Seattle
Lost to Minnesota
Lost to Atlanta

Our last 5 home playoff games, ALL has about touchdown-favorites, we only advanced once.
4 Lambeau Letdowns.

PS, I am trying to keep us all informed this week and hopefully thru the Super Bowl, over here:

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx231/littleelmsports12/2013playoffs.jpg

http://packersinsider.com/2013/01/playoff-preview-vikings-offense-vs-packers-defense/

We beat them here earlier in the season.

And Ponder outside of a dome is probably a bigger drop off than Rodgers outside a dome. We lost last week because we allowed Ponder to play well. He'll have a harder time doing that at Lambeau.

J-Mike88
01-01-2013, 06:16 PM
Check out these nuggets:

-Rodgers is THE ONLY starting QB in the NFC Playoffs who has a single playoff win.

-Rodgers has not lost back-to-back games since week 5 & 6 of the 2010 season.

-Minnesota has a total of ZERO wins this season outoor.

That's the good.

The bad is we are 1-4 in our last 5 home playoff games on what used to be the best homefield advantage in NFL playoff history. All 4 of those losses came with us as a 7+ point favorite. That applies this week as well.

WOODSON has been cleared, he's good to go!
Randall Cobb practiced today. He appears all-systems go.
There was some concern in McCarthy's voice about Jordy's knee.
Said they'd know more tomorrow. That's not a good thing. He's the unique guy among our WR's.

BloodBrother
01-01-2013, 07:35 PM
This team has only lost 1 home playoff game. All those other losses were with completely different players and more importantly, a completely different QB

Also, I don't know what is up with Jordy. I know he hurt his knee in the game but he stayed in and had that long reception after the injury(I believe) as well as got the teams last TD. He sure looked fine to me.

as you say, we'll find out more tomorrow

J-Mike88
01-01-2013, 10:06 PM
Jordy did get caught from behind on that long one... because he was worried he'd be horse-collared or mauled down like Boykin or something.... so he was stiff-arming instead of racing to the house.
I wondered then if he didn't feel 100% because a 100% Jordy scores there.

Hope he's okay, love the big receiver running past the little bruthaz.

If he's out, it would have been Boykin's turn dammit.
Jeremy Ross next?

BloodBrother
01-01-2013, 11:18 PM
If he has to miss the game I'm going to laugh. I swear, all year long it's been like some sort of rule where this team cannot have all of it's 4 WR's on the field together(Jordy, Jennings, Cobb, Jones). The timing of the injuries are just ridiculous

Jennings misses most of the year, he finally returns near the end of the season, only for Jordy to immediately go down in the same game that Jennings does return in

Jordy is set to return in week 17 @ Minnesota....but of course in Week 16 Randall Cobb had to go down.

Now, Cobb is set to return for the wildcard game, while Jordy is now nursing some hurt knee and his status is unknown

At this point, if I'm James Jones I'd be worried about going down next

SuperPacker
01-02-2013, 01:01 AM
It's a shame cause with all of them on the field at the same time our offense would be so much better. Nelson and Jones on the outside and Jennings and Cobb in the slot = perfection. With Boykin, and now Jeremy Ross it's just not the same.

Hopefully Nelson is healthy for the Divisional round, assuming we get through, cause having all of them healthy could be crucial for us when we play the 49ers.

CheeseKnuckles
01-02-2013, 11:27 AM
The best chance the Pack have at winning is to get a lead. Make Minnesota more one dimensional. Force Ponder to make throws and make him uncomfortable.

Hopefully this time Tramon doesn't get caught up in the ghettoness of Simpson. I could tell from the start that dirtbag was trying to get under Williams skin. Its a shame Williams allowed it to happen.

I'm also banking on Capers being a little more aggressive this go around. I thought he played pretty vanilla D on Sunday and I expect him to try and confuse Ponder a little more this week... I guess time will tell. Hopefully I'm right.

BloodBrother
01-02-2013, 12:03 PM
It would be nice if Tramon helped out the rest of the D in attempting to fill a lane OR slow down/try to tackle Peterson rather than just duck away. Dude was atrocious in Week 17. I hope he brings his nutsack this weekend


Also, Jordy returned to practice today and looked fine. Yesterday one of the reporters used the word "ominous" when trying to decipher the ****** tone of McCarthy's voice in reference to MM talking about Jordy's injury, but it was just the writer's own interpretation of things. Clearly, he was off because Jordy is back and is fine

PackerLegend
01-02-2013, 12:22 PM
If Cobb isn't off returns this week and beyond I will be rather disappointed. He is far to valuable to the O to be doing in. Not only that hr has been in a huge slump as of late barely making any difference back there. Ross has provided a spark and in both games had had electric plays. In Minnesota he had multiple, it makes so much sense to switch do it now damnit don't wait.

J-Mike88
01-02-2013, 05:39 PM
The best chance the Pack have at winning is to get a lead. Make Minnesota more one dimensional. Force Ponder to make throws and make him uncomfortable.

Hopefully this time Tramon doesn't get caught up in the ghettoness of Simpson. I could tell from the start that dirtbag was trying to get under Williams skin. Its a shame Williams allowed it to happen.
http://media.jrn.com/images/660*567/mjs-packers31-48-of-hoffman(2).jpg-packers31(2).jpg
For some reason, that damn URL doesn't work.
Here's Tramon avoiding contact on his shoulder:
http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx231/littleelmsports12/17tramon.jpg

SuperPacker
01-02-2013, 05:43 PM
If Cobb isn't off returns this week and beyond I will be rather disappointed. He is far to valuable to the O to be doing in. Not only that hr has been in a huge slump as of late barely making any difference back there. Ross has provided a spark and in both games had had electric plays. In Minnesota he had multiple, it makes so much sense to switch do it now damnit don't wait.

Yeah, when they said they would wait until the end of the season they probably didn't expect Jeremy Ross to be his good. With him proving he can be a capable return man I see no reason why we would keep Cobb in there.

J-Mike88
01-02-2013, 07:12 PM
http://packersinsider.com/?p=5054
Are they? Or will they?

princefielder28
01-02-2013, 07:32 PM
http://packersinsider.com/?p=5054
Are they? Or will they?

The play from our safeties has me most concerned about the Packers' ability to return to the Super Bowl. Woodson's return may help this or it may not.

J-Mike88
01-02-2013, 11:12 PM
Assuming all the weapons are healthy and full-systems go, what's your %age you'd like to see each guy play?

I'm going to put the # of targets/carries I'd like to see, roughly.

Jones (8)
Jennings (7)
Cobb (7)
Jordy (7)
Jermichael (7)
36 pass attempts, 31 completions. Arod misses one per guy.
Each of the 5 guys catches 1 touchdown.

DuJuan Harris (14 carries, 3 catches)
Alex Green (4 carries, 1 catch)
Ryan Grant(0 carries, 0 catches)

That makes Rodgers 35/40, not bad.
Doable too if the OL plays their best.

BloodBrother
01-03-2013, 01:10 PM
Here's what you like to see

Cobb - Full participant
Nelson - Full participant
Woodson - Full participant
A Green - Full participant
House - Full participant
Starks - Limited participant

Worthy and Boykin are the only ones out. Worthy was obviously placed on IR yesterday. Tramon Williams didn't practice today because he has flu like symptoms(this is going around the team lately)

MM presser

- Cobb and Nelson looked good out there. See how both respond tomorrow. Both guys pushed themselves the last 2 days in practice to see how they'd respond. So far, so good

- NO LIMITATIONS OR RESTRICTIONS on Woodson. "Going to let him just play", MM said. Some thought that they'd ease him back into the game/be on a snap count, but MM said that won't be the case. He's been basically practicing for over a month, so he's in game shape. Leaning on his game experience for when they thrust him back out there this Saturday

PackerLegend
01-03-2013, 02:54 PM
Just found out ill be in Lambeau Saturday night! This is going to be my 3rd time going. Last time I went was in 2001 and 2002

J-Mike88
01-03-2013, 05:06 PM
Just found out ill be in Lambeau Saturday night! This is going to be my 3rd time going. Last time I went was in 2001 and 2002
Do we win when you go?

No team in the division has been as bad at stopping Peterson as the Packers have.
He's got 300 & 400 more yards against us than the Lions & Bears respectively.

A big key to the game, and I don't mean sour grapes, will be just how much holding the refs let the Vikings blockers get away with.
Think about that. We know holding goes on all the time in games, both sides.

But when a team makes its living running like they do with 28, it's a big deal if they let the TEs and WRs get away with blatant holding like Rudolph, Jenkins, and Simpson did last week and 4 weeks ago. I've seen less called holding than some they got away with.

We need the refs to call those early, which might force them to try and block more legally, allowing our guys to get off blocks easier and into Peterson.

It's the same way with receivers pushing off, or DB's grabbing & holding. Refs have to call that stuff early or it will continue and get worse.

We want a fair called game because we're the better team. We can't control luck, but if the game is called fairly and we play well, we move on to the 49ers.
http://t.co/bMMtPTIN

princefielder28
01-03-2013, 05:11 PM
asking the refs to help out by calling holding more is weak...the biggest issue isn't getting to Peterson; it's all about tackling and bringing him down...we've failed in that department far too much and his success against us has nothing to do with refs failing to call some penalties

J-Mike88
01-03-2013, 05:30 PM
asking the refs to help out by calling holding more is weak...the biggest issue isn't getting to Peterson; it's all about tackling and bringing him down...we've failed in that department far too much and his success against us has nothing to do with refs failing to call some penalties
True, but in reviewing the film, I saw a lot of holds on the edges allowed.
Holds that I have seen called thousands of times before.
If the refs set the tone early, call it tight, they won't be able to block like that.
And that will have an impact. I don't mind it being a factor.

Of course our ***** DB's need to tackle better. Hawk, Jones too.

Could Jeremy Ross be a Desmond Howard type of spark for this Packers playoff run?
http://packersinsider.com/?p=5070

J-Mike88
01-03-2013, 05:40 PM
If my memory from the past half hour is correct:

The last time the team with the best record in the regular season won the Super Bowl that season was the 2003 Patriots. That doesn't bode well for Denver and Atlanta. This "stat" I am 100% sure about.

Also, 6 of the last 7 seasons, a team playing on Wildcard Weekend has gone on to win the Super Bowl. It was either this, or has gone to the Super Bowl, not necessarily won it. Either way, that bodes well for the non-top 2 seeds.

And I believe the last player to win the MVP and the Super Bowl that same season was Kurt Warner and the 1999 Rams. So Rodgers may have been jinxed last year with that, but he won't this year. It's going to be Peterson, or maybe Manning, this time.

SuperPacker
01-03-2013, 05:44 PM
Stop it with all these pointless facts that have nothing to do with anything!

J-Mike88
01-03-2013, 07:35 PM
Stop it with all these pointless facts that have nothing to do with anything!
Trends, saw them all day long on Twitter from various Packer and NFL reporters!

This is what we have to stop :gtfo: Saturday:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc206/DMannDD/ADRunningOverAlHarris.gif
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/108527_o.gifhttp://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/40204_o.gif

http://www.jucoolimages.com/1/images/adrian_peterson/adrian_pterson_01.gif

I got the Over/Under for Peterson at 150 yards.
What you got?

PackerLegend
01-03-2013, 08:09 PM
Do we win when you go?

Don't worry... I'm 2-0 on my way to 3-0!

In 2001 the Packers won 21-20 against Tampa Bay. Allen Rossum actually returned a punt for a TD with 3 min left to win the game. Remember that play well.

In 2002 the Packers won 30-9 against the Redskins. Favre was actually hurt in this game with a knee injury and everyone was fearful he could be done. But I'm sure you know how that turned out. I also remember that play very well.

J-Mike88
01-03-2013, 10:16 PM
Alright. Make it 3-0, and then take a trip to San Francisco eh?

J-Mike88
01-03-2013, 11:49 PM
Vikings copying Packers fomula? http://packersinsider.com/?p=5105

J-Mike88
01-04-2013, 07:35 AM
3rd & 7.
3rd & 11.
3rd & 7.

In the first quarter alone last week, Christian Ponder converted on all of those.

It's not easy to pick up 3rd & longs..... the defense pretty much knows you're going to pass. And usually a pass rush comes. It didn't for us, because it seems only Clay Matthews right now has the intensity, will, and desire to get to the QB.
Contrast that to our 1st quarter. We went 3 & out both times to start the game.... while they marched and converted, and scored. That's why we fell down 13-0 early. Those two 3 & outs were the whole quarter for our offense, while they marched, converted, time after time.

We played good defense on 1st & 2nd downs. Just failed on 3rd downs, but as we know, 3rd downs are crucial.

Capers is probably going to dial up more pressure, as we fans want. But with that comes some risk of hitting us with some screens against massive blitzes. And unlike our run blocking on screens, we've seen teams like the Vikings execute their blocks downfield on screens and lead to big plays. We saw one to Toby Gerhart Sunday on us.

Not to mention the game-wnning drive where Ponder had another 3rd & 11 that he picked up throwing it over Casey Hayward.

We need Eric Walden to have a big game rushing the passer on 3rd downs. If not him, Dezman Moses.
I miss Nick Perry. He was a load to handle for some OTs, and all RBs trying to pick him up. Why couldn't we just put a club on his hand and let him come back by now?

http://packersinsider.com/?p=5087
OUR DAMN Defense has to get off the field!

BloodBrother
01-04-2013, 12:13 PM
This team misses Perry and Bishop. 2 big physical LBers who would have been huge for them vs the run. Brad Jones has been decent but like Hawk both of them aren't physical enough

princefielder28
01-04-2013, 05:53 PM
There are rumblings coming out of the Twins Cities that Joe Webb might be the quarterback we face tomorrow night.

J-Mike88
01-04-2013, 08:06 PM
There are rumblings coming out of the Twins Cities that Joe Webb might be the quarterback we face tomorrow night.
He's better than Spergyn Wynn though.
Anyway, I'll believe that one when I see it LOL.

SuperPacker
01-04-2013, 11:18 PM
There are rumblings coming out of the Twins Cities that Joe Webb might be the quarterback we face tomorrow night.

Ponder is injured?

That would be a nice surprise if true.

J-Mike88
01-04-2013, 11:47 PM
I put a small wager on the Peterson Over/Under yards rushing at Bovada.
The number was...... guess.

princefielder28
01-05-2013, 07:23 AM
I put a small wager on the Peterson Over/Under yards rushing at Bovada.
The number was...... guess.

I'd think it'd be placed at 127

TimmG6376
01-05-2013, 12:52 PM
Ponder is injured?

That would be a nice surprise if true.

He is listed as questionable but I'm not buying it. Seems like some gamesmanship on the part of Frazier. I think he'll start the game, whether he finishes when the elbow takes another hit is another story.

Dr. Gonzo
01-05-2013, 01:01 PM
I would not be upset if Ponder was injured. Joe Webb would tear you a new asshole.

SuperPacker
01-05-2013, 01:01 PM
Vote: Gonzo

:)

Ponder was good against our defense last week, I don't know if Joe Webb would do the same. I know i'd much prefer to face Webb.

yo123
01-05-2013, 01:08 PM
He is listed as questionable but I'm not buying it. Seems like some gamesmanship on the part of Frazier. I think he'll start the game, whether he finishes when the elbow takes another hit is another story.


This. Definitely a smoke screen.

princefielder28
01-05-2013, 02:12 PM
Vote: Gonzo

:)

Ponder was good against our defense last week, I don't know if Joe Webb would do the same. I know i'd much prefer to face Webb.

I prefer to face Ponder.

BloodBrother
01-05-2013, 02:29 PM
Same. Last thing they need is to have to deal with another runner

Plus, Ponder seems to be less than 100%.

princefielder28
01-05-2013, 03:46 PM
Reports coming out indicating it's becoming more likely that Webb starts

yo123
01-05-2013, 03:51 PM
Tom Pelissero is the guy that I trust the most and he's still guessing that he's going to play, but I am starting to see more on the other side as well. Nothing even close to definitive yet though, it will be interesting.

princefielder28
01-05-2013, 03:56 PM
Tom Pelissero is the guy that I trust the most and he's still guessing that he's going to play, but I am starting to see more on the other side as well. Nothing even close to definitive yet though, it will be interesting.

Webb taking ALL the reps this week has to be a favorable thing for him though. I know Ponder still took "mental reps" but I can't imagine the cold weather does much to aid an arm issue.

princefielder28
01-05-2013, 05:36 PM
Aaron Rodgers vs Joe Webb tonight

Ponder officially inactive

BloodBrother
01-05-2013, 05:40 PM
If they can't beat Joe Webb, they never had a shot against the likes of Matt Ryan, Peyton, Brady, etc

princefielder28
01-05-2013, 05:42 PM
If they can't beat Joe Webb, they never had a shot against the likes of Matt Ryan, Peyton, Brady, etc

We haven't played an athletic quarterback like this all season and if the read option is integrated, it'll be interesting to see how our defense handles it.

princefielder28
01-05-2013, 07:40 PM
that looks like a TD there but it's not worth challenging...regardless of how the challenge plays out, it'd run the risk of leaving us with only one challenge for the remainder of the game

SuperPacker
01-05-2013, 07:42 PM
nice drive by the offense. i like how we're moving the ball.

marshallb
01-05-2013, 10:09 PM
Congrats on the win. Your team deserved it, as the Vikings played like ****, but the Pack flat out outplayed them. I would say good luck the rest of the way, but I will be rooting against the Pack next week and should they win that one, every step of the way after that.

BloodBrother
01-05-2013, 10:12 PM
After that first drive, they figured things out on D and didn't allow a thing until that late blown coverage TD(get that fixed)

good win, but now comes the big test. Niners are the one team that I dont' like for GB as far as match-up's go. They'll need to play their best game and win the turnover battle(as well as score points off turnovers). Won't be easy, but I'll enjoy this one tonight. Always fun to knock out a hated division rival, especially after said team beat you the week prior and COST you a first round bye

SuperPacker
01-05-2013, 10:19 PM
If we can protect Aaron Rodgers, we have a decent chance of winning, but if the Smith's go crazy and get to A-Rod it could be a long day.

J-Mike88
01-05-2013, 10:51 PM
Does Rodgers like to take sacks sometimes?

This win was pretty ugly.... but I'll take 3 more ugly wins.

The 49ers do everything better than the Vikings do other than Peterson.
This will be a serious test and I feel they are the only team who can beat us in the NFC.

Did Jordy twist his ankle or what? Or hammy?

J-Mike88
01-05-2013, 10:55 PM
We haven't played an athletic quarterback like this all season and if the read option is integrated, it'll be interesting to see how our defense handles it.
Good call on the read option and athletic QB.
Now we step it up to a much much better version of that shitfest we saw tonight from Webb Simpson tonight.

Kaepernick can run it just as well, plus that guy can zing the ball. He's not rusty like Webb, and he has nice targets as well as a great OL & RB.

And a good coach. Harbaugh is a solid coach..... this is gonna be a big test, but I like having Woodson back with Matthews.

TimmG6376
01-05-2013, 11:01 PM
Does Rodgers like to take sacks sometimes?

This win was pretty ugly.... but I'll take 3 more ugly wins.

The 49ers do everything better than the Vikings do other than Peterson.
This will be a serious test and I feel they are the only team who can beat us in the NFC.

Did Jordy twist his ankle or what? Or hammy?

Was disappointed that the offense didn't keep it rolling after opening the half pretty strong.

Rodgers does have the tendency to hold on too long sometimes, but I'll take sacks over forcing the ball into INTs.

Jordy had a knee issue last week and I'm guessing he tweaked it. Hoping nothing serious.

What happened to Dujuan Harris? Saw a lot of Kuhn and Grant in the second half. Did I miss something? Not going to be happy if he hurt himself.

BloodBrother
01-05-2013, 11:51 PM
Jordy wasn't listed in the post game injury report, so I take it he just twisted his ankle(that's what it looked like to me) on his catch. He seemed fine afterwards and was laughing on the sideline

the only injury that MM listed in the post game presser was Finley, who had a "hamstring". Reporters on twitter seemed to say that it was cramps that he was dealing with

PackerLegend
01-05-2013, 11:52 PM
Wooooooooo 3 and 0 in Lambeau bitchzzzZzzZzz place was absolutely rocking!!!!!!! If you never been there go! PS your welcome packerlegend saved the day.

the_legend_killer
01-06-2013, 02:16 AM
Good game fellas. Can't say I'll be cheering for you moving forward, but I will say the better team won (As it usually does).

BloodBrother
01-06-2013, 02:22 AM
Thanks. Repped for your PTP avatar

the_legend_killer
01-06-2013, 02:32 AM
Millions of dollars.

princefielder28
01-06-2013, 09:01 AM
Our defense looked terrific after the first drive, and the approach against Peterson was a much needed adjustment from Capers. San Francisco obviously provides greater challenges next week with a more capable quarterback, a more threatening group of receivers, and an overall less predictable offense. Jim Harbaugh had all off-season to gameplan for us and he came out victorious in week one, and I hate that the Niners got that bye this week because I can guarantee he's devising a difficult plan of attack for the Packers.

J-Mike88
01-06-2013, 03:12 PM
I hate that the Niners got that bye this week because I can guarantee he's devising a difficult plan of attack for the Packers.
Yeah, that was the difference in the 2 seed & 3 seed.
The Seattle heist proved to be important.

That said, sure we can't know what the Niner offense is gonna throw at us. But we know we have to stop the run, and #85, first & foremost. I can't believe how long F*** Frank Gore has been doing it... since like 2005 or 2006 at least. Damn. Tire out.

Here's a very interesting article about the Packers-49ers from September 9th... http://packersinsider.com/?p=5153

What I am pissed off about is that we each have a few 1st round studs on the OL... but ours are on the IR, while all theirs are healthy and fine.
We also have 3 studs at LB on IR... they have none.

Their #1 RB still going.... we're down to like our 3rd or 4th....

Is it always bad luck for us or what?

J-Mike88
01-06-2013, 03:15 PM
It's time to turn the page from the Bye against Joe Webb Vikings, and someone create a DIVISIONAL Packers @ 49ers THREAD... it's not too soon.

Who has the hot hand here?

SuperPacker
01-06-2013, 03:17 PM
Yeah, that was the difference in the 2 seed & 3 seed.
The Seattle heist proved to be important.

That said, sure we can't know what the Niner offense is gonna throw at us. But we know we have to stop the run, and #85, first & foremost. I can't believe how long F*** Frank Gore has been doing it... since like 2005 or 2006 at least. Damn. Tire out.

Here's a very interesting article about the Packers-49ers from September 9th... http://packersinsider.com/?p=5153

What I am pissed off about is that we each have a few 1st round studs on the OL... but ours are on the IR, while all theirs are healthy and fine.
We also have 3 studs at LB on IR... they have none.

Their #1 RB still going.... we're down to like our 3rd or 4th....

Is it always bad luck for us or what?

Can we not blame injuries if we lose?

We had injuriezzzzzz in 2010 and it didn't stop us.

And we we're about as lucky as we could've been yesterday with Ponder being out. If Ponder was healthy it would've been a completely different game.