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Vince Lombardi
04-02-2007, 08:37 AM
Any Bucks fans here?

Join me in cheering for the Bucks to lose out so we can pass the Celtics and draft Kevin Durant (if the lottery doesn't screw us over)!

Barring injuries we'd be sick with Durant!

PG-????? Bring back Mo Williams or even better, sign Chauncey Billups next year.
SG-Michael Redd
SF-Kevin Durant
PF-Charlie Villanueva
C-Andrew Bogut

ccB
04-02-2007, 08:42 AM
Not a Bucks fan but I think youd benefit more from getting Oden. Bogut should be at PF like its nobodies business.


PG Mo Williams
SG Michael Redd
SF Charlie V (probably better off at SF also)
PF Andrew Bogut
C Greg Oden

I think that lineup is better than the one you posted. You have adequate offensive fire power, a defensive stopper downlow would be better than adding another scorer.

Vince Lombardi
04-02-2007, 09:47 AM
Not a Bucks fan but I think youd benefit more from getting Oden. Bogut should be at PF like its nobodies business.


PG Mo Williams
SG Michael Redd
SF Charlie V (probably better off at SF also)
PF Andrew Bogut
C Greg Oden

I think that lineup is better than the one you posted. You have adequate offensive fire power, a defensive stopper downlow would be better than adding another scorer.

I don't have a problem with that either. I know Bogut could play PF but I wasn't sure if Villanueva could play SF. If that's the case I'd be all for Oden, more than likely we'd have to get the #1 pick to get him though. We do desparatley need defense.

PACKmanN
04-02-2007, 09:58 AM
lol, NBA is the only sport where you need alot of talented back ups, thats how the Raptors are in the Playoffs :)

Jay
04-02-2007, 09:59 AM
If the Celtics don't get Durant or Oden out of this season I may kill myself. OK not really. But we're cursed when it comes to the ping-pong balls, so you have a shot...

Vince Lombardi
04-02-2007, 11:42 AM
If the Celtics don't get Durant or Oden out of this season I may kill myself. OK not really. But we're cursed when it comes to the ping-pong balls, so you have a shot...

You guys need to stop winning games against teams like Cleveland. We've got a nice losing streak going, if we keep it up we may finish the season ahead of you (in the lottery standings). With Bogut and Villanueva out for the season we're probably not gonna win many more. It's bittersweet rooting for them to lose, but a good draft pick is all we have going for this season.

someone447
04-02-2007, 12:00 PM
If we would get either the first or 2nd pick we could have a crazy team. If we get a top 2 pick we will get one of those guys.

Vince Lombardi
04-02-2007, 12:19 PM
If we would get either the first or 2nd pick we could have a crazy team. If we get a top 2 pick we will get one of those guys.

If they both declare that is....

Neither of them have any reason not to, but you never know. If those to aren't an option we'd have to go with either Julian or Brandan Wright, though there's a possibility Julian won't declare either.

Whistler6
04-02-2007, 12:34 PM
I am 100% agreeing with the idea of Bogut at Power Forward and the Bucks drafting Oden. However, this draft has A LOT of *impact players. Anywhere in the top 6 and Milwaukee will find someone who will immediately contribute

PackerLegend
04-02-2007, 01:57 PM
GO BUCKS! LOSE OUT!!

Draft 1st Kevin Durant Or Oden 2nd and IM HAPPY!

princefielder28
04-02-2007, 03:57 PM
GO BUCKS! LOSE OUT!!

Draft 1st Kevin Durant Or Oden 2nd and IM HAPPY!

2.5 games out of 2nd and we play Boston twice :)

PACKmanN
04-02-2007, 06:43 PM
go Raptors, playoffs are going to be carzy!

Mwkick
04-02-2007, 07:12 PM
The reason the Raptors are in the playoffs is because the Eastern Conference sucks....they should change the rules that only winning teams make the playoffs. ridiculous how bad the east is.

Bogut is a true center. they tried him at PF last year and he struggled. C is his natural position. The bucks would be dumb to take Oden over Durant. They'd almost have to trade Bugot then and he's "the franchise". And Villenueva can play SF, but he's a true PF as well. He's not fast enough to guard SF.

I just hope they get a 1 or 2 pick. First time in my life I want a team to lose!!! Then again it doesn't REALLY matter, they could still get the number 1 pick.

princefielder28
04-02-2007, 07:14 PM
The reason the Raptors are in the playoffs is because the Eastern Conference sucks....they should change the rules that only winning teams make the playoffs. ridiculous how bad the east is.

Bogut is a true center. they tried him at PF last year and he struggled. C is his natural position. The bucks would be dumb to take Oden over Durant. They'd almost have to trade Bugot then and he's "the franchise". And Villenueva can play SF, but he's a true PF as well. He's not fast enough to guard SF.

I just hope they get a 1 or 2 pick. First time in my life I want a team to lose!!! Then again it doesn't REALLY matter, they could still get the number 1 pick.

Draft Durant!!!!

Vince Lombardi
04-03-2007, 10:56 PM
another sweet loss tonight, that's 7 in a row!

here's what we've got left:

Wed 4 Boston (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=bos) 8:00 PM
Fri 6 at Atlanta (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=atl) 7:30 PM
Sat 7 New York (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=nyk) 8:30 PM
Mon 9 Orlando (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=orl) 8:00 PM
Wed 11 Indiana (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=ind) 8:00 PM
Fri 13 at Boston (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=bos) 7:30 PM
Sat 14 Charlotte (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=cha) 8:30 PM
Mon 16 Atlanta (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=atl) 8:00 PM
Wed 18 at Cleveland (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=cle) 7:00 PM

GB12
04-03-2007, 11:00 PM
another sweet loss tonight, that's 7 in a row!

here's what we've got left:

Wed 4 Boston (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=bos) 8:00 PM-W
Fri 6 at Atlanta (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=atl) 7:30 PM-W
Sat 7 New York (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=nyk) 8:30 PM-L
Mon 9 Orlando (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=orl) 8:00 PM-L
Wed 11 Indiana (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=ind) 8:00 PM-L
Fri 13 at Boston (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=bos) 7:30 PM-W
Sat 14 Charlotte (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=cha) 8:30 PM-L
Mon 16 Atlanta (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=atl) 8:00 PM-L
Wed 18 at Cleveland (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=cle) 7:00 PM-W


I got them finishing out 5-5 but they all could easily be loses.

Vince Lombardi
04-03-2007, 11:03 PM
I got them finishing out 5-5 but they all could easily be loses.

well seeing as this is pretty much our lineup for the rest of the year, they could all pretty much be losses.


Michael Redd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3442), GF
Ersan Ilyasova (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3962), F
Brian Skinner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3265), FC
Charlie Bell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3570), GF
Mo Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3750), PG

GB12
04-03-2007, 11:06 PM
well seeing as this is pretty much our lineup for the rest of the year, they could all pretty much be losses.


Michael Redd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3442), GF
Ersan Ilyasova (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3962), F
Brian Skinner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3265), FC
Charlie Bell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3570), GF
Mo Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3750), PG

Yeah they were all complete guesses. There aren't any that I could tell you would be a sure win.

princefielder28
04-04-2007, 07:15 AM
Yeah they were all complete guesses. There aren't any that I could tell you would be a sure win.

I don't think we should complain at all if they lose.

bearsfan_51
04-04-2007, 02:36 PM
Weren't you already supposed to not suck?

GB12
04-04-2007, 03:13 PM
I don't think we should complain at all if they lose.
That's what I'm saying.

Weren't you already supposed to not suck?

Yeah, I wasn't expecting this kind of year. Injuries have absolutely killed though. I'm glad Stotts is gone and i think we will be a playoff team next year.

princefielder28
04-04-2007, 04:18 PM
That's what I'm saying.



Yeah, I wasn't expecting this kind of year. Injuries have absolutely killed though. I'm glad Stotts is gone and i think we will be a playoff team next year.

You bring up the coaching sitaution with Stotts being fired but he should've never gooten the job becuase Terry Porter was doing a decent job and should've been held on to.

GB12
04-04-2007, 05:43 PM
You bring up the coaching sitaution with Stotts being fired but he should've never gooten the job becuase Terry Porter was doing a decent job and should've been held on to.

Yeah I would have rather have had Porter than Stotts. I didn't agree with the fireing of Porter but at least they are consistant.

Mwkick
04-04-2007, 10:34 PM
I didn't like how they fired him. It was a shock to everyone after garaunteeing his job was safe. But personally I didn't think he was a good hire in the first place. Easier said now than before, but I was hoping they would try to get someone with a little more experience. And then the Stotts signing....like someone said, at least they are consistent. It would have been nice to see them get Flip Saunders. He was interested at one point. Oh well, I guess that's business....

BTW, the bucks beat the Celtics tonight for those of you who didn't hear. My roommate was all pissed, but even with a "worse" record, you could still not end up with the first pick. Gotta love the lottery...

beef
04-05-2007, 09:51 PM
Any Bucks fans here?

PG-????? Bring back Mo Williams or even better, sign Chauncey Billups next year.
SG-Michael Redd
SF-Kevin Durant
PF-Charlie Villanueva
C-Andrew Bogut

that's even worse defense than we have now. and i doubt there are enough balls to go around.




PG Mo Williams
SG Michael Redd
SF Charlie V (probably better off at SF also)
PF Andrew Bogut
C Greg Oden



this wouldn't be great defensively either. charlie v cannot play sf consistently because he doesn't have the quickness to guard 3s every game. bogut has trouble with the quicker 4s but i like this better than the first.


my depth chart if i get a top pick:
mo/bell
redd/mo
patterson/simmons
bogut/charlie
oden/bogut

i think that this lineup, if coach k uses it correctly through bogut, would be great. and if he sticks to his "if you don't play defense, you'll be benched" policy, we could be a contender.
i just hate how stotts has misused bogut. i think he's gonna be great.


however, if we don't get a top 2 or so pick, i wouldn't be opposed to grabbing conley if he declares and just let mo walk or S&T him.

princefielder28
04-05-2007, 09:52 PM
that's even worse defense than we have now. and i doubt there are enough balls to go around.




this wouldn't be great defensively either. charlie v cannot play sf consistently because he doesn't have the quickness to guard 3s every game. bogut has trouble with the quicker 4s but i like this better than the first.


my depth chart if i get a top pick:
mo/bell
redd/mo
patterson/simmons
bogut/charlie
oden/bogut

i think that this lineup, if coach k uses it correctly through bogut, would be great. and if he sticks to his "if you don't play defense, you'll be benched" policy, we could be a contender.
i just hate how stotts has misused bogut. i think he's gonna be great.


however, if we don't get a top 2 or so pick, i wouldn't be opposed to grabbing conley if he declares and just let mo walk or S&T him.

Simmons would start over Patterson

beef
04-07-2007, 02:13 PM
if he's completely rehabbed, sure.

princefielder28
04-07-2007, 02:22 PM
if he's completely rehabbed, sure.

I would assume so considering it would be a total year

Vince Lombardi
04-09-2007, 10:21 PM
well another loss tonight, and now Redd is shut down for the last 6 games. Looks like losing out is very likely now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2831245

Vince Lombardi
04-17-2007, 08:44 PM
Well, with ATL's win tonight we've got 3rd place locked up regardless if we win or lose against CLE tomorrow. Now all we need is the lottery to go our way!

beef
04-17-2007, 08:49 PM
hopefully this is the last time we're in this "great" of a draft position for a while. buuuut i'll still be praying for a top 2 pick :D

princefielder28
04-17-2007, 09:12 PM
hopefully this is the last time we're in this "great" of a draft position for a while. buuuut i'll still be praying for a top 2 pick :D

I'll pray with you

Boston
04-17-2007, 09:19 PM
Well, with ATL's win tonight we've got 3rd place locked up regardless if we win or lose against CLE tomorrow. Now all we need is the lottery to go our way!

When is the lottery?

Vince Lombardi
04-17-2007, 09:50 PM
When is the lottery?

not sure, but the draft is June 28

beef
04-17-2007, 11:39 PM
i'm not 100% but i'm pretty sure i heard it was this sunday.

EDIT: scratch that, May 22nd.

Vince Lombardi
04-20-2007, 07:17 PM
May 22 NBA Draft Lottery
May 29 NBA Pre-Draft Camp begins
June 18 Deadline for early entrants to withdraw

NBA Draft - Vital Information

What: 2007 NBA Draft
When: June 28, 2007
Where: Madison Square Garden, NY
Rounds: Two rounds

princefielder28
04-20-2007, 07:19 PM
May 22 NBA Draft Lottery
May 29 NBA Pre-Draft Camp begins
June 18 Deadline for early entrants to withdraw

NBA Draft - Vital Information

What: 2007 NBA Draft
When: June 28, 2007
Where: Madison Square Garden, NY
Rounds: Two rounds

Thanks Vince!

Big_Brother
04-24-2007, 07:21 PM
Who would you guys want to get if we (heaven forbid) don't get a top 2 pick?

Obviously it will all depend on our position, but who wouldn't you mind getting as a consolation prize assuming Durant and Oden are both gone?

Someone I wouldn't mind at all seeing the Bucks grab is Corey Brewer. I think he could fill out our roster perfectly. He really showed me a lot in this most recent championship run.

So who would you guys want?

GB12
04-24-2007, 08:12 PM
Who would you guys want to get if we (heaven forbid) don't get a top 2 pick?

Obviously it will all depend on our position, but who wouldn't you mind getting as a consolation prize assuming Durant and Oden are both gone?

Someone I wouldn't mind at all seeing the Bucks grab is Corey Brewer. I think he could fill out our roster perfectly. He really showed me a lot in this most recent championship run.

So who would you guys want?

1.Oden
2.Durant
3.Horford
4.Wright

Vince Lombardi
04-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Who would you guys want to get if we (heaven forbid) don't get a top 2 pick?

Obviously it will all depend on our position, but who wouldn't you mind getting as a consolation prize assuming Durant and Oden are both gone?

Someone I wouldn't mind at all seeing the Bucks grab is Corey Brewer. I think he could fill out our roster perfectly. He really showed me a lot in this most recent championship run.

So who would you guys want?

Al Horford, Julian Wright, Brandon Wright

Mwkick
04-24-2007, 10:07 PM
They would all be project players. The talent drops off so much after those 2. It would be interesting. I say trade the pick. You have the youth and the cap space to sign someone big.
I don't like any of the Florida guys other than Horford. Jimmy Kimmel said it all about Noah, "Joakim Noah has done a lot for women's basketball." And I just don't know where Brewer would play. He's not that big.
Enough rambling, if they keep the pick, draft Horford or bring in some athleticism with Brandon Wright...

princefielder28
04-24-2007, 10:10 PM
They would all be project players. The talent drops off so much after those 2. It would be interesting. I say trade the pick. You have the youth and the cap space to sign someone big.
I don't like any of the Florida guys other than Horford. Jimmy Kimmel said it all about Noah, "Joakim Noah has done a lot for women's basketball." And I just don't know where Brewer would play. He's not that big.
Enough rambling, if they keep the pick, draft Horford or bring in some athleticism with Brandon Wright...

Brewer can be a solid NBA player at 6'8" with long arms and a good defender, but wouldn't be a good choice at 3 or so. I like Wright after the Big 2

Mwkick
04-24-2007, 10:32 PM
Brewer is the second coming of Tayshaun Prince. He'll have to fit in the right system...

Vince Lombardi
05-21-2007, 02:50 PM
The draft lottery is tomorrow, everybody get their good luck charms ready!

GB12
05-21-2007, 02:59 PM
The draft lottery is tomorrow, everybody get their good luck charms ready!

What time? Harris should/will bring the ones from 2 years ago.

Vince Lombardi
05-21-2007, 03:08 PM
What time? Harris should/will bring the ones from 2 years ago.

8:30 on ESPN

Sportsfan486
05-21-2007, 05:05 PM
8:30 on ESPN

I'm seriously going to ruin a pair of shorts if we get a top 2 pick. Durant... oh how I love you Durant...

Why would we take Oden unless we got the #2 and the #1 took Durant? Bogut might never be a superstar but he's solid at center and still improving. Durant would fill our biggest need and just..be..awesome.

Vince Lombardi
05-21-2007, 10:08 PM
I'm seriously going to ruin a pair of shorts if we get a top 2 pick. Durant... oh how I love you Durant...

Why would we take Oden unless we got the #2 and the #1 took Durant? Bogut might never be a superstar but he's solid at center and still improving. Durant would fill our biggest need and just..be..awesome.

Either one would be amazing! I think if we got Oden, Bogut could probably make the transition to PF. I know he played there as a rookie, and even though he struggled some, I think he has the skill set to play there. And Charlie V. may be better suited at SF than PF. This would give us a very large lineup and significantly upgrade our defense.

On the flip side, Durant would be a huge scoring threat to partner up with Redd and would give us an extremely potent offense. Durant is also a pretty decent defender and would help us out somewhat with our biggest weakness, though not nearly as significantly as Oden.

Either way I'd be extremely happy.

GB12
05-21-2007, 10:10 PM
Either one would be amazing! I think if we got Oden, Bogut could probably make the transition to PF. I know he played there as a rookie, and even though he struggled some, I think he has the skill set to play there. And Charlie V. may be better suited at SF than PF. This would give us a very large lineup and significantly upgrade our defense.

On the flip side, Durant would be a huge scoring threat to partner up with Redd and would give us an extremely potent offense. Durant is also a pretty decent defender and would help us out somewhat with our biggest weakness, though not nearly as significantly as Oden.

Either way I'd be extremely happy.

Yeah I'd rather have oden and shift Bogut and Charlie down a spot.

princefielder28
05-21-2007, 10:18 PM
Yeah I'd rather have oden and shift Bogut and Charlie down a spot.

Bogut plays better at his natural position of a 5 but it would be beneficial for Charlie V to play 3 b/c, like Bogut, I think thats his more natural position

GB12
05-21-2007, 10:19 PM
8:30 on ESPN

It's actually 7:30 for central time.

princefielder28
05-22-2007, 06:51 AM
Well today is the big day!

Vince Lombardi
05-22-2007, 08:25 AM
It's actually 7:30 for central time.

I'm on eastern time. ;)

GB12
05-22-2007, 03:07 PM
I'm on eastern time. ;)

Really? Where are you now?

PackerLegend
05-22-2007, 04:55 PM
come on lets get #1!

princefielder28
05-22-2007, 05:36 PM
come on lets get #1!

If we get the 1st pick I don't know what I'm gonna do but I'll be so happy

Sportsfan486
05-22-2007, 07:24 PM
If we get the 1st pick I don't know what I'm gonna do but I'll be so happy

2nd should be just as good, only one or two other teams that would take Durant over Oden.

CMOOOOOOON!

Vince Lombardi
05-22-2007, 07:32 PM
Really? Where are you now?

I live in Orlando, FL.

It's on! Let's go Bucks!!!

GB12
05-22-2007, 07:50 PM
Ouch. :(

Sportsfan486
05-22-2007, 07:50 PM
6...
Noooooooooooooooooo

Boston
05-22-2007, 07:51 PM
That sucks.

Football Fan
05-22-2007, 07:51 PM
OMG, 6th. That sucked

princefielder28
05-22-2007, 07:51 PM
Noooooooo!!!!!

Boston
05-22-2007, 07:51 PM
The lottery is pretty weak in itself. It'd be better if it showed the simulation happening.

GB12
05-22-2007, 07:52 PM
Bogut coming back to haunt us.

M1Koter
05-22-2007, 07:52 PM
well that sucks

princefielder28
05-22-2007, 08:02 PM
Well, who do you guys want at 6???? I would like Yi Jianlian and I know GB wants Horford.

Vince Lombardi
05-22-2007, 08:08 PM
Well, who do you guys want at 6???? I would like Yi Jianlian and I know GB wants Horford.

I like Horford best, followed by one of the Wrights, then Conley.

PackerLegend
05-23-2007, 03:02 PM
6, what a joke. The draft should be just like the NFL were the worst team gets the first pick it makes the most sense over some stupid lottery.

princefielder28
05-23-2007, 06:34 PM
6, what a joke. The draft should be just like the NFL were the worst team gets the first pick it makes the most sense over some stupid lottery.

The Lottery is better though b/c a team like Boston who tanked the season ended up with 5th pick

princefielder28
06-16-2007, 10:10 AM
The Bucks worked out UNC PF Brandan Wright and came away very impressed; the Bucks are rumored to have high interest in Florida PF Al Horford but he will probably be gone by pick 6.

princefielder28
06-22-2007, 09:11 AM
The Bucks exercised 08-09 options on C Andrew Bogut and F Charlie Villanueva

princefielder28
06-22-2007, 11:40 AM
The more I look at stuff the more I think UNC PF Brandan Wright will be drafted by the Bucks. Oden/ Durant will be 1 and 2 and then Horford/ Conley will be 3 and 4. Then comes the Boston Celtics. Danny Ainge is going to draft a player that will give him an instant payout and Wright is more of a developmental player that could be a superstar in 3 or 4 years. So he will not be drafted by Boston and he will remain at 6.

nbarnett56
06-22-2007, 12:23 PM
I think alot of it will have to do on wether they feel that Mo Williams will resign with the team or not. If they don't think so, then Conley is the pick. I'd love to see Horford, Wright, or Brewer as a Buck. I also wouldn't be upset with Thornton or Green. I hope Mo resigns because I although I like Conley, I really don't want a guard as our top pick.

princefielder28
06-22-2007, 12:26 PM
I think alot of it will have to do on wether they feel that Mo Williams will resign with the team or not. If they don't think so, then Conley is the pick. I'd love to see Horford, Wright, or Brewer as a Buck. I also wouldn't be upset with Thornton or Green. I hope Mo resigns because I although I like Conley, I really don't want a guard as our top pick.

In all likelihood Conley won't be there though b/c Atlanta really needs a PG and if they don't choose him with the 3rd pick then Atlanta really likes Horford. At 4 Memphis also really likes Horford but if he is unavailable Jerry West would probably go with Conley.

nbarnett56
06-22-2007, 12:58 PM
In all likelihood Conley won't be there though b/c Atlanta really needs a PG and if they don't choose him with the 3rd pick then Atlanta really likes Horford. At 4 Memphis also really likes Horford but if he is unavailable Jerry West would probably go with Conley.

You never know what will happen. Yes they need a PG but they've needed one for a few years now and keep passing them up. Either way I feel like we are getting a good player so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

GB12
06-22-2007, 04:08 PM
I really hate the thought of taking Conley. My first choice is Horford, then I'm really liking Jeff Green. Wright would be just fine with me aswell. I'd take Mo over Conley hands down, Conley is more of a true point guard but I don't really see him as an improvement to our team. If we aren't able to resign Williams I am confident going into the season with Charlie Bell. I am a huge Bell fan, he's my favorite player not counting Redd. Now resigning Williams is huge , I'm not saying that Bell should start over him just that I'm alright with him if we can't resign Williams. We don't need a PG, we need a forward. Whether it's a 3 or a 4 something has to change there.

roidrunner
06-22-2007, 04:10 PM
I have the feeling that the Bucks are going to take Yi. but i think we are going to trade him if we do get him. there is no real reason why i think this but its just a hunch.

princefielder28
06-22-2007, 04:33 PM
I really hate the thought of taking Conley. My first choice is Horford, then I'm really liking Jeff Green. Wright would be just fine with me aswell. I'd take Mo over Conley hands down, Conley is more of a true point guard but I don't really see him as an improvement to our team. If we aren't able to resign Williams I am confident going into the season with Charlie Bell. I am a huge Bell fan, he's my favorite player not counting Redd. Now resigning Williams is huge , I'm not saying that Bell should start over him just that I'm alright with him if we can't resign Williams. We don't need a PG, we need a forward. Whether it's a 3 or a 4 something has to change there.

If we do draft Wright then Villanueva could always move to the 3 b/c IMO he's more of a natural 3 anyways. With the PG position I think it is crucial to re-sign Mo Williams b/c he is very young, 24, and he will only continue to get better. If we can't re-sign him Charlie Bell has shown that he is capable and in free agency Chauncey Billups is always a possibility b/c he has expressed some interest in the past in coming here.

Vince Lombardi
06-22-2007, 07:28 PM
I really hate the thought of taking Conley. My first choice is Horford, then I'm really liking Jeff Green. Wright would be just fine with me aswell. I'd take Mo over Conley hands down, Conley is more of a true point guard but I don't really see him as an improvement to our team. If we aren't able to resign Williams I am confident going into the season with Charlie Bell. I am a huge Bell fan, he's my favorite player not counting Redd. Now resigning Williams is huge , I'm not saying that Bell should start over him just that I'm alright with him if we can't resign Williams. We don't need a PG, we need a forward. Whether it's a 3 or a 4 something has to change there.

That's exactly how I feel. Charlie needs to move to the 3 and we desperately need a defensive minded 4 as we already have the offensive firepower. My first choice would be Horford, but he'll most likely be gone. Green has really been growing on me lately though, and I wouldn't have any problem with him being the pick. Both of the Wrights are very intriguing but have a lot of questions about their motivation. All in all I think we'll get a solid player. Can't wait!

GB12
06-22-2007, 08:41 PM
That's exactly how I feel. Charlie needs to move to the 3 and we desperately need a defensive minded 4 as we already have the offensive firepower. My first choice would be Horford, but he'll most likely be gone. Green has really been growing on me lately though, and I wouldn't have any problem with him being the pick. Both of the Wrights are very intriguing but have a lot of questions about their motivation. All in all I think we'll get a solid player. Can't wait!
Villanueva sliding down to the 3 is the best possible move, but I would be just fine with kicking out Simmons to put Green at the 3. Horford is exactly the kind of player we need, but if he's gone it gets shakey at PF. Brandan Wright is alright, but he has too small of a frame. At 6-10 he weighs only 200 lbs. He'll get pushed around like a ***** in the post if he doesn't add weight.

princefielder28
06-25-2007, 08:19 AM
The Chicago Tribune put this idea out today:

The Bucks re-sign Mo Williams and then deal him and the 6th pick to Atlanta for Picks 3 and 11

nbarnett56
06-25-2007, 08:33 AM
The Chicago Tribune put this idea out today:

The Bucks re-sign Mo Williams and then deal him and the 6th pick to Atlanta for Picks 3 and 11

That would basically ensure that Conley would be the #3 pick. Why wouldn't we just re-sign Mo and draft a forward at #6 instead?

princefielder28
06-25-2007, 10:37 AM
That would basically ensure that Conley would be the #3 pick. Why wouldn't we just re-sign Mo and draft a forward at #6 instead?

Mo wants 9 or 10 million a year and I don't know if the Bucks want to pay that.

nbarnett56
06-25-2007, 10:39 AM
Mo wants 9 or 10 million a year and I don't know if the Bucks want to pay that.

Yeah I saw that on the ESPN boards. It also said that the Bucks are willing to pay $7 or $8 million per year. Whats another million or 2? I really hope they can keep him because I do not want Conley.

princefielder28
06-25-2007, 11:16 AM
Yeah I saw that on the ESPN boards. It also said that the Bucks are willing to pay $7 or $8 million per year. Whats another million or 2? I really hope they can keep him because I do not want Conley.

Well if they got the 3rd pick I would guess that they would select Al Horford and then with Pick 11 maybe Javaris Crittenton. Then come free agency I see them making a strong push at Chauncey Billups, but all this is very unlikely.

nbarnett56
06-25-2007, 11:49 AM
Well if they got the 3rd pick I would guess that they would select Al Horford and then with Pick 11 maybe Javaris Crittenton. Then come free agency I see them making a strong push at Chauncey Billups, but all this is very unlikely.

Ah true, I guess that wouldn't be such a bad option but I'd prefer to keep Williams and hopefully draft Brandan Wright.

GB12
06-25-2007, 12:52 PM
The Chicago Tribune put this idea out today:

The Bucks re-sign Mo Williams and then deal him and the 6th pick to Atlanta for Picks 3 and 11

I'd rather resign him and keep him.

I have made up my mind, Jeff Green at 6.

princefielder28
06-25-2007, 05:59 PM
According to sources the bucks are looking to move up in an attempt to select Florida PF Al Horford

nbarnett56
06-25-2007, 07:10 PM
According to sources the bucks are looking to move up in an attempt to select Florida PF Al Horford

I'd like that. Sounds like Brandon Wright is slipping a bit. I'd still like to see him as our pick. A youngster with superstar potential that we can afford to bring along slowly for a year or 2.

princefielder28
06-25-2007, 07:28 PM
I'd like that. Sounds like Brandon Wright is slipping a bit. I'd still like to see him as our pick. A youngster with superstar potential that we can afford to bring along slowly for a year or 2.

The nice thing about drafting Horford would be that we could move Charlie V to the 3 and Simmons could come off the bench following his injury.

nbarnett56
06-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Lots of Bucks news to get to:

Al Thornton is working out for Milwaukee Tuesday, hoping that he could go at No. 6. Still, if the Sixers are unable to pull off a trade involving one of their three first-rounders, Thornton could end up in Philly with the No. 12 pick. While it's not too far of a stretch that he could be taken at No. 6, that is higher than most teams have him rated. The Sixers are trying to trade up to have a shot at Georgetown's Jeff Green, who is the player they're rumored to desire the most.

Phoenix has reportedly offered Shawn Marion to the Bucks for the No. 6 pick, among many other Bucks' assets. The Bucks are not said to be interested due to the fact that Marion can opt out after next season. And if they did pull off this deal, it would tie the hands of the club as most of the Bucks' money would be tied up with Marion and Michael Redd, diminishing the Bucks' ability to address other concerns.

to ESPN's Andy Katz, the Sixers offered the Bucks two of their first-round picks (Nos. 12 and 21) for Milwaukee's No. 6 so the Sixers can take Jeff Green. Another offer was with Portland, which wanted No. 6 and Dan Gadzuric for Jarrett Jack and Joel Przybilla. Will the Blazers be happy with Gadzuric at center if Oden goes down with an injury? They would likely use No. 6 to acquire Mike Conley, which would indicate that they're set to take his best friend, Greg Oden, with the first pick.

The Bucks are reportedly upset that Yi Jianlian was not made available to them for a private workout in the last few weeks.

The Bucks are starting to realize there's a very good chance Yi will be there when they pick at No. 6, and might be the best player available at that point. They've already said they'd let Yi compete with Charlie Villanueva for a starting job, but Yi's people say he is only interested in playing in major cities with large Asian populations. We're guessing you can add "great teams" to that list, as he worked out for the Suns on Monday. Joakim Noah also refused to work out for the Bucks, so it should be very interesting to see what they do on Thursday if Mike Conley is no longer available for their pick and Noah and Yi are.

GB12
06-26-2007, 03:33 PM
Joakim Noah also refused to work out for the Bucks, so it should be very interesting to see what they do on Thursday if Mike Conley is no longer available for their pick and Noah and Yi are.
Yesssss!

Take Jeff Green. Hell even if they are there take Green. I hate the thought of taking Conley, only player I'd take over Green is Horford.

My wish list

1. Al Horford

2. Jeff Green



3. Brandan Wright
4. Corey Brewer
5. Yi Jianlian





6.Conley

princefielder28
06-27-2007, 07:56 AM
The Bucks and Sixers continue to talk about swapping draft picks. The Bucks would send Pick 6 to Philly for Picks 12 and 21.

princefielder28
06-27-2007, 09:01 AM
PG Earl Boykins opted out of the last year of his contract making him an unrestricted free agent. Boykins was due to make $3,000,000 and will probably see larger figures in free agency.

princefielder28
06-27-2007, 09:44 AM
I was just looking over the Bucks draft history and recently with 1st round picks we have been awful

2000- Jason Collier
2001- no 1st rounder
2002- Marcus Haislip
2003- TJ Ford (one of the few good ones)
2004- no 1st rounder
2005- Andrew Bogut (one of the few good ones)
2006- no 1st rounder (jamaal Magloire trade: BOOOOOOOOO!)

nbarnett56
06-27-2007, 09:52 AM
I was just looking over the Bucks draft history and recently with 1st round picks we have been awful

2000- Jason Collier
2001- no 1st rounder
2002- Marcus Haislip
2003- TJ Ford (one of the few good ones)
2004- no 1st rounder
2005- Andrew Bogut (one of the few good ones)
2006- no 1st rounder (jamaal Magloire trade: BOOOOOOOOO!)

I don't even think that Ford worked out for us that well. His injuries hurt us and him playing much better with Bosh just shows that we needed a big man for him to get the ball too. With that said, really how good is Bogut? To me is a bit inconsistant and isn't a great defender. He can score but he needs to become a 15/10 guy for us. I like that he takes alot of charges but we can't count on him for blocking shots. Trading for Magloire was terrible but I liked that we eased Bogut into the 5 instead of starting him there as a rookie. Hopefully we can add Brandon Wright because I feel like we need another scorer and this guy has a ton of potential.

jbooshey
06-27-2007, 10:26 AM
If we took Brandon Wright I highly doubt it would be for his scoring ability...the guy has range out to 5ft. right now, but he would be a good addition based on potential...as long as Horford, Brewer, and Green are all off the board as well...I might even rather have the other Wright also.

nbarnett56
06-28-2007, 08:09 AM
If we took Brandon Wright I highly doubt it would be for his scoring ability...the guy has range out to 5ft. right now, but he would be a good addition based on potential...as long as Horford, Brewer, and Green are all off the board as well...I might even rather have the other Wright also.

I really like Brandon Wright. He is a bit of a project but we wouldn't need him to start. I hope we don't draft Conley but more and more thats looking like what will happen. Larry Harris is drafting for his job so he's going to take the most NBA ready player or a safe pick of a guard.....

GB12
06-28-2007, 01:45 PM
I really like Brandon Wright. He is a bit of a project but we wouldn't need him to start. I hope we don't draft Conley but more and more thats looking like what will happen. Larry Harris is drafting for his job so he's going to take the most NBA ready player or a safe pick of a guard.....
Yeah, I'm hoping for Memphis to take him so we don't even have the chance. I want Harris fired soon anyway though, he's done nothing to help the team.

nbarnett56
06-28-2007, 07:18 PM
Yi it is! Although I would have liked Brandon Wright, Yi will give the Bucks some international attention and a player who can come an and play right away.

jbooshey
06-28-2007, 09:17 PM
Terrible pick...with this pick we get a guy that doesn't want to be in Milwaukee, a guy that needs to get A LOT stronger before he can play in the post, a guy that can't defend or rebound which is what we need, a guy that will mess with chemistry with the pressures to play him when he won't be ready right away, a guy that averaged 1.3 blocks in a garbage league with no other legit big men, a guy that GM Harris was unable to watch personally, a guy that brings total BAGGAGE with the whole government officials thing, a guy that will likely opt out of a his rookie contract after we develop him into his prime so he can go help some other team...what a stupid stupid pick...the Bucks blow it again and take a step backwards somehow with the 6th overall pick...it really steams me when there were other prospects that would have helped instantly and been glad to do it...we had other BETTER options (Brewer, B. Wright, J. Wright, among others). I HATE this pick with a passion...the Bucks need to either trade Yi within the next couple days or keep him and sign Gerald Wallace to salvage the off season...Yi will be our own little Eli Manning...except worse because we might actually keep him!

princefielder28
06-29-2007, 07:37 AM
Following the lottery Yi was the individual that I hoped the Bucks were going to take and they went ahead and did so. This was a terrific pick b/c Yi can step in and play right away. He does bring some baggage but he'll be an instant All-Star due to the 1.3 billion peopel in China and it will help the Bucks business side of basketball. I imagine Charlie V will be moved to the 3, and if we can hold on to Mo, the Bucks should be a playoff team in '07-'08.

roidrunner
06-29-2007, 09:23 AM
rumor is that Yi's agent is going to ask for him to be traded today cause they are not happy with him being in milwaukee. so what could we get for Yi if we were to trade for him?? hypothetically

nbarnett56
06-29-2007, 09:30 AM
rumor is that Yi's agent is going to ask for him to be traded today cause they are not happy with him being in milwaukee. so what could we get for Yi if we were to trade for him?? hypothetically

Yi Jianlian claims he will not be another Gary Sheffield or Javon Walker.

Though Yi's camp refused to let the Bucks watch Yi workout last week, Yi said in an interview Thursday night that he planned to play for the Bucks this season.

"I'm not really familiar with the city, but I'm happy to play with the team and I'm happy to play in the NBA," Yi said.

"I don't know much about the team...in China we didn't see a lot of games. I've never been therre, it's kind of a new city for me."

What else can Yi say? He has two options. He can play on a front line with Andrew Bogut and Charlie Villanueva next season, or he can go back and play in China.

While I'm sure the Guangdong Tigers would love to have him back, I'm guessing that the Bucks will be able to offer a slightly larger signing bonus.

He'll be a Buck and he'll like it.

roidrunner
06-29-2007, 09:34 AM
i hope he plays because he reminds of a chinese version of Dirk. who we traded away. Lets just hope we do whatever it takes to keep him. but there still is a chance that he will ask for a trade. i just hope we dont follow though with it.

nbarnett56
06-29-2007, 10:11 AM
i hope he plays because he reminds of a chinese version of Dirk. who we traded away. Lets just hope we do whatever it takes to keep him. but there still is a chance that he will ask for a trade. i just hope we dont follow though with it.

But you also have to remember that European players back then were unknowns. It looked like the right move at the time to trade Dirk.

I don't think we'll trade him. From what I read on JSonline and CBSsportsline is that Yi said he will play for the bucks and is happy to be in the NBA. All this talk of playing in a big market seems to be coming from his handlers.

I'm actually pretty excited for the season now and I'm glad that Conley was taken by Memphis. I didn't want him plus it should better our chances of Mo returning.

roidrunner
06-29-2007, 10:25 AM
i think if we get Mo or Billups we will have a very good chance to make the playoffs. cause we need help at our guard position

nbarnett56
06-29-2007, 10:48 AM
i think if we get Mo or Billups we will have a very good chance to make the playoffs. cause we need help at our guard position

Pretty much everyone that needed a guard filled it in the draft. I'd rather keep Mo because he is younger and starting to enter his prime whereas Billups is getting older and is he a product of Detroits system?

roidrunner
06-29-2007, 01:37 PM
he could be a product, but still he has talent, and personally i would rather keep Mo. but if leaves we should go after billups also i like the SF from the bobcats Wallace.

nbarnett56
06-29-2007, 02:17 PM
he could be a product, but still he has talent, and personally i would rather keep Mo. but if leaves we should go after billups also i like the SF from the bobcats Wallace.

I agree with that. Though I think Mo has to be priority number one. This has been a really frantic 2 days now with all this Yi talk. Trade rumors are flying left and right....

princefielder28
06-29-2007, 05:40 PM
According to ESPN Yi has yet to report to Milwaukee and his camp is seeking a trade.

Boston
06-29-2007, 07:17 PM
According to ESPN Yi has yet to report to Milwaukee and his camp is seeking a trade.

Great pick!

princefielder28
06-29-2007, 07:44 PM
great article by the AP

http://greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070629/GPG02/70629182/1225

nbarnett56
07-01-2007, 06:16 PM
According to ESPN Yi has yet to report to Milwaukee and his camp is seeking a trade.

Its all assumptions about this trade talk IMO. Yi didn't come to Milwaukee because he's playing the Chinease basketball team.

GB12
07-03-2007, 02:19 AM
Wow, this surprised me. http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2990&action=1&question22303=90272&question22304=90274&question22305=90280&question22306=90282&question22307=90285&question22308=90289&question22311=90295&question22312=90303&question22313=90373&question22314=90381

8) Who will win Rookie of the Year?

43.6%Kevin Durant
16.5%Yi Jianlian
15.2%Greg Oden
5.1%Mike Conley Jr.
4.4%Corey Brewer
3.8%Al Horford
3.2%Other
2.8%Joakim Noah
1.8%Brandan Wright
1.5%Jeff Green
1.4%Al Thornton
0.9%Nick Young

KCJ58
07-03-2007, 02:37 AM
Wow, this surprised me. http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2990&action=1&question22303=90272&question22304=90274&question22305=90280&question22306=90282&question22307=90285&question22308=90289&question22311=90295&question22312=90303&question22313=90373&question22314=90381

8) Who will win Rookie of the Year?

43.6%Kevin Durant
16.5%Yi Jianlian
15.2%Greg Oden
5.1%Mike Conley Jr.
4.4%Corey Brewer
3.8%Al Horford
3.2%Other
2.8%Joakim Noah
1.8%Brandan Wright
1.5%Jeff Green
1.4%Al Thornton
0.9%Nick Young

i say Joakim Noah ;)

Vince Lombardi
07-03-2007, 09:37 AM
Well this certainly is an interesting situation the Bucks have gotten themselves into. There are rumors that, if Yi absolutely refuses to give Milwaukee a chance, he may be traded to Golden State for Brandon Wright and several other players. We'll see......

GB12
07-03-2007, 12:41 PM
Well this certainly is an interesting situation the Bucks have gotten themselves into. There are rumors that, if Yi absolutely refuses to give Milwaukee a chance, he may be traded to Golden State for Brandon Wright and several other players. We'll see......
I doubt we trade him. I hope that we don't. Larry Harris drafted him, now he better stick with him. He was well aware of the situation coming into the draft. If we need to play a little hardball to get him to come to Milwaukee, then do it. We have the power in this relationship. The only other option he has is to stay in China for ever.

Jonathan_VIlma
07-03-2007, 12:47 PM
I think it was dumb for Milwaukee to draft him in the first place. They knew he doesn't want to play there. It'd be like if San Diego drafted Eli and kept him.

princefielder28
07-03-2007, 02:34 PM
I think it was dumb for Milwaukee to draft him in the first place. They knew he doesn't want to play there. It'd be like if San Diego drafted Eli and kept him.

If a player is drafted by a team he MUST go to that team. Players whining about where they want to go is B.S. Plus, it was a brilliant move by Larry Harris both from a team and economic standpoint so you can blame the guy for making the pick regardless of what the player felt.

nbarnett56
07-03-2007, 06:35 PM
This really sucks wtih all this B.S. thats surrounding him. From what I gather is that it seems like its his agents and the Chinease government trying to position him in a larger market. I honestly don't believe that its Yi's decision. Hopefully he remains a Buck but I'm getting tired off all this 'Yi doesn't want to be in Milwaukee' rants that are going on around the net/TV.

Sportsfan486
07-04-2007, 12:05 PM
This really sucks wtih all this B.S. thats surrounding him. From what I gather is that it seems like its his agents and the Chinease government trying to position him in a larger market. I honestly don't believe that its Yi's decision. Hopefully he remains a Buck but I'm getting tired off all this 'Yi doesn't want to be in Milwaukee' rants that are going on around the net/TV.

Yeah, I don't think it's really his call.. I think he just wants to play BBall and his agents are just worried about making him this ultra-superstar.

GB12
07-06-2007, 04:24 PM
Yi finally meeting with the Bucks. http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=2&date=7/6/2007&id=26024

nbarnett56
07-06-2007, 05:50 PM
Yi finally meeting with the Bucks. http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=2&date=7/6/2007&id=26024

Awesome! Hopefully Yi himself will make the decision to come to Milwaukee.

princefielder28
07-06-2007, 05:52 PM
Awesome! Hopefully Yi himself will make the decision to come to Milwaukee.

Hopefully his agent jumps on board b/c he's the problem in this

GB12
07-06-2007, 09:05 PM
In 28 minutes tonight Yi scored 23 points.

Vince Lombardi
07-08-2007, 01:39 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/08/yi.stern/index.html

The buzz around the Las Vegas Summer League on Saturday was that Bucks and top draft pick Yi Jianlian (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/4284) appeared to be inching closer to a marriage -- thanks in part to the possible intervention of David Stern.


"I've heard he wants to get this resolved," said one Eastern Conference GM who wished to remain anonymous. "I'm not sure what he can do exactly, but I do know he has ways of getting what he wants."


Hopefully this will get resolved soon. I know a lot of people are down on Yi, but I honestly don't think he's behind any of this, and would love to see him actually play for the Bucks.

princefielder28
07-08-2007, 03:48 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/07/08/yi.stern/index.html



Hopefully this will get resolved soon. I know a lot of people are down on Yi, but I honestly don't think he's behind any of this, and would love to see him actually play for the Bucks.

It's Yi's representatives and China that don't want him in milwaukee; it has nothing to do with Yi, and he will be a Buck some day soon

princefielder28
07-09-2007, 09:38 AM
Mo Williams has been in contract negotiations with the Miami Heat, and there is a possibility he may head to South Florida and join the squad. The Bucks need to really push to get him signed b/c after Mo the point guard class is rather weak, and the only option we have behind him would be rookie Ramon Sessions or Charlie Bell.

GB12
07-09-2007, 11:29 AM
Mo Williams has been in contract negotiations with the Miami Heat, and there is a possibility he may head to South Florida and join the squad. The Bucks need to really push to get him signed b/c after Mo the point guard class is rather weak, and the only option we have behind him would be rookie Ramon Sessions or Charlie Bell.
There's no excuse for not resigning him. Getting Mo in the first place was the best move that Larry Harris has made in his whole time as a GM, now he better keep him.

nbarnett56
07-09-2007, 12:00 PM
There's no excuse for not resigning him. Getting Mo in the first place was the best move that Larry Harris has made in his whole time as a GM, now he better keep him.

Its Mo's decision, not Larry Harris's. The only thing we can offer him is more money. He could just as easily take the MLE from the Heat because they are closer to getting a ring than the Bucks. Granted he would be passing up millions of dollars but its still an option for him.

Hopefully he does re-sign though because in the long run, this young group of players will probably have a better shot at a ring than the Heat.

GB12
07-09-2007, 12:11 PM
Its Mo's decision, not Larry Harris's. The only thing we can offer him is more money. He could just as easily take the MLE from the Heat because they are closer to getting a ring than the Bucks. Granted he would be passing up millions of dollars but its still an option for him.

Hopefully he does re-sign though because in the long run, this young group of players will probably have a better shot at a ring than the Heat.
True, I meant do everything in his power to keep Mo in Milwaukee. Obviously if Mo has no desire to stay here there's not much he can do. I'd hate to see him go though.

nbarnett56
07-10-2007, 10:35 AM
Sounds like its a 50/50 decision by Mo, according to the MJS. I'm affraid that if we lose him, we'll be forced to make a trade for a PG. Possibly using Yi.

princefielder28
07-10-2007, 11:58 AM
Sounds like its a 50/50 decision by Mo, according to the MJS. I'm affraid that if we lose him, we'll be forced to make a trade for a PG. Possibly using Yi.

We are not trading Yi. If we don't re-sign Mo then we'll probably move Charlie Bell to PG and sign someone like Mo Pete

nbarnett56
07-10-2007, 12:17 PM
We are not trading Yi. If we don't re-sign Mo then we'll probably move Charlie Bell to PG and sign someone like Mo Pete

Do you have inside info that we're not trading him? Harris said that he doesn't want to trade him, but if Mo goes we might get better offers that include a PG. Maybe Devin Harris and another player from the Mavs.

Bell? I wouldn't feel good having him be our starting PG for the entire season. I mean there is a reason why we traded for Earl Boykins.

princefielder28
07-10-2007, 12:21 PM
Do you have inside info that we're not trading him? Harris said that he doesn't want to trade him, but if Mo goes we might get better offers that include a PG. Maybe Devin Harris and another player from the Mavs.

Bell? I wouldn't feel good having him be our starting PG for the entire season. I mean there is a reason why we traded for Earl Boykins.

If Yi does not sign willing with Milwaukee then commissioner David Stern will step in and FORCE Yi to honor the drafting by Milwaukee.

As far as trading for Earl Boykins it was becuase they got a great deal from a Denver team that was clearing cap and Boykins was a better PG than Steve Blake. Plus during that time frame Michael Redd was battling injuries so they would not have been able to move Charlie to PG.

nbarnett56
07-10-2007, 12:24 PM
If Yi does not sign willing with Milwaukee then commissioner David Stern will step in and FORCE Yi to honor the drafting by Milwaukee.

As far as trading for Earl Boykins it was becuase they got a great deal from a Denver team that was clearing cap and Boykins was a better PG than Steve Blake. Plus during that time frame Michael Redd was battling injuries so they would not have been able to move Charlie to PG.

If you need a PG, your going to have to deal with the cards you have. Yi possible being one of them.

We traded for Boykins because Mo Williams went down and Steve Blake didn't fit our offense. If they had confidence in Bell, then why wasn't he the starter the rest of the way? Clearing cap was a bonus - which we didn't expect to get when we started the year. Bell is a role player and spot starter at best.

princefielder28
07-10-2007, 12:28 PM
If you need a PG, your going to have to deal with the cards you have. Yi possible being one of them.

We traded for Boykins because Mo Williams went down and Steve Blake didn't fit our offense. If they had confidence in Bell, then why wasn't he the starter the rest of the way? Clearing cap was a bonus - which we didn't expect to get when we started the year. Bell is a role player and spot starter at best.

We will not move a young big man with huge potential like Yi Jianlian for a PG. You keep the bigs that you have especially when they are as talented as Yi. I could see us signing Derek Fisher as a potential option b/c he was release from the Jazz due to his daughter's health problems and I know that the city of Milwaukee has some great specialist there and it could be a possible destination for Fisher.

nbarnett56
07-10-2007, 12:34 PM
We will not move a young big man with huge potential like Yi Jianlian for a PG. You keep the bigs that you have especially when they are as talented as Yi. I could see us signing Derek Fisher as a potential option b/c he was release from the Jazz due to his daughter's health problems and I know that the city of Milwaukee has some great specialist there and it could be a possible destination for Fisher.

You never know what will happen with Yi. Derek Fisher is moving his family to the best care center to treat his daughter. That won't be in Milwaukee. Most likely on the west coast. Who knows if he'll even play this year?

princefielder28
07-10-2007, 12:37 PM
You never know what will happen with Yi. Derek Fisher is moving his family to the best care center to treat his daughter. That won't be in Milwaukee. Most likely on the west coast. Who knows if he'll even play this year?

Milwaukee has the Children's Hospital and many other neurological specialist that are nationally respect so don't be overly suprised if he does come.

nbarnett56
07-10-2007, 12:45 PM
Milwaukee has the Children's Hospital and many other neurological specialist that are nationally respect so don't be overly suprised if he does come.

lol, ok I won't.

nbarnett56
07-10-2007, 06:09 PM
Now this is just awesome news:


Yi Jianlian has not said yet if he will join the Milwaukee Bucks, after the team selected him with the sixth overall pick in the June 28 draft.

But Chinese fans are telling him to sign with the Bucks. Results of an online poll in the China Daily showed 68% of 9,000 respondents want Yi to play for Milwaukee.

Also quoted in the newspaper was former national team coach Qian Chenghai, according to an Associated Press report.

"Fegan will hamper Yi's future," the coach said of Los Angeles-based agent Dan Fegan. "I don't think Yi refused to join the Bucks; it is Fegan who doesn't want him to join.

"We don't want to see Yi destroy his reputation in the NBA and return to the Chinese Basketball Association. That's horrible."

Yi and the Chinese national team were to play against the New York Knicks squad tonight in the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas. Team China went 1-2 in its first three games in summer league play, with Yi sinking the winning bank shot in a game Sunday against Cleveland.

The Bucks have invited Yi to visit Milwaukee after the Chinese team's summer league schedule ends. General manager Larry Harris hand-delivered a letter from Bucks owner Herb Kohl to the 7-foot power forward in a one-hour meeting on Thursday in Las Vegas.

princefielder28
07-11-2007, 09:06 AM
Like we've known all along it's the agent and not Yi himself

nbarnett56
07-12-2007, 09:13 AM
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel is reporting that point guard Mo Williams is leaning toward re-signing with the Bucks on a four- or five-year deal. Williams appears to be torn about whether to take the money from the Bucks, or give up some duckets to join forces with Shaq and D-Wade in Miami. Obviously, the route through Miami probably gives him a better shot at a title, but all indications are that he will take the money and run the Bucks.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=632100

Vince Lombardi
07-12-2007, 12:32 PM
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel is reporting that point guard Mo Williams is leaning toward re-signing with the Bucks on a four- or five-year deal.

God I hope so. It would really be the best move for him. Miami's old and the window is very small, the Bucks on the otherhand, could really build something and keep it going for a while.

nbarnett56
07-13-2007, 06:28 PM
Day-long negotiations pushed the Milwaukee Bucks closer to a deal with free agent point guard Mo Williams, but no final agreement was reached today.

Sources indicated the Bucks have offered a six-year, $51 million deal to Williams, increasing their offer from a five-year, $42 million contract.

"We're making good progress," Bucks general manager Larry Harris said. "Negotiations are progressing well, and we're optimistic. We still have some details to work out."

The unrestricted free agent has received a five-year offer worth about $31 million from the Miami Heat, the maximum Miami is able to spend since it exceeds the league's salary cap. Several other teams also have expressed interest in Williams, including the New York Knicks and Indiana Pacers, but would need a sign-and-trade deal to acquire him.

If the 6-foot-1 Williams does sign with the Bucks, it will solidify the team's backcourt situation. It would give Milwaukee a high-octane combination featuring Williams and shooting guard Michael Redd, the fifth-leading scorer in the league last season.

"We talked and some progress was made," said Williams' agent, Mark Bartelstein, regarding his conversations with the Bucks. "We're working toward some things."

Bartelstein said he hoped a final resolution would come early next week.

Last weekend, Williams met with Miami President and coach Pat Riley and heard the Heat's pitch.

Williams met one-on-one with Bucks owner Herb Kohl on Monday to hear Milwaukee's offer, and Williams spent Tuesday consulting with Bartelstein. Negotiations continued on Wednesday and Thursday, as both the Bucks and Heat waited to hear a final decision from Williams.

It appeared the Bucks and Williams were much closer to an agreement after Friday's talks.

Williams shot 44.6% from the field and 85.5% from the free throw line last season and averaged career highs with 17.1 points, 4.8 rebounds and 6.1 assists in 68 games. He took over as the team's starting point guard last season after the departure of T.J. Ford in a June 2006 trade to Toronto.

The Bucks originally signed Williams to a three-year deal in the summer of 2004, after his rookie year with the Utah Jazz. Williams made less than $2 million last season, in the final year of that contract.

Williams is the top free-agent point guard remaining on the market. On Wednesday, Detroit's Chauncey Billups signed a four-year, $46 million guaranteed deal, averaging 11.5 million per year, with a fifth year at a team option for $14 million.

princefielder28
07-13-2007, 06:31 PM
Good job Larry Harris!

GB12
07-14-2007, 01:08 PM
Mo is signed! 6 years $52mil.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2936550

Vince Lombardi
07-14-2007, 02:14 PM
Mo is signed! 6 years $52mil.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2936550

Very nice! Now they can focus on just adding a few role players and getting Yi signed.

princefielder28
07-14-2007, 03:37 PM
Mo is signed! 6 years $52mil.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2936550

Great to have him still here

nbarnett56
07-16-2007, 10:05 AM
Ersan Ilyasova has reportedly agreed to a two-year, $5 million deal with Barcelona in Spain. Bucks GM Larry Harris confirmed Ilyasova was leaving the Bucks, but wasn't sure which European team he would join. "Ersan went to Europe,'' Harris said. "I wasn't told the team he was going to.'' The Bucks are still trying to re-sign Charlie Bell and Brian Skinner, have re-signed Mo Williams, are close to signing Desmond Mason and are still trying to get Yi Jianlian to visit Milwaukee. While Ilyasova had some nice potential, the loss shouldn't impact the Bucks too badly.

nbarnett56
07-16-2007, 10:05 AM
Desmond Mason, who played two-plus seasons in Milwaukee before being traded to New Orleans two years ago, is close to signing a multi-year contract with the Bucks. The amount of the contract is unknown. Bucks general manager Larry Harris acknowledged his talks with Roger Montgomery, Mason's agent, were positive. "It sounds like a broken record, but I'm optimistic,'' Harris said in a telephone interview Sunday night. "We had some great discussions today.'' Mason had his best years in Milwaukee, and it's possible he could see a return to form with the Bucks. However, if Bobby Simmons comes back healthy this season, the two would likely split minutes at small forward.

princefielder28
07-16-2007, 11:01 AM
Desmond Mason, who played two-plus seasons in Milwaukee before being traded to New Orleans two years ago, is close to signing a multi-year contract with the Bucks. The amount of the contract is unknown. Bucks general manager Larry Harris acknowledged his talks with Roger Montgomery, Mason's agent, were positive. "It sounds like a broken record, but I'm optimistic,'' Harris said in a telephone interview Sunday night. "We had some great discussions today.'' Mason had his best years in Milwaukee, and it's possible he could see a return to form with the Bucks. However, if Bobby Simmons comes back healthy this season, the two would likely split minutes at small forward.

Desmond Mason is one of my favorite Bucks ever so it's great to see him coming back. As far as Ersan Ilysova, I would have like to see what type of player he would've developed into.

nbarnett56
07-16-2007, 11:07 AM
Desmond Mason is one of my favorite Bucks ever so it's great to see him coming back. As far as Ersan Ilysova, I would have like to see what type of player he would've developed into.

Ersan showed some potential last year but he wasn't very athletic. Thats what I always liked about Mason. If/when Mason/Yi sign we should be pretty deep everywhere except PG. Everything that I've read didn't point to many teams being interested in Charlie Bell so if he does re-sign I think we can possibly make some noise this year.

princefielder28
07-16-2007, 11:08 AM
Ersan showed some potential last year but he wasn't very athletic. Thats what I always liked about Mason. If/when Mason/Yi sign we should be pretty deep everywhere except PG. Everything that I've read didn't point to many teams being interested in Charlie Bell so if he does re-sign I think we can possibly make some noise this year.

Ramon Sessions was drafted and I think he'll probably see some time at PG

nbarnett56
07-16-2007, 11:18 AM
Ramon Sessions was drafted and I think he'll probably see some time at PG

I don't see him playing that much though. I think he was more of an insurance policy if Mo did sign elsewhere. I'd say look out for David Noel more than anything.

princefielder28
07-16-2007, 11:25 AM
I don't see him playing that much though. I think he was more of an insurance policy if Mo did sign elsewhere. I'd say look out for David Noel more than anything.

Noel won't get too much playing time if Yi, Villanueva, Simmons, and Mason are all on the roster

nbarnett56
07-16-2007, 11:30 AM
Noel won't get too much playing time if Yi, Villanueva, Simmons, and Mason are all on the roster

I think he will. His defense is better then those guys plus he really showed some offensive promise last season and in the summer league this year. Yi and Villy play power forward while Mason, Simmons, and Noel are small forwards but Mason also has the ability to pay some guard.

Simmons was most effective off the bench when won the most improved player award. If Bell doesn't re-sign Mason could see some time at guard. We might do like we did last year and have a big/small lineup on the court.

GB12
07-16-2007, 10:50 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=2&date=7/16/2007&id=26470 Mason seems pretty close. I'd love for him to come back to Milwaukee. He was decent and fun to watch, plus it helps the pain of the Magloire trade a bit.

I actually signed Desmond in the NBA Forum Mock. I didn't think he would really do it in real life too.

Sportsfan486
07-17-2007, 11:39 AM
YAY. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2939260

Man, wtf? "Oh, no no, it's not about the chinese population.. we just think there are other teams he probably possibly will get more minutes on."

nbarnett56
07-17-2007, 12:18 PM
YAY. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2939260

Man, wtf? "Oh, no no, it's not about the chinese population.. we just think there are other teams he probably possibly will get more minutes on."

Yeah I read that on JSonline earlier. It makes no sense! We needed help at PF yet they are affraid he won't get and playing time to develop? Hello, we aren't going to sit the 6th overall pick!

D-Unit
07-17-2007, 12:40 PM
You'll be forced to trade him now. Sucks cause at 6, you had to take him. Talk about a trap. As a Magic fan, this makes me laugh. It's a similar situation to Fran Vazquez. LOL! ...at least you guys can trade him since he's worth something.

GB12
07-17-2007, 01:03 PM
You'll be forced to trade him now. Sucks cause at 6, you had to take him. Talk about a trap. As a Magic fan, this makes me laugh. It's a similar situation to Fran Vazquez. LOL! ...at least you guys can trade him since he's worth something.

I hope Larry Harris sticks with his decission. Don't let Yi whine and ***** his way out of town, he knew what he was getting into before entering the draft now deal with it. They're just making up reasons now. He'd see plenty of playing time, and Milwaukee should be a good team. Had we not had all the injuries we probably would have made the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed.

nbarnett56
07-17-2007, 01:05 PM
You'll be forced to trade him now. Sucks cause at 6, you had to take him. Talk about a trap. As a Magic fan, this makes me laugh. It's a similar situation to Fran Vazquez. LOL! ...at least you guys can trade him since he's worth something.

I highly doubt that we trade him. For one, we don't need anyone in return. Our roster is pretty much set now that Mo Williams re-signed. Larry harris will play hardball and yet again call their bluff. Its alot different that Fran Vazquz because China wants him in the US. They, along with Nike, want to market him in time for the Olympics which are in China. We still hold all the cards so if he goes back to China, oh well, we are out of the #6 pick. We don't have to pay him so I don't view it as a huge loss - just that of a high draft pick - which we didn't neccessarly need.

Yi himself still hasn't said what he wants. Its not him making the decisions.

Boston
07-17-2007, 02:18 PM
I hope we piss off that "Chinese Club" as much as possible by not trading Yi

nbarnett56
07-17-2007, 02:23 PM
I hope we piss off that "Chinese Club" as much as possible by not trading Yi

Exactally. At this point I could care less about possibly losing the 6th overall pick. Stick to them and force their hand. Either play in Milwaukee or catch the red eye back to China.

umphrey
07-18-2007, 08:23 AM
I think it's stupid. No other player could do this without ridicule so why should he get an exemption because he is from China? When he entered the draft he knew that he could get picked by any team so if he didn't like that concept then he shouldn't have entered.

ccB
07-18-2007, 10:39 AM
I think it's stupid. No other player could do this without ridicule so why should he get an exemption because he is from China? When he entered the draft he knew that he could get picked by any team so if he didn't like that concept then he shouldn't have entered.

It has nothing to do with him being Chinese, all kinds of players from all kinds of places do this (see Steve Francis) Also saying losing the 6th overall pick is not a big deal is ridiculous, losing a pick anywhere in the lottery is a big deal. The Bucks are not a team thats going to do anything next year with or without Yi, but not having him would highly jeopardize their future and potential as a team.

nbarnett56
07-18-2007, 10:47 AM
It has nothing to do with him being Chinese, all kinds of players from all kinds of places do this (see Steve Francis) Also saying losing the 6th overall pick is not a big deal is ridiculous, losing a pick anywhere in the lottery is a big deal. The Bucks are not a team thats going to do anything next year with or without Yi, but not having him would highly jeopardize their future and potential as a team.

Actually its not a big deal. How many lottery picks actually live up to their promise? How many 1st round picks live up to their promise?

The Bucks are acutally a pretty good team but we were riddled with injuries last season which is why we were in the lottery. Now we have guys such as Redd, Williams, Villanueva, Simmons, and Bogut healthy again. Its funny because thats our starting lineup.

jbooshey
07-18-2007, 10:47 AM
So do we not have Patterson anymore?

nbarnett56
07-18-2007, 10:48 AM
Chinese media reports quoted a Guangdong Tigers' official refuting Tuesday's story that Yi Jianlian would never play for the Bucks. Guangdong vice chairman Liu Hong Xinjiang said Tuesday night that Yi could eventually wear a Bucks' uniform. Confusion continues to surround Yi and the Bucks are probably wishing they would have just taken another player at this point. Tigers chief Chen Haitao was quoted earlier in Tuesday's Beijing News as saying Yi would "definitely not" play for the Bucks next season, but Xiajiang said that story was untrue.

Just goes to show you that the media is blowing every little thing out of proportain...

nbarnett56
07-18-2007, 10:50 AM
So do we not have Patterson anymore?

He is a free agent. I highlt doubt that we'll re-sign him now that we re-signed Mo Williams and are close to signing Desmond Mason. Patterson and Mason play the same small forward position. I'm sure going to miss him though. Through all these injuries he made it at least feasible to watch the Bucks play. He put up alot of career numbers and his defense will be missed.

Vince Lombardi
07-18-2007, 07:01 PM
It's a shame really, the Chinese want nothing more than to develop their players and boost their reputation on the world basketball scene, especially in the US. Unfortunately with the approach they've taken with Yi, they're creating a backlash against China and taking a huge hit. If Yi is the caliber of player people think he is, then it shouldn't matter what market he's in because he'll get the recognition. Look at Lebron who plays in Cleveland and is one of the biggest superstars in the NBA. If the play is there, the marketing opportunities will follow. This whole situation is really starting to piss me off.

ccB
07-18-2007, 07:12 PM
Actually its not a big deal. How many lottery picks actually live up to their promise? How many 1st round picks live up to their promise?

The Bucks are acutally a pretty good team but we were riddled with injuries last season which is why we were in the lottery. Now we have guys such as Redd, Williams, Villanueva, Simmons, and Bogut healthy again. Its funny because thats our starting lineup.

Even with that line up, its not like your going to make any noise in the playoffs this year, or even make the playoffs this year for that matter. If most first round picks dont live up to their potential than where do the good NBA players come from? Surely all of them werent undrafted or drafted in the 2nd round. Just face it, if Yi doesnt make it into a bucks uniform your front office failed and your franchise will suffer because of it.

Vince Lombardi
07-18-2007, 07:31 PM
Even with that line up, its not like your going to make any noise in the playoffs this year, or even make the playoffs this year for that matter. If most first round picks dont live up to their potential than where do the good NBA players come from? Surely all of them werent undrafted or drafted in the 2nd round. Just face it, if Yi doesnt make it into a bucks uniform your front office failed and your franchise will suffer because of it.

I like how you state your opinion as if it's a fact. :rolleyes: The Bucks may not be an elite team, but there's no reason they shouldn't be able to make a push at the playoffs with that roster (if they stay healthy), especially in the weaker Eastern conference.

As for Yi, he doesn't really have a choice in the matter. He either plays for the Bucks next year, doesn't play for anyone next year and then hopes he fairs better in the draft after a year off :rolleyes:, or he plays in China for the rest of his life while the Bucks continue to own his rights. If China's main concern is playing time and prepping for the olympics he certainly won't be taking a year off. If he wishes to ever play in the NBA, he goes through the Bucks.

GB12
07-18-2007, 07:33 PM
I like how you state your opinion as if it's a fact. :rolleyes: The Bucks may not be an elite team, but there's no reason they shouldn't be able to make a push at the playoffs with that roster (if they stay healthy), especially in the weaker Eastern conference.

As for Yi, he doesn't really have a choice in the matter. He either plays for the Bucks next year, doesn't play for anyone next year and then hopes he fairs better in the draft after a year off :rolleyes:, or he plays in China for the rest of his life while the Bucks continue to own his rights. If China's main concern is playing time and prepping for the olympics he certainly won't be taking a year off. If he wishes to ever play in the NBA, he goes through the Bucks.

Actually he can't even do that. The Bucks own his rights if he comes to the NBA.

princefielder28
07-18-2007, 07:47 PM
Actually he can't even do that. The Bucks own his rights if he comes to the NBA.

I know the NBA can't do it, but they should ban his a$$ if he denies coming to Milwaukee.

ccB
07-18-2007, 09:12 PM
I like how you state your opinion as if it's a fact. :rolleyes: The Bucks may not be an elite team, but there's no reason they shouldn't be able to make a push at the playoffs with that roster (if they stay healthy), especially in the weaker Eastern conference.

As for Yi, he doesn't really have a choice in the matter. He either plays for the Bucks next year, doesn't play for anyone next year and then hopes he fairs better in the draft after a year off :rolleyes:, or he plays in China for the rest of his life while the Bucks continue to own his rights. If China's main concern is playing time and prepping for the olympics he certainly won't be taking a year off. If he wishes to ever play in the NBA, he goes through the Bucks.

This is an internet forum, which consists of mostly opinions. So what, I recite my opinion in a different manner than the rest of you, isnt that what seperates us all as posters and makes for a more interesting read. Perhaps if i was in here riding your teams nuts you wouldnt have a problem with what I am saying. Its called constructive criticism brah.

Your teams not an elite team in the eastern conference that is a fact. At best youd be maybe an 8th seed and youd be sent packing in the first round. I really dont see which of last years playoff teams Mil would knock off. A bunch of eastern conference teams upgraded this year ( NY, ORL, CHA, etc) and you guys havent upgraded at all especially if Yi is not playing. Just face it guy. Sure anythings possible, hell the bucks could theoretically win the championship (crazier things have happened) But its HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY unlikely. They choose to take the risk on Yi and so far it seems like its biting them in the ass, IMO they should have went with Brewer who is more a sure thing.

Boston
07-18-2007, 09:16 PM
Somebody needs to send a kid from Disney Channel to show Yi and his agents what it means to play for fun, or some happy theme like that...

ccB
07-18-2007, 09:31 PM
I can see why Yi is bummed about playing in Millwaukee with the language barrier and all, but that should just make him strive harder to learn english.

nbarnett56
07-19-2007, 08:59 AM
Even with that line up, its not like your going to make any noise in the playoffs this year, or even make the playoffs this year for that matter. If most first round picks dont live up to their potential than where do the good NBA players come from? Surely all of them werent undrafted or drafted in the 2nd round. Just face it, if Yi doesnt make it into a bucks uniform your front office failed and your franchise will suffer because of it.

How do you know? Nobody has seen how ALL these guys perform together since they all suffered injuries throughout the season. Bobby Simmons even missed the entire season. Its the Eastern Conference so anything can happen and its a bit foolish to count anybody out at this point. Look around, the NBA isn't made up of just 1st round picks. Its pretty much 50/50 of 1st round picks vs 2nd rounder picks and undrafted's. How many lottery picks each year live up to their billing?

Yi will be a Buck, guaranteed.

ccB
07-19-2007, 10:10 AM
How do you know? Nobody has seen how ALL these guys perform together since they all suffered injuries throughout the season. Bobby Simmons even missed the entire season. Its the Eastern Conference so anything can happen and its a bit foolish to count anybody out at this point. Look around, the NBA isn't made up of just 1st round picks. Its pretty much 50/50 of 1st round picks vs 2nd rounder picks and undrafted's. How many lottery picks each year live up to their billing?

Yi will be a Buck, guaranteed.

Look up about 2 posts, I said anythings possible but highly unlikely. You have made no improvement from last year other than players returning from injury. A lot of Eastern conference teams made great improvements. Im sorry I dont feel your beloved Bucks will do anything next year, I really hope I am wrong for the sake of your feelings little guy. If I was ranking the eastern conference teams Id rank the Bucks in the slightly higher than a team like the Hawks and around the same place as a team like the Bobcats. Theres a lot of promise and potential there but not enough to do anything next year.

nbarnett56
07-19-2007, 10:35 AM
Look up about 2 posts, I said anythings possible but highly unlikely. You have made no improvement from last year other than players returning from injury. A lot of Eastern conference teams made great improvements. Im sorry I dont feel your beloved Bucks will do anything next year, I really hope I am wrong for the sake of your feelings little guy. If I was ranking the eastern conference teams Id rank the Bucks in the slightly higher than a team like the Hawks and around the same place as a team like the Bobcats. Theres a lot of promise and potential there but not enough to do anything next year.

I CANNOT POST IN A INTELLIGENT MANNER THEREFOR A MODERATOR HAD TO DELETE MY POST THANK YOU!

ccB
07-19-2007, 10:40 AM
Your simply making as assumption. The Bucks were billed as contenders last season when they traded for Villanueva. Injuries hit the team yet they finished with I believe the best record in the NBA in the month of December. I could care less where YOU rank them. You don't watch the Bucks, therefore I could give a **** what you think.

Little guy? Grow up. Funny how a moderator becomes a troll on these boards.

How is stating my opinion being a troll? A troll is someone who posts just to get a reaction, I am posting to share my opinion with the world. There is no rule that says you have to agree with every thread created, what kind of sense would that make?


Also making the assumption that I dont watch the Bucks is silly, I am a subscriber to NBA league pass and during the basketball season I make it a point to watch games from ALL teams.

Also the Bucks were billed as contenders for what exactly? I never heard anyone billing the Bucks as contenders last year. The funny thing is I actually like the Bucks alot. I am a big Mo Williams and Charlie V fan. I was one of the only people who thought the Ford for CV thread was a good deal because I knew what Mo had in store with the league (BABY JKIDD WITH THE TRIPPLE DOUBLES!)

nbarnett56
07-19-2007, 10:45 AM
How is stating my opinion being a troll? A troll is someone who posts just to get a reaction, I am posting to share my opinion with the world. There is no rule that says you have to agree with every thread created, what kind of sense would that make?


Also making the assumption that I dont watch the Bucks is silly, I am a subscriber to NBA league pass and during the basketball season I make it a point to watch games from ALL teams.

As we are stating our opinions, yet you have to always come back saying we are wrong. Yet we are the ones following the team and watch the games. I highly doubt you watch all the games either. Unless you have absolutely no life, troll.

ccB
07-19-2007, 10:49 AM
As we are stating our opinions, yet you have to always come back saying we are wrong. Yet we are the ones following the team and watch the games. I highly doubt you watch all the games either. Unless you have absolutely no life, troll.

I didnt say I watched every game, watched enough to know what kind of teams the Bucks were. After they became depleted by injuries who would want to watch every game. Also whats the difference between you guys saying my opinions wrong and me saying your opinions wrong? So does that make you a troll for trying to incite a reaction from me? Its not like I came in here trashing anyone or your team. I came in to debate with you guys about your opinions. I didnt know this was "agree with what everyone says Countdown"

ccB
07-19-2007, 11:18 AM
I'd like to clear up my stance on the Bucks for all of you wonderful people.

In no way do I think the Bucks are a horrible team, they have wonderful potential and a good core group of players. I just think they have had a sub par offseason and you guys are getting over your heads a bit with your expectations for next year. Sometimes it takes an unbias viewpoint to bring fans down to earth. I didnt post in this thread to incite a flame war. I like posting in all the basketball threads because it is my favorite sport( well second favorite after MMA) I think it is very possible for a team like the Bucks to make the playoffs next year and surprise people (see Toronto Raptors ) but IMO not a fact, the Bucks will not be a playoff team next year. I could be completely wrong, it happens from time to time :)

In order for the Bucks to make it to that next level Bogut and Villanueva are going to have to get tougher inside. They are soft right now but I credit that to age. I never viewed CV as a true PF he just doesnt have that type of game but his lack of foot speed makes it difficult to play him at the 3 which IMO is where his skill set best translates. This team has all the potential in the world, I just feel at the moment the selection of Yi was a mistake. Why would anyone want a player who doesnt want to be there? It just doesnt make sense. If Yi does play it seems like its more of a 3 year rental and than he will book via FA when hopefully he has reached his potential. I think Corey Brewer would have been a great pick for the bucks, he could be an instant starter and SF and add some toughness and great defensive play to the team.

Vince Lombardi
07-19-2007, 12:21 PM
Actually he can't even do that. The Bucks own his rights if he comes to the NBA.

I could swear I saw somewhere that if he doesn't play for anybody at all next year then he will be eligible to enter the draft again. I could be wrong about that though, and I actually hope I am because that would put the leverage even more in the Bucks hands.

ccB
07-19-2007, 12:27 PM
I could swear I saw somewhere that if he doesn't play for anybody at all next year then he will be eligible to enter the draft again. I could be wrong about that though, and I actually hope I am because that would put the leverage even more in the Bucks hands.

I think you are wrong, otherwise Franz Vasquez would have entered this draft. The best he can do is play in Europe somewhere or back in Asia.

GB12
07-19-2007, 12:37 PM
Illyasova to play for Barcelona. http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=2&date=7/19/2007&id=26667

We do retain his NBA rights for when/if he comes back. I'm almost positive we have Yi's NBA rights aswell, no matter when he decides to come.

princefielder28
07-19-2007, 12:53 PM
CCB, it is not Yi who doesn't want to be here; it is his representation and country. He just wants to play basketball in the NBA, and there are people who follow him that will not allow that to be in Milwaukee.

princefielder28
07-22-2007, 09:11 PM
Desmond Mason will have his press conference tomorrow to be introduced as the newest member of the Milwaukee Bucks.

GB12
07-22-2007, 09:20 PM
Desmond Mason will have his press conference tomorrow to be introduced as the newest member of the Milwaukee Bucks.
Nice
http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=2&date=7/22/2007&id=26765

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/pmacareno/050108115318Desmond-Mason.jpg

mil_brew_fan
07-23-2007, 02:15 PM
The Bucks should bring back Damon Jones just to throw the ball up to D-Mas on fast breaks.

GB12
07-23-2007, 08:29 PM
The Bucks should bring back Damon Jones just to throw the ball up to D-Mas on fast breaks.

We have Mo to do that. They were only together for a short time, but they had a great connection.

mil_brew_fan
08-08-2007, 02:03 PM
The Bucks are pretty close to brining Charlie Bell back... If they can sign him, they'll be such a deep team, with or without Yi

princefielder28
08-24-2007, 10:26 AM
Michael Redd is playing very well with USA National Team. He had 17 points in game 1 and 22 points in Game 2.

Vince Lombardi
08-29-2007, 08:26 AM
Well Yi is finally signed, yay.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2995836

princefielder28
08-29-2007, 08:59 AM
Well Yi is finally signed, yay.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2995836

Props to Larry Harris on sticking with his firm stance and it paid off

SeanTaylorRIP
08-29-2007, 09:01 AM
Although you need to continue to build your relationship because Yi's management says he fully intends to leave the Bucks the second he can get out of his rookie contract.

GB12
10-29-2007, 05:33 PM
Starting line up:
Mo Williams
Michael Redd
Desmond Mason
Yi Jianlian
Andrew Bogut

I like Mason starting, but I'd like Vilinueva starting at PF over Yi. They'll most likely get close to an even amount of minutes so I guess it really doesn't matter. That's a pretty good bench though, Charlie Bell, Charlie Vilinueva, Bobby Simmons, and Dan Gadzuric.

princefielder28
10-30-2007, 09:09 AM
I like the starting 5. With Villanueva, Bell, and Simmons coming off the bench the Bucks will draw some tough matchups for opposing teams bench players

princefielder28
10-31-2007, 10:16 PM
Bucks lose opener 102-83

Charlie V had only two points, Yi fouled out and Royal Ivey got some minutes.......FIRE LARRY HARRIS!!!!!

GB12
10-31-2007, 10:20 PM
Bucks lose opener 102-83

Charlie V had only two points, Yi fouled out and Royal Ivey got some minutes.......FIRE LARRY HARRIS!!!!!

Yi actually played alright. Bobby Simmons and Redd were on fire but the rest of the team, not so much. Oh and there's this thing called defense which we seem to know nothing about.

GB12
11-24-2007, 08:52 PM
Charles Woodson's courtside at the game. Hopefully he'll see them beat Dallas before he does on Thursday.

Big_Brother
11-28-2007, 01:48 AM
we lost at home, we fail.

princefielder28
11-28-2007, 09:20 AM
we lost at home, we fail.

The Bucks always seem to struggle against Philly regardless of what talent they have

EvilMonkey
02-20-2008, 02:27 PM
and another trade deadline approaches and no sign we're gonna do anything to try and help this team in the future...

princefielder28
02-20-2008, 03:38 PM
and another trade deadline approaches and no sign we're gonna do anything to try and help this team in the future...

The only two players who they could've moved were Charlie V and Mo Williams

EvilMonkey
02-20-2008, 06:07 PM
The only two players who they could've moved were Charlie V and Mo Williams

yeah and I probably would be willing to move them for nothing but expiring contracts if we get Simmons or Gadz in the deal

princefielder28
02-20-2008, 07:07 PM
yeah and I probably would be willing to move them for nothing but expiring contracts if we get Simmons or Gadz in the deal

no team would want Gadzuric's and Simmon's contracts; they are so overpaid, another reason showing how awful Larry Harris is.

princefielder28
02-21-2008, 10:51 AM
Sen. Herb Kohl shot down a trade yesterday which would've sent Charlie Bell, Dan Gadzuric, and Bobby Simmons to the Knicks for Zach Randolph and either Jared Jeffries or Fred Jones

EvilMonkey
02-21-2008, 11:42 AM
Sen. Herb Kohl shot down a trade yesterday which would've sent Charlie Bell, Dan Gadzuric, and Bobby Simmons to the Knicks for Zach Randolph and either Jared Jeffries or Fred Jones

i cant believe he wouldnt want that trade. In absolute shock after I read the story. We dump possibly our 3 worst contracts and get a good player in Randolph. I dont see why Kohl wouldnt want to get rid of those contracts...

we might be stuck with Randolph for 3 1/2 years but we can always trade him for nothing down the road. I can see why it would be rejected with Jeffries, who's got 4 years left at like 5 mil. per (just as bad as Gadz deal), but Fred Jones's contract is up after the year. I'd rather be stuck with 1 bad contract than 3

GB12
03-19-2008, 03:46 PM
I have completely gave up the Bucks and the NBA, but I'm glad to see that Harris got canned.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=730123

EvilMonkey
03-19-2008, 04:21 PM
now if only herbie kohl hires someone good and lets them actually do something instead of vetoing trades we should obviously take.

i hate saying it but Bill Simmons as our GM is looking better and better...

Vince Lombardi
03-19-2008, 04:37 PM
i hate saying it but Bill Simmons as our GM is looking better and better...

I'm all for it, anybody has got to be better that Harris. :(

PackerLegend
03-19-2008, 06:45 PM
The Bucks are awful as usually..... sigh, when was the last time the Bucks did anything?

princefielder28
03-19-2008, 07:19 PM
This is the first step in the right direction and step two will include the removal of coach Larry Krystkowiak.

roidrunner
03-19-2008, 10:42 PM
lets just gut the front office.

EvilMonkey
03-20-2008, 09:23 AM
lets just gut the front office.

that's probably the best way to go. Ideally we could get Kohl to sell the team right away too but that aint happening. We gotta just start over and gut everything, a lot of the team included.

princefielder28
04-11-2008, 12:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3341664

John Hammond is the Bucks new GM

EvilMonkey
04-11-2008, 12:54 PM
really excited to finally bring someone from outside of this mess known as an organization rather than just plugging in more guys from within. Should be a great move and hopefully we can turn it around soon.

Now we just need to find a respectable coach......

princefielder28
04-11-2008, 12:56 PM
really excited to finally bring someone from outside of this mess known as an organization rather than just plugging in more guys from within. Should be a great move and hopefully we can turn it around soon.

Now we just need to find a respectable coach......

As the link says Rick Carlisle is the leading candidate

roidrunner
04-11-2008, 12:59 PM
i like the hire, hopefully he can change the team up, we need an outside person, and i also like the idea of carlise. we need to drastically shake up the team. this might be what we need. i expect us to try and trade up and get a great player. it would not surprise me if we traded Yi. who is basically gone after this year anyway

EvilMonkey
04-11-2008, 01:13 PM
i like the hire, hopefully he can change the team up, we need an outside person, and i also like the idea of carlise. we need to drastically shake up the team. this might be what we need. i expect us to try and trade up and get a great player. it would not surprise me if we traded Yi. who is basically gone after this year anyway

not saying i disagree with trading Yi or anything, just curious why you say he is "basically gone after this year"?

princefielder28
04-11-2008, 01:16 PM
not saying i disagree with trading Yi or anything, just curious why you say he is "basically gone after this year"?

Yi wants to play in a more diverse and larger market

roidrunner
04-11-2008, 01:17 PM
yea he has openly said after his rookie contract he is gone. so minus well get something for him.

princefielder28
04-11-2008, 01:29 PM
For the future....

-Michael Redd is under contract through 2010/11
-Bobby Simmons has two years remaining...he'll definitely be a piece they try and trade
-Maurice Williams is under contract through 2012/13...think he's on his way out too; not a true point guard
-Desmond Mason is done after next season
-Dan Gadzuric is under contract through 2010/11...try and trade him too
-Andrew Bogut has a qualifying offer coming up after next season and I expect Hammonds to lock him up long term
-Charlie Bell is under contract through 2011/12...think he'll be here next season but not sure
-Yi Jianlian is under contract through 2010/11 with qualifying offer coming up in 2011/12...I'm sure Hammonds will talk to him about his committment to Milwaukee; he's a toss up
-Charlie Villanueva has a qualifying offer after next season...another player I expect them to lock up long term
-Ramon Sessions will be a life long backup whether it's Milwaukee is the question.

roidrunner
04-11-2008, 01:31 PM
the question now is this a complete rebuild or just a reloading, if it is a rebuild then no one is really safe. if it is a reload. i could see williams, yi, and simmons being traded

princefielder28
04-11-2008, 01:53 PM
the question now is this a complete rebuild or just a reloading, if it is a rebuild then no one is really safe. if it is a reload. i could see williams, yi, and simmons being traded

I'm gonna guess that it'll be a little bit of both if you know what i mean. He's gonna keep players like Redd, Bogut, maybe Yi, and Villanueva and with the lottery pick this year there's a chance to add another contributor. I think Hammond is going to want to put his own stamp on this team and whether it's through rebuilding or retooling has yet to be determined

roidrunner
04-11-2008, 01:55 PM
i think a rebuilding would be more effective. but i am hesitant about destroying the team. but this will be a good draft class to do it.

EvilMonkey
04-11-2008, 02:16 PM
yea he has openly said after his rookie contract he is gone. so minus well get something for him.

ok, i misunderstood you a bit i think. I thought you were saying after this year as in the year that'll be done in a couple weeks, he was gonna be gone, not when his contract runs up.

roidrunner
04-11-2008, 02:19 PM
its all good. i like the idea of trading out player for either young potential players or picks. cause something needs to get fixed with this team.

EvilMonkey
04-14-2008, 11:15 PM
lol, what a dumb game tonight was. Havent watched a bucks game in a few weeks but kinda wish i woulda seen tonight, had to be somewhat exciting with all the points flying around. Nothing like a 20 point, 8 board, 24 assist performance from Ramon Sessions in a blowout loss.

princefielder28
04-15-2008, 09:53 AM
lol, what a dumb game tonight was. Havent watched a bucks game in a few weeks but kinda wish i woulda seen tonight, had to be somewhat exciting with all the points flying around. Nothing like a 20 point, 8 board, 24 assist performance from Ramon Sessions in a blowout loss.

Sessions is a TRUE PG and that is what the team needs...Mo Williams, IMO, is on his way out of town

princefielder28
04-16-2008, 09:42 PM
Ramon Sessions with another big night

25 points, 14 assists, 7 rebounds

roidrunner
04-16-2008, 11:21 PM
where did this guy come from cause i have not heard from him all year.

princefielder28
04-16-2008, 11:22 PM
where did this guy come from cause i have not heard from him all year.

rookie from Nevada

roidrunner
04-16-2008, 11:26 PM
nice, i approve so far might become a building block

princefielder28
04-16-2008, 11:27 PM
nice, i approve so far might become a building block

I will be very suprised if he is not the starting PG next year

princefielder28
04-17-2008, 12:34 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3351403

Krystkowiak officially fired

roidrunner
04-17-2008, 12:35 PM
thank god, now lets go out and find a new good caoch

princefielder28
04-21-2008, 10:16 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3356713

Scott Skiles to be named the Bucks new head coach

EvilMonkey
04-21-2008, 10:26 AM
Dont know how to feel about it. Would have rather gotten Carlilse but Skiles has experience and seemed like a decent coach when I used to watch the Bulls. That's a lot better than what we've had here recently.

princefielder28
04-21-2008, 10:41 AM
Dont know how to feel about it. Would have rather gotten Carlilse but Skiles has experience and seemed like a decent coach when I used to watch the Bulls. That's a lot better than what we've had here recently.

Skiles is a good hire and he should be able to light a fire under these players' asses and get them going.

There was also an article about Michael Redd and his play this year in the Journal-Sentinel and I believe he is done as a Milwaukee Buck. He's work ethic has gone down and he isn't the same player that we threw 90 million at. The team, with new managment and a new coach, need a new face of the franchise and hopefully that'll happen with us getting one of the first two picks in the upcoming draft.

roidrunner
04-21-2008, 12:34 PM
so it looks like a fire sale might happen, and no one is truly safe, should be interesting to watch

princefielder28
04-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Skiles' deal is four years, fully guaranteed

roidrunner
04-21-2008, 03:23 PM
i like the skiles hiring, should be interesting to watch.

Nitschke-Hawk
04-21-2008, 07:08 PM
Skiles adds a couple big things. Stability and fire. Good hire for you. I still don't know wtf happened in Chicago...