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ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 05:47 AM
Second round done but awaiting some editing too. Some shock picks and reaches but hopefully some of the positional needs are pretty good. Have a look and complain away!

http://v2journal.com/2013-mock-draft-round-1.html

Minijosh
01-04-2013, 11:01 AM
Well done, I enjoyed reading it. Most picks were different from what we have been seeing in most mocks, which was refreshing. There were a few picks that I disagreed with the team/player fit, but that's typical. I also was surprised by the amount of WR's you had in the 1st rd. I look forward to rd 2!

thebow305
01-04-2013, 11:44 AM
Allen works for me!

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 12:12 PM
Well done, I enjoyed reading it. Most picks were different from what we have been seeing in most mocks, which was refreshing. There were a few picks that I disagreed with the team/player fit, but that's typical. I also was surprised by the amount of WR's you had in the 1st rd. I look forward to rd 2!

thanks! I did go pretty top heavy on receivers and cornerbacks now that I think about it. I'll try to get round 2 up asap but its not my site so have to wait until someone else publishes it

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 12:13 PM
Allen works for me!

Glad you think so, I think an up and coming team like the Phins should see this as a better option than adding a big name wr in free agency.

YotoJets007
01-04-2013, 12:41 PM
thank you for listening me. lol. Anyways, Mike Glennon going to Jets is unpopular. Alone first round pick itself is probably a bad pick but Jets will need a good entire draft to weigh in the balance.

Lil Quip
01-04-2013, 12:41 PM
Like Ansah to the Pats. Having a three man rotation of Jones Ansah and Nink will be awesome for years. Or push Nink to OLB.

If he declares, I could see Hopkins where you have them mocked.

I don't think Te'o will fall that far ever. MLB is a devalued position, so they fall. Yet in the middle of the draft, they become BPA to such a large extent that someone will pull the trigger. With more high end talent, Keuchly went nine.

zachsaints52
01-04-2013, 12:45 PM
I love the Dion pick.

shylo3716
01-04-2013, 12:48 PM
You might as well gave us Jonathan Banks at #4 to Philly.

coordinator0
01-04-2013, 12:57 PM
Bad for Baltimore. Jones isn't worth a first round pick and they just took Gradkowski to take over for Birk.

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 01:07 PM
Bad for Baltimore. Jones isn't worth a first round pick and they just took Gradkowski to take over for Birk.

I'd feel very confident that Jones will be a first rounder. I said in my description of the pick that he can play across the entire line and that is value at its best. Really don't see a leader of a championship team who is that versatile and smart falling out of the first.

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 01:09 PM
Like Ansah to the Pats. Having a three man rotation of Jones Ansah and Nink will be awesome for years. Or push Nink to OLB.

If he declares, I could see Hopkins where you have them mocked.

I don't think Te'o will fall that far ever. MLB is a devalued position, so they fall. Yet in the middle of the draft, they become BPA to such a large extent that someone will pull the trigger. With more high end talent, Keuchly went nine.

I sort of agree but just feel that Te'o is so hyped its unreal. He lacks the speed to be a truly elite guy in the NFL. I see guys like Wagner, Bowman and Washington taken on day 2 in recent years and feel there is better value later

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 01:11 PM
thank you for listening me. lol. Anyways, Mike Glennon going to Jets is unpopular. Alone first round pick itself is probably a bad pick but Jets will need a good entire draft to weigh in the balance.

I like Glennon, not quite as much as Kiper haha but he is the best pure passer in the draft

killxswitch
01-04-2013, 01:20 PM
I'm surprised to see so many CBs and WRs where they are, surprised to see pass rushers last as long as they did, and surprised to see two interior linemen go in the first and NEITHER are named Chance Warmack.

I don't hate the Rhodes pick for the Colts. Rhodes and Vontae Davis playing together would be fun to watch. But I think they would take a pass rusher (Ansah, Montgomery, or Okafor) or Warmack before they went CB.

ChicagoBearsVet23
01-04-2013, 01:35 PM
Mathews isn't declaring. And there is no chance ever the Bears pass on Te'o.

Cigaro
01-04-2013, 01:47 PM
Good pick for the Panthers, but...

I doubt Star falls that far. He's viewed as one of the few elite prospects in this draft.

Barkley in the top ten, second quarterback taken? I know its a weak class, but I have a hard time believing that will happen. There are already the physical concerns, but when you add the bad senior year, it simply doesn't add up into top ten overall.

Chance Warmack not in the first at all, but Cooper and Jones are? Can't see this ever happening.

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 01:49 PM
I'm surprised to see so many CBs and WRs where they are, surprised to see pass rushers last as long as they did, and surprised to see two interior linemen go in the first and NEITHER are named Chance Warmack.

I don't hate the Rhodes pick for the Colts. Rhodes and Vontae Davis playing together would be fun to watch. But I think they would take a pass rusher (Ansah, Montgomery, or Okafor) or Warmack before they went CB.

The Warmack miss was my fault. I prefer Cooper and was going to give Warmack to the Colts or Packers. But for some reason thought I'd already gave him away

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 02:03 PM
Mathews isn't declaring. And there is no chance ever the Bears pass on Te'o.

I made the draft a week ago before he made his decision. Could just replace him with a guy like Eric Fisher I guess.

I think the Bears would have to pass on Te'o if a good o-line prospect is there, I've not seen a worse line in a long time

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 02:06 PM
Good pick for the Panthers, but...

I doubt Star falls that far. He's viewed as one of the few elite prospects in this draft.

Barkley in the top ten, second quarterback taken? I know its a weak class, but I have a hard time believing that will happen. There are already the physical concerns, but when you add the bad senior year, it simply doesn't add up into top ten overall.

Chance Warmack not in the first at all, but Cooper and Jones are? Can't see this ever happening.

Explained my mistake on Warmack above. Star probably won't fall that far but he is a lazy player and I don't like taking guys who take plays off quite that high. His stats should be so much better too considering his talent and his supposed pass rush ability doesn't show up on tape too much.

Barkley I'm not a fan of but I'm pretty sure he will be taken in the first round. Possible Wilson or Glennon could be taken over Barkley. I don't think the careers of Gabbert, Locker or Ponder added up to number 3, 8 and 12 overall but some teams just have a dire need for 'that guy'

coordinator0
01-04-2013, 02:21 PM
I'd feel very confident that Jones will be a first rounder. I said in my description of the pick that he can play across the entire line and that is value at its best. Really don't see a leader of a championship team who is that versatile and smart falling out of the first.

Jones can play every position on the line but he doesn't play any of those positions at a first round level. I think he's a solid second round pick. Regardless I doubt the Ravens go with an OL in the first couple of rounds unless they make some big changes (like moving Oher back to RT and Osemele to LG which leaves LT as a huge need).

Thecollegedropout
01-04-2013, 02:55 PM
Hate the pick for the Jets. We may need a QB but not Glennon. I can live with Tyler Wilson if we say traded down a little. Glennon does not impress me, he has the size but not the consistency or best reads/decision making.

OSUGiants17
01-04-2013, 03:08 PM
Literally ZERO chance the Giants would pass on Te'o. Terrible Giants pick

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 03:16 PM
Literally ZERO chance the Giants would pass on Te'o. Terrible Giants pick

Thats your opinion because you must like Te'o. Cooper can be one of the better guards in the league and Te'o won't be amongst the best lb's. Look at the way he plays and his measurables and then consider whether or not he will have similar success in the NFL. A guard like Cooper helps immediately, its been shown in recent years that good lb's can be found later. But if you want to take a hyped up lb with lacking speed and nfl coverage skills, it would be an option. But with guys like Ogletree, Skov, Minter etc still on the board you could do better. Getting a guard with the best pp bskills I've seen in ages then taking a Minter/Thomas/Skov/Reddick later presents much more value. Te'o is solid but has very limited upside

killxswitch
01-04-2013, 03:17 PM
The Warmack miss was my fault. I prefer Cooper and was going to give Warmack to the Colts or Packers. But for some reason thought I'd already gave him away

Gotcha. The Colts would take Warmack in a heartbeat, we need the interior OL help badly.

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 03:19 PM
Gotcha. The Colts would take Warmack in a heartbeat, we need the interior OL help badly.

true but there are some pretty good players like Long, Warford and Alvin Bailey who could help out inside in the later rounds if Warmack is gone

shylo3716
01-04-2013, 05:27 PM
Why is it you did not mock Banks to Philly since you have him going top 5?

ninerfan35
01-04-2013, 05:43 PM
Why is it you did not mock Banks to Philly since you have him going top 5?

Good point, the Eagles line was as bad as the Bears this year and they need help. I know Peters is among the best lt's when healthy but I can't remember the last time they played. Joeckel is around the same level as Kalil last year and it'd be great for the eagles if he could do as well. The Peters situation reminds me of some talks I had with my friend who is a colts fan. After Bob Sanders was coming off 2 serious injuries, he thought he would come back and I said they should draft TJ Ward. A few years later and their secondary is a weakspot. I'm not saying Peters won't be the same but I do doubt it and they could end up regretting passing on arguably one of the best pound for pound guys in the class.

shylo3716
01-05-2013, 12:40 PM
Are you going to post your second round?

ChicagoBearsVet23
01-05-2013, 12:51 PM
I made the draft a week ago before he made his decision. Could just replace him with a guy like Eric Fisher I guess.

I think the Bears would have to pass on Te'o if a good o-line prospect is there, I've not seen a worse line in a long time

Te'o > Fisher everyday of the week. We'll get oline help in the 2nd with Aboushi, Thomas, Warford, Long, or Pugh.

ninerfan35
01-05-2013, 02:25 PM
Are you going to post your second round?

I hope to really soon. Because Its on a site, I have to wait until they get around to adding images etc and publish it. I could just list the names but want to wait so it looks good