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Trogdor
01-18-2013, 08:36 PM
For all initial salary cap figures I used the compiled list in this thread:

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3249393&#post3249393

Initial figures PRIOR to making any cuts or signings puts us at $147,596,344 or $26.6 million over the cap. With that in mind I'll dive right in :)

FIXING THE PROBLEM

Step 1. Re-negotiate Miles Austin to an amenable amount.
*Note* Not a full restructure we cannot afford to push anymore bonus money to the end of the contract. He either takes a pay cut, which I predict, or he gets his papers. Approach Miles Austin and let him know he is a vital part of the team but not for his cap hit. Guarantee him money through 2014 in exchange for losing salary off the back of the contract.
New 2013 Cap number - $2,355,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $5,947,000

Step 2. Cut Doug Free: Designate Free as a June 1st cut
New 2013 Cap Number - $4,175,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $7,000,000

Step 3. Cut Jay Ratliff: After June 1st
Cowboys attempt to renegotiate (i.e. paycut) but Jay refuses. Combined with his lack of "team support" while injured - Eaton actually approached the organization to find out if he was suspended as he was not on the sidelines with his teammates and his blow up with Jerry it's hard to see him around at if a suitable replacement is found.
New 2013 Cap Number - $3,000,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $4,000,000

Step 4. Restructure Brandon Carr's Contract
Convert Carr's $14,300,000 2013 Salary to a $10,000,000 signing bonus, plus a $4,400,000 salary
New 2013 Cap Number - $8,900,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $7,400,000

Step 5. Negotiate a New 5-year Contract for Tony Romo
Get Romo to sign a new $85 million contract
Include a $25 million signing bonus, plus a $2.5 million first year salary
Include $40 million guaranteed (2nd year salary of $13.5 million guaranteed)
New 2013 Cap Number - $12,818,833
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $4,000,000

Step 6. Restructure Jason Witten's Contract
Convert Witten's $5.5 million salary to a 4.5 million signing bonus, plus a $1.1 million salary
New 2013 Cap Number - $4,500,000
2013 Cap Savings - $3,500,000

Step 7. Designate Josh Brent NFI (Non-Football-Illness)
Total 2013 Cap savings $575,000

Step 8. Restructure and extend DeMarcus Ware's contract
Convert Ware's 5.5 million salary to a $4 million signing bonus, plus a salary of $1.6 million
New 2013 Cap Number - $9,321,750
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $2,900,000

With these 8 steps, the Cowboys can reduce the 2013 salary cap charge to $112,274,344.


Additional cost cutting measures:

Cut Phillip Tanner
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $555,000

Cut Donavon Kemp
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $480,000

Cut Lawrence Vickers
New 2013 Cap Number - $100,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $1,100,000

Cut Dan Connor
New 2013 Cap Number - $1,350,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $1,650,000

Cut Marcus Spears: After June 1st
New 2013 Cap Number - $1,050,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $950,000

FINAL cap number prior to FA / Draft::::::: $107,539,344 ($13,360,656 in cap space) = Figure $6,000,000 for the rookie pool leaving $7360656 for free agency


FREE AGENCY

L.P. Ladouceur: Resign (~750,000 per year) - Best LS we've ever had. Period.
Sammie Hill (1,500,000 2013 cap hit) - 4-3 NT we'll need a hoss in the middle as all as our line is in desparate need of a little beef.
Ernie Sims: 1 year 750,000 - Veteran backup at LB.
Phil Costa: (715,000 2013 cap hit) - Depth and competition at center
Anthony Spencer: Resign (6 years - $38,000,000 (see Ahmad Brooks with more guaranteed and less incentives): 2013 Cap hit $3,000,000 - Creative cap work to give Dallas two agile, intelligent DEs to fit the Tampa-2. Will need to be creative for run defense however with two light ends.


Remaining Cap Space: $6,645,656

Whew - Checked all the boxes and came in with $645,656 under the cap including the incoming $6,000,000 rookie wage pool. Not bad.


DRAFT:
Cowboys TRADE the 18th pick in the NFL draft to the Bills/Jax/Philly in exchange for the 2nd (~40th) and 5th (~140) selections in the 2013 draft and their first round selection in the 2014 draft. (Almost carbon copy of the JP Losman trade in 2004).

2T)Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
Dallas is waifer thin at DE in the new 4-3 scheme even with Anthony Spencer retained. Hunt offers an EXTREMELY high ceiling and fully capable of wreaking havoc from any spot on the defensive line. Kiffin is going to get a strong voice in the draft room and a pressure player on the front 4 is likely to be the object of his affection.

2)Dallas Thomas, G/RT, Tennessee
Dallas waits less than a minute to walk the card up for a player of the same name Mr. Dallas Thomas, G/OT, Tennessee. Cowboys plan to kick him over to RG after he successfully transitioned from LT to LG during the 2012. He had no problems dealing with elite NFL prospects playing against the top DTs in the class from the SEC.

3)DJ Swearinger, FS, South Carolina
After missing out on Kenny Vaccaro in the first and watching Reid and Thomas taken off the board prior to their second selection in the 2nd round Dallas is ecstatic for landing Swearinger. A rangy yet physical safety capable of ball-hawking as well as delivering the bone jarring blows he is an EXCELLENT fit for Kiffin's incoming scheme.

4)David Bass, DE, Missouri Western
Raw but incredible athlete. Honestly would of loved him regardless of scheme (3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE). For as quick and fluid as he is at 265lbs he could be an absolute nightmare of passing downs.

5t)Zach Line, RB/FB/H-Back, SMU
Dallas nabs the slipping Zach Line who doesn't have an NFL position by modern convention. A quick interview with Jerry Jones reveals the 'Boys are interested in using him as as a power back/FB combo and utilizing his excellent hands and blitz protect. After the unsuccessful utilization of traditional lead-blocking FBs Line is much more athletic and adept to pass catching while still being no slouch in lead blocking and protection.

5)B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
Extremely quick and fast. Elite recovery speed. Undersized and projects to play inside at CB.

6)Kerwynn Williams, RB/KR, Utah State
Explosive, excellent lateral ability and balance, great hands, packed into a small frame. Obvious weakness lies with his diminutive frame however is a willing blocker.

Primary UDFA / Trade for 7th Rounder: Alex Carder, QB, Western Michigan
Carder will slip due to being injured the latter half of the season but he has all the tools to become an NFL starting QB. He's played through injury, team captain, and has a live arm. He has a knack for keeping plays alive by moving his feet but also has a reputation of forcing throws. Dallas takes him to groom as their, inactive, 3rd QB this season.

Primary UDFA: Ryan Griffin, TE, Connecticut
Projected to be the 4th TE and has a chance to make the 53 based on special teams play and ability to block. Griffin is an active and able blocker more committed seemingly than some of his UCONN teammates. Has the size and ability to be a large red zone target as well.


FINAL ROSTER:

OFFENSE (25)

QB (3)
Tony Romo
Kyle Orton
Alex Carder

RB (3)
DeMarco Murray
Lance Dunbar
Kerwynn Williams (KR/PR)

FB (1)
Zach Line (Power RB/FB/H-Back)

WR (5)
Dez Bryant
Miles Austin
Dwayne Harris
Cole Beasley
Danny Coale

TE (3)
Jason Witten
James Hanna
Ryan Griffin

OT (3)
Tyron Smith
Jermey Parnell
Darrion Weems

OG (4)
OG - Nate Livings
OG - Dallas Thomas (Will also backup OT)
OG - Mackenzy Bernadeau
OG - David Arkin

OC (3)
Ryan Cook
Kevin Kowalski
Phil Costa


DEFENSE (25)

DE (5)
DeMarcus Ware
Anthony Spencer
Margus Hunt
Tyrone Crawford
David Bass

DT (5)
Sammie Hill
Jason Hatcher
Sean Lissenmore
Ben Bass
Brian Price


LB (6)
Bruce Carter (WLB)
Sean Lee (MLB)
Alex Albright (SLB)
Kyle Wilbur (Backup to SLB)
Ernie Sims (Backup to MLB/WLB)
Caleb McSurdy

CB (5)
Brandon Carr
Morris Claiborne
Orlando Scandrick
B.W. Williams
Sterling Moore (Backup FS)

S (4)
Barry Church (SS)
Gerald Sensabaugh (FS)
DJ Swearinger (FS)
Matt Johnson (FS/SS)

ST (3)
PK - Dan Bailey
P - Chris Jones
LS - L.P. Ladouceur

Total (53)

Just about completed. Will polish and flesh out some of the draft picks and make it prettier but I'm beat. Numbers SHOULD be correct but after making last minute changes they be a tad off. I will check the math again at some point.

Thoughts?

primetime217
01-19-2013, 01:04 AM
I like your ideas and your vision. Just wondering where sensabaugh ended up in this scenario. I know he could be cut without taking much of a cap hit, but didn't see that in there and he is not on the final roster.

Trogdor
01-19-2013, 09:02 AM
I like your ideas and your vision. Just wondering where sensabaugh ended up in this scenario. I know he could be cut without taking much of a cap hit, but didn't see that in there and he is not on the final roster.

Good catch. I originally cut him for the $2,600,000 cap savings but in this scenario kept him. I will edit him back in. He will be competing with Church AND DJ for a starting safety role.

The cap number reflects him ON the team so I will cut Danny McCray to make room on the roster and reflect this on the final roster and cap number.

TheFinisher
01-19-2013, 09:49 AM
Well done sir.

I can dig this, Sammie Hill was someone I had in mind as well.. I'd love to add him to our rotation.

I'm not crazy about Hunt but he has some crazy triangle numbers, if anyone could get him to reach his potential its Marinelli.

Love Thomas and Swearinger picks :banana:

And stockpiling 1st rounders for future drafts is always a good thing, especially when that draft will have Clowney in it.

dsc1600
01-19-2013, 11:41 AM
I don't discount our need on the DL, but you've allocated significant resources to Spencer, who's been inconsistent and may be entering the downside of his career in a year or two, and also 2 of our 4 highest draft choices as well as some of our free cap space with Hill.

Then we've only addressed the OL with one pick and have the same situation at Center and an unproven guy at RT.

The cap analysis is tremendous, very helpful to see the impact of these moves. I love the Williams pick, if it lasts to rd 6, I'll be surprised, however I disagree with your focus this offseason, which has to be OL in my opinion.

Trogdor
01-19-2013, 12:15 PM
I don't discount our need on the DL, but you've allocated significant resources to Spencer, who's been inconsistent and may be entering the downside of his career in a year or two, and also 2 of our 4 highest draft choices as well as some of our free cap space with Hill.

Then we've only addressed the OL with one pick and have the same situation at Center and an unproven guy at RT.

The cap analysis is tremendous, very helpful to see the impact of these moves. I love the Williams pick, if it lasts to rd 6, I'll be surprised, however I disagree with your focus this offseason, which has to be OL in my opinion.

Thanks :) As far as the offensive line this time around I really tried to hone in on what I SEE Dallas doing in the offseason rather than what I want them to do. I personally think we need 2 high-mid picks spent on the interior line and a veteran swing tackle just in case Parnell struggles. I can honestly see Dallas keeping Free and attempting to have him take a paycut and in exchange we'll move money into a roster bonus in 2014 (meaning if he beats out Parnell and plays well he'll make the team in 2014).

As far as the end result we certainly put a heavy emphasis on the defensive line but without an attacking 4 man pass rush the planned Cover-2 scheme is going to fail miserably. You have to generate pressure with 4 down lineman or any good QB will pick the zones apart which is exactly why I see Dallas aiming to fix the defensive line while adding a significant piece on the oline and attempting to let them gel. Super limited on the cash side and I'll do another one of these after the Super Bowl that will in all likelihood have us releasing Sensy and keeping Free.

The cap situation for us isn't pretty and we are going to gimp one of the trenches no matter what this offseason. I certainly think you could make a few changes like swapping Bass for another one of his Shrine game participants, Terron Armstead, and then leaving Dallas Thomas to play solely at guard. I think Parnell was auditioning for the job when he was splitting time and given the performance reviews that the staff gave him stating that he did well and the lack of rumblings about restructuring/pay cut being in the mix for Free I think we'll be passing him the job. I did intend to sign a veteran swing but chose to bring back Phil Costa as he performed well prior to his unfortunate string of injuries.

D-Unit
01-19-2013, 05:26 PM
Well first things first, AWESOME job! Very well organized and easy to follow. Lot of credit to you for the restructuring portion. That's a bigger chunk to chew than I wanted to attempt. I couldn't even imagine what would be possible.

Not the biggest fan of letting Ratliff go, but I understand why you did it. I think I'm gonna try something different in my mock though.

As for the draft, you know any mock with us getting Swearinger gives me a big hard boner. LOL. Kerwin Williams is a good pick. I like him and I think he could make the team and provide an impact. Don't know much about Zach Line though.

Don't have a lot of time now, but I'll check it out more later. Once again, nice job dude!!!

CowboysBeastMode
01-19-2013, 08:36 PM
i liked what you did with the cap sad to see ratliff go but tough decisions have to me made and thought it was well organized and good plan up until your draft

i honestly dont see a team trading up to get mike glennon or geno smith or whoever but whatever its a mock draft but i have serious hate alot of the picks u made

1. i don't understand why we would pay spencer and draft height-weight-speed (HWS) guy at the same position. there is the old-saying....those who do not know their history are failed to repeat it. trading back and taking a HWS seems eerily similar to the 2009 brandon williams pick and on top that margus hunt is at least year and probably two from being a every down player, i just don't think it would make much sense to trade back and take a player who can't help you as a rookie unless its a qb.

2. dallas thomas did NOT make the successful transition to guard. tennessee moved him their to get the best 5 guys on the field but guard is not his best position. as vols fans and as someone who has watched alot film since week 16 on o-lineman, im telling you he's not a guard, in many short yardage situation he got pushed back and rag dolled b/c he doesn't have inline power to move big dt's in those situations. thomas is a finesse, zone-blocking tackle not a power guy at all in fact he's alot like parnell, just more experienced with a better pedigree

3. i have no issue with swearinger or bass (ima have to look him to get a better feel but all the scouting the reports have him as elite athlete with alot versality and upside not bad for the 4th round) but zach line and kerwynn williams. im not big on fullbacks that can't block and demarco murray is power back who like to play behind a fullback i don't see them as a good fit. as for kerwynn williams to have him and lance dunbar as the backups to demarco murray is dumb. if demarco has to miss any extended which he has the last 2 seasons, we're gonna be right back where we were this year with two small backs behind the pretty the same shoddy line = NO RUNNING GAME

i know ive been harsh but im just giving you my honest opinion, realistically i only see 2 player who could actually help out this year play any significant time out of this draft class and alot question marks

Trogdor
01-20-2013, 06:04 AM
i liked what you did with the cap sad to see ratliff go but tough decisions have to me made and thought it was well organized and good plan up until your draft

i honestly dont see a team trading up to get mike glennon or geno smith or whoever but whatever its a mock draft but i have serious hate alot of the picks u made

1. i don't understand why we would pay spencer and draft height-weight-speed (HWS) guy at the same position. there is the old-saying....those who do not know their history are failed to repeat it. trading back and taking a HWS seems eerily similar to the 2009 brandon williams pick and on top that margus hunt is at least year and probably two from being a every down player, i just don't think it would make much sense to trade back and take a player who can't help you as a rookie unless its a qb.

2. dallas thomas did NOT make the successful transition to guard. tennessee moved him their to get the best 5 guys on the field but guard is not his best position. as vols fans and as someone who has watched alot film since week 16 on o-lineman, im telling you he's not a guard, in many short yardage situation he got pushed back and rag dolled b/c he doesn't have inline power to move big dt's in those situations. thomas is a finesse, zone-blocking tackle not a power guy at all in fact he's alot like parnell, just more experienced with a better pedigree

3. i have no issue with swearinger or bass (ima have to look him to get a better feel but all the scouting the reports have him as elite athlete with alot versality and upside not bad for the 4th round) but zach line and kerwynn williams. im not big on fullbacks that can't block and demarco murray is power back who like to play behind a fullback i don't see them as a good fit. as for kerwynn williams to have him and lance dunbar as the backups to demarco murray is dumb. if demarco has to miss any extended which he has the last 2 seasons, we're gonna be right back where we were this year with two small backs behind the pretty the same shoddy line = NO RUNNING GAME

i know ive been harsh but im just giving you my honest opinion, realistically i only see 2 player who could actually help out this year play any significant time out of this draft class and alot question marks

Certainly valid points.

1. The entire reason for drafting Hunt and Bass was the fact they have so much untapped potential and we'll have time to develop them to replace Ware and Spencer when they near the end of their contracts. The 4-3 demands pass rushers and currently we have 1 who has been suffering the beatings of constant doubles all his career. Early in their career they'll be rotational guys and Hunt is fully capable of taking reps at 3-tech on the defensive line as well. I don't understand the Butler/Hunt comparison aside from calling them both HWS guys. Victor Butler was an outstanding pass rusher who never received playing time due to being completely inept against the run. He was always considered one of the best pass rushers on the team.

2. Going to have to agree to disagree on Dallas Thomas. I watched quite a few of his gamesbut I didn't see him getting "Doug Free'd (ragdolled)" even by the larger NTs. One thing I have to agree with is that he is not a mauler but I don't believe that is someone that Garrett is targeting. The struggles I saw with Thomas were with speed rushers. He has excellent feet but if the defender could dip and get to his shoulder with an excellent first step he was in trouble. He certainly isn't overly assertive at the point of attack so I can see the complaint in short-yardage situations.

3. Zach Line provides us with something we haven't had in a while. Power running threat, FB capable of being dangerous in the passing game, excellent pass protector, average as a lead blocker. Considering how poorly we looked when one of the "elite" lead blockers was leading the charge (Vickers) I can easily see us transitioning to the more athletic and versatile FB mold. Line certainly isn't going to blow a LB out of the hole on interior rushes but he is fully capable of leading the charge on a counter and sealing off the LB/DE. If DeMarco misses time we'll be having three backs carry the load (Dunbar, Williams, and the aforementioned Zach Line).

The situation for us is very similar to last season. We are going to end up undermanned somewhere and most likely it'll be one of the trenches. If we don't reload the DE position we're going to struggle to get pressure with 4 man rushes and the scheme is going to fall apart against any decent QB. On the flip side if we don't reload on the OL Romo is going to be running for his life and our running game will struggle. In this scenario I was envisioning a fully healthy line with all camp to gel and the right side of Thomas - Parnell outperforming Bernie - Free by a large margin.

Thanks for the feedback though. On my next mock I'm planning on giving a lot more love to the offensive line I imagine depending on how the picture looks after the Senior Bowl.

D-Unit
01-20-2013, 12:50 PM
Vickers gives us more than on field production. His demeanor is infectious and motivating. Been a mentor to Dez and I think keeping that going would be good. I'd like to see him build a relationship with Murray that is special. I'm hoping that our new RB coach can stir that Magic.

Trogdor
01-20-2013, 02:20 PM
Vickers gives us more than on field production. His demeanor is infectious and motivating. Been a mentor to Dez and I think keeping that going would be good. I'd like to see him build a relationship with Murray that is special. I'm hoping that our new RB coach can stir that Magic.

His on-the-field performance though was dreadful. I didn't think he was all that good during the season and then PFF's review wasn't good either. No way he'll be around when we can save more than a million to kick him to the curb.

D-Unit
01-20-2013, 03:55 PM
His on-the-field performance though was dreadful. I didn't think he was all that good during the season and then PFF's review wasn't good either. No way he'll be around when we can save more than a million to kick him to the curb.
When your rushing game is 31st in the league, that review can't be good. But a lot of factors go into that besides playing FB. Career wise, Vickers is good. Damn good. Saving a million is nada.

Trogdor
01-20-2013, 04:02 PM
When your rushing game is 31st in the league, that review can't be good. But a lot of factors go into that besides playing FB. Career wise, Vickers is good. Damn good. Saving a million is nada.

Don't get me wrong I love power football I just can't envision a scenario where our offensive line becomes adept at it. I think we could be a success running team with a basis on deception (counters, crack toss, etc) but all of those types of plays don't require a bulldozer at FB. I also think we can use every last penny this offseason.

I agree Vickers is beyond good when you evaluate his career as a whole though. I loved the signing and honestly wish we weren't in salary cap purgatory.

D-Unit
01-20-2013, 04:06 PM
Don't get me wrong I love power football I just can't envision a scenario where our offensive line becomes adept at it. I think we could be a success running team with a basis on deception (counters, crack toss, etc) but all of those types of plays don't require a bulldozer at FB. I also think we can use every last penny this offseason.

I agree Vickers is beyond good when you evaluate his career as a whole though. I loved the signing and honestly wish we weren't in salary cap purgatory.
That's a nice thought. Didn't see ya change up the OC in your mock though. So long as Jason is calling stuff, we ain't seeing none of that. haha.

cmd34
01-22-2013, 12:11 AM
Like what you did, very detailed. Great stuff/suggestions with the cap maneuvering.

A few things I didn't:

*3rd for Swearinger seems high to me. I'm not a fan, he's too stiff.

*5th seems high for the SMU fullback/H-back tweener.

*Can't get excited about a Defense that starts Alex Albright, Gerald Sensabaugh, and Barry Church as well as no impact DT's.

* Can't get excited about an O Line that starts Parnell and Costa. We need to improve there or Romo will be running for his life again.

* Just noticed you retained Sims. I think he beats out Albright especially in the Tampa 2.

D-Unit, weren't you "overly excited" about a South Carolina Safety last year as well?

CowboysBeastMode
01-22-2013, 02:14 AM
Certainly valid points.

1. The entire reason for drafting Hunt and Bass was the fact they have so much untapped potential and we'll have time to develop them to replace Ware and Spencer when they near the end of their contracts. The 4-3 demands pass rushers and currently we have 1 who has been suffering the beatings of constant doubles all his career. Early in their career they'll be rotational guys and Hunt is fully capable of taking reps at 3-tech on the defensive line as well. I don't understand the Butler/Hunt comparison aside from calling them both HWS guys. Victor Butler was an outstanding pass rusher who never received playing time due to being completely inept against the run. He was always considered one of the best pass rushers on the team.

2. Going to have to agree to disagree on Dallas Thomas. I watched quite a few of his gamesbut I didn't see him getting "Doug Free'd (ragdolled)" even by the larger NTs. One thing I have to agree with is that he is not a mauler but I don't believe that is someone that Garrett is targeting. The struggles I saw with Thomas were with speed rushers. He has excellent feet but if the defender could dip and get to his shoulder with an excellent first step he was in trouble. He certainly isn't overly assertive at the point of attack so I can see the complaint in short-yardage situations.

3. Zach Line provides us with something we haven't had in a while. Power running threat, FB capable of being dangerous in the passing game, excellent pass protector, average as a lead blocker. Considering how poorly we looked when one of the "elite" lead blockers was leading the charge (Vickers) I can easily see us transitioning to the more athletic and versatile FB mold. Line certainly isn't going to blow a LB out of the hole on interior rushes but he is fully capable of leading the charge on a counter and sealing off the LB/DE. If DeMarco misses time we'll be having three backs carry the load (Dunbar, Williams, and the aforementioned Zach Line).

The situation for us is very similar to last season. We are going to end up undermanned somewhere and most likely it'll be one of the trenches. If we don't reload the DE position we're going to struggle to get pressure with 4 man rushes and the scheme is going to fall apart against any decent QB. On the flip side if we don't reload on the OL Romo is going to be running for his life and our running game will struggle. In this scenario I was envisioning a fully healthy line with all camp to gel and the right side of Thomas - Parnell outperforming Bernie - Free by a large margin.
Thanks for the feedback though. On my next mock I'm planning on giving a lot more love to the offensive line I imagine depending on how the picture looks after the Senior Bowl.
1. margus hunt as a 3 tech:gtfo: what in the world are you lookin at to think he can play the 3 tech. he doesnt fire off the ball and beat blocks at the point of attack when he's been inside, he's a place holder at this point. oh btw i compared drafting him to BRANDON WILLIAMS NOT VICTOR BUTLER. u need to pull out ur reading glasses

2. there was one play tennessee had in a goal to go in the first half and dj sqaure ran him over, to me his best fit is in a zone scheme either at guard or tackle. he's 6'5'' and only weighs 305, he not going to be able to anchor or generate consistent push in the run game and he's not an explosive athlete despite being undersized like cooper, i don't see him as a fit here at all.

i think the cowboys offensive line play was embarrassing at best i don't think their that stubborn to roll out there with the similar level a talent level. to me they changed defenses because they won't have to make major personnel changes. i expect this to be a heavy offensive draft. i would be surprised if we didnt come out of this draft with at least 2 OL and either a RB,WR,TE help as well. the cowboys have taken for granted romo's ability to escape pressure for far too long, i expect that to change this year

Trogdor
01-22-2013, 07:39 AM
1. margus hunt as a 3 tech:gtfo: what in the world are you lookin at to think he can play the 3 tech. he doesnt fire off the ball and beat blocks at the point of attack when he's been inside, he's a place holder at this point. oh btw i compared drafting him to BRANDON WILLIAMS NOT VICTOR BUTLER. u need to pull out ur reading glasses

My apologies for the comparison when I'm done with my reading glasses I will pass them to you to watch tape on Margus Hunt. Doesn't fire off the ball? He's the first guy to move on the snap, lightning quick first step, and can rip inside (rare), or dip his shoulder and round the lineman before they even complete their kick-step. Fresno State is the game everyone points to but the man he was lined up played incredibly poorly. Take this play against Pitt for example. Off the snap he's the inside man responsible for splitting the gap between the guard and tackle. He fires off the ball into the gap and is by the guard before he can even get his hands up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXIV8LYURsc&t=0m12s

Incredibly raw but we are talking about a 295 lb athletic of pure muscle that runs a 4.7 with an 84" wingspan. Teach him how to use his hands and somehow play lower for leverage and he's going to be a nightmare. He's honestly my #2 DE target in terms of value/draft position. David Bass (whom I selected later) might be the biggest steal in the draft if he puts it all together.


2. there was one play tennessee had in a goal to go in the first half and dj sqaure ran him over, to me his best fit is in a zone scheme either at guard or tackle. he's 6'5'' and only weighs 305, he not going to be able to anchor or generate consistent push in the run game and he's not an explosive athlete despite being undersized like cooper, i don't see him as a fit here at all.


Make no doubt about it. By passing on Warmack and Cooper you are missing the elite group of interior lineman in this draft. Those two are the only two fully capable of doing everything you ask of them. After that it's a trade off. If we are going to ask him to pull on a lot of plays he's a good fit. If we ask him to inline block power-I style then he's a horrible fit. I'm projecting less of the straight-ahead power running and more of the finesse misdirection/counter/crack-toss type of rushing attack. Looking at the type of lineman we have been using since Garrett arrived we are moving away from the immobile mountain men and more towards guys with quick feet.

Using a single play to point out a flaw in a prospect is cherry picking as well. I can find you a couple plays where even Chance Warmack gets pushed into his QB due to poor anchor but it isn't the norm. Dallas Thomas definitely needs to work on his anchor but to suggest he has zero anchor or incapable of playing anything but ZBS is facetious at best.
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i think the cowboys offensive line play was embarrassing at best i don't think their that stubborn to roll out there with the similar level a talent level. to me they changed defenses because they won't have to make major personnel changes. i expect this to be a heavy offensive draft. i would be surprised if we didnt come out of this draft with at least 2 OL and either a RB,WR,TE help as well. the cowboys have taken for granted romo's ability to escape pressure for far too long, i expect that to change this year

Agreed. As I said in my next one I'd go much heavier on offensive lineman and wouldn't go with the trade-back I projected above. Can't go two mocks in a row without selecting Cooper :)

Something along the lines of:

1) Johnathan Cooper, OG, UNC
2) Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
3) Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia
4) David Bass, DE, Missouri Western
5) Jawan Jamison, RB
6) Michael Mauti, LB, Penn State (Sean Lee type instincts but coming off ACL tears in the last two years. Team captain, etc. RKG (right kind of guy).

Instead of signing Sammie Hill in this scenario Dallas would sign soon-to-be-cut Dallas native Jason Smith (OT). Smith would likely sign for veteran minimum or somewhere near there after completely bottom'ing out for the Rams and then Jets. Phil Costa would not return in this scenario as Bernie would be the starting C with competition from Cook. Sensabaugh will be cut in this scenario and sign Corey Lynch as a core special teamer with the able to backup Church at SS.

Smith - Livings - Bernie - Cooper - Parnell

Swing OT: Jason Smith (Weems inactive but on 53)


Tough sell on Rambo in the third but provided he interviews well and is done failing drug tests for pot I can see the value in the pick.

D-Unit
01-22-2013, 12:17 PM
1. margus hunt as a 3 tech:gtfo: what in the world are you lookin at to think he can play the 3 tech. he doesnt fire off the ball and beat blocks at the point of attack when he's been inside, he's a place holder at this point. oh btw i compared drafting him to BRANDON WILLIAMS NOT VICTOR BUTLER. u need to pull out ur reading glasses

2. there was one play tennessee had in a goal to go in the first half and dj sqaure ran him over, to me his best fit is in a zone scheme either at guard or tackle. he's 6'5'' and only weighs 305, he not going to be able to anchor or generate consistent push in the run game and he's not an explosive athlete despite being undersized like cooper, i don't see him as a fit here at all.

i think the cowboys offensive line play was embarrassing at best i don't think their that stubborn to roll out there with the similar level a talent level. to me they changed defenses because they won't have to make major personnel changes. i expect this to be a heavy offensive draft. i would be surprised if we didnt come out of this draft with at least 2 OL and either a RB,WR,TE help as well. the cowboys have taken for granted romo's ability to escape pressure for far too long, i expect that to change this year
Let's try to provide critique without insulting one another. I noticed you like to do that. No reason to get angry.

D-Unit
01-22-2013, 12:45 PM
Like what you did, very detailed. Great stuff/suggestions with the cap maneuvering.

A few things I didn't:

*3rd for Swearinger seems high to me. I'm not a fan, he's too stiff.

*5th seems high for the SMU fullback/H-back tweener.

*Can't get excited about a Defense that starts Alex Albright, Gerald Sensabaugh, and Barry Church as well as no impact DT's.

* Can't get excited about an O Line that starts Parnell and Costa. We need to improve there or Romo will be running for his life again.

* Just noticed you retained Sims. I think he beats out Albright especially in the Tampa 2.

D-Unit, weren't you "overly excited" about a South Carolina Safety last year as well?
The guy last year was Antonio Allen. Not as a FS though. More in the role of that hybrid LB/S position that Church played for us in Nickel downs. Allen played the Spur position for the Gamecocks. Since he didn't play S in college, and was undersized for LB, a lot of teams didn't know what to do with him. That's why he fell in the draft. I wasn't a fan of Church last year and that hasn't changed despite the fact that we gave him a new contract. That new contract isn't really bulletproof either. The cap hit for waiving him is low.

With Swearinger, I fully believe he can go as high as the mid 3rd round where we are picking. Perhaps even higher after he validates himself at the combine (which I think he will). Teams know he can play safety and have the film to evaluate him on. What they'll also find is that Carolina also lined him up at Corner at times. Swearinger's versatility to play either S position is gonna be valuable to his stock.

With Kiffin here, Safeties will be asked to (legally) punish receivers. Jarring the ball loose with big hits is a big facet of the Tampa 2. It's a big part of that whole concept of "creating turnovers" with this defense. Swearinger doesn't have elite speed/hips but that's why he's still here in the 3rd. For the record, I don't know if there is a single safety in this draft who does have elite speed/hips. But he does have a nose for the ball and he plays with extreme confidence, which is the kind of infectious attitude that has helped teams like the Ravens and Steelers.

CowboysBeastMode
01-23-2013, 10:16 AM
My apologies for the comparison when I'm done with my reading glasses I will pass them to you to watch tape on Margus Hunt. Doesn't fire off the ball? He's the first guy to move on the snap, lightning quick first step, and can rip inside (rare), or dip his shoulder and round the lineman before they even complete their kick-step. Fresno State is the game everyone points to but the man he was lined up played incredibly poorly. Take this play against Pitt for example. Off the snap he's the inside man responsible for splitting the gap between the guard and tackle. He fires off the ball into the gap and is by the guard before he can even get his hands up.


Incredibly raw but we are talking about a 295 lb athletic of pure muscle that runs a 4.7 with an 84" wingspan. Teach him how to use his hands and somehow play lower for leverage and he's going to be a nightmare. He's honestly my #2 DE target in terms of value/draft position. David Bass (whom I selected later) might be the biggest steal in the draft if he puts it all together.



Make no doubt about it. By passing on Warmack and Cooper you are missing the elite group of interior lineman in this draft. Those two are the only two fully capable of doing everything you ask of them. After that it's a trade off. If we are going to ask him to pull on a lot of plays he's a good fit. If we ask him to inline block power-I style then he's a horrible fit. I'm projecting less of the straight-ahead power running and more of the finesse misdirection/counter/crack-toss type of rushing attack. Looking at the type of lineman we have been using since Garrett arrived we are moving away from the immobile mountain men and more towards guys with quick feet.

Using a single play to point out a flaw in a prospect is cherry picking as well. I can find you a couple plays where even Chance Warmack gets pushed into his QB due to poor anchor but it isn't the norm. Dallas Thomas definitely needs to work on his anchor but to suggest he has zero anchor or incapable of playing anything but ZBS is facetious at best.margus hunt is not a 295 lb beast he is only 277 and he's thin in the lower body. i don't see him as a 3 tech as his best position. to me he's a de in 4-3 now with the size potential to be 5 tech end. yeah he has a rip move but he's doesnt shed the blocker once he rips underneath, he wins with it b/c he a better athlete going up against mid level competition. that won't work for him as a bread butter in the nfl and plus the rip move takes away his best asset, his length and he has no idea of how to counterpunch. just shooting the gap with your shoulders and not using your hands to rid yourself of the blockers won't work either and i notice he does that alot too. if the cowboys were loaded with talent like the niners of patriots or talentless like the jaguars he would be a good pick, bc those teams could afford to bring him along slowly and teach him. time is ticking on the window for this team to win now, i just don't believe margus hunt is gonna help that much early on in his career.

as for thomas yeah its only one play, but the other plays he gets no movement and even gives some ground in the run game, i was giving an example of when he had to man up in that phone booth he got crushed, i dont see him as fit unless the cowboys were going to go to zone heavy run blocking scheme, then it would be great pick

btw thanks for the glasses i pawned off the frames and used the money to buy a key board wrist rest that im using while typing up this reply thx!!!!:wave:

boogeydown
01-23-2013, 07:02 PM
Using the same cap figures and restructuring that was already provided.

Cut:
Doug Free, Marcus Spears, Jay Ratliff, Gerald Sensabugh, Dan Connor

Resign:
Ernie Sims, JP Ladouceur, Phil Costa, Victor Butler

Free Agents:
S Jairus Byrd- instead of resigning Anthony Spencer we use the money on the ball hawking Byrd.
DT Glenn Dorsey- Losing Ratliff, Spears and Brent will leave us thin and DT. Dorsey has been playing in the 3-4 which diminished his value and he should come relatively cheap


Draft: (Im not gonna guess any trades)
1st- DE Ezekiel Ansah. 6'5 270lbs BYU
Ansah has loads of potential and is drawing some comparisons to JPP.
2nd- C Barret Jones. 6'4 305lbs Alabama
Jones is a tad overrated but is still smart and can play OG of needed.
3rd- OG Alvin Bailey. 6'5 315lbs Arkansas
Mauler that paved the way for the Arkansas run game.
4th- DT Kwame Geathers. 6'5 350lbs Georgia
More depth and a stout run stuffer.
5th- RB Rex Burkhead. 5'11 210lbs Nebraska
Bring the Plano kid home. He can run and catch and is a perfect backup to Murray
6th- CB Tyrann Mathieu. 5'9 178lbs LSU
If he's still available at this point I take the chance.
7th- OT Manase Foketi. 6'5 330lbs. West Texas A&M
Massive OT that has potential.
Rookie FA- QB Alex Carder

Roster:
QB- Romo, Orton, Carder
RB- Murray, Burkhead, Dunbar
FB- Vickers
TE- Witten, Hannah, Philips
WR- Bryant, Austin, Harris, Beasley, Coale
OT- Smith, Parnell, Foketi
OG- Livings, Bailey, Bernadeu, Kowalski
C- Jones, Costa

DE- Ware, Ansah, Crawford, Butler
DT- Hatcher, Dorsey, Lissemore, Geathers, Price
LB- Carter, Lee, Albright, Sims, Wilber, McSurdy
CB- Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, Mathieu, Moore
S- Church, Byrd, Johnson

SP- Bailey, Jones, Ladouceur

CowboysBeastMode
01-24-2013, 12:13 PM
Using the same cap figures and restructuring that was already provided.

Cut:
Doug Free, Marcus Spears, Jay Ratliff, Gerald Sensabugh, Dan Connor

Resign:
Ernie Sims, JP Ladouceur, Phil Costa, Victor Butler

Free Agents:
S Jairus Byrd- instead of resigning Anthony Spencer we use the money on the ball hawking Byrd.
DT Glenn Dorsey- Losing Ratliff, Spears and Brent will leave us thin and DT. Dorsey has been playing in the 3-4 which diminished his value and he should come relatively cheap


Draft: (Im not gonna guess any trades)
1st- DE Ezekiel Ansah. 6'5 270lbs BYU
Ansah has loads of potential and is drawing some comparisons to JPP.
2nd- C Barret Jones. 6'4 305lbs Alabama
Jones is a tad overrated but is still smart and can play OG of needed.
3rd- OG Alvin Bailey. 6'5 315lbs Arkansas
Mauler that paved the way for the Arkansas run game.
4th- DT Kwame Geathers. 6'5 350lbs Georgia
More depth and a stout run stuffer.
5th- RB Rex Burkhead. 5'11 210lbs Nebraska
Bring the Plano kid home. He can run and catch and is a perfect backup to Murray
6th- CB Tyrann Mathieu. 5'9 178lbs LSU
If he's still available at this point I take the chance.
7th- OT Manase Foketi. 6'5 330lbs. West Texas A&M
Massive OT that has potential.
Rookie FA- QB Alex Carder

Roster:
QB- Romo, Orton, Carder
RB- Murray, Burkhead, Dunbar
FB- Vickers
TE- Witten, Hannah, Philips
WR- Bryant, Austin, Harris, Beasley, Coale
OT- Smith, Parnell, Foketi
OG- Livings, Bailey, Bernadeu, Kowalski
C- Jones, Costa

DE- Ware, Ansah, Crawford, Butler
DT- Hatcher, Dorsey, Lissemore, Geathers, Price
LB- Carter, Lee, Albright, Sims, Wilber, McSurdy
CB- Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, Mathieu, Moore
S- Church, Byrd, Johnson

SP- Bailey, Jones, Ladouceuranother boom or bust DE as the first pick :confuse:

D-Unit
01-24-2013, 12:22 PM
Using the same cap figures and restructuring that was already provided.

Cut:
Doug Free, Marcus Spears, Jay Ratliff, Gerald Sensabugh, Dan Connor

Resign:
Ernie Sims, JP Ladouceur, Phil Costa, Victor Butler

Free Agents:
S Jairus Byrd- instead of resigning Anthony Spencer we use the money on the ball hawking Byrd.
DT Glenn Dorsey- Losing Ratliff, Spears and Brent will leave us thin and DT. Dorsey has been playing in the 3-4 which diminished his value and he should come relatively cheap


Draft: (Im not gonna guess any trades)
1st- DE Ezekiel Ansah. 6'5 270lbs BYU
Ansah has loads of potential and is drawing some comparisons to JPP.
2nd- C Barret Jones. 6'4 305lbs Alabama
Jones is a tad overrated but is still smart and can play OG of needed.
3rd- OG Alvin Bailey. 6'5 315lbs Arkansas
Mauler that paved the way for the Arkansas run game.
4th- DT Kwame Geathers. 6'5 350lbs Georgia
More depth and a stout run stuffer.
5th- RB Rex Burkhead. 5'11 210lbs Nebraska
Bring the Plano kid home. He can run and catch and is a perfect backup to Murray
6th- CB Tyrann Mathieu. 5'9 178lbs LSU
If he's still available at this point I take the chance.
7th- OT Manase Foketi. 6'5 330lbs. West Texas A&M
Massive OT that has potential.
Rookie FA- QB Alex Carder

Roster:
QB- Romo, Orton, Carder
RB- Murray, Burkhead, Dunbar
FB- Vickers
TE- Witten, Hannah, Philips
WR- Bryant, Austin, Harris, Beasley, Coale
OT- Smith, Parnell, Foketi
OG- Livings, Bailey, Bernadeu, Kowalski
C- Jones, Costa

DE- Ware, Ansah, Crawford, Butler
DT- Hatcher, Dorsey, Lissemore, Geathers, Price
LB- Carter, Lee, Albright, Sims, Wilber, McSurdy
CB- Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, Mathieu, Moore
S- Church, Byrd, Johnson

SP- Bailey, Jones, Ladouceur
If Jerry Jones actually did this, I can't say that I'd be totally upset. Interesting twist on Spencer/Byrd. I've always liked Byrd even as a draft prospect. Dorsey is exactly what we need.

I'm not a fan of Ansah, but I know a lot of others are. I don't get it, but ok. I've been wrong plenty times before. I love Barrett Jones but his foot injury scares me. If we can get him in the 3rd, I'd be thrilled with that. Bailey is a cool 3rd round pick up. Geathers is big and I can't complain about that. I'm also a fan of Burkhead and I agree with your comments on him. Tyrann probably won't pass Garrett's "right kinda guy" motto, but I love his talent/value there. ...and Foketi is a guy who we could develop. Nice potential there.

Overall, I really like this mock. Simply done, but well executed!

CowboysBeastMode
01-24-2013, 05:20 PM
Using the same cap figures and restructuring that was already provided.

Cut:
Doug Free, Marcus Spears, Jay Ratliff, Gerald Sensabugh, Dan Connor

Resign:
Ernie Sims, JP Ladouceur, Phil Costa, Victor Butler

Free Agents:
S Jairus Byrd- instead of resigning Anthony Spencer we use the money on the ball hawking Byrd.
DT Glenn Dorsey- Losing Ratliff, Spears and Brent will leave us thin and DT. Dorsey has been playing in the 3-4 which diminished his value and he should come relatively cheap


Draft: (Im not gonna guess any trades)
1st- DE Ezekiel Ansah. 6'5 270lbs BYU
Ansah has loads of potential and is drawing some comparisons to JPP.
2nd- C Barret Jones. 6'4 305lbs Alabama
Jones is a tad overrated but is still smart and can play OG of needed.
3rd- OG Alvin Bailey. 6'5 315lbs Arkansas
Mauler that paved the way for the Arkansas run game.
4th- DT Kwame Geathers. 6'5 350lbs Georgia
More depth and a stout run stuffer.
5th- RB Rex Burkhead. 5'11 210lbs Nebraska
Bring the Plano kid home. He can run and catch and is a perfect backup to Murray
6th- CB Tyrann Mathieu. 5'9 178lbs LSU
If he's still available at this point I take the chance.
7th- OT Manase Foketi. 6'5 330lbs. West Texas A&M
Massive OT that has potential.
Rookie FA- QB Alex Carder

Roster:
QB- Romo, Orton, Carder
RB- Murray, Burkhead, Dunbar
FB- Vickers
TE- Witten, Hannah, Philips
WR- Bryant, Austin, Harris, Beasley, Coale
OT- Smith, Parnell, Foketi
OG- Livings, Bailey, Bernadeu, Kowalski
C- Jones, Costa

DE- Ware, Ansah, Crawford, Butler
DT- Hatcher, Dorsey, Lissemore, Geathers, Price
LB- Carter, Lee, Albright, Sims, Wilber, McSurdy
CB- Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, Mathieu, Moore
S- Church, Byrd, Johnson

SP- Bailey, Jones, Ladouceuri don't think jairus byrd is going to make it fa, i read back in december, bills have two key players to resign byrd and levitre the G/C. more than likely they'll use the franchise tag on byrd b/c safety salary isn't that high and try to resign levitre. so i wouldn't feel comfortable penciling him in a fa target

as for your draft, don't drink the kool-aid about comparing ansah to jpp. jpp was way more flexible and fluid athlete and had a more natural feel for the game when he was coming out, plus he had more experience b/c he got alot experience playing in joco b4 going to usf vs ansah who was track athlete who's basically been a special teams player prior to this year.

barrett jones is way overrated in my book, he has all the accolades, but their alot of other players that i think will be better pro prospects than him. like warford or

i like bailey, and mathieu low risk, not a fan geathers. i know kiffin likes having interior lineman who get up the field and that not geathers at all. btw we don't have a 7th rounder we traded to mia for ryan cook

D-Unit
01-24-2013, 05:24 PM
i don't think jairus byrd is going to make it fa, i read back in december, bills have two key players to resign byrd and levitre the G/C. more than likely they'll use the franchise tag on byrd b/c safety salary isn't that high and try to resign levitre. so i wouldn't feel comfortable penciling him in a fa target

as for your draft, don't drink the kool-aid about comparing ansah to jpp. jpp was way more flexible and fluid athlete and had a more natural feel for the game when he was coming out, plus he had more experience b/c he got alot experience playing in joco b4 going to usf vs ansah who was track athlete who's basically been a special teams player prior to this year.

barrett jones is way overrated in my book, he has all the accolades, but their alot of other players that i think will be better pro prospects than him. like warford or

i like bailey, and mathieu low risk, not a fan geathers. i know kiffin likes having interior lineman who get up the field and that not geathers at all. btw we don't have a 7th rounder we traded to mia for ryan cook
You're getting really good at making people feel like ****.

CowboysBeastMode
01-24-2013, 05:56 PM
You're getting really good at making people feel like ****.what did i say to hurt his feelings? i didn't attack him personally, whats wrong with disagreeing?

D-Unit
01-24-2013, 06:16 PM
what did i say to hurt his feelings? i didn't attack him personally, whats wrong with disagreeing?
No you didn't attack him personally, just kinda shut down all his ideas. lol.

CowboysBeastMode
01-24-2013, 06:31 PM
No you didn't attack him personally, just kinda shut down all his ideas. lol.just lettin him know not to get his hopes up 4 byrd ain't bad thing either, i did agreed with some of what he said, just not all of it.

D-Unit
01-24-2013, 06:53 PM
just lettin him know not to get his hopes up 4 byrd ain't bad thing either, i did agreed with some of what he said, just not all of it.
It's all good man.

thule
01-31-2013, 10:28 PM
I have some thoughts on FA but just want to get my draft thoughts down for now. I'll come back to this to update FA thoughts.

But the big story I need to solve first is what to do with Anthony Spencer. While I think Spencer played at a top 5 level last year...it was a contract year and we have guys on the roster that can play his spot at SDE (crawford/hatcher). I'd attach a buyer beware with Spencer although he has been solid...I feel like the on/off switch is on too much for me to give him a new 5 year deal paying him at the top.

Now that leaves another hole to fill during the draft. But like I said above...I'm ok with losing talent level at SDE in Kiffin's scheme. I'd much rather invest our FA dollar into a premier 3 tech. I think finding an interior rusher is our top priority this offseason. Our DT depth was thin last year...moving to a 4-3 makes us thinner. Add the fact that our #1 and #2 DT's from last year have been cited for DWI in the past 6 months. If anyone thinks there is a bigger need on this team they need to do some serious reevaluation. We don't have a 1-tech or a 3-tech at this point week one. Ratliff will have some type of suspension...so right away we have a hole on the DL week 1. I'd like to take care of this ahead of time. This is my reasoning for letting Spencer go.

Instead of paying Spencer lets invest in a premier 3-tech. The top guy is Henry Melton. For those that don't know him he is a former RB. Has only been playing defense since hsi Jr. year at Texas. He's 26 years old coming off his best year. Although he was on a talented DL in chicago he was 3rd in the league in sacks for DT. He's had 13 sacks in the past 2 years...that is the type of production we are going to need to make Kiffin's defense work. As far as how much it's going to cost...I'd think last years DT was Red Bryant and he signed a 5 year 35m contract with 14.5 garunteed. I could see us doing something like 5 year 40m and I'm not sure he'll even be an option but until he resigns with Chicago I'm not going to assume we don't have a shot.

Now we don't have to get Melton but if we don't we'll have money to spend. Here are some names that caught my eye. Some may still be with teams but are potential cap casualties.

It's really a shame that our DT situation has to be with this...because coming into this year we had talent and Brent really looked like he'd be a solid NT especially on a 4 man line. This is a position we could touch in the draft but I'm gonna look at FA to find someone who might be cheap.

FA Options
Isaac Sopoaga, SF, NT - 32 years old set to be a FA SF could look to upgrade youth in the draft

S: Charles Woodson is owed $10 million in 2013 and could be a likely cap casualty

Strong safety is more up in the air after impending free agent Pat Chung fell out of favor in 2012.

underrated strong safety Glover Quin's contract has run out. The Texans do not have a viable in-house alternative. Quin is a top-notch run-support safety and often matches up with opposing tight ends. He'd be tough to replace.

Incumbent starter Shaun Cody is entering free agency

Salary cap woes may force Newsome to part with Anquan Boldin ($6 million salary)

left end Robert Geathers' place cincy

free safety Chris Clemons is a free agent mia

nose guard Roy Miller is an unrestricted free agent

The Rams will need new starting safety if they release Quintin Mikell, which is expected.

stl strong-side 'backer Rocky McIntosh's contract has run out

RB Javon Ringer is a free agent

Right end Glenn Dorsey is a free agent, and left end Tyson Jackson is a likely cap casualty due to a massive $14.72 million base salary.

Stalwart strong-side 'backer Daryl Smith is a free agent after an injury-ruined season.

Impending free agent Shonn Greene head-scratchingly set a career high for carries in 2012 despite rushing for a career-worst yards per attempt. He's not expected back

Free agent Dustin Keller has all but begged out of New York and will likely depart for greener pastures.

Calvin Pace will almost certainly be cut. Safety is yet another problem area as starters LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell head to free agency.

Strong-side linebacker Philip Wheeler was the Raiders' only quality starter at this position a year ago.

FA Signings
NT Roy Miller - Miller was part of that terrible defense we saw last year in Tampa Bay. However I remember scouting Miller he's still young and he had some impressive numbers coming out. At 6'2 320lbs he has the size to play the 1 tech. He has been dealing with some injuries the past couple of years...with a clean bill of health he could be our starting NT for 2013. He shouldn't cost much a 4 year deal for 16 mil??
Backup Plan: Shaun Cody, Tyson Jackson

S Charles Woodson - Woodson is due 10m this year. GB is looking to give new deals to Arod, Mathews and Raji. At 37 years old he'd be coming to dallas to finish his career. He is a game changer and would be a good veteran signing to add some veteran leadership to the safety role. This would also make Sensy expendable imo so you could get some money back to help sign Woodson. 2 year deal worth 10-12m might be what it takes and I think it's worth it if you take a look who is out there.
Backup Plan: Pat Chung, Glover Quin, Chris Clemons, Quintin Mikell, LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell

LDE Robert Geathers - I am not sure if this is a need or not I think a guy like Crawford or Albright might be able to handle this spot..but I'd like to sure it up with someone who can stop the run. Reminds me of a Red Bryant signing last year by the Seahawks. Not going to generate lots of stats but is solid against the run and the pass. Think insurance policy. 3 year deal worth 18m. That might not be enough for a DE but with guys like Spencer, Kruger, and Avril potentially all on the market he shouldn't be a first tier DE to go.
Backup Plan: Calvin Pace would be an option but not sure it's even worth the contract since he's coming from a 3-4...could just slow progression if he can't earn starting role.

WR/TE Anquan Boldin - Boldin is 32 years old and is due 6 million this year. If he doesn't restructure he is the guy I want to bring in on offense. His production in the red zone doesn't look to be slowing down and he wouldn't need to play a big role here. Help Tony and the offense put up more TD's in the red zone. He's esentially to me a 2nd TE to split wide. I'd give him a 3 year deal around $12m.
Backup Plan: Dustin Keller might be someone to look at. Hannah looked good at the end of the year but our coaching staff sure didn't do a good job selling him to us. Keller would give us another TE to stretch the field and put pressure on the middle of the field. He'd be the Hernadez and Witten the Gronk. Food for thought. I don't think WR is a need but if Boldin were to be cut by the Ravens i think it'd make a lot of sense to bring him in to use him in the red zone. Plus Miles/Dez aren't guarantees to make it through the year anyways. Nice safety net that wouldn't prohibit development of the other guys since they play different roles.

RB Javon Ringer - Ringer is coming off of a in which he didn't play 3/4 of last season. Had a MCL sprain. If he is available he'd be a nice short yardage guy and add a different dimension from Dunbar. Tanner would be replaced by Ringer in this scenario. Not sure what it'd take to sign him...but a 2-3 year deal in the 7-9m range might be enough for a RB coming off a knee injury. He had a pretty good year in 2011.
Backup Plan: Shonn Greene is another name that I like because he's reliable and can play a role here.

SLB - I didn't address this in FA because I don't really feel like there is enough money to go to this position even though I like some names in FA.
Backup Plan: If we do go this direction these names make sense. Rocky McIntosh is a name I like...might not be a great fit but wouldn't have to play a lot of passing downs so could just play base packages. Daryl Smith from Jax is another option but like I said above...not sure we want to invest FA money in SLB if we address needs like we did above. I feel like if we don't add a Safety in FA we could add SLB. Philip Wheeler out of Oakland would be a great fit but he's suppose to be their #2 target to get resigned this offseason.

I always like to start off looking at the weight of the draft. Find which positions we can find later vs. what positions we need to address earlier.

Draft Prospects per our Needs

DT - 3 Tech
STAR LOTULELEI
SHELDON RICHARDSON
SHARIF FLOYD*
KAWANN SHORT
SYLVESTER WILLIAMS
AKEEM SPENCE*
JORDAN HILL

3-tech class looks solid for about the first 50 picks of the draft. Anywhere in that range I feel like you can get a starter. Richardson is the only guy who I feel is a must take if he's on the board at 18. Might even be worth a future pick to move up a few spots to secure him. He is just so explosive...watching other prospects you just feel like Richardson is a man amoungst boys. He's constantly slashing into the backfield. Need to be sold watch the Alabama tape. He gets hurt comes back gets burned in the 2nd quarter a couple of times...then really turns it on at the end of the game. Thought it showed a lot competitiveness and I see elite potential here. I like others in the list Star will likely be gone, I like Floyd but don't value versatility as much as I do playmaking which is why I'm higher on Richardson. Short is another guy I am really high on. The depth of this position is why I didn't even address it in FA. We should be able to get a starter with our first 2 picks and a few good names to choose from. Williams and Hill would be good consolation prises if we went another position with our first pick.

S
KENNY VACCARO
MATT ELAM*
JONATHAN CYPRIEN
ERIC REID*
JOSHUA EVANS
TONY JEFFERSON*
DAVID AMERSON*
BRADLEY MCDOUGALD
DJ SWEARINGER
J.J. WILCOX
PHILLIP THOMAS
-not draftable...don't hold up in space
BACARRI RAMBO, ROBERT LESTER, TIM MCDONALD JR

The safety class as you can see is deeeep. Vaccaro is a stud and really like his one on one coverages abilities. That said I value DL/OL over a man coverage safety. He won't be used for his strengths enough for me to take him at 18 unless he is truly your highest guy on the board. Find it hard to believe the top 3-techs will be gone. I have a higher grade on Short for us than Vaccaro. I am really high on both Elam and Cyprien I think either could be a day 1 starter. They are similar players. Elam is getting a lot of heat for his size but he has the best ball skills in the class to me. He's just a natural athlete. I think Cyprien proved at the senior bowl he is a starter at the next level. I see a lot of Ed Reed in him on the field....he'll be a good player for awhile to whoever drafts him. Outside of the top 50 picks you start having to choose which type of player you want. Nice variety of hard hitters and coverage guys. I'd think we'd lean for coverage with the organization high on Church. But that said I'm not sold that Church is a NFL starter even if our organization is.

OG/C
CHANCE WARMACK
JONATHAN COOPER
LAWRENCE WARFORD
BARRETT JONES
DALLAS THOMAS
TRAVIS FREDERICK*
GARRETT GILKEY
HUGH THORNTON
KHALED HOLMES
-some talent after these names...but tough to project them as starters year one

Lots of people are high on Warmack this time of year. I like him a lot but I don't think he's as good of a prospect as Maurice Pouncey coming out. Pouncey went at pick 18...so the value would be about right. But I just don't see the talent drop off until after our 2nd round pick. As good as Warmack or Cooper will be year one...you could expect the Warford, Jones, Thomas to be day one starters with our pick in the 2nd round. So that to me is the ultimate kicker. Do you go OG first or 3-tech. We can even find a OG starter outside the first 2 rounds...but it's no sure thing outside the 2nd round.

LDE
BJOERN WERNER*
EZEKIAL ANSAH
SAM MONTGOMERY*
DATONE JONES
CORNEL CARRADINE
ARMONTY BRYANT
WILLIAM GHOLSTON*
MIKE CATAPANO
DEVIN TAYLOR
-tweeners
COREY LEMONIER*
BRANDON JENKINS
DAMONTRE MOORE*
JARVIS JONES*

I truly believe we will let Spencer walk and get paid somewhere else. That leaves us with another need. But contrary to the popular belief I'm not sold that we have a huge need here. I believe there are guys on the roster to get the job done. If you are looking for a year one starter I'd think you'd have to draft one in the first two rounds. Some nice developmental prospects later like a Magnus Hunt or Catapano.

DT - 1 Tech
JESSIE WILLIAMS
JONATHAN HANKINS*
BRANDON WILLIAMS

Another position that has some interesting names that will be on the board at 18. That said I'm not sure you take a NT at 18 unless you feel he is the missing piece. We have too many needs and finding a big body can be done in the later rounds. I really like Brandon Williams and think he will require a 2nd round pick but there isn't a NT in the draft with as much potential as him. He has the work ethic and elite measurables...his best football is in front of him. I could see us nabbing one of the top guys if they were to fall to the 2nd round. Jessie Williams in the 2nd round would feel like stealing. We need beef in the middle to protect our LBs.

RT
LANE JOHNSON
ODAY ABOUSHI
D.J. FLUKER*
JORDAN MILLS
KYLE LONG

I really like Lane Johnson. I think I'd play him at LT and move Smith back over to RT. That said I'm not sure the organization views RT as big of a need as I do. They may cut Free...but I don't see it. He was bad last year...but only a few plays and they were technique problems. Give him a little more help or hell keep the rotation going and we can probably wait another year to see what happens here. I like Fluker in the 2nd if he somehow is still on the board. I also like Mills and Long a lot. Mills looks mean at RT and Long can play inside or outside. Give him a year of strength training and you have another starter on the OL. There are some interesting names later but I don't see anyone coming in and challenging for a starting spot over what we have.


Draft Picks
1 - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
Other Options: Richardson, Floyd, Warmack, Cooper, Johnson, Ansah
2 - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Other Options: Sylvester Williams, Spence, Fluker, Elam, Cyprien, Warford, B Jones, Thomas, Frederick, Carradine, J Williams,
3 - Jonathan Cyprien, S, Florida Internation
Other Options: J Hill, E Reid, Gholston, Catapano, Taylor, Brandon Williams, Mills, Long
4 - Khaled Holmes, C, USC
Other Options: David Quessenberry, Phillip Thomas, Jamar Taylor, Brian Schwenke, Robert Alford
5 - Earl Watford, OG, James Madison
6036, 300 and 5.10: Excellent body control, balance and coordination combined so that he could adjust to block a moving target with remarkable ease out in space. Quick out of stance to set to block, Watford can “get a good fit,” kept feet moving and could keep man pinned on LOS in pass pro. Perhaps most impressive was Watford’s ability to re-set and anchor when he was jolted backwards initially by power rusher. Watford is not likely to be a high draft pick, but after what I observed in Tampa I am confident that he will develop into a quality starting guard in time.
6 - D.C. Jefferson, TE, Rutgers
A former quarterback, Jefferson didn't show the expected progression at tight end throughout his Rutgers career (only 47 catches in 50 career collegiate games), but the raw skills are intriguing. And he flashed his talented skill-set during practices, showing off his large, athletic frame and proving to be an imposing target downfield and a physical blocker. Jefferson is still unpolished in several areas, but he showed this week why he's an interesting developmental player and worth a draft pick on the draft's third day.
7 - Ryan Griffin, QB, Tulane
Griffin has been one of the most impressive prospects on either roster during Shrine game practices this past week. Rob Rang of NFLDraftScout.com said that Griffin separated himself as "the best arm in Allen this week," showing a quick release and good zip on his passes. He still needs to improve his downfield accuracy and timing, but as a late-round pick he would have a lot of upside.

HEISMANHERSCHEL
01-31-2013, 10:51 PM
No Melton. No Spencer, either. Please?

As far as the original plan that started this thread off, I think you did a good job of putting it together where I could understand the salary hit. That thing always puzzles the crud out of me. I have to admit that I don't understand it.

-I love Phillip Tanner and hate to see him go.
-I get nervous when we restructure contracts all the time. Does the pied piper ever come calling in the NFL? I honestly don't know. But I would think that eventually he will.

One more question for the original post that started this thread. Does that look like an NFL offensive line? I feel like our OL has held this team back. When I looked at your starting OL, my first impression was 8-8. I know you can only work with what there is to work with. But that scares me.

Brothgar
01-31-2013, 10:56 PM
You bastards keep your dirty hand off my Sammie Hill you damn dirty cowboys!

Iamcanadian
02-01-2013, 12:03 AM
For all initial salary cap figures I used the compiled list in this thread:



Initial figures PRIOR to making any cuts or signings puts us at $147,596,344 or $26.6 million over the cap. With that in mind I'll dive right in :)

FIXING THE PROBLEM

Step 1. Re-negotiate Miles Austin to an amenable amount.
*Note* Not a full restructure we cannot afford to push anymore bonus money to the end of the contract. He either takes a pay cut, which I predict, or he gets his papers. Approach Miles Austin and let him know he is a vital part of the team but not for his cap hit. Guarantee him money through 2014 in exchange for losing salary off the back of the contract.
New 2013 Cap number - $2,355,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $5,947,000 Austin will walk, no way he accepts a pay cut.

Step 2. Cut Doug Free: Designate Free as a June 1st cut
New 2013 Cap Number - $4,175,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $7,000,000 Now the team is absolutely desperate for a new RT.

Step 3. Cut Jay Ratliff: After June 1st
Cowboys attempt to renegotiate (i.e. paycut) but Jay refuses. Combined with his lack of "team support" while injured - Eaton actually approached the organization to find out if he was suspended as he was not on the sidelines with his teammates and his blow up with Jerry it's hard to see him around at if a suitable replacement is found.
New 2013 Cap Number - $3,000,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $4,000,000 Now we need a 2 gap DT plus a 1 gap penetrating DT.

Step 4. Restructure Brandon Carr's Contract
Convert Carr's $14,300,000 2013 Salary to a $10,000,000 signing bonus, plus a $4,400,000 salary
New 2013 Cap Number - $8,900,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $7,400,000 He'll never agree and has no reason to renegotiate.

Step 5. Negotiate a New 5-year Contract for Tony Romo
Get Romo to sign a new $85 million contract
Include a $25 million signing bonus, plus a $2.5 million first year salary
Include $40 million guaranteed (2nd year salary of $13.5 million guaranteed)
New 2013 Cap Number - $12,818,833
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $4,000,000 I like it but what does his contract call for now because he will never accept a pay cut this late in his career.

Step 6. Restructure Jason Witten's Contract
Convert Witten's $5.5 million salary to a 4.5 million signing bonus, plus a $1.1 million salary
New 2013 Cap Number - $4,500,000
2013 Cap Savings - $3,500,000 Probably looking for a raise not a pay cut.

Step 7. Designate Josh Brent NFI (Non-Football-Illness)
Total 2013 Cap savings $575,000

Step 8. Restructure and extend DeMarcus Ware's contract
Convert Ware's 5.5 million salary to a $4 million signing bonus, plus a salary of $1.6 million
New 2013 Cap Number - $9,321,750
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $2,900,000 I doubt he accepts any type of a pay cut.

With these 8 steps, the Cowboys can reduce the 2013 salary cap charge to $112,274,344.


Additional cost cutting measures:

Cut Phillip Tanner
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $555,000

Cut Donavon Kemp
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $480,000

Cut Lawrence Vickers
New 2013 Cap Number - $100,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $1,100,000

Cut Dan Connor
New 2013 Cap Number - $1,350,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $1,650,000

Cut Marcus Spears: After June 1st
New 2013 Cap Number - $1,050,000
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $950,000

FINAL cap number prior to FA / Draft::::::: $107,539,344 ($13,360,656 in cap space) = Figure $6,000,000 for the rookie pool leaving $7360656 for free agency

Remember, when you cut frindge players, they must be replaced as well as any other players cut and other team's FA are always more expensive.


FREE AGENCY

L.P. Ladouceur: Resign (~750,000 per year) - Best LS we've ever had. Period.
Sammie Hill (1,500,000 2013 cap hit) - 4-3 NT we'll need a hoss in the middle as all as our line is in desparate need of a little beef.
Ernie Sims: 1 year 750,000 - Veteran backup at LB.
Phil Costa: (715,000 2013 cap hit) - Depth and competition at center
Anthony Spencer: Resign (6 years - $38,000,000 (see Ahmad Brooks with more guaranteed and less incentives): 2013 Cap hit $3,000,000 - Creative cap work to give Dallas two agile, intelligent DEs to fit the Tampa-2. Will need to be creative for run defense however with two light ends.

I doubt we are in the market for any expensive FA's, the cap $$$'s aren't increasing for the first time in a long time and teams who are over the cap will really have to struggle to get under. In the past, the increase in the cap $$$'s got teams like Dallas off the hook but not this year.


Remaining Cap Space: $6,645,656

Whew - Checked all the boxes and came in with $645,656 under the cap including the incoming $6,000,000 rookie wage pool. Not bad.


DRAFT:
Cowboys TRADE the 18th pick in the NFL draft to the Bills/Jax/Philly in exchange for the 2nd (~40th) and 5th (~140) selections in the 2013 draft and their first round selection in the 2014 draft. (Almost carbon copy of the JP Losman trade in 2004).

Would be a very smart move cap wise but I seriously doubt Jerry does it for 2 reasons. He likes to see the Cowboys get a lot of publicity on draft day and this draft is so deep, equal talent can be had in round 2 and there are possible starters through round 4, so why make the trade although I like the suggestion.

2T)Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
Dallas is waifer thin at DE in the new 4-3 scheme even with Anthony Spencer retained. Hunt offers an EXTREMELY high ceiling and fully capable of wreaking havoc from any spot on the defensive line. Kiffin is going to get a strong voice in the draft room and a pressure player on the front 4 is likely to be the object of his affection.

Hunt is not a cover 2 DE, Kiffin prefers them small and quick/fast.

2)Dallas Thomas, G/RT, Tennessee
Dallas waits less than a minute to walk the card up for a player of the same name Mr. Dallas Thomas, G/OT, Tennessee. Cowboys plan to kick him over to RG after he successfully transitioned from LT to LG during the 2012. He had no problems dealing with elite NFL prospects playing against the top DTs in the class from the SEC.

3)DJ Swearinger, FS, South Carolina
After missing out on Kenny Vaccaro in the first and watching Reid and Thomas taken off the board prior to their second selection in the 2nd round Dallas is ecstatic for landing Swearinger. A rangy yet physical safety capable of ball-hawking as well as delivering the bone jarring blows he is an EXCELLENT fit for Kiffin's incoming scheme.

4)David Bass, DE, Missouri Western
Raw but incredible athlete. Honestly would of loved him regardless of scheme (3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE). For as quick and fluid as he is at 265lbs he could be an absolute nightmare of passing downs.

5t)Zach Line, RB/FB/H-Back, SMU
Dallas nabs the slipping Zach Line who doesn't have an NFL position by modern convention. A quick interview with Jerry Jones reveals the 'Boys are interested in using him as as a power back/FB combo and utilizing his excellent hands and blitz protect. After the unsuccessful utilization of traditional lead-blocking FBs Line is much more athletic and adept to pass catching while still being no slouch in lead blocking and protection.

5)B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
Extremely quick and fast. Elite recovery speed. Undersized and projects to play inside at CB.

6)Kerwynn Williams, RB/KR, Utah State
Explosive, excellent lateral ability and balance, great hands, packed into a small frame. Obvious weakness lies with his diminutive frame however is a willing blocker.

Primary UDFA / Trade for 7th Rounder: Alex Carder, QB, Western Michigan
Carder will slip due to being injured the latter half of the season but he has all the tools to become an NFL starting QB. He's played through injury, team captain, and has a live arm. He has a knack for keeping plays alive by moving his feet but also has a reputation of forcing throws. Dallas takes him to groom as their, inactive, 3rd QB this season.

Primary UDFA: Ryan Griffin, TE, Connecticut
Projected to be the 4th TE and has a chance to make the 53 based on special teams play and ability to block. Griffin is an active and able blocker more committed seemingly than some of his UCONN teammates. Has the size and ability to be a large red zone target as well.


FINAL ROSTER:

OFFENSE (25)

QB (3)
Tony Romo
Kyle Orton
Alex Carder

RB (3)
DeMarco Murray
Lance Dunbar
Kerwynn Williams (KR/PR)

FB (1)
Zach Line (Power RB/FB/H-Back)

WR (5)
Dez Bryant
Miles Austin
Dwayne Harris
Cole Beasley
Danny Coale

TE (3)
Jason Witten
James Hanna
Ryan Griffin

OT (3)
Tyron Smith
Jermey Parnell
Darrion Weems

OG (4)
OG - Nate Livings
OG - Dallas Thomas (Will also backup OT)
OG - Mackenzy Bernadeau
OG - David Arkin

OC (3)
Ryan Cook
Kevin Kowalski
Phil Costa


DEFENSE (25)

DE (5)
DeMarcus Ware
Anthony Spencer
Margus Hunt
Tyrone Crawford
David Bass

DT (5)
Sammie Hill
Jason Hatcher
Sean Lissenmore
Ben Bass
Brian Price


LB (6)
Bruce Carter (WLB)
Sean Lee (MLB)
Alex Albright (SLB)
Kyle Wilbur (Backup to SLB)
Ernie Sims (Backup to MLB/WLB)
Caleb McSurdy

CB (5)
Brandon Carr
Morris Claiborne
Orlando Scandrick
B.W. Williams
Sterling Moore (Backup FS)

S (4)
Barry Church (SS)
Gerald Sensabaugh (FS)
DJ Swearinger (FS)
Matt Johnson (FS/SS)

ST (3)
PK - Dan Bailey
P - Chris Jones
LS - L.P. Ladouceur

Total (53)

Just about completed. Will polish and flesh out some of the draft picks and make it prettier but I'm beat. Numbers SHOULD be correct but after making last minute changes they be a tad off. I will check the math again at some point.

Thoughts?

Team's top priority in this scheme would be a penatrating DT whose chief priority would be to rush the passer.

Trogdor
02-01-2013, 05:19 AM
Team's top priority in this scheme would be a penatrating DT whose chief priority would be to rush the passer.

Most of your points made me laugh so I'll be more then happy to explain how restructurings work. Unless specifically noted as a pay cut restructuring just changes WHEN the player gets his money not IF the player gets his money.

So for Carr, Witten, and Ware they are converting their massive salaries to BONUSES which they receive immediately. Teams make these moves all the time to clear cap space in years they are above the cap.

As far as some of your other points I'll address them. Free agents after the first week or two are typically veteran minimum types looking for work. If you look at my numbers I really only targeted lower end FAs.

If you look up the average Monte Kiffin strong-side end you actually see a slightly bigger end around Tyrone Crawford size ;) I'll be more than happy to link you if you disagree.

In this situation Sammie Hill will be the 1-tech (NT) and Jason Hatcher will be the 3-tech. Hatcher can certainly 3-tech without issue and Lissemore can spell him as well. I fully understand Kiffin's cover-2 and will happy link you to more sources to fully explain gap responsibilities and Monte's average size for each position if it would make it easy to give me feedback.


As far as the offensive line HEISMANHERSCHEL I certainly agree. This was my first run through and the trade down really hampered my ability to select any of the top guards. I'll be posting another one now that the all-star games are out of the way and I can tell you already that it has a MUCH more offensive-line oriented approach and adds a more interesting cut.

Broth <3 :)

D-Unit
02-01-2013, 12:57 PM
Most of your points made me laugh so I'll be more then happy to explain how restructurings work. Unless specifically noted as a pay cut restructuring just changes WHEN the player gets his money not IF the player gets his money.

So for Carr, Witten, and Ware they are converting their massive salaries to BONUSES which they receive immediately. Teams make these moves all the time to clear cap space in years they are above the cap.

As far as some of your other points I'll address them. Free agents after the first week or two are typically veteran minimum types looking for work. If you look at my numbers I really only targeted lower end FAs.

If you look up the average Monte Kiffin strong-side end you actually see a slightly bigger end around Tyrone Crawford size ;) I'll be more than happy to link you if you disagree.

In this situation Sammie Hill will be the 1-tech (NT) and Jason Hatcher will be the 3-tech. Hatcher can certainly 3-tech without issue and Lissemore can spell him as well. I fully understand Kiffin's cover-2 and will happy link you to more sources to fully explain gap responsibilities and Monte's average size for each position if it would make it easy to give me feedback.


As far as the offensive line HEISMANHERSCHEL I certainly agree. This was my first run through and the trade down really hampered my ability to select any of the top guards. I'll be posting another one now that the all-star games are out of the way and I can tell you already that it has a MUCH more offensive-line oriented approach and adds a more interesting cut.

Broth <3 :)
I don't think that is exactly correct the way you put it. As far as what I understand, when players restructure their contracts, their base salary is lowered and turned into bonus, but they don't receive that bonus "immediately". Since base salary + bonus are both counted against the cap, that wouldn't make sense as a way to clear cap.

What happens is the base salary money that is converted to bonus gets prorated over the remaining term of the contract.

ie:

John Doe
2013: $7,000,000 - Base Salary | $1,000,000 - Bonus = $8,000,000 Cap Hit
2014: $8,000,000 - Base Salary | $1,000,000 - Bonus = $9,000,000 Cap Hit
2015: $9,000,000 - Base Salary | $1,000,000 - Bonus = $10,000,000 Cap Hit

In this scenario, John Doe only has $3M in guaranteed salary because of the signing bonus.

Restructures contract for 2013.

2013: $1,000,000 - Base Salary | $3,000,000 - Bonus = $8,000,000 Cap Hit
2014: $8,000,000 - Base Salary | $3,000,000 - Bonus = $9,000,000 Cap Hit
2015: $9,000,000 - Base Salary | $3,000,000 - Bonus = $10,000,000 Cap Hit

His 2013 Base Salary is reduced by $6M. That $6M is prorated over the remaining 3 years of his deal. That equates to $2M each year added to the existing $1M that he was already expecting.

Now, John Doe's guaranteed money is increased from $3M before restructuring to $9M after restructuring. So that's why he does it.

What it sounded like you were saying was this:

2013: $7,000,000 - Base Salary | $1,000,000 - Bonus = $8,000,000 Cap Hit

turns into

2013: $1,000,000 - Base Salary | $7,000,000 - Bonus = $1,000,000 Cap Hit

Maybe I was wrong in interpreting you, but that's what I thought.

D-Unit
02-01-2013, 01:19 PM
I have some thoughts on FA but just want to get my draft thoughts down for now. I'll come back to this to update FA thoughts.

But the big story I need to solve first is what to do with Anthony Spencer. While I think Spencer played at a top 5 level last year...it was a contract year and we have guys on the roster that can play his spot at SDE (crawford/hatcher). I'd attach a buyer beware with Spencer although he has been solid...I feel like the on/off switch is on too much for me to give him a new 5 year deal paying him at the top.

Now that leaves another hole to fill during the draft. But like I said above...I'm ok with losing talent level at SDE in Kiffin's scheme. I'd much rather invest our FA dollar into a premier 3 tech. I think finding an interior rusher is our top priority this offseason. Our DT depth was thin last year...moving to a 4-3 makes us thinner. Add the fact that our #1 and #2 DT's from last year have been cited for DWI in the past 6 months. If anyone thinks there is a bigger need on this team they need to do some serious reevaluation. We don't have a 1-tech or a 3-tech at this point week one. Ratliff will have some type of suspension...so right away we have a hole on the DL week 1. I'd like to take care of this ahead of time. This is my reasoning for letting Spencer go.

Instead of paying Spencer lets invest in a premier 3-tech. The top guy is Henry Melton. For those that don't know him he is a former RB. Has only been playing defense since hsi Jr. year at Texas. He's 26 years old coming off his best year. Although he was on a talented DL in chicago he was 3rd in the league in sacks for DT. He's had 13 sacks in the past 2 years...that is the type of production we are going to need to make Kiffin's defense work. As far as how much it's going to cost...I'd think last years DT was Red Bryant and he signed a 5 year 35m contract with 14.5 garunteed. I could see us doing something like 5 year 40m and I'm not sure he'll even be an option but until he resigns with Chicago I'm not going to assume we don't have a shot.

I always like to start off looking at the weight of the draft. Find which positions we can find later vs. what positions we need to address earlier.

Our Needs
DT - 3 Tech
S
OG/C
DT - 1 Tech
RT


coming back to finish this later
Not ready to say Ratliff will miss games because of his arrest. Michael Turner and Marshawn Lynch both got arrested last year for DUI and neither missed any games. We thought they were, but they didn't.

Iamcanadian
02-01-2013, 02:11 PM
Most of your points made me laugh so I'll be more then happy to explain how restructurings work. Unless specifically noted as a pay cut restructuring just changes WHEN the player gets his money not IF the player gets his money.

So for Carr, Witten, and Ware they are converting their massive salaries to BONUSES which they receive immediately. Teams make these moves all the time to clear cap space in years they are above the cap.

The change I mentioned about how teams overcame their being above the cap in the past, by relying on a substantial cap increase to solve most of their problems, just isn't going to happen this year and teams that are above the cap could possibly be facing a far more serious problem than they faced in the past and could be forced to really have to take a knife to their roster. Just pointing out a real possibility.

As far as some of your other points I'll address them. Free agents after the first week or two are typically veteran minimum types looking for work. If you look at my numbers I really only targeted lower end FAs.

Your right on here.

If you look up the average Monte Kiffin strong-side end you actually see a slightly bigger end around Tyrone Crawford size ;) I'll be more than happy to link you if you disagree.

For years, Kiffin used Simeon Rice 6'5", 268, and Greg Spires 6'1", 265 as his DE's during the Tampa 2's best years but I agree, later he used at least one larger DE as his LDE.

in this is situation Sammie Hill will be the 1-tech (NT) and Jason Hatcher will be the 3-tech. Hatcher can certainly 3-tech without issue and Lissemore can spell him as well. I fully understand Kiffin's cover-2 and will happy link you to more sources to fully explain gap responsibilities and Monte's average size for each position if it would make it easy to give me feedback.

I really question whether or not Hatcher can handle the position of a penatrating 1 gap DT.


As far as the offensive line HEISMANHERSCHEL I certainly agree. This was my first run through and the trade down really hampered my ability to select any of the top guards. I'll be posting another one now that the all-star games are out of the way and I can tell you already that it has a MUCH more offensive-line oriented approach and adds a more interesting cut.

Broth <3 :)

The draft isn't going to be easy for Jerry, that's for sure. The OL needs help but a remake of the defense is also going to require substantial changes. A Tampa 2 defense requires special Safeties who have the speed to cover half the field and Tampa 2 Safeties are often required to be stronger than the CB's on the team who are often used in zone schemes. Why didf he waste all that money on man to man CB's and then switch to a scheme where they wiull likely play a heck of a lot of zone where toughness is more a requirement than coverage???? Just asking!!!!

Trogdor
02-01-2013, 04:01 PM
The draft isn't going to be easy for Jerry, that's for sure. The OL needs help but a remake of the defense is also going to require substantial changes. A Tampa 2 defense requires special Safeties who have the speed to cover half the field and Tampa 2 Safeties are often required to be stronger than the CB's on the team who are often used in zone schemes. Why didf he waste all that money on man to man CB's and then switch to a scheme where they wiull likely play a heck of a lot of zone where toughness is more a requirement than coverage???? Just asking!!!!

Kiffin already stated he won't be switching to full-on off-man zone schemes that mismatch current personnel. Both Claiborne and Carr thrive playing at the line and will be staying there. You can easily very easily disguise coverages through use of press-man and press-zone (aka press and bail). Carr and Claiborne fit "press and bail" to a T. Expecting Dallas to move them completely off the line to play off-zone would be foolish.

I do agree that mobile safeties are needed and preferably ones that can separate the ball from the receiver. One player to keep an eye on is Matt Johnson. He was injured all of last year but kept on the 53 so the staff sees something special. I thought he was MUCH more suited to moving toward to the receiver than he was in a turn-and-go format of coverage so I think he'll thrive in the Cover-2 if he can get healthy.

Keep an eye on Houston's recently CB-to-S conversation success Glover Quin. He should be a mid-level FA and I feel would be an excellent fit to play FS in a Cover-2 scheme. He's been a successful CB and had success playing SS for Houston last year. In the draft I love Vaccaro but I can't look past the guards in the first round due to what I see has a HUGE drop-off in talent. Reid, Thomas, and Swearinger all fit for what I'm looking for as other projects I'm keeping an eye on after the first round.



As for the contracts thanks D! I was typing fast and heading out the door when I added that part in. Originally I didn't have anything about the contracts. Great thing about it for someone like say Miles Austin you can not have it termed as a "pay cut" but turn it into incentives, roster bonuses and the like.

D-Unit
02-01-2013, 05:17 PM
Man, my mock is seriously getting outta hand. Started off small but has grown into a monster that nobody will want to read. lol.

CowboysBeastMode
02-01-2013, 06:10 PM
The draft isn't going to be easy for Jerry, that's for sure. The OL needs help but a remake of the defense is also going to require substantial changes. A Tampa 2 defense requires special Safeties who have the speed to cover half the field

you sure about that, i mean wouldn't safeties need more speed and range to play in man scheme where they have to not only cover man to but whoever plays the centerfielder have the speed to play from the middle all the way to the sideline vs starting from hash to to the sidelineTampa 2 Safeties are often required to be stronger than the CB's on the team who are often used in zone schemes. Why didf he waste all that money on man to man CB's and then switch to a scheme where they wiull likely play a heck of a lot of zone where toughness is more a requirement than coverage???? Just asking!!!!
claiborne and carr are big corners and they still will press at the line and they can still play 2 man under vs just always the zone too

D-Unit
02-01-2013, 06:26 PM
Yeah, canadian... we already had these panick attacks and Monte came to quickly explain that he'll make adjustments to his scheme. Having strong man cover corners will only make his defense stronger.

D-Unit
02-01-2013, 06:27 PM
You bastards keep your dirty hand off my Sammie Hill you damn dirty cowboys!
I didn't really follow Sammie Hill last season.. was he really that good?

How much do you think he'll cost?

CowboysBeastMode
02-01-2013, 06:54 PM
I didn't really follow Sammie Hill last season.. was he really that good?

How much do you think he'll cost?well he was on the lions defense last i'm not sure anyone was really good on that defense last year, i don't envision him getting a monster deal anywhere

i'm probably gonna put a mock offseason and i have the cowboys taking montori hughes in the 5th rather than signing a free agent

D-Unit
02-01-2013, 07:18 PM
well he was on the lions defense last i'm not sure anyone was really good on that defense last year, i don't envision him getting a monster deal anywhere

i'm probably gonna put a mock offseason and i have the cowboys taking montori hughes in the 5th rather than signing a free agent
I wouldn't mind Hughes in the 5th, but he's definitely not a 3 Tech.

When are you planning to release your mock? I have one as well and don't really want to steal attention away from each other.

Witten4HOF
02-01-2013, 08:51 PM
I wouldn't mind Hughes in the 5th, but he's definitely not a 3 Tech.

When are you planning to release your mock? I have one as well and don't really want to steal attention away from each other.

Hughes originally signed with UT in January 2008, but failed to qualify academically. He spent several months at Fork Union Military Academy in Virginia, before enrolling at Tennessee in January 2009.[5] Hughes had bulked up from 275 to 310 pounds in little over a year, and emerged as one of UT's most talented defensive freshman (alongside defensive backs Janzen Jackson and Darren Myles). He was expected to play in Tennessee's season opener on September 5, 2009. Unfortunately, Hughes was dismissed from the football team on June 9, 2011, by head coach Derek Dooley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montori_Hughes

I'm not quite sure he fits into the JG mold, especially if Dooley is hired.

D-Unit
02-01-2013, 08:57 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montori_Hughes

I'm not quite sure he fits into the JG mold, especially if Dooley is hired.
Hah. What a find. I never made that connection. Funny how a player could be quickly taken off the board based on input from a new coaching hire. But yeah, our coaches should end up having a lot of input.

I feel the same way about Da'Rick Rogers.

CowboysBeastMode
02-01-2013, 09:13 PM
I wouldn't mind Hughes in the 5th, but he's definitely not a 3 Tech.

When are you planning to release your mock? I have one as well and don't really want to steal attention away from each other.

for now ratliff is the projected starting 3 tech and hatcher and crawford also some could help out as a backup 3 tech and as the base end if spencer leaves and lissemore could provide some depth at those positions as well, but no one the roster has the beef to be the shaded nose and hold down that spot

idk when i'm gonna come out with my next mock, i know who i'm taking rounds 4-7 but i keep changing the 2nd and 3rd

could you explain the cap-o-nomics btw straight up cut and post jun 1st cut

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montori_Hughes

I'm not quite sure he fits into the JG mold, especially if Dooley is hired.well gene smith the former gm of jacksonville was all about that rkg stuff and drafting HEAVILY on character, how did that work out for him, if hughes can prove during the interview process that he's matured as a person and he's want to be great football player, the cowboys should take a look at him in the 4th or 5th, after all its a talent acquisition business

dooley shouldn't have that much say on whether or not to draft a guy, he won't be coaching him and its jg butt on the line not his

parcells wasn't shy about taking flyers on guys in the later rounds with character issues IF THEY COULD PLAY, in the fifth its hard to find many guy that can compete for stating jobs

D-Unit
02-01-2013, 09:56 PM
for now ratliff is the projected starting 3 tech and hatcher and crawford also some could help out as a backup 3 tech and as the base end if spencer leaves and lissemore could provide some depth at those positions as well, but no one the roster has the beef to be the shaded nose and hold down that spot

idk when i'm gonna come out with my next mock, i know who i'm taking rounds 4-7 but i keep changing the 2nd and 3rd

could you explain the cap-o-nomics btw straight up cut and post jun 1st cut

well gene smith the former gm of jacksonville was all about that rkg stuff and drafting HEAVILY on character, how did that work out for him, if hughes can prove during the interview process that he's matured as a person and he's want to be great football player, the cowboys should take a look at him in the 4th or 5th, after all its a talent acquisition business

dooley shouldn't have that much say on whether or not to draft a guy, he won't be coaching him and its jg butt on the line not his

parcells wasn't shy about taking flyers on guys in the later rounds with character issues IF THEY COULD PLAY, in the fifth its hard to find many guy that can compete for stating jobs
I could be wrong because it's been a long time since I did the research, but basically...

If a player is cut before June 1st, then the total remaining Signing Bonus is paid up front and counted towards the following year's cap total.

If a player is cut after June 1st, then the total remaining Signing Bonus is prorated.

ie. If Ratliff is cut now then our cap savings for 2013 will be $1M because his cap hit is $7M ($5M base + $2M SB) and he's owed $6M (total remaing SB owed).

If he is cut after June 1st, then our cap savings for 2013 will be $5M because his cap hit is $2M ($0 base = $2M SB) and he's owed $2M in each of the next 3 years (totaling $6M). The $2M each year is counted against the cap as dead money in each of those years.

link to ratliff's contract:
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/jay-ratliff/

Brothgar
02-01-2013, 10:31 PM
I didn't really follow Sammie Hill last season.. was he really that good?

How much do you think he'll cost?

Hill was good at what he was asked to do. He was the Lion's best run defender but I don't think he fits well in the T-2.

D-Unit
02-02-2013, 12:18 AM
Hill was good at what he was asked to do. He was the Lion's best run defender but I don't think he fits well in the T-2.
Yeah, we got run stuffers. We need interior pass rushers. ...sorta... kinda... depends on Ratliff being healthy and Crawford taking the next steps in his development. Plus a big part of me thinks Hatcher will be a bigger playmaker in this system.

D-Unit
02-02-2013, 12:55 AM
for now ratliff is the projected starting 3 tech and hatcher and crawford also some could help out as a backup 3 tech and as the base end if spencer leaves and lissemore could provide some depth at those positions as well, but no one the roster has the beef to be the shaded nose and hold down that spot

I dunno about that really... coming from the 3-4, the same body type required at DE can work as your 4-3 1 tech. That means we should be fine with Hatcher, Lissemore, Spears, Ratliff...and if Price or Brent ever salvage their careers, I'm not too worried about that 1 position with the bodies we have at our disposal. Maybe I'm overly hopeful... I dunno.

CowboysBeastMode
02-02-2013, 01:55 AM
I dunno about that really... coming from the 3-4, the same body type required at DE can work as your 4-3 1 tech. That means we should be fine with Hatcher, Lissemore, Spears, Ratliff...and if Price or Brent ever salvage their careers, I'm not too worried about that 1 position with the bodies we have at our disposal. Maybe I'm overly hopeful... I dunno.i really don't think hatcher or crawford could handle being the that 1 tech over the course of the season.the 3 tech is only playing the b-gap on the other side the 1 tech is some what of defacto nose tackle because you need some one who can cover both a-gaps to protect the linebackers. were still gonna need a big guy in the middle. maybe hatcher, lissemore, and crawford can platoon that spot for this year to get by, but i don't see any of those guys as a good fit they'll just end up wearing down like ratliff did

D-Unit
02-02-2013, 03:03 AM
i really don't think hatcher or crawford could handle being the that 1 tech over the course of the season.the 3 tech is only playing the b-gap on the other side the 1 tech is some what of defacto nose tackle because you need some one who can cover both a-gaps to protect the linebackers. were still gonna need a big guy in the middle. maybe hatcher, lissemore, and crawford can platoon that spot for this year to get by, but i don't see any of those guys as a good fit they'll just end up wearing down like ratliff did
I never mentioned Crawford, but Hatcher, Lissemore, Spears and Ratliff could definitely do it. These guys are not unfamilar to 2 gap assignment. Maybe different gaps, no longer the b, c gaps... but they have the body type and the learning curve is not major.

Boogar McFarland - 6'0, 300
Pat Williams - 6'3, 317

Couple of guys who were thought of as great Tampa 2 1 techs.

Letroy Guion - 6'4, 303
Stephen Paea - 6'1, 300

Vikings and Bears 1 techs last season. I think we got the bodies to make it work. But like I said... if you wanna beef it up with a 5th rounder, I got no issues with that. Just don't see it as a pressing need. ...then again, Hatcher is a FA next season...

IMO, the biggest issue is not a lack of being physically prepared... I think the bigger concern is our players being mentally prepared to handle the scheme changes that are coming.

Witten4HOF
02-02-2013, 08:51 AM
for now ratliff is the projected starting 3 tech and hatcher and crawford also some could help out as a backup 3 tech and as the base end if spencer leaves and lissemore could provide some depth at those positions as well, but no one the roster has the beef to be the shaded nose and hold down that spot

idk when i'm gonna come out with my next mock, i know who i'm taking rounds 4-7 but i keep changing the 2nd and 3rd

could you explain the cap-o-nomics btw straight up cut and post jun 1st cut

well gene smith the former gm of jacksonville was all about that rkg stuff and drafting HEAVILY on character, how did that work out for him, if hughes can prove during the interview process that he's matured as a person and he's want to be great football player, the cowboys should take a look at him in the 4th or 5th, after all its a talent acquisition business

dooley shouldn't have that much say on whether or not to draft a guy, he won't be coaching him and its jg butt on the line not his

parcells wasn't shy about taking flyers on guys in the later rounds with character issues IF THEY COULD PLAY, in the fifth its hard to find many guy that can compete for stating jobs

Whether you or I like it or not character is a major component of a JG draft board and thus far we have managed to still get good talent. Belichick had success drafting this way and slowly started incorporating small question marks once he felt the culture of his team was set. I'm not sure that will happen but that would be the best of both worlds.

As for Hughes, is he a bad kid, Probably not. Looks like all his issues have been academic which is the troubling part for me. To be declared ineligable twice and to be dismissed for it is insane. College teams provide a vast amount of resources to get these kids to pass classes. The players are supplied tutors, and advanced syllabus, and all the way down to help choosing classes. Teams will bend over backwards to at least get players to the minimum required GPA especially for someone who was supposed to be an impact player. That just tells me the work ethic wasn't there and he just thought he could get by without doing anything. Is that the type of player you want on your team?

CowboysBeastMode
02-02-2013, 07:00 PM
I never mentioned Crawford, but Hatcher, Lissemore, Spears and Ratliff could definitely do it. These guys are not unfamilar to 2 gap assignment. Maybe different gaps, no longer the b, c gaps... but they have the body type and the learning curve is not major.
its not so much about being two gap as it is the constant double teams. 3-4 de don't get double teamed nearly as much as a nose tackle. the 5 tech plays two gaps but he doesn't get double teamed. most teams would like to double the nose with the center and backside guard with maybe a chip from the playside guard to help him out, single block the tackle vs the 5 tech, the play side guard vs the playside ILB, the TE vs OLB, and the lead blocker vs the other ILB who scraping over, so the 8th guy in box would be the unblocked guy. the best guys like watt and justin smith command double team when you run their way which allow them to play only 7 in the box because there no one to block the WILB i.e. navorro bowman

you were always are proponent to move ratliff to de to get him away double teams, so what would make you think hatcher would be okay over long course of the season doing that, he was never the relentless player ratliff was. its big difference going up against a tackle in space vs having to anchor vs center and guards in that phone booth

D-Unit
02-02-2013, 08:10 PM
its not so much about being two gap as it is the constant double teams. 3-4 de don't get double teamed nearly as much as a nose tackle. the 5 tech plays two gaps but he doesn't get double teamed. most teams would like to double the nose with the center and backside guard with maybe a chip from the playside guard to help him out, single block the tackle vs the 5 tech, the play side guard vs the playside ILB, the TE vs OLB, and the lead blocker vs the other ILB who scraping over, so the 8th guy in box would be the unblocked guy. the best guys like watt and justin smith command double team when you run their way which allow them to play only 7 in the box because there no one to block the WILB i.e. navorro bowman

you were always are proponent to move ratliff to de to get him away double teams, so what would make you think hatcher would be okay over long course of the season doing that, he was never the relentless player ratliff was. its big difference going up against a tackle in space vs having to anchor vs center and guards in that phone booth
I'm not suggesting it's one man's job either. I think we got a good rotation of tackles between Hatcher, Lissemore, Ratliff, and Spears. All of whom can play either DT position. This is not really something to go back and forth about. I already said if you wanted to spend a 5th rounder on a body like Hughes, I'd be fine with that. Just didn't think it was that pressing especially if our front office has Josh Brent and Brian Price in the picture.

Our DTs are going to be attacking a lot more. These guys know how to play the position. Sometimes I think folks (including myself) over-evaluate the job that needs to get done. My problem with Ratliff was that against the pass he was fine... he did his job. Against the run, he often got bulldozed. I think the

CowboysBeastMode
02-02-2013, 08:37 PM
I'm not suggesting it's one man's job either. I think we got a good rotation of tackles between Hatcher, Lissemore, Ratliff, and Spears. All of whom can play either DT position. This is not really something to go back and forth about. I already said if you wanted to spend a 5th rounder on a body like Hughes, I'd be fine with that. Just didn't think it was that pressing especially if our front office has Josh Brent and Brian Price in the picture.

Our DTs are going to be attacking a lot more. These guys know how to play the position. Sometimes I think folks (including myself) over-evaluate the job that needs to get done. My problem with Ratliff was that against the pass he was fine... he did his job. Against the run, he often got bulldozed. I think thei very sure brent gonna be suspended indefinetly for at least a year like stalworth did.

maybe this conversation is better suited in dallas cowboy discussion thread

CowboysBeastMode
02-02-2013, 08:40 PM
Whether you or I like it or not character is a major component of a JG draft board and thus far we have managed to still get good talent. Belichick had success drafting this way and slowly started incorporating small question marks once he felt the culture of his team was set. I'm not sure that will happen but that would be the best of both worlds.

As for Hughes, is he a bad kid, Probably not. Looks like all his issues have been academic which is the troubling part for me. To be declared ineligable twice and to be dismissed for it is insane. College teams provide a vast amount of resources to get these kids to pass classes. The players are supplied tutors, and advanced syllabus, and all the way down to help choosing classes. Teams will bend over backwards to at least get players to the minimum required GPA especially for someone who was supposed to be an impact player. That just tells me the work ethic wasn't there and he just thought he could get by without doing anything. Is that the type of player you want on your team?its a fifth round pick, its not as if i'd take him with 2nd or 3rd, who the last 5th rounder that actually made the team as a rookie? david buehler?

Trogdor
02-03-2013, 06:03 AM
its a fifth round pick, its not as if i'd take him with 2nd or 3rd, who the last 5th rounder that actually made the team as a rookie? david buehler?

Danny Coale last year. He was waived/injured at camp and then went to IR. He is projected to battle Harris/Beasley for the #3 WR.

Josh Thomas was the 5th rounder in 2011 whom was released and claimed by the Pats. We did snag Dwayne Harris in the 6th though.

We didn't have a 5th rounder in 2010 but we picked up Sean Lissemore in the 7th.


My point in all this is that talent can easily be had in the later rounds. Don't expect Garrett to toss his mantle away without doing his homework though. If Hughes interviews well and convinces Garrett that this stuff is behind him then he might find himself on our draft board. The projected round of the prospect doesn't change the "Right Kind of Guy" mantra that Garrett has built though.

CowboysBeastMode
02-03-2013, 06:26 AM
Danny Coale last year. He was waived/injured at camp and then went to IR. He is projected to battle Harris/Beasley for the #3 WR.

Josh Thomas was the 5th rounder in 2011 whom was released and claimed by the Pats. We did snag Dwayne Harris in the 6th though.

We didn't have a 5th rounder in 2010 but we picked up Sean Lissemore in the 7th.


My point in all this is that talent can easily be had in the later rounds. Don't expect Garrett to toss his mantle away without doing his homework though. If Hughes interviews well and convinces Garrett that this stuff is behind him then he might find himself on our draft board. The projected round of the prospect doesn't change the "Right Kind of Guy" mantra that Garrett has built though.:confuse: what point exactly are u making b/c none of those guys made the team

Trogdor
02-03-2013, 06:58 AM
:confuse: what point exactly are u making b/c none of those guys made the team

You pigeon-holed a single round in the draft. Every year we land a mid-to-late round pick that sticks with the team. Danny Coale is still on the team. Dwayne Harris is still on the team. Sean Lissemore is still on the team.

Previous misses also did not mean you "toss the pick away" since you never get anything from it anyhow. Garrett would view a departure from his team mantra as throwing a draft pick away. I'm not saying we won't target Hughes I'm saying if he doesn't interview well and show that his previous antics are completely over you can forget about him.



My point in all this is that talent can easily be had in the later rounds. Don't expect Garrett to toss his mantle away without doing his homework though. If Hughes interviews well and convinces Garrett that this stuff is behind him then he might find himself on our draft board. The projected round of the prospect doesn't change the "Right Kind of Guy" mantra that Garrett has built though.


If you read my previous post you could of easily avoided needing me to explain the exact same thing again.

CowboysBeastMode
02-03-2013, 12:00 PM
You pigeon-holed a single round in the draft. Every year we land a mid-to-late round pick that sticks with the team. Danny Coale is still on the team. Dwayne Harris is still on the team. Sean Lissemore is still on the team.

Previous misses also did not mean you "toss the pick away" since you never get anything from it anyhow. Garrett would view a departure from his team mantra as throwing a draft pick away. I'm not saying we won't target Hughes I'm saying if he doesn't interview well and show that his previous antics are completely over you can forget about him.




If you read my previous post you could of easily avoided needing me to explain the exact same thing again.

i'm not pigeon holing a round, if you look at draft pick history the fifth round is traditionally the last round to find guys with starter potential.

which cancels out guys like lissemore and coale and harris those guys are role guys

which brings back to the original point taking a guy with starting ability, which if you would taken time to read i would not have to reply back

Witten4HOF
02-03-2013, 12:10 PM
my original point none of the guys the cowboy have drafted in the later rounders has starter potential. which if you would actually read my previous post i would not have to answer.

i'm pigeon holing a round, if you look at draft pick history the fifth round is traditionally the last round to find guys with starter potential

Jay Ratliff, Tony Romo, and Miles Austin say hello. You can find starters anywhere in the draft if you have a good scouting department. Just because it is a later round doesn't mean you change your draft strategy.

Trogdor
02-03-2013, 12:19 PM
i'm not pigeon holing a round, if you look at draft pick history the fifth round is traditionally the last round to find guys with starter potential.

which cancels out guys like lissemore and coale and harris those guys are role guys

which brings back to the original point taking a guy with starting ability

Finding a starter in the 5th round is akin to finding a needle in a haystack. Without counting compensation picks AND holding the #1 pick in the 5th round you would have selected the 129th player. Sure it happens all the time but sure-fire starters are not all to common. Dallas has actually performed very well after the 5th round and with their UDFAs compared to most teams. Problem is our struggles have been 1st through 4th in terms of finding quality when the pool is the deepest.

Lissemore has starter quality but has been buried on the depth chart. He also was miscast in the 3-4 in the same way Ratliff is miscast there. Coale is pretty much a rookie this year given that he was injured for the majority of camp and went to IR. Same with Matt Johnson. Dwayne Harris is certainly a role guy but a considered a starter due to return man position.

Finding a starter in the 5th round means you had a huge hole on the roster. Teams that draft "well" by snaps played from their picks typically perform the worst (Cardinals and Chiefs) are perennial drafting champions and the snaps played by their rookies/2nd year players are much higher than league average.

Irregardless I'll drop it since this really isn't the thread for this conversation :) I'll try putting up a new offseason mock tonight or early tomorrow.

CowboysBeastMode
02-03-2013, 02:13 PM
Finding a starter in the 5th round is akin to finding a needle in a haystack. Without counting compensation picks AND holding the #1 pick in the 5th round you would have selected the 129th player. Sure it happens all the time but sure-fire starters are not all to common. Dallas has actually performed very well after the 5th round and with their UDFAs compared to most teams. Problem is our struggles have been 1st through 4th in terms of finding quality when the pool is the deepest.

Lissemore has starter quality but has been buried on the depth chart. He also was miscast in the 3-4 in the same way Ratliff is miscast there. Coale is pretty much a rookie this year given that he was injured for the majority of camp and went to IR. Same with Matt Johnson. Dwayne Harris is certainly a role guy but a considered a starter due to return man position.

Finding a starter in the 5th round means you had a huge hole on the roster. Teams that draft "well" by snaps played from their picks typically perform the worst (Cardinals and Chiefs) are perennial drafting champions and the snaps played by their rookies/2nd year players are much higher than league average.

Irregardless I'll drop it since this really isn't the thread for this conversation :) I'll try putting up a new offseason mock tonight or early tomorrow.last thing i'll say and i'm done

notable 5th round picks

2005 -trent cole, michael boley, gerald sensabaugh
2006 - rob ninkovich, jerome harrison, dawan landry, tim dobbins, mark anderson, kris kuper, charlie peprah, kyle williams
2007 - steve breaston, breaston, tarell brown, kevin boss, brent celek
2008 - brandon carr, orlando scandrick, tim hightower, letroy guion, matt slater, kroy biermann, carl nicks
2009 - johnny knox, jasper brinkley
2010 - kam chancellor, kendrick lewis, perrish cox, mitch petrus, arthur jones, rile cooper, marshall newhouse
2011 - jacquizz rogers, denarius mooore, jeremy kerley, richard sherman

there other guys who had injuries hurt their career or are role players that i didn't put down. as you can see its a little more a than a needle in haystack. next time do your research

as for lissemore, you don't think the cowboys would've wanted him to play over journeyman kenyon coleman. he started the last 5 games and got beat up and pushed around against the more physical running teams like cincinati and washington.

D-Unit
02-03-2013, 03:17 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 1 of 8


Restrutures

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Stephen Jones will need to get to work quickly just to figure out a way for the current roster to get under the cap. According to Todd Archer (ESPN), the Cowboys are over the projected $121 million cap for 2013 by roughly $20 million with only 44 players under contract. Link (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4702192/cowboys-face-tough-cap-situation-in-2013)

So here's some things we can do. I didn't want to make up all of the restructured numbers out of my own head cause it would've been a total utter guess. So I looked around and found these suggestions which came from: TheLandryHat.com (http://thelandryhat.com/2013/01/26/examining-the-dallas-cowboys-roster-part-two/)


Tony Romo
First things first, it all starts with Romo. Expected to count $17.2M against the cap next season, the Cowboys can extend Romo by giving him a new deal. Giving Romo a three year extension that reduces his cap hit in 2013 by $7M is a good way to start reducing our cap number.
2013 Cap Savings: $7M

Brandon Carr
He has a ridiculous $14.30 base salary and $16.3 cap hit in 2013. Dallas could reduce his cap hit in half by spreading out $8 million over the final four years of his deal which would give the Cowboys an additional $8M in relief.
2013 Cap Savings: $8M

Jay Ratliff
A poor season followed by a DWI accident has put the heat on Ratliff. Expect him to be hesitant, yet coorperative in not just restructing, but totally reconstructing his deal. Right now, Ratliff is guaranteed $6M in Signing Bonus money if he is cut. The Cowboys will agree to increase the guaranteed portion to $10M if Ratliff reduces his cap hit from $7M to $2M in 2013 along with redoing his contract over the same period of time.

Old deal:

2013 $5,000,000 base + $2,000,000 SB = $7,000,000 cap hit
2014 $5,500,000 base + $2,000,000 SB = $7,500,000 cap hit
2015 $7,000,000 base + $2,000,000 SB = $9,000,000 cap hit
2016 $7,500,000 base + $0 SB = $7,500,000 cap hit
2017 $10,000,000 base + $0 SB = $10,000,000 cap hit

New deal:

2013 $200,000 base + $2,000,000 SB = $2,200,000 cap hit
2014 $2,500,000 base + $2,000,000 SB = $4,500,000 cap hit
2015 $3,500,000 base + $2,000,000 SB = $5,500,000 cap hit
2016 $7,500,000 base + $2,000,000 SB = $9,500,000 cap hit
2017 $10,000,000 base + $2,000,000 SB = $12,000,000 cap hit
2013 Cap Savings: $5M


Estimated 2013 savings: $20M

Cowboys are now somewhere near the cap limit for 2013, but one player has refused to restructure his contract.


Miles Austin
Austin has hit a wall in discussions with the Dallas Cowboys. The front office wants him to do more than just shuffle money around to save them cap space. They want him to take a dramatic pay cut. Refusing to do so has created tension between parties, and there are rumors that Dallas has put him on the trade block.

D-Unit
02-03-2013, 03:30 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 2 of 8


Early Cuts

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The contract restructuring of Romo, Carr and Ratliff got us back to the salary cap limit, so more decisions will need to be made in order to create usable cap space. The following players are those who I think need to be cut at the start of FA.


Dan Connor
Dallas can save $3M off the cap with his release, so this one is a no brainer. Connor was no better than the guys we brought in off the streets.
2013 Dead Money: $1,350,000


All of these players are currently under contract for 2013, but none of them have guaranteed signing bonus money. So cutting them would create more room under the cap without adding any dead money.

Anthony Armstrong -- $630,000
Chris Jones -- $555,000
Carlton Mitchell -- $555,000
Brandon Underwood -- $555,000
Phillip Tanner -- $555,000
Colin Cochart -- $555,000
Rob Callaway -- $480,000
Ray Dominguez -- $480,000
Ben Bass -- $480,000
Darrion Weems -- $480,000
Andre Smith -- $480,000
Cameron Sheffield -- $480,000
Vince Agnew -- $480,000
Charley Hughlett -- $405,000
Monte Taylor -- $405,000
Tim Benford -- $405,000
Aderious Simmons -- $405,000
Micah Pellerin -- $405,000
Jared Green -- $405,000
Donavon Kemp -- $405,000
Brashton Satele -- $405,000
Nick Stephens -- $405,000
Ikponmwosa Igbinosun -- $405,000


Estimated 2013 Savings: $13,815,000

The Cowboys now have an estimated $14M to spend in FA.

D-Unit
02-03-2013, 03:43 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 3 of 8


Free Agency - Part I

Resigning our own Free Agents

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The Cowboys have some work to do to retain some of their key players entering FA. Here are the players that I'd like to see back. Obviously, not all of these signings will happen before the draft, but more according to the affordable time line. ie. Some may happen after June 1st.

Designate Franchise Tag on Spencer

Anthony Spencer
Using the tag on Spencer is the Cowboys means to giving them extra time to work out a long term deal. With an expected cut of Doug Free and possibly others after June 1st, Spencer may have to wait on a new deal until then. Depending on how things go, the Cowboys still might think Franchising him could be the way to go. The deadline for a new deal occurs in July. Meanwhile, with the current cap space, the Cowboys can do a little spending.


Phil Costa -- $800,000 Cap hit in 2012
Gotta face the music. The team is high on Costa. For the price, I think he returns ready to start. Hopefully he picks up where he left off in Baltimore.

Brian Moorman -- $925,000 Cap hit in 2012
Had no complaints about him and he nailed several nice ones inside the 10 yard line.

L.P. Ladouceur -- $790,000 Cap hit in 2012
Safety net. No need to mess with what's not broken.

Ernie Sims -- $700,000 Cap hit in 2012
Earned himself a spot, but let's not kid ourselves about how good he is. Back up fodder.

John Phillips -- $565,000 Cap hit in 2012
I'd like to see him return and get more involved in the offense. Not just being used as a blocker.

Estimated 2013 Spending: $5M

These are the salaries each player made in 2012 and I don't see a significant raise coming to any. Maybe Costa but not by much.

D-Unit
02-03-2013, 04:05 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 4 of 8


Free Agency - Part II


Bringing in new Free Agents

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This offseason, the Cowboys will have to look for the low hanging fruit in Free Agency. Without a whole heck of a lot to spend, they'll be limited to the easy pickin's. So here's a few names that I thought could be reasonable and at least semi-realistic.

S Ronde Barber

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After completing his 16th season in the NFL, and the Bucs clearly in rebuilding mode, Barber is likely leaning towards retirement... BUT his old mentor, Monte Kiffin could be the key to convincing him to prolong his retirement for just a little while longer and join the Cowboys. Barber still has his legs as proven by his 2012 Pro Bowl season. Even PFF grades him as the 2nd highest rated S available in FA, so it wasn't a Pro Bowl season without merit. As the new QB of our secondary, Barber could help expidite the installment of Monte's scheme and be that glue that finally holds the unit together.


His 2012 base salary was $3M with no signing bonus. I think we can compete with that.

Our offer: 2 Years / $7,00,000 - Signing Bonus $3M
2013 - $2M base salary, $1.5M signing bonus.
2014 - $2M base salary, $1.5M signing bonus.


SLB Thomas Howard

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Howard had several highly productive years in Oakland before a collapse in his contract season which lead to his departure as a FA to Cincinnati in in the 2011 offseason. Thomas bounced back successfully finishing with 99 tackles in 15 starts that year. But in 2012, he tore his ACL in Week 1, and combined with his age (30), these factors are sure to impact his stock in free agency. This is the kind of low cost, stop gap solution that the Cowboys should try to bank on. Thomas has spent his entire career in the 4-3 at both WLB and SLB. Standing 6'3, 245 he is the kind of low risk investment that could provide nice dividends. He would allow us to ease in Wilber and not have to count on a rookie to start. He might chose Dallas for a chance to return to his home state too!

His 2012 base salary was $1.5M with no signing bonus.

Our offer: 2 Years / $2,500,000 - Signing Bonus $0
2013 - $1M base salary, no signing bonus.
2014 - $1.5M base salary, no signing bonus.


DT Sedrick Ellis

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After being drafted as one of the premier 3 tech prospects, Ellis has mostly gone on to be a bust... and he wasn't a lot of help as the Saints were at the bottom of the league against the run. Saints fans are already looking at future replacements in the draft... BUT he is still relatively young, and the Cowboys don't have a lot of money to spend, so he could be affordable. If Marinelli can work some magic, there might still be a chance for Ellis to still realize his talent. Despite a rocky career, Ellis did stand out as a pass rusher accumulating 20 QB Hurries last season. In quick comparison, top FA DT Henry Melton had 24 QBH. The Cowboys already have pretty good run stuffing guys, but we need a front 4 that can generate pressure. I'm willing to take a risk on him for added depth.

His 2012 base salary was $5.8M with no signing bonus. He won't be getting near that much in the open market. Going to base his contract off the one we gave Marcus Spears. Similar players (former 1st rounders who were generally a bust, but still serviceable - potential tick in upside)

Our offer: 4 Years - Based on Marcus Spears contract (5 yr(s) / $19,200,000 Signing Bonus $3,500,000)

2013 - $750,000 base salary, 700,000 signing bonus.
2014 - $2,000,000 base salary, 700,000 signing bonus.
2015 - $2,000,000 base salary, 700,000 signing bonus.
2016 - $3,000,000 base salary, 700,000 signing bonus.
2017 - $4,000,000 base salary, 700,000 signing bonus.


CB Sheldon Brown

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Brown's career is trademarked by his physicality at the CB position, a trait endeared by new DC Monte Kiffin. This offseason Brown is a FA looking for a contract that takes him into his 12th season in the NFL and ESPN Cleveland's Tony Grossi says impending free agent CB Sheldon Brown "won't be back" with the Browns. The Browns want to get better longevity from the position. My guess is that no team in the NFL will want to sign Brown as a starter, so his pay day won't be big. However, as a backup we may have the inside track with former Browns secondary coach Jerome Henderson now with the Cowboys. Henderson spoke very highly of Brown in his time in Cleveland, especially as a mentor. See 3:02 of this clip for Henderson's thoughts on Brown.

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Brown would be great for Claiborne as he was for Haden. Some part time work might keep him fresh too, as Brown played 900+ snaps last season. PFF rated his performace as the 4th best FA CB. Not too shabby.

His 2012 base salary was $3.7M with $1.6M signing bonus. He won't get that much at this stage of his career as that was the last year of a backloaded contract.

Our offer: 2 Years / $4,000,000 - Signing Bonus $2
2013 - $1M base salary, $1M signing bonus.
2014 - $1M base salary, $1M signing bonus.


Estimated 2013 Spending: $8M

leroyisgod
02-03-2013, 04:23 PM
Mehhh on Barber and Howard

D-Unit
02-03-2013, 04:28 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 5 of 8

The Draft

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Round 1

TRADE - LG Chance Warmack, Alabama -- 6'2, 322

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We trade our 1st and a future 2nd rounder to move up and secure Warmack. Garrett could go into the draft well prepared mentally to easily dispose of future draft picks because in the end, it may not matter to him if he's fired at the end of the season. You can bet he'll be aggressive in getting his top target. ...and if that isn't Warmack, then he deserves to be canned. lol.


Round 2

WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia -- 5'9, 175

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OH OH, say waaaat?!! Surprise, a typical Jerry pick right here. After being forced to take an offensive lineman in round 1, Jerry feels the need to take a name off the top of his "Sexy List". We've seen the trend of WRs falling in the draft (or draftniks overrating them to begin with), and Austin's size could definitely make him a player on the board when we are up to draft in Round 2. Tavon also plays right into Romo's strength as a QB. Romo hates throwing into tight windows even when we have big physical WRs to beat 1 on 1 coverage. So why draft a big physical WR? Romo has his big target in Witten. Tavon on the other hand, has the ability to create space between him and a defender, and Romo will love that. He also could be the recipient of many of Romo's dump offs (which he has seeminly grown to love - often appearing to be captain checkdown) OR get the nod from Jason to utilize his 4.3 speed on a vertical go route. With this pick the Cowboys could end up replacing their slot WR without having to change the name on the back of the jersey. By cutting Miles, the Cowboys save almost $6M. If you think a DT should be taken here, consider that cutting Ratliff only saves $1M. Money talks.


Round 3

OT Menelik Watson, Florida State -- 6'6, 320

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Back to the OL in Round 3. Watson is extremely raw and at times showed it(see Bowl game), but in many other instances he flashed pure dominance! If he can work out his inconsistencies as he continues to learn the position, Watson could end up becoming one of the best in the business. This multi-sport athlete is in the mold of Tyron Smith and is one of my favorite prospects in the whole entire draft.

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Like Miles Austin, Doug Free should be very worried about June 1st. Watson will battle Parnell for the chance to start.


Round 4

RB Jawan Jamison, Rutgers -- 5'8, 200

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If the message isn't clear yet, it should be now. Jason Garrett is panicking or majorly determined (how ever you wanna look at it) to make this offense as potent as possible. Fielding multiple game breakers on offense. He's gonna do everything in his power to make sure he can't be blamed for an anemic offense in 2013. This is his 4th offensive pick in the first 4 rounds. He knows his slack is gone and another failed season is the end to his dream job so beefing up the offensive side of the ball is his main priority. Jamison would be the ideal type of RB to add to our our rushing attack. Diminutive at an advantage, his thunder thighs, balance and juke ability make him a tough object to spot and stop.


Round 5

S Earl Wolff, NC State -- 5'11, 206

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The Cowboys signing of Ronde Barber eliminated the need to use a high draft pick on a Safety, but the Cowboys still need to retool, so the scouts get to make use of their heavy homework. NC State's Wolff is one of those guys who flies under the draft radar, and when the Cowboys draft him, you ask yourself, "who?". Then when you find out more about him, he's easy to fall in love with! His coach calls him the heart of their defense. He's a team motivator, leader and his job at Safety has made it easy for his teammate, David Amerson to take more risks and be a big time playmaker. If the Cowboys can get Safeties that allow their Corners to make plays on the ball, then the music will really start to harmonize on D.

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Round 6

DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia -- 6'4, 264

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I really like the pass rushing skillset that Washington possesses. He's got long arms, flexible hips and plays with typical Georgia Bulldogs violence. That said he is a tweener and there are major concerns about his run stuffing ability. Learning from Ware and Spencer who are similarly sized should be a big boost to his learning curve as he works through his weaknesses. As of now, he's strictly a part time player as a pass rushing specialist. He was also voted a team captain by the coaching staff, and we know Garrett likes that. Definitely a player worth grooming who will also give us depth at DE.

Below is an excerpt from nflmocks.com:

"I canít emphasize this enough; I donít think Washington will be an every down player in the NFL. He is terrible against the run, and, at this point, itís safe to assume he always will be. That being said, I think he has a bright future as a purely situational pass rusher in the NFL. I think heís a guy who can get at 8-10 sacks a year playing exclusively on third downs that also has the potential to dominate in coverage against many of the NFLís tight ends. Heís a role player, but a pretty good one, who can give a team some nice snaps when asked. And heís worth keeping an eye on." -- NFL Mocks
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Draft Recap
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Round 1: OG Chance Warmack
Round 2: WR Tavon Austin
Round 3: RT Menelik Watson
Round 4: RB Jawan Jaimison
Round 5: S Earl Wolff
Round 6: DE Cornelius Washington


* Player availablity based on nfldraftscout.com's round estimates
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D-Unit
02-03-2013, 04:31 PM
Mehhh on Barber and Howard
So that means you like everything else so far? SWEET! lol

It's all good man. Trying to stay within our means and still find decent fits.

D-Unit
02-03-2013, 04:32 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 6 of 8


Undrafted Free Agency

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Over the years, UDFA has been pretty kind to the Dallas Cowboys... from big names like Tony Romo and Miles Austin to smaller names like Barry Church, Phil Costa, Lance Dunbar, Phillip Tanner, Cole Beasley and Ronald Leary, the Cowboys have found a place for hidden talent to groom. This year, many are brought in again, but only a few make the 53 man roster.


MLB Jonathan Stewart, Texas A&M -- 6'4, 245

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Every season it seems like the Cowboys find a player or two through their annual "Dallas Day" event. The Dallas Day allows the Cowboys Coaches and Executives to meet with players who have ties to the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Up to a maximum of 30 players can attend, but not workout. This year, Jonathan Stewart finds his way to the Cowboys after not being picked in the draft. Cool article on Stewart: http://www.12thmanfoundation.com/membership/12th-man-magazine-articles/history-buff.aspx


RB Matthew Tucker, TCU -- 6'1, 219

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Another Dallas Day standout, Tucker finds his way on the squad by beating out Dunbar and Tanner. Tucker is a big back who flashes straight line power, good balance and isn't taken down easily. He had a down season slowed by an ankle injury, but overall has had a nice career at TCU, finishing 10th on TCU's all-time rushing list with 2,602 yards. He ranks third with 33 rushing touchdowns.


WR Zach Rogers, Tennessee -- 6'0, 180

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New WR coach Derek Dooley knows all about Zach Rogers and he is a big fan. One of those guys that gives his best effort every minute of the day. You can bet the light will go on in Dooley's head when he hears about the type of player Jason Garrett seeks.

pocketaces
02-03-2013, 04:35 PM
So that means you like everything else so far? SWEET! lol

It's all good man. Trying to stay within our means and still find decent fits.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to D-Unit again.

Love it D! My draft will be different but love your work

D-Unit
02-03-2013, 04:52 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 7 of 8


June 1st Cuts

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With the draft completed, the Cowboys have a better idea of their options in regards to keeping or cutting players. Here are the names of the players who they should cut on June 1st.


Doug Free
Oh what a blunder. How did he collapse so fast? His cap hit goes from $3.2M last season to $9M next season. Bye Bye Doug Free. Cutting Free will save the Cowboys $7M. However, they will still owe him $2M per season in each of the next 3 years (dead money). Ouch.
2013 Cap Savings: $7M

Gerald Sensabaugh
Cutting Sensabaugh saves the Cowboys $3M dollars in 2013. They will still be penalized $750K in each of the next 3 seasons (dead money), but that's not back breaking.
2013 Cap Savings: $3M

Marcus Spears
Rather than pay him $2.7M next season to be a back up, it's worth it to take the $700K cap hit next season. Overall we save $9M left on his contract and only pay the $700K cap hit in each of the next 3 years. Dead money.
2013 Cap Savings: $2M

Mackenzy Bernadeau
Bernadeau will have his 2013 base salary increase from $1.75 million to $2.25 million because of incentives in his contract. Unfortunately for him, that becomes back breaking for the Cowboys. Combines with his signing bonus, that would make him the highest paid offensive lineman, more than Smith and Warmack... and more than a lot of other more valuable players. Cowboys can't afford that for a guy who will be a backup. $812,500 in dead money over the next 3 years.
2013 Cap Savings: $2.25M


Estimated 2013 Cap Savings: $14M


The Cowboys find themselves with some money left to work the contracts for Spencer and Austin. Let's see what they do.

Anthony Spencer
Spencer has finally won our hearts. We've been saying he'd be better in the 4-3 for years now. This is our chance to see. The Cowboys commit to Spencer by giving him a new 5 year deal that starts with a $6M dollar cap hit in 2013.
2013 Cap Hit: $6M

Miles Austin
After the offseason action, Austin softens his stance with the Cowboys. Not wishing to move on at the threat of getting cut and finding a new team, Austin mans up and reconstructs his contract. He'll be getting a lot less money over the term of his contract but will make more guaranteed money. So if the Cowboys threaten to cut him in the future, he will walk away with more than he would this season.
Using the estimate that Trogdor used in his mock.
2013 Cap Hit: $2.4M

Trogdor
02-03-2013, 04:56 PM
Love Warmock, Watson, and Jamison in the draft. I hope the flash pick in round two doesn't happen but I can see it. I actually love our slot receiver potential in Beasley and Coale. Watson I agree might be my favorite non-guard prospect. Insane potential but I can see his stock soaring after the combine. Jamison is one of my favorite mid-round RBs although I love Ray Graham more-so :)

Still:

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As far as beyond the draft. I think Ronde will probably retire if he doesn't stay in Tampa. Been a heck of a career there I can't imagine him wanting to pack it up and head to Dallas at the extreme twilight of his career. Decent move although are you planning keeping both Sensy and making the move on Ronde?

Ellis and Brown are excellent pickups and Howard would be a option but only if he accepts a low-cost contract.

Lastly LOVE Stewart from A&M. He's got the intelligence to fit right in with our linebacking core.

Good stuff :)

D-Unit
02-03-2013, 05:43 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 8 of 8

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2013 53 Man Roster

Offense

QB Tony Romo | Kyle Orton

RB DeMarco Murray | Jawan Jamison |Matthew Tucker
FB Lawrence Vickers

WR Dez Bryant | Danny Coale
WR Miles Austin | Dwayne Harris | Zach Rogers
SWR Tavon Austin | Cole Beasley

TE Jason Witten | John Phillips | James Hanna

LT Tyron Smith | Jeremy Parnell
LG Chance Warmack | David Arkin
OC Phil Costa | Ryan Cook
RG Nate Livings | Ron Leary
RT Menelik Watson | Jeremy Parnell


Defense

DE DeMarcus Ware | Cornelius Washington
UT Jay Ratliff | Sedrick Ellis
NT Jason Hatcher | Sean Lissemore
DE Anthony Spencer | Tyrone Crawford

WLB Bruce Carter | Ernie Sims
MLB Sean Lee | Jonathan Stewart
SLB Thomas Howard |Kyle Wilber

CB Brandon Carr | Sterling Moore
CB Morris Claiborne | Sheldon Brown
NB Orlando Scandrick
SS Barry Church | Matt Johnson
FS Ronde Barber | Earl Wolff


Special Teams

K Dan Bailey
P Brian Moorman
LS L.P. Ladouceur
KR Dwayne Harris
PR Tavon Austin

IR Brian Price
NFI Josh Brent



2013 Dallas Cowboys Salary

Offense

Tony Romo - $10,000,000
Kyle Orton - $3,016,667
DeMarco Murray - $810,813
Jason Witten - $8,000,000
Dez Bryant - $3,882,500
Tyron Smith - $3,408,027
Nate Livings - $2,400,000
Miles Austin - $2,400,000
Chance Warmack - $2,197,120
Jeremy Parnell - $1,356,421
Lawrence Vickers - $1,300,000
Ryan Cook - $1,250,000
Phil Costa - $1,000,000
John Phillips - $790,000
Tavon Austin - $734,200
David Arkin - $680,000
Dwayne Harris - $555,000
Menelik Watson - $533,813
James Hanna - $506,213
Jawan Jamison - $499,800
Cole Beasley - $480,000
Ron Leary - $480,000
Danny Coale - $405,000
Matthew Tucker - $390,000
Zach Rogers - $390,000

TOTAL - $47,465,574


Defense

DeMarcus Ware - $12,221,750
Brandon Carr - $8,300,000
Anthony Spencer - $6,000,000
Orlando Scandrick - $3,780,000
Morris Claiborne - $3,696,478
Jay Ratliff - $3,000,000
Ronde Barber - $3,000,000
Jason Hatcher - $2,833,333
Sheldon Brown - $2,000,000
Sedrick Ellis - $1,450,000
Barry Church - $1,323,000
Bruce Carter - $1,273,827
Sean Lissemore - $1,042,150
Thomas Howard - $1,000,000
Sean Lee - $875,000
Ernie Sims - $700,000
Tyrone Crawford - $623,813
Kyle Wilber - $589,800
Josh Brent - $586,887
Matt Johnson - $555,146
Brian Price - $555,000
Sterling Moore - $555,000
Earl Wolff - $437,900
Cornelius Washington - $416,213
Jonathan Stewart - $390,000

TOTAL - $57,205,297


Special Teams

Brian Moorman - $925,000
L.P. Ladouceur - $790,000
Dan Bailey - $555,833

TOTAL: $2,270,833


2013 Dead Money

Doug Free - $2,000,000
Dan Connor - $1,350,000
Mackenzy Bernadeau - $812,000
Gerald Sensabaugh - $750,000
Marcus Spears - $700,000
Danny Coale - $142,539
Shaun Chapas - $28,426
Bill Nagy - $11,475
Levy Adcock - $6,000
Ron Leary - $6,000

TOTAL - $5,806,440


OFFENSE TOTAL - $47,465,574
DEFENSE TOTAL - $57,205,297
SPECIAL TEAMS TOTAL - $2,270,833
DEAD MONEY TOTAL - $5,806,440
TOTAL 2013 SALARY - $112,748,144


2013 NFL SALARY CAP - $121,000,000
2013 DALLAS COWBOYS 2013 SALARY - $112,748,144
2013 DALLAS COWBOYS CAP SPACE - $8,251,856


Conclusion

On offense, Jason Garrett has received an infusion of young, but NFL ready talent through the draft. The Offensive line was bolstered with the addition of 2 upper tier talents by using 2 of our first 3 picks on OL. The running game is no longer a solely dependent on Demarco Murray's health. At WR Romo is fricken loaded with weapons since Miles Austin decided to bite the bullet and take a pay cut. Dez is the unquestioned #1 WR. Dwayne Harris is entering that ever significant "3rd year" and Tavon Austin is the shining cherry on top. He is the perfect type of WR for this offense because he fits what Romo looks for (separation) and he has the game breaking ability to make things happen after the catch. We have playmakers everywhere and an OL to make it happen. We also have quality depth and lots of youth to develop (except at QB - but with college QBs more prepared to start these days, it's not as huge of a concern).

On defense, I felt the need was more necessary to use our Free Agent dollars on that side of the ball because our coaching staff needs players who are already familiar them and can help them make the conversion to the 4-3 more smoothly. You just can't expect the same kind of impact with rookies. Ronde Barber is a Kiffin guy through and through and will be the QB of the secondary to provide instant leadership for the whole defense. Aside from a rejuvination project effort in Sedrick Ellis, the other FAs are mostly there as stop gap solutions as the team fills holes that they are unable to do via the draft. However, that makes this defense more experienced and more ready to compete at a high level, and simultaneously provide leadership and mentoring to the younger players. With many solid veterans playing on defense, that has proven over time as one of the stronger factors that can carry teams deep into the playoffs...all the way to the top!

The key to success is how well this coaching staff can come together and push the right buttons. A big question mark in it's own right.

That was fun! :) If you see anything that looks like a mistake or too unreasonable, please kindly let me know. All comments appreciated. Thanks!

D-Unit
02-04-2013, 01:35 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to D-Unit again.

Love it D! My draft will be different but love your work
Thanks pocketrockets! Anxious to see your mock.

D-Unit
02-04-2013, 01:40 AM
Love Warmock, Watson, and Jamison in the draft. I hope the flash pick in round two doesn't happen but I can see it. I actually love our slot receiver potential in Beasley and Coale. Watson I agree might be my favorite non-guard prospect. Insane potential but I can see his stock soaring after the combine. Jamison is one of my favorite mid-round RBs although I love Ray Graham more-so :)

Still:

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As far as beyond the draft. I think Ronde will probably retire if he doesn't stay in Tampa. Been a heck of a career there I can't imagine him wanting to pack it up and head to Dallas at the extreme twilight of his career. Decent move although are you planning keeping both Sensy and making the move on Ronde?

Ellis and Brown are excellent pickups and Howard would be a option but only if he accepts a low-cost contract.

Lastly LOVE Stewart from A&M. He's got the intelligence to fit right in with our linebacking core.

Good stuff :)
Glad to hear you had some thoughts you agreed with. The thought that Ronde would not want to play for another team definitely came across my mind, but I kept thinking about how John Lynch and Warren Sapp were able to move on and with him still playing at a high level, I thought he wouldn't want to play for the Bucs if he didn't believe they were real threats. Joining Monte was the kicker for me. You're probably right, but in the 1% chance he did leave, I think we would be a team he'd have to consider if we pursued him.

CowboysBeastMode
02-04-2013, 02:52 AM
i'd rather see brown and barber in valley ranch as coaches rather than players, but i can't argue at all with the talent pool from the draft good job there (even though i would smh if jj sacrificed a 2 next year to move to get warmack) but he likes to wheel deal so you never know

D-Unit
02-04-2013, 12:16 PM
i'd rather see brown and barber in valley ranch as coaches rather than players, but i can't argue at all with the talent pool from the draft good job there (even though i would smh if jj sacrificed a 2 next year to move to get warmack) but he likes to wheel deal so you never know
Is that cause you think Brown and Barber have little left in the tank?

leroyisgod
02-04-2013, 12:34 PM
So that means you like everything else so far? SWEET! lol

It's all good man. Trying to stay within our means and still find decent fits.

I do like the rest

leroyisgod
02-04-2013, 12:36 PM
2013 Dallas Cowboys Offseason - Part 5 of 8

The Draft

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Round 1

TRADE - LG Chance Warmack, Alabama -- 6'2, 322

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We trade our 1st and a future 2nd rounder to move up and secure Warmack. Garrett could go into the draft well prepared mentally to easily dispose of future draft picks because in the end, it may not matter to him if he's fired at the end of the season. You can bet he'll be aggressive in getting his top target. ...and if that isn't Warmack, then he deserves to be canned. lol.


Round 2

WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia -- 5'9, 175

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OH OH, say waaaat?!! Surprise, a typical Jerry pick right here. After being forced to take an offensive lineman in round 1, Jerry feels the need to take a name off the top of his "Sexy List". We've seen the trend of WRs falling in the draft (or draftniks overrating them to begin with), and Austin's size could definitely make him a player on the board when we are up to draft in Round 2. Tavon also plays right into Romo's strength as a QB. Romo hates throwing into tight windows even when we have big physical WRs to beat 1 on 1 coverage. So why draft a big physical WR? Romo has his big target in Witten. Tavon on the other hand, has the ability to create space between him and a defender, and Romo will love that. He also could be the recipient of many of Romo's dump offs (which he has seeminly grown to love - often appearing to be captain checkdown) OR get the nod from Jason to utilize his 4.3 speed on a vertical go route. With this pick the Cowboys could end up replacing their slot WR without having to change the name on the back of the jersey. By cutting Miles, the Cowboys save almost $6M. If you think a DT should be taken here, consider that cutting Ratliff only saves $1M. Money talks.


Round 3

OT Menelik Watson, Florida State -- 6'6, 320

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Back to the OL in Round 3. Watson is extremely raw and at times showed it(see Bowl game), but in many other instances he flashed pure dominance! If he can work out his inconsistencies as he continues to learn the position, Watson could end up becoming one of the best in the business. This multi-sport athlete is in the mold of Tyron Smith and is one of my favorite prospects in the whole entire draft.

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Like Miles Austin, Doug Free should be very worried about June 1st. Watson will battle Parnell for the chance to start.


Round 4

RB Jawan Jamison, Rutgers -- 5'8, 200

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If the message isn't clear yet, it should be now. Jason Garrett is panicking or majorly determined (how ever you wanna look at it) to make this offense as potent as possible. Fielding multiple game breakers on offense. He's gonna do everything in his power to make sure he can't be blamed for an anemic offense in 2013. This is his 4th offensive pick in the first 4 rounds. He knows his slack is gone and another failed season is the end to his dream job so beefing up the offensive side of the ball is his main priority. Jamison would be the ideal type of RB to add to our our rushing attack. Diminutive at an advantage, his thunder thighs, balance and juke ability make him a tough object to spot and stop.


Round 5

S Earl Wolff, NC State -- 5'11, 206

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The Cowboys signing of Ronde Barber eliminated the need to use a high draft pick on a Safety, but the Cowboys still need to retool, so the scouts get to make use of their heavy homework. NC State's Wolff is one of those guys who flies under the draft radar, and when the Cowboys draft him, you ask yourself, "who?". Then when you find out more about him, he's easy to fall in love with! His coach calls him the heart of their defense. He's a team motivator, leader and his job at Safety has made it easy for his teammate, David Amerson to take more risks and be a big time playmaker. If the Cowboys can get Safeties that allow their Corners to make plays on the ball, then the music will really start to harmonize on D.

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Round 6

DE Cornelius Washington, Georgia -- 6'4, 264

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I really like the pass rushing skillset that Washington possesses. He's got long arms, flexible hips and plays with typical Georgia Bulldogs violence. That said he is a tweener and there are major concerns about his run stuffing ability. Learning from Ware and Spencer who are similarly sized should be a big boost to his learning curve as he works through his weaknesses. As of now, he's strictly a part time player as a pass rushing specialist. He was also voted a team captain by the coaching staff, and we know Garrett likes that. Definitely a player worth grooming who will also give us depth at DE.

Below is an excerpt from nflmocks.com:





Draft Recap
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Round 1: OG Chance Warmack
Round 2: WR Tavon Austin
Round 3: RT Menelik Watson
Round 4: RB Jawan Jaimison
Round 5: S Earl Wolff
Round 6: DE Cornelius Washington


* Player availablity based on nfldraftscout.com's round estimates
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I'm a big fan of Austin. I think that Harris is ready to step into the shoes as a #2 and this leaves Austin to come in and compete for the slot position.

Since you gave up a future 2nd round pick, I'm happy with going up to get Warmack.

CowboysBeastMode
02-04-2013, 12:56 PM
Is that cause you think Brown and Barber have little left in the tank?basically, at some point i would expect noticeable drop off, barber been effective at safety and brown is seemingly still starting in the league but i think signing those guys and not getting younger player to groom under them is playing russian roulette. especially with brown if he ever got pressed into serious playing time he will get exposed in this division. i just think his best days are behind him

plus the 4th corner figures to be a core special teams player as well not sure brown can handle or would be willing to embrace that role at his age

D-Unit
02-04-2013, 01:30 PM
basically, at some point i would expect noticeable drop off, barber been effective at safety and brown is seemingly still starting in the league but i think signing those guys and not getting younger player to groom under them is playing russian roulette. especially with brown if he ever got pressed into serious playing time he will get exposed in this division. i mean he couldn't even cover dwayne harris and that was with romo running for his life most of that game, imagine if he could set his feet

plus the 4th corner figures to be a core special teams player as well not sure brown can handle or would be willing to embrace that role at his age
Both were stop gap solutions. I think Carr and Claiborne are young enough that I didn't need to invest in a pick to necessarily "groom" someone. Perhaps in 2014 or UDFA could produce someone like that. Cheap FA pick ups are always out there, but Barber and Brown provide more that experience that I think would be a criticial part of solidifying the defense.

Brown played over 900 snaps and still rated out pretty high last season, so even though he might've struggled versus Harris, I think that was just a small sample size. Would be a good mentor behind Claiborne and is only needed to provide pot help.

But basically, I tried to find guys that are familiar with our coaching staff and would fit the scheme and what we're trying to do. Cause I think that tends to be a strong factor when you look at the history of the league and how free agents tend to make decisions.

dsc1600
02-04-2013, 04:25 PM
The last thing we should be doing is giving up 2nd rd picks. We're not 1 player away.

D-Unit
02-04-2013, 06:01 PM
The last thing we should be doing is giving up 2nd rd picks. We're not 1 player away.
Thanks for the response. I agree with you.

But let me defend anyways... In that case it wasn't my mindset that it was something we "should" do, but it was something I could see Garrett doing. If he fails next season he won't be caring much about that lost 2nd rounder.

...and we weren't 1 player away last year when we traded our 2nd rounder to get Claiborne. You know Jerry just LOVED the attention that that move got him last year. Grinning from ear to ear. They all were and they loved capturing the draft headlines too.

If he can do a similar thing, I think it's within reason he might do it again. Is there a player we need more in the draft other than Warmack? I don't think so. Do you?

Anything you like about the mock?

pocketaces
02-04-2013, 06:27 PM
Thanks for the response. I agree with you.

But let me defend anyways... In that case it wasn't my mindset that it was something we "should" do, but it was something I could see Garrett doing. If he fails next season he won't be caring much about that lost 2nd rounder.

...and we weren't 1 player away last year when we traded our 2nd rounder to get Claiborne. You know Jerry just LOVED the attention that that move got him last year. Grinning from ear to ear. They all were and they loved capturing the draft headlines too.

If he can do a similar thing, I think it's within reason he might do it again. Is there a player we need more in the draft other than Warmack? I don't think so. Do you?

Anything you like about the mock?

Big difference between trading up for the best defensive player in the draft and trading up for a guard though, right? if anything I'd be looking to trade down unless somebody slides

HEISMANHERSCHEL
02-04-2013, 09:54 PM
First off, I don't understand the cap thing. Every time I try my head starts to hurt. Very impressed with you guys that do. But it was interesting to me that I was listening to Norm on the ticket the other day, and he made it sound as if there was a way for the the boys to come up with something like $16 mill to spend in free agency. I don't know cause I don't understand it, but I know that he does.

Now to D-Unit. I always feel uncomfortable pointing out things that I differ on you with, but. There were several things I didn't like.

#1 I would not cut Tanner. I think he is serviceable.

#2 I would not sign Thomas Howard or Ronde Barber. Barber will slow down sometime very soon. I don't want him when he does, and it may be now. As for Howard, I just don't see him making a difference in any way. Not a horrible signing, but just meh.

#3 Sheldon Brown. I don't see a place for him at all, not to mention he has not impressed me in a while. I just don't get it. CB is not a spot that I think needs to be tinkered with. I thought we did that last year? This seems right in line with what we always do. Address a position, then address it over and over and over...

#4 Here is my big one. I know that you said it is not what you would do but what you think might happen. Because it makes no sense, you probably nailed it though. Drafting Tavon Austin in the second? Really? So we can't find a starter in the draft in the second round? And we draft a position of strength? I hate this pick when there are offensive line guys that might start. We know Tavon Austin won't. Correct or not? There is no way we draft three OL in a row, I know this. But that is exactly what we should do. Tony is older, we will have to address QB soon, and our rb's will never have a chance to show what they can do until we fix that stupid line.

#5 Probably the only guy that doesn't want to cut Sensebaugh on the entire forum, but cutting him and adding Barber seems like a step in the old direction to me.

#6 I am not so sure Jonathan Stewart won't get drafted.

As far as your draft, you nailed it. I absolutely loved each pick, with the sole exception of Tavon Austin. I just don't see where he would bring that much. I just don't see us as being good enough to draft luxury picks in the second.

At the end of the day, I feel that OL is most important area in football. Some disagree, and I respect that. But ours is broken. We can fix it now for five years and draft sexy players for a long time. It would be a boring draft this year, but wouldn't it be nice?

One more final thought. I loved the Sedrick Ellis signing. That is the exact type of signings we should make. Still has potential if he can figure things out, low risk.

All in all, very solid, as I knew you would be. But these are my individual issues with an otherwise good offseason.

But know if this is what we do, we are talking about OL next year. Do you really want to do that again?

dsc1600
02-05-2013, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the response. I agree with you.

But let me defend anyways... In that case it wasn't my mindset that it was something we "should" do, but it was something I could see Garrett doing. If he fails next season he won't be caring much about that lost 2nd rounder.

...and we weren't 1 player away last year when we traded our 2nd rounder to get Claiborne. You know Jerry just LOVED the attention that that move got him last year. Grinning from ear to ear. They all were and they loved capturing the draft headlines too.

If he can do a similar thing, I think it's within reason he might do it again. Is there a player we need more in the draft other than Warmack? I don't think so. Do you?

Anything you like about the mock?

I got you, this franchise loves to make flashy moves. I think Warmack may fall enough where we can actually pick him at 18 or get him for 3rd or 4th. We shall see. I actually like the Austin pick, I am not sold on going into 2013 with the 3rd WR slot up in the air, especially with how often Miles gets hurt. Depending on how we address the DL in free agency, I'd be more than happy getting a 3rd WR with one of our top picks in the draft.

D-Unit
02-05-2013, 12:32 PM
Big difference between trading up for the best defensive player in the draft and trading up for a guard though, right? if anything I'd be looking to trade down unless somebody slides
Many people are calling Warmack the safest player in the draft and a Top 5 talent. Recognizing he won't be a top 5 pick, I still think he is the best player for us in the whole draft.

It is a bigger cost giving up a 2nd rounder in this draft versus giving up a 2nd rounder in next year's draft. So there's that for you to consider as well. If this team does really well, that 2nd rounder will be much lower in the round.

One thing I tried to do with this mock was lean more towards things being difficult for us to accomplish than easy to accomplish. I didn't want a mock that sided on the "too good to be true" motto. I would love to have said, giving up a future 3rd or 4th rounder to get Warmack would've been enough... but inside I wouldn't be honest with myself.

D-Unit
02-05-2013, 01:23 PM
First off, I don't understand the cap thing. Every time I try my head starts to hurt. Very impressed with you guys that do. But it was interesting to me that I was listening to Norm on the ticket the other day, and he made it sound as if there was a way for the the boys to come up with something like $16 mill to spend in free agency. I don't know cause I don't understand it, but I know that he does.

Now to D-Unit. I always feel uncomfortable pointing out things that I differ on you with, but. There were several things I didn't like.

#1 I would not cut Tanner. I think he is serviceable.

#2 I would not sign Thomas Howard or Ronde Barber. Barber will slow down sometime very soon. I don't want him when he does, and it may be now. As for Howard, I just don't see him making a difference in any way. Not a horrible signing, but just meh.

#3 Sheldon Brown. I don't see a place for him at all, not to mention he has not impressed me in a while. I just don't get it. CB is not a spot that I think needs to be tinkered with. I thought we did that last year? This seems right in line with what we always do. Address a position, then address it over and over and over...

#4 Here is my big one. I know that you said it is not what you would do but what you think might happen. Because it makes no sense, you probably nailed it though. Drafting Tavon Austin in the second? Really? So we can't find a starter in the draft in the second round? And we draft a position of strength? I hate this pick when there are offensive line guys that might start. We know Tavon Austin won't. Correct or not? There is no way we draft three OL in a row, I know this. But that is exactly what we should do. Tony is older, we will have to address QB soon, and our rb's will never have a chance to show what they can do until we fix that stupid line.

#5 Probably the only guy that doesn't want to cut Sensebaugh on the entire forum, but cutting him and adding Barber seems like a step in the old direction to me.

#6 I am not so sure Jonathan Stewart won't get drafted.

As far as your draft, you nailed it. I absolutely loved each pick, with the sole exception of Tavon Austin. I just don't see where he would bring that much. I just don't see us as being good enough to draft luxury picks in the second.

At the end of the day, I feel that OL is most important area in football. Some disagree, and I respect that. But ours is broken. We can fix it now for five years and draft sexy players for a long time. It would be a boring draft this year, but wouldn't it be nice?

One more final thought. I loved the Sedrick Ellis signing. That is the exact type of signings we should make. Still has potential if he can figure things out, low risk.

All in all, very solid, as I knew you would be. But these are my individual issues with an otherwise good offseason.

But know if this is what we do, we are talking about OL next year. Do you really want to do that again?
Thanks for taking the time to comment on the mock HH! Your thoughts are always welcomed.

I'll try to comment back on your thoughts.

On Tanner:
The one thing that sticks out to me is that when Murray went down this season, our entire running game went to the crapper. Felix couldn't stay healthy himself and then neither Dunbar and Tanner could really step up and carry the load. I don't want RBs who don't step up when their number is called. He made me a fan in the preseason with his nifty flashes, but I don't really see a lot of substance there.

What are your thoughts on the 3rd RB I added via UDFA in TCU's Matthew Tucker?

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On Howard:
I agree that he is just a meh signing. But he has been a tackle machine when healthy and most of all... he came cheap! He has near prototype size you look for in a SLB and he has experience. Obvious stop gap solution. Didn't want to spend a top pick on SLB because what if Kyle Wilber can be that guy? I only wanted to find a cheap stop gap guy and since Howard is a Texas guy, I liked the possibility of him joining us for cheap.

On Barber:
Like Parcells brought in Terry Glenn, Keyshawn Johnson, Ryan Anderson, Dan Campbell, Jason Ferguson, Aaron Glenn, etc... it wasn't so much for their longevity but for their understanding of how Parcells runs things, their ability to help install his system, their readiness to play and their influence on teammates. Barber could certainly hit the wall this year. But he does know Kiffin's defense and could provide all those things I just mentioned. It'd be nice to have someone Kiffin could lean on as we transition. Barber did defy the odds last year as he had a legitimately worthy Pro Bowl season.

On Brown:
Maybe he was a bad suggestion, but again, I looked at another veteran who was familiar with the staff (in this case DB coach Jerome Henderson) and a guy who won't be commanding a huge salary. Henderson himself has said that Brown was influential to Joe Haden's development. He's the total pro who helped him on and off the field. My thought process was that he would be able to help Claiborne in a similar way. Kind of surprised at the rise this suggestion has gotten from you and others. Especially as a cheap FA depth guy. Brown plays a physical brand of football and the one thing said about Tampa 2 corners... is that they don't need to be great cover guys, but they do need to be able to jam at the line, deliver big hits and be good tacklers. That has been the definition of Brown in his career. ...oh and PFF rated him near the top of their ratings for FA CBs based on last year's play. #4 overall I believe.

On Austin:
If you followed the story carefully, in the beginning Miles Austin wasn't playing Mr. Nice Guy as far as being willing to redo his contract. I think that's reasonable to expect. The Cowboys may ultimately have to cut him. He's not worth the big money that his pay check will currently give him. A lot of people are talking about him needing to restructure, but I think we need more than that. I think we need to readjust his pay and give him less.

One way to build leverage is to show Miles that we are willing to move on without him. Miles has been our main slot guy, and by drafting Tavon, that will be a clear sign that the Cowboys are willing to move on past Miles. If he wants to stay with us great, but he'll need to take a big pay cut. That's what I'm hoping happens.

Lastly, I really do feel like Jason Garrett is gonna go heavy on the offensive side in this year's draft. His neck is clearly on the line. ...and Tavon would definitely not be used sparingly if we drafted him... starter or non starter. The guy is a game breaker.

On Stewart:
As stated, I used the draft round availability based on what nfldraftscout.com predicts. They are generally good at it. I won't be surprised if he was drafted, but I tried to find some gems in UDFA with Texas ties as we would have a possible lean our way from them.

On the OL:
I DEFINITELY agree with you that our OL needs help. But there's no way I would've mocked us going OL with our first 3 picks. I thought 2 out of 3 was the best I could do. Not sure how you say that if this is all we do on the OL, that we'll be doing the same thing next year. Adding Warmack and Watson should help a lot. If Costa fails then we'll know for sure about him, but I really think the team is still high on him. Livings got better as the year progressed and finished the season above my expectations. I really was not digging his signing at first. Hopefully Arkin and Leary can develop into something. ...and I like Parnell as our long term solution as Swing Tackle.

Again, thanks for the comments HH! +rep! Gave me a chance to expand on my thoughts!

D-Unit
02-05-2013, 01:43 PM
I got you, this franchise loves to make flashy moves. I think Warmack may fall enough where we can actually pick him at 18 or get him for 3rd or 4th. We shall see. I actually like the Austin pick, I am not sold on going into 2013 with the 3rd WR slot up in the air, especially with how often Miles gets hurt. Depending on how we address the DL in free agency, I'd be more than happy getting a 3rd WR with one of our top picks in the draft.
Thanks. What do you think about what I said about the pick... in that Tavon fits what Romo likes out of his WRs... "SEPARATION". I felt like there were times the last few seasons where too many times Romo favored dumping the ball off to our #3 WR in favor of throwing to our more bigger, physical WRs in 1 on 1 coverage.

Part of it I think is that he's too afraid of trusting our guys to beat the defender for the ball.. part of it that he's afraid of throwing a pick... and part of it, is that he'd just rather throw to the guy who is the most open (can't fault him for that). Too many times we we're left wondering why Romo doesn't target Dez.. or Austin... but there is something in Romo's head that does that.

Laurent Robinson made a killing off this Romo habit. So I thought that in the perfect world, if Romo is gonna want a WR, that he'd want a guy who can create separation to get open for him, and then have the playmaking ability to get yards after the catch. I thought about the big 6'4 Justin Hunter there.. with the Dooley connection, but then I told myself... Romo doesn't even favor throwing to guys like him. Between the 6'4 Andre Holmes and the 5'8 Cole Beasley... Beasley won out.

thule
02-06-2013, 02:56 AM
This is an update to my prior post. Here are my thoughts as of today. Full breakdown of possible FA targets and Draft targets.

Offseason Thoughts
The big story I need to solve first is what to do with Anthony Spencer. While I think Spencer played at a top 5 level last year...it was a contract year and we have guys on the roster that can play his spot at SDE (crawford/hatcher). I'd attach a buyer beware with Spencer although he has been solid...I feel like the on/off switch is on too much for me to give him a new 5 year deal paying him at the top.

Now that leaves another hole to fill during the draft. But like I said above...I'm ok with losing talent level at SDE in Kiffin's scheme. I'd much rather invest our FA dollar into a premier 3 tech. I think finding an interior rusher is our top priority this offseason. Our DT depth was thin last year...moving to a 4-3 makes us thinner. Add the fact that our #1 and #2 DT's from last year have been cited for DWI in the past 6 months. If anyone thinks there is a bigger need on this team they need to do some serious reevaluation. We don't have a 1-tech or a 3-tech at this point week one. Ratliff will have some type of suspension...so right away we have a hole on the DL week 1. I'd like to take care of this ahead of time. This is my reasoning for letting Spencer go.

Instead of paying Spencer lets invest in a premier 3-tech. The top guy is Henry Melton. For those that don't know him he is a former RB. Has only been playing defense since hsi Jr. year at Texas. He's 26 years old coming off his best year. Although he was on a talented DL in chicago he was 3rd in the league in sacks for DT. He's had 13 sacks in the past 2 years...that is the type of production we are going to need to make Kiffin's defense work. As far as how much it's going to cost...I'd think last years DT was Red Bryant and he signed a 5 year 35m contract with 14.5 garunteed. I could see us doing something like 5 year 40m and I'm not sure he'll even be an option but until he resigns with Chicago I'm not going to assume we don't have a shot.

Now we don't have to get Melton but if we don't we'll have money to spend. Here are some names that caught my eye. Some may still be with teams but are potential cap casualties.

It's really a shame that our DT situation has to be with this...because coming into this year we had talent and Brent really looked like he'd be a solid NT especially on a 4 man line. This is a position we could touch in the draft but I'm gonna look at FA to find someone who might be cheap.

FA Options
Isaac Sopoaga, SF, NT - 32 years old set to be a FA SF could look to upgrade youth in the draft

S: Charles Woodson is owed $10 million in 2013 and could be a likely cap casualty

Strong safety is more up in the air after impending free agent Pat Chung fell out of favor in 2012.

underrated strong safety Glover Quin's contract has run out. The Texans do not have a viable in-house alternative. Quin is a top-notch run-support safety and often matches up with opposing tight ends. He'd be tough to replace.

Incumbent starter Shaun Cody is entering free agency

Salary cap woes may force Newsome to part with Anquan Boldin ($6 million salary)

left end Robert Geathers' place cincy

free safety Chris Clemons is a free agent mia

nose guard Roy Miller is an unrestricted free agent

The Rams will need new starting safety if they release Quintin Mikell, which is expected.

stl strong-side 'backer Rocky McIntosh's contract has run out

RB Javon Ringer is a free agent

Right end Glenn Dorsey is a free agent, and left end Tyson Jackson is a likely cap casualty due to a massive $14.72 million base salary.

Stalwart strong-side 'backer Daryl Smith is a free agent after an injury-ruined season.

Impending free agent Shonn Greene head-scratchingly set a career high for carries in 2012 despite rushing for a career-worst yards per attempt. He's not expected back

Free agent Dustin Keller has all but begged out of New York and will likely depart for greener pastures.

Calvin Pace will almost certainly be cut. Safety is yet another problem area as starters LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell head to free agency.

Strong-side linebacker Philip Wheeler was the Raiders' only quality starter at this position a year ago.

FA Signings
NT Roy Miller - Miller was part of that terrible defense we saw last year in Tampa Bay. However I remember scouting Miller he's still young and he had some impressive numbers coming out. At 6'2 320lbs he has the size to play the 1 tech. He has been dealing with some injuries the past couple of years...with a clean bill of health he could be our starting NT for 2013. He shouldn't cost much a 4 year deal for 16 mil??
Backup Plan: Shaun Cody, Tyson Jackson

S Charles Woodson - Woodson is due 10m this year. GB is looking to give new deals to Arod, Mathews and Raji. At 37 years old he'd be coming to dallas to finish his career. He is a game changer and would be a good veteran signing to add some veteran leadership to the safety role. This would also make Sensy expendable imo so you could get some money back to help sign Woodson. 2 year deal worth 10-12m might be what it takes and I think it's worth it if you take a look who is out there.
Backup Plan: Pat Chung, Glover Quin, Chris Clemons, Quintin Mikell, LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell

LDE Robert Geathers - I am not sure if this is a need or not I think a guy like Crawford or Albright might be able to handle this spot..but I'd like to sure it up with someone who can stop the run. Reminds me of a Red Bryant signing last year by the Seahawks. Not going to generate lots of stats but is solid against the run and the pass. Think insurance policy. 3 year deal worth 18m. That might not be enough for a DE but with guys like Spencer, Kruger, and Avril potentially all on the market he shouldn't be a first tier DE to go.
Backup Plan: Calvin Pace would be an option but not sure it's even worth the contract since he's coming from a 3-4...could just slow progression if he can't earn starting role.

WR/TE Anquan Boldin - Boldin is 32 years old and is due 6 million this year. If he doesn't restructure he is the guy I want to bring in on offense. His production in the red zone doesn't look to be slowing down and he wouldn't need to play a big role here. Help Tony and the offense put up more TD's in the red zone. He's esentially to me a 2nd TE to split wide. I'd give him a 3 year deal around $12m.
Backup Plan: Dustin Keller might be someone to look at. Hannah looked good at the end of the year but our coaching staff sure didn't do a good job selling him to us. Keller would give us another TE to stretch the field and put pressure on the middle of the field. He'd be the Hernadez and Witten the Gronk. Food for thought. I don't think WR is a need but if Boldin were to be cut by the Ravens i think it'd make a lot of sense to bring him in to use him in the red zone. Plus Miles/Dez aren't guarantees to make it through the year anyways. Nice safety net that wouldn't prohibit development of the other guys since they play different roles.

RB Javon Ringer - Ringer is coming off of a in which he didn't play 3/4 of last season. Had a MCL sprain. If he is available he'd be a nice short yardage guy and add a different dimension from Dunbar. Tanner would be replaced by Ringer in this scenario. Not sure what it'd take to sign him...but a 2-3 year deal in the 7-9m range might be enough for a RB coming off a knee injury. He had a pretty good year in 2011.
Backup Plan: Shonn Greene is another name that I like because he's reliable and can play a role here.

SLB - I didn't address this in FA because I don't really feel like there is enough money to go to this position even though I like some names in FA.
Backup Plan: If we do go this direction these names make sense. Rocky McIntosh is a name I like...might not be a great fit but wouldn't have to play a lot of passing downs so could just play base packages. Daryl Smith from Jax is another option but like I said above...not sure we want to invest FA money in SLB if we address needs like we did above. I feel like if we don't add a Safety in FA we could add SLB. Philip Wheeler out of Oakland would be a great fit but he's suppose to be their #2 target to get resigned this offseason.

I always like to start off looking at the weight of the draft. Find which positions we can find later vs. what positions we need to address earlier.

Draft Prospects per our Needs

DT - 3 Tech
STAR LOTULELEI
SHELDON RICHARDSON
SHARIF FLOYD*
KAWANN SHORT
SYLVESTER WILLIAMS
AKEEM SPENCE*
JORDAN HILL

3-tech class looks solid for about the first 50 picks of the draft. Anywhere in that range I feel like you can get a starter. Richardson is the only guy who I feel is a must take if he's on the board at 18. Might even be worth a future pick to move up a few spots to secure him. He is just so explosive...watching other prospects you just feel like Richardson is a man amoungst boys. He's constantly slashing into the backfield. Need to be sold watch the Alabama tape. He gets hurt comes back gets burned in the 2nd quarter a couple of times...then really turns it on at the end of the game. Thought it showed a lot competitiveness and I see elite potential here. I like others in the list Star will likely be gone, I like Floyd but don't value versatility as much as I do playmaking which is why I'm higher on Richardson. Short is another guy I am really high on. The depth of this position is why I didn't even address it in FA. We should be able to get a starter with our first 2 picks and a few good names to choose from. Williams and Hill would be good consolation prises if we went another position with our first pick.

S
KENNY VACCARO
MATT ELAM*
JONATHAN CYPRIEN
ERIC REID*
JOSHUA EVANS
TONY JEFFERSON*
DAVID AMERSON*
BRADLEY MCDOUGALD
DJ SWEARINGER
J.J. WILCOX
PHILLIP THOMAS
-not draftable...don't hold up in space
BACARRI RAMBO, ROBERT LESTER, TIM MCDONALD JR

The safety class as you can see is deeeep. Vaccaro is a stud and really like his one on one coverages abilities. That said I value DL/OL over a man coverage safety. He won't be used for his strengths enough for me to take him at 18 unless he is truly your highest guy on the board. Find it hard to believe the top 3-techs will be gone. I have a higher grade on Short for us than Vaccaro. I am really high on both Elam and Cyprien I think either could be a day 1 starter. They are similar players. Elam is getting a lot of heat for his size but he has the best ball skills in the class to me. He's just a natural athlete. I think Cyprien proved at the senior bowl he is a starter at the next level. I see a lot of Ed Reed in him on the field....he'll be a good player for awhile to whoever drafts him. Outside of the top 50 picks you start having to choose which type of player you want. Nice variety of hard hitters and coverage guys. I'd think we'd lean for coverage with the organization high on Church. But that said I'm not sold that Church is a NFL starter even if our organization is.

OG/C
CHANCE WARMACK
JONATHAN COOPER
LAWRENCE WARFORD
BARRETT JONES
DALLAS THOMAS
TRAVIS FREDERICK*
GARRETT GILKEY
HUGH THORNTON
KHALED HOLMES
-some talent after these names...but tough to project them as starters year one

Lots of people are high on Warmack this time of year. I like him a lot but I don't think he's as good of a prospect as Maurice Pouncey coming out. Pouncey went at pick 18...so the value would be about right. But I just don't see the talent drop off until after our 2nd round pick. As good as Warmack or Cooper will be year one...you could expect the Warford, Jones, Thomas to be day one starters with our pick in the 2nd round. So that to me is the ultimate kicker. Do you go OG first or 3-tech. We can even find a OG starter outside the first 2 rounds...but it's no sure thing outside the 2nd round.

LDE
BJOERN WERNER*
EZEKIAL ANSAH
SAM MONTGOMERY*
DATONE JONES
CORNEL CARRADINE
ARMONTY BRYANT
WILLIAM GHOLSTON*
MIKE CATAPANO
DEVIN TAYLOR
-tweeners
COREY LEMONIER*
BRANDON JENKINS
DAMONTRE MOORE*
JARVIS JONES*

I truly believe we will let Spencer walk and get paid somewhere else. That leaves us with another need. But contrary to the popular belief I'm not sold that we have a huge need here. I believe there are guys on the roster to get the job done. If you are looking for a year one starter I'd think you'd have to draft one in the first two rounds. Some nice developmental prospects later like a Magnus Hunt or Catapano.

DT - 1 Tech
JESSIE WILLIAMS
JONATHAN HANKINS*
BRANDON WILLIAMS

Another position that has some interesting names that will be on the board at 18. That said I'm not sure you take a NT at 18 unless you feel he is the missing piece. We have too many needs and finding a big body can be done in the later rounds. I really like Brandon Williams and think he will require a 2nd round pick but there isn't a NT in the draft with as much potential as him. He has the work ethic and elite measurables...his best football is in front of him. I could see us nabbing one of the top guys if they were to fall to the 2nd round. Jessie Williams in the 2nd round would feel like stealing. We need beef in the middle to protect our LBs.

RT
LANE JOHNSON
ODAY ABOUSHI
D.J. FLUKER*
JORDAN MILLS
KYLE LONG

I really like Lane Johnson. I think I'd play him at LT and move Smith back over to RT. That said I'm not sure the organization views RT as big of a need as I do. They may cut Free...but I don't see it. He was bad last year...but only a few plays and they were technique problems. Give him a little more help or hell keep the rotation going and we can probably wait another year to see what happens here. I like Fluker in the 2nd if he somehow is still on the board. I also like Mills and Long a lot. Mills looks mean at RT and Long can play inside or outside. Give him a year of strength training and you have another starter on the OL. There are some interesting names later but I don't see anyone coming in and challenging for a starting spot over what we have.


Draft Picks
1 - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
Other Options: Richardson, Floyd, Warmack, Cooper, Johnson, Ansah
2 - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Other Options: Sylvester Williams, Spence, Fluker, Elam, Cyprien, Warford, B Jones, Thomas, Frederick, Carradine, J Williams,
3 - Jonathan Cyprien, S, Florida Internation
Other Options: J Hill, E Reid, Gholston, Catapano, Taylor, Brandon Williams, Mills, Long
4 - Khaled Holmes, C, USC
Other Options: David Quessenberry, Phillip Thomas, Jamar Taylor, Brian Schwenke, Robert Alford
5 - Earl Watford, OG, James Madison
6036, 300 and 5.10: Excellent body control, balance and coordination combined so that he could adjust to block a moving target with remarkable ease out in space. Quick out of stance to set to block, Watford can ďget a good fit,Ē kept feet moving and could keep man pinned on LOS in pass pro. Perhaps most impressive was Watfordís ability to re-set and anchor when he was jolted backwards initially by power rusher. Watford is not likely to be a high draft pick, but after what I observed in Tampa I am confident that he will develop into a quality starting guard in time.
6 - D.C. Jefferson, TE, Rutgers
A former quarterback, Jefferson didn't show the expected progression at tight end throughout his Rutgers career (only 47 catches in 50 career collegiate games), but the raw skills are intriguing. And he flashed his talented skill-set during practices, showing off his large, athletic frame and proving to be an imposing target downfield and a physical blocker. Jefferson is still unpolished in several areas, but he showed this week why he's an interesting developmental player and worth a draft pick on the draft's third day.
7 - Ryan Griffin, QB, Tulane
Griffin has been one of the most impressive prospects on either roster during Shrine game practices this past week. Rob Rang of NFLDraftScout.com said that Griffin separated himself as "the best arm in Allen this week," showing a quick release and good zip on his passes. He still needs to improve his downfield accuracy and timing, but as a late-round pick he would have a lot of upside.

Trogdor
02-07-2013, 08:02 PM
Mock Offseason: Version 2.0 (3.0 will be post-combine):

Using the same roster cost cutting moves listed in my original mock unless listed otherwise. If someone is not listed in the 53 assume they were cut. Going VERY light in free agency and envisioning us eating as much of the cap penalties this season rather than pushing into the next.

Won't dive super deep into the numbers but envision that I did a thorough budget and only pushed cap hits after June 1st if necessary to complete what I did below.

:) After the combine I promise to do a super thorough projection with the cap again.


Cuts differing from original
Gerald Sensabaugh: Dallas moves on from Sensy as his fit in the scheme is highly questionable and the team plans to immediately fill his starting role in the opening days of free agency.


FREE AGENCY
Glover Quin - If the Texans let him go keeping him in-state would be a coup. Hard-nosed and with serious range the converted CB would bring energy to the back-end of the secondary for the first time in a while.

Jason Smith (cut by the Jets) - Reasonable salary with roster bonuses and escalators next year based on playing time. Aka if Parnell loses out the battle and Smith plays well he gets paid nicely and gets to play close to home. If not he's making commiserate value of a swing tackle.

Resign Phil Costa: Low level RFA tender

Resign L.P. Ladouceur: One of the best long-snappers in the game. Never hear his name called which is high praise for the position.


NFL DRAFT

Highlights are within spoilers to keep the size down.

1) Johnathan Cooper, OG, UNC
Incredibly athletic and would be spoken about as the "best guard prospect in years" if not for Chance Warmack. His initial punch is jarring and his footwork is rediculous for a big-man. Perfect fit for the athletic line Garrett seems to be building and will be a monster on pulling, traps, and any play asking him to get to the 2nd level.


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2) Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
Stout and absolutely thick through the lower half. Best image I can conjure for him would be a human-wrecking ball. His stock is a rollercoaster at the moment with various projections putting him as early as our 1st pick or into the late 2nd. If he's here it's a lock.


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Full disclosure pretty much anyone can have their way with Braxton (C for ND) so take any moves against him with a grain of salt.


If Short doesn't make it to this pick which I think is likely, if a run on DTs occurs, I would push for a trade down before taking someone like Sylvester Williams (late 2nd-early 3rd) or Bennie Logan (mid 3rd - early 4th).

3) Cornellius Carradine, DE, FSU
ACL tear ruined the momentum he had during the season. Strong lower body with chiseled frame. Very raw with his pass rush moves only notable counter he has to his bull-rush would be the swim to the outside. Projecting him to play a part on passing downs but his ball-watching and getting washed out of play will need to stop before stepping into the starting lineup.


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4) Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
Both D and I love this guy. As far as a scouting report it reads exactly like another Rutgers alum: Ray Rice. Great hands, tough runner despite size, and much more elusive than he looks.


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5) Michael Mauti, LB, PSU
Multiple ACL tears drop his stock. Sean Lee type instincts and team leader. We love injured LBs and Mauti has huge potential and is injured.


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6) DeVonte Holloman, OLB, South Carolina
Converted SS at SC who should be a lock for an elite special teamer. Will need to work on shedding blocks if he wants to see the field but has all the tools you want from a SLB in the "Dallas-2" scheme.


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That first play is just beautiful. Set the edge as a LB read the RB and shed and tackle. If he did that consistently he'd be taken top 50.


Primary UDFA:
Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
Tuel has excellent measureables but never managed to fully put it together. His durability is a major question mark due to his propensity for watching games from the sidelines. That being said he would make an excellent developmental QB.


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First play reminded me of Tony Romo so I had to use it.


Ryan Griffin, TE, Connecticut
Projected to be the 4th TE and has a chance to make the 53 based on special teams play and ability to block. Griffin is an active and able blocker more committed seemingly than some of his UCONN teammates. Has the size and ability to be a large red zone target as well.


Sorry no real highlight tapes of him. Couldn't even find a decent blocking breakdown for an offensive lineman on Connecticut. His main talent is his inline blocking but he is a solid receiver as well.

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Mike Catapano, DE, Princeton
Garrett tabs a fellow Princeton alum as a developmental defensive end as the team moves to the 4-3 scheme.


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Dustin Harris, CB, Texas A&M
Local product flashed potential (projecting ;) ) in the 2013 Dallas Days is battling for a shot as the teams 4th/5th corner.


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PROJECTED LINEUP

OFFENSE: (25)

QB: Romo, Orton, Tuel

RB: Murray, Franklin, Dunbar

FB: Vickers

WR: Dez, Austin, Holmes, Beasley, Coale

TE: Witten, Hanna, Griffin

LT: Smith, Weems

LG: Livings, Arkin

C: Costa, Cook - (Camp battle Costa/Cook/Bernie)

RG: Cooper,Bernie

RT: Parnell, Smith - (Camp battle)


DEFENSE: (25)

RDE: Ware, Carradine, Catapano

LDE: Hatcher, Crawford -Hatcher will be moved inside in place of Ratliff in pass rush "NASCAR" formation. (Ware/Short/Hatcher/Crawford)

NT: Ratliff, Lissemore

UT: Short, Price

WLB: Carter, Sims

MLB: Lee, Mauti

SLB: (Albright, Wilber, Holloman) - Major camp battle

CB: Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, Moore, Harris

FS: Quin, Johnson

SS: Church, McCray


Special Teams: (3)

LS: L.P. Ladouceur

K: Dan Bailey

P: Chris Jones

HEISMANHERSCHEL
02-10-2013, 01:12 AM
Here is my retort to D-Unit. Once again, I admit that I often miss...

As far as Matthew Tucker-I love it. Very Nice.

On Thomas Howard. I am good with him, except I thought Ernie Simms was pretty good last year. All things considered, I think he was way better than what I was expecting.

On Phillip Tanner. You are 100% right on his production. But I like him for some reason, and I really can't justify it at all.

On Barber. Your points are very good. You maybe on to something. I just think he is too old. I fear the fall with him.

On OL. You did have them drafting OL in the first and third, and that is more than I expect the boys to do. But I think they lack more than just new starters. I think they lack competition at their positions. I would like to see new, good starters with guys behind them that can compete for the job. If anyone goes down, we are in trouble. Warmack and Watson would be great, but I still think it leaves the starting OL wanting. Not to mention the backups. I probably went a little over the top, saying that with your offseason we would be drafting OL again next year. But the fact is I still don't think this would fix the OL completely. If I were running the team I would fix it now. I am tired of watching them get beat with a three man rush. Even my wife asked me why "Five cowboys cant block 3 on the other team" this year. She knows nothing about football, but still saw our offensive linemen getting walked around.

And as for Thule-You and I are usually on the same page. I love your posts. And I do love the off season moves that you laid out. But I did not like your draft. Combining your off season with your draft, you barely address OL at all. Can you really see us being much better without bringing in new starts on OL?

I say we need new starts on OL and new competition. Needless to say, I saw a line that could not compete this year.

Witten4HOF
02-11-2013, 05:50 PM
Trog- I really like where you went with your mock, especially with unspectacular but high ceiling free agents in Quin and Smith. I think a lot of the guys in your mock are going to be risers IMO. Short was very impressive at the senior bowl and trimmed all of the excess weight that caused inconsistency at times. If his combine numbers are solid he will easily be a mid first round pick. I also heard some rumblings that some teams may gamble on Tank Carradine's injury earlier then you would expect for a player who won't be ready to play opening day. I am huge on Jaimison, he is a great player who doesn't get enough credit because he doesn't have prototypical size/speed. I felt he would be available in the 4th due to this perception but Scouts might come around. Todd Mcshay has a second round grade on him at this point. Do you know anything about this Mike Catapano kid? Has his own hype thread on the draft forum with some kid stating he is going to blow up his pro day.

D-Unit
02-11-2013, 05:55 PM
Trog- I really like where you went with your mock, especially with unspectacular but high ceiling free agents in Quin and Smith. I think a lot of the guys in your mock are going to be risers IMO. Short was very impressive at the senior bowl and trimmed all of the excess weight that caused inconsistency at times. If his combine numbers are solid he will easily be a mid first round pick. I also heard some rumblings that some teams may gamble on Tank Carradine's injury earlier then you would expect for a player who won't be ready to play opening day. I am huge on Jaimison, he is a great player who doesn't get enough credit because he doesn't have prototypical size/speed. I felt he would be available in the 4th due to this perception but Scouts might come around. Todd Mcshay has a second round grade on him at this point. Do you know anything about this Mike Catapano kid? Has his own hype thread on the draft forum with some kid stating he is going to blow up his pro day.
Hey W4HOF, didn't you say you had a mock offseason? Would love to see it.

Trogdor
02-11-2013, 07:12 PM
Trog- I really like where you went with your mock, especially with unspectacular but high ceiling free agents in Quin and Smith. I think a lot of the guys in your mock are going to be risers IMO. Short was very impressive at the senior bowl and trimmed all of the excess weight that caused inconsistency at times. If his combine numbers are solid he will easily be a mid first round pick. I also heard some rumblings that some teams may gamble on Tank Carradine's injury earlier then you would expect for a player who won't be ready to play opening day. I am huge on Jaimison, he is a great player who doesn't get enough credit because he doesn't have prototypical size/speed. I felt he would be available in the 4th due to this perception but Scouts might come around. Todd Mcshay has a second round grade on him at this point. Do you know anything about this Mike Catapano kid? Has his own hype thread on the draft forum with some kid stating he is going to blow up his pro day.

Agreed on the high risers I really try not to pick guys whom I don't see as being available but it's really hard to ignore a guy whose value IMHO is much higher than his current stock. I used a combination of my own opinion, CBS, Optimum, NFP, Scott, and a few other random sources to generate a consensus and then picked players BELOW even that stock. I can't imagine Tank being a 3rd rounder to be honest but the consensus had him as a late 3rd so I took him mid-3rd. The plethora of talented defensive ends means someone is going to slip. I wouldn't be mad to even reach a bit for someone like say David Bass from Missouri Western who is tagged as a 5th round but I imagine his stock will climb before the draft.

As far as Short I love him as a prospect but his stock is volatile due to the presence of Star, Richardson, Floyd, Jesse Williams, Hankins, Jenkins, Brandon Williams, Sylvester Williams, etc. A lot of talented DTs in the draft although narrowing to 3-techs in this draft is a slightly easier task. That's not even including one guy I think that will skyrocket between now and the draft which is Bennie Logan. CBS has him as a 4th, DraftScout has him as a late 4th, Optimum just bumped him from a 5th to a 2nd within the last week. He's excellent at shooting gaps and keeps himself low and drives with power.

I think you can find a 3-tech in this draft without spending your top pick for one. I'll take Cooper (or whomever is the top OG prospect available) & Logan or Sylvester Williams later over whoever is the top 3-tech at 18 and then best available OG.

We actually picked a hell of a draft to need a 3-tech and S. Both positions are absolutely STACKED.

Mike Catapano is a bit of an enigma. He flashes huge potential and then he disappears. He's much more of an athlete than a football player but he certainly dominates lesser competition. I don't buy the 2nd round talk from McShay but I really don't respect his opinion especially at this stage anyhow. I honestly think he'll be a mid rounder after showing off at the combine but once again was using current stock as a basis of my mock. Post-combine should settle some of the dust and at least give us some tiers to work with.

Keep in mind with Catapano he was a 220lb fullback when he came to Princeton so he is incredibly raw for the position. He will put on a show during workouts though.

cmd34
02-14-2013, 11:01 PM
Free Agency
After restructuring and some releases, the Cowboys should have enough room to sign one major free agent and a few minor ones.
Henry Melton, DT, 6-3/295 Age 26
http://media.mlive.com/lions_impact/photo/12040483-large.jpg
James Casey, FB/TE,6-3/243 Age 28
http://cbshouston.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/james-casey.jpg
Patrick Chung, S, 5-11/212 Age 25
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/media/motion/2013/0103/com_130103_nfl_ReissOneonOne/com_130103_nfl_ReissOneonOne.jpg&w=384&h=216

Draft
1(18) - Traded to Buffalo for their 2nd(41) and their 2014 1st.
2A(41) - Giovani Bernard, RB, 5-10/205 North Carolina
http://courier-tribune.com/sites/files/article/109334_web_Giovani-Bernard_puntreturn_.jpg
2B(47) - Khaseem Greene, OLB, 6-1/236 Rutgers
http://www.scarletknights.com/ck/images/football/2012/front/greene_su2.jpg
3(80) - Cornellius Carradine, DE, 6-4/265 Florida State
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/475/681/6_681475.jpg
4(111) - Brian Winters, G/T, 6-4/310 Kent State
http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/11923707-large.jpg
5(144) - JJ Wilcox, S, 5-11/214 Georgia Southern
http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/11984769-large.jpg
6(175) - Michael Williams,TE, 6-6/269 Alabama
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/933/680/7_680933.jpg

leroyisgod
02-15-2013, 08:30 AM
Free Agency
After restructuring and some releases, the Cowboys should have enough room to sign one major free agent and a few minor ones.
Henry Melton, DT, 6-3/295 Age 26
http://media.mlive.com/lions_impact/photo/12040483-large.jpg
James Casey, FB/TE,6-3/243 Age 28
http://cbshouston.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/james-casey.jpg
Patrick Chung, S, 5-11/212 Age 25
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/media/motion/2013/0103/com_130103_nfl_ReissOneonOne/com_130103_nfl_ReissOneonOne.jpg&w=384&h=216

Draft
1(18) - Traded to Buffalo for their 2nd(41) and their 2014 1st.
2A(41) - Giovani Bernard, RB, 5-10/205 North Carolina
http://courier-tribune.com/sites/files/article/109334_web_Giovani-Bernard_puntreturn_.jpg
2B(47) - Khaseem Greene, OLB, 6-1/236 Rutgers
http://www.scarletknights.com/ck/images/football/2012/front/greene_su2.jpg
3(80) - Cornellius Carradine, DE, 6-4/265 Florida State
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/475/681/6_681475.jpg
4(111) - Brian Winters, G/T, 6-4/310 Kent State
http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/11923707-large.jpg
5(144) - JJ Wilcox, S, 5-11/214 Georgia Southern
http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/11984769-large.jpg
6(175) - Michael Williams,TE, 6-6/269 Alabama
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/933/680/7_680933.jpg

I like the FA pick-ups, maybe minus Casey. I'm not sure we'll go in that direction. However, I'm quite baffled by your draft. You went RB and OLB with our first 2 picks. I'm not sure that's the smartest thing to do with our needs at OL.

With your offseason signings, does that include Spencer getting resigned?

cmd34
02-15-2013, 12:26 PM
I like the FA pick-ups, maybe minus Casey. I'm not sure we'll go in that direction. However, I'm quite baffled by your draft. You went RB and OLB with our first 2 picks. I'm not sure that's the smartest thing to do with our needs at OL.

With your offseason signings, does that include Spencer getting resigned?

I was going off Jerry's recent comments that the O line was "fine". He talked about Livings and Bernadeau with another year under their system, the return of a healthy Costa, and the promise of Parnell. This has me thinking we will not make the O Line a priority, yet again.

If it was up to me, we'd draft Warmack or Jonathan Cooper in the 1st, Fluker or Travis Frederick in the 2nd, and Schwenke or Kyle Long in the 3rd. Fix the line once and for all, and watch what Romo could do with real protection.

As far as the RB and OLB pick, I feel that a 2nd RB is key especially with Murray's physical style and injury history. My LB is just a hunch since we seem to target one high almost yearly (Jason Williams 2009, Sean Lee 2010, Bruce Carter 2011, and supposedly Bobby Wagner in 2012). Also, I'm scared to death of the idea of Alex Albright starting at OLB in Kiffin''s Tampa 2 style defense.

No Spencer. Spent the money on Melton instead.

leroyisgod
02-15-2013, 12:47 PM
I was going off Jerry's recent comments that the O line was "fine". He talked about Livings and Bernadeau with another year under their system, the return of a healthy Costa, and the promise of Parnell. This has me thinking we will not make the O Line a priority, yet again.

If it was up to me, we'd draft Warmack or Jonathan Cooper in the 1st, Fluker or Travis Frederick in the 2nd, and Schwenke or Kyle Long in the 3rd. Fix the line once and for all, and watch what Romo could do with real protection.

As far as the RB and OLB pick, I feel that a 2nd RB is key especially with Murray's physical style and injury history. My LB is just a hunch since we seem to target one high almost yearly (Jason Williams 2009, Sean Lee 2010, Bruce Carter 2011, and supposedly Bobby Wagner in 2012). Also, I'm scared to death of the idea of Alex Albright starting at OLB in Kiffin''s Tampa 2 style defense.

No Spencer. Spent the money on Melton instead.

Jerry blowing some smoke screens if you ask me.

D-Unit
02-15-2013, 02:05 PM
Jerry blowing some smoke screens if you ask me.
Yup. I saw Callahan talk about loving his OL, but those words hold no meaning. Of course he's going to spread words of encouragement to the players on the team.

cmd,
I don't mind trading our 1st for a 2014 1st if you have Johnny Football in mind, but taking a RB with our 1st pick in this draft will make me puke. SLB is a position that you don't need to prioritize that high considering our other needs. 4-3 LBs are a dime a dozen. We NEEEEEEED to address our trenches. Winters as a 4th is a stretch also.

Also, Fluker's stock is on the rise and I doubt he's there for our 2nd rounder. If we want him, it's gotta be Round 1.

D-Unit
02-15-2013, 02:06 PM
I was going off Jerry's recent comments that the O line was "fine". He talked about Livings and Bernadeau with another year under their system, the return of a healthy Costa, and the promise of Parnell. This has me thinking we will not make the O Line a priority, yet again.

If it was up to me, we'd draft Warmack or Jonathan Cooper in the 1st, Fluker or Travis Frederick in the 2nd, and Schwenke or Kyle Long in the 3rd. Fix the line once and for all, and watch what Romo could do with real protection.

As far as the RB and OLB pick, I feel that a 2nd RB is key especially with Murray's physical style and injury history. My LB is just a hunch since we seem to target one high almost yearly (Jason Williams 2009, Sean Lee 2010, Bruce Carter 2011, and supposedly Bobby Wagner in 2012). Also, I'm scared to death of the idea of Alex Albright starting at OLB in Kiffin''s Tampa 2 style defense.

No Spencer. Spent the money on Melton instead.
Melton will be franchised if they don't come to terms.

I like the Casey signing!

leroyisgod
02-15-2013, 04:26 PM
Melton will be franchised if they don't come to terms.

I like the Casey signing!

I don't mind signing CAsey, but then another TE later in the draft. A little overkill when we have 2 TE's on the roster now.

D-Unit
02-15-2013, 06:19 PM
I don't mind signing CAsey, but then another TE later in the draft. A little overkill when we have 2 TE's on the roster now.
Yeah that's true. Didn't notice that.

CowboysBeastMode
02-18-2013, 04:33 PM
Pre-Combine Offseason Mock 1.0

i'll save all the specific numbers with the salary cap for my post combine offseason mock i just haven't had much free time the past 2 weeks

Cuts
Doug Free
Marcus Spears
Phillip Tanner
Nate Livings

Restructured Contracts

Brandon Carr
Jay Ratliff - after his latest strings of incidents (DWI, threatening to beat up JJ during an argument) he has no choice especially at his age and possible suspension looming
Miles Austin
Demarcus Ware

Sign Tony Romo to 6 year extension

this should clear enough money for the cowboys to re-sign spencer and make a few small moves in free agency

Free Agency
At the advice of his agent Spencer doesn't re-sign and tests the free agent market and the cowboys unwilling to franchise him again because the amount of money would strap them from any other significant moves in FA.

Spencer signs with his hometown team, the Colts for a massive 5 year deal that averages over $10 million/year along with $20+ million guaranteed.

Cowboys use the money to sign the following players

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aEh6qhoWRAY/UQhKxw0GpPI/AAAAAAAAAsA/IQhwE_YueN8/s1600/sebastian-vollmer.jpg

OT Sebastian Vollmer to a 4 year deal for about $6-7 million/year. He can play left and right tackle. Has had some back issues, but he has lots experience in first rate championship organization, will be 29 years old this season, so there should at least a little left tread on the tires until the team is ready to move Parnell into the starting line-up in a few years.

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Philip+Wheeler+Pittsburgh+Steelers+v+Oakland+L0ypg kJo1Kfl.jpg

OLB Phillip Wheeler to 4 year deal for about 3.5 - 4 million/year. Was the strongside linebacker in Oakland defense last year and probably one the 2 or 3 best players on defense. Bill Polian's take, "Wheeler had a good year in Oakland in 2012. His best position is SAM LB, which is not a big-demand position. But he can run, hit and blitz. He's gotten better every year."

27 years old, has played in the Tampa 2 system in his time in Indy, seems like perfect fit.

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jacksonville+Jaguars+v+Tennessee+Titans+xZq8wim9na Rm.jpg

DT Terrance Knighton to 1 year $3 million deal. Had great rookie year but fell out favor with old regime. Wishing for a change of scenery he tests the open market and comes up dry. Signs basically a show me contract similar to that of Gerald Sensabuagh. Knighton aka "Pot Roast" is 330 lb run stuffer who should be able to anchor the middle against the run, not much of pass rusher but should be a good 2 down option.

http://www.juanelway.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Donnie-Avery-Waiver-Wire-500x487.jpg

WR Donnie Avery to a 1 year veteran minimum. Hasn't been the same since he tore his ACL a few years back. Should battle Beasley and Coale for the last 2 WR spots in training camp.

Draft

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2LkIIU4Nu2Y/UP4M1fCU6QI/AAAAAAAAEsE/WK22jmZ_4SE/s1600/chance-warmack.jpg

1. Chance Warmack OG Alabama - Enough has already been said about him already.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-54yjPjd5fQ4/UCJ8ctSCO4I/AAAAAAAAAbo/oxQViI3mCXs/s1600/David-Amerson.jpg

2. David Amerson CB NC State - Much of the offseason talk from Jason Garrett about the defense has centered around turnovers so why take the player with maybe the best ball skills in the draft. Didn't have as good of year at his sophomore season but still tied for the most INT's in the ACC with 5. At his best when facing the QB and played mostly safety in HS.

With everyone's pet Jawan Jamison taken a few picks ahead the cowboys opt for

http://thebullgator.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Mike-Gillislee.jpg

3. Mike Gillislee RB Florida - Good all around back. Has the skills to compliment Murray and could fill in carry much of the load if or when Demarco is injured. Isn't special at anything but can do everything very well. Is a team first guy waited his turn and played on all special teams units before becoming the starter.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nick+Kasa+Stanford+v+Colorado+rQiycJkC9bzl.jpg

4. Nick Kasa TE Colorado - Turned some heads at the senior bowl with impressive size (6'5'' 271 lbs) and athleticism (He hopes to run in high 4.6, sub 4.7 range at the combine) at the senior bowl. Converted from DL to TE his senior year. More of blocker at this point but has ALOT potential as a reciever. Will be able to contribute immediately as an inline blocker as his recieving skills are developed. Will be player heavily watched at the combine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9RdSSWC-SQ skip to 4:00 mark to see his speed on display.

http://www.ecutigers.com/images//fb0925/IMG_7671_mt.jpg

5. Armonty Bryant DE East Central University(OK) - Small school Texas native (Wichita Falls). Has been labeled the Demarcus Ware of this draft (6'5'' 262 lbs) and dominated all week of the Texas vs Nation game, but has a big red character flag. Was suspended for 3 games following being arrested for selling $20 of marijuana to an undercover cop in a school parking lot before an afternoon practice. Seems like an undraftable player but, after doing some digging, some believe had he been in a bigger program where there are support systems in place for athletes this probably wouldn't have happened. Might be the best all round athlete in the draft and if the cowboys feel comfortable that they have a support system in place to help this kid he could be a steal here and nice piece for Rod Marinelli to work with. Played LDE in college as well. Should light up the combine this weekend.

the only video of him so far
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxEfFmRESg

my pick had nothing to do with this video, read about him as a sleeper pick and from broaddus' notes from the Texas vs Nation notes

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/112/1124897.jpg

6. Josh Downs DT LSU - An undersized DT who was a rotational player in the deep LSU defensive line rotation, but when in the game was consistently disruptive especially as interior pass rusher. At 6'1'' 287 lbs, profiles as a 3-tech DT.

i'll do the UDFA in the post combine mock

2013-2014 Depth chart

Offense

QB Romo/Orton
RB Murray/Gillislee/Dunbar
WR Bryant/Austin/Harris/Avery/Coale
TE Witten/Hanna/Kasa
LT Smith/Parnell
LG Leary/Costa
C Costa/Bernadeau/Kowalski
RG Warmack/Bernadeau
RT Vollmer/Parnell

Defense

LDE Hatcher/Crawford/A. Bryant
3 Tech DT Ratliff/Hatcher/Crawford/Downs
NT Knighton/Lissemore
RDE Ware/Wilber/A. Bryant

SLB Wheeler/Albright/Wilber
MLB Lee/Connor/Albright
WLB Carter/Wheeler/Church
CB Carr/Claiborne/Scandrick/?TBD
SS Sensabaugh/Church/Johnson
FS Amerson/Sensabuagh

Special Teams
PK Bailey
Punter Jones
PR Harris/Bryant
KR Harris/Dunbar/Avery

Witten4HOF
02-18-2013, 06:18 PM
Why would the team cut Livings? He was the most consistent lineman last season and has a manageable salary.

leroyisgod
02-18-2013, 08:47 PM
Why would the team cut Livings? He was the most consistent lineman last season and has a manageable salary.

I was game for that whole offseason plan, but the Livings cut didn't make sense to me as well.

CowboysBeastMode
02-18-2013, 09:31 PM
Why would the team cut Livings? He was the most consistent lineman last season and has a manageable salary.

I was game for that whole offseason plan, but the Livings cut didn't make sense to me as well.so after all that stuff i wrote all you guys have to comment on is why i cut livings :facepalm:

I cut him to make room for the guy the cowboys really want to start at left guard, leary. It pretty much came down to positional flexibility. Bernadeau can play guard and center as well. They both suck imo, and wanted to cut both but i kept bernardeau for that reason alone. If you notice bernardeau is not starting but backing up 2 positions that the sole reason i didn't cut him

Trogdor
02-19-2013, 02:54 PM
Good offseason stuff.

You can't release Livings or Bernie as their salaries are 100% guaranteed this season.

leroyisgod
02-23-2013, 08:00 PM
Quickie 4 rounder

1. Jonathon Cooper- G- UNC
2. Tavon Austin- WR- West Virginia
3. Datone Jones- DE- UCLA
4. Jordan Hill- DT- Penn State

pocketaces
02-23-2013, 08:37 PM
Quickie 4 rounder

1. Jonathon Cooper- G- UNC
2. Tavon Austin- WR- West Virginia
3. Datone Jones- DE- UCLA
4. Jordan Hill- DT- Penn State

Jones wont last till our 3rd IMO, hope we dont go WR that early

CowboysBeastMode
02-23-2013, 09:46 PM
Quickie 4 rounder

1. Jonathon Cooper- G- UNC
2. Tavon Austin- WR- West Virginia
3. Datone Jones- DE- UCLA
4. Jordan Hill- DT- Penn Stateif ur gonna do just the draft you should probably put it in the draft thread but since when in the offseason mock thread, who are ur top 3 free agents and do we keep spencer or not?

Jones wont last till our 3rd IMO, hope we dont go WR that early

don't worry about us taking austin in the second, there is no way he gets out of the first round, my bet is new england takes him or some one trades back up in the first round to take him. a game changing talent such as him rarely gets out of the first round

D-Unit
02-23-2013, 09:50 PM
if ur gonna do just the draft you should probably put it in the draft thread but since when in the offseason mock thread, who are ur top 3 free agents and do we keep spencer or not?



don't worry about us taking austin in the second, there is no way he gets out of the first round, my bet is new england takes him or some one trades back up in the first round to take him. a game changing talent such as him rarely gets out of the first round
I agree. leroy you should've put this in the draft thread with such a bare bones post.

As for Austin, I don't know if he's a sure fire first rounder. Small WRs typically fall in the draft. He's not the first small, fast, fidgety type of WR to enter the draft. Even Desean went Round 2.

CowboysBeastMode
02-23-2013, 10:13 PM
I agree. leroy you should've put this in the draft thread with such a bare bones post.

As for Austin, I don't know if he's a sure fire first rounder. Small WRs typically fall in the draft. He's not the first small, fast, fidgety type of WR to enter the draft. Even Desean went Round 2.hey D what do think of my first offeseason mock? been waiting for a repsonse from you, the only real comment i've had so far is why i would get rid livings

As for austin, this draft is short on playmakers at skill positions, and he has more versatility than desean jackson

leroyisgod
02-24-2013, 07:47 PM
I agree. leroy you should've put this in the draft thread with such a bare bones post.

As for Austin, I don't know if he's a sure fire first rounder. Small WRs typically fall in the draft. He's not the first small, fast, fidgety type of WR to enter the draft. Even Desean went Round 2.

Desean had a lot of character issues. That's one of the reasons he dropped. On and his character issues remain, go figure!!!

leroyisgod
02-24-2013, 07:56 PM
Quickie 4 rounder

1. Jonathon Cooper- G- UNC
2. Tavon Austin- WR- West Virginia
3. Datone Jones- DE- UCLA
4. Jordan Hill- DT- Penn State

By popular demand here's my FA plan.

Spencer isn't resigned.

Signed

DT- Glenn Dorsey
OLB- Rocky McIntosh
CB- Josello Hanson

No big splash in FA mainly because of cap space. But we pick up a few contributors.

After the combine today, Austin might slip into round 1.

D-Unit
02-25-2013, 02:45 PM
I agree with the others... the Livings cut was mysterious.

Restructures seem resonable. I hope for the same.

Romo a new 6 year deal? Kinda long for me. I could see it though. Hopefully the last 2 years are huge and easy to get out of.

FA
Not really down with paying a FA OT. Rather just save the money and draft one. We need to build for long term consistency around Tyron. That's why I am so in favor of investing our high picks on OL.

I like the Wheeler and Knighton pick ups! Knighton I think will get a nicer deal than that though.

Avery does nothing for me personally. I'm ok with Harris and Beasley.

Draft
Interesting pick in Amerson. I'd be pretty stoked with that. Not a fan of Gillislee, especially if we have to spend a 3rd rounder on him. Kasa is ok, but I'd rather have Toilolo. I don't know anything about Armonty Bryant. Not sure what to think of Downs. but it is just a 6th rounder. DT depth is a good area to try to improve.

primetime217
02-26-2013, 01:12 PM
Cuts

Gerald Sensabaugh
Dan Connor
Lawrence Vickers
Doug Free (Post June 1)


Restructures

Brandon Carr
DeMarcus Ware
Jason Witten
Tony Romo (Extension)


Renegotiate deal for Miles Austin

Re-sign

Phil Costa- come in and compete for the starting center.
Enie Sims- provide depth and experience at the LB position. Fits in 4-3.
L.P. Ladouceur- solid long snapper.
Victor Butler- Pass rush depth. Possible nickel rusher.
Danny McCray- special teams ace. Hopefully minimal time on Defense.

All these re-signings would be for low years (1-3 years) and cheap money.

Free Agency- Not too much action, just value signings.

Sedrick Ellis- Fits in the 4-3. Come in and compete.
Dwight Freeney- Surprising signing. I'm thinking he don't get much action on market and we are able to bring him in to rush in Nickel opposite Ware.
Leonard Pope- Blocking TE just like we need. Won't be much of a progress stopper for Hanna.
Jason Smith- Bring him in and compete. Possible swing tackle.


Draft

Kenny Vaccaro- S- Texas- Sensy was a cap casualty, and I'm thinking Cooper and Warmack don't make it to 18. Vaccaro is a good consolation prize. He can step in right away at the FS spot, with Church/Matt Johnson at the SS. Can also come up and line up against the TE in the slot. I like his versatility.
Brandon Williams- DT- Missouri Southern- I want him to come in and play the 1 tech. This will allow Ratliff to play the 3, along with Hatcher. Williams would be a beast against the run, and will be involved in a healthy rotation at DT with Ratliff, Hatcher, and Ellis.
Justin Pugh- G/T- Syracuse- I'm drafting him because of his versatility. He can come in and compete at the Guard spot or he could compete with Parnell and Jason Smith for the RT spot.
Marcus Lattimore- RB- South Carolina- Love this kid when healthy. Dallas has shown that they will take risks on players with injury history i.e. Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, DeMarco Murray. I'm drafting him fully aware that he will more than likely begin the season on the PUP list. I don't want him to rush back into action. With Murray, Tanner, and Dunbar already on the roster, we can allow him to take his time and fully recover.
Marcus Davis- WR- Virginia Tech- ATHLETE. 6' 3" 233 lbs. Ran his 40 at 4.56. Vertial Jump: 39.5. I love his athleticism, and I believe he could make the roster in his first year. With a guy this size, he could be dangerous in the Red Zone. Right now our only Red Zone threat is Dez, so we need some help in that area.
David Bass- DE-Missouri Western- I'm bringing him in to provide pass rush depth. Small school kid, but loads of potential. We've all heard the saying "you can never have enough pass rushers". I think D-Ware could take him under his wing and teach him the ropes. I see him fitting in as a Pass Rush Specialist in the Nickel and Dime packages.


So there it is, my first mock of the year. I know I didn't address the OL until the 3rd, and I'm fully prepared to catch some grief for that. I think Pugh could fit right in though, and I already mentioned how I like his versatility. I like that with him and Mac Berny, we got two guys that can play multiple positions on the line. I didn't get into the Undrafted Free Agents, but positions I would look for there would be FB, CB, LB. I would bring in players at these postions to compete for their positions and for special teams roles.

I used walterfootball.com for almost all of my rankings, both for the draft and for free agency.


Let me know what you guys think.

leroyisgod
02-26-2013, 01:18 PM
Cuts

Gerald Sensabaugh
Dan Connor
Lawrence Vickers
Doug Free (Post June 1)


Restructures

Brandon Carr
DeMarcus Ware
Jason Witten
Tony Romo (Extension)


Renegotiate deal for Miles Austin

Re-sign

Phil Costa- come in and compete for the starting center.
Enie Sims- provide depth and experience at the LB position. Fits in 4-3.
L.P. Ladouceur- solid long snapper.
Victor Butler- Pass rush depth. Possible nickel rusher.
Danny McCray- special teams ace. Hopefully minimal time on Defense.

All these re-signings would be for low years (1-3 years) and cheap money.

Free Agency- Not too much action, just value signings.

Sedrick Ellis- Fits in the 4-3. Come in and compete.
Dwight Freeney- Surprising signing. I'm thinking he don't get much action on market and we are able to bring him in to rush in Nickel opposite Ware.
Leonard Pope- Blocking TE just like we need. Won't be much of a progress stopper for Hanna.
Jason Smith- Bring him in and compete. Possible swing tackle.


Draft

Kenny Vaccaro- S- Texas- Sensy was a cap casualty, and I'm thinking Cooper and Warmack don't make it to 18. Vaccaro is a good consolation prize. He can step in right away at the FS spot, with Church/Matt Johnson at the SS. Can also come up and line up against the TE in the slot. I like his versatility.
Brandon Williams- DT- Missouri Southern- I want him to come in and play the 1 tech. This will allow Ratliff to play the 3, along with Hatcher. Williams would be a beast against the run, and will be involved in a healthy rotation at DT with Ratliff, Hatcher, and Ellis.
Justin Pugh- G/T- Syracuse- I'm drafting him because of his versatility. He can come in and compete at the Guard spot or he could compete with Parnell and Jason Smith for the RT spot.
Marcus Lattimore- RB- South Carolina- Love this kid when healthy. Dallas has shown that they will take risks on players with injury history i.e. Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, DeMarco Murray. I'm drafting him fully aware that he will more than likely begin the season on the PUP list. I don't want him to rush back into action. With Murray, Tanner, and Dunbar already on the roster, we can allow him to take his time and fully recover.
Marcus Davis- WR- Virginia Tech- ATHLETE. 6' 3" 233 lbs. Ran his 40 at 4.56. Vertial Jump: 39.5. I love his athleticism, and I believe he could make the roster in his first year. With a guy this size, he could be dangerous in the Red Zone. Right now our only Red Zone threat is Dez, so we need some help in that area.
David Bass- DE-Missouri Western- I'm bringing him in to provide pass rush depth. Small school kid, but loads of potential. We've all heard the saying "you can never have enough pass rushers". I think D-Ware could take him under his wing and teach him the ropes. I see him fitting in as a Pass Rush Specialist in the Nickel and Dime packages.


So there it is, my first mock of the year. I know I didn't address the OL until the 3rd, and I'm fully prepared to catch some grief for that. I think Pugh could fit right in though, and I already mentioned how I like his versatility. I like that with him and Mac Berny, we got two guys that can play multiple positions on the line. I didn't get into the Undrafted Free Agents, but positions I would look for there would be FB, CB, LB. I would bring in players at these postions to compete for their positions and for special teams roles.

I used walterfootball.com for almost all of my rankings, both for the draft and for free agency.


Let me know what you guys think.

I'm not a fan of your FA pick-ups, minus Ellis. Freeney even in the latter part of his career won't come cheap. Smith, UHHH no thanks! Been a huge bust with injuries. And Pope I'd be mehhhh on.

As for the draft it would be a B- in my book. I was once high on Vaccaro, but I'd rather see us address G or DT in the first.

primetime217
02-26-2013, 01:22 PM
I just didn't want to spend a whole lot of money in Free Agency. It is okay for us to come in under the salary cap and leave us in a better position for next year too. We got guys on the roster that we are going to have to shell out a good chunk of cash to keep around. (Dez, Lee, Carter, Tyron, Murray.) I realize we aren't going to have to take care of all these guys next year, but it is something to think about for the future.

Trogdor
02-26-2013, 02:27 PM
Good stuff Prime I'll break it down in detail :)

First things first. If we cut Sensy that means we'll be signing a veteran FS even if it is just as cover. Garrett loves to line things up as BPA in the draft and doesn't want to have holes going into the draft. Adding a Tampa-2 retread as a "just in case" type signing for close to veteran minimum would make cutting Sensy work. Keep in mind Sensy has to be cut by the start of the league year (March 12th) in order to save us money otherwise his salary is FULLY guaranteed for the year.

Restructures: Great job here. This should be pretty standard throughout all offseason mocks :) Miles may balk at the renegotiating table though.

Re-sign: Good chance of every single one of those happening. McCray probably has the weakest shot given that he has no business playing on defense and could be replaced by number of plays willing to play for minimum.

Free Agency: Very realistic aside from Freeney IMHO. Whomever we bring in will be playing strongside DE. It's the less glamorous DE in the Dallas-2 and will be asked to shoulder a lot of "set the edge" type of assignments. Love the Jason Smith signing I have him in my next mock after talking about him in the discussion thread :)

Draft:
1) Vaccaro: I love Vaccaro and he's my top non-OL choice at 18.
2) Williams: This pick would 99% guarantee Ratliff hitting the streets. Jason Hatcher will be starting without a doubt he was our most dominant lineman last season and will thrive again this season regardless of whether he's 3-tech, SDE, or even 1-tech.
3) Pugh: Some worries with this pick. Has elite ceiling given his mobility but REALLY struggles when players can get to his core. His mirror and body control is excellent. He'd need to hit the gym HARD to develop the necessary core strength to succeed inside.
4) Lattimore: I would be onboard in the 3rd round for this pick in the 4th it is borderline robbery. His stock currently is far too low IMHO.
5)Davis: Fits the size/speed ratio Dallas looks for in their WRs. If he was a committed player he would be talked about as a first rounder but he takes plays off, has fundamental lapses, and is about the laziest blocker I've seen for a man his size. Perfect gamble though in the 5th.
6)David Bass: My small school DE sleeper. He's a load and his burst and ability to use his hands is going to get him drafted higher. He's got excellent potential and the production, albeit D-II, will drive up demand. I have him 5th in my post-combine mock I've been penciling in :)

Overall nice work :)

primetime217
02-26-2013, 03:07 PM
Thanks for the input Trogdor. Here's a little more reasoning to my decisons that you had issues with.

Freeney I want to bring in purely as a pass rusher in the nickel and dime. I don't necessarily want him in the base set, unless D-Ware is injured. I don't think he'll see a whole lot of interest on the market, and think he will be affordable.

I agree with you on Pugh. I think he does struggle with some of his strength, but his technique and mobility are excellent. I think he can hit the weights and add strength and bulk to his frame.

I do agree with you on Lattimore too. Right now he's in the 3,4,5 round range, but I can see him building up some momentum and climbing up the boards. If you look at Ryan Broyles last year, a lot of people were excited about him and that you could probably get him in the 3-5 round range because he was coming off a torn ACL, but he went in the 2nd to Detroit. In this mock I'm just hoping he's there in the 4th.

CowboysBeastMode
03-01-2013, 12:15 PM
Cuts

Gerald Sensabaugh
Dan Connor
Lawrence Vickers
Doug Free (Post June 1)


Restructures

Brandon Carr
DeMarcus Ware
Jason Witten
Tony Romo (Extension)


Renegotiate deal for Miles Austin

Re-sign

Phil Costa- come in and compete for the starting center.
Enie Sims- provide depth and experience at the LB position. Fits in 4-3.
L.P. Ladouceur- solid long snapper.
Victor Butler- Pass rush depth. Possible nickel rusher.
Danny McCray- special teams ace. Hopefully minimal time on Defense.

All these re-signings would be for low years (1-3 years) and cheap money.

Free Agency- Not too much action, just value signings.

Sedrick Ellis- Fits in the 4-3. Come in and compete.
Dwight Freeney- Surprising signing. I'm thinking he don't get much action on market and we are able to bring him in to rush in Nickel opposite Ware.
Leonard Pope- Blocking TE just like we need. Won't be much of a progress stopper for Hanna.
Jason Smith- Bring him in and compete. Possible swing tackle.


Draft

Kenny Vaccaro- S- Texas- Sensy was a cap casualty, and I'm thinking Cooper and Warmack don't make it to 18. Vaccaro is a good consolation prize. He can step in right away at the FS spot, with Church/Matt Johnson at the SS. Can also come up and line up against the TE in the slot. I like his versatility.
Brandon Williams- DT- Missouri Southern- I want him to come in and play the 1 tech. This will allow Ratliff to play the 3, along with Hatcher. Williams would be a beast against the run, and will be involved in a healthy rotation at DT with Ratliff, Hatcher, and Ellis.
Justin Pugh- G/T- Syracuse- I'm drafting him because of his versatility. He can come in and compete at the Guard spot or he could compete with Parnell and Jason Smith for the RT spot.
Marcus Lattimore- RB- South Carolina- Love this kid when healthy. Dallas has shown that they will take risks on players with injury history i.e. Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, DeMarco Murray. I'm drafting him fully aware that he will more than likely begin the season on the PUP list. I don't want him to rush back into action. With Murray, Tanner, and Dunbar already on the roster, we can allow him to take his time and fully recover.
Marcus Davis- WR- Virginia Tech- ATHLETE. 6' 3" 233 lbs. Ran his 40 at 4.56. Vertial Jump: 39.5. I love his athleticism, and I believe he could make the roster in his first year. With a guy this size, he could be dangerous in the Red Zone. Right now our only Red Zone threat is Dez, so we need some help in that area.
David Bass- DE-Missouri Western- I'm bringing him in to provide pass rush depth. Small school kid, but loads of potential. We've all heard the saying "you can never have enough pass rushers". I think D-Ware could take him under his wing and teach him the ropes. I see him fitting in as a Pass Rush Specialist in the Nickel and Dime packages.


So there it is, my first mock of the year. I know I didn't address the OL until the 3rd, and I'm fully prepared to catch some grief for that. I think Pugh could fit right in though, and I already mentioned how I like his versatility. I like that with him and Mac Berny, we got two guys that can play multiple positions on the line. I didn't get into the Undrafted Free Agents, but positions I would look for there would be FB, CB, LB. I would bring in players at these postions to compete for their positions and for special teams roles.

I used walterfootball.com for almost all of my rankings, both for the draft and for free agency.


Let me know what you guys think.not a fan a resigning mccray and cutting sensabaugh, i dont like sensabaugh but i like him a heck of alot then mccray as a safety b/c other than vacarro no else can be penciled in as starter, i would cut sensy if johnson or church can prove they can handle the job during training camp. don't see the point in keeping butler when you have kyle wilber since they're basically the same player. i like ellis for depth and pope as long as its at the vet minimum. freeney will get good money and i don't understand signing him and having resigned butler as a nickel pass rusher there isn't enough room on the field for all those guys. jason smith = alex barron.

vacarro and williams A+++, pugh lasting to the middle of the third round don't see it happening but i would a nice get there. i would rather see us get a running back that actually play this year, lattimore does us no good if murray goes down again. davis should make for a good special teams player. bass in 6th i good but you might have to cut him b/c you already have a bunch de's on your roster already

Iamcanadian
03-01-2013, 12:42 PM
Cuts

Gerald Sensabaugh
Dan Connor
Lawrence Vickers
Doug Free (Post June 1)


Restructures

Brandon Carr
DeMarcus Ware
Jason Witten
Tony Romo (Extension)


Renegotiate deal for Miles Austin

Re-sign

Phil Costa- come in and compete for the starting center.
Enie Sims- provide depth and experience at the LB position. Fits in 4-3.
L.P. Ladouceur- solid long snapper.
Victor Butler- Pass rush depth. Possible nickel rusher.
Danny McCray- special teams ace. Hopefully minimal time on Defense.

All these re-signings would be for low years (1-3 years) and cheap money.

Free Agency- Not too much action, just value signings.

Sedrick Ellis- Fits in the 4-3. Come in and compete.
Dwight Freeney- Surprising signing. I'm thinking he don't get much action on market and we are able to bring him in to rush in Nickel opposite Ware.
Leonard Pope- Blocking TE just like we need. Won't be much of a progress stopper for Hanna.
Jason Smith- Bring him in and compete. Possible swing tackle.


Draft

Kenny Vaccaro- S- Texas- Sensy was a cap casualty, and I'm thinking Cooper and Warmack don't make it to 18. Vaccaro is a good consolation prize. He can step in right away at the FS spot, with Church/Matt Johnson at the SS. Can also come up and line up against the TE in the slot. I like his versatility.
Brandon Williams- DT- Missouri Southern- I want him to come in and play the 1 tech. This will allow Ratliff to play the 3, along with Hatcher. Williams would be a beast against the run, and will be involved in a healthy rotation at DT with Ratliff, Hatcher, and Ellis.
Justin Pugh- G/T- Syracuse- I'm drafting him because of his versatility. He can come in and compete at the Guard spot or he could compete with Parnell and Jason Smith for the RT spot.
Marcus Lattimore- RB- South Carolina- Love this kid when healthy. Dallas has shown that they will take risks on players with injury history i.e. Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, DeMarco Murray. I'm drafting him fully aware that he will more than likely begin the season on the PUP list. I don't want him to rush back into action. With Murray, Tanner, and Dunbar already on the roster, we can allow him to take his time and fully recover.
Marcus Davis- WR- Virginia Tech- ATHLETE. 6' 3" 233 lbs. Ran his 40 at 4.56. Vertial Jump: 39.5. I love his athleticism, and I believe he could make the roster in his first year. With a guy this size, he could be dangerous in the Red Zone. Right now our only Red Zone threat is Dez, so we need some help in that area.
David Bass- DE-Missouri Western- I'm bringing him in to provide pass rush depth. Small school kid, but loads of potential. We've all heard the saying "you can never have enough pass rushers". I think D-Ware could take him under his wing and teach him the ropes. I see him fitting in as a Pass Rush Specialist in the Nickel and Dime packages.


So there it is, my first mock of the year. I know I didn't address the OL until the 3rd, and I'm fully prepared to catch some grief for that. I think Pugh could fit right in though, and I already mentioned how I like his versatility. I like that with him and Mac Berny, we got two guys that can play multiple positions on the line. I didn't get into the Undrafted Free Agents, but positions I would look for there would be FB, CB, LB. I would bring in players at these postions to compete for their positions and for special teams roles.

I used walterfootball.com for almost all of my rankings, both for the draft and for free agency.


Let me know what you guys think.

I think Kenny Vaccaro- S- Texas, will be strictly a SS, I don't think FS is his best position, otherwise not a bad draft.

Macarthur
03-01-2013, 01:26 PM
Prime, I don't think Pugh will last until the 3rd. There are some folks now saying that he could sneak into the back of the first. I don't believe that, but I think he's not getting out of the 2nd.

And with drafting Bass, you have 4 TEs on the roster. They are not going to carry 4 TEs.

I think the 3rd might be a good spot for someone like Bailey or Gabe Jackson.

Lattimore might be a good value in the 4th if he checks out, but we need help at RB this year. Lattimore will most likely need a RS year. 4th is too high at RB for a RS year.

I don't have a huge problem with your first two picks.

Trogdor
03-01-2013, 02:10 PM
And with drafting Bass, you have 4 TEs on the roster. They are not going to carry 4 TEs.


David Bass is a DE. Good athlete, excellent production, should be a nice value pick for someone in the middle rounds in need of a DE.

Macarthur
03-01-2013, 02:17 PM
My bad, I thought I was seeing TE.

primetime217
03-12-2013, 03:12 AM
Trouble falling asleep tonight, got football on the mind. So I decided to write up a quick mock draft. It goes quite a bit different than my last one, and focuses heavy on the trenches. Here goes nothing.....


Chance Warmack- Alabama G- I have a tough time imagining 5 offensive linemen, including 2 OG's, going before 18. I think the 3 tackles are more likely to be taken, simply because of the need of that position. I think that Cooper will appeal more to teams because of his versatility. This is why I believe Warmack will be the one to slide, and Dallas capitalizes. Plug him in at Guard and he'll be a staple there for the next decade.
Tank Carradine- Florida St. DE- I've seen mock drafts with him going in the back end of the 1st round, I don't see this happening. I believe teams will be weary on him not only because of the ACL, but also the somewhat lack of experience. This also is a typical Dallas Cowboys pick. They are known to take risks in the 2nd on people with injuries, i.e. Bruce Carter, Sean Lee. I'm liking this pick the more I think about it. He doesn't have to rush back year 1, because Spencer has the tag and starting at LE. I think we could bring him along slowly, and let him fully grasp the scheme before throwing him out there. Also, Rod Marinelli will be salivating at the potential.
Brandon Williams- Missouri Southern DT- Rod Marinelli is definitely giddy in the war room now. I love this guys potential. With Spencer coming back, I could see Crawford working more as the 3 tech, along with Hatcher. Ratliff could also fill in at the 3 tech along with the 1 tech. Lissemore is at the 1 tech, but who else? I believe Brandon Williams can be that guy. Last mock I took him in the 2nd, but lately have seen him falling further down in mocks (for some reason). Having Rod Marinelli on board also really paid a huge factor in this decision. If anyone can squeeze out the potential of a kid like this, its Marinelli.
Duke Williams- Nevada Safety- Safety position has to be addressed. I believe they will bring in a mid level free agent, but the draft could also serve well at this position. Haven't got to see a ton of film on him, but from what I've seen, he looks promising. Also, I would love to hear the Dallas crowd yelling out DDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKEEE!!!!! every play he makes.
Christine Michael- Texas A&M RB- This is another position where Dallas needs to inject some youth. This kid has the size, and is athletic as well. Another reason I like him is his limited wear and tear. He ran in a RB by committee at Texas A&M, so that means he should have very fresh legs coming into the league.
Earl Wolff- - N.C. State Safety- I know I know, I already drafted a Safety, but I think we could double up at this position to induce even more competition in camp. Also, this dude is an athlete. At 6'0" and 207 lbs, he has the size to play the position, but he also ran his 40 in the 4.4's. Worst case scenario, he can come in and be a stud on special teams.

There's my second mock of the year. Everything will change pretty drastically after free agency, but that's why I wanted to do this before it starts. I didn't a couple mid level free agents to get in my way of the draft. Also, 900+ lbs combined for the first 3 picks, it's time to start winning battles in the trenches.

DrewyVuitton
03-12-2013, 04:27 AM
Trouble falling asleep tonight, got football on the mind. So I decided to write up a quick mock draft. It goes quite a bit different than my last one, and focuses heavy on the trenches. Here goes nothing.....


Chance Warmack- Alabama G- I have a tough time imagining 5 offensive linemen, including 2 OG's, going before 18. I think the 3 tackles are more likely to be taken, simply because of the need of that position. I think that Cooper will appeal more to teams because of his versatility. This is why I believe Warmack will be the one to slide, and Dallas capitalizes. Plug him in at Guard and he'll be a staple there for the next decade.
Tank Carradine- Florida St. DE- I've seen mock drafts with him going in the back end of the 1st round, I don't see this happening. I believe teams will be weary on him not only because of the ACL, but also the somewhat lack of experience. This also is a typical Dallas Cowboys pick. They are known to take risks in the 2nd on people with injuries, i.e. Bruce Carter, Sean Lee. I'm liking this pick the more I think about it. He doesn't have to rush back year 1, because Spencer has the tag and starting at LE. I think we could bring him along slowly, and let him fully grasp the scheme before throwing him out there. Also, Rod Marinelli will be salivating at the potential.
Brandon Williams- Missouri Southern DT- Rod Marinelli is definitely giddy in the war room now. I love this guys potential. With Spencer coming back, I could see Crawford working more as the 3 tech, along with Hatcher. Ratliff could also fill in at the 3 tech along with the 1 tech. Lissemore is at the 1 tech, but who else? I believe Brandon Williams can be that guy. Last mock I took him in the 2nd, but lately have seen him falling further down in mocks (for some reason). Having Rod Marinelli on board also really paid a huge factor in this decision. If anyone can squeeze out the potential of a kid like this, its Marinelli.
Duke Williams- Nevada Safety- Safety position has to be addressed. I believe they will bring in a mid level free agent, but the draft could also serve well at this position. Haven't got to see a ton of film on him, but from what I've seen, he looks promising. Also, I would love to hear the Dallas crowd yelling out DDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKEEE!!!!! every play he makes.
Christine Michael- Texas A&M RB- This is another position where Dallas needs to inject some youth. This kid has the size, and is athletic as well. Another reason I like him is his limited wear and tear. He ran in a RB by committee at Texas A&M, so that means he should have very fresh legs coming into the league.
Earl Wolff- - N.C. State Safety- I know I know, I already drafted a Safety, but I think we could double up at this position to induce even more competition in camp. Also, this dude is an athlete. At 6'0" and 207 lbs, he has the size to play the position, but he also ran his 40 in the 4.4's. Worst case scenario, he can come in and be a stud on special teams.

There's my second mock of the year. Everything will change pretty drastically after free agency, but that's why I wanted to do this before it starts. I didn't a couple mid level free agents to get in my way of the draft. Also, 900+ lbs combined for the first 3 picks, it's time to start winning battles in the trenches.


I like it but have a few questions

Is Carradine someone who can play LDE in the future? To me, he's better suited to play RDE and would end up having the same problem Spencer will have with being undersized for the strong side.

What do you think? I'm pretty sure he played RDE for FSU as well with Werner at LDE

I really like Duke Williams as a mid round FS prospect. Functional speed, physical, has all the tools you'd want but is a little raw. I've seen him make some great plays, but I've also seen a handful of mistakes. Although, it did look like his CB's failed to do their jobs on the big plays I saw him give up. He was a big time recruit that chose to stay local. Could have been at USC if he wanted.

With Christine Michael, I know he has off the field issues but I just don't think he'll last until the 5th. I've heard it said by some people he has too much talent to make it out of the 2nd.

My guess is someone will snag him up in the 3rd.

Some nice names on that list though

primetime217
03-12-2013, 10:05 AM
I believe Carradine can come in and play LDE. He's got the size to do it for sure. He's already an inch taller, and about 20 lbs heavier than Spencer. At 6'3" 276 lbs, he is the prototype for the 4-3 DE. Plus, I'm sure he'd add about 10 pounds by his second year, if not more. The only workout he did at the combine was the bench press, and he benched 225 lbs 28 times, which is a pretty respectable number for a DE. I watched the tape of him against Clemson and Miami, and noticed he actually lines up at LE a handful of times. I'm not sure if this was just to give the OL different looks or rotation or what. I think he can hold the point of attack well in this defense, and like I mentioned in the mock, he's got Marinelli to mold him into a true LE. And also like I said in the mock, he doesn't have to rush into playing time, cuz Spencer's already here for atleast one more year, so he can get a full grasp on the position before seeing significant playing time.

Here is the analysis of Tank from nfl.com. The first line of the strengths suggests that they also believe he'd fit in at the LE spot in the 4-3.

Analysis

Strengths
Carradine flashes explosion off the snap to challenge the lateral agility of right tackles, and can swipe them away with strong hands to slingshot into the pocket. He also plays with the leverage of a shorter player, brings a strong initial punch to bull lesser tackles off the ball, and simply shoves tight ends away like ragdolls in the run game. Thereís certainly no issue with his motor, as he will hustle to the sideline if the play can be made.
Weaknesses
Though Carradine shows most all of the physical attributes teams covet in a defensive end, his lack of experience is a negative. And if he isnít on the field for any extended period of time in 2012, it might be tough for scouts to give him a starterís grade because they donít know what his level of stamina against better competition.
NFL Comparison
Justin Tuck
Bottom Line
On most other defenses, Carradine would have started as a first-year junior college transfer, but Bjoern Werner and Brandon Jenkins limited his snaps in 2011. Still, he flashed real athleticism and strength and was able to take the starting right defensive end spot by the horns when Jenkins was sidelined for the season. Carradine appeared to be headed for a first-round selection, but a torn ACL will limit his work prior to April's draft. The talent is certainly there, however.

CowboysBeastMode
03-12-2013, 11:35 AM
Trouble falling asleep tonight, got football on the mind. So I decided to write up a quick mock draft. It goes quite a bit different than my last one, and focuses heavy on the trenches. Here goes nothing.....


Chance Warmack- Alabama G- I have a tough time imagining 5 offensive linemen, including 2 OG's, going before 18. I think the 3 tackles are more likely to be taken, simply because of the need of that position. I think that Cooper will appeal more to teams because of his versatility. This is why I believe Warmack will be the one to slide, and Dallas capitalizes. Plug him in at Guard and he'll be a staple there for the next decade.
Tank Carradine- Florida St. DE- I've seen mock drafts with him going in the back end of the 1st round, I don't see this happening. I believe teams will be weary on him not only because of the ACL, but also the somewhat lack of experience. This also is a typical Dallas Cowboys pick. They are known to take risks in the 2nd on people with injuries, i.e. Bruce Carter, Sean Lee. I'm liking this pick the more I think about it. He doesn't have to rush back year 1, because Spencer has the tag and starting at LE. I think we could bring him along slowly, and let him fully grasp the scheme before throwing him out there. Also, Rod Marinelli will be salivating at the potential.
Brandon Williams- Missouri Southern DT- Rod Marinelli is definitely giddy in the war room now. I love this guys potential. With Spencer coming back, I could see Crawford working more as the 3 tech, along with Hatcher. Ratliff could also fill in at the 3 tech along with the 1 tech. Lissemore is at the 1 tech, but who else? I believe Brandon Williams can be that guy. Last mock I took him in the 2nd, but lately have seen him falling further down in mocks (for some reason). Having Rod Marinelli on board also really paid a huge factor in this decision. If anyone can squeeze out the potential of a kid like this, its Marinelli.
Duke Williams- Nevada Safety- Safety position has to be addressed. I believe they will bring in a mid level free agent, but the draft could also serve well at this position. Haven't got to see a ton of film on him, but from what I've seen, he looks promising. Also, I would love to hear the Dallas crowd yelling out DDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKEEE!!!!! every play he makes.
Christine Michael- Texas A&M RB- This is another position where Dallas needs to inject some youth. This kid has the size, and is athletic as well. Another reason I like him is his limited wear and tear. He ran in a RB by committee at Texas A&M, so that means he should have very fresh legs coming into the league.
Earl Wolff- - N.C. State Safety- I know I know, I already drafted a Safety, but I think we could double up at this position to induce even more competition in camp. Also, this dude is an athlete. At 6'0" and 207 lbs, he has the size to play the position, but he also ran his 40 in the 4.4's. Worst case scenario, he can come in and be a stud on special teams.

There's my second mock of the year. Everything will change pretty drastically after free agency, but that's why I wanted to do this before it starts. I didn't a couple mid level free agents to get in my way of the draft. Also, 900+ lbs combined for the first 3 picks, it's time to start winning battles in the trenches.
not in love with the carradine pick i see the potential but i feel like he can only be a pass rush specialist with the personnel the cowboys already have on defense.

i really don't think brandon williams is gonna be around by the time our 3rd rounder comes around, i really like him but he has some pass rush potential as a nose tackle, which should only push his value up


duke williams :great:

as for michael, he did have ridiculous combine and is probably the most gifted back in this class, but i agree and disagree with drewy. i agree that he aint gonna be around in the fifth, but i disagree about the off the field stuff, its more on the field concerns, well really football character concerns, how much does football mean to him, and once he gets the money and notoriety will he continue to dedicate himself to the game, and for that reason i don't see jason garrett signing off on him

DrewyVuitton
03-12-2013, 01:43 PM
I believe Carradine can come in and play LDE. He's got the size to do it for sure. He's already an inch taller, and about 20 lbs heavier than Spencer. At 6'3" 276 lbs, he is the prototype for the 4-3 DE. Plus, I'm sure he'd add about 10 pounds by his second year, if not more. The only workout he did at the combine was the bench press, and he benched 225 lbs 28 times, which is a pretty respectable number for a DE. I watched the tape of him against Clemson and Miami, and noticed he actually lines up at LE a handful of times. I'm not sure if this was just to give the OL different looks or rotation or what. I think he can hold the point of attack well in this defense, and like I mentioned in the mock, he's got Marinelli to mold him into a true LE. And also like I said in the mock, he doesn't have to rush into playing time, cuz Spencer's already here for atleast one more year, so he can get a full grasp on the position before seeing significant playing time.

Here is the analysis of Tank from nfl.com. The first line of the strengths suggests that they also believe he'd fit in at the LE spot in the 4-3.

Analysis

Strengths
Carradine flashes explosion off the snap to challenge the lateral agility of right tackles, and can swipe them away with strong hands to slingshot into the pocket. He also plays with the leverage of a shorter player, brings a strong initial punch to bull lesser tackles off the ball, and simply shoves tight ends away like ragdolls in the run game. Thereís certainly no issue with his motor, as he will hustle to the sideline if the play can be made.
Weaknesses
Though Carradine shows most all of the physical attributes teams covet in a defensive end, his lack of experience is a negative. And if he isnít on the field for any extended period of time in 2012, it might be tough for scouts to give him a starterís grade because they donít know what his level of stamina against better competition.
NFL Comparison
Justin Tuck
Bottom Line
On most other defenses, Carradine would have started as a first-year junior college transfer, but Bjoern Werner and Brandon Jenkins limited his snaps in 2011. Still, he flashed real athleticism and strength and was able to take the starting right defensive end spot by the horns when Jenkins was sidelined for the season. Carradine appeared to be headed for a first-round selection, but a torn ACL will limit his work prior to April's draft. The talent is certainly there, however.

The listing I saw on him had his weight at 264 which was concerning to me. 275/280 is much better for the position.

I haven't studied Carradine much. I glanced at him while watching Werner but haven't put in the time yet.

DrewyVuitton
03-12-2013, 01:46 PM
not in love with the carradine pick i see the potential but i feel like he can only be a pass rush specialist with the personnel the cowboys already have on defense.

i really don't think brandon williams is gonna be around by the time our 3rd rounder comes around, i really like him but he has some pass rush potential as a nose tackle, which should only push his value up


duke williams :great:

as for michael, he did have ridiculous combine and is probably the most gifted back in this class, but i agree and disagree with drewy. i agree that he aint gonna be around in the fifth, but i disagree about the off the field stuff, its more on the field concerns, well really football character concerns, how much does football mean to him, and once he gets the money and notoriety will he continue to dedicate himself to the game, and for that reason i don't see jason garrett signing off on him

Yes, I should have said character concerns. I don't know any of the details of what happened, I'm not sure if they're available, but I know he was in Sumlin's doghouse

CowboysBeastMode
03-12-2013, 04:55 PM
Yes, I should have said character concerns. I don't know any of the details of what happened, I'm not sure if they're available, but I know he was in Sumlin's doghouseshowing up late to practice, falling asleep in meetings you know the kinda stuff that pushed dez down in the draft

D-Unit
03-13-2013, 01:31 PM
Trouble falling asleep tonight, got football on the mind. So I decided to write up a quick mock draft. It goes quite a bit different than my last one, and focuses heavy on the trenches. Here goes nothing.....


Chance Warmack- Alabama G- I have a tough time imagining 5 offensive linemen, including 2 OG's, going before 18. I think the 3 tackles are more likely to be taken, simply because of the need of that position. I think that Cooper will appeal more to teams because of his versatility. This is why I believe Warmack will be the one to slide, and Dallas capitalizes. Plug him in at Guard and he'll be a staple there for the next decade.
Tank Carradine- Florida St. DE- I've seen mock drafts with him going in the back end of the 1st round, I don't see this happening. I believe teams will be weary on him not only because of the ACL, but also the somewhat lack of experience. This also is a typical Dallas Cowboys pick. They are known to take risks in the 2nd on people with injuries, i.e. Bruce Carter, Sean Lee. I'm liking this pick the more I think about it. He doesn't have to rush back year 1, because Spencer has the tag and starting at LE. I think we could bring him along slowly, and let him fully grasp the scheme before throwing him out there. Also, Rod Marinelli will be salivating at the potential.
Brandon Williams- Missouri Southern DT- Rod Marinelli is definitely giddy in the war room now. I love this guys potential. With Spencer coming back, I could see Crawford working more as the 3 tech, along with Hatcher. Ratliff could also fill in at the 3 tech along with the 1 tech. Lissemore is at the 1 tech, but who else? I believe Brandon Williams can be that guy. Last mock I took him in the 2nd, but lately have seen him falling further down in mocks (for some reason). Having Rod Marinelli on board also really paid a huge factor in this decision. If anyone can squeeze out the potential of a kid like this, its Marinelli.
Duke Williams- Nevada Safety- Safety position has to be addressed. I believe they will bring in a mid level free agent, but the draft could also serve well at this position. Haven't got to see a ton of film on him, but from what I've seen, he looks promising. Also, I would love to hear the Dallas crowd yelling out DDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKEEE!!!!! every play he makes.
Christine Michael- Texas A&M RB- This is another position where Dallas needs to inject some youth. This kid has the size, and is athletic as well. Another reason I like him is his limited wear and tear. He ran in a RB by committee at Texas A&M, so that means he should have very fresh legs coming into the league.
Earl Wolff- - N.C. State Safety- I know I know, I already drafted a Safety, but I think we could double up at this position to induce even more competition in camp. Also, this dude is an athlete. At 6'0" and 207 lbs, he has the size to play the position, but he also ran his 40 in the 4.4's. Worst case scenario, he can come in and be a stud on special teams.

There's my second mock of the year. Everything will change pretty drastically after free agency, but that's why I wanted to do this before it starts. I didn't a couple mid level free agents to get in my way of the draft. Also, 900+ lbs combined for the first 3 picks, it's time to start winning battles in the trenches.

I had Earl Wolff in my mock too. I'm a big fan of his draft value.

Witten4HOF
03-18-2013, 10:15 AM
Current Cap Situation +175k

CUTS

Vickers savings 1.2 mil
Free(June 1st) 7 mil
Spears(June 1st) 2 mil

Draft

8) Buffalo Bills select- Chance Warmack G Alabama
10) Tennesee Titans select- Jonathan Cooper G NC
13) Tampa Bay Bucs select- Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
15) New Orleans Saints select Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri

1) Tavon Austin 5'9 175 lbs, WR West Virginia-The team has been rumored to be very interesting in Austin and with both interior line prospects/ Vaccaro gone he is the highest player on the board. It may seem to be a luxary pick but imo it is very important to build up the offense to be effective post Romo. Tavon is tailer made for the Air Coryell, he has elite change of direction skills to be highly disruptive in underneath routes as Dez/Miles push verticle to eliminate saftey coverage. Developing another WR threat is a necessity considering Miles will eventually become a cap casulty.

2) Kyle Long 6'6 313, OT Oregon Long proved at the combine that he has the athleticism and raw skills to develop into a plus tackle in this league. He also has the positional versatility to kick inside to guard if need be which the team values. Either way Long has the talent to lock down either the RG/RT postion his rookie season while he continues to refine his skills.

3) Barrett Jones 6'4 306, OG/C Alabama Concerns about his recovery from a lisfranc injury and the future impact that it might play in future injury knocks Jones down the boards. Barrett has 1st round technique and even with his average athleticism he is a high ceiling/ low floor type of player. If healthy he will turn into a Kyle Kosier type player at worst.

4) Sanders Commings 6'0 216, S Georgia Commings has experience as both a CB/S and is a physical presence in the secondary. He has the athleticism to matchup with tightends in coverage and should be successful in the deep half. He has a simple assault charge against him for allegedly shaking his girlfriend, that issue will have to be cleared through the team.

5) Knile Davis 5'11 227, RB Arkansas Davis once looked to be a early selection before a series of injuries changed the way he attacked the los. While he still has very good triangle numbers his production has tanked over the last couple of seasons as he tends to run away from contact. Still his potential is very high if he can return to form, especially from a reserve roll.

6) Stansly Maponga 6'2 256, DE TCU Maponga has already been scheduled for a visit at Valley Ranch and on tape looks like a solid prospect. While he might not be elite at anything he looks to be solid all the way around and has a motor that runs hot all the time.

Undrafted Free Agents
Mitchell Gale 6'2 233, QB Abilene Christian
Mark Harrison 6'3 226, WR Rutgers
Michael Williams 6'6 270, TE Alabama
Taimi Tutogi 6'1 255, FB Arizona

Mike Catapano 6'4 270, DE Princeton
Johnathan Stewart 6'4 242 OLB Texas A&M
Daxton Swanson 5'10 186, CB Sam Houston St

Post June 1st Cap/Signings

+10.4 mil
Ronde Barber S-- Barber is still contemplating retiring and will wade in free agency for a while. Essentially he will either resign with Tampa or retire but the chance to reunite with Kiffin might draw him out to Big D. Monte could also offer Barber the chance to get his feet wet as a player coach in the secondary. 2 yr 6 mil(1.5 mil hit 2013)

Amobi Okoye DT- This is a move to get a young talented player that hasn't reached his potential. Marinelli had him in Chicago and could continue to develop him into a good rotational 3 tech. 2 yrs 1.9 mil ( 700,000 2013 cap hit)

Cedric Griffin CB-- A veteran reserve needed to be brought in after the departure of Mike Jenkins. Griffin has experience in the cover two from his time in Minnesota and has played nickle coverage in Washington. 2yr 5mil ( 1.5 mil 2013 cap hit)

+6.3 mil in cap space to sign draft picks.

D-Unit
03-19-2013, 03:30 PM
Current Cap Situation +175k

CUTS

Vickers savings 1.2 mil
Free(June 1st) 7 mil
Spears(June 1st) 2 mil

Draft

8) Buffalo Bills select- Chance Warmack G Alabama
10) Tennesee Titans select- Jonathan Cooper G NC
13) Tampa Bay Bucs select- Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
15) New Orleans Saints select Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri

1) Tavon Austin 5'9 175 lbs, WR West Virginia-The team has been rumored to be very interesting in Austin and with both interior line prospects/ Vaccaro gone he is the highest player on the board. It may seem to be a luxary pick but imo it is very important to build up the offense to be effective post Romo. Tavon is tailer made for the Air Coryell, he has elite change of direction skills to be highly disruptive in underneath routes as Dez/Miles push verticle to eliminate saftey coverage. Developing another WR threat is a necessity considering Miles will eventually become a cap casulty.

2) Kyle Long 6'6 313, OT Oregon Long proved at the combine that he has the athleticism and raw skills to develop into a plus tackle in this league. He also has the positional versatility to kick inside to guard if need be which the team values. Either way Long has the talent to lock down either the RG/RT postion his rookie season while he continues to refine his skills.

3) Barrett Jones 6'4 306, OG/C Alabama Concerns about his recovery from a lisfranc injury and the future impact that it might play in future injury knocks Jones down the boards. Barrett has 1st round technique and even with his average athleticism he is a high ceiling/ low floor type of player. If healthy he will turn into a Kyle Kosier type player at worst.

4) Sanders Commings 6'0 216, S Georgia Commings has experience as both a CB/S and is a physical presence in the secondary. He has the athleticism to matchup with tightends in coverage and should be successful in the deep half. He has a simple assault charge against him for allegedly shaking his girlfriend, that issue will have to be cleared through the team.

5) Knile Davis 5'11 227, RB Arkansas Davis once looked to be a early selection before a series of injuries changed the way he attacked the los. While he still has very good triangle numbers his production has tanked over the last couple of seasons as he tends to run away from contact. Still his potential is very high if he can return to form, especially from a reserve roll.

6) Stansly Maponga 6'2 256, DE TCU Maponga has already been scheduled for a visit at Valley Ranch and on tape looks like a solid prospect. While he might not be elite at anything he looks to be solid all the way around and has a motor that runs hot all the time.

Undrafted Free Agents
Mitchell Gale 6'2 233, QB Abilene Christian
Mark Harrison 6'3 226, WR Rutgers
Michael Williams 6'6 270, TE Alabama
Taimi Tutogi 6'1 255, FB Arizona

Mike Catapano 6'4 270, DE Princeton
Johnathan Stewart 6'4 242 OLB Texas A&M
Daxton Swanson 5'10 186, CB Sam Houston St

Post June 1st Cap/Signings

+10.4 mil
Ronde Barber S-- Barber is still contemplating retiring and will wade in free agency for a while. Essentially he will either resign with Tampa or retire but the chance to reunite with Kiffin might draw him out to Big D. Monte could also offer Barber the chance to get his feet wet as a player coach in the secondary. 2 yr 6 mil(1.5 mil hit 2013)

Amobi Okoye DT- This is a move to get a young talented player that hasn't reached his potential. Marinelli had him in Chicago and could continue to develop him into a good rotational 3 tech. 2 yrs 1.9 mil ( 700,000 2013 cap hit)

Cedric Griffin CB-- A veteran reserve needed to be brought in after the departure of Mike Jenkins. Griffin has experience in the cover two from his time in Minnesota and has played nickle coverage in Washington. 2yr 5mil ( 1.5 mil 2013 cap hit)

+6.3 mil in cap space to sign draft picks.
Tavon in Round 1??? Wow, that'd be an eye opener. Too bad we just gave Miles Austin more future guaranteed money when we restructured him. I don't see the team going WR that early anymore. I really wish we had threatened Miles that we would cut him in order to get him to rework a cheaper contract. The idea of Tavon here is exciting and I don't doubt the ROI, but this one is a little unnerving.

Long and Jones in subsequent rounds makes the Tavon pick easier to swallow.

Overall I like it. Especially like Johnathan Stewart as an UDFA and Ronde Barber in FA. Same as my mock. :)

HEISMANHERSCHEL
03-20-2013, 10:30 PM
I hated this when I noticed you had a wr in the first. But after reading it all, I have to say i like it. Not enough in the OL department for me personally, but I have to admit I like it when factoring in all the off season stuff.

Rev Bolyard
03-21-2013, 11:53 AM
Trouble falling asleep tonight, got football on the mind. So I decided to write up a quick mock draft. It goes quite a bit different than my last one, and focuses heavy on the trenches. Here goes nothing.....


Chance Warmack- Alabama G- I have a tough time imagining 5 offensive linemen, including 2 OG's, going before 18. I think the 3 tackles are more likely to be taken, simply because of the need of that position. I think that Cooper will appeal more to teams because of his versatility. This is why I believe Warmack will be the one to slide, and Dallas capitalizes. Plug him in at Guard and he'll be a staple there for the next decade.
Tank Carradine- Florida St. DE- I've seen mock drafts with him going in the back end of the 1st round, I don't see this happening. I believe teams will be weary on him not only because of the ACL, but also the somewhat lack of experience. This also is a typical Dallas Cowboys pick. They are known to take risks in the 2nd on people with injuries, i.e. Bruce Carter, Sean Lee. I'm liking this pick the more I think about it. He doesn't have to rush back year 1, because Spencer has the tag and starting at LE. I think we could bring him along slowly, and let him fully grasp the scheme before throwing him out there. Also, Rod Marinelli will be salivating at the potential.
Brandon Williams- Missouri Southern DT- Rod Marinelli is definitely giddy in the war room now. I love this guys potential. With Spencer coming back, I could see Crawford working more as the 3 tech, along with Hatcher. Ratliff could also fill in at the 3 tech along with the 1 tech. Lissemore is at the 1 tech, but who else? I believe Brandon Williams can be that guy. Last mock I took him in the 2nd, but lately have seen him falling further down in mocks (for some reason). Having Rod Marinelli on board also really paid a huge factor in this decision. If anyone can squeeze out the potential of a kid like this, its Marinelli.
Duke Williams- Nevada Safety- Safety position has to be addressed. I believe they will bring in a mid level free agent, but the draft could also serve well at this position. Haven't got to see a ton of film on him, but from what I've seen, he looks promising. Also, I would love to hear the Dallas crowd yelling out DDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKEEE!!!!! every play he makes.
Christine Michael- Texas A&M RB- This is another position where Dallas needs to inject some youth. This kid has the size, and is athletic as well. Another reason I like him is his limited wear and tear. He ran in a RB by committee at Texas A&M, so that means he should have very fresh legs coming into the league.
Earl Wolff- - N.C. State Safety- I know I know, I already drafted a Safety, but I think we could double up at this position to induce even more competition in camp. Also, this dude is an athlete. At 6'0" and 207 lbs, he has the size to play the position, but he also ran his 40 in the 4.4's. Worst case scenario, he can come in and be a stud on special teams.

There's my second mock of the year. Everything will change pretty drastically after free agency, but that's why I wanted to do this before it starts. I didn't a couple mid level free agents to get in my way of the draft. Also, 900+ lbs combined for the first 3 picks, it's time to start winning battles in the trenches.


Easily my favorite mock draft of all that I've seen. If only a developmental tackle was in there (that kid from Colorado perhaps?), would be an absolute fantasy.

CowboysBeastMode
03-25-2013, 10:37 AM
Current Cap Situation +175k

CUTS

Vickers savings 1.2 mil
Free(June 1st) 7 mil
Spears(June 1st) 2 mil

Draft

8) Buffalo Bills select- Chance Warmack G Alabama
10) Tennesee Titans select- Jonathan Cooper G NC
13) Tampa Bay Bucs select- Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
15) New Orleans Saints select Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri

1) Tavon Austin 5'9 175 lbs, WR West Virginia-The team has been rumored to be very interesting in Austin and with both interior line prospects/ Vaccaro gone he is the highest player on the board. It may seem to be a luxary pick but imo it is very important to build up the offense to be effective post Romo. Tavon is tailer made for the Air Coryell, he has elite change of direction skills to be highly disruptive in underneath routes as Dez/Miles push verticle to eliminate saftey coverage. Developing another WR threat is a necessity considering Miles will eventually become a cap casulty.
did you still have cordarrelle pattterson on the board at 18?

Witten4HOF
03-25-2013, 02:46 PM
did you still have cordarrelle pattterson on the board at 18?

No, I figured him in at #16 to the Rams, just forgot to put him in the draft breakdown. I am a big fan of Patterson, he is a nice fit for the scheme as well and is has a similar skill set to Dez. If they were both on the board I think it would be an interesting call though. Austin is much more polished as a route runner then people give him credit for and has NFL ready hands. Patterson has a higher ceiling but is going to have a bigger learning curve especially when it comes to expanding his route tree.

Either way I don't think you lose, Tavon has the best stop and go/ zero to sixty acceleration to create space I've seen in college since Reggie Bush. In a scheme designed to push the safeties in deep coverage to open up the underneath routes he can certainly cause havoc for opposing defenses. With Patterson you get a guy who is hard to cover 1 vs 1 on the outside. He can catch the short ball and break tackles to get in the open field or use his big frame to go get the ball in tight coverage. Not to mention he can run past most corners if he catches them sleeping.

The interesting thing is that our WR coach Dooley has a feel for Patterson since he was the head coach at Tennessee last year. If anybody he should have the most input if it came down to those two players because he knows what Cordarelle's work ethic and learning capacity are.

D-Unit
03-25-2013, 03:21 PM
Mid-Offseason Mock

Current Moves


Cuts:
Marcus Spears (June 1)
Gerald Sensabaugh
Dan Connor

Key departures in FA:
Kevin Ogletree
John Phillips

Franchise Tag:
Anthony Spencer

Restructured Contracts:
Demarcus Ware
Brandon Carr
Jay Ratliff
Orlando Scandrick
Miles Austin
Jason Witten
Ryan Cook
Mackenzy Bernadeau

Re-signed:
Phil Costa
JP LaDoucer
Ernie Sims



Future Moves (Mocked):

Cuts:
Doug Free (June 1)

The fact that the team has not restructured Free's deal is a GREAT sign! If they did that would mean that they want him long term. Since I don't think that is the case, I think he's destined to be a June 1st cut. If I'm running the Cowboys, that designation would've been done a long time ago. Same time as Spears.

Restructures:
Tony Romo

This has to get done asap. FAs are being gobbled up as we speak! C'mon dude! This is a joke already.

Franchise Tag:
Anthony Spencer

I want to keep the tag on him. I hear the rumors about extending him, but I'm not really interested in that yet. Let's see how this year plays out with him in the new system. If it doesn't work out, we just shot ourselves in the foot again. I know Jerry wants some FA action, but it should come at the extension of Romo, not Spencer. Crossing fingers.


FA:

Maybe we don't get all of these guys, but here's a short list nonetheless.

Ronde Barber, S
Sticking to my guns here. I really hope Barber lands with us and I'm glad the team is positioning themselves to do so. When Tampa signed Dashon Golston I was smiling ear to ear with the thought that Barber's days in Tampa are done. If the Cowboys want Kiffin to turn things around fast, they better bring this guy in. He would be a huge boon to our secondary. I know folks criticize his age, but this guy is the perfect stop gap.

Brandon Moore, OG
Bill Callahan knows all about Moore. Bringing him here would help shore up our OL and give us options in the draft. As an immediate impact guy, he's exactly what we need. He's 32 years old, so the FA calls haven't stormed through his door, but we need help asap and he's already familiar with Callahan.

Antoine Winfield, CB
I have to think that he's been one of the best Tampa 2 CBs of all time. Definitely one of the best run stuffing CBs and to add to that, a very savvy blitzer. While no spring chicken, our secondary is very shallow and Winfield, just like Ronde, would be another field mentor to help this defense transition smoothly. A quality stop gap solution who could finish his career here. Won't need to start which should help prolong his career and keep him fresh in games.

Justin Durant, LB
Too many FAs??? Maybe, but I think Romo's extension is coming soon and in addition either Spencer will get a new contract or Doug Free will be designated a June 1st cut like Spears was. I'm hoping for the latter as a new Spencer contract would worry me. Durant is visiting today, and the last deal he signed was a 2 year $5.5M contract. I think something similar should be expected.

Draft:

R1: C/OG Jonathan Cooper, UNC

Everything I read tells me that the Cowboys have doubts that he'll be there for us to pick, so I'm glad they're doing their homework looking at other options just in case. But I'm pretty confident that he will be. David DeCastro was everyone's Love Child last year often labeled the best OG in a decade. Even he lasted till 21 when all was said and done. I can't believe 2 OGs will go before 18. I'll believe it when I see it. He'll give us options at LG and C.


R2: OT Menelik Watson, FSU

Doug Free's status is to be determined by what happens in the draft. Since that's the case, I don't see us waiting long to draft a tackle. I've said this before, but I think there are a lot of similarities between him and Tyron Smith. Both RTs in college, oozing with athleticism with a unique blend of finesse and power. Both incredibly raw, but Watson even moreso. I think that in combination with other OT risers in Terron Armstead and Kyle Long will cause him to fall to us in the second. I didn't realize how far down we select in Round 2, but it sucks. Watson will most expectantly have some struggles as a rookie... but I can't believe he'd be as bad as Free was last year. He really played like he didn't care. If we used our first 2 picks on OL, Cowboys Nation might be so happy they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.


R3: DJ Swearinger, South Carolina

This f'n guy gets me NUTS! I pray to God that the Cowboys get him. He's my favorite player in the draft. The key to Seattle's defense is not in the journeyman DTs that they have. It's in their Safety tadem of Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor. Swearinger is a BEAST. He's the kind of gamebreaker and inspirational leader that can take this D to that level it needs to be at. Because he loves to hit, he's a perfect fit for Kiffin's approach.


R4: DE David Bass, Missouri Western St

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/05/f0546331-8042-50b3-b9b3-052a1a587e87/513160a8e4ac5.preview-620.jpg

It's that time of the draft where they Cowboys take someone and you're like... Who??? Did any other team have him this high?? WTF?! But make no mistake, Bass is the kind of guy that the Cowboys love to take gambles on. He's another small school guy with great measurables and eye popping stats. This year's Robert Brewster/David Arkin/Matt Johnson-like pick. They aren't gonna catch me by surprise this year!!! haha! Bass stands 6'5, 275 with a super athletic muscular build. He opened eyes when he ran a 4.69 40 at his Pro Day and in 4 years at MW St he racked up 210 tackles, 57.5 TFL, and 39.5 Sacks! He possess the character that Garrett looks for. "Determined" is one of the things Bass says helps him with his success. Dude's a freakin' youtube beast! A shot in the dark here, but I had to do it to make me feel like this mock was semi-realistic. LOL!


R5: RB Kenjon Barner, Oregon

Back to more noticeable names...of course, I love Jawan Jamison, but just to mix it up a little, if gettin' jiggy wit it is what our RB coach wants then Kenjon Barner fits that bill better. He'd definitely bring more speed and excitement to our squad and I have a huge hunch that Garrett wants to make this offense EXPLOSIVE! Barner is a guy you rather have on your own sideline than your enemy's. I can just see Chip Kelly bringing him to Philly and that doesn't sound too fun.


R6: WR Ace Sanders, South Carolina

I don't care what his draft value is, there is NOT a 5-6 round difference between Tavon Austin and Ace Sanders in my opinion. Some teams may look at Sanders as strictly a kick returner and weren't all impressed with his timed 40 at the combine (4.58), but Ace has the most unbelievable ability to switch gears and change his speed and direction. His size isn't an issue with me. The Welkers, Amendolas and even our own Beasley have shown ability to make it in this league. But I think Sanders is better than Beasley because he has better YAC ability and that's exactly what we need out of that slot WR spot. Getting him in Round 6 feels like a crime.

UDFA
MLB Johnathan Stewart, Texas A&M



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Roster:

QB Tony Romo / Kyle Orton
- Some folks are more worried about a #3 QB, but I'm not interested in using a pick or FA $ on a QB unless he's the future starting QB. Minimum vet $ or an UDFA suits me fine for now.

RB Demarco Murray / Kenjon Barner / Lance Dunbar
- Barner fits the bill for the the type of guy we're supposedly looking for. We'll need another body, but UDFA has been shown to do that in the past.

FB Lawrence Vickers
- I'm not in favor of cutting him.

WR Dez Bryant / Danny Coale
WR Miles Austin / Dwayne Harris
SWR Ace Sanders / Dan Beasley
- I do think we need to spend a pick on WR in this draft. Whoever it is, I hope he's a guy who has excellent YAC ability.

TE Jason Witten / James Hanna
- I could see us going with a TE somewhere. I like Toilolo, but keep an eye on Travis Kelce.

LT Tyron Smith / Jeremy Parnell
LG Jonathan Cooper / Nate Livings
C Phil Costa / Mackenzy Bernadeau
RG Brandon Moore / Ron Leary
RT Menelik Watson / Jeremy Parnell

- Give us that kind of line and depth and we'll be going places in 2013. That didn't even include Ryan Cook, David Arkin, Darrian Weems or Kevin Kowalski. Practice squad fodder.

-----------------------------

DE Demarcus Ware / David Bass
UT Jay Ratliff / Jason Hatcher / Tyrone Crawford / Sean Lissemore
NT Jason Hatcher / Jay Ratliff / Sean Lissemore
DE Anthony Spencer / Tyrone Crawford

- I see a lot of versatility among our "Rush" Linemen. Crawford might end up as the ultimate subpackage guy.

WLB Bruce Carter / Ernie Sims
MLB Sean Lee / Johnathan Stewart
SLB Justin Durant / Kyle Wilber / Alex Albright

- Locked and loaded baby. Just stay healthy.. PLEASE!!!

CB Brandon Carr / Orlando Scandrick
CB Morris Claiborne / Sterling Moore
NB Antoine Winfield

- Winfield's addition will allow Kiffin to pull some magical stuff and go deep into his playbook as Winfield has been one of the best blitzing CBs in the NFL during his career.

SS Barry Church / DJ Swearinger
FS Ronde Barber / Matt Johnson

- Development is key at these positions, but Ronde is the perfect mentor for the group.


K Dan Bailey
P Dan Moorman
KR Ace Sanders
PR Dwayne Harris

Macarthur
03-25-2013, 04:31 PM
I like what you are doing. I think it's a little ambitious on the FA stuff. I think we try to sign a S and prob one OL.

Also, don't sleep on Brian Price on the DL. The kids got talent if he's got his life on the right track.

DrewyVuitton
03-25-2013, 04:40 PM
Mid-Offseason Mock

Current Moves


Cuts:
Marcus Spears (June 1)
Gerald Sensabaugh
Dan Connor

Key departures in FA:
Kevin Ogletree
John Phillips

Franchise Tag:
Anthony Spencer

Restructured Contracts:
Demarcus Ware
Brandon Carr
Jay Ratliff
Orlando Scandrick
Miles Austin
Jason Witten
Ryan Cook
Mackenzy Bernadeau

Re-signed:
Phil Costa
JP LaDoucer
Ernie Sims



Future Moves (Mocked):

Cuts:
Doug Free (June 1)

The fact that the team has not restructured Free's deal is a GREAT sign! If they did that would mean that they want him long term. Since I don't think that is the case, I think he's destined to be a June 1st cut. If I'm running the Cowboys, that designation would've been done a long time ago. Same time as Spears.

Restructures:
Tony Romo

This has to get done asap. FAs are being gobbled up as we speak! C'mon dude! This is a joke already.

Franchise Tag:
Anthony Spencer

I want to keep the tag on him. I hear the rumors about extending him, but I'm not really interested in that yet. Let's see how this year plays out with him in the new system. If it doesn't work out, we just shot ourselves in the foot again. I know Jerry wants some FA action, but it should come at the extension of Romo, not Spencer. Crossing fingers.


FA:

Maybe we don't get all of these guys, but here's a short list nonetheless.

Ronde Barber, S
Sticking to my guns here. I really hope Barber lands with us and I'm glad the team is positioning themselves to do so. When Tampa signed Dashon Golston I was smiling ear to ear with the thought that Barber's days in Tampa are done. If the Cowboys want Kiffin to turn things around fast, they better bring this guy in. He would be a huge boon to our secondary. I know folks criticize his age, but this guy is the perfect stop gap.

Brandon Moore, OG
Bill Callahan knows all about Moore. Bringing him here would help shore up our OL and give us options in the draft. As an immediate impact guy, he's exactly what we need. He's 32 years old, so the FA calls haven't stormed through his door, but we need help asap and he's already familiar with Callahan.

Antoine Winfield, CB
I have to think that he's been one of the best Tampa 2 CBs of all time. Definitely one of the best run stuffing CBs and to add to that, a very savvy blitzer. While no spring chicken, our secondary is very shallow and Winfield, just like Ronde, would be another field mentor to help this defense transition smoothly. A quality stop gap solution who could finish his career here. Won't need to start which should help prolong his career and keep him fresh in games.

Justin Durant, LB
Too many FAs??? Maybe, but I think Romo's extension is coming soon and in addition either Spencer will get a new contract or Doug Free will be designated a June 1st cut like Spears was. I'm hoping for the latter as a new Spencer contract would worry me. Durant is visiting today, and the last deal he signed was a 2 year $5.5M contract. I think something similar should be expected.

Draft:

R1: C/OG Jonathan Cooper, UNC

Everything I read tells me that the Cowboys have doubts that he'll be there for us to pick, so I'm glad they're doing their homework looking at other options just in case. But I'm pretty confident that he will be. David DeCastro was everyone's Love Child last year often labeled the best OG in a decade. Even he lasted till 21 when all was said and done. I can't believe 2 OGs will go before 18. I'll believe it when I see it. He'll give us options at LG and C.


R2: OT Menelik Watson, FSU

Doug Free's status is to be determined by what happens in the draft. Since that's the case, I don't see us waiting long to draft a tackle. I've said this before, but I think there are a lot of similarities between him and Tyron Smith. Both RTs in college, oozing with athleticism with a unique blend of finesse and power. Both incredibly raw, but Watson even moreso. I think that in combination with other OT risers in Terron Armstead and Kyle Long will cause him to fall to us in the second. I didn't realize how far down we select in Round 2, but it sucks. Watson will most expectantly have some struggles as a rookie... but I can't believe he'd be as bad as Free was last year. He really played like he didn't care. If we used our first 2 picks on OL, Cowboys Nation might be so happy they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.


R3: DJ Swearinger, South Carolina

This f'n guy gets me NUTS! I pray to God that the Cowboys get him. He's my favorite player in the draft. The key to Seattle's defense is not in the journeyman DTs that they have. It's in their Safety tadem of Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor. Swearinger is a BEAST. He's the kind of gamebreaker and inspirational leader that can take this D to that level it needs to be at. Because he loves to hit, he's a perfect fit for Kiffin's approach.


R4: DE David Bass, Missouri Western St

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/05/f0546331-8042-50b3-b9b3-052a1a587e87/513160a8e4ac5.preview-620.jpg

It's that time of the draft where they Cowboys take someone and you're like... Who??? Did any other team have him this high?? WTF?! But make no mistake, Bass is the kind of guy that the Cowboys love to take gambles on. He's another small school guy with great measurables and eye popping stats. This year's Robert Brewster/David Arkin/Matt Johnson-like pick. They aren't gonna catch me by surprise this year!!! haha! Bass stands 6'5, 275 with a super athletic muscular build. He opened eyes when he ran a 4.69 40 at his Pro Day and in 4 years at MW St he racked up 210 tackles, 57.5 TFL, and 39.5 Sacks! He possess the character that Garrett looks for. "Determined" is one of the things Bass says helps him with his success. Dude's a freakin' youtube beast! A shot in the dark here, but I had to do it to make me feel like this mock was semi-realistic. LOL!


R5: RB Kenjon Barner, Oregon

Back to more noticeable names...of course, I love Jawan Jamison, but just to mix it up a little, if gettin' jiggy wit it is what our RB coach wants then Kenjon Barner fits that bill better. He'd definitely bring more speed and excitement to our squad and I have a huge hunch that Garrett wants to make this offense EXPLOSIVE! Barner is a guy you rather have on your own sideline than your enemy's. I can just see Chip Kelly bringing him to Philly and that doesn't sound too fun.


R6: WR Ace Sanders, South Carolina

I don't care what his draft value is, there is NOT a 5-6 round difference between Tavon Austin and Ace Sanders in my opinion. Some teams may look at Sanders as strictly a kick returner and weren't all impressed with his timed 40 at the combine (4.58), but Ace has the most unbelievable ability to switch gears and change his speed and direction. His size isn't an issue with me. The Welkers, Amendolas and even our own Beasley have shown ability to make it in this league. But I think Sanders is better than Beasley because he has better YAC ability and that's exactly what we need out of that slot WR spot. Getting him in Round 6 feels like a crime.

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Roster:

QB Tony Romo / Kyle Orton
- Some folks are more worried about a #3 QB, but I'm not interested in using a pick or FA $ on a QB unless he's the future starting QB. Minimum vet $ or an UDFA suits me fine for now.

RB Demarco Murray / Kenjon Barner / Lance Dunbar
- Barner fits the bill for the the type of guy we're supposedly looking for. We'll need another body, but UDFA has been shown to do that in the past.

FB Lawrence Vickers
- I'm not in favor of cutting him.

WR Dez Bryant / Danny Coale
WR Miles Austin / Dwayne Harris
SWR Ace Sanders / Dan Beasley
- I do think we need to spend a pick on WR in this draft. Whoever it is, I hope he's a guy who has excellent YAC ability.

TE Jason Witten / James Hanna
- I could see us going with a TE somewhere. I like Toilolo, but keep an eye on Travis Kelce.

LT Tyron Smith / Jeremy Parnell
LG Jonathan Cooper / Nate Livings
C Phil Costa / Mackenzy Bernadeau
RG Brandon Moore / Ron Leary
RT Menelik Watson / Jeremy Parnell

- Give us that kind of line and depth and we'll be going places in 2013. That didn't even include Ryan Cook, David Arkin, Darrian Weems or Kevin Kowalski. Practice squad fodder.

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DE Demarcus Ware / David Bass
UT Jay Ratliff / Jason Hatcher / Tyrone Crawford / Sean Lissemore
NT Jason Hatcher / Jay Ratliff / Sean Lissemore
DE Anthony Spencer / Tyrone Crawford

- I see a lot of versatility among our "Rush" Linemen. Crawford might end up as the ultimate subpackage guy.

WLB Bruce Carter / Ernie Sims
MLB Sean Lee / Johnathan Stewart
SLB Justin Durant / Kyle Wilber / Alex Albright

- Locked and loaded baby. Just stay healthy.. PLEASE!!!

CB Brandon Carr / Orlando Scandrick
CB Morris Claiborne / Sterling Moore
NB Antoine Winfield

- Winfield's addition will allow Kiffin to pull some magical stuff and go deep into his playbook as Winfield has been one of the best blitzing CBs in the NFL during his career.

SS Barry Church / DJ Swearinger
FS Ronde Barber / Matt Johnson

- Development is key at these positions, but Ronde is the perfect mentor for the group.


K Dan Bailey
P Dan Moorman
KR Ace Sanders
PR Dwayne Harris



I actually like this. Only thing I'd like to see is UDFA Michael Williams. I think he could go as high as the 5th, but there's a chance he isn't drafted. Great #3 TE for jumbo sets.

Best blocking TE in this draft and honestly the best blocking TE I've seen inn the past several years.

leroyisgod
03-25-2013, 04:42 PM
I also feel the FA signings are a bit ambitious. I feel we'll get maybe 2.

LOVE the Baner draft choice. I hadn't really considered him much, but feel he'd be a great change of pace back.

D-Unit
03-25-2013, 04:48 PM
I also feel the FA signings are a bit ambitious. I feel we'll get maybe 2.

LOVE the Baner draft choice. I hadn't really considered him much, but feel he'd be a great change of pace back.
Yeah, I was leaning towards just making a list of potential FAs, but then said what the heck, I'll just list them as signees! Hahaha

Thanks for the reply!

DrewyVuitton
03-25-2013, 04:59 PM
Yeah, I was leaning towards just making a list of potential FAs, but then said what the heck, I'll just list them as signees! Hahaha

Thanks for the reply!

Although he's old and I'm typically against stop gaps I think Ronde is valuable because of his knowledge of the defense. He'd be able to coach Church, Carr, Claiborne on field and allow the team to develop Matt Johnson or a draft pick behind him.

Durant, as I've said before, is also a progress stopper but if the team isn't sold on Albright and Wilbur, why take a chance? Sign the guy.

Moore is better than any guard on the roster. Old, but an upgrade none the less.

Trogdor
03-25-2013, 05:16 PM
Love the FA moves. Love the majority of the draft. We have a lot of common ground between my upcoming mock and yours :)

One place we differ is our opinion of Swearinger. I love him as a prospect but I see him as a SS and not fully capable of playing Cover-1. I do like the hitting ability and him coming forward to deliver a hit. He's pretty stiff as well which really will limit his range in the back-end. He certainly fits the mold for the SS in a Kiffin defense though.

One of my favorite picks in that draft would be David Bass I think he's going to be a beast. Project him as the future SDE one characteristic that is super tough to teach is the ability to get off your block and swat passes at the LOS. I'm not sure there is a better prospect in that regard than Bass in this draft.

DrewyVuitton
03-25-2013, 05:25 PM
Love the FA moves. Love the majority of the draft. We have a lot of common ground between my upcoming mock and yours :)

One place we differ is our opinion of Swearinger. I love him as a prospect but I see him as a SS and not fully capable of playing Cover-1. I do like the hitting ability and him coming forward to deliver a hit. He's pretty stiff as well which really will limit his range in the back-end. He certainly fits the mold for the SS in a Kiffin defense though.

One of my favorite picks in that draft would be David Bass I think he's going to be a beast. Project him as the future SDE one characteristic that is super tough to teach is the ability to get off your block and swat passes at the LOS. I'm not sure there is a better prospect in that regard than Bass in this draft.

I think Swearinger is an interchangeable safety. He's got the athleticism to play cover-1, I think it comes down more to reactions/knowledge.

My biggest thing with him is the inconsistency where he'll make huge plays that put him on par with any other safety in the class, then he'll do some head scratching things.

I'll watch a half and I think meh. Then I watch the 2nd half and think he is just as good as any of the other safeties in this class. Everytime I rewatch him my opinion shifts. Very tough read for me.

D-Unit
03-25-2013, 06:01 PM
Love the FA moves. Love the majority of the draft. We have a lot of common ground between my upcoming mock and yours :)

One place we differ is our opinion of Swearinger. I love him as a prospect but I see him as a SS and not fully capable of playing Cover-1. I do like the hitting ability and him coming forward to deliver a hit. He's pretty stiff as well which really will limit his range in the back-end. He certainly fits the mold for the SS in a Kiffin defense though.

One of my favorite picks in that draft would be David Bass I think he's going to be a beast. Project him as the future SDE one characteristic that is super tough to teach is the ability to get off your block and swat passes at the LOS. I'm not sure there is a better prospect in that regard than Bass in this draft.
I have Swearinger at SS behind Church. But I also agree with Dewy that he's interchangeable. Personally, I'm not Church fan. So I see Swearinger overtaking him. Reason I keep going back to him despite his flaws is because he is a huge motivational leader and this team has lacked that for as long as I can remember. He's gonna be successful in the NFL because of his drive and passion for the game. Most likely we won't land him, but a team like Baltimore will and I will have to be jealous from the sidelines as he flourishes.

Glad you like Bass. I've been itching to talk about him but didn't want to until I was done with the mock. I really think he possesses everything Garrett looks for... the measurables, the production, and the motor/passion/drive. It's easy to find guys with 1 or 2 of those 3 keys, but not one who possesses all of them.

leroyisgod
03-25-2013, 07:21 PM
I know the response to this post is going to be "we didn't have the money", but do you believe at all that the Jones's are finally buying into the building your team via the draft mentality? I look at the teams in this league that are consistently successful and that's what they do. They occasionally go after some bigger FA's, but mainly look for value in FA over flash.

D-Unit
03-25-2013, 07:41 PM
I know the response to this post is going to be "we didn't have the money", but do you believe at all that the Jones's are finally buying into the building your team via the draft mentality? I look at the teams in this league that are consistently successful and that's what they do. They occasionally go after some bigger FA's, but mainly look for value in FA over flash.
I dunno... I think they spend it as soon as they have it. Only reason we aren't spending now or haven't in the past is because we haven't had cap space to do it. Whenever we do, we find ways to use it all up. Cowboys are typically one of the highest spenders of the cap annually.

Our problem is we often overpay to keep our guys around (Free, Spears, Scandrick, Church) and don't always know when the right time is to move them. Take Mike Jenkins... last offseason we probably could've gotten a draft pick for him. This season, instead of trading Miles Austin, we gave him more guaranteed money just to get him to restructure. We're not paying him less on his contract (just less this year). Jay Ratliff should be shopped. I would even shop Hatcher who is a FA next season. We have dead money on the books for Sensabaugh. Many here openly criticized that extension from the start. So yeah, we still create our own messes that we have to deal with. Things aren't pretty.

leroyisgod
03-25-2013, 07:45 PM
I dunno... I think they spend it as soon as they have it. Only reason we aren't spending now or haven't in the past is because we haven't had cap space to do it. Whenever we do, we find ways to use it all up. Cowboys are typically one of the highest spenders of the cap annually.

Our problem is we often overpay to keep our guys around (Free, Spears, Scandrick, Church) and don't always know when the right time is to move them. Take Mike Jenkins... last offseason we probably could've gotten a draft pick for him. This season, instead of trading Miles Austin, we gave him more guaranteed money just to get him to restructure. We're not paying him less on his contract (just less this year). Jay Ratliff should be shopped. I would even shop Hatcher who is a FA next season. We have dead money on the books for Sensabaugh. Many here openly criticized that extension from the start. So yeah, we still create our own messes that we have to deal with. Things aren't pretty.

Pittsburgh is the ideal team IMO when it comes to knowing when to cut a player 1 year too early as opposed to 1 year too late. And also not overpaying for players too. They could've paid Wallace last year, but they didn't and the Dolphins way overspent on him.

DrewyVuitton
03-25-2013, 09:21 PM
I have Swearinger at SS behind Church. But I also agree with Dewy that he's interchangeable. Personally, I'm not Church fan. So I see Swearinger overtaking him. Reason I keep going back to him despite his flaws is because he is a huge motivational leader and this team has lacked that for as long as I can remember. He's gonna be successful in the NFL because of his drive and passion for the game. Most likely we won't land him, but a team like Baltimore will and I will have to be jealous from the sidelines as he flourishes.

Glad you like Bass. I've been itching to talk about him but didn't want to until I was done with the mock. I really think he possesses everything Garrett looks for... the measurables, the production, and the motor/passion/drive. It's easy to find guys with 1 or 2 of those 3 keys, but not one who possesses all of them.

It's my opinion that most safeties are interchangeable these days. In fact, I'd say the more correct distinction is between "interchangeable" and "Pure FS"

Essentially every safety can cover well enough these days. The question is can they cover and maintain physicality, or are they strictly a cover guy like Rambo?

Rarely do we see a pure SS anymore. With so many college offenses running the spread, you just can't have those players on your roster. They just aren't valuable.

It's funny to see how people are categorizing safeties. If you go on NFL.com and look at their mock drafts, Daniel Jeremiah has Vacarro listed as a SS and has Elam & Cyprien listed as FS. So there really isn't a consensus as to what you label these guys.

Each has strengths, but it's more appropriate to call them safeties these days as opposed to labeling them Strong vs Free. Even Cam Chancellor drops back to cover people and does it well.

That's why the only safety I really don't like this year is Eric Reid because he's a guy I don't think has the ability to cover. I don't know of he gained weight or what but his senior tape in coverage tells me he will struggle in coverage at the next level.

Vacarro, Elam, Cyprien, Swearinger, Rambo, Thomas, Williams etc. are all guys that can cover. The distinction between them is "who can cover the slot" and "who plays with physicality in the run game"

The pure SS is dead. Ain't nobody got time for that.

CowboysBeastMode
03-26-2013, 12:19 AM
No, I figured him in at #16 to the Rams, just forgot to put him in the draft breakdown. I am a big fan of Patterson, he is a nice fit for the scheme as well and is has a similar skill set to Dez. If they were both on the board I think it would be an interesting call though. Austin is much more polished as a route runner then people give him credit for and has NFL ready hands. Patterson has a higher ceiling but is going to have a bigger learning curve especially when it comes to expanding his route tree.

Either way I don't think you lose, Tavon has the best stop and go/ zero to sixty acceleration to create space I've seen in college since Reggie Bush. In a scheme designed to push the safeties in deep coverage to open up the underneath routes he can certainly cause havoc for opposing defenses. With Patterson you get a guy who is hard to cover 1 vs 1 on the outside. He can catch the short ball and break tackles to get in the open field or use his big frame to go get the ball in tight coverage. Not to mention he can run past most corners if he catches them sleeping.

The interesting thing is that our WR coach Dooley has a feel for Patterson since he was the head coach at Tennessee last year. If anybody he should have the most input if it came down to those two players because he knows what Cordarelle's work ethic and learning capacity are.if patterson and austin were both on the board, who would you take?

DrewyVuitton
03-26-2013, 01:58 AM
if patterson and austin were both on the board, who would you take?

I listened Pattersons interview and I see why people think he's going to have trouble learning the an NFL offense.

He sounds like Dez.

If a team is willing to wait 3-4 years for him to blossom and are willing to push him, he's got the potential to be one of the best in the league.

Austin gives you immediate impact from day 1. Garrett is in "win now to save my job" mode and Jerry thinks this team is a championship contender.

I think Austin would be the guy for the Cowboys for those reasons. Plus he brings a different demensional than Dez.

D-Unit
03-26-2013, 02:53 AM
I'd take Austin before Patterson. But I'd take Ace Sanders in Round 6 before Tavon Austin in Round 1.

Trogdor
03-27-2013, 12:19 PM
Midway Through Offseason Mock:

For completed moves please see D-Unit's latest mock (Page 6).

Pre-Draft Moves:

Negotiate a New 5-year Contract for Tony Romo
Terms: 5 years - $85 million; 40 million guaranteed (average 17m per)
Total 2013 Cap Savings - $6,000,000

Sign Will Allen
Familiarity with the scheme (six season with Tampa) and vital cog as a special teamer. Started for Pittsburgh for a number of games last season after injury.

Sign Justin Durant
Athletic and fits the Kiffin SLB mold. Much better run defender than pass defender but has the ability to do both effectively.

Sign Brandon Moore
Makes too much sense. Best guard on the market but his age means this is not a long-term solution.


DRAFT

Dallas is on the clock at 18 and receives a phone call from San Francisco whom are looking to nab an elite talent for their secondary (Xavier Rhodes). They currently have 14 picks which certainly won't all make their roster. They will jump all over the opportunity to land the #2 CB in the class.

18 and 47 for 31, 34, 74

49ers trade up for Xavier Rhodes and currently have 14 picks which certainly won't all make their roster. They will jump all over the opportunity to land the #2 CB in the class.

1(31): Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International
Our future SS. Makes plays and adept at playing deep half. His stock is still rising since the Senior Bowl and it is fair to question whether he will be available here.

2(34): Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
Elite athleticism and intelligence. Compete for the starting job at RT with Parnell. If Armstead doesn't win out he can be active on gameday as the swing tackle and has the athleticism to be a blocking TE in power formations. Has visited with Dallas.

3(74): Brian Winter, OG, Kent State
OT to OG conversion. Former wrestler who uses his hands very well. Powerful once he locks on and moves well for a guard. Plays with a wider base which allows him to anchor very well.

3(86): Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
High motor and very quick burst off the snap. Powerful upper body and utilizes rips and swims effectively. Needs an effective defensive line coach to keep his pad level low to help achieve potential.

4(111): Josh Evans, FS, Florida
Excellent athlete. Solid open field tackler. Played deep allowing Elam to roam and be the playmaker of the Gator defense. Has "cornerback hips" in that he's fluid and able to quickly change direction and cover ground. Needs to add bulk without losing speed for the NFL.

5(144): Kerwynn Williams, RB Utah State
Jitterbug and direct competition for Dunbar as the speed back. Look for a post-draft veteran to compete for the backup role.

6(175): Stansly Maponga, DE, Texas Christian
Undersized but natural pass-rusher. Very nice array of moves although relies too heavily on his speed move. Might have the nicest spin move in the draft.

PRIORITY Free Agents:
Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
Has good tools although merely an average arm. Has some "Romo-esque" escapability but nagging injuries have dropped his stock to UDFA.

Lanear Sampson, WR, Baylor
Worked out very well and Dallas is rumored to have an eye on him. Potential future as a slot WR with the upside of being a WR2.


POST-Draft Moves:

Cut Doug Free (June 1st): Saves a ton of cap room and Dallas replaces his spot on the roster with Chris Faulk.

D-Unit
03-27-2013, 01:10 PM
That's an iffy draft for me. If we take a DE in Round 1 that would totally make the Spencer franchising a head scratcher for me. IMO, a round 1 DE should start on Day 1. I understand the want to perhaps let Spencer go after this season and put in place a better fit, but I think we can do that with a later pick. I want more impact in year 1 from our first pick. Going with 2 DEs (Maponga) is almost overkill. We only have 6 picks. Only way I see DE being the pick is if some elite talent falls to us and the guys we want are gone.

I really like the Cyprien pick (hopefully he's there). Lot of mocks have him going in Round 1.

I like the Brian Winters pick too.

Faulk, I'm iffy on. LSU OL are often overrated.

leroyisgod
03-27-2013, 08:08 PM
I'd say that I'd walk away from draft weekend not exactly excited about this. I like Cyprien, but Okafor in the first. I mean why aren't we drafting a player in the first round that could potentially this year?

cmd34
03-27-2013, 09:57 PM
That draft makes me sad.

DrewyVuitton
03-27-2013, 11:18 PM
I'd make out with a desert eagle if that was our draft.

If Spencer is extended, which is the rumor, then DE makes no sense in the early rounds.

If he isn't, there is already a tailor made SDE on the roster with the ability to kick inside in the nickel in Crawford.

Aside from that, I question how Okafor would be drafted ahead of Cyprien. That's like the 7th rated DE coming off the board before arguably the top safety depending on who you talk to.

Trogdor
03-28-2013, 07:59 AM
My bad gentlemen I completely agree. Altered my original after I pasted it into the reply from my notepad. Originally had Cyprien then Armstead and decided to change it to Okafor / Cyp without really evaluating the rest of the draft. Wanted to work in Chris Faulk and didn't really think it through.

Made the tweaks in the original post but here's the updated:

1 (31): Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International
2 (34): Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine Bluff
3 (74): Brian Winter, OG, Kent State
3 (86): Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
4 (111): Josh Evans, FS, Florida
5 (144): Kerwynn Williams, RB Utah State
6 (175) Stansly Maponga, DE, Texas Christian

UDFAs:
Jeff Tuel, QB, Washington State
Lanear Sampson, WR, Baylor


Much happier with the way that turned out. Full rationale I am in the process of editing into the original will be up in 5 minutes or so. Thoughts?

LonghornsLegend
03-28-2013, 08:04 AM
I absolutely love me some Terron Armstread, and we have shown a considerable amount of interest. I'm going to be eyeing him with our 2nd round pick closely.

leroyisgod
03-28-2013, 08:21 AM
Drewy, what are your thoughts on Armstead? I'm curious about your take on him.

CowboysBeastMode
03-28-2013, 10:10 AM
dang trogdor stop stealing my thunder, first you take my boy armonty bryant b4 i could put him up on the small school thread, now the 49er trade and chris faulk c'mon stealing isnt right! JK

as for the 49er while i did bring it up a couple weeks and everybody said i was crazy and why wouldn't they sit their and take 13 players on team that was just in the super bowl, i think they would be aiming higher than the 18th pick because were at the mercy of what available already anyway, besides corner isn't a need have 4 guys who can start on nfl teams at corner, what they need is a interior pass rusher to take the presssure off/heir apparent to justin smith, when he got hurt is when their defense began to slide....so i'm thinking they trade up in that 8-12 range for sheldon richardson

the one logical trage i could see is a team trying to get ahead of the giants for de or cb like carradine, hunt or dj hayden (mayock put him ahead of desmond trufant in his ranking and had him as 1st rounder as long as the medical checks out)

CowboysBeastMode
03-28-2013, 10:36 AM
I listened Pattersons interview and I see why people think he's going to have trouble learning the an NFL offense.

He sounds like Dez.

If a team is willing to wait 3-4 years for him to blossom and are willing to push him, he's got the potential to be one of the best in the league.

Austin gives you immediate impact from day 1. Garrett is in "win now to save my job" mode and Jerry thinks this team is a championship contender.

I think Austin would be the guy for the Cowboys for those reasons. Plus he brings a different demensional than Dez.what interview are you talking about? the only interview ive heard him sound like dez (uhhhh, like, and you know....) was the interview about dooley right after he got fired during the season, other than that everytime he's been interviewed the guy always has a big smile on his face and doesn't seem to be at a loss for words. unless you're referring to accent, in which i wasn't aware that a black guy with country accent = dumb as rocks. like most young wr's you're not gonna give him the whole playback, you give certain packages. the plays and routes you give him cater to his strengths i.e. wr screens, slants, 9 routes so he doesnt have alot thinking to do and just let his elite athleticism take over. also, the cowboys have the receivers ahead him to be able to develop him and use him as a compliment his first year or so

i like the fit of patterson better because other than dez and miles all the rest of the receivers on the team are slot type guys (harris and coale) and austin plays in the slot alot too. as explosive as tavon austin is i think he is the feliz jones of recievers, he's a specialty guy imo more so than a full time receiver. and i haven't seen him make alot of contested or make a catch across the middle knowing he's gonna take shot in the big-12 where defenses concede 5 yards every play, the only time i did was back in '11 vs lsu and the ball went right off his hands before eric reid blasted him and ended being an interception. i see tavon austin as a more explosive dexter mccluster than the percy harvin comp he has been getting

D-Unit
03-28-2013, 12:59 PM
Terron Amstead over Alex Okafor.... MUCH MUCH Better.

Trogdor
03-28-2013, 01:05 PM
Terron Amstead over Alex Okafor.... MUCH MUCH Better.

:) Agreed. Not sure what I was thinking swapping those picks out. Bumped up Winter and Logan as well I think I was being optimistic with their initial placements. Still not sure Cyprien lasts until 31 but safeties and guards are two positions pre-draft that everyone has high and most of the time end up falling by draft day due to positional value. *shrugs*

Way too much talent in the safety pool this year. If we don't get a talented one it's going to be infuriating.

D-Unit
03-28-2013, 01:08 PM
:) Agreed. Not sure what I was thinking swapping those picks out. Bumped up Winter and Logan as well I think I was being optimistic with their initial placements. Still not sure Cyprien lasts until 31 but safeties and guards are two positions pre-draft that everyone has high and most of the time end up falling by draft day due to positional value. *shrugs*

Way too much talent in the safety pool this year. If we don't get a talented one it's going to be infuriating.
This is the deepest and best class of safeties that I can ever remember. We should not just get one but TWO from this draft if we know what's best for us.

DrewyVuitton
03-28-2013, 02:00 PM
Drewy, what are your thoughts on Armstead? I'm curious about your take on him.

I've read a lot of great stuff but haven't watched him myself yet. Haven't really focused on any tackles outside of Fluker, and I was looking at him as a potential RG.

DrewyVuitton
03-28-2013, 02:01 PM
This is the deepest and best class of safeties that I can ever remember. We should not just get one but TWO from this draft if we know what's best for us.

Yeah, I agree on depth. Can't remember a safety class this deep with potential starters.

DrewyVuitton
03-28-2013, 02:07 PM
what interview are you talking about? the only interview ive heard him sound like dez (uhhhh, like, and you know....) was the interview about dooley right after he got fired during the season, other than that everytime he's been interviewed the guy always has a big smile on his face and doesn't seem to be at a loss for words. unless you're referring to accent, in which i wasn't aware that a black guy with country accent = dumb as rocks. like most young wr's you're not gonna give him the whole playback, you give certain packages. the plays and routes you give him cater to his strengths i.e. wr screens, slants, 9 routes so he doesnt have alot thinking to do and just let his elite athleticism take over. also, the cowboys have the receivers ahead him to be able to develop him and use him as a compliment his first year or so

i like the fit of patterson better because other than dez and miles all the rest of the receivers on the team are slot type guys (harris and coale) and austin plays in the slot alot too. as explosive as tavon austin is i think he is the feliz jones of recievers, he's a specialty guy imo more so than a full time receiver. and i haven't seen him make alot of contested or make a catch across the middle knowing he's gonna take shot in the big-12 where defenses concede 5 yards every play, the only time i did was back in '11 vs lsu and the ball went right off his hands before eric reid blasted him and ended being an interception. i see tavon austin as a more explosive dexter mccluster than the percy harvin comp he has been getting

It's been said that scouts biggest concerns about him are with his ability to learn a playbook & his smarts. And yes, after listening to him and his "accent" if that's what you want to call it, id say he's pretty dumb.

I watched the game changers segment on NFLN the other day with Robert Woods, Da'Rick Rogers, Keenan Allen & Cordarelle Patterson and its pretty clear Patterson is the least well-spoken of the bunch.

Say I'm stereotyping or whatever you want to call it, but vocabulary is big indicator of intelligence. Dez is an idiot and it took him 3+ years to get to where he needed to be. I believe it's going to be similar for Patterson.

He's the most physically gifted WR in the draft and has potential to be a dominant, top-5 guy in this league, but I think the questions about his learning ability are there for a reason.

DrewyVuitton
03-28-2013, 04:43 PM
Drewy, what are your thoughts on Armstead? I'm curious about your take on him.

Just watched the 2 cut ups available. On the downside, it's against Jackson State and Alabama State so it's difficult to gauge the level of competition he's facing.

Although offensive tackle isn't a strength for me when evaluating players at this point, I think his athleticism is obvious. Very light feet and good on the move. Saw him get to the 2nd level and take out the LB consistently.

his technique seems off to me in pass pro. Instead of using a proper kick-step, Armstead seems to be able to get by on his athleticism. So while he has great feet, I don't think his footwork is where it's going to need to be. However, that's something that can be coached. His natural ability cannot.

It was fine at the level he was playing against but I think there is potential for balance issues if it isn't cleaned up at the next level.

At this point there are no balance issues and he doesn't get caught leaning or reaching, which is a positive.

He looks like an LT to me. All the tools and athleticism to protect the blindside. He was good run blocking in the games I watched but I'm not sure he has the base to be a top tier run blocker at the next level. Not the typical "mauler" like Fluker or Andre Smith or Columbo, etc.

However, the Cowboys had success with Free at RT, and he doesn't have a great base either. He's more of a LT that was able to play RT at a high level (once upon a time) so it's possible Armstead would do well on the right side. I don't think it's his best position but as long as you can play well enough, that doesn't matter.

D-Unit
03-28-2013, 07:16 PM
Just watched the 2 cut ups available. On the downside, it's against Jackson State and Alabama State so it's difficult to gauge the level of competition he's facing.

Although offensive tackle isn't a strength for me when evaluating players at this point, I think his athleticism is obvious. Very light feet and good on the move. Saw him get to the 2nd level and take out the LB consistently.

his technique seems off to me in pass pro. Instead of using a proper kick-step, Armstead seems to be able to get by on his athleticism. So while he has great feet, I don't think his footwork is where it's going to need to be. However, that's something that can be coached. His natural ability cannot.

It was fine at the level he was playing against but I think there is potential for balance issues if it isn't cleaned up at the next level.

At this point there are no balance issues and he doesn't get caught leaning or reaching, which is a positive.

He looks like an LT to me. All the tools and athleticism to protect the blindside. He was good run blocking in the games I watched but I'm not sure he has the base to be a top tier run blocker at the next level. Not the typical "mauler" like Fluker or Andre Smith or Columbo, etc.

However, the Cowboys had success with Free at RT, and he doesn't have a great base either. He's more of a LT that was able to play RT at a high level (once upon a time) so it's possible Armstead would do well on the right side. I don't think it's his best position but as long as you can play well enough, that doesn't matter.
GREAT breakdown there buddy! I do semi-question his fit for us at RT.

DrewyVuitton
03-28-2013, 08:02 PM
GREAT breakdown there buddy! I do semi-question his fit for us at RT.

Thanks.

I think for a team that runs a lot out of spread looks, like GB for example, he'd be fine as an RT. Or just teams running a ZBS in general that want a lot of movement with their tackles, he'd be good.

As I alluded to above, I think he COULD play RT for the Cowboys, but for a team that likes to run a power scheme, it's not ideal.

Although I question his pass pro, Fluker is really the type of guy that fits the mold of a Dallas OL.

I'm guessing a team like New Orleans who's in need of an LT but won't have a shot at the top 3 guys will be zeroing in on Armstead in rd 2.

leroyisgod
03-29-2013, 08:35 AM
Thanks.

I think for a team that runs a lot out of spread looks, like GB for example, he'd be fine as an RT. Or just teams running a ZBS in general that want a lot of movement with their tackles, he'd be good.

As I alluded to above, I think he COULD play RT for the Cowboys, but for a team that likes to run a power scheme, it's not ideal.

Although I question his pass pro, Fluker is really the type of guy that fits the mold of a Dallas OL.

I'm guessing a team like New Orleans who's in need of an LT but won't have a shot at the top 3 guys will be zeroing in on Armstead in rd 2.

I'm not real high on Armstead. He seems like a real project and not sure I'd take the chance on him in rounds 2-4, but someone will.

DrewyVuitton
03-29-2013, 01:57 PM
I'm not real high on Armstead. He seems like a real project and not sure I'd take the chance on him in rounds 2-4, but someone will.

Understandable. I think he's got a lot of potential because its infrequent to find someone as big as him with his movement skills, but he's pretty much gotten by on great athleticism vs lesser opponents and will need to be coached up.

At least that's my opinion.

CowboysBeastMode
04-03-2013, 01:17 PM
It's been said that scouts biggest concerns about him are with his ability to learn a playbook & his smarts. And yes, after listening to him and his "accent" if that's what you want to call it, id say he's pretty dumb.

I watched the game changers segment on NFLN the other day with Robert Woods, Da'Rick Rogers, Keenan Allen & Cordarelle Patterson and its pretty clear Patterson is the least well-spoken of the bunch.

Say I'm stereotyping or whatever you want to call it, but vocabulary is big indicator of intelligence. Dez is an idiot and it took him 3+ years to get to where he needed to be. I believe it's going to be similar for Patterson.

He's the most physically gifted WR in the draft and has potential to be a dominant, top-5 guy in this league, but I think the questions about his learning ability are there for a reason.sorry bout the late reply but easter weekend, ncaa tourney and work.

eloquence can't be the determinate of intelligence, all these guys come from different walks of life, judging a guy on how many different words he can use is unfair, but we can agree to disagree. (technically there are actually 9 forms of intelligence and he & dez would be at the top of the list on 1 form of intelligence)

but as for dez needing 3 years to learn the offense i think thats inaccurate, the routes dez ran this year are the same since his rookie year. they don't put him in the slot, motion him around alot or have him running more advanced routes. now he did have more sight adjustment reads this year, something that you would expected to see more in the second year, but there was the lockout that offseason, and i do think that hurt his progress as a receiver. he just executed his job better in the second half of the season, and that was the difference this year

but imo the thing held dez most back was his immaturity and lack of attention to detail

thule
04-03-2013, 03:36 PM
Just throwing in my 2 cents. If any team in the league could feel comfortable taking patterson you'd have to think the cowboys would be that team. They just successfully pulled off this with Dez. They have his former head coach on the staff. Obviously any concerns about learning the playbook would fall back to talking to his college coach. He is on the staff....needless to say I think if we select him we have a good idea of what needs to be done. How to bring them in. He's also coming into a position where he'd likely still be on the outside. Austin/Witten/Beasley/Dreads will likely man the inside position this year and into the future till they feel comfortable with Patterson on the inside. Letting patterson use his raw abilities on the outside as a 2nd or 3rd read shouldn't be too tough. We'd atleast see some production. And getting that talent at 18 and developing it is what makes good teams great.

D-Unit
04-03-2013, 03:41 PM
Just throwing in my 2 cents. If any team in the league could feel comfortable taking patterson you'd have to think the cowboys would be that team. They just successfully pulled off this with Dez. They have his former head coach on the staff. Obviously any concerns about learning the playbook would fall back to talking to his college coach. He is on the staff....needless to say I think if we select him we have a good idea of what needs to be done. How to bring them in. He's also coming into a position where he'd likely still be on the outside. Austin/Witten/Beasley/Dreads will likely man the inside position this year and into the future till they feel comfortable with Patterson on the inside. Letting patterson use his raw abilities on the outside as a 2nd or 3rd read shouldn't be too tough. We'd atleast see some production. And getting that talent at 18 and developing it is what makes good teams great.
I always love your 2 cents! Good stuff. Patterson is intriguing. I'll admit that.

leroyisgod
04-04-2013, 08:13 AM
Just throwing in my 2 cents. If any team in the league could feel comfortable taking patterson you'd have to think the cowboys would be that team. They just successfully pulled off this with Dez. They have his former head coach on the staff. Obviously any concerns about learning the playbook would fall back to talking to his college coach. He is on the staff....needless to say I think if we select him we have a good idea of what needs to be done. How to bring them in. He's also coming into a position where he'd likely still be on the outside. Austin/Witten/Beasley/Dreads will likely man the inside position this year and into the future till they feel comfortable with Patterson on the inside. Letting patterson use his raw abilities on the outside as a 2nd or 3rd read shouldn't be too tough. We'd atleast see some production. And getting that talent at 18 and developing it is what makes good teams great.

So if both Patterson and Austin are sitting there at 18, who would you take?

Trogdor
04-04-2013, 08:35 AM
So if both Patterson and Austin are sitting there at 18, who would you take?

That's a trick question. The correct answer is Jonathan Cooper. :D

leroyisgod
04-04-2013, 09:48 AM
That's a trick question. The correct answer is Jonathan Cooper. :D

Let me rephrase the question.

If Cooper & Warmack are off the board and we decide to go WR, do you take Patterson or Austin if both are there?

Rev Bolyard
04-05-2013, 05:13 PM
Let me rephrase the question.

If Cooper & Warmack are off the board and we decide to go WR, do you take Patterson or Austin if both are there?

To rephrase Trogdor's answer, I'm not sure that Patterson or Austin are worthy of that pick.

Players I would prefer over Patterson or Austin (in no particular order)

Joekel
Fisher
Lane Johnson
Star Lotuleilei
Sharrif Floyd
Jarvis Jones
Sheldon Richardson
Kenny Vacarro
Jonathan Cooper
Chance Warmack
DaMontre Moore
Ezekiel Ansah
Bjoern Werner

That's 13 players, now add in the fact that Geno Smith, Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner and maybe Matt Barkley and Mingo go before Dallas picks, and you have 18 picks. Someone who better matches Dallas's needs will be there.

Rev Bolyard
04-05-2013, 05:16 PM
DallasCowboys.com mock draft (http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/article-DallasCowboysReport/DCCom-Writers-Reveal-First-Cowboys-Mock-Picks-1-6-/6ec809d3-5ef7-4d14-a230-3ff18505631d)

Read over this, and I have to be honest with you... my BEST case scenario is David Helman's though I must admit, he's really getting value with every single one of those picks...

I could see almost every one of those picks going earlier than Dallas, but if those all slid - would be IDEAL.

CowboysBeastMode
04-05-2013, 05:43 PM
To rephrase Trogdor's answer, I'm not sure that Patterson or Austin are worthy of that pick.

Players I would prefer over Patterson or Austin (in no particular order)

Joekel
Fisher
Lane Johnson
Star Lotuleilei
Sharrif Floyd
Jarvis Jones
Sheldon Richardson
Kenny Vacarro
Jonathan Cooper
Chance Warmack
DaMontre Moore
Ezekiel Ansah
Bjoern Werner

That's 13 players, now add in the fact that Geno Smith, Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner and maybe Matt Barkley and Mingo go before Dallas picks, and you have 18 picks. Someone who better matches Dallas's needs will be there.
:confuse: ??? wait i don't get it are you saying one of those 13 guys will be on the board or they'll all be gone?

i could easily see everyone except werner or moore gone, and i doubt moore goes in the 1st or maybe even second.

good chance patterson and/or austin would be the best player left and i don't see alec ogletree as a target either

Iamcanadian
04-05-2013, 06:00 PM
Let me rephrase the question.

If Cooper & Warmack are off the board and we decide to go WR, do you take Patterson or Austin if both are there?

There is zero chance we take a WR, if the OL isn't taken then a DT or Safety are the likely picks.

Rev Bolyard
04-05-2013, 06:02 PM
:confuse: ??? wait i don't get it are you saying one of those 13 guys will be on the board or they'll all be gone?

i could easily see everyone except werner or moore gone, and i doubt moore goes in the 1st or maybe even second.

good chance patterson and/or austin would be the best player left and i don't see alec ogletree as a target either

I'm saying it would probably take a perfect storm for one of the 13 players I listed above to NOT be there for Dallas who I personally have ranked higher or equal to Austin or Patterson. Keep in mind I'm a diehard WVU fan, and have seen all of Austin's games over the past 4 years. I don't know that he's such an undeniable talent that it would make me take him vs. say a Sylvester Williams or even a DJ Fluker if push came to shove.

I understand taking the best player available... I do. But this draft is about 5-7 truly ELITE talents, and then probably 20 or so REALLY good players - so you couldn't go wrong addressing a NEED. Patterson or even Austin are certainly no Dez Bryant. This isn't a situation where they're a top 10 talent that COULD fall - they're simply top 20 or so talent's who will probably be there. If all things are equal, I'm drafting a position of need rather than doing that. ESPECIALLY since I question how much better a Tavon Austin or a Patterson is than Keenan Allen or Justin Hunter or DeAndre Hopkins who I can have in the 2nd. Or a Terrence Williams or a Stedman Bailey who I can have in the 3rd. Receiver is a deep position this year with a rather unimpressive top. I just don't see a scenario where Dallas seriously considers a wide out in the first unless they were to trade down.

Rev Bolyard
04-05-2013, 06:04 PM
There is zero chance we take a WR, if the OL isn't taken then a DT or Safety are the likely picks.

Absolutely. If the top guards and tackles and safties AND defensive tackles are off the board, the greatest value probably lies in either one of the defensive ends who slipped, or just trading back and letting a team lacking weapons pick Patterson or Austin.

D-Unit
04-05-2013, 06:26 PM
Let's just give the guy his answer....

Between the 2, I would take Tavon over Patterson.

But I would take DeAndre Hopkins over both.

Trogdor
04-10-2013, 08:11 AM
Let's just give the guy his answer....

Between the 2, I would take Tavon over Patterson.

But I would take DeAndre Hopkins over both.

The whole conversation makes me ill but I'll bite.

Personally I'd say Patterson > Tavon > Hopkins

As far as looking at the 'Boys I'd say Patterson > Hopkins >>>> Tavon. Austin doesn't fit the profile that we target in the slightest. We like size/speed guys while Tavon is extremely undersized for our mold. Dallas loves kicking Miles down into the slot so a receiver we take needs to be able to play outside and I don't buy that Tavon can play anywhere other than the slot.

That being said if we are drafting a WR out of the three I hope it means we traded out of the first round and are selecting them with a Day 2 pick.

thule
04-10-2013, 09:01 AM
So if both Patterson and Austin are sitting there at 18, who would you take?

I think Patterson has to be the pick there. Austin and Witten can already handle the middle of the field. Patterson can be groomed for a year behind Austin and he does have the size/speed ratio that we go after. We've always wanted size on the outside...Tavon is a hell of a player but not sure if he fits what we look for in a outside WR. And although #3 WR is a need....in the draft I think we are looking at 2014 needs which should be starting potential behind Austin who could be a cap casualty next year.

thule
04-10-2013, 09:02 AM
There is zero chance we take a WR, if the OL isn't taken then a DT or Safety are the likely picks.

0 chance...people who speak in absolutes......

Dallas could very well go BPA in the draft...and there is a good chance that WR is the top player on our board. Not sure why you'd close the door when Austin's contract is a big issue moving forward.

Witten4HOF
04-13-2013, 04:02 PM
Just for anyone who may be interested I am representing the Cowboys in the latest forum mock and this has been the progress thus far.

-I was awarded Eric Winston in free agency, signed for 3yrs $14.5mil ($3.5m, $5m,$6m) with $5 Mil guaranteed, the first year is fully guarenteed and $1.5 mil of year #2. Essentially, the third year is voidable since there is no money that is owed if we were to cut him prior to the season. The is also a built in $1mil escalator clause for any year he make the probowl.

-Doug Free immediately was designated a June 1st cut, opening up apx $7m in cap space later in the offseason.

-Important draft notes:

6) Cleveland Browns select Chance Warmack
11) NY Jets select Kenny Vacarro
12) Miami Dolphins select Cornellius Carradine
14) Carolina Panthers select Cardarelle Patterson
16) St Louis Rams select Tavon Austin
17) San Fran trades up last minute to select Jon Cooper

At #18 I chose to draft our 3 tech of the future in Sheldon Richardson.

32) Baltimore Ravens select Johnathan Cyprien
33) St Louis Rams select Matt Elam
37) Cincinatti Bengals select Kyle Long

With Safety and zone friendly Guards dwindling I was forced with the dilema to wither trade up or sit tight possibly missing out on the interior help we need. Looking at the players on the board I chose to sacrifice our #4 to move up to #38.

At #38 I chose to swipe Justin Pugh and project him inside at guard next to Winston. Pugh has very good lateral movement and would be an asset in pass protection on the inside against 3-techs.

I'm pretty much done for the day and we will see how the next round and a half pan out but S,RB,DE,TE,C are all on my radar for the rest of the draft. Not quiet sure if I am going to try and trade down in the 3rd and recoop an additional draft pick or sit tight yet. I'll update this every couple of rounds.

thule
04-13-2013, 10:43 PM
I like it Witten. Moving up for Pugh might be hard to swallow for some...but he is a hell of a football player. And gotta pick the safety you like most here in the 3rd and you wrapped up all of our top needs good job.

Trogdor
04-14-2013, 08:38 AM
I like it Witten. Moving up for Pugh might be hard to swallow for some...but he is a hell of a football player. And gotta pick the safety you like most here in the 3rd and you wrapped up all of our top needs good job.

Agreed on every point. Land someone a playmaking safety in the 3rd like Phillip Thomas and that would be a really nice mock given the board.

CowboysBeastMode
04-14-2013, 05:42 PM
Let me rephrase the question.

If Cooper & Warmack are off the board and we decide to go WR, do you take Patterson or Austin if both are there?i would patterson over austin all day, i don't think austin gets on the field more than patterson would, since he really a slot guy so he's mostly be in the game in 3 wr sets.

but i'd like trade down and take hunter over patterson and austin

Let's just give the guy his answer....

Between the 2, I would take Tavon over Patterson.

But I would take DeAndre Hopkins over both.
i would take dobson over hopkins

Witten4HOF
04-14-2013, 08:05 PM
The third round of the forum mock worked at a pretty good pace today. My strategy as the board started to round itself out was to try and trade down to recoup the 4th round pick that was lost in the trade for Pugh. As I fielded trades I kept my eyes on the board and realized that there was plenty of talen at S and RB that someone would slide down even if I traded away the pick. Finally I picked a trade partner of my liking and was ready to trade #80 for #102, #120, and #213 which had a value difference of 37 points. Feeling that I everything was good to go, I submitted to trade to the co-commish and jumped in the shower only to find out that he denied the trade. At this time there was less then 4 minutes on the clock so I submitted the top player on my board:

#80 Brian Schwenke C, Cal- IMO was the best center in the draft if you were looking to run a zone system. He has very good movement skills and is very savy blocking guys that are physically superior. In this senario the team would be looking to completely revamp the line to get Romo the best chance at success.

In actuality I would have prefered the trade and picked up JJ Wilcox or Phillip Thomas if they slid into the 4th round and then had the ammo to pick up a back but oh well life happens.

Trogdor
04-14-2013, 08:59 PM
Excellent pick. Trade down would of been great but you ended up getting good value for the pick. Should be some nice targets for both S and RB in the 5th and 6th.

primetime217
04-16-2013, 04:09 PM
Haven't done a mock in a couple weeks so I decided to throw one together quick.

1. Sheldon Richardson- DT Missouri
2. Justin Pugh- OL Syracuse
3. DJ Swearinger- S South Carolina
4. Jonathan Franklin- RB UCLA
5. David Bass- DE Missouri western
6. Michael Williams- TE Alabama

Witten4HOF
04-17-2013, 11:20 AM
With no pick in the 4th round and not a lot of ammo to maneuver I had a long wait before getting back on the clock in the fith round. Fortunately, I found what I feel was one of the steals of the draft in Le'Veon Bell still available. Just to magnify the value I had considered Bell in the third before settling on Schwenke. Needsless to say the need/value/actual interest made that pick a no brained.

In the sixth round I really battled with myself between two guys available, Earl Wolff S, of NC State and Stansly Moponga DE of TCU. I had a goal to address the safety position without reaching but had yet to pull the trigger because value never seemed to match up. I'm a big fan of Wolff as a smart hard working safety that had starting potential because of his athleticism. With good coaching his insitincts/reaction time should catch up to his physical talent. On the flip side Moponga brings a very valuable skill as a pass rush specialist as a reserve, something that is currently lacking on a defense built around rushing the passer.
I ended up settling on Wolff because I know at the very least he will lock down a special teams role and I'm not sure the same can be said for Stansly.

I'm still considering trading Vickers to get back in the draft to grab Moponga but haven't decided because of how valuable of a influence Vickers is on the young players on the team.

CowboysBeastMode
04-17-2013, 05:32 PM
With no pick in the 4th round and not a lot of ammo to maneuver I had a long wait before getting back on the clock in the fith round. Fortunately, I found what I feel was one of the steals of the draft in Le'Veon Bell still available. Just to magnify the value I had considered Bell in the third before settling on Schwenke. Needsless to say the need/value/actual interest made that pick a no brained.

In the sixth round I really battled with myself between two guys available, Earl Wolff S, of NC State and Stansly Moponga DE of TCU. I had a goal to address the safety position without reaching but had yet to pull the trigger because value never seemed to match up. I'm a big fan of Wolff as a smart hard working safety that had starting potential because of his athleticism. With good coaching his insitincts/reaction time should catch up to his physical talent. On the flip side Moponga brings a very valuable skill as a pass rush specialist as a reserve, something that is currently lacking on a defense built around rushing the passer.
I ended up settling on Wolff because I know at the very least he will lock down a special teams role and I'm not sure the same can be said for Stansly.

I'm still considering trading Vickers to get back in the draft to grab Moponga but haven't decided because of how valuable of a influence Vickers is on the young players on the team.now that ur draft is over i thought you did a great job of picking players as opposed to the stupidity most of the guys in the mock especially in the top 10. it seemed like guys were trading for just the sake of trading.

can't blame you for not trading up for cooper, sf trading up to get him right before you made no sense at all. i probably wouldn't have traded up to take pugh i wouldv'e probably stayed put and taken dallas thomas but pugh is good player and schwenke in the 3rd is great value as well

great job to d-unit as well, the first round commentary was great, whoever was the jets (probably a pats fan or maybe the jets real gm back from the richie kotite era) just doesn't understand what the drafts about :point:

leroyisgod
04-17-2013, 07:45 PM
Haven't done a mock in a couple weeks so I decided to throw one together quick.

1. Sheldon Richardson- DT Missouri
2. Justin Pugh- OL Syracuse
3. DJ Swearinger- S South Carolina
4. Jonathan Franklin- RB UCLA
5. David Bass- DE Missouri western
6. Michael Williams- TE Alabama

I'd be very pleased with this one.

CowboysBeastMode
04-17-2013, 08:35 PM
Haven't done a mock in a couple weeks so I decided to throw one together quick.

1. Sheldon Richardson- DT Missouri
2. Justin Pugh- OL Syracuse
3. DJ Swearinger- S South Carolina
4. Jonathan Franklin- RB UCLA
5. David Bass- DE Missouri western
6. Michael Williams- TE Alabamai like it, i'd sub TE nick kasa if he's there in the fifth for bass, and draft whatever else is in the sixth

DrewyVuitton
04-17-2013, 09:26 PM
Haven't done a mock in a couple weeks so I decided to throw one together quick.

1. Sheldon Richardson- DT Missouri
2. Justin Pugh- OL Syracuse
3. DJ Swearinger- S South Carolina
4. Jonathan Franklin- RB UCLA
5. David Bass- DE Missouri western
6. Michael Williams- TE Alabama

This would be awesome, although with their stock on the rise I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Swearinger go in the 2nd & Franklin in the 3rd.

CowboysBeastMode
04-17-2013, 10:32 PM
This would be awesome, although with their stock on the rise I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Swearinger go in the 2nd & Franklin in the 3rd.i think swearinger won't make it past the pats in the second round.

Witten4HOF
04-22-2013, 07:09 AM
QB- Romo,Tony - Orton,Kyle

RB- Murray, DeMarco - Bell Le'Veon - Dunbar Lance
FB- Vickers, Lawrence
TE- Witten, Jason - Hannah, James - Jefferson, DC

LWR- Bryant, Dez - Harris, Dwayne
RWR- Austin, Miles -
SWR- Beasley, Cole - Coale, Danny

LT- Smith, Tyron - Parnell, Jermey
LG- Livings, Nate - Leary, Ron
C- Schwenke, Brian - Costa, Phil - Kowalski, Kevin
RG- Pugh, Justin - Benadeau, Mackenzy
RT- Winston, Eric -

LE- Spencer, Anthony - Crawford, Tyrone - Bass, Ben
RE- Ware, DeMarcus - Wilber, Kyle -Moponga, Stansly
DT- Richardson, Sheldon - Hatcher, Jason - Callaway, Rob
NT- Ratliff, Jay - Lissemore, Sean

SLB- Durant, Justin - Albright, Alex
MLB- Lee, Sean - Lemon, Orie
WLB- Carter, Bruce - Sims, Ernie

LCB- Carr, Brandon - Moore, Sterling
RCB- Claiborne, Mo - Scandrick, Orlando
FS- Johnson, Matt - Allen, Will - Wolff, Earl
SS- Church, Barry - McCray, Danny

K Bailey, Dan
P Jones, Chris
LS Ladouceur, LP


I was able to get great value in UDFA with both Jefferson and Moponga. I'm pretty sure both would have a great shot at making the 53. Also, went deep on the D-line with an emphasis on rushing the passer and keeping guys fresh.

pocketaces
04-22-2013, 03:46 PM
QB- Romo,Tony - Orton,Kyle

RB- Murray, DeMarco - Bell Le'Veon - Dunbar Lance
FB- Vickers, Lawrence
TE- Witten, Jason - Hannah, James - Jefferson, DC

LWR- Bryant, Dez - Harris, Dwayne
RWR- Austin, Miles -
SWR- Beasley, Cole - Coale, Danny

LT- Smith, Tyron - Parnell, Jermey
LG- Livings, Nate - Leary, Ron
C- Schwenke, Brian - Costa, Phil - Kowalski, Kevin
RG- Pugh, Justin - Benadeau, Mackenzy
RT- Winston, Eric -

LE- Spencer, Anthony - Crawford, Tyrone - Bass, Ben
RE- Ware, DeMarcus - Wilber, Kyle -Moponga, Stansly
DT- Richardson, Sheldon - Hatcher, Jason - Callaway, Rob
NT- Ratliff, Jay - Lissemore, Sean

SLB- Durant, Justin - Albright, Alex
MLB- Lee, Sean - Lemon, Orie
WLB- Carter, Bruce - Sims, Ernie

LCB- Carr, Brandon - Moore, Sterling
RCB- Claiborne, Mo - Scandrick, Orlando
FS- Johnson, Matt - Allen, Will - Wolff, Earl
SS- Church, Barry - McCray, Danny

K Bailey, Dan
P Jones, Chris
LS Ladouceur, LP


I was able to get great value in UDFA with both Jefferson and Moponga. I'm pretty sure both would have a great shot at making the 53. Also, went deep on the D-line with an emphasis on rushing the passer and keeping guys fresh.

Great job! FYI, Orie Lemon is history

D-Unit
04-25-2013, 03:33 PM
My FINAL 2013 2 round mock (based off prediction)


Round 1
1. Kansas City Chiefs :: Luke Joeckel OT /Texas A&M
2. Jacksonville Jaguars :: Sharrif Floyd DT/Florida
3. Oakland Raiders :: Star Lotulelei DT/Utah
4. Philadelphia Eagles :: Lane Johnson OT/Oklahoma
5. Detroit Lions :: Dee Milliner CB/Alabama
6. Cleveland Browns :: Dion Jordan OLB/Oregon
7. Arizona Cardinals :: Eric Fisher OT /Central Michigan
8. Buffalo Bills :: Ryan Nassib QB/Syracuse
9. New York Jets :: Tavon Austin WR/West Virginia
10. Tennessee Titans :: Ezekiel Ansah DE/Brigham Young
11. San Diego Chargers :: Barkevious Mingo DE/Louisiana State
12. Miami Dolphins :: Xavier Rhodes CB/Florida State
13. New York Jets (f/Tampa Bay Buccaneers) :: Jarvis Jones OLB/Georgia
14. Carolina Panthers :: Cordarrelle Patterson WR/Tennessee
15. New Orleans Saints :: Damontre Moore DE/Texas A&M
16. St. Louis Rams :: Chance Warmack OG/Alabama
17. Pittsburgh Steelers :: DeAndre Hopkins WR/Clemson
18. Dallas Cowboys :: Jonathan Cooper OG/North Carolina
19. New York Giants :: Tank Carradine DE/Florida State
20. Chicago Bears :: DJ Fluker OT/Alabama
21. Cincinnati Bengals :: Johnathan Cyprien S/Florida International
22. St. Louis Rams (f/ Washington Redskins) :: Kenny Vaccaro S/Texas
23. Minnesota Vikings :: Sheldon Richardson DT/Missouri
24. Indianapolis Colts :: Bjoern Werner DE/Florida State
25. Minnesota Vikings (f/ Seattle Seahawks) :: Manti Te’o ILB/Notre Dame
26. Green Bay Packers :: Justin Pugh OT/Syracuse
27. Houston Texans :: Keenan Allen WR/California
28. Denver Broncos :: Sylvester Williams DT/North Carolina
29. New England Patriots :: DJ Hayden CB/Houston
30. Atlanta Falcons :: Tyler Eifert TE/Notre Dame
31. San Francisco 49ers :: Eric Reid S/Louisiana State
32. Baltimore Ravens :: Arthur Brown LB/Kansas State

Round 2

33. Jacksonville Jaguars :: Geno Smith QB/West Virginia
34. San Francisco 49ers (f/ Kansas City Chiefs) :: Jesse Williams NT/Alabama
35. Philadelphia Eagles :: EJ Manuel QB/Florida State
36. Detroit Lions :: Terron Armstead OT/Arkansas Pine-Bluff
37. Cincinnati Bengals (f/ Oakland Raiders) :: Menelik Watson OT/Florida State
38. Arizona Cardinals :: Eddie Lacy RB/Alabama
39. New York Jets :: Zach Ertz TE/Stanford
40. Tennessee Titans :: Kyle Long OG/Oregon
41. Buffalo Bills :: Matt Elam S/Florida
42. Miami Dolphins :: Justin Hunter WR/Tennessee
43. Tampa Bay Buccaneers :: Alec Ogltree LB/Georgia
44. Carolina Panthers :: Johnathan Hankins DT/Ohio State
45. San Diego Chargers :: Datone Jones DE/UCLA
46. St. Louis Rams :: Robert Woods WR/USC
47. Dallas Cowboys :: Kawann Short DT/Purdue
48. Pittsburgh Steelers :: Blidi Wreh-Wilson CB/Connecticut
49. New York Giants :: Travis Frederick OG/Wisconsin
50. Chicago Bears :: Kevin Minter ILB/Louisiana State
51. Washington Redskins :: DJ Swearinger S/South Carolina
52. Minnesota Vikings :: Jamar Taylor CB/Boise State
53. Cincinnati Bengals :: Giovanni Bernard RB/North Carolina
54. Miami Dolphins (f/ Indianapolis Colts) :: Desmond Trufant CB/Washington
55. Green Bay Packers :: Margus Hunt DE/Southern Methodist
56. Seattle Seahawks :: Brandon Williams DT/Missouri Southern State
57. Houston Texans :: Dallas Thomas OL/Tennessee
58. Denver Broncos :: Sam Montgomery DE/LSU
59. New England Patriots :: Markus Wheaton WR/Oregon State
60. Atlanta Falcons :: David Amerson DB/NC State
61. San Francisco 49ers :: Barrett Jones C/Alabama
62. Baltimore Ravens :: Shamarko Thomas S/Syracuse

pocketaces
04-25-2013, 03:58 PM
Hope your right. A+ for the Boys

UTPATS
04-25-2013, 03:59 PM
Hope your right. A+ for the Boys

Agreed! Do it!