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Brown Leader
01-25-2013, 01:41 PM
sup. updated 2/8


RD.1


1. Kansas City Chiefs – Star Lotulelei /DT-DE/ Utah:
I’m starting to buy in to the idea that Reid won’t take a QB 1st overall. Star has incredible mobility and quickness for a NT and would be a great fit at the 5tech in their scheme. NFL comp. Haloti Ngata

2. Jacksonville Jaguars - Bjoern Werner* /DE-OLB/ Florida State:
I haven't been really high on Werner but he's showed a knack for playing big in big games. Have him now as the first DE taken because he gets off the ball better then anyone in this class. If Gus attempts the same scheme he had in Seattle, Werner could fill the same role as Clemons, who was the designated pass rusher and even stood up from time to time. NFL comp. Chris Long

3. Oakland Raiders – DaMontre Moore* /DE-OLB/ Texas A&M:
Moore was incredibly productive in his first season with his hand down while playing in a tougher conference. His versatility will also be attractive to teams. But the key word is productivity-the Raiders desperately need something at this position. NFL comp. Willie McGinest

4. Philadelphia Eagles – Luke Joeckel* /OT/ Texas A&M:
Yes, it’s hoped Peters stays upright and makes it back but he’ll be entering the downside of his career coming off a serious injury. Joeckel is possibly the surest offense side player available and if the new Eagles regime wants to play it safe, he’s their guy-with Chip Kelly on board, they better play it safe with their 1st pick. NFL comp. Joe Thomas

5. Detroit Lions - Ezekiel Ansah /DE/ BYU:
Normally the senior practices are much more important then the game but Ansah dominated so thoroughly, and with his relative inexperience, his performance has got to stick in the minds of decision makers even if a good portion came at the expense of Wagner. Schwartz also mentioned he was actually pleased with Ansah's progress during the week. Lions could look at Milliner but it's a fairley deep class of CBs-why not roll the dice on a potential pro bowl DE? NFL Comp. Justin Tuck
*previous Barkevious Mingo

6. Cleveland Browns – Dion Jordan /OLB-DE/ Oregon:
I think Lombardi and Banner would pass on Jarvis Jones here. Jordan is the guy I could see Lombardi coveting. He’s got the frame of a DE and the mobility of a DB but he’s actually more raw then Mingo. Recent news he’s putting off labrum surgery should mean he can shine at the combine and workouts. Kind of remarkable that he put up such a solid season while playing half of it with that torn labrum. Had he stayed healthy, he'd have even more buzz. NFL comp. Mathias Kiwanuka (with a better first step)

7. TRADE San Diego Chargers (ARI)- Eric Fisher /OT/Central Michigan:
Fisher was so dominant in Mobile, he might have actually lowered Joeckel’s stock by looking like a comparable option at LT. I think Arizona forces a trade up for any team also desperate for a LT. Franchise QB should be #1 on the Cards draft needs. SD gives up a 14' 2nd round pick here. NFL comp Joe Staley

8. Buffalo Bills - Jarvis Jones* /OLB/ Georgia:
Jones' medical condition is downright scary. How far he drops because of it is the question. He's been playing at a high level with the condition for awhile but even if there isn't a catastrophe in his future, his longevity is seriously in question. It's not as much a question if Jones can play with the condition, it's should he be playing. NFL comp. Chad Brown
*previous Matt Barkley

9. TRADE Tampa Bay Buccaneers (NYJ)- Dee Milliner*/CB/ Alabama:
With so few top CBs in this class, Milliner would probably be wise to declare. I def don't see a top ten guy but, who knows, Gilmore went there last year. Right now I think he's just top 20. NFL Comp. Terrell Thomas

10. Tennessee Titans - Kenny Vaccaro /S/ Texas:
The tatted one is regarded by many as the top S in the draft. McShay recently gushed he's talented enough to play some CB. NFL Comp. Micheal Huff
*previous Sheldon Richardson

11. TRADE Arizona Cardinals (SD) – Geno Smith /QB/ West Virginia
While Arizona desperately needs a LT, first priority should be a franchise QB. Took another look vs TCU and came away impressed with Smith's toughness, improvisation and arm talent against a tough D. He chooses not to run a lot but it's an underrated part of his game. Given his noted work ethic and his overall skill set, it's clear he's the top QB. NFL comp. Mark Brunnell
*previous Tyler Wilson

12. Miami Dolphins – Tyler Eifert /TE/ Notre Dame:
Eifert is underrated and I think his stock will soar as the draft gets closer. NFL Comp. Jason Witten

13. TRADE New York Jets (TB) - Chance Warmack /OG/ Alabama:
Ryan has one more season to show some kind of legitimate turn around or he’s out. Warmack is maby the most pro ready prospect in the draft and helps Ryan immediately get back to his brand of football. NFL Comp. Jahri Evans

14. Carolina Panthers – Cordarrelle Patterson*/WR/Tennessee:
Incredible open field runner for a taller guy. Extremely raw but his upside is off the charts. Smitty could be a strong mentor to help him perfect his craft. NFL Comp. Josh Cribbs -but with elite lateral quickness.

15. TRADE Chicago Bears (NO) - Lane Johnson /OT/ Oklahoma:
One of the biggest risers out of senior week and he hasn’t even showed off at Indianapolis yet. Bears should be serious about the offensive line this draft and make sure they get an upgrade. They give up a 14' 3rd and this year's 4th to grab Johnson here.

16. St. Louis Rams - Sheldon Richardson* /DT-DE/ Missouri:
A dominating interior pass rusher. Richardson is ridiculously athletic for a bigger guy. NFL Comp. Darnell Dockett
*previous John Cooper

17. Pittsburgh Steelers - Keenan Allen* /WR/ California:
Allen’s worth a top ten pick. His stock might take a hit if he recovers slowly from his late season knee injury and Patterson/Austin blaze. NFL Comp. Javon Walker

18. Dallas Cowboys - Jonathan Cooper /OG/ North Carolina:
Smart, athletic guard some view as closely comparable to Warmack. NFL Comp. Davin Joseph
*previous Jesse Williams

19. New York Giants - Barkevious Mingo*/OLB-DE/ LSU:
Freak athlete in need of a lot of polish but it worked just fine here with JPP. Biggest issue I've seen with Mingo is his pad level. He gets too upright on his pass rush and it makes him unbalanced. NFL comp. Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila

20. TRADE New Orleans Saints (CHI) - Alec Ogletree* /LB/ Georgia:
I didn't really recognize how much of a freak athlete Ogletree is until I watched the all star skills contest and saw him demonstrate quicker feet then Robert Woods. Fills the stat sheet on a talented Georgia D but is still pretty raw and has character flags. NFL Comp. Boss Bailey

21. Cincinnati Bengals - Matt Elam*/S /Florida:
As little as he is, if he declares he could rise in this class. Harper has been a liability against the pass for too long. NFL Comp. Dante Whitner
*previous Alec Ogletree, Arthur Brown

22. TRADE New England Patriots (STL)- Tavon Austin /WR-RB/ West Virginia:
Painfully clear watching the Patriots playoff loss that Welker is finished and they lack offensive firepower overall. I think BB starts a new trend and again trades up for a guy that can help right away , rather then move back and stock picks. NFL comp. (taller) Darren Sproles

23. TRADE Buffalo Bills (MINN) - Matt Barkley /QB/ USC:
Marrone runs an innovative version of the Saints offense. Barkley's had a down year, but at his best, imo, he looks an awful lot like Brees. I think he's a great fit for the offense but not the greatest fit for the environment. Good thing the Bills have teo pro bowl caliber RBs. NFL comp. Chad Pennington

24 Indianapolis Colts - D.J. Fluker* /OT/Alabama:
Good coaching and D.J.'s a pro bowler.
*previous Jarvis Jones

25. Seattle Seahawks – Shariff Floyd* /DT-DE/ Florida:
Big motored, talented DT/DE who’s stock appears to be rising. NFL Comp. Mike Neal
*previous Alec Ogletree

26. Green Bay Packers - Datone Jones /DE-DT/ UCLA:
Already had Jones as a 2nd rounder before Mobile where he crushed it. I’ve read he’s not regarded as a first round pick but a 34 or 43 team in need of more pass rush should find it hard to pass him up. NFL Comp. Cameron Jordan

27. Houston Texans – Jesse Williams /NT/ Alabama:
Not yet getting enough recognition. Williams should become a beast of an interior lineman in the NFL-able to play in any scheme. NFL Comp. Antonio Garay
*previous Kenny Vaccaro

28. Denver Broncos - Eddie Lacy*/RB/ Alabama:
Superbly talented but also playing behind a phenomenal line. Still his feet, agility and speed at 225+ is special. NFL Comp. Steven Jackson

29. TRADE St. Louis Rams (NE) - Larry Warford /OG/ Kentucky:
Looked like a first round guy in Mobile.

30. Atlanta Falcons - Corey Lemonier* /DE-OLB/ Auburn:
Lemonier has been one of the most consistent rushers in the country for awhile, and only fell off the second half of his senior season. NFL Comp. Shawn Merriman

31. San Francisco 49ers - Eric Reid* /S/LSU:
Reid’s stock is up and down but I think he’s looked good enough to go in the top 32. NFL comp. William Moore

32. Baltimore Ravens - Arthur Brown /LB/ Kansas St:
Checked back on ND games for Te'o after that horrid bowl game and compared him with Brown and Minter (vs Miami, Oregon, & A&M). Got to say now that Brown is possibly the best ILB prospect of the three. Undersized but doesn't play like it. He can thump inside while also looking great in space. If he times and tests strong, look for him to rise. Comp. Jon Beason




RD.2


1. Jacksonville Jaguars – Kawaan Short /DE-DT/ Purdue:
When his motors on, he's a top 20 guy. He could drop because of inconsistency but he'll probably generate buzz though senior week. NFL Comp. Red Bryant
*previous Matt Barkley

2. Kansas City Chiefs – Tyler Wilson /QB/ Arkansas:
Who the best QB in this class is a huge debate. If Reid resists a QB at #1 he might find Wilson available at the top of the 2nd. Cha-ching because there's not a world of difference between him and Geno. NFL comp. Matt Hasselbeck

3. Philadelphia Eagles – Xavier Rhodes /FS-CB/ Florida State:
Rhodes has the size and tackling ability to play safety if needed. I think Kelly will resist making a play for any of the QBs in this class. He'll sign Vick and roll with him and Foles and see how they do in his offense. NFL comp. Gary Baxter
*previous Matt Barkley

4. Detroit Lions - Johnthan Banks /CB/ Mississippi St:
Stock now depends on how well he looks in Indianapolis. NFL Comp. D-R-C

5. Cincinnati Bengals (OAK) – Jordan Poyer /CB/ Oregon State:
Poyer was one of the best CBs at senior week practices. NFL Comp. Cary Williams
*previous Xavier Rhodes

6. Arizona Cardinals – Travis Frederick* /OC-OG/ Wisconsin:
Huge run blocker should upgrade the interior immediately.

7. Cleveland Browns (supp) - Josh Gordon /WR/ Baylor:
Supplemental pick Flash has been the Browns best WR this season. That's good and bad. NFL comp. Vincent Jackson

8. New York Jets - Ryan Nassib /QB/ Syracuse:
Nassib had a disappointing senior week but he's got plenty of time to make up ground. He could win the starting job as a rookie. NFL Comp. Andy Dalton
*previous Tyler Bray

9. Tennessee Titans – Barrett Jones /OC-OG/ Alabama:
Will become more valuable because of his versatility.
*previous David Quessenberry

10. TRADE Minnesota Vikings (BUF)– Terrance Williams /WR/ Baylor:
Wiiliams has size and speed but it's his quick feet that I think will make him a great pro. Sort of a first round sleeper that should generate momentum after senior week practices. NFL comp. Jimmy Smith

11. Miami Dolphins – Desmond Trufant /CB/Washington:
Needs to back it up with a solid combine but Trufant came out of senior week being called a first round pick. NFL Comp. Tracy Porter
*previous Jordan Poyer

12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Jonathan Cyprien /S/ FIU:
A sleeper that really opened up eyes at Mobile. He looked like a CB in drills at 6'1 209.
*previous D.J. Fluker, Desmond Trufant

13. Carolina Panthers – Quinton Patton /WR/ Louisiana Tech:
Not fast but great feet and stop and start ability with solid size and catches everything. Dominated at Mobile. NFL Comp. Donald Driver

14. New Orleans Saints – forfeited:

15. San Diego Chargers – DeAndre Hopkins* /WR/ Clemson:
Hopkins is stepping up big this season for Clemson. The only drawback might be how fast he actually is. NFL comp. Nate Burleson
*previous Mike Glennon

16. TRADE Chicago Bears (STL) – Zach Ertz* /TE/ Stanford:
Ertz doesn't look as good a prospect to me as Fleener, who went high 2nd last year but underperformed as a rookie. But with Kroomer in as OC, he’s a good fit for the offense. Bears move up using a 13' 5th and 14' 4th round pick. NFL Comp. Coby Fleener

17. Dallas Cowboys - Alex Okafor /DE/ Texas:
Okafor was the best Texas defender imo and also looked like the 2nd best DE at Mobile. NFL Comp.
*previous Barrett Jones

18. Pittsburgh Steelers – Manti Te'o /LB/ Notre Dame:
Imo, it’s becoming clearer that Teo’s role in the most bizarre pre draft controversy ever was of a gullible nice guy, rather then an unstable certified weirdo. GM Ozzie would be all over this. NFL comp. Rey Mauluga
*previous Ryan Nassib

19. New York Giants – Kevin Minter* /LB/ LSU:
Not flashy but Minter looks like a solid pro ILB.

20. TRADE St Louis Rams (CHI) – Khassem Greene /OLB/ Rutgers:
Former safety who's become a dominant defender and arguably the top OLB in the draft. Rams slide down and get Chicago's 5th rounder and 14' 4th rounder.

21. Washington Redskins – Phillip Thomas /S/ Fresno St:
Getting buzz as the first S taken, idk about that..but showed well senior week. His issue is open field tackling.

22. Minnesota Vikings – Jonathan Hankins* /DT/ Ohio State:
First round talent but questionable motor and poor game tape plus the quality defensive line depth in this draft has his stock dropping.
*previous Mike Glennon

23. Cincinnati Bengals – Gerald Hodges /OLB/ Penn State:
A guy really flying under the radar that is extremely athletic and showed some ability at the Shrine to play inside or outside.

24. Miami Dolphins (IND) – Kyle Long /OT-OG/ Oregon:
Ultra athletic project with some off field issues but a solid lineage.

25. Green Bay Packers – Giovanni Bernard* /RB/ North Carolina:
Not as fast as the big runs would indicate and has some durability concerns, but can make something out of nothing with impressive natural running skills. NFL Comp. Ahmad Bradshaw

26. Seattle Seahawks - Menelik Watson /OT/ Florida State:
Extremely raw but a tremendous talent for the position.
*previous John Hankins

27. Houston Texans – Robert Woods* /WR/ USC:
Woods is now the forgotten guy with Lee breaking out. What I like most is his toughness. NFL comp. Lance Moore
*previous DeAndre Hopkins

28. Denver Broncos – Brian Schwenke /OC/ California:
Mayock gushed about him all senior week. NFL Comp. Ryan Kalil
*previous Travis Frederick

29. New England Patriots – Justin Hunter* /WR/Tennessee:
BB does not shy from stocking talent at positions of need. Possible deep & red zone threat if he comes back fully from his knee injury. NFL comp. Malcolm Floyd

30. Atlanta Falcons – Gavin Escobar* /TE/ San Diego St
Big athletic TE who blocks and moves extremely well for his size. NFL Comp. Dennis Pitta

31. San Francisco 49ers – Ace Sanders*/WR/South Carolina:
Lightening quick jumpstarter for the offense and sts. NFL Comp. Devin Hester
*previous Kawaan Short

32. Baltimore Ravens – Sam Montgomery* /DE/ LSU:
Another guy I'm not really sold on but it's hard to tell with all the talent on LSU. Certainly took a hit to his stock after A&M. NFL comp. (taller) Brandon Graham
*previous Robert Woods




RD.3



1. Kansas City Chiefs – Stedman Bailey*/WR/ West Virginia:
High on Bailey since last year when I thought he physically abused Mo Claiborne at the los and out quicked him in the open field. He's underrated due to his big play teammate and should go higher. NFL Comp. Santana Moss
*previous Logan Ryan

2. Jacksonville Jaguars – Mike Glennon /QB/ NC State:
I was initially impressed how Glennon had come along this past season...then I took a look at him vs Virginia and it all fell apart-ditto his bowl game. Might pick up big numbers in the right offense but will probably never shake the tendency to make unforced mistakes. His best chance for success is to bide his time and hone his game. Hene has shown enough to be a solid bridge. Buyer beware. NFL Comp. Derek Anderson

3. Detroit Lions – Logan Ryan* /CB/ Rutgers:
Under the radar guy having a strong season on a great defense. Size, ball skills-needs to show well in the post season to rise. NFL Comp. Leon Hall
*previous Denard Robinson, Robert Alford

4. Oakland Raiders – Kiko Alonso /LB/ Oregon :
If he can convince teams his off field antics are entirely behind him, he could go here or higher with his talent.

5. Philadelphia Eagles – John Jenkins /DT/ Georgia:
Bust potential for sure but you can't coach up size + motor. Jenkins gets blown off the ball too often for a guy of his size but massive DTs who can move and hustle are rare commodities-I guess. NFL comp. Shaun Smith
*previous Logan Ryan

6. Cleveland Browns – E.J. Manuel /QB/ Florida State:
Great size, arm and mobility but doesn't utilize it all well. Passive and shrinks in the big moments. NFL Comp. Tarvares Jackson
*previous Robert Alford

7. Arizona Cardinals – Terron Armstead /OT/ Arkansas Pine-Bluff:
Held his own so far at post season all star practices at LT.
*previous Justin Pugh

8. Tennessee Titans – David Quessenberry /OG-OT/ San Jose State:
One of the best lineman at Mobile. Helped himself as much as anyone senior week. Great quickness and agility into the second level and nasty attitude but needs to get stronger.
*previous Phillip Thomas, Jon Cyprien

9. Buffalo Bills – Chris Harper /WR/ Kansas State:
Bigger WR that showed impressive speed and above average route running senior week. NFL Comp. Chris Chambers

10. New York Jets - John Simon /OLB-DE/ Ohio State:
He'll drop some because he's an inbetweener but he's one of those potential mid round steals.

11. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Markus Wheaton /WR/ Arizona State:
Wiry strong and lightening quick, Wheaton will outperform his draft position. NFL Comp. Victor Cruz
*previous Brian Winters

12. San Francisco 49ers (CAR) – Dion Sims* /TE/ Michigan St:
A bear of a blocker but with great hands and potential in the passing game. NFL Comp. Marcedes Lewis

13. New Orleans Saints – Robert Alford /CB/ Southeast Louisiana:
Lived up to the buzz senior week. NFL Comp.
*previous John Jenkins, Menelik Watson

14. San Diego Chargers – Le'Veon Bell* /RB/ Michigan State:
Chargers need a more reliable option in the backfield. Possibly the most slept on prospect right now. Mired on a terrible college offense, Bell will end up a steal in the NFL. Eddie George

15. Miami Dolphins – Marquis Goodwin /WR/ Texas:
Track guy showed well and looked like the top deep threat in Mobile.
*previous Markus Wheaton

16. St. Louis Rams – DJ Swearinger /S/ South Carolina:
Regarded as a high round pick in some places.
*previous Phillip Thomas, David Quessenberry

17. Pittsburgh Steelers – Denard Robinson /RB/ Michigan:
Didn't excite at senior week practices but showed more toughness arriving with an injury. I think his best position will be RB. He's what the Steelers hoped they were getting with Chris Rainey.
*previous Andrew Jackson

18. Dallas Cowboys - Montee Ball /RB/ Wisconsin:
Planning for Murray to get through all 16 gms is just wishful thinking.

19. New York Giants – Sylvester Williams /DT/ UNC:
Looks a little like Geno Atkins..every 10 snaps.
*Bruce Taylor

20. Miami Dolphins (CHI) – Justin Pugh /OT-OG/ Syracuse:
Knocked for his measurables at Mobile but looked like one of the best OTs there. NFL Comp. Eric Steinbach
*previous Sylvester Williams

21. Minnesota Vikings – Sio Moore /LB/ UConn:
A guy I’ve liked all season deservedly starting to generate buzz after a good showing at both the shrine and Mobile.
*previous Andrew Jackson

22. Cincinnati Bengals - Joseph Randle* /RB/ Oklahoma St.:
Quietly stepped up his game in the absence of Weeden and Blackmon. A complete back who should go higher then this. If he continues to get stronger as a pro, he'll be a pro bowl back. NFL comp. softer - DaMarco Murray

23. Washington Redskins – Leon McFadden /CB/ San Diego State:
Impressed senior week but must run well to maintain a lofty draft stock. NFL Comp. Leonard Johnson

24. Indianapolis Colts - Brandon Williams /NT/ Missouri Southern State:
After his performance senior week, he's rising.
*previous Justin Pugh, Brian Schwenke

25. Seattle Seahawks – Margus Hunt /DE/ SMU:
Still will shine at the combine but looked like an enormous project at senior week practices.
*previous Oday Aboushi

26. Green Bay Packers – Jordan Reed* /TE/ Florida:
Might start creating buzz after the combine. An underrated guy that would be a steal late 3rd. NFL Comp. Aaron Hernandez
*previous Travis Kelce

27. Houston Texans – Travis Kelce /TE/ Cincinnatti:
Reportedly will show off at the combine.
*previous Margus Hunt

28. Denver Broncos - Bennie Logan* /DT/ LSU:
LSU underclassman sale.
*previous Jordan Reed

29. TRADE St. Louis Rams (NE) – Tony Jefferson* /S/ Oklahoma:
Former coaches creating some bad buzz for Jefferson, dropping his stock.

30. Atlanta Falcons – Tank Carradine /DE/ Florida St:
Potential first rounder before late season ACL.
*previous Bennie Logan

31. San Francisco 49ers - Dustin Hopkins /K/ FSU:
Big enough need to go here in the 3rd.

32. Baltimore Ravens - J.J. Wilcox /S/ Georgia Southern:
Showed size/speed and skills to mold senior week.



RD.4



1. Jacksonville Jaguars – Melvin White /CB-S/ Louisiana-Lafayette.:
Russ Lande likes this guy. Tall, physical CB in the mold of Bradley’s former guys. NFL Comp. Brandon Browner

2. Kansas City Chiefs – Nickel Roby* /CB/ USC:
Small man to man tough guy.

3. Oakland Raiders – Alvin Bailey* /OG/ Arkansas :
Athletic big man could fit well in the Raiders scheme.

4. Philadelphia Eagles – B.W. Webb /CB/ William & Mary:
Singled out by many for his play at senior week practices.

5. Minnesota Vikings (DET)– Tavarres King /WR/ Georgia:
Playmaker with a knack to route running showed very well at senior week practices.
*previous Bennie Logan, Tank Carradine

6. Arizona Cardinals – Stephan Taylor /RB/ Stanford:
Solid all around RB didn’t disappoint senior week.

7. Cleveland Browns – Duke Williams /S/ Nevada:
Browns have a great big hole at FS. Williams actually reminds me a little of Brian Dawkins.

8. Buffalo Bills – Brandon Jenkins* /DE-OLB/ FSU:
Highly rated pre injury and could be a steal for whoever takes a chance.

9. New York Jets – Cobi Hamilton /WR/ Arkansas:
Huge fan of Hamilton. He's been unstoppable for the Razorbacks this season and has no weaknesses to his game-except all those he showed senior week;/ NFL Comp. Denarius Moore

10. Tennessee Titans – Jonathan Franklin /RB/ UCLA:
Looked great senior week but will always be undersized.

11. Carolina Panthers – Baccari Rambo /S/ Georgia:
Has all the athletic ability but needs good coaching to be a quality starter.

12. New Orleans Saints – Jordan Mills /OT/ Louisiana Tech:
I'm hearing the Saints will let Bushrod walk. Mills was a late add senior week played very well by all accounts.
*previous Tyrann Mathieu

13. San Diego Chargers – Andrew Jackson*/LB/Western Kentucky:
Small school destroyer looks like he could fit.
*previous Sio Moore

14. Miami Dolphins – David Bakhtiari* /OT/ Colorado:
Reportedly Bakhtari will open eyes at the combine.
*previous Cooper Taylor

15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Vance McDonald /TE/ Rice:
Impressed everyone in Mobile with his size and athleticism but still a big project.

16. St. Louis Rams – Aaron Dobson /WR/ Marshall:
Little doubt imo he’ll wind up a better pro WR then Quick.

17. Dallas Cowboys – Tyler Bray* /QB/ Tennessee:
He's got a Cutler/Stafford caliber arm but seemingly the intangibles of Matt Leinart. NFL Comp. Ryan Mallett

18. Pittsburgh Steelers – Mike Gillislee /RB/ Florida:
Gillislee will be a great mid round pick up for a team needed a RB to step in and contribute.

19. New York Giants – Brennan Williams /OT/UNC:
Coming back from injury, if everything works out, could wind up a steal.
*previous Shawn Williams

20. New Orleans Saints (CHI) – David Bass /DE/ Missouri Western State:
The defensive star of the Shrine week practices.

21. Cincinnati Bengals - Shawn Williams /S/ Georgia:
Testing well will really help his status and solidify him as a mid round guy. Mixed reviews senior week but held his own.
*previous Brennan Williams

22. Washington Redskins - Andre Ellington /RB/ Clemson:
Al Morris was great but he’s not a homerun hitter and Shanahan can’t lay off talented RBs. NFL Comp. Chris Johnson

23. Minnesota Vikings – Xavier Gooden /LB/ Missouri:
Undersized blazer creating some buzz but I seem to remember him losing it a couple seasons back and throwing a punch while he was trying to tackle a guy?
*previous Landry Jones

24. Indianapolis Colts - Dallas Thomas /OG-OT/ Tennessee:
Versatile and athletic helps out inside and outside.

25. Green Bay Packers – David Amerson*/S-CB/NC State:
First rounder as a Jr and a late round guy as a senior.

26. Seattle Seahawks – Jamie Collins/ LB/Southern Miss:
Extremely athletic but a project.

27. Houston Texans – William Ghoulston /DE/ Michigan State:
Underachiever best suited for a 5 technique.

28. Denver Broncos – Darius Slay /CB/ Mississippi State:
One year starter generating buzz and has ideal size.

29. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (NE) – William Campbell /DT/ Michigan:
Unheralded guy that will be a quality contributor for a long time.

30. Atlanta Falcons – Bruce Taylor /LB/ Virginia Tech:
Productive prospect currently way under the radar that plays run/pass well and rushes effectively.
*previous Keith Pough

31. San Francisco 49ers – Da'Rick Rogers* /WR/ Tenn. Tech:
Should probably stay another year but circumstances might have him declaring. NFL Comp. Kenny Britt

32. Baltimore Ravens - Tyrann Matthieu* /CB/ LSU:
Someone’s going to take the chance in the mid rounds.
*previous Jordan Mills

SuperPacker
01-25-2013, 01:52 PM
Terrible Chiefs 1st round pick.

For the Packers:

Datone Jones - No thank you. The majority of the time we play with 2 DL meaning Jones would be playing DT and he's too small. Plus we have Worthy, Wilson, Neal and Daniels. Not a need, slight reach and doesn't fit.

Bernard - Good value, I like him and fits a need.

Kelce - Same as Bernard.

Swearinger - Okay, but I see him as more of a SS which isn't really what we need.

Vaylor
01-25-2013, 01:55 PM
Patriots trading up for a WR would honestly make me rage. I would have rather taken Shariff Floyd or Quinton Patton AT #29.

Seasonticketholder
01-25-2013, 01:58 PM
In the first, Jonathan Hankins or Kenny Vaccaro for the Saints. In the third, trade down and take Brandon Jenkins. In the fourth, take Brandon Williams if Vaccaro is the pick in the first. If it s Hankins, then and Mathieu or Rogers.

coordinator0
01-25-2013, 01:58 PM
Te'o is a great pick for the Ravens in the first round. Woods is pretty good in the second round too but I'm not sure there's much room for him (or any WR) if both Boldin and Jones are kept on the team. That's a tough board for Baltimore though.

The third round pick is pretty much the only one I have a problem with. After taking Thompson last season they shouldn't be looking for another developmental safety. With as big of a need as the pass-rush will be and with Carradine and Jenkins still on the board one of those guys should easily be the pick. I would much prefer Amerson if you''re stuck on projecting a safety for the Ravens too. Mills is meh in the fourth round but it's not bad.

Trogdor
01-25-2013, 02:22 PM
Dallas moved to the 4-3 and will have a gaping hole at DE opposite Ware. If Ansah is available why in the world would they pass on him for an Antonio Garay type of player?

Rest of the draft for Dallas looks good.

Babylon
01-25-2013, 03:12 PM
Seattle

Great draft. Ogeltree can replace Leroy Hill who they've been trying to dump every time he screws up in the offseason. Aboushi can maybe play on the right side and even kick inside in a pinch. Goodman and Hankins certainly add depth to the D-line.

Interesting to see Geno Smith do the Brady Quinn fall there. I'm not sure you're not onto something.

Nastradamus
01-25-2013, 03:15 PM
Uh, Arizona is not trading away a LT. They take Fisher if he's there. They are about the most desperate team for an OT I've ever seen.

vidae
01-25-2013, 03:19 PM
This is pretty much the worst scenario for the Chiefs I've ever seen in a mock. Instead of the best QB in the draft we end up with another top 5 DLineman and Nick Foles? Christ, I don't know if I could legitimately handle that as a Chiefs fan. It would be more of the same garbage we've done for three decades.

Just not a good Chiefs mock my man.

mightytitan9
01-25-2013, 03:21 PM
Some of these NFL comparisons are just ridiculous.

As for my Titans draft:

1) Richardson - I am not as big on him as others, but with who is left on the board at the time of our selection I would be forced to take either him or Milliner.

2) David Quessenberry - I'd be really upset with this selection. I like Quess but there's guys with more talent still left on the board, passing on Jones who can play either Guard or Center would be a bad move. He's more of a 3rd or 4th rounder to me.

3) Jonathan Cyprien - Another player I'd be upset with, he's moved up the boards but I think he's still too high.

4) Jonathan Franklin - We have bigger needs than a RB like Franklin.

It looks like you put a little too much emphasis on the Shrine game and Senior Bowl practices...

T-RICH49
01-25-2013, 03:48 PM
This is pretty much the worst scenario for the Chiefs I've ever seen in a mock. Instead of the best QB in the draft we end up with another top 5 DLineman and Nick Foles? Christ, I don't know if I could legitimately handle that as a Chiefs fan. It would be more of the same garbage we've done for three decades.

Just not a good Chiefs mock my man.

What he said

Thecollegedropout
01-25-2013, 05:28 PM
New Jersey Jets? Ouch. lol.

As for picks...

Round 1: I love Warmack but he's not top 10 good....if we traded down a little bit, he hit the spot but I don't think we can afford to grab a guard to high up there no matter how good he might be. Likewise the WCO offense doesn't need a high guard picked to work, you can find plug in guards. I think Geno Smith would be a Jet...he's the type of QB Morhinweg would like.

Round 2: You know my feelings on Bray....I just don't like it. Don't think he's the right QB to succeed in NY. Good arm but what else does he bring to the table outside of confidence?

I guess if it means anything...better Bray than Glennon.

Round 3: I guess that's okay...I don't know enough about him and if he can work as a 3-4 OLB but we need OLB badly so I am fine with it.

Round 4: At this point, with no running back, tight end or safety taken....taking a WR just doesn't work for me. Greene is gone most likely, Keller is gone most likely, Landry might have priced himself out and Bell who knows....we need something in regards to one of those 3 spots here.

Can't say I'd be happy with this Jets draft.

49erNation85
01-25-2013, 06:28 PM
Awesome 49ers picks ! All around . Even the kicker. It's a major hole right now. Nice job!,

farfromforgotten
01-25-2013, 07:15 PM
23. TRADE Philadelphia Eagles (MINN) Geno Smith /QB/ West Virginia
Once a possible #1 overall pick, Smith's confidence took a major hit during WVU's losing skid. He played rattled and it affected his accuracy and decision making. Still, his physical skills and arm talent are solid, and he generally shows great poise and top notch work ethic. NFL comp. Aaron Brooks


During the Mountaineers 5 game losing streak (in which Smith's confidence comes in to question here) Smith completed 139-231 passes (60%) for 1,365 yards with 12 TD's and 5 INT's. In 3 of those losses, Smith threw 50+ passes. In only one of his wins did he throw 50+ passes. WVU's defense was pretty much all-time bad.

As for the 49ers: that's a pretty good mock for us. Love getting Rogers in the 4th round.

SickwithIt1010
01-25-2013, 07:42 PM
Robey is from USC.

And as much as I would like this draft. KC ain't gonna give up a 2nd for Nick Foles.

ChicagoBearsVet23
01-25-2013, 08:42 PM
LMAO @ 2nd round pick for Foles. He won't even net a 6th round pick.

Nastradamus
01-25-2013, 09:18 PM
Foles was a 2nd rounder last year. If you don't like him, then don't trade for him, but there's no reason to give him up for less than a 3rd. Keep him if you don't get your pick back.

Nastradamus
01-25-2013, 09:19 PM
New Jersey Jets? Ouch. lol.

As for picks...

Round 1: I love Warmack but he's not top 10 good....if we traded down a little bit, he hit the spot but I don't think we can afford to grab a guard to high up there no matter how good he might be. Likewise the WCO offense doesn't need a high guard picked to work, you can find plug in guards. I think Geno Smith would be a Jet...he's the type of QB Morhinweg would like.

Round 2: You know my feelings on Bray....I just don't like it. Don't think he's the right QB to succeed in NY. Good arm but what else does he bring to the table outside of confidence?

I guess if it means anything...better Bray than Glennon.

Round 3: I guess that's okay...I don't know enough about him and if he can work as a 3-4 OLB but we need OLB badly so I am fine with it.

Round 4: At this point, with no running back, tight end or safety taken....taking a WR just doesn't work for me. Greene is gone most likely, Keller is gone most likely, Landry might have priced himself out and Bell who knows....we need something in regards to one of those 3 spots here.

Can't say I'd be happy with this Jets draft.

Bray over Glennon? Yeesh, Bray is basically Glennon with half his brain missing.

wwgd
01-25-2013, 10:57 PM
14. Carolina Panthers – Cordarrelle Patterson*/WR/Tennessee:
Incredible open field runner for a taller guy. Extremely raw but his upside is off the charts. Smitty could be a strong mentor to help him perfect his craft. NFL Comp. Josh Cribbs -but with elite lateral quickness.

13. Carolina Panthers – Quinton Patton /WR/ Louisiana Tech:
Not fast but great feet and stop and start ability with solid size and catches everything. Dominated at Mobile. NFL Comp. (bigger) Donald Driver

11. Carolina Panthers – Baccari Rambo /S/ Georgia:
Has all the athletic ability but needs good coaching to be a quality starter.


Would be quite happy with any of these guys, however why do you have us picking back to back receivers? Makes absolutely no sense to me. At least one of the first two picks should be an offensive lineman/defensive tackle.

thebow305
01-25-2013, 11:00 PM
Im assuming you think the Phins will sign Greg Jennings or Bowe, because if we didnt and all we got out of the first 4 rounds at WR is Wheaton, that is an EPIC FAIL. Either way, Cordarrelle over Eifert please! Idc how high his stock goes, Eifert is just not worth a top 12 pick!

mqtirishfan
01-25-2013, 11:06 PM
If the Packers had a chance to take Margus Hunt in the 3rd, and took a TE instead, I'd be a sad panda.

ChicagoBearsVet23
01-26-2013, 12:35 AM
Bears would take Ogletree in the 1st and Dallas Thomas in the 4th

Cigaro
01-26-2013, 12:49 AM
Did you forget our first round pick when you chose our second? I'm a big fan of Patterson, and if we decide to not go OL/DT first round, he'd be my primary option. But if we take him, we can't take Patton. I'm a fan of Patton as well, but we simply have to address our trench problem.

Taber21
01-26-2013, 10:08 AM
I like the value the Vikings get with both of those DE's but with Allen, Robison, and Griffin already on the roster and playing well, hard to make sense taking two more DE's this early. The trade down works great for them though, and the other picks all fit very well.

wicket
01-26-2013, 11:09 AM
the guys i would pick for the saints given the specific bigboard:

1(20): Kenny Vaccaro is flat out a higher rated prospect than Elam, im fine with either though.

3(13): John Jenkins as the saints need a NT more than anything else on the DLine.

4(12): David Amerson over Mathieu for sure, saints need corners with starting potential, have no use for a slot guy/special teams dude, enough of those but we have nobody who can play the outside, gamble on the guy with the higher upside

4(20): Chase Thomas would start instantly for the saints, not a clue why he is still on the board but i wouldnt even mind spending a third rounder on him. If you made a mistake and just forgot him you can slot him in with the third rounder and spend this pick on Brandon Williams

noondog
01-27-2013, 12:24 AM
Lions draft:

Don't like Mingo at #5. If they're going to reach, I'd rather it be for Milliner, otherwise trade down. Obviously taking Milliner could impact the 2nd round pick of Banks, although I can think of worse things than coming out of the draft with two CBs to build on moving forward.

Denard Robinson in the 3rd is a big no-no. Lions are absolutely not ina position to draft a project that high. Schwenke and Wheaton would be solid value and need.

HEISMANHERSCHEL
01-27-2013, 12:57 AM
Except for the third round Texans pick, I love this draft for the boys and texans

BallerT1215
01-27-2013, 05:45 AM
I really love the Bills picks. Covers all our needs with ILB/QB/Solid WR to put across stevie ....although I would prefer Da'rick Rogers over Harper.

but....

Am I assuming we got Indy's 2014 1st rnd pick? because we trade down to 24 and didnt get their 2nd or 3rd rnd pick?

Brown Leader
01-27-2013, 03:11 PM
Terrible Chiefs 1st round pick.

For the Packers:

Datone Jones - No thank you. The majority of the time we play with 2 DL meaning Jones would be playing DT and he's too small. Plus we have Worthy, Wilson, Neal and Daniels. Not a need, slight reach and doesn't fit.

Bernard - Good value, I like him and fits a need.

Kelce - Same as Bernard.

Swearinger - Okay, but I see him as more of a SS which isn't really what we need.

Since they let Cullen Jenkins walk, the Packers lack an athletic attacking DE, which thanks to Watt, is the rage now. Worthy was meant to replace him but I haven't heard anything special about him as a rookie. 5tech is what Jones played at Cal-he's undersized but he defensed the run pretty well. His main job on the Packers would be to generate pressure. Almost all their other guys are short, squat types who struggle creating any pass pressure and will be UFA after next season. On Swearinger - I think he started out as a CB and still lines up as a CB in certain situations.

Brown Leader
01-27-2013, 03:22 PM
Te'o is a great pick for the Ravens in the first round. Woods is pretty good in the second round too but I'm not sure there's much room for him (or any WR) if both Boldin and Jones are kept on the team. That's a tough board for Baltimore though.

The third round pick is pretty much the only one I have a problem with. After taking Thompson last season they shouldn't be looking for another developmental safety. With as big of a need as the pass-rush will be and with Carradine and Jenkins still on the board one of those guys should easily be the pick. I would much prefer Amerson if you''re stuck on projecting a safety for the Ravens too. Mills is meh in the fourth round but it's not bad.

Boldin has carried the offense at times in the playoffs but he's got one more season under contract and is slowing down. Getting a sure talent in this draft to take his place in a season seems like a good move. S vs a couple DEs coming off injuries who may or may not project to 34 OLBs? Idk. Wilcox is getting quite a bit of love from NFLN's Mayock and Charles Davis after spending just one year at S-pretty high praise.

coordinator0
01-27-2013, 03:46 PM
Boldin has carried the offense at times in the playoffs but he's got one more season under contract and is slowing down. Getting a sure talent in this draft to take his place in a season seems like a good move. S vs a couple DEs coming off injuries who may or may not project to 34 OLBs? Idk. Wilcox is getting quite a bit of love from NFLN's Mayock and Charles Davis after spending just one year at S-pretty high praise.

I think Boldin is getting an extension after this season. It would give the Ravens some cap relief and I'm pretty sure they want to keep him around.

That's fine if they don't eventually fit at 3-4 OLB, Baltimore has been running a lot more 4-man lines (especially in pass-rushing situations). It's going to be the biggest need on the team after Kruger signs somewhere else in free agency and it absolutely needs to be addressed whenever and however it can in the draft since Baltimore isn't going to be a free agency player at all.

My point still stands with Wilcox though. They don't need another project safety, which is exactly what he is regardless of what praise he's getting from Mayock and Davis.

maverick85
01-27-2013, 04:21 PM
I love the trade down for Buffalo but i hate the Barkley pick. He struggles to throw the deep ball and in Buffalo in the winter thats a huge downside. I feel like they would be drafting a younger version of Fitz. Switch that pick to Glennon and the 3rd rounder to Da'rick Rodgers and i would love this draft

Brown Leader
01-27-2013, 06:22 PM
Dallas moved to the 4-3 and will have a gaping hole at DE opposite Ware. If Ansah is available why in the world would they pass on him for an Antonio Garay type of player?

Rest of the draft for Dallas looks good.

It looks promising that they'll resign Spencer but...think they'd pass on Mingo?

Brown Leader
01-27-2013, 06:24 PM
Seattle

Great draft. Ogeltree can replace Leroy Hill who they've been trying to dump every time he screws up in the offseason. Aboushi can maybe play on the right side and even kick inside in a pinch. Goodman and Hankins certainly add depth to the D-line.

Interesting to see Geno Smith do the Brady Quinn fall there. I'm not sure you're not onto something.

Updated and swapped out Goodman for Hunt. Aboushi's stock is terrible after last week.

SuperPacker
01-27-2013, 06:26 PM
Since they let Cullen Jenkins walk, the Packers lack an athletic attacking DE, which thanks to Watt, is the rage now. Worthy was meant to replace him but I haven't heard anything special about him as a rookie. 5tech is what Jones played at Cal-he's undersized but he defensed the run pretty well. His main job on the Packers would be to generate pressure. Almost all their other guys are short, squat types who struggle creating any pass pressure and will be UFA after next season. On Swearinger - I think he started out as a CB and still lines up as a CB in certain situations.

Well unless he gains 15 lbs he isn't a fit in our defense, but whatever.

Brown Leader
01-27-2013, 06:29 PM
Uh, Arizona is not trading away a LT. They take Fisher if he's there. They are about the most desperate team for an OT I've ever seen.

More desperate for a QB. Why not throw some FA money at a starting LT, try for a franchise QB with their first pick and force a team to give up picks for Fisher.

Brown Leader
01-27-2013, 07:06 PM
This is pretty much the worst scenario for the Chiefs I've ever seen in a mock. Instead of the best QB in the draft we end up with another top 5 DLineman and Nick Foles? Christ, I don't know if I could legitimately handle that as a Chiefs fan. It would be more of the same garbage we've done for three decades.

Just not a good Chiefs mock my man.
What he said
Robey is from USC.

And as much as I would like this draft. KC ain't gonna give up a 2nd for Nick Foles.

2nd year Nick Foles with 7 starts is about as good as any QB KC could draft this year.

2nd seems high and it's fun to knock him but but Foles played very well and there's no way to tell what he might be. Drafted 3rd then traded for a 3rd, after what was a pretty promising start to his career, at the game's most important position, seems like too great of a bargain for Reid.

And really, I like this fit for Star. He makes a more natural 34 5 tech then 34 NT.

SickwithIt1010
01-27-2013, 07:10 PM
Bears would take Ogletree in the 1st and Dallas Thomas in the 4th

Oh is that right? Damn, fortune teller....

Brown Leader
01-27-2013, 07:29 PM
Some of these NFL comparisons are just ridiculous.

Which ones?

As for my Titans draft:

1) Richardson - I am not as big on him as others, but with who is left on the board at the time of our selection I would be forced to take either him or Milliner.

2) David Quessenberry - I'd be really upset with this selection. I like Quess but there's guys with more talent still left on the board, passing on Jones who can play either Guard or Center would be a bad move. He's more of a 3rd or 4th rounder to me.

3) Jonathan Cyprien - Another player I'd be upset with, he's moved up the boards but I think he's still too high.

4) Jonathan Franklin - We have bigger needs than a RB like Franklin.

It looks like you put a little too much emphasis on the Shrine game and Senior Bowl practices...

Idk about Quess. He's got some Jared Veldheer to him. I guess they had him at OG,OT and C during senior practices. Didn't know much about him until the practices but he dominated the 1 on 1s and looked especially quick getting to his man in the game. A little underpowered but that's expected. He reminds me of Mitchell Schwartz, in that he was regarded as a 3-4th rounder until Mobile, then ended up a solid 2nd round pick.

As far as emphasis on the post season practices...meh.. course the majority of first couple rounds still going to the juniors. I'm basing some of the movement on what it's been like the past couple seasons and who flashed and where they went-what's been said..so forth. good point though..and to your point I'll check more on Quess/Cyprien during their season when I get the opportunity.

EDIT checked more on Quessenbery and he struggles a bit more with power then you'd like. Having him taken over Jones/Frederick was too much.

9. Tennessee Titans – Barrett Jones /OC-OG/ Alabama:

Brown Leader
01-27-2013, 08:59 PM
New Jersey Jets? Ouch. lol.

As for picks...

Round 1: I love Warmack but he's not top 10 good....if we traded down a little bit, he hit the spot but I don't think we can afford to grab a guard to high up there no matter how good he might be. Likewise the WCO offense doesn't need a high guard picked to work, you can find plug in guards. I think Geno Smith would be a Jet...he's the type of QB Morhinweg would like.

Round 2: You know my feelings on Bray....I just don't like it. Don't think he's the right QB to succeed in NY. Good arm but what else does he bring to the table outside of confidence?

I guess if it means anything...better Bray than Glennon.

Round 3: I guess that's okay...I don't know enough about him and if he can work as a 3-4 OLB but we need OLB badly so I am fine with it.

Round 4: At this point, with no running back, tight end or safety taken....taking a WR just doesn't work for me. Greene is gone most likely, Keller is gone most likely, Landry might have priced himself out and Bell who knows....we need something in regards to one of those 3 spots here.

Can't say I'd be happy with this Jets draft.

Thing is, Idzik is not a football guy. They couldn't get a top football guy to come in (as yet) and work with Rex for a year. Whoever is making the decisions on scouting and big board may not be terribly experienced. Warmack's a near can't miss. He fits Rex's scheme and it's a position of need.

But what else do you need in NYC but a big gun and confidence;/ I think Rex would love Bray's style-fans too, but if the decision is Idzik's, maby considering the possibility of Rex not even coaching in 14', then maby not. Agreed about a WR, just thought Hamilton was a steal in the 4th.

Shupp
01-27-2013, 09:19 PM
Would have loved John Jenkins in the 3rd for the 49ers but well done.

Nastradamus
01-27-2013, 10:13 PM
More desperate for a QB. Why not throw some FA money at a starting LT, try for a franchise QB with their first pick and force a team to give up picks for Fisher.

Go QB then, but you don't trade down if you have your eyes on a franchise QB.

Brown Leader
01-28-2013, 07:39 AM
Go QB then, but you don't trade down if you have your eyes on a franchise QB.

Unless you can get him a few spots later.

Would have loved John Jenkins in the 3rd for the 49ers but well done.
thanks. I really don't like Jenkins from what I've seen. Bad tape doesn't matter as much with guys like him apparently-"planet theory" thing. Read something recently that while he stepped up his effort in day 2 and 3 of practices, he didn't translate it to Sat game.

Brown Leader
01-28-2013, 08:25 AM
During the Mountaineers 5 game losing streak (in which Smith's confidence comes in to question here) Smith completed 139-231 passes (60%) for 1,365 yards with 12 TD's and 5 INT's. In 3 of those losses, Smith threw 50+ passes. In only one of his wins did he throw 50+ passes. WVU's defense was pretty much all-time bad.

As for the 49ers: that's a pretty good mock for us. Love getting Rogers in the 4th round.

I've not really looked at Smith stats. I'm sure you know they don't tell the whole story. I watched most of their games this season and if you compare his play from mid season on to how he played early in the year, he looked like a different guy. I'm attributing it to confidence because in those later games he just wasn't making the same throws he was regularly making earlier, whether he had time or not. You're saying that the pressure to score points in droves eventually wore on him? I suppose that's possible. Here's part of a different take that brings up another valid issue imo..In almost all his games where he didn't put up big numbers it was because the defense was putting consistent pressure on him. They weren't sacking him every time, but just the fact that they were getting there consistently would completely change Geno's game. All of the sudden he becomes inaccurate, he starts missing these throws he would normally make.

Even when sometimes he has time in these games it seems that once he's shaken up he struggles to get past it and he just can't throw with the same ability he does in games where he really has it going. This makes him sound completely terrible when rattled-he's not that bad if you look at the #'s, and he still seems to stay quite poised in the pocket, but it is a big negative I have found and it just seems to shake him up for the whole game, thus he can't put up the big #'s he needs to come back in games where they need the passing game to do the work.

Brown Leader
01-28-2013, 08:42 AM
Would be quite happy with any of these guys, however why do you have us picking back to back receivers? Makes absolutely no sense to me. At least one of the first two picks should be an offensive lineman/defensive tackle.
Did you forget our first round pick when you chose our second? I'm a big fan of Patterson, and if we decide to not go OL/DT first round, he'd be my primary option. But if we take him, we can't take Patton. I'm a fan of Patton as well, but we simply have to address our trench problem.

Panthers' talent outside of Smith, who's def in decline, is not good. Olsen is overrated imo. Patterson is a huge talent but he's also a project that might take some time-or at least you might not want to rush him. Patton, though, is better then anyone they have outside of Smitty. Adding weapons on offense takes some of that monumental pressure off of Cam. I'd imagine his development is still the top priority for the entire organization. OL/DL then becomes day 3 need.

Abaddon
01-28-2013, 08:55 AM
4. Oakland Raiders – Kiko Alonso /LB/ Oregon :
If he can convince teams his off field antics are entirely behind him, he could go here or higher with his talent.


McKenzie doesn't appear to do off the field troubles. He likes choir boys.

Seasonticketholder
01-28-2013, 12:10 PM
If Mingo is on the board at #15, it makes little sense for the Saints to trade down.

eliasrapp98
01-28-2013, 06:03 PM
So Eagles never draft a safety and don't get a CB till round 4?

Brown Leader
01-28-2013, 10:32 PM
the guys i would pick for the saints given the specific bigboard:

1(20): Kenny Vaccaro is flat out a higher rated prospect than Elam, im fine with either though.

3(13): John Jenkins as the saints need a NT more than anything else on the DLine.

4(12): David Amerson over Mathieu for sure, saints need corners with starting potential, have no use for a slot guy/special teams dude, enough of those but we have nobody who can play the outside, gamble on the guy with the higher upside

4(20): Chase Thomas would start instantly for the saints, not a clue why he is still on the board but i wouldnt even mind spending a third rounder on him. If you made a mistake and just forgot him you can slot him in with the third rounder and spend this pick on Brandon Williams

EDIT 1 - 20. TRADE New Orleans Saints (CHI) - Kenny Vaccaro /S/ Texas:
3 - 13. New Orleans Saints John Jenkins /NT/ Georgia:

Mathieu > Amerson easily. I've got Thomas as a 5th rounder. Right now, I'm not sure I like him better then Meshak Williams and Stansly Maponga.

Brown Leader
01-28-2013, 10:39 PM
Lions draft:

Don't like Mingo at #5. If they're going to reach, I'd rather it be for Milliner, otherwise trade down. Obviously taking Milliner could impact the 2nd round pick of Banks, although I can think of worse things than coming out of the draft with two CBs to build on moving forward.

Denard Robinson in the 3rd is a big no-no. Lions are absolutely not ina position to draft a project that high. Schwenke and Wheaton would be solid value and need.

Updated to Ansah at #5. Different kind of reach; At least Ansah's assured of being a solid run defender. I'm projecting Robinson as more a RB then WR. I think he could be something like a Darren Sproles-Percy Harvin. Anxious to see how he officially tests at the combine but I like your other choices too.

Brown Leader
01-28-2013, 10:50 PM
I love the trade down for Buffalo but i hate the Barkley pick. He struggles to throw the deep ball and in Buffalo in the winter thats a huge downside. I feel like they would be drafting a younger version of Fitz. Switch that pick to Glennon and the 3rd rounder to Da'rick Rodgers and i would love this draft

I know. But...he's a great fit if Marrone stays with that offense. Bad weather games are more about running the ball and defense. As long as your QB makes good decisions and is accurate he'll do. I feel like Glennon is going to remain as inconsistent in the pros as he was in college.

Brown Leader
01-28-2013, 11:04 PM
If Mingo is on the board at #15, it makes little sense for the Saints to trade down.

Good point-working on that. Will Smith and Roman Harper carry sizable cap figures. I'd guess they might be released or restructured. Which is the more valuable player? Do you think they'll both be back?

Menardo75
01-29-2013, 12:04 AM
I think the second round is a little high for Sanders. Also don't like two WR's in the first four picks. They need to address OLB and DL in the first few rounds.

Poz51
01-29-2013, 11:13 AM
sup. updated 1/27


RD.1


24 TRADE Buffalo Bills (IND) - Matt Barkley /QB/ USC:

10. Buffalo Bills Kevin Minter* /LB/ LSU:

12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Desmond Trufant /CB/Washington:
13. Carolina Panthers Quinton Patton /WR/ Louisiana Tech:
16. St Louis Rams Khassem Greene /OLB/ Rutgers:
20. Chicago Bears Zach Ertz* /TE/ Stanford:
27. Houston Texans DeAndre Hopkins* /WR/ Clemson:

9. Buffalo Bills Chris Harper /WR/ Kansas State:

17. Pittsburgh Steelers Sio Moore /LB/ UConn:
31. Baltimore Ravens - J.J. Wilcox /S/ Georgia Southern:

8. Buffalo Bills Brandon Jenkins* /DE-OLB/ FSU:
11. Carolina Panthers Baccari Rambo /S/ Georgia:
13. San Diego Chargers Andrew Jackson*/LB/Western Kentucky:
32. San Francisco 49ers Da'Rick Rogers* /WR/ Tenn. Tech:


Im warming up to the Barkley to the Bills idea, primarily because I think he could come in from day one and run the offense. Not my preference, but for the team it makes sense. Minter in the second makes sense, but I think the value is better else where. I have been really high on Hopkins for a while and remain that way still, having him as a top 20 value, and would take him or Greene at that spot, maybe even Trufant over Minter. In the 3rd having taken "Nuke" in the 2nd I would suspect Moore would be the pick at OLB, although I like Wilcox fit in respect to what Marrone has had at SS during his time at Syracuse, as well as G. Wilson declining and the Bills being interested in Barron last year. Jenkins in the 4th should he recover from his injury would be a good pick, especially if they run the hybrid defense, I liken Jackson to Bart Scott, so I could see that, Rambo would have time to develop as Wilson's career winds down, so depending on how the first three rounds play out, they all make sense.
Personnally I think a draft that went down like this; Barkley, Hopkins, Moore, Jackson/Rambo would be acceptable and make the most sense all things considered. Jackson if they plan on more 34 looks, Rambo if the idea is to run more 43 looks defensively.
I too would hope that they get more than just a 14' 1st to move back 16 spots, but a QB and a extra 14' 1st is nice.

Brown Leader
01-31-2013, 09:05 AM
This is pretty much the worst scenario for the Chiefs I've ever seen in a mock. Instead of the best QB in the draft we end up with another top 5 DLineman and Nick Foles? Christ, I don't know if I could legitimately handle that as a Chiefs fan. It would be more of the same garbage we've done for three decades.

Just not a good Chiefs mock my man.
What he said

Scratch that trade. Finally giving Geno his due, just not #1 overall dues.

killxswitch
01-31-2013, 09:23 AM
Trades are neat and I like Jarvis Jones as a prospect, but there's no way in hell the Colts would trade up that high to take a guy with spinal stenosis.

Brown Leader
02-01-2013, 12:08 AM
Trades are neat and I like Jarvis Jones as a prospect, but there's no way in hell the Colts would trade up that high to take a guy with spinal stenosis.

Well, of course no one knows to what degree the condition is. But some team is going to love him and risk a move. With the new cba, it's not as much of a make or break move.

RCAChainGang
02-01-2013, 12:13 AM
Love the players the Colts got, but I'm not sure about trading up for Jones. But who knows what the FO is thinking. Nice mock.

DiG
02-01-2013, 07:20 AM
Ellington is an intriguing pick in the 4th. Te 2nd and 3rd round picks are hot sex.

Matthew Jones
02-01-2013, 07:41 AM
I can't imagine the Patriots trading up for a slot receiver in a deep receiver class, especially because they only have four draft picks.

maverick85
02-01-2013, 08:11 AM
Instead of Barkley give Buffalo Tyler Wilson in the 1st and Da'rick Rodgers in the 3rd

leroyisgod
02-01-2013, 09:13 AM
I like your Cowboys picks, but I'd like to address our OL in the top 2 rounds though. I do love the Ball pick in round 3.

causticon
02-01-2013, 10:31 AM
Nice work, but....in 4 rounds, you don't have the Broncos addressing MLB or DT? The Broncos will not draft a TE in the first 4 rounds. They signed 2 last year to multiple year deals and TE production was good.

K Train
02-01-2013, 11:16 AM
i can get on board with keenan allen in round 1

but nassib over ertz is INSANE, let alone fluker and montgomery being on the board still. Heath miller just had his best season under haley but blew out his knee, they need someone to compliment him and eventually replace him.

Fluker could step into LG right away

and in the third i would take brandon jenkins, margus hunt, montee ball over moore

gissellie over amerson is another crazy pick, the steelers need a FS and amerson is not a guy im crazy about as a CB but hes the perfect conversion guy. Got ball skills, is rangy, good speed, and can really hit.

Keenan Allen
Zach Ertz/DJ Fluker
Brandon Jenkins
David Amerson

would be a perfect draft

Brown Leader
02-01-2013, 12:50 PM
Nice work, but....in 4 rounds, you don't have the Broncos addressing MLB or DT? The Broncos will not draft a TE in the first 4 rounds. They signed 2 last year to multiple year deals and TE production was good.

Thanks. good point. I think Reed is much more talented then Tamme but that's too much of a luxury pick. Edited it: 28. Denver Broncos - Bennie Logan* /DT/ LSU: side note- I loved Trevathan as a prospect last year and I won't be surprised if he earns a more prominent role this season-not necessarily starting MLB, at his size, but just much more playing time.

Brown Leader
02-01-2013, 12:55 PM
I can't imagine the Patriots trading up for a slot receiver in a deep receiver class, especially because they only have four draft picks.

You don't think Austin is a little more then just a slot WR? And that's why BB will trade Mallett. I find it hard to believe he drafted him to actually be Brady's successor-I think it was simply to turn it around for a future draft choice.

Brown Leader
02-01-2013, 01:08 PM
i can get on board with keenan allen in round 1

but nassib over ertz is INSANE, let alone fluker and montgomery being on the board still. Heath miller just had his best season under haley but blew out his knee, they need someone to compliment him and eventually replace him.

Fluker could step into LG right away

and in the third i would take brandon jenkins, margus hunt, montee ball over moore

gissellie over amerson is another crazy pick, the steelers need a FS and amerson is not a guy im crazy about as a CB but hes the perfect conversion guy. Got ball skills, is rangy, good speed, and can really hit.

Keenan Allen
Zach Ertz/DJ Fluker
Brandon Jenkins
David Amerson

would be a perfect draft

Allen's my favorite player in the draft. It pains me to mock him to the Steelers. You're right about Ertz-changed it to the Bears moving ahead to get him. I'm not convinced about Amerson yet. I need to see him at the combine and hear more analysts takes on him.

Abaddon
02-02-2013, 06:50 AM
Im warming up to the Barkley to the Bills idea.

It doesn't seem redundant to you? I don't think he's physically much of an upgrade over Fitzpatrick.

Smooth Criminal
02-02-2013, 08:41 AM
Steelers need way to much help on defense to have the luxury of taking a QB in the 2nd round to project as nothing more than a backup.

Sign a vet to be the backup. We need help at every level on the defense, one linebacker in the top 4 rounds isn't going to help fix that unit.

rawdawg
02-02-2013, 09:09 AM
I love the Bears draft. If they could get Johnson and Ertz, that would be amazing. But that would mean a team with 20 Free agents is only realistically adding 2 players thru the draft (traded 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th, and 6th round isn't very likely to make the team). It's just a poor use of resources. Especially when you've now traded 2 of the 7 picks in the 2014 draft, when they again have several FAs again next year as well.

At first I thought the trades were ridiculously in favor of the Bears, but looking at last year it's similar to what the Pats gave up to move up 6 picks in the 1st and what the Eagles gave up to move up 3 spots.

eliasrapp98
02-02-2013, 09:50 PM
3 CBs to the Eagles... Are you stupid or something?

nobodyinparticular
02-03-2013, 12:15 PM
Do you think Kiko Alonso can play ILB in a 3-4 scheme?

Brown Leader
02-03-2013, 04:15 PM
3 CBs to the Eagles... Are you stupid or something?

;/... but good catch. I saw that on the last update but haven't had time to fix it. Edited..
3. - 5. Philadelphia Eagles – John Jenkins /NT/ Georgia:

Brown Leader
02-03-2013, 04:24 PM
Do you think Kiko Alonso can play ILB in a 3-4 scheme?

I think I like him better inside in an attacking 34 scheme then as a 43 MLB.

CJSchneider
02-03-2013, 04:58 PM
the guys i would pick for the saints given the specific bigboard:

1(20): Kenny Vaccaro is flat out a higher rated prospect than Elam, im fine with either though.

3(13): John Jenkins as the saints need a NT more than anything else on the DLine.

4(12): David Amerson over Mathieu for sure, saints need corners with starting potential, have no use for a slot guy/special teams dude, enough of those but we have nobody who can play the outside, gamble on the guy with the higher upside

4(20): Chase Thomas would start instantly for the saints, not a clue why he is still on the board but i wouldnt even mind spending a third rounder on him. If you made a mistake and just forgot him you can slot him in with the third rounder and spend this pick on Brandon Williams

I'm also concerned that we waited until the 4th to address our front 7 in anyway shape or form.

J-Mike88
02-14-2013, 09:09 PM
This is pretty much the worst scenario for the Chiefs I've ever seen in a mock. Instead of the best QB in the draft we end up with another top 5 DLineman and Nick Foles? Christ, I .Dane? Jesus is not eligbile