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Borat
02-02-2013, 03:29 PM
OK guys. I'm sorry I dropped the ball on the GDT. My bad. No excuses. I didn't do it.

So, to save this abomination of a GDT, I think we should do a collaborative GDT. It would be awesome to see some of your creative thoughts added to my totally amazing ones. Just think of a matchup, joke, whatever and put it to pictures. If it goes well, I'll merge them all together to make a real GDT.

I'll post what I had done so far (not much) to start it off. Let's see what you got.

******


SUPER BOWL XLVII: BALTIMORE RAVENS VS. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

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Baltimore Ravens
Vs.
San Francisco 49ers


Location: The Superdome
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Time: Sunday, February 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm pst
Line: SF -3.5
Announcers(FOX): Jim Nance, Phil Simms, Steve Tasker and Solomon Wilcots

The Super Bowl. I love taking a minute to just revel in it. Just chill out and bust out the Andy Dufresne face. Itís so nice.

http://www.getbusylivingnatural.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/andy-1.jpg

Itís so damn difficult to get there. You just gotta sit back and enjoy it. And also stay out of the NFL Forum.
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Disclaimer** I was thinking about how to approach this thread, and I just really donít want to break this game down too much. Itís been done to death already. So, I figure this thread should contain a great deal of thoughts on the 2012 season and a shitt ton of love for past glory. I mean, 5-0 in Super Bowl history? Respekt.

Remember this:
http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2013/01/24/13/42/KwXOf.St.4.jpeg

And this:
http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/0517/nfl_u_johntaylor_cmg_600.jpg

**** yea, definitely this:
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And what the hell, this and this:
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The 2012 49ers: Just a crazy season. We knew they were capable of getting to the Super Bowl. They had the talent, the coaching, the newly acquired postseason experience. They had a lot of mojo going into the season. But Ö that schedule. My God. That schedule kept me up nights. Honestly, did you really think theyíd win this game:

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Or win here:
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Or here:
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-VS079_1216mo_G_20121216211200.jpg

Of course, I didnít expect this:
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Or this:
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This again:
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But really, this season is about this:
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Balls. Also known as:
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Stones. Which, amazingly, is somehow synonymous with
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Nuts.
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Yes, Jim, you have massive, gigantic, eye-shattering balls. And stones. And nuts. Making the move to CK was ******* brilliant. Sorry Alex. Jim was right.

Special Note:
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I donít know about you, but Iím hard.

dan77733
02-02-2013, 04:16 PM
Good thread Borat.

I told everyone to back Harbaugh's decision when he switched to Kaepernick but everyone here bashed me and still wanted Smith. I have backed Kaepernick since he started the Bears and as everyone here should know, I wanted him to start that game and not look back. 9 games into his career as our starting franchise QB, his worse game was against the Seahawks and that wasnt even bad all things considered. He crushed the Packers and sent their ass packing back to Green Bay. His ability to run the ball has made him a huge weapon and threat that unlike with Smith, opposing defense's have to plan for and because of that, Gore and James ran us to the Super Bowl.

Now, in his tenth game as a starter, Kaepernick is following in the footsteps of Brady/Montana/Young and not if but when we win tomorrow, its going to be the start of a new dynasty and a new era in the NFL. All the "favorites" like Manning, Brady, etc. are done. They had their time. Now is our time and Kaepernick's time and Harbaugh's time.

Cant wait for the game. 49ers FTW!!!

Once the 49ers win their 6th Super Bowl, they will be the best franchise in the NFL yet again. Yeah yeah, Steelers have 6th Super Bowl Championships too but they'll be second best because you cant be better than a team that's undefeated in the Super Bowl. After all, being undefeated is perfection and no team can or ever will match us.

**** YEAH!!!!!

Ravens 17
49ers 28

Kaepernick: 18/22, 265, 2 TD, 0 INT, 0 sacks, 0 fumb
Gore: over 100 yards and a TD.
Defensive TD will get us the lead and Kap's second TD pass will put the game away and make Kaepernick Super Bowl MVP!!!

:) :) :)

Justone2
02-02-2013, 04:25 PM
In my mind Kaep worst game was the second one against the Rams. Besides from that i still think we could have gone to the Superbowl with Alex Smith but am happy to see Kaep do so good while there still is a lot he has to learn.

Aside from that i really hope we can come out of the gates blazing and be the only team that has been in multiple Superbowls without losing.

Ness
02-02-2013, 05:42 PM
MILF alert at Super Bowl week.

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49erNation85
02-02-2013, 11:51 PM
One more day fellas and the Super bowl is here!Can't wait to watch the game eating pizza and wings and getting drunk hopefully. Gonna be a hell of a show. I just hope we have no turn overs and Akers doesn't kick any thing over 30 yards tomorrow.

Brent
02-02-2013, 11:57 PM
I am already drinking. To calm my nerves, of course.

EDIT: I bought a lot of Steam Anchor to drink tomorrow.

EDIT2: I am going to be a mess if the Niners lose.

Ness
02-03-2013, 12:50 AM
If the 49ers get decent to good pressure on Flacco I think this game is in the bag. Unless we keep turning the ball over. If we don't turn the ball over and we don't get pressure on Flacco, I think we'll lose. I don't see our offense being that great against the Ravens defense. A lot of people are predicting a game in the 20's, but this could be a game that plays out a little closer to the vest like a couple of years back. Wouldn't be surprised.

By the way I hope our secondary plays better than they have in recent weeks. They haven't looked that impressive. And we haven't faced a good defense since Seattle. We all know how that went.

49erNation85
02-03-2013, 10:22 AM
It's here,It's here finally Super bowl Sunday people!!! It is time to party it up and start drinking and watching the pre game show and what not. go 49ers!!!

Borat
02-03-2013, 11:59 AM
For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God.

Bloody Mary. Full of vodka. Blessed art thou among cocktails. Pray for me and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.
Amen.

CJSchneider
02-03-2013, 02:03 PM
I am already drinking. To calm my nerves, of course.

EDIT: I bought a lot of Steam Anchor to drink tomorrow.

EDIT2: I am going to be a mess if the Niners lose.

Whether you end up drinking with joy, or with sorrow, you should have already planned ahead and scheduled a sub.

Ness
02-03-2013, 05:22 PM
I hope guys all enjoy the game. San Francisco is poppin here. Let's go get a win everyone.

farfromforgotten
02-03-2013, 06:59 PM
Hopefully it will be a tale of two halves, fellas. See ya after the game. Go Niners!

Ness
02-03-2013, 07:07 PM
This team ******* sucks. If they were going to pull this **** I would have rather had Atlanta go.

All week it was Moss talking, Culliver talking, or players being seen at strip clubs. Then you got the Debartolos and Whitner talking dynasty and ****. And they can't even show up for the big game. What a bunch of losers.

farfromforgotten
02-03-2013, 07:09 PM
Come on, Ness. This game ain't over yet. 3 and out to begin the 2nd half. Get a score of our own. Suddenly, it's a 21-13 game. Gotta believe man.

Justone2
02-03-2013, 07:25 PM
Looking at last week all is still possible but it really was a bad half of football from the Niners.

Ness
02-03-2013, 07:51 PM
Come on, Ness. This game ain't over yet. 3 and out to begin the 2nd half. Get a score of our own. Suddenly, it's a 21-13 game. Gotta believe man.

28-6. You were saying?

Ness
02-03-2013, 09:51 PM
Well, at least the 49ers showed up in the third quarter and beyond. Too bad it all crumbled near the redzone, which has been an issue the last two years with our offense of course. That delay of game screws us over and forced us to take a time out.

This franchise is now 5-1 in Super Bowls. Whooo....

Wouldn't be surprised if it takes another 18+ years. When you get here, you need to WIN the game.

dan77733
02-03-2013, 09:59 PM
Well, that was a crappy game.

Harbaugh SHOULDNT have called that timeout. Should have taken the delay of game. Save the timeout and have more room to pass. Dont score and having two timeouts would obviously have given us some time to at least attempt a FG. Agree in regards to Moss and Culliver. Players at strip clubs? Jesus Christ. Well, that explains it. Too damn immature. Oh well, whatever.

farfromforgotten
02-03-2013, 10:05 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if it takes another 18+ years.

I would be. Kaep will only get better. The O-line is still young outside of C. Crabs and Davis are in their primes. I think we should add some defensive pieces in the upcoming draft. Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. I don't see why we shouldn't be contenders for the title for the foreseeable future.

abaddon41_80
02-03-2013, 10:18 PM
I love Kaepernick's arm and legs and he played great for the most part but the way the team has played as a whole the past two games has just been disconcerting to me.

This fall behind three scores and then mount a furious comeback style is not the way to play. It is great to know that your team can do it every once in a while but it is not a good thing to have to do every week. It puts too much pressure on the defense to play lights-out in the second half. Against the Falcons it worked, the defense held them to nothing in the second half. Tonight it didn't. The defense held them to only six points but that return TD was a backbreaker.

The offense needs to work on coming out stronger so they don't have to make epic comebacks. It is much better to jump out to a big lead and coast the rest of the way, even if your stats don't end up looking good, than it is to have to comeback from a big deficit every week and have great stats doing it.

ninerfan
02-03-2013, 10:22 PM
Where to start, in the end I cant believe we didn't win but then again I'm not sure how we got back into it. Horrible loss because we just didn't play the 9ers way & all 3 facets of the game sucked at some point. Cant help but think of the missed opportunity & its still raw but I man we flat out sucked for 2 Qtrs & 11 seconds. Too many mistakes to over come - LMJ fumble, Kaep INT, missed sacks on Flacco, missed tackles on D to stop drives & then that ******* kick off return for TD. Top that off with calls not going our way & a horrible set of 4 downs on the goal line & we didn't deserve to win. Damn disappointing

Ness
02-03-2013, 10:27 PM
I would be. Kaep will only get better. The O-line is still young outside of C. Crabs and Davis are in their primes. I think we should add some defensive pieces in the upcoming draft. Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. I don't see why we shouldn't be contenders for the title for the foreseeable future.

Yeah, but I keeping thinking about other squads that had "runs". The 1990's Bills. The early 2000 Titans. The late 90's Jaguars. They just never got back or never got there in the first place.

The one glimmer of hope is that have a nice front office, staff, whatever. But right now...this feels really bad. I can't even sleep.

J-Mike88
02-03-2013, 10:34 PM
You guys are in the best shape in the NFC going forward.
It's you and then Seattle, Atlanta, Washington, and the Packers. In that order IMO, Giants next as they're an every-other year team.

Which of your studs contracts are up now or next year? That's what stops runs in today's NFL.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
02-03-2013, 10:45 PM
I live in a world where the Giants win Championships and the 49ers suffer heart breaking losses. This is uncharted territory for me.

Silver lining is Kaepernick's play. Stepped up big time in the 2nd half and it was exciting to watch his growth this postseason run.

Now I have to find a HOF patch to cover up the Super Bowl patch on my Kap jersey. I'm happy I have a fridge full of beer right now.

VAfy-ya
02-03-2013, 10:48 PM
I HATE HATE HATE HATE HAAAAAAATEEEEEEE our red-zone offense. Now the pistol is one thing, but we are in shotgun way too much inside the 10 yard line. It reeks of Martz when he was here. The defense has the advantage when they know the pass is coming. We had 3 straight plays in the shotgun to win the game, inside the 10 and I knew it wasn't going to work.It didn't work all night. They should have learned they're lesson from the 2 point conversion. Every big down, they woukd bring the blitz, yet you don't call anything to offset it. No rub routes, no screens....NOT ONE FREAKIN PLAY-ACTION OUT OF A I-FORMATION OR A POWER LOOK! We should have ran 4 straight downs if we had to and made them burn all their timeouts. I'm just disguested with Jimbaugh and Roman right now. We should have brough out our best run designed plays and let the chips fall where they may. I just don't understand it. I don't care about the PI, the route design to offset the blitz wasn't there all night. How do you not know the blitz was coming? How do you not adjust in the red-zone ALL ****** night? Outside of CK's TD run, we couldn't do **** inside the 20. Roman and Jimbaugh are to blame.

As mad as I am, I not as upset as I would have been if we had contiuned to look like we were sleepwalking. I almost turned the game off after the kickoff return. That was actually the worst game we played all year. We got flat out beat by Seattle. But that was the worst we've played all year. I was afraid that maybe the big stage of the SB would get these guys too pumped up and they would play wit emotion instead of being sound and detail-oriented and that's excatly how we looked in the first half. Undiscplined and too emotional. Defense missed more tackles than I EVER recall seeing from this group since Fangio has been here. Blown assignments, guys playing undisciplined, and just flat out letting the moment get to them. I just couldn't believe what I was watching. And it continued into the second half. IMO, the defense lost the game. I know the offesne got behind but they did their part and at least came back to make it close. But the defense couldn't get off the field on 3rd downs, pass-rush was a step late all night, and they played undiscplined all night and missed A TON of tackles. Point blank, outside of maybe 3 drives, they got out-scehmed and out played. Some changes need to be made. You can't just line up, mano el mano, and expect win one-on-one battles every week. It would be nice to see us out-scheme ppl sometimes and bring some extoic looks and packages when offenses have us on our heels and we aren't winning those match-ups. Instead we just sit back looking shocked with no plan B and hope we can stop the bleeding.

Just tough ******* loss man, I'm rambling, ****. **** jus ****** sucks. I said we had to start fast. If we got behind, I didn't think this defense would let us back in the game. Well CK kinda imposed his will, but he also left alot plays on the field in critical situations. But he is the last of my worries...he will be better. The rest of the league needs to worry. We just dug ourselves too deep a hole, against a tough physical D. But our red-zone play-calling, especially inside the 10 tonight just was not up to par. DITCH THE ****** SHOTGUN INSIDE THE 10!!!. I can't say it enough. If its not the pistol, its only limiting the offense. We have too much diversity in our run game, and can play-action off of that, for us to constantly get into these one dimensional spread looks, which we obviously can't execute when the field is compressed. Adjustments should have been made and they weren't. UGHHH.....I need to break something.

49ersfan_87
02-03-2013, 10:51 PM
Well, this game will stick with every single one of us until the day we die. Hope all of you enjoy it.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
02-03-2013, 10:53 PM
Agree with you VAfy-ya on the red zone play calling. Also wasn't happy about them burning a timeout at the end like that. Would have rather taken the 5 yard penalty instead of using a timeout.

49ersfan_87
02-03-2013, 10:54 PM
Culliver should stop focusing on being a homophobe and start playing better football.

Baalke should stop drafting mega busts like Jenkins, and bums like James who fumble in the SB.

We shouldn't have let Costanzo go for a bum like Brandon Jacobs or whoever the hell used his roster spot. THAT COST US A SUPERBOWL.


FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

49ersfan_87
02-03-2013, 10:57 PM
49er QB's threw 0 INT's in 5 SB's

Kaep threw a SB in his first 2 quarters.

Kaep will never have that excellence. hes just a choker. hes better than that pos captain average alex smith but he still choked it up in the SB.

CHOKE CHOKE HCOKE CHOEKL CHOKE

49ersfan_87
02-03-2013, 11:04 PM
we suck 49ers suck suck suck 49ers uck

VAfy-ya
02-03-2013, 11:05 PM
Culliver should stop focusing on being a homophobe and start playing better football.

Baalke should stop drafting mega busts like Jenkins, and bums like James who fumble in the SB.

We shouldn't have let Costanzo go for a bum like Brandon Jacobs or whoever the hell used his roster spot. THAT COST US A SUPERBOWL.


FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Cully is not the problem. CBs allow completions. Cully won his fair share of battles tonight. Its having two ILBs on the field with 4 WRs. Your asking guys on the back-end to do too much. Sometimes they will get exposed. Fangio has to tweak some things. This is what happens when the pass-rush doesn't get there and you give good QBs time. The whole defense didnt show up. I saw Bowman and Willis missing tackles all night. Guys just looked unsettled and not on their usual game. James fumble hurt but let's not go overboard, Ray Rice lost a fumble too. Difference was they scored a TD off theirs, we only scored a FG off ours.

I understand guys are upset but lets still be a little rational. Coaches made mistake also. This was the perfect storm of underacheivement by staff and players at the worst possible ******* time.

Ness
02-03-2013, 11:07 PM
Man. I just wanted Gore and Willis to get a ring. Now that might never happen.

49ersfan_87
02-03-2013, 11:22 PM
Man. I just wanted Gore and Willis to get a ring. Now that might never happen.

"Might" never happen?

Do you see this POS defense getting a SB next year? LOL yeah right

Brent
02-03-2013, 11:29 PM
man, **** this game.

Ness
02-03-2013, 11:35 PM
"Might" never happen?

Do you see this POS defense getting a SB next year? LOL yeah right

No idea. This defense has gotten weaker in the last few weeks. When was the last time we didn't allow 24 plus points against a decent team? I honestly can't remember.

I would go all defense in the draft and free agency though. Really tired of this secondary giving up big gains and dudes not finishing sack chances.

49ersfan_87
02-03-2013, 11:36 PM
No idea. This defense has gotten weaker in the last few weeks. When was the last time we didn't allow 24 plus points against a decent team? I honestly can't remember.

I would go all defense in the draft and free agency though. Really tired of this secondary giving up big gains.

31, 42, 13 (below average against ARIZONA), 31, 24, 34

This defense blows like a hooker

farfromforgotten
02-03-2013, 11:49 PM
Well, this game will stick with every single one of us until the day we die. Hope all of you enjoy it.

What the hell is with you? Did you think that this team would be in the NFC Championship Game and Super Bowl in back to back years the way things were before Harbaugh came to town? No f'ing way.

I'm not sure of everyone's ages here, I know VAfy-ya and Phylsac have probably seen some or all of our previous Super Bowl games, but is this the 1st time for most of you?

Ness
02-04-2013, 12:01 AM
I remember the 1994 Super Bowl even though I was very young.

Anyways, I just hope it doesn't take another 18 years.

And you know things are wrong in 49ers land when VAfy-ya and 49ersfan 87 are losing their heads.

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 12:11 AM
I can't stop thinking about those red-zone calls on the last drive. You roll CK from the shotgun? Then run two routes directly underneath each other, GOING TO THE SAME ******* SIDE of the field? So basically help the Ravens by condensing the throwing window. Those 4 plays will be stuck in my mind until we win #6. We had a chance at history and Jim/Roman blew it....they ****** blew it. That's why I was praying Gore got in on in on his long-run. I just had that feeling we would **** it up in the red-zone. Those next 3 plays after the LMJ run were HORIBBLE! For a offense that claims to be so diverse, we called up 3 shotgun plays that all looked painfully similar and all completly ineffective...Roman and Co. CHOKED. I'm still EXTREMELY pissed if you can't tell....

Ness
02-04-2013, 12:14 AM
Yes. How many times have we seen Frank Gore or someone else make a long ass run or catch to get into the redzone only to have our offense **** their pants at the goalline.

We had that game and Roman/Harbaugh blew it. I'm not even mad about the penalty on Crabtree. San Francisco had four chances. And if you are going to throw to the endzone, throw to the MIDDLE of the endzone. Don't throw these little 5 yard out patterns have no shot at getting in. **** is so stupid it doesn't even work on Madden, let alone reality.

I just wish Gore had more speed.

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 12:16 AM
And you know things are wrong in 49ers land when VAfy-ya and 49ersfan 87 are losing their heads.

Huh? I've been very rationale in my thoughts since the game. Can't say the same for 87 though. I'm not sayin EVERYBODY sucked. Just sayin our offensive minds came up very small when we needed them the most. I think that's a fair assessment of the situation.

Ness
02-04-2013, 12:17 AM
Huh? I've been very rationale in my thoughts since the game. Can't say the same for 87 though. I'm not sayin EVERYBODY sucked. Just sayin our offensive minds came up very small when we needed them the most. I think that's a fair assessment of the situation.

I'm just talking about your emotional inflated post. Didn't say it wasn't fairly assessed. Even when we lose you're not like that. Just an observation.

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 12:17 AM
I can't stop thinking about those red-zone calls on the last drive. You roll CK from the shotgun? Then run two routes directly underneath each other, GOING TO THE SAME ******* SIDE of the field? So basically help the Ravens by condensing the throwing window. Those 4 plays will be stuck in my mind until we win #6. We had a chance at history and Jim/Roman blew it....they ****** blew it. That's why I was praying Gore got in on in on his long-run. I just had that feeling we would **** it up in the red-zone. Those next 3 plays after the LMJ run were HORIBBLE! For a offense that claims to be so diverse, we called up 3 shotgun plays that all looked painfully similar and all completly ineffective...Roman and Co. CHOKED. I'm still EXTREMELY pissed if you can't tell....

i cant take these heartbreaking losses every year. we're geniuses but then we fumble the ball. we're geniuses but then we choke in the redzone.

nothing will take the sting away except for winning 6. thats 12 long months away AT A MINIMUM.

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 12:20 AM
I remember the 1994 Super Bowl even though I was very young.

Anyways, I just hope it doesn't take another 18 years.

And you know things are wrong in 49ers land when VAfy-ya and 49ersfan 87 are losing their heads.

ive been looking forward to this game since January 2012. I knew we would make it back to the SB. I thought we would win too. I just cant handle this again. I cant take being so close and losing out again.

Ill calm down tomorrow but im full of belvedere vodka and steamwhistle beer and a ton of anger.

Ness
02-04-2013, 12:21 AM
Bring back the Walsh WCO. Just kidding.

Anyways, there was always something wrong with this team. They just folded when they were favored all year. The only exception was the game against Atlanta I think. Can't remember if they were favored heading into Seattle.

And the defense is losing it's luster. As the year wore on we just kept giving up way too many points. As usual, the team with the better defense won the game. A good amount of our defensive stars seem to be just living off reputation the last few weeks. I'm not sure if it's because they are always on the field or what, but I wouldn't mind seeing a different approach. Maybe it's time to start rotating dudes instead of having the starters play the majority of snaps every single game.

Ness
02-04-2013, 12:23 AM
ive been looking forward to this game since January 2012. I knew we would make it back to the SB. I thought we would win too. I just cant handle this again. I cant take being so close and losing out again.

Ill calm down tomorrow but im full of belvedere vodka and steamwhistle beer and a ton of anger.

Yes, today there is a 5% feeling in me that doesn't want this team to go back for I don't know how long. I just don't want to lose a game like this again and further shame the franchise.

And then there is a 1% feeling in me where I just won't support the team anymore and take football out of my life and focus on other things.

Ness
02-04-2013, 12:26 AM
The decline in defense may screw this stint over in the long run. Unless they get close to their 2011 form, I don't see us getting another ring with this regime.

stlouisfan37
02-04-2013, 12:42 AM
I know this hurts for you guys right now...I just wanted to say that your team made a strong showing today and you guys should be proud to be 49er fans. I know how bad it sucks to get so close and not win, but don't discount all the great things your team did this year. You have one of the most talented teams in the league, a rising star of a QB, and a lot to build on for the future. I see no reason why the 49ers won't be perennial contenders.

Ness
02-04-2013, 12:43 AM
I know this hurts for you guys right now...I just wanted to say that your team made a strong showing today and you guys should be proud to be 49er fans. I know how bad it sucks to get so close and not win, but don't discount all the great things your team did this year. You have one of the most talented teams in the league, a rising star of a QB, and a lot to build on for the future. I see no reason why the 49ers won't be perennial contenders.

Man shut the **** up.


No I'm kidding. But really, it is what it is. I should have saw the signs coming with the terrible defensive play in the last month and a half.

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 12:44 AM
I'm just talking about your emotional inflated post. Didn't say it wasn't fairly assessed. Even when we lose you're not like that. Just an observation.

Well its the SB Ness, DUH lol

I stated last year, I rather lose in the NFCCG than get to the SB lose....its the one game I can't deal with losing...and never had to up until tonight.

49erNation85
02-04-2013, 12:55 AM
I so agree with you vavfy just a **** ******* way to lose . playing calling and piss poor tackling freaking terrible it was! our number one need is cb!!

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 12:59 AM
The decline in defense may screw this stint over in the long run. Unless they get close to their 2011 form, I don't see us getting another ring with this regime.

The defense can still be stout. Like I said, Fangio has to open his eyes and understand teams now have a blueprint. Everyone is goin to spread us out and test the boundaries and make Bowman and Willis earn their money in coverage.

We don t disguise anything we do. There is no mystery to what we do on defense. When we're on, we're incredible. When we're not, its like watching a train-wreck because we really have no plan B. We NEED a plan B. That or you better get some more horses upfront and some better horses on the back-end to play the way you want. People are already ragging on Cully. He had a tough game but like I said its only ONE Revis in this league. The rest are going to give up their share of throws in man coverage. The problem is we are too predictable on D. Offenses know what were going to do and when were going to do it. Fangio needs a Rex Ryan infusion into his scheme. Running a 3-4 gives you the ability to do a lot of things. You can get creative and confuse teams. We are in that 4-2-5, man under look way too much. We NEED to infuse some of that creativity from the offensive side, onto the defense. Fangio likes to keep it simple. Says it makes for less confusion. Seems to me these last two games, guys have been confused plenty so that excuse won't hold anymore.

Ness
02-04-2013, 01:06 AM
I stated last year, I rather lose in the NFCCG than get to the SB lose....its the one game I can't deal with losing...and never had to up until tonight.

I don't know if I feel the same way. Yes, it's weird going 5-1 in Super Bowls now, but you have to get as far as you can. Last year I remember vividly that when we lost it was very painful. The following two weeks were annoying. The party had moved on to the Super Bowl site, and the 49ers were left in the bay area dust. The only thing that would be worse is NOT showing up at the Super Bowl, which is what the 49ers did for the first half of the game. If that continued I would have rather not gone.

stlouisfan37
02-04-2013, 01:10 AM
Man shut the **** up.


No I'm kidding. But really, it is what it is. I should have saw the signs coming with the terrible defensive play in the last month and a half.

That's exactly the response I was expecting...you'll be fine:-)

binary
02-04-2013, 01:37 AM
Greg Roman just laid a huge fart when it mattered most, dammit. this one hurts.

JordanTaber
02-04-2013, 01:41 AM
The problem is, I think Kaepernick has peaked. There are always going to be those flaws that render him inconsistent.

Plus, the offensive system is lame and the defense is nothing to write home about, either. There's no such thing as a "large window" anymore in the NFL, unless you're New England.

Ness
02-04-2013, 01:52 AM
If we have that 2011 defense we probably win this game. I expect the 49ers to try and build up that defense in the offseason back to being a powerful force.

Ness
02-04-2013, 02:00 AM
Reading the posts on other 49ers forums is funny.

Refs didn't cost us anything. Shut this ridiculous crap down. We don't want to act like Falcons fans here.

f**k that! The refs did cost us the game!!
f**k being civil they f**ked us with no lube!!!!

f**k that murderer! Should be behind bars!

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 02:22 AM
what annoys me is the difference in weaknesses each year.

in 2011 we have an average at best offense but an unreal ST's and defense.

This year we have a good offense but our ST's allows a huge kick return TD AND our defense played like ****.

If you combine the 2011 D and ST's with the 2012 O we win. But the year we get better on offense, we get worse on ST's and D.

Honestly this loss just isnt going away. I get mad every time i think about it. Seeing the confetti stream down New Orleans and 49ers walking off the field as losers has me pissed as ****.

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 02:24 AM
what annoys me is the difference in weaknesses each year.

in 2011 we have an average at best offense but an unreal ST's and defense.

This year we have a good offense but our ST's allows a huge kick return TD AND our defense played like ****.

If you combine the 2011 D and ST's with the 2012 O we win. But the year we get better on offense, we get worse on ST's and D.

Honestly this loss just isnt going away. I get mad every time i think about it. Seeing the confetti stream down New Orleans and 49ers walking off the field as losers has me pissed as ****.

It feels like we squandered away our best chance at a SB. Justin is injured and getting older, Aldon slowed down, our Secondary is trash, and our offensive targets blow.

Ness
02-04-2013, 02:32 AM
LOL awww...

I left the room because I did NOT want to see Ray Lewis his BS fake emotions. He started crying when Alicia Keys was singing the National Anthem. What a fake, over-dramatizing prick. I can't stand him and his stupid inspirational idiocy. He had ABSOLUTELY no impact on the game. He looked old, slow, and totally out of place. He missed several tackles and looked like a 50 year old trying to run after our players. He really had no business being in that game if his name were not Ray Lewis. Screw him, and I will make sure not to watch or listen to national media this week so I don't have to hear about him.

stlouisfan37
02-04-2013, 02:34 AM
The problem is, I think Kaepernick has peaked. There are always going to be those flaws that render him inconsistent.

Plus, the offensive system is lame and the defense is nothing to write home about, either. There's no such thing as a "large window" anymore in the NFL, unless you're New England.

That is the craziest thing I have heard in quite some time. Kaepernick has only scratched the surface of his ability. Did he look confused out there today? Yes, at times, he did. He has played 10 full games and still has a lot to learn. I think his ceiling is as high as any playcaller in the league.

Ness
02-04-2013, 02:37 AM
How can a player peak in their first 10 starts? The defense is mostly why the 49ers lost today's game. Couldn't stop a nose bleed. Kap took control of the game late and led the 49ers up and down the field. The playcalling near the goal line is what screwed everything up. Even on that interception Randy Moss alligator armed it. So much for being the GOAT.

Ness
02-04-2013, 02:45 AM
Harbaugh's extensive answer as to why Gore wasn't used in the final four plays:

"We had other plays called".

Ness
02-04-2013, 03:18 AM
By the way I can't wait to hear from Dan and Borat.

Dis Gon B Gud.

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 03:21 AM
The problem is, I think Kaepernick has peaked. There are always going to be those flaws that render him inconsistent.

Plus, the offensive system is lame and the defense is nothing to write home about, either. There's no such thing as a "large window" anymore in the NFL, unless you're New England.

How the hell can you peak in 10 starts? CK didn't play flawless. He left some alot of yards and plays out there. That being said, he was still impressive. He more than held his own with Flaaco. He's still being molded and sculpted by Jimbaugh. He's by no means, a finishied product. I said when he was drafted he needed 3 years on the bench to be a viable option as starter. He's already ahead of schedule. The WCO takes about that time for most QBs to really know the ins and outs and really understand the nuances of the scheme.

The problem is Roman has gone heavy-handed with the spread looks. Part of that is because its been successful so far and its caught defenses off guard. Part of it is because CK's footwork still needs a ton of work, when dropping from under center. He overstrides alot and too often his feet go dead, staring at his first read. All that can be repped out. Right now, he's more comfortable and they feel more comfortable with him in the shotgun and I understand because it gives him that extra second or two to scan the field and not worry about his feet. But going forward, in order for this team to maximize its potential offensively, he will have to improve his meachanics dropping back from under center and running the more traditional WCO packages. That's the only way this team improves their red-zone passing offense....utilizing more WCO concepts in that area of the field. But with talent like his, there's no way he could possibly have peaked. As he get more game experience and he truly understand what defenses are trying to do to him with certain looks and coverages, its over for the rest of the league. His arm talent and mobility are just too good. He'll come back down to earth slightly next year. But his second full year as a starter(2014), I think he'll put up MVP-like numbers. The more time under center and the more defenses throw at him, the quicker the game will slow down for him. And when that happens, this franchise will reap the benefits. Just him becoming a better game manager and using little things like hard counts and quick counts, anticipating routes better and understanding how to throw guys open against certain leverages DBs are using, will show dramatic improvement in him, as a QB.

Ness
02-04-2013, 03:46 AM
Yes, at least Kaepernick makes the future exciting...and while I'm very ticked off at how our staff handled the Super Bowl, at least they'll be back for another year which will provide more continuity for one more season.

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 08:35 AM
Still walking around kinda in shock....haven't slept a wink. I thought we had it. The way we marched down the field with ease....I thought we had it! 5 ******* yards....how the **** do we screw that up? I'd have rather we continued to get blown out. At least I could swallow it and say we just were not ready for the big stage and we got out-classed. But to comeback so emphatically and have the game in our hands, drive 75 yards down the field in the blink of a eye....smfh. No disrespect to the Ravens, but we let'em off the hook. This is going to be a rough week. Hell, who am I fooling, going to be a rough off-season.

Justone2
02-04-2013, 08:52 AM
2 important missed calls really screwed us in the end with the offsides of Ed Reed on the 2 point play and the PI/Holding on fourth down. However i am happy we showed the ability to come back in the game and it just wasn't our day. The defense really need some more depth at the front 7 so we can get those guys some rest. The biggest difference between last year and this was the fact dat Haralson is one of the most underrated players and at the same time he kept Aldon fresh to just do what he can do best. Get some different types of players and just use them to their strengths. Thats i think the biggest problem with our defense. Getting pressure on the QB is the most important thing and with just 4 guys rushing every play you have to have those 4 fresh. At the same time i think we should be more willing to take out Willis or Bowman more and go with 4 corners to cover the other teams 4 receivers.

49erNation85
02-04-2013, 10:59 AM
Where is Dan at? I'm waiting also on what his excuse will be. Will be funny .

phlysac
02-04-2013, 11:01 AM
VAfy-ya has it pretty well summed up.

The 4-2-5 defense when the offense spreads the team out is less effective without a dominant rush. Be creative to get more DBs on the field. Maybe only use one DT in a Dime using Pat or Bo as an extra rusher.

Also, the D needs a more effective rotation. They're still a great front-7 but not as dominant as when fresh.


The last 4 offensive plays will stick with me, as well.

abaddon41_80
02-04-2013, 11:11 AM
Being as objective as possible, if that was a PI on the Ravens on the 4th down play then there was a PI on the 49ers on the Falcons 4th down play in the NFCCG

Justone2
02-04-2013, 11:12 AM
Well there where multiple PI on both sides that weren't called.

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 11:27 AM
Being as objective as possible, if that was a PI on the Ravens on the 4th down play then there was a PI on the 49ers on the Falcons 4th down play in the NFCCG

Actually no. Bowman's was inside 5 yards, which is within the rules. The play last night was about 2-3 yards beyond 5 yards. But I'm tired of fans bitching about the PI. It should have never come down to that. Those were horrible play-calls. We ran only one time and didn't force the Ravens to use any timeouts. Again, your easier to defend when you declare what the hell your doing. Shotgun at the 5 yard line 3 consecutive plays? That's bad coaching. John had little brother's number all night. I don't understand how you get down the field being creative then get to the most critical part of the field and just go totally brain dead. UN ******* REAL!

abaddon41_80
02-04-2013, 12:19 PM
Actually no. Bowman's was inside 5 yards, which is within the rules. The play last night was about 2-3 yards beyond 5 yards. But I'm tired of fans bitching about the PI. It should have never come down to that. Those were horrible play-calls. We ran only one time and didn't force the Ravens to use any timeouts. Again, your easier to defend when you declare what the hell your doing. Shotgun at the 5 yard line 3 consecutive plays? That's bad coaching. John had little brother's number all night. I don't understand how you get down the field being creative then get to the most critical part of the field and just go totally brain dead. UN ******* REAL!

It was at most seven yards past the LoS last night, it looked closer to six, and Crabtree was pushing off of Smith just as much as Smith was pushing Crabtree. Bowman was blatantly holding the Falcons receiver who was not putting his hands anywhere on Bowman. If you could only call one of them a PI it has to be on Bowman and not Smith.

The non-call PI that I had the biggest problem with was on the long ball that was just off of Crabtree's fingertips. The defender grabbed Crabtree twice on the play.

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 01:58 PM
this loss still ******* stings.

its going to be a long offseason and im not even as excited as i thought id be. picking 31st in the draft is just a reminder that we're 2nd best in the league, and NOT SB champions. :facepalm:

49erNation85
02-04-2013, 01:58 PM
I still can't understand why we didn't the run the damn in the last min to score. It would of been better then a fade pass or at least a up and in kind of rout. Heck why not even try a QB draw play or HB draw. Something else had to worked out better. What I also don't is they damn clock run all lot in that last 2 mins which dumb too.

We just have a lot of holes to fix on our defense before it gets back to 2011 style and our offense needs to get back to basis and start back with west coast offense . Remove the damn pistol!Yes remove it. Start now so you don't have to change it later down the road. It won't keep in a few plays but don't use and our main formation sets. When we ran last night it worked great. So I don't understand to bail out on the ran and 3 straight pass plays at the end. I mean we had their d line pushed back and wiped out.

Jim's excuse is freaking lame "we had plays called" already or what ever he said is just dumb.

dan77733
02-04-2013, 02:29 PM
I stated last year, I rather lose in the NFCCG than get to the SB lose....its the one game I can't deal with losing...and never had to up until tonight.

This.

I'm still pissed too. My GF came over today before going to work, got laid and im still not happy which is definitely saying something. The loss sucks. Didnt think they were going to lose. Really thought that last night was the start of a new 49ers Dynasty but I was way off.

Defense has become worse than our offense. Justin Smith wasnt anywhere near 100% and Aldon Smith was non-existent. The secondary was bad as they got their asses kicked. Only forced fumble by Brown was good. Other than that, all bad. Granted, they held BAL to only 6 points but thats not good when you have BAL in 3rd and long and cant get the hell off the field. Not having any good depth on the DL and not having another pass rusher really hurt us.

Offensively, the play calling at the end sucked. The main thing that hurt us though was the James fumble and worse, three 49ers were just standing there and didnt even go for the fumble recovery. That started a chain reaction. Kaep's INT was just him forcing it like Smith against the Giants. Other than that, Kaep had a good game and impressed me in the second half with his ability to bring the team back. Shame the defense couldnt get stops on third downs.

We do need another receiver opposite Crabtree. I honestly still want Wallace and dont care if he costs $10m a year. A huge redzone target would be good via the draft but at the same time, we have Davis and he's rarely used so I dont even think that would make much if any difference unless its a Calvin Johnson type and dont see that happening.

Defensively, I want Rogers gone. Too much money, too old and too slow. Couldnt even keep up with bOldin. I still live Culliver and think that he's going to be a damn good corner but leaving him out to dry on that pass to Jones was just a bad defensive play call. We need more depth on the DL including Justin's replacement. Also, another pass rusher. Would like to see Jean Francois start at NT since Sopoaga is an UFA and I wouldnt bring him back. Would also like a huge center, 6'5, 300+ pounds like the rest of the OL because Goodwin is definitely the weak link.

Other than that, Roman and Harbaugh need to do a better job at managing the clock and with play calling. They never should have taken that second time out. Should have taken the delay of game penalty especially since they were going to pass anyway. Having 10 yards instead of 5 makes a huge difference.

Oh well, maybe I'll win the Super Bowl in Madden NFL 13 but after starting 2-0, im 2-2 so I dont see that happening either. Just a crappy day yesterday.

And more than anything, team needs to become more mature than what they showed last night. Team is definitely better than how they played last night but they need to ******* prove it in every game period.

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 03:24 PM
It was at most seven yards past the LoS last night, it looked closer to six, and Crabtree was pushing off of Smith just as much as Smith was pushing Crabtree. Bowman was blatantly holding the Falcons receiver who was not putting his hands anywhere on Bowman. If you could only call one of them a PI it has to be on Bowman and not Smith.

The non-call PI that I had the biggest problem with was on the long ball that was just off of Crabtree's fingertips. The defender grabbed Crabtree twice on the play.

Bowman didn't blantanly hold anyone. Watch the play again, White comes and makes contact with Bowman, Bowman holds his ground and pushes him off his mark and disrupts the route. They dissected the play on NFL Turning Point. Bowman knew where White was going, he just beat him there. And like I said, anything goes within 5 yards. It was clearly within the 5 yard boundary so ALL contact is legal, even holding if that were the case. Ryan should have went to Gonzales, he seemed to have Brown beat on a slant route and Goldson looked a step late. But he saw White on a Bowman and went with the better match-up. But Bowman recognized the formation.

JordanTaber
02-04-2013, 03:26 PM
How the hell can you peak in 10 starts? CK didn't play flawless.


By playing as well over those 10 starts as you're capable of. There's no growth potential for him given his talent level. He has a hitch in his throwing motion and a tendency to run that will limit him.


He left some alot of yards and plays out there. That being said, he was still impressive. He more than held his own with Flaaco. He's still being molded and sculpted by Jimbaugh. He's by no means, a finishied product. I said when he was drafted he needed 3 years on the bench to be a viable option as starter. He's already ahead of schedule. The WCO takes about that time for most QBs to really know the ins and outs and really understand the nuances of the scheme.

The 49ers aren't running the ******* WCO. Jesus. Get with the program.


The problem is Roman has gone heavy-handed with the spread looks. Part of that is because its been successful so far and its caught defenses off guard. Part of it is because CK's footwork still needs a ton of work, when dropping from under center. He overstrides alot and too often his feet go dead, staring at his first read. All that can be repped out.

No it can't. No QB has ever changed his mechanics and been successful. You live with the quirks, and that's going to be the problem with him.

The only improvement with him is we may see fewer delay of game penalties in the future. But other than that, he's already playing the way he would if he had 7 years experience.

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 03:49 PM
I will say this: while it sucks going 5-1 in the SB, every big time franchise thats made it to the SB multiple times has lost a SB at least once.

Packers, Patriots, Steelers, Cowboys, Raiders, Redskins, Giants, Dolphins- all 8 teams have won superbowls at least 3 times, and all at least lost it once. Now the 49ers join this group. The price you pay to make multiple SB's is you're bound to lose one eventually. Couldn't keep 5-0 forever.

Besides these 9 teams, every other team is either .500 (1-1 like the Bears and Chiefs, 2-2 like the Colts), or below .500 (Broncos 2-4, Rams 1-2), or just plain winless (10 teams have made it to a SB at least once and have yet to win, while another 4 haven't made it at all).

Only undefeated teams in the SB now are Jets (won theirs over 40 years ago), Bucs, and Saints. All teams are 1-0. And of course the Ravens....the only team now to make multiple SB's and win, at a 2-0 SB record.

So while it sucks, we'll be back there with Harbaugh again. Just like John had to suffer playoff defeat after defeat (from 08-11), Jim will have to take his licks until he wins it one day. And he will. But that could be next year or 4 years away.

Screw Moss, i feel terrible for Justin and Gore. Wanted them to get a ring so bad.

Madirishman
02-04-2013, 04:10 PM
This is still stinging badly....feels like a bad dream; a horrible, piece of $hit nightmare actually. I'm still stunned that they didn't bring it all the way back. With so many mistakes and bad calls, they came entirely too close to winning this thing to not feel at least a little jobbed and befuddled on how they let it slip through their hands.

The Niners were NOT over-matched in this game; they just let is slide too far out of control before taking the reigns. Nobody could seemingly stop them (again) once they got the momentum. They played this dangerous come-from-behind game and it finally bit them in the ass. If they came to play in the first half and had literally anything go their way, this game would have been a runaway in the second half. Just down right ****ing disappointing to end a perfect Super Bowl record and a long-awaited opportunity to win #6 when I felt like they had earned it; that they were truly the better team; they wanted it more; that they could win in so many different ways.

There is a great silver lining with the team but I'm just not feeling it right now. I'll be happier about that when next season starts. Until then, this just ****ing sucks. Ray Lewis didn't earn ****.

Draft/FA needs:
NT that gets a push up the middle and is a space/double-team eater
Cover Corner (or two)
WR (Bigger, Red Zone Threat)
3rd OLB/Pass Rushing Specialist
O-Line Depth (Preferably at Tackle)

VAfy-ya
02-04-2013, 04:18 PM
Please ppl, no one is as mad as me but stop saying the defense is worthless and this player and that player needs to be replaced. That's typical knee-jerk reactions. The players aren't the problem. I repeat, THE PLAYERS AREN'T THE PROBLEM. To play the way Fangio wants, we need at least four rotational pass-rushers so guys can stay fresh. Without a consistent pass-rush, we can't survive running those man under looks Fangio loves so much. I thought Haralson might be a cap casualty but looking at the pass-rushers in FA, it would probably be best to keep him for around 3 mil. Fleming and Cam Johnson will get to prove themselves as second year players. So that's a start. But we have to tweak the scheme. Its paramount. Fangio and Jimbaugh need to see the trends and make changes to how they defend certain formations and personnel. You leave little margin for error they way they are currently calling the defensive plays. We defintely need a disruptive force at DT in the draft. Even before his injury, Cowboy looked to be slowing down. Now that his age is creeping up, it'd be nice to limit his snaps going forward and find a young guy in the draft who is more physically imposing and who can apprentice under him for a season or two. We get Haralson back and maybe a young guy to step up on the outside. And get a nice disruptive DT to rotate in with Cowboy and Ray Mac and the back four will look like they did back in 2011.

I like a lot of our young players on that side of the ball and their potential. Trenton Robinson, Michael Thomas, Jerod-Eddie. Even a kid like Stupar who we just picked up and looks to be a STs guy while also moon-lighting at FB. Another solid draft and I feel will be in a good place. The offense is trending upward with CK so I'm not too concerned with that side of the ball. It'll be interesting what they do with Walker and if they indeed bring him back. Only the pessimist in me says we been back-to-back with two deep playoffs runs. And the NFC is getting tougher and tougher. Seattle is a serious threat. The Falcons and Packers will looked to improve their defenses and be more formidable. I'm certain the G-Men will bounce back. It will be extremely hard to make the NFCCG three years in a row. Yesterday was our shot and I think we blew it. Not that we won't get another one with Jimbaugh but I don't think it will be next year. Its going to be tough moving forward, as key players come up for free agency and tough decisions have to be made. We can't realistically keep a team of Pro Bowlers. That why yesterday stings so much. This team has too much talent to come out the gate like they did. They didn't seize the opportunity. A opportunity that may be harder and harder to achieve, as the talent on this team gets harder and harder to keep intact.

Ness
02-04-2013, 04:47 PM
I like a lot of our young players on that side of the ball and their potential. Trenton Robinson, Michael Thomas, Jerod-Eddie. Even a kid like Stupar who we just picked up and looks to be a STs guy while also moon-lighting at FB. Another solid draft and I feel will be in a good place. The offense is trending upward with CK so I'm not too concerned with that side of the ball. It'll be interesting what they do with Walker and if they indeed bring him back. Only the pessimist in me says we been back-to-back with two deep playoffs runs. And the NFC is getting tougher and tougher. Seattle is a serious threat. The Falcons and Packers will looked to improve their defenses and be more formidable. I'm certain the G-Men will bounce back. It will be extremely hard to make the NFCCG three years in a row. Yesterday was our shot and I think we blew it. Not that we won't get another one with Jimbaugh but I don't think it will be next year. Its going to be tough moving forward, as key players come up for free agency and tough decisions have to be made. We can't realistically keep a team of Pro Bowlers. That why yesterday stings so much. This team has too much talent to come out the gate like they did. They didn't seize the opportunity. A opportunity that may be harder and harder to achieve, as the talent on this team gets harder and harder to keep intact.

Yes, it's going to be very hard to keep the defense together. I've been impressed with Baltimore over the last few seasons being able to keep together a good defense with a decent offense. Not surprising they finally got a ring. Seattle is going to be a huge problem. Not sure how that will play out moving forward. One of the main reasons I wanted to win now. Everyone will now be a year older with the team too. Kaepernick looks like the franchise quarterback for the future. He wasn't the reason we lost the game last night so that's good. Frank Gore will probably never get a ring though, so that's painful. At least he played in the big dance. I said before that if at least these guys had an opportunity to win a Super Bowl, that would be great. Now we'll have to see if they can get back there. It's going to be real tough.

Madirishman
02-04-2013, 06:18 PM
It's hard to go to the Super Bowl and win it. It really is. BUT, I do NOT believe the Niners window for a ring is closed with this regime; it's really just beginning.

Harbaugh has had the team overachieve in both his first 2 seasons. The owners and FO (managing salary cap well) and coaching staff (finally not getting out-schemed on a week to week basis) are finally on the same page and working together, creating stability. They finally look to have a game-changing Franchise QB at the helm who is just getting his feet wet at the position and has immense upside. The team has a majority of it's key players already under long term contracts and has depth at many positions, with the most amount of draft picks currently in April's Draft to add more depth as needed.

I know Gore and Justin Smith don't have a lot of time left and if there were ever two guys who deserved a ring, it's them. I hope the Niners keep this window open as there is significant evidence to show that they are easily one of the favorites to make a deep run in the playoffs again next year.

The loss yesterday sucked bu the sky is not falling gentlemen. Continue to be among the 49er faithful.

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 06:35 PM
The window for a SB contender is larger when you have a top QB. And Kaep is dynamic and only 25. We also have a top HC. So with a top QB and HC, we have a large window.

That being said, the NFC is tough. Falcons, Packers, Saints, Seahawks, and Giants are all tough contenders. Thats not counting any potential surprise teams which could rise up and take our spot in the playoffs.

I like our matchup against anyone in the AFC EXCEPT the Ravens and a healthy Steelers squad. We matchup well with a lot of these NFC teams too but in a 1 and done playoff scenario, we can easily lose to any of them. We always make terrible mistakes in the playoffs- fumbles (williams, james), terrible redzone play in the SB, etc.

I do think we'll win a SB with Harbaugh and Kaep, potentially multiple, but i don't know if it will be next year. Maybe

The window for our offense is opening, defense is closing. We're getting old there and we need a youth infusion at DL and another pass rusher at OLB.

phlysac
02-04-2013, 06:41 PM
The window for a SB contender is larger when you have a top QB.

The only other 2nd year QB to lose a Super Bowl... Dan Marino.

Never made it back.


Nothing should be assumed.

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 06:44 PM
The only other 2nd year QB to lose a Super Bowl... Dan Marino.

Never made it back.


Nothing should be assumed.

obviously, im just saying with good QB play you'll have a better chance than not.

of course there's a real risk we never make it back too. i think we will one day but its no guarantee.

ViperVisor
02-04-2013, 07:27 PM
I stay calm and collected for the most part.

But my hope was cracked when the same thing I saw in the regular season and vs GB happened again.

When we were backed up and on 2nd down I think.

The force to Moss on a comeback to his left. Was one of those plays where he never thought about his option to the right. Gore was wide open with the defended 10 yards off him.


The 2nd play on Goal to Go. Crabtree turn and the throw should of been winding up then. The lane looked clear. He wouldn't of scored I don't think but would of been 3rd and Goal at the 2.
Next play to Crab was covered and I think Delanie "hands" Walker was open as the D focused on Crabs. Crazy how he caught everything in this game.

And the softer alley-oop pass was something that was never in tune and was at a place where Crabby would of had to of made a great catch even if he wasn't held.

The 1st shot in the endzone early to Crabtree was a high fastball when it wasn't called for.


Missing the easy stuff a little too much was brushed away cause we won and looked cool doing it.
But we were almost never consistent.

Ness
02-04-2013, 07:48 PM
The only other 2nd year QB to lose a Super Bowl... Dan Marino.

Never made it back.


Nothing should be assumed.

This is true. Sad, but true. At the same time there are quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame that never even made it.

49ersfan_87
02-04-2013, 09:20 PM
It just sucks so, so much that we've made 2 straight NFCCG's and 1 Super Bowl and have 0 rings to show for it.

We could win the next 2 superbowls, lose the next 2, or never make it.

I really, really don't want to become the next 2000 Eagles. Great team, 4 straight NFCCG's, class of the NFC, but no rings to show for it. Reid gets shoved out the door after a decade of success and they're back to square 1.

Ness
02-04-2013, 11:11 PM
It just sucks so, so much that we've made 2 straight NFCCG's and 1 Super Bowl and have 0 rings to show for it.

We could win the next 2 superbowls, lose the next 2, or never make it.

I really, really don't want to become the next 2000 Eagles. Great team, 4 straight NFCCG's, class of the NFC, but no rings to show for it. Reid gets shoved out the door after a decade of success and they're back to square 1.
I was thinking about this earlier. Same thing with 1990's Bills. Obviously none of us wants that, but the reality is that that hasn't happened yet and this team has an opportunity go get back to the Super Bowl in the next few years.

Shupp
02-05-2013, 12:13 AM
HOLDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man I am one bitter dude! I may never speak to my friend who's a Raven's fan, I can't be reminded of that last series.

Shupp
02-05-2013, 12:26 AM
This.

I'm still pissed too. My GF came over today before going to work, got laid and im still not happy which is definitely saying something. The loss sucks. Didnt think they were going to lose. Really thought that last night was the start of a new 49ers Dynasty but I was way off.

Defense has become worse than our offense. Justin Smith wasnt anywhere near 100% and Aldon Smith was non-existent. The secondary was bad as they got their asses kicked. Only forced fumble by Brown was good. Other than that, all bad. Granted, they held BAL to only 6 points but thats not good when you have BAL in 3rd and long and cant get the hell off the field. Not having any good depth on the DL and not having another pass rusher really hurt us.

Offensively, the play calling at the end sucked. The main thing that hurt us though was the James fumble and worse, three 49ers were just standing there and didnt even go for the fumble recovery. That started a chain reaction. Kaep's INT was just him forcing it like Smith against the Giants. Other than that, Kaep had a good game and impressed me in the second half with his ability to bring the team back. Shame the defense couldnt get stops on third downs.

We do need another receiver opposite Crabtree. I honestly still want Wallace and dont care if he costs $10m a year. A huge redzone target would be good via the draft but at the same time, we have Davis and he's rarely used so I dont even think that would make much if any difference unless its a Calvin Johnson type and dont see that happening.

Defensively, I want Rogers gone. Too much money, too old and too slow. Couldnt even keep up with bOldin. I still live Culliver and think that he's going to be a damn good corner but leaving him out to dry on that pass to Jones was just a bad defensive play call. We need more depth on the DL including Justin's replacement. Also, another pass rusher. Would like to see Jean Francois start at NT since Sopoaga is an UFA and I wouldnt bring him back. Would also like a huge center, 6'5, 300+ pounds like the rest of the OL because Goodwin is definitely the weak link.

Other than that, Roman and Harbaugh need to do a better job at managing the clock and with play calling. They never should have taken that second time out. Should have taken the delay of game penalty especially since they were going to pass anyway. Having 10 yards instead of 5 makes a huge difference.

Oh well, maybe I'll win the Super Bowl in Madden NFL 13 but after starting 2-0, im 2-2 so I dont see that happening either. Just a crappy day yesterday.

And more than anything, team needs to become more mature than what they showed last night. Team is definitely better than how they played last night but they need to ******* prove it in every game period.


Rodgers has one good year left at least, I would keep him around and add another corner through draft or FA to promote competition and depth.

Centers are so hard to come by that we may be stuck with Goodwin one more year.

Agree that Sopoaga should be let go unless we can get him very cheap.

I would really like to get Dwayne Bowe, I know he's not the vertical threat that Mike Wallace is but having Bowe and Crabtree would be a dream.

dan77733
02-05-2013, 12:48 AM
I dont know how the Dolphins team was around Marino but the team around Kaepernick is still pretty damn good. The main reason we lost is what I have said throughout the season, they think that if they just show up, they'll win. I have said it a bunch of times. You cant expect a damn thing. You want to win??? If so, you have to go out and TAKE the win, as opposed to expecting it to be handed to you. Also, team needs to grow the **** up quick. They're way too immature. Especially on defense. Ravens wanted to win and they took the win. We let them. Plain and simple.

Team hasnt had that aggressive killer instinct in a long time and still dont have it. I was watching PFT last Friday and one of the guys on the show picked the 89 49ers as the best Super Bowl team because they went 14-2, lost both games by a combined 8 points or something like that but in the playoffs including the 55-10 demolishment of the Broncos in the Super Bowl, they won all three playoff games by 27 points or more. Thats a dominant team with a killer instinct that instead of taking their foot of their opponent's throat, they push all the way down until its crushed.

As much as I love Harbaugh and him wanting to win so badly, he needs to stop acting like a sore loser and a crybaby on the sideline. Instead of complaining about the non-call at the end, he should have set his team up to go after the punter and try to get him, hold him up and strip the ball before taking him down (or in our case, knocking him out of bounds). Harbaugh worries too much about bad calls or whatever instead of just focusing on the next play and making the most of that next play.

With all that said, it still sucks as I never expected them to lose and in fact, to win by double digits but the defense decided not to show up and since Justin got hurt, our defense has sucked. Given up over 100 more yards passing and almost double the points (under 30ppg to under 16ppg). The defensive play calling was average at best but our defense didnt get the turnovers, stops and big plays that it got in 2011. Quite honestly, the way the defense played and that the offense looked dead after James fumble, I can honestly that the team didnt deserve to win because they didnt go out there with any passion or anything. Bowman made a stop and showed 6 fingers suggesting number six but instead of showing off on a stupid play, win the damn game first, then you can show off and gloat. 49ers were easily the better team on paper but in the actual game, nope. Say whatever you want about Ray Lewis but the one quality he has that we dont have is that he alone can motivate everyone else to play at a higher level than they're used to playing or even capable of playing. Willis needs to become that but quite honestly, I dont think he or anyone on the team ever will.

As for the off-season, we're in great shape. Not only will we have a good amount of cap room, but we're young on both sides of the ball. With the exception of DE Justin Smith, CB Carlos Rogers, C Jonathan Goodwin, K David Akers, P Andy Lee, RB Frank Gore and LS Brian Jennings, everyone will be 29 or younger when the 2013 season starts. Thats still pretty damn good considering a decent amount of players have been playing since 2006.

Also, we'll be getting back Manningham, Hunter, Williams, Dobbs and Fleming. Not having the first three hurt because was a waste. Only positive I give him is that he developed Crabtree, Kap and others. But like T.O., Moss' time is done.

FA wise, the only player I truly want is the same as last year, WR Mike Wallace. With the emergence of Crabtree and the awesome Vernon Davis, we need a deep threat. No one is better than Wallace. With Kaepernick's arm strength and accuracy, he would easily fit and could be the starter opposite Crabtree. Manningham and Williams are both under contract for one more season and I wouldnt extend either until I see how they've healed and how they bounce back. Add in the draft and neither one is a guarantee to make the roster in 2013.

Draft wise, im hoping for a dominant 3-4 DE to replace Justin Smith (who's also an UFA in a year from now), a pass rushing OLB and a cover corner with our first three draft picks. After that, backup at right and left tackle plus a backup at RG to replace Leonard Davis. Also, a bigger nasty starting center ala Jeremy Newberry to replace Goodwin who's the weakest part of our OL. Every OL is at least 6'5, 300+. Talk about monsters on the OL. Just need the center to become one.

As for who I would go, QB Alex Smith ($8.5m for 2013, $16m over the next two years), C Jonathan Goodwin ($3.7m for 2013), and CB Carlos Rogers ($5.5m for 2013, $19m from 2013-2015) are the main guys. Overall, for those three players alone, we would save $17.7m in cap room for 2013 alone. Add in whatever cap room we have now that would carried over into 2013 and the cap room that we'll have from letting several UFA's leave such as Moss, possibly Ginn, Leonard Davis, possibly Sopoaga/Grant/Gooden and we'll easily have over $20m in cap room for 2013. For 2014, we'll already have that $21m in cap room if we release Rogers and Smith this month which im hoping they do.

Tarell Brown is good and even though he had a bad game yesterday and bad week, I still like Culliver to eventually be a starter sooner rather than later. Granted, adding a shutdown CB would be awesome but there's none that are going to be available and the one one that might be via trade (Revis) isnt worth the first rounder and huge contract which quite honestly would defeat the purpose of letting other veterans go in order to clear cap space. For a one year rental of Revis, I honestly would have given up our first rounder especially since its 31 but since he's coming off that major injury, I dont think that he's worth the risk.

Either way, we're still in excellent shape and unrealistic shape when you compare us to the Ravens who are already $5m over the cap, will have to tag Flacco at $14m plus have UFA's like Reed, Kruger and Ellerbe. Plus, a few veterans like Boldin could be cap cuts. So, when you think about it, losing the Super Bowl definitely sucked but at least we have a lot of young talent, a true franchise QB in Kap and plenty of cap room and draft picks to get even better.

This team just needs better play calling at time, more maturity and leadership, and that killer instinct. Hopefully, in 2013 we'll have that.

dan77733
02-05-2013, 12:58 AM
Rodgers has one good year left at least, I would keep him around and add another corner through draft or FA to promote competition and depth.

Centers are so hard to come by that we may be stuck with Goodwin one more year.

Agree that Sopoaga should be let go unless we can get him very cheap.

I would really like to get Dwayne Bowe, I know he's not the vertical threat that Mike Wallace is but having Bowe and Crabtree would be a dream.

I think Rogers is done. He had a bad season, didnt get the interceptions that he had last year (but in fairness, our defense as a whole didnt), got beat badly a lot this year including by bOLDin last night and quite honestly, he's not worth the $5.5m in salary for 2013. We have Brown and Culliver who I would start next season. He played bad but I like Culliver because he's physical which is exactly what we need at CB. Cox and Brock can return for depth while adding one or two more corners in the draft.

True but if there's a center available at 31 who fits the offense and is big and nasty like the rest of our OL, he would be gone. Plus, I want a young center to pair up with Kaepernick so he doesnt have to switch centers every few years. Want him to have the chemistry that a Manning/Saturday had in Indy.

Sopoaga is going to be 32 or so I think when the season starts plus we play more without him then we do with him. I mainly see a 2-4-5 formation majority of the time so to me, he can be let go. Plus, I want to see Jean Francois play NT and see how he does.

Wouldnt be opposed to Bowe but I think that he'll want more money than Wallace. Bowe is two years older and while he provides that red zone threat, I want more of a speed guy on the outside especially since unlike Smith, we actually have a QB who throw deep down the field with accuracy. Need a speed guy who's a playmaker and can take advantage of that.

Ness
02-05-2013, 02:55 AM
I hope Borat didn't kill himself after the game.

farfromforgotten
02-05-2013, 05:25 AM
It's hard to go to the Super Bowl and win it. It really is. BUT, I do NOT believe the Niners window for a ring is closed with this regime; it's really just beginning.

The loss yesterday sucked bu the sky is not falling gentlemen. Continue to be among the 49er faithful.

This is where I am at as well. Well said, Mim.

Ness
02-05-2013, 07:05 AM
Just in case you wanted to see how we crumbled when it mattered most again.

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Ness
02-05-2013, 07:05 AM
Oh and here is the delay of game play on 3rd down that looked like it would have worked if Kap SNAPPED THE BALL ON TIME.

http://i.minus.com/iqkQvaHt7barl.gif

VAfy-ya
02-05-2013, 08:27 AM
Like I said, your three best designed run plays first three downs. Play it by ear if you get to fourth down. You don't call timeout there. If they back us up, fine....more space gives you a better route design so you have more options as a play-caller. But you put the onus on the official to throw the flag, which I don't know if they do because CK snapped it right at zero. But shotgun passes, inside the 10 yard line, three straight plays is unforgivable. Especially after seeing such a well-designed TD run by Gore fooled them so easily just minutes earlier from about the same distance.

And CK should have went to VD on 4th down. Lobbed it up right in the middle of the endzone and let VD out-jump the LB. He made his mind up he was going to Crabs and you can't do that, not in that situation. I know Ellerbe was right on him but a little pump fake could have froze him and got him enough time for a quick flick of the wrist. Young QB mistake...it is what it is,

Madirishman
02-05-2013, 06:07 PM
Just in case you wanted to see how we crumbled when it mattered most again.

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AHHHHHHHHH! The ****ing torture! Make it stop Ness. Dammit!

Madirishman
02-05-2013, 06:13 PM
The only other 2nd year QB to lose a Super Bowl... Dan Marino.

Never made it back.


Nothing should be assumed.

Yes, but that's more of a coincidence than a trend. I also think that this 49ers team and staff >>> those Dolphins teams of the early 80's.

Nothing is assumed but I do like their chances to be back in the mix of the Final 4 again next year, with more experience and talent to hopefully finish the job with #6.

phlysac
02-05-2013, 08:22 PM
It was just a point to never assume SB appearances

phlysac
02-05-2013, 08:23 PM
http://i.minus.com/ii00Yb1qbfhO7.gif


This is the one that bothers me most. You can't find a more textbook case of helmet-to-helmet on a defenseless receiver.

Ness
02-05-2013, 08:27 PM
Yeah I can't believe Kaepernick missed Walker. If I'm going to go down fighting, and passing, I'm going to throw it towards the middle of the endzone. I'm not gonna try to do one of these little sneak in the corner pass plays. That never works.


Apparently Kapernick audibled on the 4th down when he realized it was an all out cover zero blitz. I would have just used the last time out instead of relaying on a fade to the endzone that hasn't shown any semblance of success this season with Crabtree. Maybe it worked in practice. Whatever.

abaddon41_80
02-05-2013, 09:12 PM
What the hell is Walker doing on that third down play? Does he really think Crabtree is going to score?

phlysac
02-06-2013, 04:10 PM
What the hell is Walker doing on that third down play? Does he really think Crabtree is going to score?

Pretty sure he's raising his hands in frustration/surprise because of how open he was for the Super Bowl winning touchdown.

farfromforgotten
02-06-2013, 04:41 PM
Pretty sure he's raising his hands in frustration/surprise because of how open he was for the Super Bowl winning touchdown.

Would have been great if he would have been targeted/caught that for many reasons... then, there is this...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/guests-49ers-delanie-walker-killed-louisiana-car-wreck-185205441--nfl.html

JordanTaber
02-06-2013, 05:10 PM
Harbaugh has had the team overachieve in both his first 2 seasons.

Huh? What do you mean they overachieved?

The reason both Nolan and Singletary were fired is this team underachieved for years. This team has a linebacker corps that rivals the Dome Patrol. It has a top 10 WR and a top 5 TE in Crabtree and Vernon Davis. It has all those high draft picks on the offensive line, who are now starting to play to their potential.

This staff has gotten this team to achieve. Nothing more, nothing less. There's tons of talent here. The problem is, that probably won't last.

Madirishman
02-07-2013, 11:29 PM
This year the expectations were higher because of how the team played last season. Not many at all thought the Niners in Harbaugh's first year last year would go be playing the NFC Championship and would lose barely in OT. Many HOPED they would win the division but if Harbaugh had the team at .500 his first year, he would have got a pass and the playoffs would be the goal for this year. Due to them overachieving last year, expectations were raised this year and many thought they would win the division and possibly have a shot at the Super Bowl. They were FAVORED in the big game and if they had played 4 good quarters of football, they would have easily won (and possibly dominated) the Super Bowl. Even optimists that thought they'd go far this year would still admit that the circumstance that played out could be seen as overachieving. Hell, they even had the most Pro Bowlers in the NFL. They did everything but bring home #6, which they easily could (and should) have.

binary
02-08-2013, 02:40 AM
I'm having trouble with this loss, gotdamn it hurt. I'm also worried Seattle is gonna whoop our arse from here on out, it feels like the window might be closing. This D needs to get faster and rejuvenated asap....I mean this year we basically had every key player healthy and ready to go, that's likely not gonna happen again. Heck, the last TWO years we've been pretty healthy. This one was ours.

49ersfan_87
02-08-2013, 03:24 AM
I'm having trouble with this loss, gotdamn it hurt. I'm also worried Seattle is gonna whoop our arse from here on out, it feels like the window might be closing. This D needs to get faster and rejuvenated asap....I mean this year we basically had every key player healthy and ready to go, that's likely not gonna happen again. Heck, the last TWO years we've been pretty healthy. This one was ours.

We've actually been healthy for much longer than that. For example i think we've had defensive starters miss like 15 games due to injury in the last 5 years. At this point i think its a product of a good strength and conditioning staff, and of course a little bit of luck as a lot of things in this game can be.

Seattle will contend, no doubt, but so will we. Both teams will be really good. If we faced them in the playoffs the deciding factor could be who's at home.

We'll be back next season, we'll contend for it again, and if we face anyone in the AFC besides the Ravens or a healthy Steelers we can hoist #6. But we have to get through a tough NFC. I'm predicting a 12-4 regular season, that should be good enough to earn the 2 seed but who knows.

Wouldn't be surprised if Kaep vs Wilson becomes the next great QB rivalry.