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stephenson86
04-02-2007, 07:14 PM
I think giving up a fair bit in a trade but not our first would be worth it, i think the kid is special and could really create another dimension in our offense

TitanHope
04-03-2007, 08:38 AM
If we do a "Schaub like deal," for him, I will be ticked. Swap first rounders, and maybe trade our third too. Thats it. We'd get Turner, and whichever WR fell to us at 30. They'd move up to 19, and get Reggie Nelson/whoever they'd be wanting to trade up to get. That would put a smile on my face.

MicktheGreat
04-03-2007, 11:41 AM
If we do a "Schaub like deal," for him, I will be ticked. Swap first rounders, and maybe trade our third too. Thats it. We'd get Turner, and whichever WR fell to us at 30. They'd move up to 19, and get Reggie Nelson/whoever they'd be wanting to trade up to get. That would put a smile on my face.

I agree.

If we straight-up trade our 1st & 3rd for Turner (which is what his current tender is), I too will be disappointed. From what we've seen, Turner looks like a good RB; however, you can never be certain how a backup RB will respond to becoming the full-time RB (see Troy Hambrick, Kevan Barlow, etc.--good backups that ended up sucking when given the starting gig)...

Here's what I'm thinking as a possible scenario:
TITANS get:
RB Michael Turner
1st Round Pick (#30)

CHARGERS get:
1st Round Pick (#16)
3rd Round Pick
Conditional pick next year if Turner meets certain on-field accomplishments (i.e. gets X amount of carries or yards or whatever).

TitanHope
04-03-2007, 04:20 PM
Here's what I'm thinking as a possible scenario:
TITANS get:
RB Michael Turner
1st Round Pick (#30)

CHARGERS get:
1st Round Pick (#16)
3rd Round Pick
Conditional pick next year if Turner meets certain on-field accomplishments (i.e. gets X amount of carries or yards or whatever).

That would work, except we have the #19 pick.

If the trade goes:

Titans Get:
-RB Michael Turner
-Pick #30

Chargers Get:
-Pick #19
-Pick #83


That would value Turner at a mid-second round pick(47th overall, to be exact). Thats about how I would value him.

Pit Bull #53
04-03-2007, 06:11 PM
I want him.

JK17
04-03-2007, 06:14 PM
I agree.

If we straight-up trade our 1st & 3rd for Turner (which is what his current tender is), I too will be disappointed. From what we've seen, Turner looks like a good RB; however, you can never be certain how a backup RB will respond to becoming the full-time RB (see Troy Hambrick, Kevan Barlow, etc.--good backups that ended up sucking when given the starting gig)...

Here's what I'm thinking as a possible scenario:
TITANS get:
RB Michael Turner
1st Round Pick (#30)

CHARGERS get:
1st Round Pick (#16)
3rd Round Pick
Conditional pick next year if Turner meets certain on-field accomplishments (i.e. gets X amount of carries or yards or whatever).

Charger fan here, I would like this trade too (with the #19 pick) and think it would work well for both teams, what kind of conditional pick would you be considering giving up though (how high or how low)

MicktheGreat
04-03-2007, 06:27 PM
Charger fan here, I would like this trade too (with the #19 pick) and think it would work well for both teams, what kind of conditional pick would you be considering giving up though (how high or how low)

I was thinking 3rd rounder with the potential of becoming a 2nd rounder if he hits certain requirements...

Thus, best-case scenario for the Chargers (in this hypothetical deal) would be that they receive a 1st rounder (actually...they would be moving up in that round by exchanging 1st round picks), 2nd rounder (next year), and a 3rd rounder.

JK17
04-03-2007, 06:46 PM
I was thinking 3rd rounder with the potential of becoming a 2nd rounder if he hits certain requirements...

Thus, best-case scenario for the Chargers (in this hypothetical deal) would be that they receive a 1st rounder (actually...they would be moving up in that round by exchanging 1st round picks), 2nd rounder (next year), and a 3rd rounder.

If I was AJ Smith I would hop all over that...I would still even like it if it was just a 3rd or 4th conditional pick, but I think with a 2nd round possibility like that, especially for a guy like Turner, who Chargers fans have no doubt could hit the incentives....I think that would be very hard for SD to turn down. If only we were the GMs...haha.

princefielder28
04-03-2007, 06:46 PM
Ypu guys can have him!!! :)

Gotitansfreak10
04-03-2007, 08:41 PM
this would be a great idea for us. our two most needed 1st positions are the most depth positions in the draft (DE and WR). id like to get Jarrett and with the way his stock is dropping it might be possible to get him at 30, or sydney rice, although he might be available for our 2nd round pick.

as for turner, i think he could be a top 10 back in the league. 6 yards per carry?! if we get him and a good reciever we are set on offense. then can focus on the defense for this years and next years draft.

aNYtitan
04-03-2007, 11:49 PM
How aboout this trade?

Titans recieve:
Michael Turner
2nd round pick(#60)

Chargers recieve:
2nd round pick(#48 i believe)
2008 2nd round pick
and another pick i'm not sure a third rounder is right though

stephenson86
04-04-2007, 05:56 AM
swap firsts, give them a 3rd and a conditional next year. To some it may be alot, but im sorry when you get a 5' 10" back at 237 who can run the way he does you do not miss that opportunity. He can be a workhorse, he has little ware on his tyres, he will instantly make our offense one of the better in the league.

I really am that high on the guy.

JK17
04-04-2007, 05:58 AM
swap firsts, give them a 3rd and a conditional next year. To some it may be alot, but im sorry when you get a 5' 10" back at 237 who can run the way he does you do not miss that opportunity. He can be a workhorse, he has little ware on his tyres, he will instantly make our offense one of the better in the league.

I really am that high on the guy.

Haha, its nice to see fans of other teams actaully high on the same RB we are...most fans think people who like Turner are on crack.

Pit Bull #53
04-04-2007, 08:50 AM
Haha, its nice to see fans of other teams actaully high on the same RB we are...most fans think people who like Turner are on crack.

Yup...I love Turner as well. I mean come one, the kid is a 5'10" 237 lb bull that actually has speed. He runs hard, breaks tackles, rarely goes down on first contact, and then runs away from people. I wish LenDale ran with authority like that. I think Turner would be perfect for what Fisher wants to do.

OzTitan
04-04-2007, 09:44 AM
The value of the picks involved comes more down to what competition is out there for Turner's services than anything else. I think as low as a single 2nd could land him as SD would surely agree getting anything for him is better than nothing when he's a FA after 2007. If they wait until after the draft they're risking the teams in need of a HB finding one in the draft lowing the demand. Not to mention a pick for this upcoming draft sure beats a pick for the 08 draft should they wait until the season is closer.

As far as I see it, if the Chargers want something for Turner, they have 23 days to get something sorted. I see the Titans' interest in Dillon as half bluff to convince SD they have other options and half serious should Buffalo or another team go overboard on the trade offer or even actually give up a 1st and 3rd on the RFA tender.

At first, I was a little skeptical that White was really overweight as I try to believe as little info between Feb and the draft as possible, but if it's true, going after Turner would also hopefully send a message to the team once again that relaxing thinking you have a job secured is ill advised.

aNYtitan
04-04-2007, 12:14 PM
I would rather have the pick of the litter of WR's at #19 then dropping down to #30 and getting whats left over. Meachem and Ginn would create a dynamic offense and one of them will be available at 19. They would give Young a go-to guy for many, many years and give us a recieving core that wouldn be one of the best. I really do like Turner, he is everything you want in a RB, but to go down to the end of first and lose a third is not great value. Hopefully we can sucker San Diego into just a second rounder plus another pick, then all this becomes moot point

gianttitan
04-04-2007, 01:09 PM
I would rather have the pick of the litter of WR's at #19 then dropping down to #30 and getting whats left over. Meachem and Ginn would create a dynamic offense and one of them will be available at 19. They would give Young a go-to guy for many, many years and give us a recieving core that wouldn be one of the best. I really do like Turner, he is everything you want in a RB, but to go down to the end of first and lose a third is not great value. Hopefully we can sucker San Diego into just a second rounder plus another pick, then all this becomes moot point

I agree. I think Turner's going to be a great starter, but I don't want to trade back to a position where we may miss out on a playmaking wide receiver. A second rounder and maybe a conditional pick next year.

Tha rizzock
04-04-2007, 01:13 PM
I dont know why this dude gets so much hype. He goes in when team are usually tired and hes a change of pace guy for LT. The last change of pace back they had was Jeeie chatman who averaged 6 yards a carry behind LT. Dont forget they have an all pro Line too. I think hes worth a late third early 4th nothing more IMO.

OzTitan
04-04-2007, 08:31 PM
I dont know why this dude gets so much hype. He goes in when team are usually tired and hes a change of pace guy for LT. The last change of pace back they had was Jeeie chatman who averaged 6 yards a carry behind LT. Dont forget they have an all pro Line too. I think hes worth a late third early 4th nothing more IMO.

I think he's basically where Lamont Jordan was a few years ago when the Raiders got him only with slightly better ability.

Tha rizzock
04-05-2007, 03:14 AM
I think he's basically where Lamont Jordan was a few years ago when the Raiders got him only with slightly better ability.



I dont, lamont didnt have an all pro line other then kevin mauwae. Turner cant catch and he doesnt have nearly as many carries lamont had.

HorusKing
04-05-2007, 09:51 AM
Personally I don't think turner is worth more than what the Ravens gave up for Willis Mcgahee. I think the Titans moving back in the first round and giving up a 3rd rounder is way to much compensation for a career back up player who was always fresh coming off the bench to relieve LT. I would give a 3rd this year and maybe a 2nd rounder next yer because the Titnas has to many holes to fill.

The titans still need a Pass Rushing DE, #1 WR & a replacement Corner for Pacman Jones.

aNYtitan
04-05-2007, 10:03 AM
Personally I don't think turner is worth more than what the Ravens gave up for Willis Mcgahee. I think the Titans moving back in the first round and giving up a 3rd rounder is way to much compensation for a career back up player who was always fresh coming off the bench to relieve LT. I would give a 3rd this year and maybe a 2nd rounder next yer because the Titnas has to many holes to fill.

The titans still need a Pass Rushing DE, #1 WR & a replacement Corner for Pacman Jones.

I dont think cornerback is still the most pressing need. We have Nick Harper at #1, sadly Reynaldo Hill at #2 and Cortland Finnegan at the slot, who I think will surprise many people. We won't need to replace Pacman because no matter what, he won't be cut from the team, just to see him go to another team that would gamble with All-pro talent.

HorusKing
04-05-2007, 10:27 AM
I dont think cornerback is still the most pressing need. We have Nick Harper at #1, sadly Reynaldo Hill at #2 and Cortland Finnegan at the slot, who I think will surprise many people. We won't need to replace Pacman because no matter what, he won't be cut from the team, just to see him go to another team that would gamble with All-pro talent. Ok with that said who will the Titans go after and do they need to overpay for RB -Turner? Willis Mcgahee is a way better talent than a career backup and the ravens only gave up two 3rd rounders to get him. I think that the Titans have to address the defense that was dead last in the NFL and they are going to lose pacman for at half the season or maybe more. Here is my mock up what they should do in the first four rounds.

1. DE- Jarvis Moss - Florida
2. CB - Marcus McCauley - Fresno St.
3rd rounder sent SD for RB. Mike Turner.
4. MLB - Brandon Siler - Florida
4. DT - Kareem Brown - Miami

aNYtitan
04-05-2007, 12:18 PM
I agree with you, the defense must be improved in this draft, but I believe the top defensive ends will already be gone by our pick, and Moss I think will be nothing more then a decent, if not solid starter. With that said, it is possible to gamble in the second and pick up Quentin Moses or Lamar Woodley, who should be able to gain some muscle and be a good fit for the 4-3. I say this is how the draft should go(no trade for Turner)

1.Robert Meachem/Ted Ginn Jr.
2.Quentin Moses
3.Lorenzo Booker
4.John Wendling
4.Samson Satele

JK17
04-05-2007, 02:12 PM
I dont, lamont didnt have an all pro line other then kevin mauwae. Turner cant catch and he doesnt have nearly as many carries lamont had.

Turner's line consists of two pro-bowlers, not an all-pro line just a good one. And where is this proof that he can't catch?

Tha rizzock
04-05-2007, 03:29 PM
Turner's line consists of two pro-bowlers, not an all-pro line just a good one. And where is this proof that he can't catch?



Look at his games and you will see your proff and not only that he had mcniel,hardiwck,dielmen and goff who were all pro bowlers.

JK17
04-05-2007, 05:06 PM
Look at his games and you will see your proff and not only that he had mcniel,hardiwck,dielmen and goff who were all pro bowlers.

Excuse me, I've watched every Charger game over the past three years, I know his line is good but hardly all-pro. Dielmen was not a pro-bowler, nor was Goff. And tell me how he isn't a good reciever out the backfield?

Tha rizzock
04-05-2007, 05:41 PM
Excuse me, I've watched every Charger game over the past three years, I know his line is good but hardly all-pro. Dielmen was not a pro-bowler, nor was Goff. And tell me how he isn't a good reciever out the backfield?


goff or kris were alternates becuse you guys had a load of O-line in the pro bowl. They dont throw to turner for a reason dude your either a homer charger fan trying to overate turner or your blind and neglect the fact he never gets passes out the backfield.

JK17
04-05-2007, 05:59 PM
goff or kris were alternates becuse you guys had a load of O-line in the pro bowl. They dont throw to turner for a reason dude your either a homer charger fan trying to overate turner or your blind and neglect the fact he never gets passes out the backfield.

Okay, I'm a Charger fan....

"He never gets passed out of the backfield"
.....he is still a backup you know. We have this guy LT who goes in for most of the games, raiders fans should be familiar with him. When Turner goes in it is usually to run the ball, but just because they don't throw it to him does not mean he can't catch like you said. I think it's a little less likely right now that I am being a blind homer, but you feel it necessary to downgrade Turner because he is a division rival.

Just because someone hasn't done something in the past does not mean they cannot, that is just pure speculation on your part with no real evidence. Calvin Johnson has not caught a pass in the NFL either, does that mean he can't do it? You should use facts rather than blindly throwing out false information to make an argument.

Edit: By the way, your reasoning that Turner is worse than Lamont in '04 (prior to becoming a Raider) because he couldn't catch is extremely flawed. Lamont had 15 catches in 04. That is better than Turner but Lamont hardly established he was a recieving threat with <1 rec. per game in 04. Plus Lamont was used in more games, and in much more of a platoon role than Turner has been so he was given many more opportunities to recieve the ball.

smittyjs
04-05-2007, 06:05 PM
I wouldn't trade nothing more than a 3rd for turner, he has yet to prove anything other than the fact that he ran well against are suck ass run Defense and he ran well after LT wore down the defense of the opposite team. I wopuld rather sign CB back, atleast he has proven more.

MicktheGreat
04-05-2007, 06:18 PM
I wouldn't trade nothing more than a 3rd for turner, he has yet to prove anything other than the fact that he ran well against are suck ass run Defense and he ran well after LT wore down the defense of the opposite team. I wopuld rather sign CB back, atleast he has proven more.

You're absolutely right about Chris Brown being proven...

A proven injury-risk, that is...

smittyjs
04-05-2007, 06:28 PM
You're absolutely right about Chris Brown being proven...

A proven injury-risk, that is...
I not saying he the guy for the Titans(Even though CB i do think could have a pretty good season behind this OL), i'm just saying he has proven more than what turner has.

Pit Bull #53
04-05-2007, 07:38 PM
I not saying he the guy for the Titans(Even though CB i do think could have a pretty good season behind this OL), i'm just saying he has proven more than what turner has.

So who else are we gonna get if we can't get Brown back? Corey Dillon doesn't have much, if anything left. And Turner may be unproven, but he's more proven than any back we'd get in the draft.

aNYtitan
04-05-2007, 08:00 PM
So who else are we gonna get if we can't get Brown back? Corey Dillon doesn't have much, if anything left. And Turner may be unproven, but he's more proven than any back we'd get in the draft.

I still say we take Lorenzo Booker in the 3rd if he is still available. A small, shifty little back who has a low center of gravity but plenty of speed to compliment LenDale

HorusKing
04-05-2007, 08:27 PM
Look guys I say we sign Dillion for one season and draft either Antonio Pittman or Lorenzo Booker in the 3rd as the change back for Lendale & Dillion instead of wasting a 3rd on turner. We can address this next year if none of these guys work out. Remember Defense wins championships and the Titans have to address the pass rush early to take pressure off the secondary.

MicktheGreat
04-05-2007, 09:49 PM
I not saying he the guy for the Titans(Even though CB i do think could have a pretty good season behind this OL), i'm just saying he has proven more than what turner has.

I was just joking...(hence, the smilie at the top of my previous post)...

TitanHope
04-05-2007, 10:49 PM
Dillon will want to start if he comes here. He won't want to play the mentor/complimentory role, and split carries. Its why he left New England.

Whether or not we get Brown back will be determined if he gets signed with Buffalo. If Buffalo signs Turner, we'll sign Brown. If we sign Turner, Buffalo signs Brown. Thats how I see things turning out.

That being said, I'd rather have Turner. Brown is injury prone, and was apparently 3rd on our depth chart behind Henry and LenDale for a reason. I've seen Turner play a little, and I believe is a high character guy(Or so I've heard...but he's obviously a good RB, and knew he would always be second to Tomlinson in San Diego, but I never heard a word from him in the media or that he ever asked for a trade; Something many others would do). Plus, he adds new life/competition to our running game. I'd trade a 2nd for him, or a 3rd this year and a conditional 3rd next year which could turn into a second.

TitanHope
04-05-2007, 11:25 PM
Turner Highlight Reel (http://www.dailymotion.com/jcdavey/video/x1lrpq_turnervid)

This was posted in another thread on TitansCentral. A poster in it said Turner resembles Maurice Jones-Drew.

Tha rizzock
04-06-2007, 01:35 AM
you guys should go tony hunt

OzTitan
04-06-2007, 02:05 AM
I dont, lamont didnt have an all pro line other then kevin mauwae. Turner cant catch and he doesnt have nearly as many carries lamont had.

Well, besides the fact I was comparing them as similar players as backups and not their situations, of course the carries won't be the same - Turner will have spent 3 seasons as a backup, and Jordan spent 4. In their last two seasons as backups they both had about the same amount of carries.

smittyjs
04-06-2007, 11:47 AM
Turner Highlight Reel (http://www.dailymotion.com/jcdavey/video/x1lrpq_turnervid)

This was posted in another thread on TitansCentral. A poster in it said Turner resembles Maurice Jones-Drew.
The only thing caught my eyes was the run against the bears, other than that his big gains were after the game was well in hand(Bills and Titans) and against god awful defenses (Titans). If we can get tuner to sign a seven or eight year deal before he is traded, i would be fine with trading a third round pick for him, and that could become a second depending on playing time this season. But that is all i would give for him

TitanHope
04-06-2007, 05:17 PM
you guys should go tony hunt

Hunt is the same type of back as LenDale, except slower. We don't need two power backs.

VYTitans
04-07-2007, 01:02 PM
Also I wouldn't mind much if we missed out on Turner, but it also wouldn't be a bad thing if we drafted Booker or my boy, http://youtube.com/watch?v=U_N4jeoGz2M, Garrett Wolfe. He may be undersized, but he is a big haelp in the passing game, he's fast enough to outrun people and make them miss, but he's also not afraid to run into defenders.

schmiddog
04-10-2007, 03:26 PM
Hunt is the same type of back as LenDale, except slower. We don't need two power backs.

I hope that the Titans don't even think about drafting Tony Hunt. Aside from Peterson and Lynch, there are really no backs worth drafting to get a lot of carries, with the exception maybe being Kenny Irons. I really hope we get Turner in FA, Chris Houston in the 1st round, and Sidney Rice in the 2nd round.

TitanHope
04-27-2007, 06:13 PM
Turner was re-signed, which takes his restricted free agent tender go away. So now, he's tradeable. And John Clayton has stated that a trade has been agreed with between the Chargers and an unknown team who would be trading their 1st round pick for Turner.

Think its us?

Pit Bull #53
04-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Did he say it was for the 1st round pick straight up? Cause I would be pissed then. If it's us, I really hope it's a switch of 1st rounders and an additional pick/future pick. And as y'all know, I hope we get him.

Pit Bull #53
04-27-2007, 07:08 PM
I just read that the offer is a 2008 1st round pick. I wouldn't mind that as much. I want him.

Cashmoney
04-27-2007, 07:17 PM
I dont want us to give an outright #1 draft pick for him. who knows what could happen next year. If (god forbid) vince goes down for the season we could be the worst team in the league and basically hand the chargers the #1 pick of next years draft. now if we were to swap first rounders this year id have absolutely no problem with that.

TitanHope
04-27-2007, 07:31 PM
I don't want to trade a '07 nor '08 1st rounder for this guy. I think he's a good player, but look at the RB's available in next year's draft. Darren McFadden, Ray Rice, Steve Slaton, Jonathan Stewart, and Mike Hart. Next year's draft is stacked at RB. Not to mention its filled with other great talent. I'd just hate to go 6-10 this year, get a Top 10/Top 15 draft pick, only for San Diego to have the rights for it.

Swap first round picks, and throw in a 4th rounder.

MicktheGreat
04-27-2007, 10:26 PM
I read somewhere else that the rumor is that it's the Packers and NOT the Titans who are acquiring Turner (in exchange for a 2008 1st rounder)...

Not sure if that's true...just what I heard...

stephenson86
04-28-2007, 05:56 AM
I WANT HIM......hes amazing

UncleHulka
05-10-2007, 05:16 PM
Wow, I just can't get over you guys that feel that Michael Turner is worth no more than a third round pick. Do you really believe that Henry was better value with a 2nd rounder? Insane.

TitanHope
05-10-2007, 06:59 PM
No, we don't think Henry was worth a 2nd rounder, hence why many of us weren't happy about the pick.