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nobodyinparticular
07-10-2006, 02:20 AM
Just over a month after we started this site-wide project, we have now completed it. There have been some controversies about some positions, but that's life. This is the draft order and power rankings that you as a board have come up with. It is recommended that you use this draft order in any 2007 mock drafts just to keep a little continuity and to keep those pesky "My team should be picking at 32!!!" comments away. Obviously you are free to use any draft order you like, but this has the NFLDC Board Stamp since it was the people who decided this. So without further ado, here it is!

32. San Francisco 49ers
31. Buffalo Bills
30. New York Jets
29. Tennessee Titans
28. New Orleans Saints
27. Houston Texans
26. Oakland Raiders (yes, predicted to have the 7th pick for 3 straight years)
25. Detroit Lions
24. Minnesota Vikings
23. Green Bay Packers
22. St. Louis Rams
21. Cleveland Browns
20. Arizona Cardinals
19. San Diego Chargers
18. Baltimore Ravens
17. Philadelphia Eagles
16. Atlanta Falcons
15. Washington Redskins
14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
13. Miami Dolphins
12. Kansas City Chiefs
11. Jacksonville Jaguars
10. New England Patriots
9. New York Giants
8. Dallas Cowboys
7. Chicago Bears
6. Cincinnati Bengals
5. Denver Broncos
4. Indianapolis Colts
3. Seattle Seahawks
2. Pittsburgh Steelers
1. Carolina Panthers

duckseason
07-10-2006, 02:26 AM
I like that you did this, but I think the final result just shows that people place too much value on what happened last season when trying to predict what will happen this year. Some of those teams that were great last year are going to drop, and others will rise. Thanks for doing it though. It'll be interesting to look back on this and see how accurate "our" consesus ranking was.

nobodyinparticular
07-10-2006, 02:28 AM
I like that you did this, but I think the final result just shows that people place too much value on what happened last season when trying to predict what will happen this year. Some of those teams that were great last year are going to drop, and others will rise. Thanks for doing it though. It'll be interesting to look back on this and see how accurate "our" consesus ranking was.

It actually is pretty interesting. I'll dig up last year's results and post them here in relation to actual draft position.

duckseason
07-10-2006, 02:31 AM
It actually is pretty interesting. I'll dig up last year's results and post them here in relation to actual draft position.

I'd love to see that....I wasn't around last year.....

Gribble
07-10-2006, 02:32 AM
Pats at #10 is interesting...

nobodyinparticular
07-10-2006, 02:38 AM
Power Rankings results from last offseason:
#1 New England
#2 Philadelphia
#3 Indianapolis
#4 Pittsburgh
#5 Atlanta
#6 Minnesota
#7 Baltimore
#8 San Diego
#9 Carolina
#10 NY Jets
#11 Kansas City
#12 Cincinnati
#13 Jacksonville
#14 Arizona
#15 Detroit
#16 Houston
#17 St Louis
#18 Seattle
#19 Denver
#20 New Orleans
#21 Oakland
#22 Dallas
#23 Buffalo
#24 Chicago
#25 Green Bay
#26 NY Giants
#27 Tampa Bay
#28 Miami
#29 Washington
#30 Tennessee
#31 San Francisco
#32 Cleveland

Actual order:
1. Pittsburgh
2. Seattle
3. Indianapolis
4. Denver
5. Jacksonville
6. Carolina
7. Chicago
8. N. Y. Giants
9. Cincinnati
10. Tampa Bay
11. Washington
12. New England
13. Kansas City
14. San Diego
15. Dallas
16. Minnesota
17. Miami
18. Atlanta
19. Philadelphia
20. Baltimore
21. Cleveland
22. St. Louis
23. Arizona
24. Detroit
25. Buffalo
26. Oakland
27. San Francisco
28. Green Bay
29. N. Y. Jets
30. Tennessee
31. New Orleans
32. Houston

nobodyinparticular
07-10-2006, 02:38 AM
Pats at #10 is interesting...

They were at #12 last year.

duckseason
07-10-2006, 02:42 AM
WOW. :shock: That shows exactly how much stock I'm putting in this year's pre-season rankings......none.
Thanks NIP. Very interesting indeed.

iripcorners26
07-10-2006, 02:57 AM
WOW. :shock: That shows exactly how much stock I'm putting in this year's pre-season rankings......none.
Thanks NIP. Very interesting indeed.

That is funny. It does go to show you that pre-season rankings are pointless. Those rankings don't seem too bad though... for now at least.

Canadian_kid16
07-10-2006, 06:37 AM
That is funny, TB was #27 last year

ChiBear
07-10-2006, 07:32 AM
Not bad, although the Pats will do better, and I think Cincy will lose some games because of the Palmer injury.

Nerv
07-10-2006, 02:47 PM
This reminds me of how highly we thought of the Lions on this board last year :oops: Well at least this year our expectations are so low that any success will be a positive.

Shane P. Hallam
07-10-2006, 02:52 PM
I just did the first mock with the new order in the mock draft forum :)

XxXdragonXxX
07-10-2006, 05:44 PM
That's odd...

Arizona was 14th last year, everyone thinks they're the most improved team (again), but they're 20th this year which is ony 3 spots above their actuall 2005 ranking.

Shane P. Hallam
07-10-2006, 06:26 PM
This reminds me of how highly we thought of the Lions on this board last year :oops: Well at least this year our expectations are so low that any success will be a positive.

This is why, when we expect things of smaller teams that never win, they continue not winning (ie: Cardinals).

yodabear
07-10-2006, 08:08 PM
Just over a month after we started this site-wide project, we have now completed it. There have been some controversies about some positions, but that's life. This is the draft order and power rankings that you as a board have come up with. It is recommended that you use this draft order in any 2007 mock drafts just to keep a little continuity and to keep those pesky "My team should be picking at 32!!!" comments away. Obviously you are free to use any draft order you like, but this has the NFLDC Board Stamp since it was the people who decided this. So without further ado, here it is!

32. San Francisco 49ers
31. Buffalo Bills
30. New York Jets
29. Tennessee Titans
28. New Orleans Saints
27. Houston Texans
26. Oakland Raiders (yes, predicted to have the 7th pick for 3 straight years)
25. Detroit Lions
24. Minnesota Vikings
23. Green Bay Packers
22. St. Louis Rams
21. Cleveland Browns
20. Arizona Cardinals
19. San Diego Chargers
18. Baltimore Ravens
17. Philadelphia Eagles
16. Atlanta Falcons
15. Washington Redskins
14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
13. Miami Dolphins
12. Kansas City Chiefs
11. Jacksonville Jaguars
10. New England Patriots
9. New York Giants
8. Dallas Cowboys
7. Chicago Bears
6. Cincinnati Bengals
5. Denver Broncos
4. Indianapolis Colts
3. Seattle Seahawks
2. Pittsburgh Steelers
1. Carolina Panthers

I give them a F.....the only one we got right right was #32.

draftguru151
07-10-2006, 08:51 PM
This reminds me of how highly we thought of the Lions on this board last year :oops: Well at least this year our expectations are so low that any success will be a positive.

This is why, when we expect things of smaller teams that never win, they continue not winning (ie: Cardinals).

Look at Houston :shock:

Shiver
07-10-2006, 09:02 PM
Power Rankings are stupid, just my opinion.

Shane P. Hallam
07-10-2006, 09:37 PM
This reminds me of how highly we thought of the Lions on this board last year :oops: Well at least this year our expectations are so low that any success will be a positive.

This is why, when we expect things of smaller teams that never win, they continue not winning (ie: Cardinals).

Look at Houston :shock:

Exactly, we should never expect anything...

CalBears99
07-10-2006, 09:53 PM
that's TERRIBLE. I'm sorry, but no one in their right mind would think the redskins will do that poorly.

draftguru151
07-10-2006, 10:00 PM
that's TERRIBLE. I'm sorry, but no one in their right mind would think the redskins will do that poorly.

That isn't that bad. 15th best team in the league.

nobodyinparticular
07-10-2006, 11:19 PM
that's TERRIBLE. I'm sorry, but no one in their right mind would think the redskins will do that poorly.

http://nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24426

16 people in their right mind thought so... And they barely made it that far, just missing out on going in quite a few consecutive polls.

Iamcanadian
07-11-2006, 06:32 AM
The NFL is a QB/schedule league, and every year sees 8 new teams make the playoffs. If your rankings doesn't include 8 new teams, it won't come anywhere close to looking like the real thing.

Beans
07-11-2006, 12:21 PM
OFFICIAL NFLDC RISE AND FALL OF 2006

1.NY Giants +18
2.Tampa Bay +17
2.Washington +17
2.Chicago +17
5.Seattle +16
6.Denver +15
7.Miami +11
7.Cleveland +11
9.Jacksonville +8
10.Dallas +7
11.San Francisco +4
12.Cincinnati +3
12.Pittsburgh +3
12.Carolina +3
15.Indianapolis +0
15.Tennessee +0
17.Kansas City -2
17.Buffalo -2
19.Green Bay -3
20.Oakland -5
20.St Louis -5
22.San Diego -6
23.Arizona -9
23.Detroit -9
25.Minnesota -10
26.New Orleans -11
26.New England -11
28.Atlanta -13
28.Baltimore -13
30.Houston -16
31.Philadelphia -17
32.NY Jets -19

Based off last year's power rankings and the '06 draft order.

nobodyinparticular
07-11-2006, 12:46 PM
The Jets were at #10 last year?!?!?!? I forgot how many Jets fans we had here last year...

XxXdragonXxX
07-11-2006, 01:19 PM
The Jets were at #10 last year?!?!?!? I forgot how many Jets fans we had here last year...

They were at 10 because they were 10-6 (tied for 7th best record in the NFL) in 2004 and beat the 12-4 Chargers in the playoffs.

stephenson86
07-11-2006, 01:44 PM
Its an A because we did it

narf029
07-12-2006, 02:41 PM
I have individual questions on some teams, but I won't let my opinion on 2 or 3 teams take away from the overall quality here, good job yall.

President
07-14-2006, 07:36 PM
Good, i'd say B+ overall.

Smooth Criminal
07-16-2006, 10:53 AM
that's TERRIBLE. I'm sorry, but no one in their right mind would think the redskins will do that poorly.

FAs can't buy wins. Most fans realize by now that the way to win is through the draft.

Hyphii Kid
07-21-2006, 12:00 PM
Niners aren't the worst

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
07-21-2006, 08:46 PM
Why was hyphii kid banned?

I gave it a B.

Eaglez.Fan
07-25-2006, 09:15 AM
Oh yeah, Philly at 17th with the 3rd best QB in the league :lol:

Shiver
07-25-2006, 04:27 PM
All you have to do is look at last year's results.

raiderfan_89
07-25-2006, 10:24 PM
I still think the Ravens are gonna upset the Begals and Steelers,with Steelers in 2nd and the Bengals in 3rd in that division.

Shiver
07-26-2006, 01:45 AM
So do I.

thetedginnshow
07-26-2006, 02:26 AM
You know, I'm sort of afraid because every time a Seattle team is actually given their credit, they don't live up to expectations (unless they're the Washington Huskies). But of course, considering they're figuring on getting back to the Super Bowl, I guess this might be enough of an undershoot.

07-26-2006, 04:12 PM
Just over a month after we started this site-wide project, we have now completed it. There have been some controversies about some positions, but that's life. This is the draft order and power rankings that you as a board have come up with. It is recommended that you use this draft order in any 2007 mock drafts just to keep a little continuity and to keep those pesky "My team should be picking at 32!!!" comments away. Obviously you are free to use any draft order you like, but this has the NFLDC Board Stamp since it was the people who decided this. So without further ado, here it is!

32. San Francisco 49ers
31. Buffalo Bills
30. New York Jets
29. Tennessee Titans
28. New Orleans Saints
27. Houston Texans
26. Oakland Raiders (yes, predicted to have the 7th pick for 3 straight years)
25. Detroit Lions
24. Minnesota Vikings
23. Green Bay Packers
22. St. Louis Rams
21. Cleveland Browns
20. Arizona Cardinals
19. San Diego Chargers
18. Baltimore Ravens
17. Philadelphia Eagles
16. Atlanta Falcons
15. Washington Redskins
14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
13. Miami Dolphins
12. Kansas City Chiefs
11. Jacksonville Jaguars
10. New England Patriots
9. New York Giants
8. Dallas Cowboys
7. Chicago Bears
6. Cincinnati Bengals
5. Denver Broncos
4. Indianapolis Colts
3. Seattle Seahawks
2. Pittsburgh Steelers
1. Carolina Panthers

to high i think

mcdlaxbonz13
07-27-2006, 10:57 PM
with baltimore i think they will do better because at the time of this Mcnair was still a titan not a raven so i think this puts them alot higher

Canadian_kid16
07-29-2006, 02:41 PM
Cincy is 2 high...and so is Carolina

07-29-2006, 02:44 PM
Cincy is 2 high...and so is Carolina

i agree about cincy but care to explain about carolina?

Canadian_kid16
07-29-2006, 02:49 PM
Cincy is 2 high...and so is Carolina

i agree about cincy but care to explain about carolina?


care to guess?? :lol:

Canadian_kid16
08-01-2006, 10:09 AM
Cincy is 2 high...and so is Carolina

i agree about cincy but care to explain about carolina?


care to guess?? :lol:

guess ur not guessing?? :lol:

RCAChainGang
08-02-2006, 12:12 AM
Am i the only one who thinks the stealers wont be better than they were last year? I dont think they'll make the playoffs.

Finsfan79
08-02-2006, 01:01 PM
miami should be higher with Cpepper practicing already but oh wells, I would rather be an underdog. Pats should drop for their poor offseason, Chiefs need to drop because of the loss of Roaf too. Their Running game just took a crash.

eazyb81
08-02-2006, 02:16 PM
People need to understand that this isn't necessarily predicting how the teams will finish at the end of the year. These are power rankings, which basically are ranking the teams based on what we know right now. Of course someone like Baltimore, Miami, Washington, etc. could end up winning the Super Bowl, but based on last year and what we know right now it would be silly to rank them that high.

They're preseason power rankings, not end of year predictions.

Iamcanadian
08-03-2006, 11:00 AM
People need to understand that this isn't necessarily predicting how the teams will finish at the end of the year. These are power rankings, which basically are ranking the teams based on what we know right now. Of course someone like Baltimore, Miami, Washington, etc. could end up winning the Super Bowl, but based on last year and what we know right now it would be silly to rank them that high.

They're preseason power rankings, not end of year predictions.

What we know right now is that around 8 new teams will make the playoffs, it happens every year. Basing power rankings on last year performance never works because the NFL uses schedules to make sure that 8 new teams will make the playoffs.
For instance, the NFC North, the worst division in pro football, played the AFC North and the NFC South last year, and both of those conferences produced a lot of playoff teams as a result. The NFC North doesn't play those 2 conferences this year, and as a result there could be fewer playoff teams coming from those 2 conferences. The NFC North instead plays the AFC East and the NFC West, so you might expect to see these 2 conferences produce more playoff teams. On the other hand, the AFC North play the AFC West and the NFC South, so the conference may only produce 1 playoff team. The NFC South may also only see 1 playoff team as they now play the AFC North and the NFC East. That's how the system works.

Canadian_kid16
08-03-2006, 11:33 AM
People need to understand that this isn't necessarily predicting how the teams will finish at the end of the year. These are power rankings, which basically are ranking the teams based on what we know right now. Of course someone like Baltimore, Miami, Washington, etc. could end up winning the Super Bowl, but based on last year and what we know right now it would be silly to rank them that high.

They're preseason power rankings, not end of year predictions.

What we know right now is that around 8 new teams will make the playoffs, it happens every year. Basing power rankings on last year performance never works because the NFL uses schedules to make sure that 8 new teams will make the playoffs.
For instance, the NFC North, the worst division in pro football, played the AFC North and the NFC South last year, and both of those conferences produced a lot of playoff teams as a result. The NFC North doesn't play those 2 conferences this year, and as a result there could be fewer playoff teams coming from those 2 conferences. The NFC North instead plays the AFC East and the NFC West, so you might expect to see these 2 conferences produce more playoff teams. On the other hand, the AFC North play the AFC West and the NFC South, so the conference may only produce 1 playoff team. The NFC South may also only see 1 playoff team as they now play the AFC North and the NFC East. That's how the system works.


wow...I didn't no it worked like that...and besides...the people who voted this voted teams who were already good...no creativity :wink:

eazyb81
08-04-2006, 01:13 PM
People need to understand that this isn't necessarily predicting how the teams will finish at the end of the year. These are power rankings, which basically are ranking the teams based on what we know right now. Of course someone like Baltimore, Miami, Washington, etc. could end up winning the Super Bowl, but based on last year and what we know right now it would be silly to rank them that high.

They're preseason power rankings, not end of year predictions.

What we know right now is that around 8 new teams will make the playoffs, it happens every year. Basing power rankings on last year performance never works because the NFL uses schedules to make sure that 8 new teams will make the playoffs.
For instance, the NFC North, the worst division in pro football, played the AFC North and the NFC South last year, and both of those conferences produced a lot of playoff teams as a result. The NFC North doesn't play those 2 conferences this year, and as a result there could be fewer playoff teams coming from those 2 conferences. The NFC North instead plays the AFC East and the NFC West, so you might expect to see these 2 conferences produce more playoff teams. On the other hand, the AFC North play the AFC West and the NFC South, so the conference may only produce 1 playoff team. The NFC South may also only see 1 playoff team as they now play the AFC North and the NFC East. That's how the system works.

Of course, but like I said, we're ranking these teams based off what we know right now. I don't think anyone expects all of the top 12 teams in our power ranking to make the playoffs, but at this point they certainly have more of an argument than teams like Cleveland, Tennessee, and Houston. Any of those teams could make the playoffs, but right now it would be silly to rank them over more proven teams. This is a power ranking, not a prediction.

Iamcanadian
08-10-2006, 08:41 AM
People need to understand that this isn't necessarily predicting how the teams will finish at the end of the year. These are power rankings, which basically are ranking the teams based on what we know right now. Of course someone like Baltimore, Miami, Washington, etc. could end up winning the Super Bowl, but based on last year and what we know right now it would be silly to rank them that high.

They're preseason power rankings, not end of year predictions.

What we know right now is that around 8 new teams will make the playoffs, it happens every year. Basing power rankings on last year performance never works because the NFL uses schedules to make sure that 8 new teams will make the playoffs.
For instance, the NFC North, the worst division in pro football, played the AFC North and the NFC South last year, and both of those conferences produced a lot of playoff teams as a result. The NFC North doesn't play those 2 conferences this year, and as a result there could be fewer playoff teams coming from those 2 conferences. The NFC North instead plays the AFC East and the NFC West, so you might expect to see these 2 conferences produce more playoff teams. On the other hand, the AFC North play the AFC West and the NFC South, so the conference may only produce 1 playoff team. The NFC South may also only see 1 playoff team as they now play the AFC North and the NFC East. That's how the system works.

Of course, but like I said, we're ranking these teams based off what we know right now. I don't think anyone expects all of the top 12 teams in our power ranking to make the playoffs, but at this point they certainly have more of an argument than teams like Cleveland, Tennessee, and Houston. Any of those teams could make the playoffs, but right now it would be silly to rank them over more proven teams. This is a power ranking, not a prediction.

Actually if you examine their schedules, a lot of teams that made the playoffs are very unlikely to repeat. Their power rankings were based on playing Divisions like the NFC North, teams they won't face this coming year. They have little prospect of returning to the playoffs, otherwise you might as well just post last year's standings as your power rankings if your not making any predictions. Since 8 of the 12 playoff teams won't make the playoffs as reality has shown, there are very few arguments that would support these power rankings.

eazyb81
08-10-2006, 11:58 AM
I'm not sure how many times it has to be said, but these are POWER RANKINGS, NOT PREDICTIONS. They are not mutually exclusive. These are the rankings heading into the season, not predictions of who will be in the playoffs at the end of the season.

Everyone knows about the parity in the NFL, so it wouldn't be shocking for a team like Cleveland, Oakland, or Buffalo to end up making the playoffs this year. However, those teams have no business in the top 12 of the preseason power rankings ahead of more proven teams.

The Legend
08-10-2006, 12:11 PM
Favre wont have a bad year i think you guys are forget that he had no running back no wide outs no o-line they inprove on all thoese things

the oline know is alot better then year

wideout crew alot better (healty ferg / 2nd yr gardner / adding jennings & rodgers)

faithful favre ive never seen so favre faithful in his team

amazing defence that defence is sick all they have to do is have there dt come thru

bash bro cb woodson make harris job alot easyer

so no way a bottom 10 team

and eagles and raven are playoffs teams

i think you 4got that mcnabb got hurt also westbrook and the rest of the team

and a 2nd yr brown is a huge deal

ravens awnser every need this yr

critesy
08-10-2006, 02:10 PM
someone get this kid spell check.

Iamcanadian
08-14-2006, 10:33 AM
I'm not sure how many times it has to be said, but these are POWER RANKINGS, NOT PREDICTIONS. They are not mutually exclusive. These are the rankings heading into the season, not predictions of who will be in the playoffs at the end of the season.

Everyone knows about the parity in the NFL, so it wouldn't be shocking for a team like Cleveland, Oakland, or Buffalo to end up making the playoffs this year. However, those teams have no business in the top 12 of the preseason power rankings ahead of more proven teams.

They sure look like predictions to me otherwise you'd have to go by last year's records. If it smells like a prediction and looks like a prediction, then I'd have to say it is a prediction and it isn't going to be close to being right. JMO.

TimD
08-23-2006, 12:28 AM
The Jets were at #10 last year?!?!?!? I forgot how many Jets fans we had here last year...

before the season alot of analysts had them getting to the Superbowl or at least AFC Championship... everyone predicted that Chad would be fine, and no one could predict that 2 offensive lineman, 2 quarterbacks, 1 HOF runningback, 1 starting LB, and some other players would get hurt...

I think it shouls be interesting after the season to see how wrong we were :D ...

Canadian_kid16
09-02-2006, 09:14 AM
bump??

YoJoeBucsFan
09-12-2006, 06:39 PM
Tampa is definitely in the lower 10 of the league.

nobodyinparticular
09-13-2006, 07:44 PM
Unofficial Notice: Until they show otherwise, feel free to put the Raiders #1 in your mock drafts.

Monday night was pathetic. I was sick to my stomach.

draftguru151
09-13-2006, 09:07 PM
Unofficial Notice: Until they show otherwise, feel free to put the Raiders #1 in your mock drafts.

Monday night was pathetic. I was sick to my stomach.

Just don't give them Brady Quinn. :wink:

P-L
09-13-2006, 10:33 PM
Unofficial Notice: Until they show otherwise, feel free to put the Raiders #1 in your mock drafts.

Monday night was pathetic. I was sick to my stomach.

Your team cost me a bonus point in pick 'em. I hate you NIP.

B-Dawk23
09-14-2006, 10:27 AM
Why are they ranked so high. The eagles are way better than the bears and it is not becasue I am an eagle fan but the coaching record proves it.

09-18-2006, 04:51 PM
Unofficial Notice: Until they show otherwise, feel free to put the Raiders #1 in your mock drafts.

Monday night was pathetic. I was sick to my stomach.

Just don't give them Brady Quinn. :wink:

But who's the Number 1 DB in nation?

art vandelay
09-18-2006, 06:08 PM
Haha wow the draft order would look alot different now just 2 games into the season

The Legend
09-19-2006, 04:10 AM
Haha wow the draft order would look alot different now just 2 games into the season

20. Arizona Cardinals
19. San Diego Chargers
18. Baltimore Ravens
17. Philadelphia Eagles

:lol:

LonghornsLegend
09-20-2006, 07:15 PM
wow...is all i can say looking back at the first page at comments, rankings etc....you just never know

09-23-2006, 08:34 AM
That is funny, TB was #27 last year

Washington was at 29 and they beat the Bucs, ha

FlutiesDropKick
10-04-2006, 09:23 AM
i think its time for an update

The Legend
10-06-2006, 01:32 AM
Just over a month after we started this site-wide project, we have now completed it. There have been some controversies about some positions, but that's life. This is the draft order and power rankings that you as a board have come up with. It is recommended that you use this draft order in any 2007 mock drafts just to keep a little continuity and to keep those pesky "My team should be picking at 32!!!" comments away. Obviously you are free to use any draft order you like, but this has the NFLDC Board Stamp since it was the people who decided this. So without further ado, here it is!

32. San Francisco 49ers
31. Buffalo Bills
30. New York Jets
29. Tennessee Titans
28. New Orleans Saints
27. Houston Texans
26. Oakland Raiders (yes, predicted to have the 7th pick for 3 straight years)
25. Detroit Lions
24. Minnesota Vikings
23. Green Bay Packers
22. St. Louis Rams
21. Cleveland Browns
20. Arizona Cardinals
19. San Diego Chargers
18. Baltimore Ravens
17. Philadelphia Eagles
16. Atlanta Falcons
15. Washington Redskins
14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
13. Miami Dolphins
12. Kansas City Chiefs
11. Jacksonville Jaguars
10. New England Patriots
9. New York Giants
8. Dallas Cowboys
7. Chicago Bears
6. Cincinnati Bengals
5. Denver Broncos
4. Indianapolis Colts
3. Seattle Seahawks
2. Pittsburgh Steelers
1. Carolina Panthers

its crazy how things have change

Rob S
10-17-2006, 10:08 AM
where are the Bills now? Anyone know

10-17-2006, 03:26 PM
Tampa is definitely in the lower 10 of the league.wow look, YoJoe bashing the bucs. That NEVER happens.

10-17-2006, 03:55 PM
Tampa is definitely in the lower 10 of the league.wow look, YoJoe bashing the bucs. That NEVER happens.

They are one of the 10 worst teams in the league.

10-17-2006, 04:57 PM
Tampa is definitely in the lower 10 of the league.wow look, YoJoe bashing the bucs. That NEVER happens.

They are one of the 10 worst teams in the league.i didnt say they werent, but YoJoe says it like everyone thinks they're a top 10 team.

10-17-2006, 04:58 PM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

cgf
10-17-2006, 09:30 PM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

What's there that's positive to say about the bucs?

10-18-2006, 01:01 AM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

What's there that's positive to say about the bucs? :roll:
Lets see...

Future at RG who was called a "reach" in the draft, played tremendous for his first start of his NFL career.
Trueblood at RT looks great, also called a reach. Future is bright for the bucs o-line.
A young RB who gets better as the game goes on and could be a top back in a couple years.
A young QB who has played great for his first 2 starts.

yea man, there's NOTHING positive to say about the bucs.

VoteLynnSwan
10-18-2006, 12:34 PM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

What's there that's positive to say about the bucs? :roll:
Lets see...

Future at RG who was called a "reach" in the draft, played tremendous for his first start of his NFL career.
Trueblood at RT looks great, also called a reach. Future is bright for the bucs o-line.
A young RB who gets better as the game goes on and could be a top back in a couple years.
A young QB who has played great for his first 2 starts.

yea man, there's NOTHING positive to say about the bucs.

Homer.

10-18-2006, 02:45 PM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

What's there that's positive to say about the bucs? :roll:
Lets see...

Future at RG who was called a "reach" in the draft, played tremendous for his first start of his NFL career.
Trueblood at RT looks great, also called a reach. Future is bright for the bucs o-line.
A young RB who gets better as the game goes on and could be a top back in a couple years.
A young QB who has played great for his first 2 starts.

yea man, there's NOTHING positive to say about the bucs.

Homer.how is that a homer? Everything i said is true/could be true....

VoteLynnSwan
10-18-2006, 02:46 PM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

What's there that's positive to say about the bucs? :roll:
Lets see...

Future at RG who was called a "reach" in the draft, played tremendous for his first start of his NFL career.
Trueblood at RT looks great, also called a reach. Future is bright for the bucs o-line.
A young RB who gets better as the game goes on and could be a top back in a couple years.
A young QB who has played great for his first 2 starts.

yea man, there's NOTHING positive to say about the bucs.

Homer.how is that a homer? Everything i said is true/could be true....

o, sorry... i was just reading your title.

10-18-2006, 02:49 PM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

What's there that's positive to say about the bucs? :roll:
Lets see...

Future at RG who was called a "reach" in the draft, played tremendous for his first start of his NFL career.
Trueblood at RT looks great, also called a reach. Future is bright for the bucs o-line.
A young RB who gets better as the game goes on and could be a top back in a couple years.
A young QB who has played great for his first 2 starts.

yea man, there's NOTHING positive to say about the bucs.

Homer.how is that a homer? Everything i said is true/could be true....

o, sorry... i was just reading your title.Thats alright, It'll be gone soon.

10-19-2006, 01:40 PM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

What's there that's positive to say about the bucs? :roll:
Lets see...

Future at RG who was called a "reach" in the draft, played tremendous for his first start of his NFL career.
Trueblood at RT looks great, also called a reach. Future is bright for the bucs o-line.
A young RB who gets better as the game goes on and could be a top back in a couple years.
A young QB who has played great for his first 2 starts.

yea man, there's NOTHING positive to say about the bucs.

Homer.

So you're a homer if you think there are some things positive about your team? Just curious, would a Titans fan be a homer if he is pleased with what he has seen in VY? Of course not. :roll:

YoJoeBucsFan
10-21-2006, 08:40 AM
Yojoe is a very pessimistic poster. I don't think he's ever said anything positive about the Buc's

What's there that's positive to say about the bucs? :roll:
Lets see...

Future at RG who was called a "reach" in the draft, played tremendous for his first start of his NFL career.
Trueblood at RT looks great, also called a reach. Future is bright for the bucs o-line.
A young RB who gets better as the game goes on and could be a top back in a couple years.
A young QB who has played great for his first 2 starts.

yea man, there's NOTHING positive to say about the bucs.

Yep, 1-4... a VERY positive start. Finally a week where our defense shows up. I say good job on the win last week and I want to beat the hell out of the Eagles.

nobodyinparticular
10-29-2006, 09:37 PM
Would anyone still say the Raiders are the worst team in the league? The offense is still bottom 2 or 3--with perhaps a good case for the worst--but their defense has been gelling and getting it done. They had 14 of their 20 points scored by the defense and they had some major stops and turnovers. After 2 absolute shellackings the 49ers must be considered the dead last team with Arizona next. Then you get into the debate of quite a few more teams like Miami, Detroit, Houston, Tennessee, Tampa Bay, and then Oakland--dare I say Pittsburgh as well?

nobodyinparticular
10-30-2006, 03:58 PM
Halfway through the season, I'm unstickying this and making a new thread. Any discussions about the current NFL season will be kept to the new Power Rankings thread.