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Cockeymofo76
07-27-2006, 04:47 AM
LJ won't have the type of season everyone is predicting here is why

1. Aging O-line and offense... Everyone has a down slope

2. Change in Coaches.. especially the loss of Saunders

3. The PSU Curse name some of the talent that has come out of the RB position that has had a good NFL career in the past 30 years

4. Defensive Awareness.. Now that he is considered the top RB (LT is not a RB he is god's gift to Marty) Defenses will be predicating their whole Defense around him

duckseason
07-27-2006, 04:57 AM
LJ won't have the type of season everyone is predicting here is why

1. Aging O-line and offense... Everyone has a down slope

2. Change in Coaches.. especially the loss of Saunders

3. The PSU Curse name some of the talent that has come out of the RB position that has had a good NFL career in the past 30 years

4. Defensive Awareness.. Now that he is considered the top RB (LT is not a RB he is god's gift to Marty) Defenses will be predicating their whole Defense around him

I disagree about a few of your points.
1. The coaching change is likely a plus. Herm Edwards will be sure to make sure LJ totes the ball plenty of times. They don't call him Herm "run on every play, even 3rd and 7" Edwards for nothin'.

2. That o-line is still one of the elite groups. Can't point to their age until it actually becomes a factor.

3. You don't think defenses have been aware of the Chiefs dominant ground game for the past few years? You think this is something new? Teams JUST NOW realized that the Chiefs like to pound it, and excel at it?

Sorry man, I just don't see it. The only things I see slowing down LJ is a major injury to either him, or a few of his steam-rollers.

steelersfan43
07-27-2006, 04:59 AM
I think he will go around 1800

07-27-2006, 07:25 AM
im gonna say hell get the same numbers he got last year.

turninandburnin1
07-27-2006, 08:17 AM
wow what do u mean teams are going to just start to focus against the Chiefs rushing attack. U do know we've had Priest Holmes for a while, right?? I agree with guy above me^^

Splat
07-27-2006, 09:18 AM
I think if he does not get hurt he will have no less then 1500 yards unless we lose a starter or two on the line i don't think he will get 2000 yards.

07-27-2006, 09:28 AM
First of all Larry Johnson isnt a top 5 back, but i do agree with you he wont do all that great. He will have a good season about 1500 yards and 20 TD's.

Smooth Criminal
07-27-2006, 09:31 AM
I don't agree at all.

The coaching change will only help as Herm loves to run.

The line is still good even with age.

The Penn State argument is pointless.

Teams knew about Priest and the couldn't stop him.

If you wanted an argument you should've pointed out that he lost his lead blocker who really did help him alot last year.

While I don't think LJ will be as good as everyone says, I don't agree with your points as to why he won't have an amazing year.

draftguru151
07-27-2006, 09:31 AM
I think he can get 2100 but probably will get around 1800.

Also in your sig it says Calvin Johnson went to South Carolina. :? And Willie Williams has no future, and why do you have Booty and Sanchez?

The Unseen
07-27-2006, 09:35 AM
I think he'll get around 1500-1600. None of this 2000 stuff.

LTgiants
07-27-2006, 10:11 AM
Cockeymofo u put the wrong college name for calvin johnson in your sig he goes to georgia tech not sc

Splat
07-27-2006, 10:32 AM
First of all Larry Johnson isnt a top 5 back, but i do agree with you he wont do all that great. He will have a good season about 1500 yards and 20 TD's.

So you call getting 1500 yards and 20 TD's just a good season?

07-27-2006, 10:34 AM
First of all Larry Johnson isnt a top 5 back, but i do agree with you he wont do all that great. He will have a good season about 1500 yards and 20 TD's.

So you call getting 1500 yards and 20 TD's just a good season?

:lol: :lol:

yea seriously if you think thats just good then you must think VERY highly of Larry

07-27-2006, 10:37 AM
First of all Larry Johnson isnt a top 5 back, but i do agree with you he wont do all that great. He will have a good season about 1500 yards and 20 TD's.

So you call getting 1500 yards and 20 TD's just a good season?

Its a pretty good season

Ravens1991
07-27-2006, 10:49 AM
I am not ready to say LJ is the next 2,000 yard rusher and stuff, I need to see him play a full season before I jump to conclusions, at this sports card show this guy said "He came in during the 2nd half of the season when defenses are wearing down and he is fresh" I realized that thats a good point and I need to see a full season.

ninerfan
07-27-2006, 01:09 PM
1400 - 1500 and 12 - 15 TD's.

Every defense will be stacked against him

Ho0k Em'
07-27-2006, 01:15 PM
1400 - 1500 and 12 - 15 TD's.

Every defense will be stacked against him

I love how people are like "they will focus on him". They focused on him last year and still couldn't stop him. They focused on Priest and they couldn't stop him. They seem to forget we still have Trent Green, Tony Gonzalez. Our O-line is still easily a top 3 O-line even with their age. I'm not worried about the loss of Saunders when it comes to the running game because we have Mike Solari who can handle all that.

Splat
07-27-2006, 01:40 PM
True Dat.

frogstomp
07-27-2006, 05:49 PM
I was getting all ready to come in here swearing and busting heads, because I thought this was another "2000 yards omg!!?!!!"

However, I don't see him getting less than 1600 yards, and 15 TD's. Other than injury. My prediction for him is 1750-1800 yards with 21 TD's. And about 303 receiving yards with 2 td's.

critesy
07-27-2006, 06:08 PM
Cockeymofo u put the wrong college name for calvin johnson in your sig he goes to georgia tech not sc

ahaha, yeah i pointed that too, it bothers me.

P-L
07-27-2006, 06:13 PM
I'll say 1600 yards and 17 TD this year. The OL is aging and he will be the main focus of defenses this year. I can't see him getting that many more carries than he did last year. Even though he only started 9 games, he was 7th in the league in carries.

portermvp84
07-27-2006, 07:09 PM
I'll say 1300 yards and 15 touchdowns, that would be insane if he rushed for 1700 yards.

duckseason
07-27-2006, 07:18 PM
I'll say 1300 yards and 15 touchdowns, that would be insane if he rushed for 1700 yards.

How so?

portermvp84
07-27-2006, 07:20 PM
I guess it's possible I don't he will get though.

duckseason
07-27-2006, 07:26 PM
I guess it's possible I don't he will get though.

Just a feeling, huh? I hear you. I really can't see him getting anything less than 1500 unless he misses some games. I don't think the loss of Richardson will automatically make that KC ground game mediocre. They are still one of (if not, the) best, IMO.
I guess we'll see though.

07-27-2006, 08:20 PM
Don't forget about him losing 100 carries to Preist Holmes.

Splat
07-27-2006, 08:27 PM
Don't forget about him losing 100 carries to Preist Holmes.

Priest is going on the PUP list Friday i think he is done.

yourfavestoner
07-27-2006, 08:51 PM
I don't buy into the LJ is overrated talk. The guy simply doesn't have any flaws in his game. He's got good speed, he's got good power, he's got good vision, he has good hands coming out of the backfield, and he has a nose for the endzone. I think he'll challenge LT and Shaun Alexander for the title of best running back in the NFL after this season. I'm no Chiefs fan or LJ leg humper, but I really think he's going to be something special. I don't know if he'll gett 2000 yards [but I think it'very possible he will], but at the very least I think he'll in contention for the league rushing title next year.

Cockeymofo76
08-11-2006, 08:51 AM
LJ won't have the type of season everyone is predicting here is why

1. Aging O-line and offense... Everyone has a down slope

2. Change in Coaches.. especially the loss of Saunders

3. The PSU Curse name some of the talent that has come out of the RB position that has had a good NFL career in the past 30 years

4. Defensive Awareness.. Now that he is considered the top RB (LT is not a RB he is god's gift to Marty) Defenses will be predicating their whole Defense around him

this is actually looking more possible with the loss of roaf

HokiesSkins2621
08-11-2006, 11:08 AM
Your right, Everybody is expect LJ to have a 2,000 Rushing Yard season. At best he'll have a 1,700 Rushing Yard season.

eazyb81
08-11-2006, 02:26 PM
Your right, Everybody is expect LJ to have a 2,000 Rushing Yard season. At best he'll have a 1,700 Rushing Yard season.

Oh my God, that would suck! LJ would be a huge bust then!!!

I'm bored, so I guess i'll bite:

1. Roaf will be a much bigger loss for Trent Green than Larry Johnson. LJ had big games when Roaf was out last year, and frankly a dominant left tackle isn't necessary for a great running game (now if Brian Waters was retiring, I would be nervous...).

2. Herm likes to run the ball a lot more than Vermeil and Saunders did, so this won't be an issue. LJ will get his touches, and Solari (the new OC, former Oline coach) is keeping the same offensive scheme.

3. Not sure why the PSU curse is still relevant, LJ's performance last year ended that little theory.

4. Great RBs are going to get their yards no matter what.

portermvp84
08-11-2006, 03:03 PM
He's gonna have a hell of a year this season, I would be shocked if he only got 1,200 yards.

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 03:08 PM
Your right, Everybody is expect LJ to have a 2,000 Rushing Yard season. At best he'll have a 1,700 Rushing Yard season.

Oh my God, that would suck! LJ would be a huge bust then!!!

I'm bored, so I guess i'll bite:

1. Roaf will be a much bigger loss for Trent Green than Larry Johnson. LJ had big games when Roaf was out last year, and frankly a dominant left tackle isn't necessary for a great running game (now if Brian Waters was retiring, I would be nervous...).

2. Herm likes to run the ball a lot more than Vermeil and Saunders did, so this won't be an issue. LJ will get his touches, and Solari (the new OC, former Oline coach) is keeping the same offensive scheme.

3. Not sure why the PSU curse is still relevant, LJ's performance last year ended that little theory.

4. Great RBs are going to get their yards no matter what.

agreed

08-11-2006, 03:16 PM
First of all Larry Johnson isnt a top 5 back, but i do agree with you he wont do all that great. He will have a good season about 1500 yards and 20 TD's.

Yes, he is.

And 1,500 yards and 20 TDs IS great.

Shiver
08-11-2006, 03:20 PM
I think his yards per carry will dip to the 4-ish range, but his carries will go up, so I expect about the same numbers from him.

Splat
08-11-2006, 03:25 PM
I love people hating on LJ it is just Fuel on the fire you just make him mad and i love when he is mad.

D4rk 0ne
08-11-2006, 05:56 PM
First of all Larry Johnson isnt a top 5 back, but i do agree with you he wont do all that great. He will have a good season about 1500 yards and 20 TD's.

Yeah those predicted numbers reflect a back who shouldn't be considered in the top 5... :roll:

I am going to say that he runs at least 1700 and up to 1900. With about 20 TDs. Also, even though Herm will run him a lot, the scheme will be different, as will the plays. His average could drop by a noticable amount, which could effect his overall numbers. I'm not saying it will though...

Komp
08-11-2006, 06:39 PM
I think LJ is a better back than Priest, but his O-line isn't as good [age + Richardson's departure]. I expect the same this year as Priest's best year [2002]. 1600 yds, 20 TD's.

PS - He IS better than Priest, don't even try to argue that. That O-line made Priest look a little better than he actually was. He was still good, but not top 5 material. LJ is without a doubt a top 5 RB. Cheers.

yourfavestoner
08-11-2006, 07:27 PM
First of all Larry Johnson isnt a top 5 back, but i do agree with you he wont do all that great. He will have a good season about 1500 yards and 20 TD's.

Yeah those predicted numbers reflect a back who shouldn't be considered in the top 5... :roll:

I am going to say that he runs at least 1700 and up to 1900. With about 20 TDs. Also, even though Herm will run him a lot, the scheme will be different, as will the plays. His average could drop by a noticable amount, which could effect his overall numbers. I'm not saying it will though...

The scheme and plays aren't changing. Edwards retained most of the offensive staff, and promoted their previous offensive coach to offensive coordinator.

RCAChainGang
08-12-2006, 01:18 AM
I love people hating on LJ it is just Fuel on the fire you just make him mad and i love when he is mad.

I agree hell come out and kill!

Dam8610
08-12-2006, 01:29 AM
I think your first 2 points are valid (especially with Roaf retiring), but your last 2 points are not (they do have a pretty good passing game that defenses can't ignore, and he proved he had talent at Penn State when he rushed for over 2000 yards when they were bad).

Splat
08-12-2006, 08:39 AM
You want is kinda crazy LJ's last year playing high school football he rushed for over 2000 yards and his last year in college he rushed for over 2000 yards it would be pretty cool to do it in the NFL to. That being said even i don't think he will not with out Roaf and T-Rich but the loss of Roaf is going to hurt Green way more then LJ.