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ThePudge
04-16-2007, 09:27 AM
Hey, just offering a different look at the draft. Like on draft day, they'll be some picks that will have you scratching your head. Please offer constructive insight. I've tried to focus on fits/needs rather than value for much of the picks. Let me know what you think.

1. Oakland Raiders: Calvin Johnson - WR - Georgia Tech
2. Detroit Lions: Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame
3. Cleveland Browns: JaMarcus Russell - QB - LSU
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson
5. Arizona Cardinals: Joe Thomas - OT - Wisconsin
6. Washington Redskins: LaRon Landry - S - LSU
7. Minnesota Vikings: Adrian Peterson - RB - Oklahoma
8. Atlanta Falcons (f/HOU): Levi Brown - OT - Penn State
9. Miami Dolphins: Leon Hall - CB - Michigan
10. Houston Texans (f/ATL): Amobi Okoye - DT - Louisville
11. San Francisco 49'ers: Patrick Willis - LB - Mississippi
12. Buffalo Bills: Paul Posluszny - LB - Penn State
13. St. Louis Rams: Ted Ginn Jr. - WR - Ohio State
14. Carolina Panthers: Joe Staley - OT - Central Michigan
15. Pittsburgh Steelers: Alan Branch - DT/DE - Michigan
16. Green Bay Packers: Greg Olsen - TE - Miami
17. Jacksonville Jaguars: Reggie Nelson - S - Florida
18. Cincinnati Bengals: Jamaal Anderson - DE - Arkansas
19. Tennessee Titans: Marshawn Lynch - RB - California
20. New York Giants: Jon Beason - LB - Miami
21. Denver Broncos: Adam Carriker - DE - Nebraska
22. Dallas Cowboys: Robert Meachem - WR - Tennessee
23. Kansas City Chiefs: Darrelle Revis - CB - Pittsburgh
24. New England Patriots (f/SEA): Chris Houston - CB - Arkansas
25. New York Jets: Anthony Spencer - OLB - Purdue
26. Philadelphia Eagles: Justin Harrell - DT - Tennessee
27. New Orleans Saints: Aaron Ross - CB - Texas
28. New England Patriots: Michael Griffin - S - Texas
29. Baltimore Ravens: Dwayne Jarrett - WR - USC
30. San Diego Chargers: Dwayne Bowe - WR - LSU
31. Chicago Bears: Ben Grubbs - G - Auburn
32. Indianapolis Colts: Lawrence Timmons - OLB - Florida State

SECOND ROUND

33. Oakland Raiders: Ryan Kalil - C - USC
34. Detroit Lions: David Harris - MLB - Michigan
35. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Steve Smith - WR - USC
36. Cleveland Browns: Marcus McCauley - CB - Fresno State
37. Chicago Bears (f/WAS/NYJ): Zach Miller - TE - Arizona State
38. Arizona Cardinals: Justin Blalock - OG - Texas
39. Atlanta Falcons (f/HOU): Jarvis Moss - DE - Florida
40. Miami Dolphins: Craig Davis - WR - LSU
41. Minnesota Vikings: Anthony Gonzalez - WR - Ohio State
42. San Francisco 49'ers: Sidney Rice - WR - South Carolina
43. Buffalo Bills: Antonio Pittman - RB - Ohio State
44. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Meriweather - CB/S - Miami
45. Carolina Panthers: Tim Crowder - DE - Texas
46. Pittsburgh Steelers: Tanard Jackson - CB/S - Syracuse
47. Green Bay Packers: Kenny Irons - RB - Auburn
48. Jacksonville Jaguars: Trent Edwards - QB - Stanford
49. Cincinnati Bengals: Justin Durant - LB - Hampton
50. Tennessee Titans: Josh Wilson - CB - Maryland
51. New York Giants: Jason Hill - WR - Washington State
52. St. Louis Rams: Charles Johnson - DE - Georgia
53. Dallas Cowboys: Arron Sears - OG/OT - Tennessee
54. Kansas City Chiefs: Tony Ugoh - OT/OG - Arkansas
55. Seattle Seahawks: Marshal Yanda - OG - Iowa
56. Denver Broncos: Tim Shaw - OLB - Penn State
57. Philadelphia Eagles: Victor Abiamiri - DE - Notre Dame
58. New Orleans Saints: Brandon Mebane - DT - California
59. New York Jets: Ikaika Alama-Francis - DE - Hawaii
60. Miami Dolphins (f/NE): Ray McDonald - DT/DE - Florida
61. Baltimore Ravens: Eric Wright - CB - UNLV
62. San Diego Chargers: Eric Weddle - S - Utah
63. New York Jets (f/CHI): Brian Leonard - RB/FB - Rutgers
64. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (f/IND): Quincy Black - LB - New Mexico

THIRD ROUND

65. Oakland Raiders: Ben Patrick - TE - Delaware
66. Detroit Lions: James Marten - OT - Boston College
67. Cleveland Browns: DeMarcus "Tank" Tyler - NT - North Carolina State
68. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Usama Young - CB - Kent State
69. Arizona Cardinals: Stephen Nicholas - OLB - South Florida
70. Denver Broncos (f/WAS): Quentin Moses - DE - Georgia
71. Miami Dolphins: John Beck - QB - BYU
72. Minnesota Vikings: Brian Robison - DE/OLB - Texas
73. Houston Texans: Lorenzo Booker - RB - Florida State
74. Buffalo Bills: LaMarr Woodley -DE - Michigan
75. Atlanta Falcons: Aundrae Allison - WR - East Carolina
76. San Francisco 49'ers: Stewart Bradley - OLB - Nebraska
77. Pittsburgh Steelers: Brandon Jackson - RB - Nebraska
78. Green Bay Packers: Gerald Alexander - S - Boise State
79. Jacksonville Jaguars: Dan Bazuin - DE - Central Michigan
--. Cincinnati Bengals: Used on Ahmad Brooks in the Supplemental Draft
80. Tennessee Titans: Paul Williams - WR - Fresno State
81. New York Giants: Jonathan Wade - CB - Tennessee
82. St. Louis Rams: Brandon Siler - LB - Florida
83. Carolina Panthers: Josh Gattis - S - Wake Forest
84. Kansas City Chiefs: David Clowney - WR - Virginia Tech
85. Seattle Seahawks: Scott Chandler - TE - Iowa
86. Denver Broncos: Sabby Piscitelli - S - Oregon State
87. Dallas Cowboys: David Irons - CB - Auburn
88. New Orleans Saints: Mike Walker - WR - Central Florida
89. New York Jets: Daymeion Hughes - CB - California
90. Philadelphia Eagles: Martrez Milner - TE - Georgia
91. New England Patriots: Anthony Waters - ILB - Clemson
92. Buffalo Bills (f/BAL): Fred Bennett - CB - South Carolina
93. San Diego Chargers: Andy Alleman - OG - Akron
94. Chicago Bears: Rufus Alexander - OLB - Oklahoma
95. Indianapolis Colts: Quinn Pitcock - DT - Ohio State
96. San Diego Chargers (comp): Zak DeOssie - ILB - Brown
97. San Francisco 49'ers (comp): Michael Coe - CB/S - Alabama State
98. Indianapolis Colts (comp): Antwan Barnes - DE - Florida International
99. Oakland Raiders (comp): Dwayne Wright - RB - Fresno State

Notes:

If I were a San Diego fan, I'd be doing backflips for this draft. The team filled needs and got tremendous value with every pick except at 96 with Zak DeOssie. Bowe and Weddle could come in and start from Day One for a team that was 14-2 a year ago.

The Atlanta Falcons ignore character to take two talented players in the second round in Florida's Jarvis Moss and Miami's Brandon Meriweather. They got great value in the 2nd and filled needs, but still have to be cautious about taking two players with known character issues. 3rd Round pick Aundrae Allison is also known to be a bit immature.

The Bills continue to draft exactly how they want to and to fit their system. Word is, the Bills have fallen in love with Paul Posluszny, who is a small reach at 12. The Bills have been depleted at LB this offseason and Posluszny can play any LB position. They skip over Lynch and his character concerns.

The Packers draft isn't flashy but it fills holes. Greg Olsen will stretch the field at TE and will give Favre the option at Tight End that he's really never had with Green Bay. Kenny Irons is a guy the Packers are interested in and he fits the system. Gerald Alexander's stock is rising fast and his stock could peak in the 3rd Round.

Tampa Bay's draft is as strange, but as strong and diverse, as anyone's, Gaines Adams, Steve Smith, Quincy Black, Usama Young. Each player the Bucs picked is on the rise. Black and Young, the Bucs last two picks, in particular are rising fast. Young may very well be gone by this point, and Black may too. Both could be surprising Top 50 picks.

Dallas' draft is great as usual. Each of Dallas' three picks comes with good value. Robert Meachem reminds some of Javon Walker, and could be a Top 20 value. Arron Sears slips a bit and falls to the Cowboys at 53, a Top 45 value. David Irons slips to 87 where the Cowboys grab him, a Top 75 value.

The Raiders go all offense with their four offensive picks with Calvin Johnson obviously the most notable pick. A good Center can really do a lot for an offense, and Kalil is the best in this draft, a good value at 33. Ben Patrick fills a need and provides Andrew Walter with another target. Dwayne Wright, an underrated back, can be used right away as a power back and could eventually become Oakland's starting back.

The Giants are another team that really get away with a tremendous draft class in Jon Beason, Jason Hill, and Jonathan Wade. Each pick provides value and fits into New York's needs.

More to come...

Enjoy!

Bengals1690
04-16-2007, 09:29 AM
you focosed on needs, but DE is not a need for the bengals. neither is justin durant. the bengals will draft a corner in round one or two, unless al the decent ones are gone.

hugegmenfan
04-16-2007, 09:33 AM
very good giants draft

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 09:39 AM
you focosed on needs, but DE is not a need for the bengals. neither is justin durant. the bengals will draft a corner in round one or two, unless al the decent ones are gone.

I'm a Bengals fan. I know where you are coming from. Anderson is a great value at 18, and will fill a need. Justin Smith is on a 1 year deal and may end up costing too much to bring back in 2008-09. Bryan Robinson is aging. Rucker is unproven. Robert Geathers is great, but I don't think he's an every down player yet. Anderson is an elite physical specimen who can really rush the passer. Pass Defense starts with the pass rush. If we can get to the QB 40-45 times this year, our pass defense will be much, much better. The Packers were the only team with 40+ sacks that finished in the bottom half of the league in pass defense, at 17th.

Justin Durant is a great fit, and it's well known that Marvin Lewis loves him. Durant is fast, athletic, and though he's a bit undersized, he's very good against the run.

I'd like a Corner in the First Day, as it is probably our most pressing need, but we have to make sure the fit and value are there. Watch for Aaron Ross in the 1st or Usama Young in the 2nd Round. Though they'd be small reaches, each fit and we have expressed interest in both.

JPF
04-16-2007, 09:40 AM
For the Panthers...

1st rd- OT isn't a 1st round need. We need guys that can come in and start right away at both safety and TE.

2nd rd- see 1st rd. If there's not a player of those two positions on the board thats good value, I could see us taking a DE/LB here, but probably only if we can't find someone to trade down with.

3rd rd- Even if we take a safety in the 1st/2nd (which we really should), there is still a small possibility we take another safety in the 3rd, our coach is on the record as saying he'd like to take two safeties in the draft (one to start this year and one to groom for 08 with Minter retiring after this season), though it's likely it'd be later in the draft that we'd take a second safety.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 09:52 AM
For the Panthers...

1st rd- OT isn't a 1st round need. We need guys that can come in and start right away at both safety and TE.

2nd rd- see 1st rd. If there's not a player of those two positions on the board thats good value, I could see us taking a DE/LB here, but probably only if we can't fit someone to trade down with.

3rd rd- Even if we take a safety in the 1st/2nd (which we really should), there is still a small possibility we take another safety in the 3rd, our coach is on the record as saying he'd like to take two safeties in the draft (one to start this year and one to groom for 08 with Minter retiring after this season), though it's likely it'd be later in the draft that we'd take a second safety.

The Panthers were a team I was shaky on. I like Staley at 14, he has the rare potential to be a Franchise LT that you don't usually find out of the Top 5-10. I actually like him a bit more than Levi Brown. I belive he can come in and start right away, though he may not reach his full potential for a few years. Reggie Nelson, Jon Beason and Greg Olsen were considered here, but I think Staley's upside makes him the top pick here. The Panthers may have to wait years before they can get their hands on a LT with the upside and athletic ability of Joe Staley.

Tim Crowder is a decent but not great value there. He's not a flashy guy, but he gets the job done and plays both the run and pass. He surprised everyone with a very good showing at the Combine. I like the fit there alongside Julius Peppers, though it may be a year or two before Crowder carcks the starting lineup.

I like Gattis, and he's a local product. He's a guy who played a brilliant college career and has shown the athleticism to carry over some of that success. Some see him as an in the box safety, but I believe he could surprise some people. A decent value pick there.

I don't think the Panthers draft will wow anyone, but it's an interesting group of players. Each could be starting for Carolina 2-3 years down the road and all three have some upside, especially Staley.

Luckily for the Panthers, this year's Tight End class is fairly deep and they may be able to pick up a contributor in the 4th Round. As far as Linebacker is concerned, I just never liked the value I saw. I'm not as high on Eric Weddle as some, which is why I opted to go with Crowder in the 2nd, who I feel is a better value. Michael Coe from Alabama State is a CB/S tweener to keep an eye on.

RaiderNation
04-16-2007, 10:02 AM
1st GREAT

2nd good

3rd good, could be James Marten

3rd bad, DE and DT are bigger needs than RB now since we got rhodes and already have jordan

JPF
04-16-2007, 10:02 AM
Don't get me wrong, I like Staley to some degree but safety is much more of an immediate need. We seriously have no one to start at one safety spot (to give you an idea, if the season started tomorrow...Deke Cooper would probably be a starter), it'd be very hard to imagine the Panthers not taking Reggie Nelson if he were there.

You could make a similar argument for Olsen giving the emphasis the new OC wants to put on the TE in the passing game, especially when it's widely speculated that Keyshawn will be gone after the 07 season as well, meaning our top two receiving threats in 08 would then be Steve Smith and Drew Carter. I expect we'll take Nelson if he's there and if he's not we'll take Olsen (though the way this offseason has went for us, nothing would honestly surprise me).

Crowder in the 2nd and Gattis in the 3rd I could definately live with, but we pretty much have to come out of day one with a safety that can come in and start right away.

G-Men88
04-16-2007, 10:02 AM
EXCELENT Giants draft. Well done

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 10:08 AM
1st GREAT

2nd good

3rd good, could be James Marten

3rd bad, DE and DT are bigger needs than RB now since we got rhodes and already have jordan

I originally had Marten at that 3rd Round pick, but I wondered how much help another rookie O-Lineman could be. I think the Raiders best bet is to pick up a short term free agent and draft an offensive weapon like Patrick who could help the team right away.

That other 3rd Round pick was tough for me. I looked Defensive End, and I didn't see anyone that really stood out to me. Then I looked DT, same story. I saw Wright as a decent value and the only back left in this draft with eventual starter potential.

Acreboy
04-16-2007, 12:03 PM
Saints

It's different and I like it

PalmerToCJ
04-16-2007, 12:18 PM
I'm not sure what to think of Jamaal Anderson. Honestly I don't see it happening, Marvin seems very high in Frostee Rucker and a 3rd rounder is a pretty decent investment. I just don't think I see him going DE and giving Rucker a chance to prove himself this year.

I would rather see Weddle in the 2nd but that's not to say it would happen.

alexschnarr
04-16-2007, 12:46 PM
i cant complain with the 49ers draft, nice work

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 01:03 PM
I'm not sure what to think of Jamaal Anderson. Honestly I don't see it happening, Marvin seems very high in Frostee Rucker and a 3rd rounder is a pretty decent investment. I just don't think I see him going DE and giving Rucker a chance to prove himself this year.

I would rather see Weddle in the 2nd but that's not to say it would happen.

Honestly, I think it makes sense, but I agree, I don't see it happening. That's the only part where I switched some picks around to make it all work for me. Originally I had Jon Beason at 18, which is the player I see us taking there. But with that, I had Anderson at 21 and Carriker at 25. Carriker at 25 specifically had me shaking my head, so I went back and switched a few things up. Without trades it's hard to keep every player around their value, so I did the best I could there.

Marvin Lewis is very big on Durant, and loves Linebackers. I think, if we were to go DL or a DB in the 1st, it'd be a LB in the 2nd. Durant is a decent value there and fits the system well.

If I were to go with Beason, like I planned to, at 18, I'd most likely go DB in the 2nd. However, it wouldn't be Weddle. I'm not a big Weddle fan, and I think he's a 3rd Round value. I think it'd be Kent State's Usama Young. Very athletic, great measurables, a lot of production, he's one of this draft's fastest risers. The Bengals are reported interested.

fenikz
04-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Give the Cards Meriweather or Moss in the 2nd

thebow305
04-16-2007, 01:26 PM
Bad phins draft, only good pick is Craig Davis, rest is garbage.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 01:38 PM
Bad phins draft, only good pick is Craig Davis, rest is garbage.

Excellent insight, I feel like I learned a lot about the Dolphins schemes and team. That post will inspire me to change every Dolphins pick EXCEPT Craig Davis, because you think that's a good pick.

Leon Hall is the draft's best corner and has the experience and athleticism to play in any system. Hall happens to be a great fit for the Dolphins, who play an equal amount of man and zone defense. Hall is a Top 15 value and wouldn't be considered a reach at 9, where as Ted Ginn and Joe Staley, two other options, provide less value than Hall.

John Beck is one of the draft's fast risers and could actually come right in and compete for the starting job. The Dolphins are expected to pick up Trent Green, who is a short term option. Beck offers a good value at 71 and helps the Dolphins with their QB crisis. As a backup and eventual starter.

Go_Eagles77
04-16-2007, 02:09 PM
Not a good eagles mock, C. If you gave us Griffin in the 1st and Fred Bennett in the 3rd it'd be an A+.

Jay
04-16-2007, 02:11 PM
The Patriots would take Zak DeOssie over Anthony Waters.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 02:37 PM
Not a good eagles mock, C. If you gave us Griffin in the 1st and Fred Bennett in the 3rd it'd be an A+.

It's tough projecting the Eagles to draft a 3rd DT in 3 years, but after Bunkley's year one performance (or lack there of...) and the loss of Dawin Walker, they may have to. Mike Patterson is a good player, but he is undersized and more of a rotational player. Harrell is an underrated player who would be a great value at 26. He's big, tough, and unlike Bunkley, could come in right away and play.

Milner is a pick I don't even like there. However, the Eagles like to load the TE position and use them in the passing game a lot. Milner is a good receiving TE with some athleticism. LJ Smith's contract is up after the season, so a replacement must be groomed if the team doesn't plan to resign him.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 02:38 PM
The Patriots would take Zak DeOssie over Anthony Waters.

Hmm, why exactly do you feel that way?

T-RICH49
04-16-2007, 03:20 PM
NICE KC draft

princefielder28
04-16-2007, 04:05 PM
You filled most of Green Bay's needs

JCutlery
04-16-2007, 04:36 PM
That's a very good Denver draft. Nice job. Tim Shaw is the only questionable pick, because I think he projects more as a WILL in a 4-3, and we have plenty of those. So I'd prefer Stewart Bradley or Quincy Black. But, very nice overall mock.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 05:34 PM
That's a very good Denver draft. Nice job. Tim Shaw is the only questionable pick, because I think he projects more as a WILL in a 4-3, and we have plenty of those. So I'd prefer Stewart Bradley or Quincy Black. But, very nice overall mock.

Shaw was actually the only guy I was a little unsure of there. I see Shaw as a SAM, I'm pretty sure that's where he played in college. I'm not positive though.

JCutlery
04-16-2007, 05:39 PM
Shaw was actually the only guy I was a little unsure of there. I see Shaw as a SAM, I'm pretty sure that's where he played in college. I'm not positive though.

It's not a bad pick, but Stewart Bradley (best SAM in draft) is available too.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 05:44 PM
It's not a bad pick, but Stewart Bradley (best SAM in draft) is available too.

Yea, I was just playing the momentum game with that one. Tim Shaw is on the rise after an excellent pro Day, whereas Bradley has shown slightly below average athleticism. Will Shaw go ahead of Bradley? Probably not, but it's conceivable. I just thought, judging by Denver's current LB's, they valued athleticism and speed a good deal.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-16-2007, 05:51 PM
Cowboys would take Tank Tyler in the second to be groomed as a NT and would add needed depth there. other than that its good.

Matthew Jones
04-16-2007, 05:52 PM
Excellent job in the first round for New England. I would prefer DeOssie over Waters, Anthony has some very mixed reviews and I wouldn't spend a day one pick on a guy who was a fringe day one pick at best before going down for the year.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 07:45 PM
Cowboys would take Tank Tyler in the second to be groomed as a NT and would add needed depth there. other than that its good.

Personally, I feel because of issues with his work ethic and attitude, Tyler is a 3rd Rounder at best, with more of a chance to slide to the 4th Round than to sneak into the 2nd. Sears is a value pick there and can play nearly any position on the line, though he is best suited inside at Guard. Paul Soliai from Utah is Dallas' best option in the 4th, or possibly Tyler if he falls to their pick in the 3rd. Still, I believe Tank Tyler is a big time risk because of character and motivation issues. He's this year's Gabe Watson, talented prospect that simply takes plays off and doesn't always play up to his ability, he could easily fall to the 2nd Day completely.

49erfaithful
04-16-2007, 07:49 PM
Good SF mock, i would like to see a DE get drafted though

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Excellent job in the first round for New England. I would prefer DeOssie over Waters, Anthony has some very mixed reviews and I wouldn't spend a day one pick on a guy who was a fringe day one pick at best before going down for the year.

Waters offers an impressive track record in college, and though he missed the entire season last year, he posted good numbers in his workout. He has a lot of tools. He's a big guy with instincts and is a great tackler. He's best suited inside in the 3-4 as his range as a LB is nothing special, but as I said, he's big, smart, and a very good tackler. I like Waters as a Late 3rd-Early 4th Round guy. Can't say I know much past what I've read in scouting reports about DeOssie.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 07:54 PM
Good SF mock, i would like to see a DE get drafted though

I'd like to see the 49ers grab a DE too. I think Carriker's their guy if Patrick Willis isn't there. Still, at 11 it'd a matter of value. After that, it's a matter of fit. Tennessee's Turk McBride in the 3rd is an option if the team goes with a 3-4 front, as is Baraka Atkins in the 4th.

jackalope
04-16-2007, 08:30 PM
I would much prefer Lynch in the 1st, but Olsen is the 2nd best pick. 2nd round is pretty good, but i don't want to see us take a safety after round 1.

ThePudge
04-16-2007, 08:41 PM
I would much prefer Lynch in the 1st, but Olsen is the 2nd best pick. 2nd round is pretty good, but i don't want to see us take a safety after round 1.

Lynch drops for me because of character issues, ironically to the Titans, who are just desprate. I think the Packers have two options at RB in the 2nd who really fit their system well in Kenny Irons and Antonio Pittman.

thebow305
04-16-2007, 08:55 PM
Excellent insight, I feel like I learned a lot about the Dolphins schemes and team. That post will inspire me to change every Dolphins pick EXCEPT Craig Davis, because you think that's a good pick.

Leon Hall is the draft's best corner and has the experience and athleticism to play in any system. Hall happens to be a great fit for the Dolphins, who play an equal amount of man and zone defense. Hall is a Top 15 value and wouldn't be considered a reach at 9, where as Ted Ginn and Joe Staley, two other options, provide less value than Hall.

John Beck is one of the draft's fast risers and could actually come right in and compete for the starting job. The Dolphins are expected to pick up Trent Green, who is a short term option. Beck offers a good value at 71 and helps the Dolphins with their QB crisis. As a backup and eventual starter.

You want insight? fine.

Leon Hall is more of a zone corner with a slight ability to play man-to-man, but certainly not the top man cover corner in the draft, and with that being said, he is certainly not worth our 9th overall pick. And no, we do not play very much zone coverage, if at all. We play man about 90% of the time. If you wanted to go that direction, with a corner, Chris Houston would be the overall better selection there. As he is the top man cover corner in this draft. But with Jason Allen playing mostly at corner and projected to play there in 2007, our need for a corner is not as glaring now. Our need for a top, young, playmaking safety is though. Which is why, for a DB, Reggie Nelson, or Landry (If available) are way better picks at number nine.

Staley is being looked at more and more as a top tier NFL Left Tackle prospect and a top 15-20 pick. SO taking him at nine may be a little bit of a reach, but not much, because it fills a huge area of need for us as well.

Ginn is the second most talented and explosive playmaker in this draft and is very easily considered a top 15 pick as well, and would provide great playmaking value at the number 9 spot.

Personally, if Quinn fell to us, that would be my pick. Or Landry. But with those two being gone, as I fully expect them to be, I believe Ginn or Staley will be the pick, I also wouldn't mind Reggie Nelson as well.

Homicide
04-17-2007, 01:31 PM
I like Timmons to the Colts.

JCutlery
04-17-2007, 02:28 PM
I just thought, judging by Denver's current LB's, they valued athleticism and speed a good deal.

Good point, and they do. Bradley is also getting a lot of interest from 3-4 teams, which leads me to believe he may not be quick enough for our scheme. But, both picks have negatives/positives, so I'd be happy with either one.

T-RICH49
04-17-2007, 08:55 PM
not a bad Chiefs mock

ThePudge
04-17-2007, 09:06 PM
not a bad Chiefs mock

Personally, I like Revis, Ugoh, and Clowney for KC. I may consider switching Revis and Houston in the 1st, I think Houston is a great fit in KC and you could make an argument for him over Revis. Either fits, fills a need, and is a good value. Ugoh has the versatility to play a few positions on the line and is a solid value there. Clowney seems like a nice fit in KC, and fills a need. He's an underrated prospect who was under-utilized at Virginia Tech.

T-RICH49
04-17-2007, 09:26 PM
actually I like Revis more the Houston and I like Hoston a LOT.IMHO Revis is the best CB in the draft and if he fell to 23 I would hope we'd take him

whiterat29
04-17-2007, 09:43 PM
i dont see DB as a day one need for the steelers, maybe in the third but probably not the second...Ike Taylor had a couple bad games, Bryant McFadden is going to be a stud, Townsend is serviceable and is a great blitzer from the slot, Rico Colclough does still have some up side (just not as a returner).....they just resigned Tyrone Carter, Signed Ryan Clark last year and played well, drafted Anthony Smith last year in the third and he'll probably be the starter next season and of course Troy....

i would love to get Branch in the first....if we did in the second the Steelers are going to almost have to take a 'tweener...and in your mock my favorite is still on the board, i would take Charles Johnson...personally not a hugh fan of Jackson but i guess its not a pick i would be pissed at....with out them picking up Brian Leonard, i would look for them to pick up Dwayne Wright...they did have him in for an interview....i'd be pretty happy with Paul Williams at that point or if you want to go corner any of the three you have at the bottom of the third would do...Hughes, Bennett or Coe...

but i did dig this draft, totally different and its really not to far fetched...

Caddy
04-18-2007, 04:14 AM
Tampa's draft is "strange", it is bad. We don't need a Day 1 LB or CB or a Day 1 receiver that does not drop further than expected.

reinar
04-18-2007, 05:03 AM
lions will draft DE, MLB, with first 2 picks, and then 3rd pick will be QB/CB/OT. of course, the first 2 picks will vary alot cause they could draft a Cj, and then trade him

jsthomp2006
04-18-2007, 09:11 AM
dig the broncos draft...but i think in 2nd they try to get david harris from michigan...he is al wilson but faster.

ThePudge
04-18-2007, 04:05 PM
Tampa's draft is "strange", it is bad. We don't need a Day 1 LB or CB or a Day 1 receiver that does not drop further than expected.

Personally I thought Tampa Bay's draft was one of the more realistic. Calvin Johnson is the ideal pick, and Gruden loves Okoye, but Adams is a better value at 4 and fills a big need for the Bucs. With Joey Galloway aging and Michael Clayton not playing up to standards he set his rookie season, the team could use both talent and depth at WR. Smith may not be a #1, but there are some who feel the polished, productive USC receiver is a 1st Rounder. The team needs an upgrade in the passing game, and Smith would help that. The Linebacker core is aging and Quincy Black is a great fit in the Tampa-2, he's on the rise and could easily go higher. Usama Young is another prospect on the rise. He's got the size, athleticism and speed to be effective in almost any system, though he's better in zone coverage. He has the versatility to play Safety if asked to.

Personally, if I was a Bucs fan I think I'd be pretty happy. Every prospect they snagged is on the rise and all could contribute this year or in the next couple years.

ThePudge
04-18-2007, 04:07 PM
dig the broncos draft...but i think in 2nd they try to get david harris from michigan...he is al wilson but faster.

Oh, I'm sure they would love to land Harris. Unfortunately for them, he will probably be long gone, as I have there.

LitoSheppard
04-18-2007, 04:11 PM
First round: MICHAEL GRIFFIN
Second Round: BUSTER DAVIS OR BRIAN LEANORD
Third Round: FRED BENNET/ ANY CB

ThePudge
04-18-2007, 04:26 PM
First round: MICHAEL GRIFFIN
Second Round: BUSTER DAVIS OR BRIAN LEANORD
Third Round: FRED BENNET/ ANY CB

That's what you'd like. Not usually how Andy Reid likes to draft though. Let me take you back... First Rounders

2003: DE Jerome McDougle
2004: OT/OG Shawn Andrews
2005: DT Mike Patterson
2006: DT Brodrick Bunkley

He focuses on the Offensive and Defensive lines. The Eagles just lost Darwin Walker, who was perhaps their top interior d-lineman last season. Mike Patterson is a good player, but he's small and more of a rotational player. Bunkley didn't prove he could hold a starting spot last season. The team needs help on that DL, whether it be through Free Agency or the draft. Since the draft is what I'm trying to predict here, I have the Eagles selecting Justin Harrell. Harrell is a fine value at 26 and could have been a Top 15-20 pick if he had not been hurt.

I agree, Griffin makes the most sense, and is a good value. The fit is there and Griffin has the versatility to play either Safety position; I'm just counting on the Eagles to draft like they typically do.

rockio42
04-18-2007, 09:35 PM
u disgust me TED GINN JR.!!!! r u serious

have u heard of Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Drew Bennet, Steven Jackson, & Randy McMichael

we dont need any other people to catch the ball we need a d that can stop people from doing that

ripdw27
04-18-2007, 09:47 PM
beauty denver mock

snee51
04-18-2007, 10:31 PM
With Carriker still on the board when the Steelers pick at 15, i do not think that they can pass him up. He is a hard worker with a motor that is always running and would fit into either the 3-4 or 4-3 (which ever the Steelers choose). I also think that Branch has bust potential. We also have Casey Hampton, who I've heard is very good.