San Francisco- all hype?

[49ersfan_87]

With all the FA signings ("80 million" clements deal, michael lewis, etc) and late season wins over denver and seattle, i think SF is getting a lot of hype. They're being picked as a team to win the division. Of course, this leads to a little bit of a bad taste in some peoples mouths as it reminds them of the cardinals and dolphins of years past, teams that were hyped but fell way below expectations. My question to you is, do you think the 49ers are all hype, or is there substance?

[Vikes99ej]

I think they could definitely find themselves second in that division. It all depends on the developement of Alex Smith and the WR situation. If Smith makes as much improvement as he made last year, I can see the Niners going 9-7 or maybe 10-6.

[bigbluedefense]

I need to see their draft first.

But as of right now, I think its more hype than substance. Frank Gore needs a back to relieve some pressure off of him. Smith needs a WR. Smith needs to take the next step himself.

The defense needs help. Clements helps, but Michael Lewis is a JAG. They need another pass rusher, they need a DT. Cain is solid, I liked that signing, but he's not a difference maker.

It depends on health and development really. No team is out of it per se, so its hard to say.

They need a good draft. Right now, theres alot of holes. I think theyre 2 years away. This year they make more progress, but they should make a splash in 08/09

[Splat]

I could see them sinking in a wild card birth if Alex Smith steps in up and Gore stays on the field but they will be one and done at best.

[M.O.T.H.]

They need that go to guy... Lelie is not a number one and Battle should not be starting, IMO. Perhaps they should have threw some money Stallworth's way... I dont like the WR situation at all. Alex Smith really needs some weapons if they want him to grow. Who knows, maybe they'll draft a WR in the 1st but, i dont think that will be enough to get them into the playoffs this year.

[FloridaFootball]

I'd like to see the 49ers have a good season with Alex Smith throwing 30+ TD's

[umphrey]

They have the potential but there is less than a 50% chance that leads to results. I wouldn't expect a division win for a year or 2 while they get a system in place and start to figure out which players work and which don't, and establish a 'core' team which they don't really have right now.

[Stash]

The only reason I think they have a chance is because they are in a really weak division. If they make the playoffs, they will get knocked out immediately.

[BigDawg819]

Until the season starts, the 49ers are all hype. I like what Mike Nolan is doing out on the west coast and has them moving in the right direction. My problem is the fact that Norv Turner left so how will Smith and the offense respond?

[tom]

they're a few pieces away from being a contender, but I could see them slip into the playoffs.

I'd like to see them pick a guy like Ted Ginn Jr. in the first round

[portermvp84]

I think depending on their draft, their substance. So far I see them having a chance to win their divsion, if not win they'll get second.

[bsaza2358]

The 49ers finished the season with some clutch wins, and Alex Smith proved himself to be a solid NFL QB. His leap forward in his second year was rather impressive. Of course, he still needs more weapons, and Vernon Davis needs to emerge as a legitimate threat. Frank Gore has a smaller than average window of success due to his injury history. Regardless, the 49ers have to develop a legitimate passing attack to take the pressure off of Gore. The deep WR pool in the draft augers well for the Niners.

In terms of coaching, I really like how Mike Nolan does his job. He has built a team on his own terms, and his guys really play hard for him. His defense has gotten better and better each season. I think this unit will carry the team this year. The Niners need to learn how to win, and I think that is coming this season.

Overall, the NFC West is pretty much up for grabs, and I expect the Niners to make a push for it. They have a lot of hype, but the talent and coaching is really there to back it up.

[Don Vito]

If they got Carriker/Landry in the first and a guy like Jarret fell to them in the second, I think they could receive immediate help at those 2 positions which would help them greatly. The niners have really drafted well the last 2 years (in my opinion) and the results are starting to show. The FA accquisitions they made can only help also.

[bsaza2358]

I agree that SF needs at least 1 impact player out of this draft. Their first round pick needs to be a guy who can play immediately. The second rounder cannot bust. It will take a lot of pieces falling into place for the 49ers to make that leap, but it happens all the time. They play in the NFC, they have a weaker schedule, and there are no clear-cut favorites in the NFC West right now. I like Nolan's coaching, and I think they can make the leap. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty confident about the Niners' chances.

[Geo]

Even though I think the defense will improve thanks to some of the FA signings and Mike Nolan continuing to build the unit in his image, I could very well see the team taking a step back, or at least not taking a step forward, with the loss of Norv Turner. He was not only critical for Alex Smith, but for Frank Gore as well.

[bsaza2358]

Norv Turner was important, but his leaving doesn't mean the team will be in shambles. There is plenty of coaching talent there. They need to develop rapport with the offensive players, but this is definitely possible.

[princefielder28]

It's hype right now but it could be substance if they'd find themselves a wideout that can play.

[THIZZorDIE]

The 49ers could definetly win the division this upcoming season. That said so coud any of the other teams in the division. The NFC West is ripe and ready for the taking. The 9ers handled the Seahawks in both games last year, yet they were handled by the Arizona Cardinals.

The signings of Clements, Banta Cain, Lewis, Franklin, and Lelie will help a great deal. The 49ers now have a big strong core, that needs few additions before reaching full capacity. Another WR is definetly in order, upgrade @ ILB, and a more commanding D-Line is a necesity.

But the 49ers are no longer a dog team by any means. They are a young team and will continue to develop steadily. Over 90% of the team showed up to the Off-Season program. Leaders will emerge in Vernon Davis, and especially Manny Lawson. They playoffs is the goal for this team and is very feasible. Just dont expect them to win a snowy, windy, playoff game in Chicago. At least not yet anyway-

[Geo]

If you think the team won't struggle when it replaces one of the consistently great offensive coordinators for over a decade in Norv Turner with quarterbacks-coach-turned-first-time-pro-offensive-coordinator Jim Hostler, with a young team no less, you're being naive about the situation.

[M.O.T.H.]

Well I love the defensive potential and they couldnt find a better man to coach them. Like i said before, offensivly they are lacking that #1, Lelie is not the guy. Given another solid draft and the addition of a true #1... The 2008 season will mark their return to the playoffs, IMO.

[bsaza2358]

That is a fair assessment. I think that there is enough talent out there, plus the presence of Vernon Davis, that SF can win with defense, ball control, and some big plays. They definitely need a WR on Day 1, and that player has to contribute right away for SF to really be a player. I think they have a shot this year if things come together.

[PACKmanN]

they still have holes on the dline and face it, Michael Lewis is not the answer which leaves a hole in there SS/FS. There offence isnt even consider deadly, they dont have a 2nd running back to come in and give Gore some time to relax( not even LT can stay on the feild for the full game. ) there WR crop isnt even worth talking about and there o-line will take a hit with losing Allen and Smiley next year. Now I dont understand how Smith has to have a perfect offence so he can be perfect. Perfect Qbs make something out of nothing.

[bsaza2358]

If only the 49ers had a decent RB/flex player in Michael Robinson, who filled in fine for them last season, plus enough draft picks to address this potential concern on 4/28/07. Michael Lewis is a fine defender if you limit his coverage responsibilities. He is not the total answer, but he is an improvement. The WR's are a concern, but if Vernon Davis can develop, he can become a significant weapon for them. The WR issues have already been addressed as a concern, and I expect the 49ers to take care of it in Round 1 or 2. Alex Smith will get better, and the D will do enough. I think they can win some close games and surprise.

[PackerLegend]

There alright but If the make the playoffs they arent gone anywhere.

[bsaza2358]

I am with you there. I'm not saying the Niners are going to win anything. Just saying they have a chance to surprise and win the division. That would be a huge step for them, and I think it's enough.

[WinslowBodden]

I think they will win their division, and grats on 1,000 posts :)

[LitoSheppard]

With all the FA signings ("80 million" clements deal, michael lewis, etc) and late season wins over denver and seattle, i think SF is getting a lot of hype. They're being picked as a team to win the division. Of course, this leads to a little bit of a bad taste in some peoples mouths as it reminds them of the cardinals and dolphins of years past, teams that were hyped but fell way below expectations. My question to you is, do you think the 49ers are all hype, or is there substance?

Substance..They are not predenters..they are contender

[Brent]

They have the potential but there is less than a 50% chance that leads to results. I wouldn't expect a division win for a year or 2 while they get a system in place and start to figure out which players work and which don't, and establish a 'core' team which they don't really have right now.
Are you serious? The Niners swept Seattle last year, winning half their division games and they are using the exact same playbook as last year, even though Norv left, so I don't know what system they are getting in place. Not winning a division game in a year or two? That's ridiculous.

[bsaza2358]

Sweeping a Seattle team with lots of injuries, Super Bowl hangover, and one that lost players in free agency is not that big of a deal. That's like the 2005 Redskins and Giants bragging that they swept and Eagles team that was decimated by injuries and chemistry issues.

[BlindSite]

There's some substance there, but I really can't see that defense being good enough to stop the offenses of Carolina with steve smith, johnson and our two runningbacks, or for that matter New Orleans. Throw in Atlanta's always competitive and then you've got seattle who've improved their defense and will be healthy.

I like the 49ers and have a lot of respect and support for Smith and Nolan, but a division winning team? Not with that D.

[M.O.T.H.]

There's some substance there, but I really can't see that defense being good enough to stop the offenses of Carolina with steve smith, johnson and our two runningbacks, or for that matter New Orleans. Throw in Atlanta's always competitive and then you've got seattle who've improved their defense and will be healthy.

I like the 49ers and have a lot of respect and support for Smith and Nolan, but a division winning team? Not with that D.

I love that defenses potential... Loads of talent there and Manusky to teach and mold them into that Charger esque D.

[Thomas7399]

I say substance too.....they had a good ground game last season and developing qb

[#1chiefs_fan]

this team is legit. I liked them coming into last year. The NFC west is going to be competative next year

[MP123]

I say hype because look at what the Cardinals did last off-season. They still ended up doing terrible. This is why I said hype.

[neko4]

Sweeping a Seattle team with lots of injuries, Super Bowl hangover, and one that lost players in free agency is not that big of a deal. That's like the 2005 Redskins and Giants bragging that they swept and Eagles team that was decimated by injuries and chemistry issues.

SEA still made the playoffs. (but this is the NFC West we're talking about)

[Frisco-9ers]

Sweeping a Seattle team with lots of injuries, Super Bowl hangover, and one that lost players in free agency is not that big of a deal. That's like the 2005 Redskins and Giants bragging that they swept and Eagles team that was decimated by injuries and chemistry issues.

The team that took the NFC Champs to overtime in the divisional round of the playoffs?

[Paranoidmoonduck]

Until they actually can get the personnel to run Nolan's defense, they aren't going the playoffs. They need a real 3-4 defensive line. Beyond that, the team has a ton of potential.

Gore needs to keep producing and I'd like to see more receiving threats in there than just Vernon Davis, who was a much more proficient blocker than receiver last year, but they have a good nucleus built up.

I'll say substance, but that's because I'm not expecting them to make the playoffs this year without a great draft day.

[Paul]

If Alex keeps progressing and Gore keeps doing what he's doing, and defense lives up to the money spent on it, I'll give them a chance at 9-7, maybe 10-6.

[TheMikey10]

if arnaz continues to develop and they add one more weapon at WR then they win the nfc west imo

[Tubby]

I think it is just ridiculous to suggest that the niners will win the division. Alex Smith showed some promise, but you dont have a great offense with just a QB and a RB. Their best O-lineman is 35 years old, you cant count on him to be a sure thing the entire year. Their TE's are good, but once you try to throw further than 5 yards you have to rely on Arnaz Battle, who certainly is not #1 Receiver quality. Their offense relies on too many variables to be considered good. If all the right pieces fall in place, SF can have a great offense. But then again, if all the pieces fall in place, everybody drafting from spot 5 onwards is a super bowl contender.

[ks_perfection]

I doubt they could pass Seattle, their just not nearly as good a team. I could see them finishing anywhere from 2-4. Rams have a great offense and if the defense could play decent they have a much better chance of dethrowning Seatle. Arizona lately either sweeps SF or splits so I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona passed them.

[Addict]

they´ll do well, but Seattle might still be out of reach... I can see a winning record though.

[Larry]

I say hype because look at what the Cardinals did last off-season. They still ended up doing terrible. This is why I said hype.

Two different teams, two different situations.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

If mostly everything works out I think they could be in the playoffs.

[The Great Jonathan Vilma]

i usually stay with the mindset that its just hype until they do it or if they have done it in the recent past. neither of which have happened, so at this point, i can only really view it as hype

[GiantRutgersFan]

yea pretty much.


I just love how people are praising Alex Smith, yet these same people bash Eli Manning and Big Ben Roeselberger all day long. an average of 1 TD, 1 INT, and one fumble a game, lets just send him to Canton right now!

give me a break.

Then people praise Vernon Davis the "Physical Freak" all day long, when he has done absolutely nothing. he caught 20 passes all last season in the 10 games he started.

49er Homers: just as bad as they were back when the 49ers were actually good....

They are the most overrated team, and the Cardinals of this season.

[BigDawg819]

yea pretty much.


I just love how people are praising Alex Smith, yet these same people bash Eli Manning and Big Ben Roeselberger all day long. an average of 1 TD, 1 INT, and one fumble a game, lets just send him to Canton right now!

give me a break.

Then people praise Vernon Davis the "Physical Freak" all day long, when he has done absolutely nothing. he caught 20 passes all last season in the 10 games he started.

49er Homers: just as bad as they were back when the 49ers were actually good....

They are the most overrated team, and the Cardinals of this season.

Well Davis actually only started 8 games and having a broken bone in your leg will slow anybodies production especially a rookie's who still learning the playbook. And who are you to bash or criticize "49ers Homers"? You are a ridiculous Giants and particularly Eli Manning homer and yet you criticize others? "He who is without sin should cast the first stone", and you sir should be no where near any stone!

[stl9erfan]

yea pretty much.


I just love how people are praising Alex Smith, yet these same people bash Eli Manning and Big Ben Roeselberger all day long. an average of 1 TD, 1 INT, and one fumble a game, lets just send him to Canton right now!

give me a break.

Then people praise Vernon Davis the "Physical Freak" all day long, when he has done absolutely nothing. he caught 20 passes all last season in the 10 games he started.

I think it's important to point out first that Smith is a year behind Roethlisberger and Eli, having entered the year after them. I do personally think Smith will be the best QB of those guys in the long run, but agree that nothing has been proven yet. But I would also like to point out that in his first two years, Smith probably would have killed to have receivers like Plaxico Burress, Jeremy Shockey, and Hines Ward.

As far as Vernon is concerned, he was a rookie last year, and the broken leg might have set him back. He did show during the time he started that he poses a big matchup problem for opposing defenses, and I would expect that he'll take a big step forward in his second year (most guys do).

As far as overall, I'm not going to predict the division, there are just too many variables there. However, given all the free agent additions the Niners have made and the number of picks they have in the first 4 rounds (8), I think it's reasonable to expect their record to continue to improve barring significant injury (i.e. Gore *knock wood*), putting them at around 9-7 or 10-6, which should give them at least a shot at a wildcard berth.

Just my .02, trying to be as objective as possible.

[Chief49er]

I vote substance, but there are some holes still.

Gore needs a solid number 2 to keep him fresh.
Smith needs to take another step up.
We need a true number 1 wideout.
Defensive line needs some help.

A good draft that can produce two or three solid starters could put us in the place we need to be.

[GermanSaint]

i dont see how they are one legit #1WR away from a contender ...

there are a few more holes , iam not sold on their front seven and DBs also. they could add a complete new safety duo and atleast a #2CB ...
anyhow they are good for about 6-9 wins , what will some kind of an improvement . with another nice offseason and with the hope the current investigations will boom , they are contenders next year in a weak division...

[M.O.T.H.]

I do not see a need for a #2 CB at all... Walt Harris is coming off of a stellar pro bowl season with 8 ints. The Clements/Harris duo should cause a lot of problems for the opposition.

[Shiver]

It depends on two things; 1. being the health of Frank Gore, 2. the production from their two 1st round picks from last year. If they get both, I like their chances.

[Number 10]

Picking a team to win a division in April?

Come on.

[GermanSaint]

Picking a team to win a division in April?

Come on.

are you really able to pick it in september ? and after the season has begun , its no fun anymore.

[Jimmy]

i think they will be the chicago bears (to a less sucessful extent) of 07-08

they will get most of their offensive help from the running game
they will have an all around solid defense, and they will get no help from their qb

[Joe Montana]

For San Francisco to enter playoff berth:
1.ALEX SMITH has to perform,assert and command the offense.Open the offense wide,balance with run, and his completion has to be more consistent.
2.Cornerbacks and safeties have to shut down opposing receivers.Shantae spencer-garbage.need to draft another cornerback.
3.Pressure the opposing quarterbacks.Time for Lawson to step up.Nose tackle inconsistency. DE or ILB?????????????????????????????????????????
4.Offensive coordinator -????????????????????????????????????????????????
5.Gore + LEslie + Vernon + Receiver??????????????????????????????????????
6.Draft Kolb or Jeff Rowe for QB backup.

[rainbeaukid2]

i think that with the draft that scott has the niners getting, they will be a legit contender for the NFC West throne.

people say that a big weakness to the niners is the lack of a good 3-4 DLine, with the addition of carriker, we will have a cornerstone for the dline for years to come and it will help out the rest of the defense immensely.

another weakness of the niners that everyone points out is the lack of a #1 receiver which the pick of sidney rice would solve. he would give alex smith a big young target who could help him out with his good ball skills.

brandon siler in the third round would shore up another hole in the niners defense, that of the MLB playing opposite Brandon Moore. siler would give the niners the speed to complement moore's brawn and he could become a complete MLB. his addition would also give the niners a strong LB core for manusky to make charger esque, with moore, siler, and lawson to work with.

brandon mebane would be a decent pick as he, along with the adam carriker pick, would helpe shore up the porous dline that the niners currently have.

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all of that would give the niners a depth chart of

QB-Alex Smith, Trent Dilfer
RB-Frank Gore, Michael Robinson
FB-Moran Norris
TE-Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker
WR-Sidney Rice, Arnaz Battle
WR-Ashley Lelie, Brandon Williams
LT-Jonas Jennings, Adam Snyder
LG-Larry Allen, David Baas
C-Eric Heitmann, David Baas
RG-Justin Smiley, David Baas
RT-Kwame Harris, Adam Snyder

DE-Adam Carriker, Brandon Mebane
NT-Aubrayo Franklin
DE-Bryant Young, Brandon Mebane
OLB-Manny Lawson
MLB-Brandon Moore
MLB-Brandon Siler
OLB-Tully Banta-Cain
CB-Nate Clements, Shawntae Spencer
CB-Walt Harris
S-Michael Lewis
S-Mark Roman

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with all of the signings and the projected draft this year, the only real holes are at NT, RT, and FS. with those needs being minor, i have a feeling that they may be the real deal this year

[49ersfan_87]

I need to see their draft first.


I was just browsing some old pages when i came across this again. Im curious, after the draft SF had, what do people think now? Especially BBD, he knows a lot about football.

[Shiver]

I say "substance." They've only improved their team this off-season. The fact that they won road games against Seattle and Denver, two teams with the best home records in the league typically, with playoffs on the line for both, tells me a lot.

[fenikz]

people say that a big weakness to the niners is the lack of a good 3-4 DLine, with the addition of carriker, we will have a cornerstone for the dline for years to come and it will help out the rest of the defense immensely.




they drafted willis not carriker

[Philliez01]

they drafted willis not carriker

Read the date of that post. :)

[Shiver]

they drafted willis not carriker


Look at the post date...

[Phrost]

S.F. is a bunch of hizza hype!

[TheChampIsHere]

Theres a lot to like about the 49ers. They finished last season strong, they seem to be headed in the right direction and then they went out and did a lot to upgrade their talent level this offseason. But yes, you have to wonder if this is gonna work out. Weve seen this kind of offseason backfire on a lot of teams but the fact that they spent high money in FA is not a reason to pick against them and to me it seems they made quality signings.

Still, Im picking the Rams to win that division.

[Scotty D]

I think they have a great chance at winning a wild card. Will Staley start right away?

[sweetness34]

Right now hype.

[MasterShake]

I think they have a great chance at winning a wild card. Will Staley start right away?

Staely will be given a shot to start at RT, but the 49ers have Kwame Harris and Adam Snyder who are mostly competent at RT. One of them will likely start the season with Staley taking over eventually. Unless Staley comes in right of the bat and beats both those vets out in TC...

[KILLERSANTA]

9-7 first round lost.......Window for a super run 2009-2012, If alex smith keeps getting better....

[bored of education]

I wouldn't say alllll hype. They just need to progress like they did last year to be a top 3-5 NFC Team

[HoopsDemon12]

they're a few pieces away from being a contender, but I could see them slip into the playoffs.

I'd like to see them pick a guy like Ted Ginn Jr. in the first round

why would you wish that on that anyone?

[High Roller]

I think they have a great chance at winning a wild card. Will Staley start right away?

Staley will probably start over Kwame Harris. Although Harris has the ability to erase huge plays with stupid penalties.
But in all seriousness, as a niner fan, I think they have a shot at Wildcard/Divison. It should be an interesting division all year. I just hope they don't end up getting all these new players and suck, a la the Redskins last year.

[Paranoidmoonduck]

Staley will undoubtedly start over Harris, unless the coaching staff has a real aversion to having him begin his career on the right side. Harris is probably the worst starting offensive linemen I've ever seen.

[BlindSite]

I do not see a need for a #2 CB at all... Walt Harris is coming off of a stellar pro bowl season with 8 ints. The Clements/Harris duo should cause a lot of problems for the opposition.

Yeah, but a lot of interceptions isn't the sign of a good CB.

[TheChampIsHere]

Staley will undoubtedly start over Harris, unless the coaching staff has a real aversion to having him begin his career on the right side. Harris is probably the worst starting offensive linemen I've ever seen.

how can a Raider fan say that when you have to watch Langston Walker get blown by 30 times a game every sunday?

[Jimmy]

the denver win... well plummer played a tad and threw an int... so he screwed us over

[Jay]

I hope they are all hype just so we can have a top 10 pick next year :)

[Addict]

they'll get a better record than they should. They still have lots of needs and holes both defensively (corners, safeties) and offensively (wide reciever comes to mind)... they could do with another top 15 pick, but they'll probably end up picking somewhere between 15-25. That's about a... 8-8/9-7 record right?

[bored of education]

New Enlgand has their 1st round pick next year.

[49erfanatic]

Yes New England does have our first pick, we have the Colts first pick. I don't really see a need for us at corner, however. Clements was a huge add, and Spencer and Harris will compete for the 2nd spot. We drafted Terrel Brown in the 5th, who only fell that far because of character issues. Safety could be addressed, along with D-line.

[ninerfan]

they'll get a better record than they should. They still have lots of needs and holes both defensively (corners, safeties) and offensively (wide reciever comes to mind)... they could do with another top 15 pick, but they'll probably end up picking somewhere between 15-25. That's about a... 8-8/9-7 record right?

They addressed alot of them in FA or the draft - Clements is a shutdown CB and Spencer / Harris provide good support. At WR they got Jackson from Seattle and drafted Hill. They addressed the defense big time this off season and they finished 7-9 last year so I dont see how they cant be better. Clearly they are not a 13-3 team (yet) but they'll do ok. And what team doesnt want another top 15 pick ??

[Auron]

I think there's enough substance in SF for a possible playoff spot in the NFC, depending on Alex Smith's development, and Frank Gore continuing to be a tank. I think they added enough targets in the off-season so that their WR corps is no longer a weakness. Nolan is a great coach and he should have his players ready week in and week out.

I think the people expecting them to take the NFC West hands down are over hyping them. Although it's very possible, I believe that Division will be a lot stronger next season. (St.Louis, and Arizona look to be making strides, and Seattle with their coaching staff and core players are always competitive)

We'll see... big wins @ Denver, and beating Seattle twice shows me they can be a high quality team. However getting swept by Arizona was a big time disappointment. Looking at their schedule for next season I think a solid record range for them would be around 9-7, to 10-6.

[Phrost]

They addressed alot of them in FA or the draft - Clements is a shutdown CB and Spencer / Harris provide good support. At WR they got Jackson from Seattle and drafted Hill. They addressed the defense big time this off season and they finished 7-9 last year so I dont see how they cant be better. Clearly they are not a 13-3 team (yet) but they'll do ok. And what team doesnt want another top 15 pick ??

Clements a shutdown corner? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[ninerfan]

Clements a shutdown corner? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

OK well I hope so with all the coin he's getting

[reese]

OK well I hope so with all the coin he's getting

i dont how it is he got so much money..i guess thats y GMs are paid to do what they do and i just talk about it becuz ive never seen clements as a man to man shut down corner...and im a miami fan so i see him 2 times a year

[paladin]

Until the Yorks get out and stay out of the Niners' business, the team won't be able to get anything done. The Yorks have been the worst thing to happen to the franchise.

[stl9erfan]

Until the Yorks get out and stay out of the Niners' business, the team won't be able to get anything done. The Yorks have been the worst thing to happen to the franchise.

Let's give York a little credit... he did hire Mike Nolan, and Nolan looks like he's getting the team turned around. Even if you don't think SF is going to be that great this year, you can't deny all the progress he's made in his first two seasons on the job.

[Maddog4977]

Until the Yorks get out and stay out of the Niners' business, the team won't be able to get anything done. The Yorks have been the worst thing to happen to the franchise.

Huh? The Yorks are good owners.

[49ersfan_87]

Well, looks like they were..

[NIMV]

Niners has fallen down since Eddie DeBartolo left and Yorks took charge as owners.

First mistake was hiring Terry Donahue as GM because he drafted worst players with exceptions of Eric Johnson and Andy Lee. Also his work on 49ers draft war room was awful because he let go many talent players on 2004 draft when he traded down for more draft picks and let go Vince Wilfork,DJ Williams,Will Smith and Stephen Jackson. Plus he rewarded averaged players like Plummer and Barlow with multi year contract with high bonuses and let go Terrell Owens.

[Borat]

49ersfan_87, I hate you so much.