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stephenson86
08-11-2006, 11:14 AM
QB - Tom Brady - New England Patriots
http://www.profootballhof.com/images/content/assets/story_image/Brady_Tom_188_AP_2_17.jpg
Led his team to 3 Superbowls in 4 years Tom Brady is probably the best QB too have leading your team. His production may not blow you away but the rings on his fingers will. Second too Brady was Peyton Manning.

RB - LaDainian Tomlinson - San Diego Chargers
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/_photos5/2002-12-01-chargersw.jpg
He can do it all, the most complete RB in the NFL. Hr can run, pass, recieve and block, with him running behind the men in the trenches you know that you have a solid back. Second too Tomlinson was Larry Johnson

FB - Lorenzo Neal - San Diego Chargers
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041001/images/2004-10-01lorenzo.jpg
A huge FB with explosive blocks and the man who has helped the above run the way he has. He may be old but he hasnt lost his power and vision. Second too Neal was Tony Richardson.

WR - Larry Fitzgerald - Arizona Cardinals
http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/az/FitzgeraldAz.jpg
A surprise pick, but i guess not a shocking one, he has great ability and a great attitude which is appealing, still young he has a huge career ahead of him. Third too Fitzgerald was Terrell Owens.

WR - Chad Johnson - Cincinnati Bengals
http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2005/1201/photo/u_johnson_275.jpg
Number 85 likes too run his mouth and blow his own trumpet, but hey he has the right too because he is that damn good. Very unstoppable, 85 is a good man too have goin deep. Fourth too Johnson was Marvin Harrison.

LT - Walter Jones - Seattle Seahawks
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/michael_silver/01/27/open.mike/p1_jones_getty.jpg
Probably the best offensive lineman in he lague, only allowed 1 sack in the last two season, who else would you want covering Tom Brady's blindside? Second too Jones was Orlando Pace.

LG - Steve Hutchinson - Minnesota Vikings
http://www.in-forum.com/gfx/photos/stories/200604099vikings2.jpg
The best LG in the league at the moment, hutch has a new home but before that he teamed with Walter Jones too form the best left side of any offensive line. Second too Hutchinson was Larry Allen.

C - Olin Kreutz - Chicago Bears
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/27/271335.jpg
This man may not get talked about but he gos about his duties season in season out too a standard no other centre matches, a commanding player, he is he perfect fit. Second too Kreutz was LeCharles Bentley.

RG - Will Shields - KC Chiefs
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img7049341.jpg
Only ever missed 1 start in his entire career and has nevr mise a game, a certain hall of famer he is still the best RG in the league and a huge force in any offensive line. Second too Shields was Chris Naeole.

RT - Willie Anderson - Cincinnati Bengals
http://www.bengals.com/images/history/anderson_willie.jpg
Teams with Levi Jones too form one of the best tckle duos, anderson is an incredible run blocker with immense size and has helped seeral backs excel in Cinci. Second too Anderson was George Foster.

TE - Antonio Gates - San Diego Chargers
http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20051030/chargers_71684.jpg
Every QB's dream is too have a reliable TE who will always be there too throw too in a sticky situation, and gates provids that with a huge frame, great jump and amazing hands. Second too Gates was Jason Witten.

RE - Michael Strahan - NY Giants
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/2001/playoffs/news/2001/01/23/karp_strahan/t1_strahan_ap-01.jpg
This man has the most sacks out of all acive defensive ends, injured last year, who many doubted would come back strong came back and shut up all the critics having a very strong season. Third too Strahan was Dwight Freeney.

DT - Shaun Rogers - Detroit Lions
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img9265082.jpg
A Huge force who is consistently a disruption in the trenches is a very physical DT who can et too the QB and stop the run like it was second nature. Third too Rogers was John Henderson

DT - Marcus Stroud - Jacksonville Jaguars
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img7946082.jpg
Once half of the most feared DT tandem in the NFL Stroud is surprisingly athletic man for his size which helps him too run down he QB and get too the running back. Fourth too Stroud was Kevin Williams

LE - Julius Peppers - Carolina Panthers
http://www.panthers.com/photos/perm/main/LAFMLHNBFHDA/0915_peppers_inside.jpg
The most complete DE in the NFL he can do it all, cover, rush and stop the run, he is any DC's dream and cetainly has more too show for himself as he contrinues too thrive in the NFL. Fourth too Peppers was Jason Taylor

WOLB - Keith Bulluck - Tennessee Titans
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img7641392.jpg
Probably the best and most complete OLB in the NFL, Bulluck has been the only consistent performer in a struggling Titans defense over the past two years and has earned he respect of everyone in the NFL for it. Second too Bulluck was Derrick Brooks.

MLB - Brian Urlacher - Chicago Bears
http://www.profootballhof.com/images/content/photos/2000urlacher.jpg
there is nobody better in the NFL right now at the MLB than this man, a key too the success of the Chicago bears and a DMVP last year, Urlacher has established himself as the best. Second too Urlacher was Ray Lewis.

SOLB - Takeo Spikes - Buffalo Bills
http://www.eyetide.com/content/repository/images/ec/01/55/65/1556580.jpg
Returning from a serious injury Takeo this season may be a step slower than normal but he will not have less heart, he will still be a force and show he is still on of the best. Second too Spikes was Marcus Washington.

CB - Champ Bailey - Denver Broncos
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img9173842.jpg
Probably the best Shut down CB in the NFL, Bailey can cover and also come up in run support, any DC would be happy too have him on one side of the field so that he only needs too worry about the other. Third too Bailey was Ken Lucas.

CB - Deangelo Hall - Atlanta Falcons
http://atlanta.sundaypaper.com/Portals/0/images111305/Lead_Hall-1.jpg
A freakishly athletic CB Hall blew away alot of people last year with his stellar prformances establishing himself as one of the best CB's in the league. Fourth too Hall was Chris McCallistar.

FS - Brian Dawkins - Phillidelphia Eagles
http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20050110/PHI_dawkins_44473.jpg
Some say Sean Taylor is better but he is nowhere nearly as established as this man, Dawkins strikes fear into offenses, with his cover skills and the hardest hit in the NFL. Second too Dawkins was Sean Taylor

SS - Ed Reed - Baltimore Ravens
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img8005290.jpg
Probably the best S in the NFL Ed Reed Can play every DB role and play it well, he has it all and he is blessed with incredible instincts and a sweet set of hands. Second too Ed Reed was Roy Williams.

K - Neil Rackers - Arizona Cardinals
http://images.nfl.com/photos/fantasy/img9019084.jpg
Last Year he broke the record for the most field goals in a season and he was near perfection only missing 2 kicks. He deffinately is a keeper for Arizona. Second too Rackers was Adam Viniateri

P - Brian Moorman - Buffalo Bills
http://www.draftdaddy.com/images/players/brianMoorman.jpg
Surprisingly fast for a punter, but also an excellent punter aswell, very solid for buffalo who have one of the best special teams units in the NFL. Second too Moorman was Shane Lechler.

Honorable Mention - DB - Deion Sanders
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2002/12/22/sanders_raiders_ap/t1_sanders_all.jpg
Honorable mention goes too recently retired DB Deion "Primetime" Sanders who will be making his appearence in Canton in 4 years time, probably the best CB too ever play the game he gets honorable mention here and is part of the team. Second too Sanders was Jerry Rice.

Unfortunatly due too someone with multiple accounts Keith Brooking and Charles Woodson were disqualified from the voting.

I would like too thank all here at NFLDC who helped by voting and sharing their views position by position, I have enjoyed doing this and I have actually learned some stuff too.

Thanks
stephenson86

draftguru151
08-11-2006, 11:15 AM
:lol: E?

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 11:15 AM
pictures will be coming soon

draftguru151
08-11-2006, 11:15 AM
Is your name Mike?

Don Vito
08-11-2006, 11:17 AM
Its very good but Richard Seymour probably could have made it as a 4-3 DT.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
08-11-2006, 11:18 AM
Despite the lack of Elam (which made me refuse to vote in the K poll) I still give this team an A.

draftguru151
08-11-2006, 11:19 AM
What happened to the 3-4 team?

duckseason
08-11-2006, 11:19 AM
The two I disagree with most would be Fitzgerald and Strahan.
Can't much complain about the rest, but if I made one myself it would definitely look a bit different.

Don Vito
08-11-2006, 11:24 AM
The only thing on offense I would change is put in TO for Larry Fitzgerald, because when TO is on the field, he really hasn't been able to be stopped.

On defense I agree with the secondary and LBs, but I would have the DL Osi-Seymour-John Henderson-Peppers.

draftguru151
08-11-2006, 11:26 AM
My DL would be Freeney-Rogers-Seymour-Peppers. They would compliment each other very well.

Don Vito
08-11-2006, 11:29 AM
My DL would be Freeney-Rogers-Seymour-Peppers. They would compliment each other very well.

Yea I meant to have Rogers over Henderson.

njx9
08-11-2006, 11:33 AM
minus the receivers, not a bad team.

Don Vito
08-11-2006, 11:34 AM
minus the receivers, not a bad team.

Individually it could be better but I think Fitz and CJ would compliment eachother pretty well. I rather have TO over Fitz though.

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 11:52 AM
What happened to the 3-4 team?

someone else said they were doing it, im going on vacation in 10 hours so i dont have time :wink:

duckseason
08-11-2006, 11:53 AM
Not only should TO be on there over Fitz, but both Torry Holt, and Steve Smith are more deserving as well.
I like Fitz alot, and I think he will go down as one of the greats we've seen. He's just not on these other guys' level yet.

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 11:55 AM
Not only should TO be on there over Fitz, but both Torry Holt, and Steve Smith are more deserving as well.
I like Fitz alot, and I think he will go down as one of the greats we've seen. He's just not on these other guys' level yet.

i agree, i would of had holt and smith over anyone but this is what the majority said

Splat
08-11-2006, 12:07 PM
That is a pretty dam good team i would have went with T-Rich at FB.

ShutDwn
08-11-2006, 12:09 PM
Steve Smith is better then both Johnson and Fitgerald.

Also, in what games did Hall have stellar performances?

Splat
08-11-2006, 12:16 PM
In only two years Larry Fitzgerald has 161 catches 2189 yards and 18 TD's he can start on my team any day.

cunningham06
08-11-2006, 12:23 PM
It's a very good team but I'd give the second team the edge if both teams were to play because of one person. Peyton Manning. Him throwing to Marvin Harrison has already been proven effective and add TO and that offense cannot be stopped.

duckseason
08-11-2006, 12:23 PM
In only two years Larry Fitzgerald has 161 catches 2189 yards and 18 TD's he can start on my team any day.

I agree he's a great receiver, but the Arizona WR's stats are a bit inflated because they've been throwing nearly 70% of the time.
He can start for me too, but not over CJ, TO, Holt, and SS

cunningham06
08-11-2006, 12:29 PM
In only two years Larry Fitzgerald has 161 catches 2189 yards and 18 TD's he can start on my team any day.

I agree he's a great receiver, but the Arizona WR's stats are a bit inflated because they've been throwing nearly 70% of the time.
He can start for me too, but not over CJ, TO, Holt, and SS

He's not starting over CJ. :? CJ is the #1.

Pit Bull #53
08-11-2006, 12:37 PM
Very good team, the only one's I personally would have changed would be Freeney as the RDE, Ken Lucas and DeAngelo as my corners, and Steve Smith at WR.

08-11-2006, 12:53 PM
In only two years Larry Fitzgerald has 161 catches 2189 yards and 18 TD's he can start on my team any day.

I agree he's a great receiver, but the Arizona WR's stats are a bit inflated because they've been throwing nearly 70% of the time.
He can start for me too, but not over CJ, TO, Holt, and SS


Why would you take Holt over Fitz then?

elway777
08-11-2006, 12:54 PM
chad johnson?is this a joke?

Dam8610
08-11-2006, 12:58 PM
If there was an F on this poll, I'd vote for it. This is a joke.

NIN1984
08-11-2006, 12:59 PM
Looks good but I rather have Moss and Owens at WR

duckseason
08-11-2006, 01:12 PM
In only two years Larry Fitzgerald has 161 catches 2189 yards and 18 TD's he can start on my team any day.

I agree he's a great receiver, but the Arizona WR's stats are a bit inflated because they've been throwing nearly 70% of the time.
He can start for me too, but not over CJ, TO, Holt, and SS


Why would you take Holt over Fitz then?

Because as of right now, he is a better receiver. A savvy veteran. Fitzgerald would tell you he could still learn alot from a guy like Holt. And the Rams don't throw as much as ARI, so your point is not valid.

Shane P. Hallam
08-11-2006, 01:17 PM
Lol, it's a good team. I'm surprised no Steelers made it all, but the team looks nice on paper, of course, but def. not the team I'd make.

elway777
08-11-2006, 01:34 PM
We should just rename this thread the all glamour team,these are just the players the media has been attracted too.How in the world is the leading receiver in yards(Torry Holt) for the last 5 years getting surpassed by Chad Johnson?Plus Shane Lechler is argueably the best punter of all time and where is he?

Shiver
08-11-2006, 01:38 PM
How in the world is the leading receiver in yards(Torry Holt) for the last 5 years getting surpassed by Chad Johnson?


That sums up what I was thinking. Fitzgerald on the list is fine, because he has the chance to become one of, pardon the blasphemy, if not the greatest of all time. However, Torry Holt and Steve Smith are better than Chad Johnson.

elway777
08-11-2006, 01:59 PM
How in the world is the leading receiver in yards(Torry Holt) for the last 5 years getting surpassed by Chad Johnson?


That sums up what I was thinking. Fitzgerald on the list is fine, because he has the chance to become one of, pardon the blasphemy, if not the greatest of all time. However, Torry Holt and Steve Smith are better than Chad Johnson.

And what bugs me even more is that Marvin Harrison is listed below Chad Johnson,because If not Holt than Harrison should definately be on here.

Shiver
08-11-2006, 02:00 PM
Eh, Harrison is on the slippery slope to his career's end. His production has steadly declined over the past four seasons.

rchrd
08-11-2006, 02:01 PM
Despite the lack of Elam (which made me refuse to vote in the K poll) I still give this team an A.

That's the second time i've read you post on that, and I still dont care even the slightest bit more. That's my gift to you.

njx9
08-11-2006, 02:01 PM
yeah, based on last year or next year, harrison is not a top two guy. holt otoh...

elway777
08-11-2006, 02:03 PM
Eh, Harrison is on the slippery slope to his career's end. His production has steadly declined over the past four seasons.

Because of The rise of Reggie Wayne,he still has deceptive speed and runs AMAZING routes.
I forgot to add in that Harrison and Holt are undoubtly the best route runners in the entire league.

duckseason
08-11-2006, 02:04 PM
Eh, Harrison is on the slippery slope to his career's end. His production has steadly declined over the past four seasons.

Because of The rise of Reggie Wayne,he still has deceptive speed and runs AMAZING routes.
I forgot to add in that Harrison and Holt are undoubtly the best route runners in the entire league.

Derrick Mason would have something to say about that. They're definitely among the elite though.

elway777
08-11-2006, 02:08 PM
Eh, Harrison is on the slippery slope to his career's end. His production has steadly declined over the past four seasons.

Because of The rise of Reggie Wayne,he still has deceptive speed and runs AMAZING routes.
I forgot to add in that Harrison and Holt are undoubtly the best route runners in the entire league.

Derrick Mason would have something to say about that. They're definitely among the elite though.

Yeah I know,Mason wont put up any numbers in a Ravens offense though so he will always be underated.Though he did lead the league in receptions just one year ago.

duckseason
08-11-2006, 02:13 PM
Eh, Harrison is on the slippery slope to his career's end. His production has steadly declined over the past four seasons.

Because of The rise of Reggie Wayne,he still has deceptive speed and runs AMAZING routes.
I forgot to add in that Harrison and Holt are undoubtly the best route runners in the entire league.

Derrick Mason would have something to say about that. They're definitely among the elite though.

Yeah I know,Mason wont put up any numbers in a Ravens offense though so he will always be underated.Though he did lead the league in receptions just one year ago.

And now he's reunited with that same QB who threw to him that year.....
I think Baltimore will be one of the more interesting teams to watch this year.

elway777
08-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Eh, Harrison is on the slippery slope to his career's end. His production has steadly declined over the past four seasons.

Because of The rise of Reggie Wayne,he still has deceptive speed and runs AMAZING routes.
I forgot to add in that Harrison and Holt are undoubtly the best route runners in the entire league.

Derrick Mason would have something to say about that. They're definitely among the elite though.

Yeah I know,Mason wont put up any numbers in a Ravens offense though so he will always be underated.Though he did lead the league in receptions just one year ago.

And now he's reunited with that same QB who threw to him that year.....
I think Baltimore will be one of the more interesting teams to watch this year.

Eh,im not to high on Baltimore.On paper they look dominant as they did last year as well,yet the production of there Oline and Jamal Lewis will decide how they'll do ultimately.

duckseason
08-11-2006, 02:23 PM
Eh,im not to high on Baltimore.On paper they look dominant as they did last year as well,yet the production of there Oline and Jamal Lewis will decide how they'll do ultimately.

Ya, I'm really not either. Yet. I say they should be interesting to watch because they made some very key additions, and I want to see how it unfolds over the season. The whole McNair/Mason reunition is part of that. Ray Lewis having a big body in the middle is another.

elway777
08-11-2006, 02:32 PM
Eh,im not to high on Baltimore.On paper they look dominant as they did last year as well,yet the production of there Oline and Jamal Lewis will decide how they'll do ultimately.

Ya, I'm really not either. Yet. I say they should be interesting to watch because they made some very key additions, and I want to see how it unfolds over the season. The whole McNair/Mason reunition is part of that. Ray Lewis having a big body in the middle is another.

I've been high on the Ravens each year,but they always seem to disapoint.I was suprised as to how bad Ed Muliatilo(spelling)whos known as a dominant run blocker performed so badly which took away alot from Jamals productions.and lets face it,the Ravens success this year will be on the shoulders of Jamal Lewis,because if he can be anywhere near normal all Mcnair will have to do is manage the game,but if Mcnair has to win games for the Ravens like he had to in Tenesseee a year ago they'll be an
average 8-8 team.

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 02:54 PM
We should just rename this thread the all glamour team,these are just the players the media has been attracted too.How in the world is the leading receiver in yards(Torry Holt) for the last 5 years getting surpassed by Chad Johnson?Plus Shane Lechler is argueably the best punter of all time and where is he?

so what does that tell you about all of the members on this forum, just glamour seekers?

elway777
08-11-2006, 02:57 PM
We should just rename this thread the all glamour team,these are just the players the media has been attracted too.How in the world is the leading receiver in yards(Torry Holt) for the last 5 years getting surpassed by Chad Johnson?Plus Shane Lechler is argueably the best punter of all time and where is he?

so what does that tell you about all of the members on this forum, just glamour seekers?

Alot of people voting off the people who's names have been mentioned the most on ESPN,besides T.O.

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 03:04 PM
We should just rename this thread the all glamour team,these are just the players the media has been attracted too.How in the world is the leading receiver in yards(Torry Holt) for the last 5 years getting surpassed by Chad Johnson?Plus Shane Lechler is argueably the best punter of all time and where is he?

so what does that tell you about all of the members on this forum, just glamour seekers?

Alot of people voting off the people who's names have been mentioned the most on ESPN,besides T.O.

hmmmm i disagree for the most part, despite deangelo hall and fitz and chad, i think the rest are quite solid

Splat
08-11-2006, 03:07 PM
T.O. and Moss on the same team would never work.

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 03:09 PM
T.O. and Moss on the same team would never work.

because theyd both be open and the QB wouldnt know who too throw too because they both hate on them :lol:

RCAChainGang
08-11-2006, 03:38 PM
Where's big john henderson???!!!!!! He's a beast.

P.S. the wourst job ever would be the guy that slaps henderson before the game to make him mad...henderson said"comon you got to draw blood with it!" :lol:

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 03:45 PM
Where's big john henderson???!!!!!! He's a beast.

P.S. the wourst job ever would be the guy that slaps henderson before the game to make him mad...henderson said"comon you got to draw blood with it!" :lol:

THATS RIGHT, YOU MAKIN BLOOD COME FROM MY MOUTH WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i love him :cry:

http://www.jaguars.com/team/images/players/180x180/player(1849)180x180.jpg

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
08-11-2006, 03:46 PM
Where's big john henderson???!!!!!! He's a beast.

P.S. the wourst job ever would be the guy that slaps henderson before the game to make him mad...henderson said"comon you got to draw blood with it!" :lol:


John Henderson is a scary mofo. I was watching that behind the safety of my TV and I still wanted to run and hide.

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 03:57 PM
If there was an F on this poll, I'd vote for it. This is a joke.

a tad harsh

ninerfan
08-11-2006, 04:10 PM
dont know why people are b*tchin - we voted for this team

:lol: probably give my 9ers a run for a while before our high powered offense slips away in the 4th :lol:

Basileus777
08-11-2006, 04:18 PM
Eh, Harrison is on the slippery slope to his career's end. His production has steadly declined over the past four seasons.

Because of The rise of Reggie Wayne,he still has deceptive speed and runs AMAZING routes.
I forgot to add in that Harrison and Holt are undoubtly the best route runners in the entire league.

Derrick Mason would have something to say about that. They're definitely among the elite though.

Yeah I know,Mason wont put up any numbers in a Ravens offense though so he will always be underated.Though he did lead the league in receptions just one year ago.

Just a small correction, Mason only lead WRs in receptions, not the entire league. Tony Gonzalez had 6 more receptions that year (102 to 96).

Dam8610
08-11-2006, 04:52 PM
If there was an F on this poll, I'd vote for it. This is a joke.

a tad harsh

You discluded Bob Sanders (2005 AP All-Pro at FS, 2005 AFC Pro Bowl starter at FS) from the poll for best FS, and you don't have a single player from either of the teams with the most wins in the last 2 seasons (Colts, Steelers) on the ALL NFLDC team. How does either of those things happen?

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 06:55 PM
If there was an F on this poll, I'd vote for it. This is a joke.

a tad harsh

You discluded Bob Sanders (2005 AP All-Pro at FS, 2005 AFC Pro Bowl starter at FS) from the poll for best FS, and you don't have a single player from either of the teams with the most wins in the last 2 seasons (Colts, Steelers) on the ALL NFLDC team. How does either of those things happen?

heres an idea....u ready....ask everyone who voted?

Shiver
08-11-2006, 06:56 PM
There is no way that Bob Sanders would've stood a chance, so it's not that big of a deal.

Dam8610
08-11-2006, 07:09 PM
If there was an F on this poll, I'd vote for it. This is a joke.

a tad harsh

You discluded Bob Sanders (2005 AP All-Pro at FS, 2005 AFC Pro Bowl starter at FS) from the poll for best FS, and you don't have a single player from either of the teams with the most wins in the last 2 seasons (Colts, Steelers) on the ALL NFLDC team. How does either of those things happen?

heres an idea....u ready....ask everyone who voted?

Well, I wasn't really criticizing you for the voters, however, I do think you let personal bias get in the way of putting a far more worthy option than those available on the FS poll. The presentation wasn't bad, but no matter how you present horse manure (which is what this team is), it'll still look and smell like horse manure.

There is no way that Bob Sanders would've stood a chance, so it's not that big of a deal.

When players like Greg Wesley, Bryan Scott, and Chris Hope are on the poll, yes it is a big deal.

The Unseen
08-11-2006, 07:40 PM
I voted B. I don't agree with Strahan (he's a LE anyways, why wasn't this discredited as foul play?), as well as Chad Johnson, as I would also have Torry Holt or Steve Smith up there. IMO, Steve Smith and Torry Holt are the two best receivers in the game.

Rackers is an interesting choice. He's a great kicker, but he doesn't have as much cred as Vinateri or even Vanderjerk. I don't necessarily disagree with it, as it does make sense (trivia: Rackers first miss of '05: first FGA vs. the Jags, also the day when ESPN did a Kenny Mayne special on him in their Sunday Countdown :lol:)

And you all know what I think about Henderson and Stroud...okay, I'm still gonna say it. Henderson > Stroud and Henderson > all.

stephenson86
08-11-2006, 08:32 PM
If there was an F on this poll, I'd vote for it. This is a joke.

a tad harsh

You discluded Bob Sanders (2005 AP All-Pro at FS, 2005 AFC Pro Bowl starter at FS) from the poll for best FS, and you don't have a single player from either of the teams with the most wins in the last 2 seasons (Colts, Steelers) on the ALL NFLDC team. How does either of those things happen?

heres an idea....u ready....ask everyone who voted?

Well, I wasn't really criticizing you for the voters, however, I do think you let personal bias get in the way of putting a far more worthy option than those available on the FS poll. The presentation wasn't bad, but no matter how you present horse manure (which is what this team is), it'll still look and smell like horse manure.

There is no way that Bob Sanders would've stood a chance, so it's not that big of a deal.

When players like Greg Wesley, Bryan Scott, and Chris Hope are on the poll, yes it is a big deal.

im english man my exposure too football is minimal, and no bias was involved

art vandelay
08-11-2006, 08:42 PM
You spelled 'to', 'too', like also.

Dam8610
08-11-2006, 10:22 PM
If there was an F on this poll, I'd vote for it. This is a joke.

a tad harsh

You discluded Bob Sanders (2005 AP All-Pro at FS, 2005 AFC Pro Bowl starter at FS) from the poll for best FS, and you don't have a single player from either of the teams with the most wins in the last 2 seasons (Colts, Steelers) on the ALL NFLDC team. How does either of those things happen?

heres an idea....u ready....ask everyone who voted?

Well, I wasn't really criticizing you for the voters, however, I do think you let personal bias get in the way of putting a far more worthy option than those available on the FS poll. The presentation wasn't bad, but no matter how you present horse manure (which is what this team is), it'll still look and smell like horse manure.

There is no way that Bob Sanders would've stood a chance, so it's not that big of a deal.

When players like Greg Wesley, Bryan Scott, and Chris Hope are on the poll, yes it is a big deal.

im english man my exposure too football is minimal, and no bias was involved

Well, it's a bit more understandable I guess then. Do you not hear about Pro Bowl or All-Pro rosters over there though? Becuase Sanders made both (only 2 safeties per year make the AP All-Pro roster), and was the starter in the Pro Bowl.

Shiver
08-11-2006, 10:27 PM
When players like Greg Wesley, Bryan Scott, and Chris Hope are on the poll, yes it is a big deal.


Touche

Texico From Mexico
08-12-2006, 03:15 PM
Where can we put an "F"?

The Legend
08-13-2006, 09:10 PM
WR - Larry Fitzgerald - Arizona Cardinals
http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/az/FitzgeraldAz.jpg
A surprise pick, but i guess not a shocking one, he has great ability and a great attitude which is appealing, still young he has a huge career ahead of him. Third too Fitzgerald was Terrell Owens.

Steve Smith over Larry

RE - Michael Strahan - NY Giants
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/2001/playoffs/news/2001/01/23/karp_strahan/t1_strahan_ap-01.jpg
This man has the most sacks out of all acive defensive ends, injured last year, who many doubted would come back strong came back and shut up all the critics having a very strong season. Third too Strahan was Dwight Freeney.

Jason Taylor over Mike

DT - Shaun Rogers - Detroit Lions
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img9265082.jpg
A Huge force who is consistently a disruption in the trenches is a very physical DT who can et too the QB and stop the run like it was second nature. Third too Rogers was John Henderson

John Henderson or Shaun

CB - Deangelo Hall - Atlanta Falcons
http://atlanta.sundaypaper.com/Portals/0/images111305/Lead_Hall-1.jpg
A freakishly athletic CB Hall blew away alot of people last year with his stellar prformances establishing himself as one of the best CB's in the league. Fourth too Hall was Chris McCallistar.


McAlister or O'Neal over Hall



there my changes

draftguru151
08-13-2006, 09:13 PM
I hope you aren't talking about Deltha O'Neal. :?

Basileus777
08-13-2006, 09:19 PM
I hope you aren't talking about Deltha O'Neal. :?

I would hope not, Deltha O'Neal isn't a top 10 corner let alone the 2nd best.

draftguru151
08-13-2006, 10:30 PM
I don't like that Randy Thomas is not the back up RG.

Jughead10
08-13-2006, 10:36 PM
I would just switch Strahan to LE and Peppers to RE. I think that would both better utlize their talents. I don't think either was voted specifically to each spot and were just the two top DE vote getters.

08-13-2006, 10:37 PM
If you ask me the fact that Steve Smith is absent is pretty rediculous.

Bearsfan123
08-13-2006, 11:31 PM
If you ask me the fact that Steve Smith is absent is pretty rediculous.

lmao thats sad. The guy is good but im not calling him a great yet. Greats stay healthy, and greats continue to produce. Ill stay tuned for him to do that. Since he hasnt yet.

08-13-2006, 11:33 PM
If you ask me the fact that Steve Smith is absent is pretty rediculous.

lmao thats sad. The guy is good but im not calling him a great yet. Greats stay healthy, and greats continue to produce. Ill stay tuned for him to do that. Since he hasnt yet.



You cant discount what he did last year. And the year before he got hurt he was also productive. He was far and away the best in the league last year so I dont see why he isnt an all pro.

smittyjs
08-13-2006, 11:56 PM
I wouldn't this team at all. :wink: 8)