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The Legend
09-04-2006, 06:59 PM
he came to packers for a visit Sunday & Monday and is said to leave happy and expecting a deal (most probably a 1 year deal)

Reason why he would join the packers

1. Ted Thompson (GM) [when he was with the Seahawks]- was who wanted Koren and pick him

2. Robinson came for the visit and spent the whole sunday with favre

3. Robinson wants some revenge on the Vikings (Twice a Year) [aka LaVar & Owens]

4. packers only have 4 wideouts on there roster right now

5. packers does not have a kick returner and were last in the leage in return yards

The Unseen
09-04-2006, 07:01 PM
So does this mean that he won't be suspended?

The Legend
09-04-2006, 07:02 PM
So does this mean that he won't be suspended?

no he wil not be (because i think NFLTA would have said that)

MossRandleElLloyd
09-04-2006, 07:05 PM
So does this mean that he won't be suspended?

no he wil not be (because i think NFLTA would have said that)

huh? I don't get how he wouldnt be suspended?

The Legend
09-04-2006, 07:06 PM
So does this mean that he won't be suspended?

no he wil not be (because i think NFLTA would have said that)

huh? I don't get how he wouldnt be suspended?
but i guess hes not suspended

And there's a familiarity between Green Bay's front office and Robinson. Packers general manager Ted Thompson, director of college scouting John Dorsey and personnel analyst to the general manager John Schneider were with the Seahawks when they used their first-round pick on Robinson. The Packers brain trust knows Robinson, and appears to be debating the merits of signing him, despite the legal problems that now are confronting him.

Earlier this summer, the Minnesota Vikings cut Robinson after he was arrested and charged with drunken driving and fleeing police. It was Robinson's latest brush with the law, but not enough to dissuade Green Bay from arranging a tryout with the talented but troubled wideout.

bearsfan_51
09-04-2006, 07:16 PM
What? Of course he could still be suspended. Just because they brought him in for a talk that means he won't be suspended? I'm pretty sure he'll miss at least the first 4 games.

GB12
09-04-2006, 07:20 PM
they tried to get him last year but the vikings resigned him. Im not sure if I want him or not at this point

TitleTown088
09-04-2006, 07:31 PM
I'd be surprised if he did, but if he did the packers recivers would be pretty solid.

but i still dont understand how he would not be suspended.

XxXdragonXxX
09-04-2006, 07:49 PM
He has to be convicted of drunk driving before he gets suspended...

Anyone know when he goes on trial?

TitleTown088
09-04-2006, 07:59 PM
just read on packers news that koren will not be prosicuted until after the 2006 season and this means that the nfl officials will not be able to punish him until after the season is over.... so i dunnno what to think?

jackalope
09-04-2006, 08:05 PM
i don't want us to sign him. Thompson said he wants "packer people", and i don't see Robinson as a packer person.

jkpigskin
09-04-2006, 08:35 PM
revenge??? revenge for wat... the vikings are the ones that gave him a 2nd chance and gave him a new contract.... the vikings should be the one talking abut revenge

09-04-2006, 08:43 PM
The packers would be really dumb to sign him. He seems like someone that just wont learn.

DHVF
09-04-2006, 09:44 PM
revenge??? revenge for wat... the vikings are the ones that gave him a 2nd chance and gave him a new contract.... the vikings should be the one talking abut revengeThank you, as I was about to say the same exact thing.

TimD
09-04-2006, 10:12 PM
The packers would be really dumb to sign him. He seems like someone that just wont learn.
yeh exactly i hate how everyone gets like second, third, forth chances... if they blow it its over

09-04-2006, 10:20 PM
The packers would be really dumb to sign him. He seems like someone that just wont learn.
yeh exactly i hate how everyone gets like second, third, forth chances... if they blow it its over

What is it his 3rd or 4th time?

Romarville
09-04-2006, 10:29 PM
That would make well over his third chance. If anyone were to sign him, I would feel deeply sorry for their fans. I wish that he was back on track, but I can't see him ever getting his stuff together. Isn't there a possibilty that he could face jail time since he violated his probation?

09-04-2006, 10:47 PM
The way I see it, so he has a problem with alcohol.... yeah so does the whole state of wisconsin.

This last time he only blew a .11 BAC... a large number of people drive to work the next day and could still blow a .11! Sign him and let him assimilate into the Wisconsin population

Romarville
09-04-2006, 10:52 PM
I guess if you hate Aaron Rodgers then it's a good idea.

09-04-2006, 10:54 PM
I guess if you hate Aaron Rodgers then it's a good idea.

what? how does that have anything to do with it?

Romarville
09-04-2006, 10:56 PM
It usually helps to have a receiver who can catch the ball in the development of a QB. Hawks' fans have plenty of experience with his dropped passes.

09-04-2006, 10:56 PM
It usually helps to have a receiver who can catch the ball in the development of a QB. Hawks' fans have plenty of experience with his dropped passes.
Well considering he would be the 5th WR....

**edit- He might be able to work up to the 4th... maybe even 3rd spot (but if he does get the 3rd spot... we have bigger problems then Koren)

Romarville
09-04-2006, 11:12 PM
I don't think that any locker room needs the headaches that Koren would bring. One could say the same for Peter Warrick who just got cut. Good talent, I thought he was gonna make the team, but his attitude was poor and now he's crying to the media in Florida.

09-04-2006, 11:43 PM
Now I have to hate him even more.

The Legend
09-05-2006, 02:48 PM
revenge??? revenge for wat... the vikings are the ones that gave him a 2nd chance and gave him a new contract.... the vikings should be the one talking abut revengeThank you, as I was about to say the same exact thing.

by revenage i mean everyone love to beat there old team (look at sharper he could have went to the ravens and the falcons but he pick the viking to stay vs his old team)

PACKmanN
09-05-2006, 02:50 PM
revenge??? revenge for wat... the vikings are the ones that gave him a 2nd chance and gave him a new contract.... the vikings should be the one talking abut revengeThank you, as I was about to say the same exact thing.

by revenage i mean everyone love to beat there old team (look at sharper)Sharper has not done anything to us yet.

The Legend
09-05-2006, 02:53 PM
revenge??? revenge for wat... the vikings are the ones that gave him a 2nd chance and gave him a new contract.... the vikings should be the one talking abut revengeThank you, as I was about to say the same exact thing.

by revenage i mean everyone love to beat there old team (look at sharper)Sharper has not done anything to us yet.

im not saying that he did something im saying he went the to vs his old team

Vince Lombardi
09-05-2006, 02:54 PM
I don't think that any locker room needs the headaches that Koren would bring.

Most of his teammates in Minny liked him alot and were pulling for him to recover, so it's not like he was disliked in the locker room.

Green Bay really has nothing to lose in this deal, as of now they only have 4 WR's on the roster and no kick returner and Koren can help with both. And anyone who thinks that they won't protect themselves in the contract incase Koren gets suspended or arrested again is foolish. It will be a minimal risk for GB and he won't probably won't get paid very much anyways. Koren is a good player when he's actually on the field.

The Legend
09-05-2006, 02:59 PM
I don't think that any locker room needs the headaches that Koren would bring.

Most of his teammates in Minny liked him alot and were pulling for him to recover, so it's not like he was disliked in the locker room.

Green Bay really has nothing to lose in this deal, as of now they only have 4 WR's on the roster and no kick returner and Koren can help with both. And anyone who thinks that they won't protect themselves in the contract incase Koren gets suspended or arrested again is foolish. It will be a minimal risk for GB and he won't probably won't get paid very much anyways. Koren is a good player when he's actually on the field.

In the interim period between his release and re-signing the second time around on Sept. 20, the Packers tried to intercede. Green Bay, which had lost wide receiver Javon Walker for the season, attempted to entice Robinson to pass on the Vikings' offer for more money and a guaranteed starter's spot. He declined, citing the loyalty the Vikings

Almost a year a later, it looks like K-Rob and the Packers could be courting one another again. While it remains unclear when or if the league will suspend Robinson for his high-speed police chase and DWI arrest that led to his ouster from the Vikings, the Packers clearly have a need. After cutting their roster down to 53, the Packers have just four wide receivers on the roster -- as well as a glaring need for a kick returner. Robinson could be a helpful addition in both areas.

The Packers might wait until after the first game to attempt a signing of Robinson

No timetable has been set for when the new commissioner will hear the case

http://vikings.scout.com/2/564674.html


also Greg Jennings has been named Number 2

http://www.packers.com/team/depth_chart/

Twiddler
09-05-2006, 03:32 PM
No big deal here. And who cares if you are complaining about him getting too many chances. It's not like he's coming in and being our main receiver, he's being our fifth, and maybe he can work his way up to the fourth slot with time. And he can return punts for us which is a vacancy on our team. Good signing, plus TT has experience with him so that's a plus also.

Romarville
09-05-2006, 04:07 PM
If the Pack wants him, then by all means. I hope he plays great for the rest of his career and stays sober. The only reason I don't like him is because Holmgren really pulled for this guy and Koren let him down.

njx9
09-05-2006, 04:08 PM
No big deal here. And who cares if you are complaining about him getting too many chances. It's not like he's coming in and being our main receiver, he's being our fifth, and maybe he can work his way up to the fourth slot with time. And he can return punts for us which is a vacancy on our team. Good signing, plus TT has experience with him so that's a plus also.

if we're going to talk about a guy getting a fifty-seventh chance, it should make no difference whatsoever if he's getting it as a #1 or a practice squad guy.

on the other hand, i hope you and the rest of the second-chance guys have been completely supportive of guys like latrell sprewell, ron artest and terrell owens.

09-05-2006, 04:49 PM
No big deal here. And who cares if you are complaining about him getting too many chances. It's not like he's coming in and being our main receiver, he's being our fifth, and maybe he can work his way up to the fourth slot with time. And he can return punts for us which is a vacancy on our team. Good signing, plus TT has experience with him so that's a plus also.

if we're going to talk about a guy getting a fifty-seventh chance, it should make no difference whatsoever if he's getting it as a #1 or a practice squad guy.

on the other hand, i hope you and the rest of the second-chance guys have been completely supportive of guys like latrell sprewell, ron artest and terrell owens.

The only think that I don't like TO is that he is a media *****. And I'm sick of seeing his face every time I watch TV. If it's on sunday, its okay, but other than that, he needs to shut up

njx9
09-05-2006, 04:52 PM
No big deal here. And who cares if you are complaining about him getting too many chances. It's not like he's coming in and being our main receiver, he's being our fifth, and maybe he can work his way up to the fourth slot with time. And he can return punts for us which is a vacancy on our team. Good signing, plus TT has experience with him so that's a plus also.

if we're going to talk about a guy getting a fifty-seventh chance, it should make no difference whatsoever if he's getting it as a #1 or a practice squad guy.

on the other hand, i hope you and the rest of the second-chance guys have been completely supportive of guys like latrell sprewell, ron artest and terrell owens.

The only think that I don't like TO is that he is a media ***********. And I'm sick of seeing his face every time I watch TV. If it's on sunday, its okay, but other than that, he needs to shut up

sure, and i'm not trying to "out" anyone or anything, but it seems to be an NFLDC thing to think the guy deserves ample second chances if he's a member of Team X and you root for Team X, but that he should be strung up by his ballls if he's a member of Team Y.

drowe
09-05-2006, 05:07 PM
just read on packers news that koren will not be prosicuted until after the 2006 season and this means that the nfl officials will not be able to punish him until after the season is over.... so i dunnno what to think?


nice...sign him...yeah, he's a charcter issue, but green bay is a relatively small and boring town...not a lot to do to get yourself in trouble...and packers haven't had a kick returner since desmond howard.

Boston
09-05-2006, 06:04 PM
just read on packers news that koren will not be prosicuted until after the 2006 season and this means that the nfl officials will not be able to punish him until after the season is over.... so i dunnno what to think?


nice...sign him...yeah, he's a charcter issue, but green bay is a relatively small and boring town...not a lot to do to get yourself in trouble...and packers haven't had a kick returner since desmond howard.

Allen Rossum.

09-05-2006, 06:33 PM
While I would rather it be another team I wouldnt mind, in fact I would be happy to, see Koren get another chance, I just dont want to see someone throw their career away....agian.

GB12
09-05-2006, 06:59 PM
No big deal here. And who cares if you are complaining about him getting too many chances. It's not like he's coming in and being our main receiver, he's being our fifth, and maybe he can work his way up to the fourth slot with time. And he can return punts for us which is a vacancy on our team. Good signing, plus TT has experience with him so that's a plus also.

I would be very surprised for him to be fifth. Obviously it's Driver first, Jennings second. But after that it's up in the air. He should start out at at least 4th. I like martin but If he cant beat Martin out then do we really need him. and no one can say that he cant get ahead of Ferguson.

TitleTown088
09-05-2006, 07:17 PM
i think it would go Diver jennings/ferguson Robinson, and martin. but ill be surprised if robinson gets signed.

Twiddler
09-05-2006, 08:11 PM
No big deal here. And who cares if you are complaining about him getting too many chances. It's not like he's coming in and being our main receiver, he's being our fifth, and maybe he can work his way up to the fourth slot with time. And he can return punts for us which is a vacancy on our team. Good signing, plus TT has experience with him so that's a plus also.

if we're going to talk about a guy getting a fifty-seventh chance, it should make no difference whatsoever if he's getting it as a #1 or a practice squad guy.

on the other hand, i hope you and the rest of the second-chance guys have been completely supportive of guys like latrell sprewell, ron artest and terrell owens.

Well I guess I'll just agree to disagree. Because in my mind, if he's going to get fifth receiver on the depth chart kind of money, than what's the difference between signing some other backup to play the role or taking him. I mean sure you could number the chances off like you said with your fifty seventh thing but I personally think that this "chance" is very minor compared to a team signing him to come in and be one of their top two or three receivers.

09-05-2006, 08:40 PM
No big deal here. And who cares if you are complaining about him getting too many chances. It's not like he's coming in and being our main receiver, he's being our fifth, and maybe he can work his way up to the fourth slot with time. And he can return punts for us which is a vacancy on our team. Good signing, plus TT has experience with him so that's a plus also.

if we're going to talk about a guy getting a fifty-seventh chance, it should make no difference whatsoever if he's getting it as a #1 or a practice squad guy.

on the other hand, i hope you and the rest of the second-chance guys have been completely supportive of guys like latrell sprewell, ron artest and terrell owens.

Well I guess I'll just agree to disagree. Because in my mind, if he's going to get fifth receiver on the depth chart kind of money, than what's the difference between signing some other backup to play the role or taking him. I mean sure you could number the chances off like you said with your fifty seventh thing but I personally think that this "chance" is very minor compared to a team signing him to come in and be one of their top two or three receivers.

I think he's talking about how Robinson won't learn if somebody keeps giving him another chance, and it doesn't matter where he is on the depth chart, for him to learn his lesson, he has to hit absolutely rock bottom

PACKmanN
09-05-2006, 10:38 PM
Can someone clear something if we sign him would be be able to play this year? If so how?

dc22
09-05-2006, 10:44 PM
Can someone clear something if we sign him would be be able to play this year? If so how?

I read somewhere that if he is suspended by the league it will take place after this season

DHVF
09-05-2006, 11:03 PM
i think it would go Diver jennings/ferguson Robinson, and martin. but ill be surprised if robinson gets signed.If Robinson gets signed I believe he'll eventually work his way to #2 as he is a very good WR, just with some problems. I really don't view him as anywhat of a clubhouse problem and don't believe that this is a big enough issue to give up on him (either player wise or character wise).

bearsfan_51
09-05-2006, 11:13 PM
just read on packers news that koren will not be prosicuted until after the 2006 season and this means that the nfl officials will not be able to punish him until after the season is over.... so i dunnno what to think?


nice...sign him...yeah, he's a charcter issue, but green bay is a relatively small and boring town...not a lot to do to get yourself in trouble..
Do you have bars? Do you have roads? That's probably enough for him to get in trouble.

As for Vince saying that the team has nothing to lose. Here's something. Koren gets drunk, drives his car, and hits someone. Sound crazy? Not really. How's that for PR in a town completely obsessed with their football team and its image.

I'm not against giving the guy a second chance. What I am against, is rushing someone back that has a disease simply because he has the ability to play football when really he needs to check his ass into a rehabilitation center and focus on things that really matter, like living.

johbur
09-05-2006, 11:16 PM
The way I see it, so he has a problem with alcohol.... yeah so does the whole state of wisconsin.

This last time he only blew a .11 BAC... a large number of people drive to work the next day and could still blow a .11! Sign him and let him assimilate into the Wisconsin population

:lol:

It would be a good signing for the Packers. I have not seen a link, but I read on another forum that he doesn't go on trial until after the season. He could play for a year, make some decent cash and get another year on his pension, then he'd likely have to serve his year suspension for the 2007 season.

TitleTown088
09-05-2006, 11:19 PM
i think it would go Diver jennings/ferguson Robinson, and martin. but ill be surprised if robinson gets signed.If Robinson gets signed I believe he'll eventually work his way to #2 as he is a very good WR, just with some problems. I really don't view him as anywhat of a clubhouse problem and don't believe that this is a big enough issue to give up on him (either player wise or character wise).

nope cause jennings is gonna be much better than koren, much much better. :wink:

yourfavestoner
09-06-2006, 12:12 AM
just read on packers news that koren will not be prosicuted until after the 2006 season and this means that the nfl officials will not be able to punish him until after the season is over.... so i dunnno what to think?


nice...sign him...yeah, he's a charcter issue, but green bay is a relatively small and boring town...not a lot to do to get yourself in trouble..
Do you have bars? Do you have roads? That's probably enough for him to get in trouble.

As for Vince saying that the team has nothing to lose. Here's something. Koren gets drunk, drives his car, and hits someone. Sound crazy? Not really. How's that for PR in a town completely obsessed with their football team and its image.

I'm not against giving the guy a second chance. What I am against, is rushing someone back that has a disease simply because he has the ability to play football when really he needs to check his ass into a rehabilitation center and focus on things that really matter, like living.

I completely agree right now. Football should be the last thing on his mind, and I think that any team willing to sign him is being incredibly selfish, and is showing a complete disregard to Koren's safety and the safety of the people of Green Bay. He needs help before he needs football.

Shiver
09-06-2006, 01:40 AM
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thule
09-06-2006, 01:45 AM
IDK if GB is the best place for him...but atleast he doesn't have to worry about traveling on alot of highways doing 100 he can be doing it in the city instead.

Nitschke-Hawk
09-06-2006, 11:02 AM
Anybody putting him in the same category as T.O. and such should stop. Those people don't have this type of problem. I think the theory about rooting for him, or doubting him and guys like him depending on what team they're on has some truth to it, but not with me. I was sad to see what happened in Minnesota. People are talking about him having to hit rock bottom, I think he already has. You don't think he realizes what he's done? Any farther would be killing himself or end up killing somebody else because of this disease. Have some sympathy. People make mistakes in the beginning (starting to drink) and sometimes they lead down a long road like this. You can't act like like he wants it to be this way and you can't act like he is a disgrace to all of us, NFL players are people too.

I want him to be in football, I want him in football now because the fan in me wants him to sign with the Packers. From a well-being stand point, I don't what's best for him right now and who really does know whats best for him right now. If he doesn't have football he might just drink all the time, or he might be rehabing. Who knows what could happen. For what it's worth,(which should be a lot) when he visited Green Bay he spent the majority of his time with Brett Favre, who was addicted to painkillers in 1996, I wonder what they talked about. :idea:

TitleTown088
09-06-2006, 01:04 PM
just read on packers news that koren will not be prosicuted until after the 2006 season and this means that the nfl officials will not be able to punish him until after the season is over.... so i dunnno what to think?


nice...sign him...yeah, he's a charcter issue, but green bay is a relatively small and boring town...not a lot to do to get yourself in trouble...and packers haven't had a kick returner since desmond howard.

dude the town on mankato Minn where he got arrested is prob the biggest **** hole of a town ever and he still managed to ge in trouble there. he'd be more likely to get busted in a small town because the only thing to do is get hammered.

njx9
09-06-2006, 01:24 PM
Anybody putting him in the same category as T.O. and such should stop. Those people don't have this type of problem. I think the theory about rooting for him, or doubting him and guys like him depending on what team they're on has some truth to it, but not with me. I was sad to see what happened in Minnesota. People are talking about him having to hit rock bottom, I think he already has. You don't think he realizes what he's done? Any farther would be killing himself or end up killing somebody else because of this disease. Have some sympathy. People make mistakes in the beginning (starting to drink) and sometimes they lead down a long road like this. You can't act like like he wants it to be this way and you can't act like he is a disgrace to all of us, NFL players are people too.

I want him to be in football, I want him in football now because the fan in me wants him to sign with the Packers. From a well-being stand point, I don't what's best for him right now and who really does know whats best for him right now. If he doesn't have football he might just drink all the time, or he might be rehabing. Who knows what could happen. For what it's worth,(which should be a lot) when he visited Green Bay he spent the majority of his time with Brett Favre, who was addicted to painkillers in 1996, I wonder what they talked about. :idea:

don't put him in the same category as Owens? why not? you're giving both of them as many chances as they want/need/can get just because they could improve your football team. i have all the sympathy in the world for an alcoholic who acknowledges the problem and takes steps to prevent it. driving while drunk is NOT even VAGUELY close to attempting to prevent the situation. as far as i'm concerned, DWI's and DUI's are far WORSE than anything Owens has ever done. Owens is scum in the locker room. Robinson attempted to murder someone by getting behind the wheel.

like i said earlier: support all of them or support none of them. if you support everyone's second, third, eighth chance, then great, support robinson's. (keep in mind, this will be his FOURTH chance, not his second.)

really, in all honesty, i think it's borderline pathetic that the guy is even in the NFL anymore. he's been caught 4 times for the exact same thing and has yet to learn his lesson. i've got no idea why people think the fifth time is suddenly the charm. i've got no idea why people want this moron anywhere near their hometown (unless, of course, EVERYONE in your hometown drives 100mph while intoxicated, in which case i'd like to nominate all of you for Darwin awards). Let him hang out in rehab for a couple years, then see if he's worth signing. he's clearly not right now.

TitleTown088
09-06-2006, 01:54 PM
if they do sign him it probably wont be until after the 1st game so they dont have to pay him full salary and can cut him whenever they please.

09-06-2006, 02:11 PM
Anybody putting him in the same category as T.O. and such should stop. Those people don't have this type of problem. I think the theory about rooting for him, or doubting him and guys like him depending on what team they're on has some truth to it, but not with me. I was sad to see what happened in Minnesota. People are talking about him having to hit rock bottom, I think he already has. You don't think he realizes what he's done? Any farther would be killing himself or end up killing somebody else because of this disease. Have some sympathy. People make mistakes in the beginning (starting to drink) and sometimes they lead down a long road like this. You can't act like like he wants it to be this way and you can't act like he is a disgrace to all of us, NFL players are people too.

I want him to be in football, I want him in football now because the fan in me wants him to sign with the Packers. From a well-being stand point, I don't what's best for him right now and who really does know whats best for him right now. If he doesn't have football he might just drink all the time, or he might be rehabing. Who knows what could happen. For what it's worth,(which should be a lot) when he visited Green Bay he spent the majority of his time with Brett Favre, who was addicted to painkillers in 1996, I wonder what they talked about. :idea:

don't put him in the same category as Owens? why not? you're giving both of them as many chances as they want/need/can get just because they could improve your football team. i have all the sympathy in the world for an alcoholic who acknowledges the problem and takes steps to prevent it. driving while drunk is NOT even VAGUELY close to attempting to prevent the situation. as far as i'm concerned, DWI's and DUI's are far WORSE than anything Owens has ever done. Owens is scum in the locker room. Robinson attempted to murder someone by getting behind the wheel.

like i said earlier: support all of them or support none of them. if you support everyone's second, third, eighth chance, then great, support robinson's. (keep in mind, this will be his FOURTH chance, not his second.)

really, in all honesty, i think it's borderline pathetic that the guy is even in the NFL anymore. he's been caught 4 times for the exact same thing and has yet to learn his lesson. i've got no idea why people think the fifth time is suddenly the charm. i've got no idea why people want this moron anywhere near their hometown (unless, of course, EVERYONE in your hometown drives 100mph while intoxicated, in which case i'd like to nominate all of you for Darwin awards). Let him hang out in rehab for a couple years, then see if he's worth signing. he's clearly not right now.

I only read your first sentence, I'll read the rest later, but the difference is...

Koren has a disease, TO is a disease!!!

njx9
09-06-2006, 02:22 PM
Koren has a disease, TO is a disease!!!

sure, absolutely. i just think there's zero difference between a guy who's a jerk and a guy who becomes a jerk because he refuses to acknowledge that he's got a problem.

let me just clarify real quick: it just happens that he was picked up by the packers. i'm certainly not trying to pick on the packers or their fans.

09-06-2006, 02:39 PM
Koren has a disease, TO is a disease!!!

sure, absolutely. i just think there's zero difference between a guy who's a jerk and a guy who becomes a jerk because he refuses to acknowledge that he's got a problem.

let me just clarify real quick: it just happens that he was picked up by the packers. i'm certainly not trying to pick on the packers or their fans.

I know where you are coming from.

As far as I go, I think there is a difference in this situation. Just because he would not be on a team does not mean that he would be in rehab. Hopefully if he does come to GB, he can find strength in Favre, as it was mentioned before, he spent time in rehab.

Quick question, could the Vikings have kept Robinson without him counting on as one of the 53? I personally think if they could have, they should have.

Nitschke-Hawk
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Anybody putting him in the same category as T.O. and such should stop. Those people don't have this type of problem. I think the theory about rooting for him, or doubting him and guys like him depending on what team they're on has some truth to it, but not with me. I was sad to see what happened in Minnesota. People are talking about him having to hit rock bottom, I think he already has. You don't think he realizes what he's done? Any farther would be killing himself or end up killing somebody else because of this disease. Have some sympathy. People make mistakes in the beginning (starting to drink) and sometimes they lead down a long road like this. You can't act like like he wants it to be this way and you can't act like he is a disgrace to all of us, NFL players are people too.

I want him to be in football, I want him in football now because the fan in me wants him to sign with the Packers. From a well-being stand point, I don't what's best for him right now and who really does know whats best for him right now. If he doesn't have football he might just drink all the time, or he might be rehabing. Who knows what could happen. For what it's worth,(which should be a lot) when he visited Green Bay he spent the majority of his time with Brett Favre, who was addicted to painkillers in 1996, I wonder what they talked about. :idea:

don't put him in the same category as Owens? why not? you're giving both of them as many chances as they want/need/can get just because they could improve your football team. i have all the sympathy in the world for an alcoholic who acknowledges the problem and takes steps to prevent it. driving while drunk is NOT even VAGUELY close to attempting to prevent the situation. as far as i'm concerned, DWI's and DUI's are far WORSE than anything Owens has ever done. Owens is scum in the locker room. Robinson attempted to murder someone by getting behind the wheel.

like i said earlier: support all of them or support none of them. if you support everyone's second, third, eighth chance, then great, support robinson's. (keep in mind, this will be his FOURTH chance, not his second.)

really, in all honesty, i think it's borderline pathetic that the guy is even in the NFL anymore. he's been caught 4 times for the exact same thing and has yet to learn his lesson. i've got no idea why people think the fifth time is suddenly the charm. i've got no idea why people want this moron anywhere near their hometown (unless, of course, EVERYONE in your hometown drives 100mph while intoxicated, in which case i'd like to nominate all of you for Darwin awards). Let him hang out in rehab for a couple years, then see if he's worth signing. he's clearly not right now.

as far as i'm concerned, DWI's and DUI's are far WORSE than anything Owens has ever done. Owens is scum in the locker room. Robinson attempted to murder someone by getting behind the wheel. You just answered your own question.

Anybody putting him in the same category as T.O. and such should stop. Those people don't have this type of problem.
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I hate Owens as much as most, but these two guys problems are completely different, the only category they belong in together is being wide recievers that have problems and get extra chances. T.O. isn't an alcoholic and isn't putting his life in danger as well as others. Robinson was already in rehab and even went back this summer to help prevent a relapse, well he had one and this is what happened. At this point he's not getting drunk just cause he wants to, it's a mental problem and it's serious. Some people are weak minded and had reasons growing up to start doing things like this, some just make a mistake, who knows why he started. I question whether you've been close to anyone with any type of addiction before. If you have and it was fixed, sometimes it's just a bigger problem than we all think. Some people are fixed right away and some take a long time. I understand where you're coming from. I just think it's too harsh to be saying things like that. It doesn't matter how many chances addicts get, it's if they can beat it, it's obvious he's made a good effort to stop and wasn't successful. At this point you should be hoping he gets better, because nobody in their right mind would want to be in the situation he is. Yeah, you got teams wanting your services, and you're worth $1.1 million but that's not all that matters.

portermvp84
09-06-2006, 04:47 PM
the Packer's could use a full time drunk.

johbur
09-06-2006, 05:11 PM
Anybody putting him in the same category as T.O. and such should stop. Those people don't have this type of problem. I think the theory about rooting for him, or doubting him and guys like him depending on what team they're on has some truth to it, but not with me. I was sad to see what happened in Minnesota. People are talking about him having to hit rock bottom, I think he already has. You don't think he realizes what he's done? Any farther would be killing himself or end up killing somebody else because of this disease. Have some sympathy. People make mistakes in the beginning (starting to drink) and sometimes they lead down a long road like this. You can't act like like he wants it to be this way and you can't act like he is a disgrace to all of us, NFL players are people too.

I want him to be in football, I want him in football now because the fan in me wants him to sign with the Packers. From a well-being stand point, I don't what's best for him right now and who really does know whats best for him right now. If he doesn't have football he might just drink all the time, or he might be rehabing. Who knows what could happen. For what it's worth,(which should be a lot) when he visited Green Bay he spent the majority of his time with Brett Favre, who was addicted to painkillers in 1996, I wonder what they talked about. :idea:

don't put him in the same category as Owens? why not? you're giving both of them as many chances as they want/need/can get just because they could improve your football team. i have all the sympathy in the world for an alcoholic who acknowledges the problem and takes steps to prevent it. driving while drunk is NOT even VAGUELY close to attempting to prevent the situation. as far as i'm concerned, DWI's and DUI's are far WORSE than anything Owens has ever done. Owens is scum in the locker room. Robinson attempted to murder someone by getting behind the wheel.

like i said earlier: support all of them or support none of them. if you support everyone's second, third, eighth chance, then great, support robinson's. (keep in mind, this will be his FOURTH chance, not his second.)

really, in all honesty, i think it's borderline pathetic that the guy is even in the NFL anymore. he's been caught 4 times for the exact same thing and has yet to learn his lesson. i've got no idea why people think the fifth time is suddenly the charm. i've got no idea why people want this moron anywhere near their hometown (unless, of course, EVERYONE in your hometown drives 100mph while intoxicated, in which case i'd like to nominate all of you for Darwin awards). Let him hang out in rehab for a couple years, then see if he's worth signing. he's clearly not right now.

So true. I don't mind Koren coming to Packers, as I live far away. Knowing he's on the roads in GB, wouldn't that make some people nervous? And when (not if) he drives drunk again, what's the fall-out from him killing someone on the road?

That being said, at least he'd be going somewhere he'd be a drinking light-weight. The last game I went to at Lambeau involved everyone getting their drunk on at 7 am, having Bloody Mary's, Screwdrivers and beer along with Brats and hamburgers for breakfast. The eating and drinking went on non-stop until the game started at noon. Then Tampa Bay got smacked and Dorsey got hurt on a very hot Septmeber day...

The Legend
09-06-2006, 07:16 PM
"I just have a long history with Koren and wanted to bring him in, have a little chat, see how he's doing," Thompson said Tuesday.

Said McCarthy: "I was impressed with him as a person. It was a good visit. It was a situation where he has strong relationships with some people in the building and we just wanted to sit down and talk with him."

The Packers could sign Robinson even with the suspension hanging over his head because, should he be suspended, he would be able to play while waiting for his appeal to be heard. That tends to be a slow process and Robinson could play the whole season before knowing his fate.

The Packers currently have four wide receivers on the roster. A source said Thompson and his staff are acutely aware of the potential public-relations hit they could take if they sign Robinson, but at the same time, there is a feeling Robinson was on the right path and had a setback, as many alcoholics do.

Word of Robinson's visit came to light because the Packers were required by NFL rules to register his visit with the league office.

Asked if he'd have preferred to have kept Robinson's under wraps, Thompson said, "No, no. If I didn't want it to get out, I wouldn't have brought him in because you have to report it to the league office. I just wanted to see how he was doing. And he seems to be doing fine."

Nerv
09-07-2006, 12:03 AM
i don't want us to sign him. Thompson said he wants "packer people", and i don't see Robinson as a packer person.

Why? He loves to get drunk, seems exactly like a Packer/Wisconsin person to me.

swagger
09-07-2006, 12:59 AM
3. Robinson wants some revenge on the Vikings (Twice a Year) [aka LaVar & Owens]



May I ask what the hell Koren wants revenge for? For plucking him out of rehab after he self-imploded in Seattle and giving him a fresh start? For giving him the "Kory Stringer Good Guy Award" and the "Ed Block Award of Courage"? For giving him a multi-million dollar contract? For annointing him a #1 wide receiver?

Koren made his own bed.

njx9
09-07-2006, 08:26 AM
Anybody putting him in the same category as T.O. and such should stop. Those people don't have this type of problem. I think the theory about rooting for him, or doubting him and guys like him depending on what team they're on has some truth to it, but not with me. I was sad to see what happened in Minnesota. People are talking about him having to hit rock bottom, I think he already has. You don't think he realizes what he's done? Any farther would be killing himself or end up killing somebody else because of this disease. Have some sympathy. People make mistakes in the beginning (starting to drink) and sometimes they lead down a long road like this. You can't act like like he wants it to be this way and you can't act like he is a disgrace to all of us, NFL players are people too.

I want him to be in football, I want him in football now because the fan in me wants him to sign with the Packers. From a well-being stand point, I don't what's best for him right now and who really does know whats best for him right now. If he doesn't have football he might just drink all the time, or he might be rehabing. Who knows what could happen. For what it's worth,(which should be a lot) when he visited Green Bay he spent the majority of his time with Brett Favre, who was addicted to painkillers in 1996, I wonder what they talked about. :idea:

don't put him in the same category as Owens? why not? you're giving both of them as many chances as they want/need/can get just because they could improve your football team. i have all the sympathy in the world for an alcoholic who acknowledges the problem and takes steps to prevent it. driving while drunk is NOT even VAGUELY close to attempting to prevent the situation. as far as i'm concerned, DWI's and DUI's are far WORSE than anything Owens has ever done. Owens is scum in the locker room. Robinson attempted to murder someone by getting behind the wheel.

like i said earlier: support all of them or support none of them. if you support everyone's second, third, eighth chance, then great, support robinson's. (keep in mind, this will be his FOURTH chance, not his second.)

really, in all honesty, i think it's borderline pathetic that the guy is even in the NFL anymore. he's been caught 4 times for the exact same thing and has yet to learn his lesson. i've got no idea why people think the fifth time is suddenly the charm. i've got no idea why people want this moron anywhere near their hometown (unless, of course, EVERYONE in your hometown drives 100mph while intoxicated, in which case i'd like to nominate all of you for Darwin awards). Let him hang out in rehab for a couple years, then see if he's worth signing. he's clearly not right now.

as far as i'm concerned, DWI's and DUI's are far WORSE than anything Owens has ever done. Owens is scum in the locker room. Robinson attempted to murder someone by getting behind the wheel. You just answered your own question.

Anybody putting him in the same category as T.O. and such should stop. Those people don't have this type of problem.
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I hate Owens as much as most, but these two guys problems are completely different, the only category they belong in together is being wide recievers that have problems and get extra chances. T.O. isn't an alcoholic and isn't putting his life in danger as well as others. Robinson was already in rehab and even went back this summer to help prevent a relapse, well he had one and this is what happened. At this point he's not getting drunk just cause he wants to, it's a mental problem and it's serious. Some people are weak minded and had reasons growing up to start doing things like this, some just make a mistake, who knows why he started. I question whether you've been close to anyone with any type of addiction before. If you have and it was fixed, sometimes it's just a bigger problem than we all think. Some people are fixed right away and some take a long time. I understand where you're coming from. I just think it's too harsh to be saying things like that. It doesn't matter how many chances addicts get, it's if they can beat it, it's obvious he's made a good effort to stop and wasn't successful. At this point you should be hoping he gets better, because nobody in their right mind would want to be in the situation he is. Yeah, you got teams wanting your services, and you're worth $1.1 million but that's not all that matters.

all right, i think we're really agreeing here on most points. i was under the impression you were trying to make koren come off as this perfect angel in comparison to owens. since that's not the case, i think that part of the argument can die.

in regards to koren's alcoholism, absolutely. it's a disease and a serious problem and all that. otoh, i wouldn't recommend that any team sign a guy who's halfway through a stint in a methadone clinic, let alone one who's already relapsed.

he should be taking the money he's made over his career and getting himself taken care of, he should not be "rewarded" for relapsing with another big contract.

draftguru151
09-07-2006, 08:53 AM
He is actually signing or did he sign or are you guys just talking about him?

Vince Lombardi
09-07-2006, 10:04 AM
He is actually signing or did he sign or are you guys just talking about him?

No contract offers have been made yet. If GB does decide to sign him it won't be until after the first week when contracts are no longer guaranteed. As far as we all know this last arrest could (and should) have been the rock bottom for Koren and maybe he will turn his life in positive direction from here on. Unless anyone here personally knows Koren it's pretty futile to speculate on his mindset.

Nitschke-Hawk
09-07-2006, 11:12 AM
He is actually signing or did he sign or are you guys just talking about him?

No contract offers have been made yet. If GB does decide to sign him it won't be until after the first week when contracts are no longer guaranteed. As far as we all know this last arrest could (and should) have been the rock bottom for Koren and maybe he will turn his life in positive direction from here on. Unless anyone here personally knows Koren it's pretty futile to speculate on his mindset.

You are a wise descendent of the Great Vince Lombardi my friend.

portermvp84
09-07-2006, 12:38 PM
The Packers could use the wide reciver help. He would make a good additon to the team. He's number one wide material overall good skills, but problems off the feild.

needled24_7
09-07-2006, 01:18 PM
releasing Koren Robinson was the best thing we ever did.

jkpigskin
09-07-2006, 09:04 PM
releasing Koren Robinson was the best thing we ever did.

and drafting him was the worst(im assuming)?

johbur
09-09-2006, 01:58 AM
3. Robinson wants some revenge on the Vikings (Twice a Year) [aka LaVar & Owens]



May I ask what the hell Koren wants revenge for? For plucking him out of rehab after he self-imploded in Seattle and giving him a fresh start? For giving him the "Kory Stringer Good Guy Award" and the "Ed Block Award of Courage"? For giving him a multi-million dollar contract? For annointing him a #1 wide receiver?

Koren made his own bed.

Ahhh... But it's always what have you done for me lately. And the Vikings cut him, as they should have IMO. But these guys tend to be so ego-centric he'll think he was in the right, and that Minnetonka was in the wrong.

A shame the team gave him the Kory Stringer award. He's about as worthy as that as Yassir Arafat was in getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

Nitschke-Hawk
09-10-2006, 07:06 PM
We should sign him right now. Our kick returning was morbidly obese and we need another wide reciever now.

09-10-2006, 07:23 PM
The packers need some kind of help

njx9
09-10-2006, 07:24 PM
We should sign him right now. Our kick returning was morbidly obese and we need another wide reciever now.


will another WR really help? i mean, someone's still got to get them the ball.

09-10-2006, 07:26 PM
We should sign him right now. Our kick returning was morbidly obese and we need another wide reciever now.


will another WR really help? i mean, someone's still got to get them the ball.


and they need someone to block for whoever is throwing the ball

njx9
09-10-2006, 07:27 PM
We should sign him right now. Our kick returning was morbidly obese and we need another wide reciever now.


will another WR really help? i mean, someone's still got to get them the ball.


and they need someone to block for whoever is throwing the ball

i don't think koren does any of those things particularly well.

Nitschke-Hawk
09-10-2006, 07:49 PM
He's an above average wide reciever/kick returner which is two things we don't have enough of. There's no reason to get veteran o lineman to take over for the rookies. In fact they did pretty good today against the supposedly best defense in the league (it's baltimore my friends). Clifton and Tauscher had worse games. Ahman had 20 carries for 110 yards. (I'm saying this to show you they didn't do that bad, by no means am I bragging) We got nothing out of the kick returning game and a fumble on one of them, and we shoud've got something considering how many times the Bears kicked off. I bet the contract talks fire up this week. If not with him we need to find somebody, cause we don't have a kick returner at all.

The Legend
09-14-2006, 08:17 PM
He's an above average wide reciever/kick returner which is two things we don't have enough of. There's no reason to get veteran o lineman to take over for the rookies. In fact they did pretty good today against the supposedly best defense in the league (it's baltimore my friends). Clifton and Tauscher had worse games. Ahman had 20 carries for 110 yards. (I'm saying this to show you they didn't do that bad, by no means am I bragging) We got nothing out of the kick returning game and a fumble on one of them, and we shoud've got something considering how many times the Bears kicked off. I bet the contract talks fire up this week. If not with him we need to find somebody, cause we don't have a kick returner at all.

ya he did good

TitleTown088
09-14-2006, 09:43 PM
The Green Bay Packers have given me the opportunity, and I'm going to try to make this my home. I'm going to try to retire as a Green Bay Packer."


koren. Espn.com

yodabear
09-14-2006, 09:47 PM
The Green Bay Packers have given me the opportunity, and I'm going to try to make this my home. I'm going to try to retire as a Green Bay Packer."


koren. Espn.com

Translation:Wisconsin is the land of beer and cheese. Party time.

sweetness34
09-14-2006, 09:48 PM
The Green Bay Packers have given me the opportunity, and I'm going to try to make this my home. I'm going to try to retire as a Green Bay Packer."


koren. Espn.com

Translation:Wisconsin is the land of beer and cheese. Party time.

:lol:

The Legend
09-15-2006, 03:20 AM
The Green Bay Packers have given me the opportunity, and I'm going to try to make this my home. I'm going to try to retire as a Green Bay Packer."


koren. Espn.com

Translation:Wisconsin is the land of beer and cheese. Party time.

:lol:

maybe we will get ricky williams when he comes back how the the down in Wisconsin?

Ricky and Koren and 1 2 punch get your weed and beer from one place

portermvp84
09-15-2006, 10:22 AM
The Green Bay Packers have given me the opportunity, and I'm going to try to make this my home. I'm going to try to retire as a Green Bay Packer."


koren. Espn.com

Translation:Wisconsin is the land of beer and cheese. Party time.

:lol:

maybe we will get ricky williams when he comes back how the the down in Wisconsin?


Ricky and Koren and 1 2 punch get your weed and beer from one place


Cops will be all over that one I'll guarentee it lol.

Vince Lombardi
09-15-2006, 12:00 PM
The Green Bay Packers have given me the opportunity, and I'm going to try to make this my home. I'm going to try to retire as a Green Bay Packer."


koren. Espn.com

Translation:Wisconsin is the land of beer and cheese. Party time.

:lol:

maybe we will get ricky williams when he comes back how the the down in Wisconsin?

Ricky and Koren and 1 2 punch get your weed and beer from one place

Nah, Ricky is better off staying in Florida or Canada if he wants a good hook-up for the sticky-icky-ooowee!.

Nitschke-Hawk
09-15-2006, 12:12 PM
Ricky Williams is a hell of a player.

IBleedNavyandOrange
09-22-2006, 07:48 AM
Just read this and it cracked me up:

6. The Packers were crushed at home by Chicago, then decided it would be a good idea to sign Koren Robinson ... a guy who's struggled with drinking problems over the course of his career. Now he gets to live in a city where there's nothing to do, there's no black people and everyone loves to drink and eat bad food? Is this signing sponsored by Bad Idea Jeans? Normally I wear protection, but then I thought, "When am I gonna make it back to Haiti?"

From Bill Simmons on ESPN.com's Page 2

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060915

portermvp84
09-22-2006, 12:17 PM
Ricky Williams is a hell of a player.

When he's smoken some pot.

GB12
09-22-2006, 06:42 PM
Just read this and it cracked me up:

6. The Packers were crushed at home by Chicago, then decided it would be a good idea to sign Koren Robinson ... a guy who's struggled with drinking problems over the course of his career. Now he gets to live in a city where there's nothing to do, there's no black people and everyone loves to drink and eat bad food? Is this signing sponsored by Bad Idea Jeans? Normally I wear protection, but then I thought, "When am I gonna make it back to Haiti?"

From Bill Simmons on ESPN.com's Page 2

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060915

I can agree with all that except the bad food. We have some very good food(and a lot of fat people :lol: ).

Vince Lombardi
09-22-2006, 06:55 PM
Just read this and it cracked me up:

6. The Packers were crushed at home by Chicago, then decided it would be a good idea to sign Koren Robinson ... a guy who's struggled with drinking problems over the course of his career. Now he gets to live in a city where there's nothing to do, there's no black people and everyone loves to drink and eat bad food? Is this signing sponsored by Bad Idea Jeans? Normally I wear protection, but then I thought, "When am I gonna make it back to Haiti?"

From Bill Simmons on ESPN.com's Page 2

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060915

I can agree with all that except the bad food. We have some very good food(and a lot of fat people :lol: ).

I think he means food that's bad for you, not bad tasting. Nobody denys the deliciousness of brats and fried cheese curds!

GB12
09-22-2006, 07:01 PM
Just read this and it cracked me up:

6. The Packers were crushed at home by Chicago, then decided it would be a good idea to sign Koren Robinson ... a guy who's struggled with drinking problems over the course of his career. Now he gets to live in a city where there's nothing to do, there's no black people and everyone loves to drink and eat bad food? Is this signing sponsored by Bad Idea Jeans? Normally I wear protection, but then I thought, "When am I gonna make it back to Haiti?"

From Bill Simmons on ESPN.com's Page 2

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060915

I can agree with all that except the bad food. We have some very good food(and a lot of fat people :lol: ).

I think he means food that's bad for you, not bad tasting. Nobody denys the deliciousness of brats and fried cheese curds!

Ok good, because if he meant bad tasting there is no way in hell he has actually tasted it. And for the record Brats with a stripe of spicy brown mustard is real man's food and kicks the **** out of those silly hotdogs piled with topings.

09-22-2006, 10:21 PM
Just read this and it cracked me up:

6. The Packers were crushed at home by Chicago, then decided it would be a good idea to sign Koren Robinson ... a guy who's struggled with drinking problems over the course of his career. Now he gets to live in a city where there's nothing to do, there's no black people and everyone loves to drink and eat bad food? Is this signing sponsored by Bad Idea Jeans? Normally I wear protection, but then I thought, "When am I gonna make it back to Haiti?"

From Bill Simmons on ESPN.com's Page 2

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060915

I can agree with all that except the bad food. We have some very good food(and a lot of fat people :lol: ).

I think he means food that's bad for you, not bad tasting. Nobody denys the deliciousness of brats and fried cheese curds!

Ok good, because if he meant bad tasting there is no way in hell he has actually tasted it. And for the record Brats with a stripe of spicy brown mustard is real man's food and kicks the *********** out of those silly hotdogs piled with topings.

And to be able to wash it down with a nice cold beer...oooweee that'll hit the spot... even if you are 21, no body will think twice