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JDRaymond
09-11-2006, 12:38 PM
I dont want to get ahead of myself just after one game but Plummer was horrible with 3 picks. I know cutler is a rookie but look at his preseason stats 40-62 for 561 yards, 4 td 1 int, and a qb rating of 108.3. I know that was mainly against second team defenses but if plummer plays bad in week two iam all for the broncos playing cutler.

Iamcanadian
09-11-2006, 12:58 PM
95% of rookie QB's play miserable football in year one. Shanahan isn't going to turn to Cutler until the Broncos are eliminated from the playoffs or close to it, anything else and he would be giving up on the season and I don't think he is prepared to do so. The same goes for Tony Romo in Dallas.

Number 10
09-11-2006, 01:01 PM
Denver is a system where a rookie QB could win, a la Big Ben. If Denver starts off 0-3, I think Cutler will be named the starter.

CT Bronco Fan
09-11-2006, 01:01 PM
Cutler will not play this year, no matter what.

bsaza2358
09-11-2006, 01:01 PM
The Broncos believe they are Super Bowl contenders right now. Yes, they had a poor week 1, and Plummer reeked. However, I don't believe they will be playing Cutler at all this season. Plummer gives them the best chance to win right now. With their payroll and the money they have invested, the Broncos are built to win now. Period. They're not going to throw the season away developing Cutler, when they think they can win.

Now, if they fall out of contention and start something like 1-6, Cutler will get his shot. Still, without injury or continual 3 INT games from Plummer, Cutler will not see the field.

JDRaymond
09-11-2006, 01:02 PM
95% of rookie QB's play miserable football in year one. Shanahan isn't going to turn to Cutler until the Broncos are eliminated from the playoffs or close to it, anything else and he would be giving up on the season and I don't think he is prepared to do so. The same goes for Tony Romo in Dallas.

i guess, but in my view cutler dosent look like your average rookie he looks better.

slightlyaraiderfan
09-11-2006, 01:03 PM
Cutler was going againist 2-3rd stringers, his numbers were a bit inflated. Plummer is proned to turn the ball over, so of course, if this continues...Cutler should start.

Iamcanadian
09-11-2006, 01:12 PM
95% of rookie QB's play miserable football in year one. Shanahan isn't going to turn to Cutler until the Broncos are eliminated from the playoffs or close to it, anything else and he would be giving up on the season and I don't think he is prepared to do so. The same goes for Tony Romo in Dallas.

i guess, but in my view cutler dosent look like your average rookie he looks better.


I've seen 3rd string QB's look great in preseason but that never got them anywhere. There is a huge difference between playing in a preseason game against second stringers and starting in the NFL. Cutler, IMO will be a very solid NFL starting QB, but like Palmer, Eli and Smith, he isn't ready just yet. Shanahan won't turn to him unless he has given up on the season, and that's not going to happen unless they get off to a totally miserable season, something like 1-7. Then they would turn to Cutler to prepare him for next year.

P-L
09-11-2006, 01:25 PM
No they should not turn to Cutler. Plummer completed less than 45% of his passes and threw two picks in week one last year. He ended up having one of the best years of his career.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-11-2006, 01:45 PM
If Cutler plays this year that means that the Broncos are aiming for the future and have no superbowl plans this year.

Shiver
09-11-2006, 01:46 PM
A conditional NO from me. If Jake Plummer plays as bad as he did yesterday, at home against the Damon Huard-led Kansas City Chiefs, he should be benched.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
09-11-2006, 02:25 PM
its impossible to say anything about that yet, obviously if Plummer continues to play this way we will see him by week 7 or 8, but odds are that uwon't see him unless it comes to desperate measures. u can never be to sure with Plummer who has always been very radical in his play.

if they have a losing record going into week 7 or 8 is where i see shanahan drawing a line, but with the talent on that team i don't see that happening.

personally i really want to see Cutler, but since he's in the Chargers division i would rather he's on the bench because he's goin to be special

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-11-2006, 02:42 PM
No they should not turn to Cutler. Plummer completed less than 45% of his passes and threw two picks in week one last year. He ended up having one of the best years of his career.


And the year before that I think he threw like 3 picks. Actually, it mighta been 2 years before, against the Bengals. He ended up doing alright. He always starts slow.

Brodeur
09-11-2006, 02:59 PM
95% of rookie QB's play miserable football in year one. Shanahan isn't going to turn to Cutler until the Broncos are eliminated from the playoffs or close to it, anything else and he would be giving up on the season and I don't think he is prepared to do so. The same goes for Tony Romo in Dallas.

The same Tony Romo who has been in the league for what, 4 years now? Not really a comparable thing, although Romo still hasn't exactly played any regular season football but still. The Broncos wouldn't be stupid enough to go to Cutler this soon.

ninerfan
09-11-2006, 04:35 PM
Damn it we're 1 week in and its already started

The Legend
09-11-2006, 04:39 PM
Cutler will not play this year, no matter what.

unless the snake gets hurt

Namy
09-11-2006, 06:44 PM
Cutler was going againist 2-3rd stringers, his numbers were a bit inflated. Plummer is proned to turn the ball over, so of course, if this continues...Cutler should start.
That's pretty irelevant as Cutler was playing with 2-3rd string offensive unit... so it balances out. Anyway, I'm not advocating Cutler's entry YET. But... tomorrow's game is huge for Plummer (believe it or not). I think most Broncos fans are patient enough to accept this first loss (since we had a similar start last season), but if we lose to rival KC at HOME with a bad performance from Jake again... you can expect the majority of Broncos fans to pull for Cutler... our system does not demanad much out of a QB except efficiency (like the Steelers... we have a solid running game and defense). As long as Cutler can do his "role", he will be fine since he has as much poise as any rookie QB.

RCAChainGang
09-11-2006, 06:52 PM
Ok all I have to say is no... Cutler isn't ready. Even though he looked great in preseason i would keep Jake Plummer in. He did the same thing in the opener in opener last year. Hell bounce back.

Shane P. Hallam
09-11-2006, 07:24 PM
Plummer is the guy you want. Yeah, he had a bad game, but he will bounce back. I think Shanny trusts him, but they know Cutler is the future.

eacantdraft
09-11-2006, 07:54 PM
After one game you are giving up on a 32 year old QB who took you to the AFC championship game last year?

Wait until you are at least 6 games into the season before making a change.

Immaculate Tackle
09-11-2006, 08:03 PM
Do the Broncos want to win a Super Bowl? If so, they have to stick with Plummer, because at least he has a reasonable shot of winning a playoff game.

njx9
09-11-2006, 08:08 PM
:roll:

i can't believe enough people think cutler will get in this year that this thread still exists. i HATE plummer and i know cutler isn't ready.

eazyb81
09-11-2006, 08:11 PM
:roll:

i can't believe enough people think cutler will get in this year that this thread still exists. i HATE plummer and i know cutler isn't ready.

You really don't think there is a chance that Cutler plays SOMETIME this year? Heck, the Denver writers are already calling for him.

It seems like Bronco fans have a love/hate relationship with Plummer, and I wouldn't be shocked if Shanny made a switch later in the season if Plummer continues to play like crap.

draftguru151
09-11-2006, 08:17 PM
:roll:

i can't believe enough people think cutler will get in this year that this thread still exists. i HATE plummer and i know cutler isn't ready.

Cutler was born ready.

njx9
09-11-2006, 08:47 PM
:roll:

i can't believe enough people think cutler will get in this year that this thread still exists. i HATE plummer and i know cutler isn't ready.

You really don't think there is a chance that Cutler plays SOMETIME this year? Heck, the Denver writers are already calling for him.

It seems like Bronco fans have a love/hate relationship with Plummer, and I wouldn't be shocked if Shanny made a switch later in the season if Plummer continues to play like crap.

name two denver writers who weren't born with half a brain =P

i think we would literally have to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 0-8 before cutler would see any meaningful time.

i wouldn't rule out him getting snaps in a blowout situation (but i think that applies to ANY nfl backup qb), but i HIGHLY doubt he gets in.

shanny knows that if this team is going to have any real degree of success, plummer is the guy who will get us there. also keep in mind that if green is out for any significant stretch of time, KC won't be looked at as a major threat (unless huard turns into brady) and assuming rivers isn't an overnight success, it's conceivable that a team could win the division at 10-6 or even 9-7 (if huard and rivers are much worse than advertised). i can't see shanny giving up on that chance.

also, keep in mind that shanny is a big plummer fan. drafting a QB may not seem like a major vote of confidence, but just two years ago, shanny rewarded plummer with a huge bonus. that was back when plummer was a below average nfl starter.

smittyjs
09-11-2006, 09:06 PM
Cutler will lead Denver to the superbowl!!!!!!!!!

RCAChainGang
09-11-2006, 09:09 PM
:roll:

i can't believe enough people think cutler will get in this year that this thread still exists. i HATE plummer and i know cutler isn't ready.

You really don't think there is a chance that Cutler plays SOMETIME this year? Heck, the Denver writers are already calling for him.

It seems like Bronco fans have a love/hate relationship with Plummer, and I wouldn't be shocked if Shanny made a switch later in the season if Plummer continues to play like crap.

name two denver writers who weren't born with half a brain =P

i think we would literally have to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 0-8 before cutler would see any meaningful time.

i wouldn't rule out him getting snaps in a blowout situation (but i think that applies to ANY nfl backup qb), but i HIGHLY doubt he gets in.

shanny knows that if this team is going to have any real degree of success, plummer is the guy who will get us there. also keep in mind that if green is out for any significant stretch of time, KC won't be looked at as a major threat (unless huard turns into brady) and assuming rivers isn't an overnight success, it's conceivable that a team could win the division at 10-6 or even 9-7 (if huard and rivers are much worse than advertised). i can't see shanny giving up on that chance.

also, keep in mind that shanny is a big plummer fan. drafting a QB may not seem like a major vote of confidence, but just two years ago, shanny rewarded plummer with a huge bonus. that was back when plummer was a below average nfl starter.

I 100% agree. Cutler is a QB for the future he's there to learn, not to compete for the starting job. He'll have it in a few years, but your kidding yourself if you think Cutler beats out Plummer.

draftguru151
09-11-2006, 09:10 PM
Cutler will lead Denver to the superbowl!!!!!!!!!

Every third year. Denver, Miami, Titans, of course Titans draft Earl Bennett by this time and even Young can't mess that up.

RCAChainGang
09-11-2006, 09:20 PM
This thread really just shows what teams think about there 1rst round picks. Most teams are talking about this with there rookie QB's. I know you guys love Cutler, but seriously look at it more closely. Plummer brought you to the AFC championship and finally stoped the freakin Patriots. That is an awesome year. Now he has a bad opener and many Broncos fans are voting for Cutler. Jake has this starting spot and one bad game even 10 bad games arn't gonna take it away from him.

draftguru151
09-11-2006, 09:22 PM
Just so you guys know me and smitty are joking.

RCAChainGang
09-11-2006, 09:25 PM
Just so you guys know me and smitty are joking.

Thats still 10 people who don't have faith in Plummer. :(

njx9
09-11-2006, 09:35 PM
plummer is a terrible, terrible nfl quarterback. i hate him more than i've likely hated any other broncos player in my life (though i hate dan reeves more than most other people on earth regardless of football).

but, i still think that he'll turn it around enough to at least make it a worthwhile season.

RCAChainGang
09-11-2006, 09:36 PM
plummer is a terrible, terrible nfl quarterback. i hate him more than i've likely hated any other broncos player in my life (though i hate dan reeves more than most other people on earth regardless of football).

but, i still think that he'll turn it around enough to at least make it a worthwhile season.

Why do you hate him. He took a while to get good but he''s a good QB. What is so worthless about him?

njx9
09-11-2006, 10:08 PM
plummer is a terrible, terrible nfl quarterback. i hate him more than i've likely hated any other broncos player in my life (though i hate dan reeves more than most other people on earth regardless of football).

but, i still think that he'll turn it around enough to at least make it a worthwhile season.

Why do you hate him. He took a while to get good but he''s a good QB. What is so worthless about him?

briefly, he's an idiot. if you pressure him, he makes stupid plays. it's such an obvious problem it's shocking to me that more teams don't just send the farm at him every play. he's not a good decision maker and will almost always make at least two or three bonehead plays per game. this was ok last year because, for whatever reason, the other team rarely took advantage. this is not good in games like the last game in which the other team DOES take advantage.

jake further has never been more than a slightly above average quarterback skill wise. his arm isn't great, he can run a bit, but i wouldn't say he's enough better at that than anyone else to make up for the passing deficiencies.

he's a terrible pocket passer. if he's not out on a bootleg or scrambling, his accuracy is horrible. he still often locks onto one receiver (as in, rod smith on the last int in the rams game).

and really, i don't know that he's all that well respected in the locker room.

eacantdraft
09-12-2006, 07:41 AM
Cutler will definately be playing next year unless Plummer leads them to the Super Bowl. First round QB's don't sit more than two seasons. Look at what happened in San Diego with the Chargers shipping out Drew Brees despite Brees being only 27 and having two very good years.

This year the team belongs to Jake Plummer, one or two games don't decide a season. Especially with the AFC West beginning to look like the NFC West, one good team, a .500 team and two scrubs.

portermvp84
09-12-2006, 08:02 AM
No he still needs more time to learn.

njx9
09-12-2006, 07:52 PM
Cutler will definately be playing next year unless Plummer leads them to the Super Bowl. First round QB's don't sit more than two seasons. Look at what happened in San Diego with the Chargers shipping out Drew Brees despite Brees being only 27 and having two very good years.

This year the team belongs to Jake Plummer, one or two games don't decide a season. Especially with the AFC West beginning to look like the NFC West, one good team, a .500 team and two scrubs.

what in the hell does that have to do with anything? he's a rookie this year, thus, sitting next year wouldn't even really be all that close to "more than two years" unless you have a difficult time counting to two. either way, i'm going to chalk this up to yet another poorly thought out eacantdraft post. so far, you're batting 1.000.