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intergalacticspacemonkey
09-11-2006, 02:42 PM
Both Brett Favre and Drew Bledsoe struggled in their opening game and there has been a lot of talk about both of them being benched. My question is who would you bench first and why. On one hand you have Drew Bledsoe who is slow and inconsistent, but he is also a veteran and could pull it together. If you benched him your going with an unproven Tony Romo and a QB controversy which could divide the team. Romo is also a mobile QB who outperformed Bledsoe in the preseason and did it consistently. It comes down to who gives you the best chance to win. Then there is Brett Favre and the Packers. The Packers are terrible and aren't going anywhere fast. Favre still has some talent left, but he is getting older and can't do it all by himself. He is also hindering the progress of Aaron Rodgers by starting. The question is does Brett sit to pave a way for the future which is already under way or keep your pride and keep going out their every Sunday. Then on the otherside of the coin, Rodgers hasn't blown away the coaches either. He still is probably a year away from even beginning to make an impact.

My conclusion: Bench Brett Favre before Drew Bledsoe. The Cowboys are still considered a playoff team and this was the first game. Plus Bledsoe didn't get much work in with Terrell Owens which could of also made a big difference. While the Packers are absolutley terrible. Instead of getting shutout with Favre behind the gun, have Rodgers do it and gain valuable experience of learning to read defenses and so forth. In the end, the lack of talent to win this season is the ultimate reason that Favre should be benched before Bledsoe.

Admin Edit: I included Plummer.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-11-2006, 02:43 PM
Favre for sure, the Packers are going to be a horrible team no matter what so you might as well get the young guy in, but that will never happen because the Packers wouldn't have the guts to bench him.

TitleTown088
09-11-2006, 03:29 PM
Favre for sure, the Packers are going to be a horrible team no matter what so you might as well get the young guy in, but that will never happen because the Packers wouldn't have the guts to bench him.
I'd love to see the coach that benches favre is his first year as a head coach. people from wisconsin would have his head on a stake. ... PLus favre didn't really play terrible either. He was playing agianst a good defense with inexpirance all around him. The packers have 23 rookies on their roster i think. It's gonna take time before everyone gets onthe same page.

09-11-2006, 03:36 PM
Favre for sure, the Packers are going to be a horrible team no matter what so you might as well get the young guy in, but that will never happen because the Packers wouldn't have the guts to bench him.
I'd love to see the coach that benches favre is his first year as a head coach. people from wisconsin would have his head on a stake. ... PLus favre didn't really play terrible either. He was playing agianst a good defense with inexpirance all around him. The packers have 23 rookies on their roster i think. It's gonna take time before everyone gets onthe same page.


That is BS favre play horrible and you know it. Explain thoes 2 ints please.

Staubach12
09-11-2006, 03:47 PM
Favre then Bledsoe then Plummer.

draftguru151
09-11-2006, 03:48 PM
Bench Culpepper! Put in Joey!

J/p, but I wouldn't mind seeing it, just for the hell of it.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
09-11-2006, 03:50 PM
ya those ints were bad, but were they both not in the 4th of a blowout??

i'm not sure if it all goes onto brett. seems like just an easy target, u can't say that his team is awesome and it was soley him who lost. he wasn't special, and those 2 ints were brutal, but its one game and i see no reason for EVERYTHING to fall on Favre

SuperMcGee
09-11-2006, 03:53 PM
We want the Romo!

TitleTown088
09-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Favre for sure, the Packers are going to be a horrible team no matter what so you might as well get the young guy in, but that will never happen because the Packers wouldn't have the guts to bench him.
I'd love to see the coach that benches favre is his first year as a head coach. people from wisconsin would have his head on a stake. ... PLus favre didn't really play terrible either. He was playing agianst a good defense with inexpirance all around him. The packers have 23 rookies on their roster i think. It's gonna take time before everyone gets onthe same page.


That is BS favre play horrible and you know it. Explain thoes 2 ints please.

Those two INts didn't matter the game was lost by then dude he was trying to make somthing outta nothing. and one was even all his fault it was a blown route by jennings. I'm not saying favre is the number 1 QB in the league, but look at what he's working with,(Inexpiranced players for the most part) seriously get off his nuts and give the man a few games to work with all these new faces before you tell him to throw in the towel.

TitleTown088
09-11-2006, 03:57 PM
ya those ints were bad, but were they both not in the 4th of a blowout??

i'm not sure if it all goes onto brett. seems like just an easy target, u can't say that his team is awesome and it was soley him who lost. he wasn't special, and those 2 ints were brutal, but its one game and i see no reason for EVERYTHING to fall on Favre

exactly.

danman253
09-11-2006, 04:09 PM
Favre for sure, the Packers are going to be a horrible team no matter what so you might as well get the young guy in, but that will never happen because the Packers wouldn't have the guts to bench him.
I'd love to see the coach that benches favre is his first year as a head coach. people from wisconsin would have his head on a stake. ... PLus favre didn't really play terrible either. He was playing agianst a good defense with inexpirance all around him. The packers have 23 rookies on their roster i think. It's gonna take time before everyone gets onthe same page.I really, really hope you are kidding. Favre was awful.

They should bench him. They need to build for the future, get Rodgers some PT, so you can build. Favre has even hinted that he doesn't wanna play for that team any more. Not playing ROdgers would be moronic.

nobodyinparticular
09-11-2006, 04:16 PM
Kerry Collins and Daunte Culpepper simultaneously.

drowe
09-11-2006, 04:19 PM
favre played decent up until desperation time...the 2 picks were deep balls in the 4th quarter.

09-11-2006, 04:20 PM
favre played decent up until desperation time...the 2 picks were deep balls in the 4th quarter.


just curious, whats your favorite team?

drowe
09-11-2006, 04:24 PM
favre played decent up until desperation time...the 2 picks were deep balls in the 4th quarter.


just curious, whats your favorite team?

the packers..i'm from green bay...might sound like a homer...but its true...he made the throws and made good decisions up until the game was outa reach...then he went for the big play...i know the stat line looks bad..but if you watched the game, he did allright. it pains me to say this, but the packers lost because the bears were the better team...there were some bs calls, but they wouldn't have changed the outcome.

now i'm curious, did you watch the entire game, or just see the highlights and stat line?

ninerfan
09-11-2006, 04:26 PM
its time to see what a-rod has got

The Legend
09-11-2006, 04:32 PM
anybody see the interview favre say that if he wants to start and they dont want him to start then thay may have to trade him so he will never not start

09-11-2006, 06:31 PM
favre played decent up until desperation time...the 2 picks were deep balls in the 4th quarter.


just curious, whats your favorite team?

You shouldnt be allowed to talk, I just completly block out ur posts at this point. There moronic, they have no point, nor contribute to the argument. So please, if you have nothing smart to post, dont post at all.

RCAChainGang
09-11-2006, 06:35 PM
I don't think you bench any of them you get something for um. What would the 49ers do for a guy like brett. If you had to bench um I would bench Favre.

09-11-2006, 06:37 PM
its only week 1, no need to bench anyone just yet

smittyjs
09-11-2006, 06:39 PM
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/33/335512.jpg :wink:

09-11-2006, 06:39 PM
why would you bench cutler? :lol:

RCAChainGang
09-11-2006, 06:40 PM
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/33/335512.jpg :wink:

I say bench collins! haha... Did you hear the Titans fans: VOLEK!!! VOLEK!!! VOLEK!!!

draftguru151
09-11-2006, 06:42 PM
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/33/335512.jpg :wink:

a.k.a the future of the NFL.

smittyjs
09-11-2006, 06:44 PM
why would you bench cutler? :lol:

Your joking right? I meant the snake if not.....

09-11-2006, 06:45 PM
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/33/335512.jpg :wink:

a.k.a the future of the NFL.

ahem

http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0511/nfl_a_leinart_275.jpg

09-11-2006, 06:45 PM
why would you bench cutler? :lol:

Your joking right? I meant the snake if not.....

yes. hence the smilie

draftguru151
09-11-2006, 07:00 PM
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/33/335512.jpg :wink:

a.k.a the future of the NFL.

ahem

http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0511/nfl_a_leinart_275.jpg

a.k.a. the other future of the NFL. :lol:

Someone post a VY picture pleeeeeease.

smittyjs
09-11-2006, 07:09 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/vinceyoung.gif
You can't teach that.... :shock:
Go ahead and give him his MVP award. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGb1PO6jt-E 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADh52Uf2EwE :shock:
http://media.theinsiders.com/Media/HS_Football/44_Vince-Young-Sitting.JPG
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/images/2004_05/007/young_vince_400_40.jpg
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2006/01/05/PH2006010500133.jpg
http://www.thesunblog.com/sports/archives/Vince_Young.jpg
http://www.espn.go.com/media/pg2/2006/0309/photo/a_young_195.jpg
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/09/11/PH2005091100020.jpg
http://www.texansrock.com/files/images/vince%20young%20pro%20day.jpg
http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/image_lib/young_titans_050806_300.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/09/01/bc.fbn.titans.packers.ap/T1_0901_young.jpg
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2006/05/05/vyoung.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/michael_silver/05/11/titans.fisher/p1_young_gallery.jpg
i couldn't help myself......... :D

draftguru151
09-11-2006, 07:10 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/vinceyoung.gif
You can't teach that.... :shock:
Go ahead and give him his MVP award. 8)

a.k.a. out of the league in 5 years.

Ho0k Em'
09-11-2006, 07:12 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/vinceyoung.gif
You can't teach that.... :shock:
Go ahead and give him his MVP award. 8)

a.k.a. out of the league in 5 years.

Idk he looks pretty accurate to me.

smittyjs
09-11-2006, 07:16 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/vinceyoung.gif
You can't teach that.... :shock:
Go ahead and give him his MVP award. 8)

a.k.a. out of the league in 5 years.

Idk he looks pretty accurate to me.

I know that was a great throw.

smittyjs
09-11-2006, 07:21 PM
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/33/335512.jpg :wink:

a.k.a the future of the NFL.

ahem

http://espn-att.starwave.com/photo/2006/0511/nfl_a_leinart_275.jpg

http://www.clubplanet.com/news/matt%20leinart%20and%20paris%20hilton.jpgand
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/specials/preview/2006/08/30/bc.fbn.leinart.baby.ap/p1_brynn.jpgWhat a PIMP
http://i4.tinypic.com/2exx07c.jpg[/img]

draftguru151
09-11-2006, 07:21 PM
The funny thing is that is how bad his release is. :lol:

09-11-2006, 07:27 PM
http://www.trojanwire.com/images/Vince_Young_Wonderlic.jpg

TitleTown088
09-11-2006, 07:57 PM
favre played decent up until desperation time...the 2 picks were deep balls in the 4th quarter.


just curious, whats your favorite team?

You shouldnt be allowed to talk, I just completly block out ur posts at this point. There moronic, they have no point, nor contribute to the argument. So please, if you have nothing smart to post, dont post at all.

are you talking about ST21 , because if so i COMPLETELY agree.

yourfavestoner
09-11-2006, 08:38 PM
Maybe the Packers will get lucky, and Favre will just decide to walk away. I doubt it happens though. He has too much pride.

Vikes99ej
09-11-2006, 09:07 PM
I was going to bench Plummer, but then I saw he was facing the Chiefs.

yodabear
09-12-2006, 12:36 AM
GUS FEROTTE TIME!

ncbigbody
09-12-2006, 01:05 AM
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/specials/preview/2006/08/31/bc.fbn.cowboys.romo.ap/T1_0831_romo.jpg

Romo! Romo! Romo!

Tobzilla
09-12-2006, 01:21 AM
Is it bad that I have Jake and Drew on my fantasy team?

DHVF
09-12-2006, 02:16 AM
Drew Bledsoe, simply because his backup probably gives his team a better chance to win at this stage.

portermvp84
09-12-2006, 08:02 AM
I would Farve by week three or after a few losses he's gonna wanna sit out. It will be the perfect oppurtuinty for hi. I wouldn't Plummer just because he has a rookie under him and that takes time. About week eight the cowboys could bench Bledsoe and start Romo to give him a fair chance.

Jughead10
09-12-2006, 08:09 AM
I thought Bledsoe was so much better than Eli?

portermvp84
09-12-2006, 08:10 AM
I thought Bledsoe was so much better than Eli?

No Eli is way better than Bledsoe.

Jughead10
09-12-2006, 08:13 AM
I thought Bledsoe was so much better than Eli?

No Eli is way better than Bledsoe.

Not if you asked certain Cowgirl fans. I watched that game with a Jets fan of many years. He basically called out when Bledsoe would throw an INT. After watching him play in the AFC for so long he actually knew the exact moment when he would choke.

IBleedNavyandOrange
09-12-2006, 09:02 AM
Don't bench Farve. The Bears are doing really well against him over the past few years, and we would really like to return to the days of having two extra bye weeks a season (Green Bye at home, Green Bye in Wisconsine).

Besides, my fantasy defense is whoever is playing the Packers each week.

portermvp84
09-12-2006, 12:10 PM
I thought Bledsoe was so much better than Eli?

No Eli is way better than Bledsoe.

Not if you asked certain Cowgirl fans. I watched that game with a Jets fan of many years. He basically called out when Bledsoe would throw an INT. After watching him play in the AFC for so long he actually knew the exact moment when he would choke.

yeah but thats also the Cowgurls fans that think they have the best team in the East yeah right. He was a big disgrace in the AFC good thing brady took over otherwise they wouldn't have won all of those SB's.

Jensen
09-12-2006, 12:13 PM
Favre, then Bledsoe, then Plummer.

portermvp84
09-12-2006, 12:49 PM
Same order i would go, but we know they aren't gonna bench Farve.

diabsoule
09-12-2006, 12:55 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/sports/vinceyoung.gif
You can't teach that.... :shock:
Go ahead and give him his MVP award. 8)

*man crush pictures of VY*

I know, his mechanics in those pictures were awesome and he is ready to hop in right now and bring the Titans to the Super Bowl!


P.S. - I was being sarcastic. He's a solid year or two away from being the QB he needs to be in order to play in the NFL.

someone447
09-12-2006, 01:45 PM
There is no reason to rush Rodgers into starting this year, QBs who have sat for 2 years have tended to do really well. Having Favre in the game at least gives them a chance to win. He may not be the best QB in the league anymore, but there are 15-20 teams that would take him in a heartbeat. He is still a great competitor, he still has a great arm and can make throws that most QBs can only dream of. Yes, he does throw way too many ints, but look who he has to work with... Lets see if he improves now that he will have another decent reciever in Koren Robinson. Don't write the packers off as the worst team in the league, let the line mesh and Favre get the timing with Jennings. They are FAR from a good team, but they aren't the worst in the league.

Nitschke-Hawk
09-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Favre for sure, the Packers are going to be a horrible team no matter what so you might as well get the young guy in, but that will never happen because the Packers wouldn't have the guts to bench him.
I'd love to see the coach that benches favre is his first year as a head coach. people from wisconsin would have his head on a stake. ... PLus favre didn't really play terrible either. He was playing agianst a good defense with inexpirance all around him. The packers have 23 rookies on their roster i think. It's gonna take time before everyone gets onthe same page.


That is BS favre play horrible and you know it. Explain thoes 2 ints please.

Those two INts didn't matter the game was lost by then dude he was trying to make somthing outta nothing. and one was even all his fault it was a blown route by jennings. I'm not saying favre is the number 1 QB in the league, but look at what he's working with,(Inexpiranced players for the most part) seriously get off his nuts and give the man a few games to work with all these new faces before you tell him to throw in the towel.

I'm really getting tired of this SeanTaylor21 cat, he says explains those 2 INT's please, prolly cause he didn't watch the game, you're falling right into this perception that people (mainly Espn) are creating making him look so terrible. I admit I got pissed when he threw those interceptions cause it was just pointless, but he didn't cost us the game. But if he helped turn this thing around and had a great season these same people would be praising him(and i'm not saying tat will happen). But I am sick of it.

YoJoeBucsFan
09-12-2006, 06:22 PM
I would put Chris Simms up there on that list.

Beans
09-12-2006, 06:22 PM
I would put Chris Simms up there on that list.

Are you a Bucs hater in disguise or something? You're at least incredibly pessimistic.

09-12-2006, 06:25 PM
I would put Chris Simms up there on that list.

Are you a Bucs hater in disguise or something? You're at least incredibly pessimistic.

if you look at his other posts its definitely a falcons fan

YoJoeBucsFan
09-12-2006, 06:29 PM
I would put Chris Simms up there on that list.

Are you a Bucs hater in disguise or something? You're at least incredibly pessimistic.

if you look at his other posts its definitely a falcons fan

That was LOW, I am not pessimistic, I am honest. We played like crap, got our butts handed to us after we had all preseason to get things fixed. This offseason was not good, we drafted a couple of stiffs for offensive linemen. I see things being no better next week either unless they magically learn how to block.

09-12-2006, 06:30 PM
I would put Chris Simms up there on that list.

Are you a Bucs hater in disguise or something? You're at least incredibly pessimistic.

if you look at his other posts its definitely a falcons fan

That was LOW, I am not pessimistic, I am honest. We played like crap, got our butts handed to us after we had all preseason to get things fixed. This offseason was not good, we drafted a couple of stiffs for offensive linemen. I see things being no better next week either unless they magically learn how to block.

dont see how you can call joseph a stiff. hes gonna be a STUD,

YoJoeBucsFan
09-12-2006, 06:36 PM
I would put Chris Simms up there on that list.

Are you a Bucs hater in disguise or something? You're at least incredibly pessimistic.

if you look at his other posts its definitely a falcons fan

That was LOW, I am not pessimistic, I am honest. We played like crap, got our butts handed to us after we had all preseason to get things fixed. This offseason was not good, we drafted a couple of stiffs for offensive linemen. I see things being no better next week either unless they magically learn how to block.

dont see how you can call joseph a stiff. hes gonna be a STUD,

I hope you're right, I saw nothing in preseason and I never did see a thing while he was at OU to warrant a 1st round pick for him. But I guess King Jon must have fallen for him.

yodabear
09-12-2006, 08:54 PM
I think it is time for the G-Men to go to Jerod Lorenzon.

The Unseen
09-12-2006, 08:55 PM
I think it is time for the G-Men to go to Jerod Lorenzon.

Then bench Tiki for Brandon Jacobs. The I-Swolemation, baby.

Dam8610
09-12-2006, 08:58 PM
Tough call between Favre and Plummer. That's based on the ability of the backup though. If it were based on starter ability, Bledsoe would be the first one benched.

SuperMcGee
09-12-2006, 09:29 PM
Get Andrew Walter in there 8)

cunningham06
09-12-2006, 10:33 PM
People need to stop hating on Favre, if Aaron Rodgers goes in they won't win any more games than with Favre. Favre plays to win which most people just can't handle because it means bad stats! Big deal, he protected the ball for the entire game against Chicago but in the end when he realized that their only chance was taking shots down field he tried and got picked off twice.

The first qb I would bench is not on this list and is named Kerry Collins. I would put Volek in. Even though everyone thinks he's terrible now after a bad preseason showing, he was good when he was a starter and deserves a chance this season. He at least can't be worse than Kerry Collins.

elway777
09-12-2006, 10:58 PM
This is the worst thread i've seen in awhile,mainly because of the options on the poll.

detknowitall
09-13-2006, 10:24 AM
Farve should be, but it'll never happen. You cant bench Farve in Green Bay. I think the Admin wanted him to retire and were somewhat upset when he didnt. But if you bench Farve and Rogers comes in and struggles then you would look like more of a bonehead than when you benched him.

detknowitall
09-13-2006, 10:26 AM
People need to stop hating on Favre, if Aaron Rodgers goes in they won't win any more games than with Favre. Favre plays to win which most people just can't handle because it means bad stats! Big deal, he protected the ball for the entire game against Chicago but in the end when he realized that their only chance was taking shots down field he tried and got picked off twice.

The first qb I would bench is not on this list and is named Kerry Collins. I would put Volek in. Even though everyone thinks he's terrible now after a bad preseason showing, he was good when he was a starter and deserves a chance this season. He at least can't be worse than Kerry Collins.

True. But they arent going to win that many WITH farve either. SO you might as well find out what you have in Aaron Rogers.

my future me
09-13-2006, 11:12 AM
People need to stop hating on Favre, if Aaron Rodgers goes in they won't win any more games than with Favre. Favre plays to win which most people just can't handle because it means bad stats! Big deal, he protected the ball for the entire game against Chicago but in the end when he realized that their only chance was taking shots down field he tried and got picked off twice.

The first qb I would bench is not on this list and is named Kerry Collins. I would put Volek in. Even though everyone thinks he's terrible now after a bad preseason showing, he was good when he was a starter and deserves a chance this season. He at least can't be worse than Kerry Collins.

True. But they arent going to win that many WITH farve either. SO you might as well find out what you have in Aaron Rogers.

Farve. He can't play. He was feeling pressure and rushing throws when there was nobody near him. Green Bay needs to find out what Aaron Rogers has and get him some experience playing.

PACKmanN
09-13-2006, 12:25 PM
I would put Chris Simms up there on that list.

Are you a Bucs hater in disguise or something? You're at least incredibly pessimistic.

if you look at his other posts its definitely a falcons fan

That was LOW, I am not pessimistic, I am honest. We played like crap, got our butts handed to us after we had all preseason to get things fixed. This offseason was not good, we drafted a couple of stiffs for offensive linemen. I see things being no better next week either unless they magically learn how to block.
Well how could they block when both there starting OGs were out in that game?

intergalacticspacemonkey
09-13-2006, 02:56 PM
This is the worst thread i've seen in awhile,mainly because of the options on the poll.


This poll was made before the debacle of a game by Aaron Brooks.

portermvp84
09-13-2006, 03:04 PM
This is the worst thread i've seen in awhile,mainly because of the options on the poll.


This poll was made before the debacle of a game by Aaron Brooks.

and clearly Aarron Brooks is horrible.

jkpigskin
09-13-2006, 08:53 PM
get jay cutler out there!!!

though getting him in this early will make or break his career.... a la kyle boller :cry:

Boston
09-13-2006, 08:58 PM
Favre for sure, the Packers are going to be a horrible team no matter what so you might as well get the young guy in, but that will never happen because the Packers wouldn't have the guts to bench him.
I'd love to see the coach that benches favre is his first year as a head coach. people from wisconsin would have his head on a stake. ... PLus favre didn't really play terrible either. He was playing agianst a good defense with inexpirance all around him. The packers have 23 rookies on their roster i think. It's gonna take time before everyone gets onthe same page.


That is BS favre play horrible and you know it. Explain thoes 2 ints please.

Your lack of knowledge ceases to amaze me. You didn't even watch the game did you.

elway777
09-13-2006, 09:55 PM
get jay cutler out there!!!

though getting him in this early will make or break his career.... a la kyle boller :cry:


Plummer did worse last year on the game opener vs. the dolphins and then had a great year,..why put a rookie in and call it quits? :?

cunningham06
09-13-2006, 10:06 PM
Favre for sure, the Packers are going to be a horrible team no matter what so you might as well get the young guy in, but that will never happen because the Packers wouldn't have the guts to bench him.
I'd love to see the coach that benches favre is his first year as a head coach. people from wisconsin would have his head on a stake. ... PLus favre didn't really play terrible either. He was playing agianst a good defense with inexpirance all around him. The packers have 23 rookies on their roster i think. It's gonna take time before everyone gets onthe same page.


That is BS favre play horrible and you know it. Explain thoes 2 ints please.

Your lack of knowledge ceases to amaze me. You didn't even watch the game did you.

Ok here's what happened, Favre was having a decent game, he wasn't making many mistakes which is all you can really ask of the Packers against the Bears. Near the end of the game (once it was 26-0 I believe) Favre tried to get the team back in the game or at least score some points, so he went for it and he got picked off twice. I'm sorry, but I respect Favre for that. I like a qb who cares more about winning than his stats. Damage control is not the job of a qb. When you're losing you should try to win! Not limit your risks so you don't potentially lose by more. Don't throw out Favre's accomplishments just because of what happened near the end of the game.

portermvp84
09-14-2006, 12:36 PM
get jay cutler out there!!!

though getting him in this early will make or break his career.... a la kyle boller :cry:


Plummer did worse last year on the game opener vs. the dolphins and then had a great year,..why put a rookie in and call it quits? :?

I know you don't wanna ruin the rookie already.