MMA Discussion Thread - SPOILERS!

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Hey look, its about time for Dan's cardio to fail him!

[josh07039]

Wow hendo is just looking bad now. He looks slow against Shields' shots. I wonder if maybe the back thing has limited him ab it.

[Ravens1991]

I missed the melendez fight because I was at the lamest college party ever but it sounds like I didnt miss much.


and Hendo gotta get his ass in order.

[MaxV]

I missed the melendez fight because I was at the lamest college party ever but it sounds like I didnt miss much.


and Hendo gotta get his ass in order.

You are looking for the best fight of the night.

[RufusMcDaniel]

The chick behind Hershel Walker looked like a stripper that I got a lap dance from.

[MaxV]

Ok, this new.

I've never seen this kind of control.

What do you call that?

[MetSox17]

Ok, this new.

I've never seen this kind of control.

What do you call that?

Felony rape, i believe.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

So Scott Coker is probably crying right now.

[Ravens1991]

You are looking for the best fight of the night.

I enjoyed King Mos fight, but since i am a serious wrestler I can appreciate it and not mind a lot of wrestling. But it can get boring if the bottom man isnt going for submissions.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Damnit Hendo your Takedown D. This is even worse than Mayhem/Shields. Hendo had to finish it in the first.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Damnit Hendo your Takedown D.

How does someone with his Wrestling credentials have this happen so many times?

[Ravens1991]

well he was a greco wrestler and that doesnt involve any shots, he wasnt really a good folkstyle wrestler and that involves takedowns. Also 39 years of age might play a role.

[LTgiants]

How does someone with his Wrestling credentials have this happen so many times?

He is too old, injured, and he wasn't well prepared cause he underestimated Shields.

[MaxV]

Incredible performance.

I didn't expect it.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Scott Coker is a very sad panda.

[Whistler6]

Transitioning from a 20 inning MLB game to MMA...Woah action. Only caught the last 3 rounds, but Shields completely handled Henderson tonight after that knockdown.

[LTgiants]

Mayhem is getting whooped

[MaxV]

Wow.

LOL. This the best part of the night.

[Ravens1991]

WTF is going on

[SeanTaylorRIP]

WTF!!!!!!!!

[MetSox17]

Ahh i missed it! What happened?

[FuzzyGopher]

LOL, absolute worst case scenario of Strikeforce. 3 horrible long borings fights topped off with a brawl on live TV.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

WTF happened. Did Mayhem do something or did Nick Diaz hit him or something.

[LTgiants]

WTF is going on

Mayhem tried to interrupt Shields asking for a rematch and Shields crew whooped his ass.

[MaxV]

I think this was done on purpose to drum up publicity.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Mayhem Miller knows how to end an organisations life in style. None of that "PED Positive" ****.

[Ravens1991]

I doubt they would fix something like that on CBS, a PPV maybe but not on public TV

[LTgiants]

I think this was done on purpose to drum up publicity.

I don't think so if they did the Camera wouldn't have got messed up they would have made sure everyone saw everything if it was staged.

[E-Man]

Wow. I stop watching the fight to shave my head, and then the next thing that happens is Mayhem getting a beat down in the ring. This has got the be the worst possible thing to happen for Strikeforce. Poor Coker, he's got to be really wishing he had some hair to rip out right now.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

ok this definitely looks staged now. Sorry not interested in Mayhem/Shields rematch.

[Ravens1991]

my station cut to the local news, what about you guys?

[FuzzyGopher]

Not me, I was forced to watch a horribly awkward interview with Shields and Shamrock.

[E-Man]

The replay made that look really fake. Either way it goes, it's a pretty ****** way to end the night.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Mayhem is a bully! Sorry bud, you beat some scrub on the undercard, you are not getting a title shot. We can't watch another bore fest unable to stop a takedown.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Mayhem is a bully! Sorry bud, you beat some scrub on the undercard, you are not getting a title shot. We can't watch another bore fest unable to stop a takedown.

I thought it was Melendez and the Diaz Bros for punching him for no reason.

[FuzzyGopher]

Nick Diaz landed 81 strikes in 1 round before yet cant land a single punch on mayhem in a brawl. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[LTgiants]

I thought it was Melendez and the Diaz Bros for punching him for no reason.

Well Diaz said something to him then Mayhem stepped to him laughing like Oh you want to bring it then Diaz and the rest of team Shields just whooped him.

[jayceheathman]

I dont know why they tried fighting with Big Jon McCarthy in the ring. He will own everyone in there.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I dont know why they tried fighting with Big Jon McCarthy in the ring. He will own everyone in there.

If Gus Johnson didn't get to them first. LOL love Gus but his MMA knowledge could improve a bit.

[FuzzyGopher]

I know a lot of people hate Dana White, but I kind of like the guy. Check out his most recent twitter post.

http://twitter.com/DanaWhite

[Bengals78]

the smiley face?

[FuzzyGopher]

Yeah. Here is a video of the fight in case anyone missed it.

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[Ward]

Had to DVR the fights tonight. Thought about extending past the scheduled broadcast, but I thought, "Nah, there's no way they can't broadcast 3 fights in a 2 hour block!" Recording ends as Hendo is walking up to the cage. FML. Just read the reports on what happened, after having to watch the first 2 boring ass fights, I don't even get the insane payoff everyone else got.

[Creek]

"Gentlemen, we're on national television."

Get it on the Gus Johnson soundboard ASAP!

[Cicero]

That was one incredibly boring card. Also **** CBS for making us on the west coast watch it 3 hours later.

[MetSox17]

One of the dudes in white was just wailing on him with kicks, lol.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

One of the dudes in white was just wailing on him with kicks, lol.

That was probably either Nick or Nate.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6rUAc4XNb6o/S8qYgC4N4_I/AAAAAAAAAJM/QTHNTzPZs1k/s1600/photo-712490.jpg

[JRTPlaya21]

"Gentlemen, we're on national television."

Get it on the Gus Johnson soundboard ASAP!

Yessirrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

[UKfan]

The one thing I am wondering is if it was a set up, why did Nate get involved? He's a UFC fighter and surely wouldn't be good if he is helping promote Strikeforce?

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Ratings are in, and the best of the show got outdrew by 1 ml to the NCIS repeat that aired before the show.

Welp, so much for SF on CBS.

[E-Man]

I think they'll get one more shot with Fedor similar to how EliteXC got that last show. The way things happened last night, Fedor just might lose to Werdum by some kinda crazy flying gogoplata or something. Hell M-1 may not even let Fedor fight, and SF just might get screwed altogether.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Just got done the 2nd round of the Hendo vs Shields fight. Man can this fight get any better???

Well now I am finished watching the whole thing. Hendo needed to do more to get the fight back up but that's easier said than done. I liked to see the brawl at the end.

[josh07039]

Are we going to soon be reading articles like the ones about Barnett killing affliction with Mayhem and Strikeforce? I don't know if its that bad, but I can't imagine CBS is very happy. I assume if CBS does another card it will be predicated on the presence of Fedor or Carano (even if she has been gone forever).

"How Mayhem killed Strikeforce"

[E-Man]

Strikeforce still has Showtime, so if they won't be on CBS anymore they still could have that. Losing CBS would be a huge blow to them though, and it's easy to see how they could fall apart as an org with a big blow like that.

[josh07039]

Strikeforce still has Showtime, so if they won't be on CBS anymore they still could have that. Losing CBS would be a huge blow to them though, and it's easy to see how they could fall apart as an org with a big blow like that.I agree that having the relationship with Showtime to fall back on is a good safety net, but unless something distinctly changes in Strikeforce's strategy or Dana does something crazy like cut AS and cut some AKA guys because hes pissed, Strikeforce's chances of being a big time number two promotion are 0.

[E-Man]

Random thought:

Fedor will be the heavyweight tournament winner for Bellator in 2011.

[Donno]

I can't believe Mousasi lost. He beat Lawal in every stat except takedowns. I understand he took him down but I thought fighting was about inflicting pain and damage. The "illegal" kick Mousasi got in trouble for was ******** too Mousasi was on his back. I was greatly disappointed with this Strikeforce event except for the ending, gotta love Miller getting his ass beat, plus I'm of fan of the Diaz's lol.

[E-Man]

Most of Mousasi's strikes were punches from the bottom that did almost no damage at all. He basically just tapped Mo on the head over and over again, and they both gassed and made it a horrible fight. I'm really disappointed in Mousasi, because I thought he was better than that. People talk about how bad Mo gassed, but Mousasi gassed early in the first as well.

[Ward]

I can't believe Mousasi lost. He beat Lawal in every stat except takedowns. I understand he took him down but I thought fighting was about inflicting pain and damage. The "illegal" kick Mousasi got in trouble for was ******** too Mousasi was on his back. I was greatly disappointed with this Strikeforce event except for the ending, gotta love Miller getting his ass beat, plus I'm of fan of the Diaz's lol.

Mousasi would have been better served using all that energy for escaping and improving his position instead of baby hammer fists. It's his own fault he lost. Lawal had a great gameplan, and Mousasi didn't do anything to stop him. Mousasi is still a good fighter, but his game was exposed. Learn some takedown defense, or learn some bottom game BJJ.

[Rob S]

Mousasi lost and deservingly so. King Mo won the fight, Donno.

[josh07039]

Mousasi would have been better served using all that energy for escaping and improving his position instead of baby hammer fists. It's his own fault he lost. Lawal had a great gameplan, and Mousasi didn't do anything to stop him. Mousasi is still a good fighter, but his game was exposed. Learn some takedown defense, or learn some bottom game BJJ.I think the important thing to note is that even if Moussasi drilled only takedown defense for 6 months, there is a very good chance that he wouldn't have been able to stop King Mo. That fight was really decided by conditioning, Mo looked more gassed early, but he had a little more in the tank. Also, Moussasi continually threw those baby punches and kicks/kinda went for wrist control occasionally/ used butterfly guard to push him off occasionally, but none of those things helped him get to his feet. His butterfly guard seemed to only create enough space for an upkick. He needed to be more active on the bottom to create space to scramble to his feet. He just seemed too tired or too content to sit there.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

What's next for King Mo aside from a possible rematch? Strikeforce is so thin with LHW's. Jeez I guess the most fan appealing fight would be Antwain Britt. Is he really ready for a title shot? probably not but neither was King Mo. I guess Hendo moving back up to 205 would also be a good idea.

[Rob S]

What's next for King Mo aside from a possible rematch? Strikeforce is so thin with LHW's. Jeez I guess the most fan appealing fight would be Antwain Britt. Is he really ready for a title shot? probably not but neither was King Mo. I guess Hendo moving back up to 205 would also be a good idea.

Hendo vs King Mo could be an interesting matchup with Henderson's wrestling ability.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Hendo vs King Mo could be an interesting matchup with Henderson's wrestling ability.

Well Hendo definitely couldn't keep Mo from taking him down, lol. I will say though as great as a wrestler that Mo is he isn't even in the same realm in terms of positioning and technique on the ground as Shields. Mo is pretty green on the ground, still if a much smaller Shields could hold down Hendo, Mo could possibly be capable. Hendo of course could blast Mo standing but Mo appears to have a good chin and is quicker than Hendo. My fear with Mo is he's a cocky ass in the ring and if he tested Hendo's standup, a big overhand right could mean lights out.

[Cicero]

If Hendo can't stop Jake the pillow puncher Shields from taking him down he won't be able to stop Mo.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

If Hendo can't stop Jake the pillow puncher Shields from taking him down he won't be able to stop Mo.

You can't deny Shields control and ability to advance to favorable positions though. Mo really once he gets them down doesn't have the foggiest yet of what to do. He's perfectly fine with just trying to GnP from the guys guard. An in shape Hendo which is much more likely at 205 could get to his feet.

[Ward]

What's next for King Mo aside from a possible rematch? Strikeforce is so thin with LHW's. Jeez I guess the most fan appealing fight would be Antwain Britt. Is he really ready for a title shot? probably not but neither was King Mo. I guess Hendo moving back up to 205 would also be a good idea.

If they're smart with his career, they let him destroy a couple of guys on the roster at 205, then let Mo do what he wants at HW. Mo has expressed interest in fighting there, so why not let him if you can't really challenge him at 205? Let him keep the belt obviously, and if somehow a contender emerges, then you put them in a cage together. Just don't force it and build up the guy's record on tomato cans. Arlovski, Rogers, Fedor, Bigfoot Silva, and Werdum would all interest me. The only guys on that list who fight at 265 are Rogers and Silva, all of the others wouldn't be too much bigger than Mo's natural weight.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Rogers vs Mo would be a fun match. Rogers is strong like an ox and Mo would have trouble taking him down. Stand up Rogers has got serious power.

[E-Man]

Maybe King Mo takes on Lashley for his next fight. At this point it's clear that Lashley doesn't want to face anybody good, but a match with a much smaller Lawal may be enticing for him.

Or Mo vs. Babalu. Yeah Babalu just got smoked recently by Mousasi, but there really isn't much else to offer outside the UFC at this point. Dana ain't copromoting, so I guess we'll see Mo take on some crappy matchups until his contract is up.

[Ravens1991]

Hendo and Mo are training partners I believe. I doubt they would fight.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Hendo and Mo are training partners I believe. I doubt they would fight.

I think Mo at times has been brought to Quest as an extra body but I'm pretty sure he and Hendo don't train with each other at all. Mo's main training partners I think are Babalu, Munoz, and Mayhem. If Strikeforce wanted it, I don't think he'd have any objections to fighting Hendo.

[E-Man]

Now that think of it, Hendo should fight Mousasi. Hendo's always been good at 205, and he'd be a good opponent for Mousasi. I don't know if both guys coming off losses would appeal to Coker, but I really like that match-up right now.

[BlindSite]

Sweet looks like Pelligrino is going to fight Sotiropolis.

, Maynard v Florian should decide who gets next imo.

[djp]

Anyone think Faber has a shot versus Jose Aldo tonight?

[Caddy]

Sweet looks like Pelligrino is going to fight Sotiropolis.

, Maynard v Florian should decide who gets next imo.

Kurt had a lot of trouble against BJJ in his last match and I think Sotiropolous is only going to expose that more if they fight.

[E-Man]

Anyone think Faber has a shot versus Jose Aldo tonight?

Faber is so damn good that it wouldn't shock me to see him pull off the upset. What he did to Assuncao was damn impressive. Beating a BJJ guy that good on the ground can't be overlooked. How is he gonna get Aldo on the ground though? If MTB couldn't, then it's hard to see Faber getting him there without having a ton of trouble. Even if he does get Aldo to the ground, the Nova Uniao camp is a well respected BJJ camp. Word is that Aldo has a really sick ground game, so he just might be better than Faber on the ground.

I look forward to a really good fight though. I see it going to decision in Aldo's favor.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Faber is so damn good that it wouldn't shock me to see him pull off the upset. What he did to Assuncao was damn impressive. Beating a BJJ guy that good on the ground can't be overlooked. How is he gonna get Aldo on the ground though? If MTB couldn't, then it's hard to see Faber getting him there without having a ton of trouble. Even if he does get Aldo to the ground, the Nova Uniao camp is a well respected BJJ camp. Word is that Aldo has a really sick ground game, so he just might be better than Faber on the ground.

I look forward to a really good fight though. I see it going to decision in Aldo's favor.

If Faber wins, he'll win it with wrestling.

[josh07039]

Faber is so damn good that it wouldn't shock me to see him pull off the upset. What he did to Assuncao was damn impressive. Beating a BJJ guy that good on the ground can't be overlooked. How is he gonna get Aldo on the ground though? If MTB couldn't, then it's hard to see Faber getting him there without having a ton of trouble. Even if he does get Aldo to the ground, the Nova Uniao camp is a well respected BJJ camp. Word is that Aldo has a really sick ground game, so he just might be better than Faber on the ground.

I look forward to a really good fight though. I see it going to decision in Aldo's favor.I rewatched Brown Aldo and I think Faber has a better shot getting it to the ground than people are giving him credit for. Brown didn't really make a big effort to take it to the ground except when he got hit hard and was shooting for desperation. Uriah is so quick and explosive that he may be able to grab a single leg and get him down. Im not picking Faber but I think his chances are better than most are saying.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

OMFG is anyone watching the Edgar Garcia prelim. Ridiculousness. That's why I love WEC. I hate that I have to pay now but still this card tonight is amazing. WEC 145 division is the most exciting division in MMA. No lay in pray there.

If you missed it you must watch back the fight tomorrow. Edgar Garcia vs Jung. If you just want to see a flat out brawl and guys swinging you have to see this. It's incredible how they are both standing.

Wow the fight got to decision. One of the most epic fights ever, haha. Those two guys are fcking crazy. I don't know how the hell you judge that. IMO though Garcia didn't deserve to win at all. He almost got subbed and really Jung controlled the pace.

We need to see a rematch. Haha look at Dana's tweets:


# Holy ****!!!!!! 16 minutes ago via web

# Holy **** again!!!! 13 minutes ago via web

# HOOOOLLLLYYY ****!!!! 11 minutes ago via web

# Let's see who wants this!!!! 9 minutes ago via web

I'm so pumped right now for Cerrone/Henderson, Faber/Aldo, Gamburyan/MTB, and Njokuani. Dana needs to pimp WEC on spike more. I was hesitant at first at the decision to make this event PPV but I think WEC could elevate their game. Best thing for Dana right now. That fight we just saw was on the level of recklessness as Bonnar/Forrest.

[E-Man]

Yeah I think Jung got robbed there. Both guys were swinging and missing, but Jung connected more. He also did more damage. He dropped Garcia in the first badly, and he tagged him good in the third.

[djp]

+rep for WEC stream, pm me :D

[FuzzyGopher]

Anyone with sopcast that wants a channel let me know.

[Cicero]

NFL draft + MMA = perfect day.

[E-Man]

Lets go Njokuani!

[fenikz]

if anyone has a real high quality stream gimmie a link, if anyone needs just a decent one i can pm you one

[josh07039]

Cheick Kongo?

Wow Dana is a cocky mofo. Jake Shields.

[FuzzyGopher]

Lol, Jake Shields hanging out with Dana.

[E-Man]

Wow. That Jake Shields thing is like something straight out of the old WWF/WCW Monday Night Wars.

[josh07039]

Also, I love how Zuffa is now selling Kimbo as a legend, he really deserves it. I mean when EliteXC did it, it was embarrassing to all the real fighters out there. After all, if beating Houston Alexander doesn't make you a legend of the sport, what does?

[FuzzyGopher]

Kimbo on the main card is a joke. He looked like **** against Alexander, he had so many chances to end that fight and he didn't.

[E-Man]

WOW! That was not expected.

[FuzzyGopher]

Damnit, I like Mike Brown.

[Cicero]

This card has been awesome so far.

[josh07039]

Damnit, I like Mike Brown.That was really surprising, but I think Brown might have relied a little too much on his chin/KO power. He really kept opening himself up looking for the big shot.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Kimbo on the main card is a joke. He looked like **** against Alexander, he had so many chances to end that fight and he didn't.

Stop being so naive. Kimbo would sell more fights against Don Frye than Jon Fitch vs Thiago Alves. Not hyping up Kimbo on the card would be idiotic. Kimbo is a cash cow.

Sucks for Mike Brown. Makes 145 even less appealing for Aldo if he beats Faber.

[FuzzyGopher]

Business wise it's smart, it's to sucker in all the youtubers into buying ppv's. Talent wise there is no way he should be on a main card.

[E-Man]

This fight should be awesome, just like the first one.

[E-Man]

Another wow! Sacramento can I get an AMEN?!!! lol

[fenikz]

anyone got even a decent stream now?

this one im watching is terrible

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Even though he's smallish I would die to see Aldo at 155. I'm not even talking UFC, Aldo vs Benson Henderson would be epic.

[The_Dude]

yeah, aldo kicked faber's ass last night. it wasn't even close.

I can't believe that henderson put down cerrone so quickly, too.

Aldo is a beast. I would like to see him bump up a level, too.

[JF4]

Kimbo on the main card is a joke. He looked like **** against Alexander, he had so many chances to end that fight and he didn't.

Kimbo on the main card is not a joke because he is a huge draw. I would say Kimbo headlining an event, at this point in his career, would be a joke. But he's fighting another popular TUF fighter with some skills and the UFC fans eat up everything Kimbo.

It would be a stupid business move not to have Kimbo on the main card because of his drawing power. His fights are usually pretty entertaining as well.

[jared]

OMFG is anyone watching the Edgar Garcia prelim. Ridiculousness. That's why I love WEC. I hate that I have to pay now but still this card tonight is amazing. WEC 145 division is the most exciting division in MMA. No lay in pray there.

If you missed it you must watch back the fight tomorrow. Edgar Garcia vs Jung. If you just want to see a flat out brawl and guys swinging you have to see this. It's incredible how they are both standing.

Wow the fight got to decision. One of the most epic fights ever, haha. Those two guys are fcking crazy. I don't know how the hell you judge that. IMO though Garcia didn't deserve to win at all. He almost got subbed and really Jung controlled the pace.

We need to see a rematch.

That fight was awesome. The first round was pretty epic. I don't know how they give that fight to Garcia, I'm actually not sure I'd even give him one round. Maybe the third??? Either way, awesome fight, too bad for Jung but I know both fighters earned a lot of fans.

[Cicero]

Kimbo on the main card is not a joke because he is a huge draw. I would say Kimbo headlining an event, at this point in his career, would be a joke. But he's fighting another popular TUF fighter with some skills and the UFC fans eat up everything Kimbo.

It would be a stupid business move not to have Kimbo on the main card because of his drawing power. His fights are usually pretty entertaining as well.

Kimbo vs. Houston Alexander was exciting?

[josh07039]

Kimbo vs. Houston Alexander was exciting?I mean Kimbo slammed him once and exchanged a little, but Houston was just too passive probably because of fear of being KOed by the street fighter/getting cut from the UFC. The point is that Kimbo is a draw/likes to stand so he has a place on any card. Look at guys like Drew Mcfeidries and Chris Lytle that just like to trade standing . They find their way onto main cards just to put on stand up wars. They are hoping Kimbo will get an able partner in Mitrione to have a war.

[FuzzyGopher]

I agree that he is a draw, but he hasn't done jack **** in the UFC. He looked like crap on TUF and wasn't that impressive against Alexander. Like I said before, this is just a ploy to get a bunch of youtubers to buy ppv's and get into UFC. I'm fine with it as a business move but as a fighter he should be on the under card.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I think you are underrating his game. No he won't ever be a top 25 in any weight class but he has some skills. Decent technical boxing, big knock out power, and he's honestly one of the strongest fighters in the UFC. If you combine his legend how can you not have him on the main card. He didn't look as horrible as you say. He was taking it to Nelson in the stand up and he showed some decent attempts to get back on his feet. If that weren't big country on top of him he could have escaped.

[JF4]

Kimbo vs. Houston Alexander was exciting?

No it wasn't, but you have to place almost all the blame on that to Alexander who ran around the ring the whole time looking like he had no intention of fighting.

Tito Ortiz domestic violence makes me chuckle.

[jayceheathman]

Tito cant win against anyone his own size so he had to go to picking a fight with his ex girlfriend.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/mixedmartialarts/6976476.html

[josh07039]

Tito cant win against anyone his own size so he had to go to picking a fight with his ex girlfriend.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/mixedmartialarts/6976476.htmlIt said he just pushed her down. After the takedown, he gassed out and couldnt GNP her for the TKO. Afterward, he told the cops that he came into it with a cracked skull so he really couldn't spar to prepare for Jenna.

[E-Man]

Forrest is out of UFC 114 against Lil' Nog.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Report-Griffin-Out-of-UFC-114-24229
Forrest Griffin has withdrawn from a co-headlining light heavyweight contest against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira at UFC 114 on May 29 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

TMZ.com was the first to report that the former UFC light heavyweight champion has bowed out with a shoulder injury and Sherdog.com has confirmed it independently. A replacement has not been announced yet.

Rogerio, the twin brother of UFC heavyweight Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, had an impressive Octagon debut at UFC 106 last November in Las Vegas, boxing out a first-round stoppage over Luis Arthur Cane.

Former 205-pound titleholders Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and Rashad Evans meet in the main event, after their stints as rival coaches on “The Ultimate Fighter 10” last year.

This sucks, because I was thinking that Forrest was gonna pull off the upset.

[djp]

Is Lil Nog going to find a dance partner? Anyone available? I wanna see him fight again.

Just watched all 3 Wandy/Rampage fights again, so awesome.

[JF4]

Is Lil Nog going to find a dance partner? Anyone available? I wanna see him fight again.

Just watched all 3 Wandy/Rampage fights again, so awesome.

My guess is Jon Jones or Thiago Silva step in.

[josh07039]

My guess is Jon Jones or Thiago Silva step in.
I wish, but sadly it is Jason Brilz.

[Ravens1991]

I dont want them to throw Jones in right away, let him develop. I wish it was someone better then Brilz though.

[josh07039]

I dont want them to throw Jones in right away, let him develop. I wish it was someone better then Brilz though.I agree with not having Bones, I wanted Silva because I can't see Brilz being competitive at all.

[BlindSite]

Bones is fighting Matsyshenko who's no joke in his own right.

[themaninblack]

Just got to see the BJ Penn-Joe Stevenson fight for the first time. That cut was insane.


I know this is probably old news. I'm just sayin.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Just got to see the BJ Penn-Joe Stevenson fight for the first time. That cut was insane.


I know this is probably old news. I'm just sayin.

Oh yeah I remember that, that was insane. Didn't Daddy get RnC'ed?

[themaninblack]

Oh yeah I remember that, that was insane. Didn't Daddy get RnC'ed?

Yea. I'm actually kinda surprised they didn't stop that fight earlier.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Bones is fighting Matsyshenko who's no joke in his own right.

He's a one-dimensional wrestler. Jones can handle him.

[josh07039]

He's a one-dimensional wrestler. Jones can handle him.Not only is he a one dimensional wrestler, he is a plodding, un-athletic wrestler who is over the hill.

[Ravens1991]

I have no problem w/ Jones getting a can, his style is exciting it will be awesome to see him wreck some fighter not at his level.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I have no problem w/ Jones getting a can, his style is exciting it will be awesome to see him wreck some fighter not at his level.

Matsyushenko isn't a can, but he has no way to beat Jones.

[BlindSite]

Jones is a good wrestler and a good clinch fighter, but he's not faced anyone of talent in the UFC yet and though Shenko is old and is "only" a wrestler he's a better fighter than the likes of Bonnar and Hammil.

[djp]

Anyone played the UFC 2010 demo yet? I played it for about an hour the other day, looks pretty fun. I just can't pull away once I get the mount to deliver the final blows.. I always transition off into side control :(

[SeanTaylorRIP]

ROFL anyone see the weigh in video on Sherdog. Tom Lawlor is a hoot. He came out dressed as Dan Severn.

[josh07039]

ROFL anyone see the weigh in video on Sherdog. Tom Lawlor is a hoot. He came out dressed as Dan Severn.I saw it, his entrances/weigh ins alone have me rooting for him all the time. That combined with a pretty exciting fighting style make him one of my favorites. I really hope that whatever his entrance is that there is a good quality video of it on the internet shortly afterward.

[E-Man]

Here are my picks for tomorrow.


Machida beats Shogun again by decision, but this time a little more cleanly. I think Shogun will open himself up more to some counters, because he may be desperate to get the finish. If this decision is close though, Shogun will take it to keep all the whiny little nerds from bitching again.

Kos beats Daley. Daley is looking for one big punch, and Kos is talking about how he's gonna take it to the ground. Koscheck by ground and pound early on. I don't think he'll stand with Daley, especially considering a title shot is on the line with this match. Daley's take down defense is pretty **** anyway.

I don't care who wins the Kimbo/Mitrione fight. I have a bad feeling it'll be as bad as Mitrione vs. Junk, and Kimbo vs. Houston.

I think Sam Stout beats Jeremy Stephens by late third TKO. Stout is more polished than Stephens is right now. Stephens has some good potential, but I think he needs to refine his game a little. Stout will probably stay outside and pick him apart.

Cote vs. Belcher may steal the night. Both guys are good strikers that tend to get overlooked sometimes. Cote has one of the best chins in MMA. Anderson hit his with a nice flying knee, but he still wasn't out somehow. Belcher gets sloppy at times, but I don't think Cote will finish him. I'm thinking close decision in favor of the returning Cote.

[fenikz]

Shogun via TKO - 2nd Round
Kos via UD
Kimbo via UD
Cote via TKO - 1st Round
Stout via TKO - 2nd Round

[Caddy]

Kimbo vs Mitrione is going to be horrible.

[JHasley10]

Kimbo vs Mitrione is going to be horrible.

i think it could either be a slugfest or a houston vs kimbo part 2.
i think they stand and bang.
meathead via KO end of 1st round
same with KOS vs semtex. could either being a wrestling match " which koscheck will take him down and do nothing" or it could be a go to sleep match
Im going with the second one. SEMTEX TKO via strikes round 2
shogun vs machida. i just love the old school CHUTE BOX style of Shogun in this fight. Shogun will stop machida either round 3 or 4 via TKO.
Cote Vs Belcher will be a 3 round war. i got Cote taking the split decision.
Stout vs Stephens will be a decent fight. i dont know which stout will show up. so i got Stephen UD 49-48

[redbills]

any site have the fight for free?

[MaxV]

Rashad picks Shogun.

I think he still remember getting destroyed by Dragon.

[djp]

As always, a large amount of rep for a link

[FuzzyGopher]

Pm me for links. I have stream and sopcast links.

[FuzzyGopher]

Lol calling out Silva.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Kimbo vs Mitrione is going to be horrible.
Yes, it was.

Ps, thanks Fuzz

[MetSox17]

Man Kimbo got his ass whooped.

[Ward]

Well I'm officially done with Kimbo, and I hope the rest of America is too. Keep him around for undercard fights against guys who LIKE to stand, but if they ever put this guy on PPV again Dana White is a scumbag. Kimbo in a different life could have been a contender, but he found the sport late.

[FuzzyGopher]

I'm just surprised Kimbo didn't get subbed. His knee issues are pretty well documented and Mitrione was hammering the **** out of them.

[josh07039]

I'm just surprised Kimbo didn't get subbed. His knee issues are pretty well documented and Mitrione was hammering the **** out of them.Even if it was against Kimbo, I was impressed with his kicks. Like a mule I say.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Mitrione was way overlooked. He showed poor cardio on the show but he has amazingly quick hands and deceptively good athleticism for his physique.

[josh07039]

Mitrione was way overlooked. He showed poor cardio on the show but he has amazingly quick hands and deceptively good athleticism for his physique.It really shows how amazing an athlete an nfl player is. Mitrione was a crappy DT and compared to many heavyweights who are average to above average athletes with fighting skills, he just looks amazingly ahtletic. Imagine how well a well trained, top level nfl athlete could do.

[MetSox17]

He showed poor cardio again tonight. There should have been a ref stoppage about two minutes before it ended, but Mitrione couldn't put any juice on his punches. Kimbo was just laying there letting himself be punched. Don't know why he gave up on that Americana, seemed like he had it pretty tight.

[Ravens1991]

It really shows how amazing an athlete an nfl player is. Mitrione was a crappy DT and compared to many heavyweights who are average to above average athletes with fighting skills, he just looks amazingly ahtletic. Imagine how well a well trained, top level nfl athlete could do.


fighting takes different skill sets then football. I dont think all NFL players would translate to superstar MMA fighters

[josh07039]

fighting takes different skill sets then football. I dont think all NFL players would translate to superstar MMA fightersDefinitely not all, but I just meant that NFL athletes are clearly on a completely different level as mere mortals. Im not saying everything is translatable, but athleticism is athleticism. Fast Twitch muscles work for everything, amazing explosive strength the same thing, lots of raw athleticism can be carried over from traditional sports to MMA.

[FuzzyGopher]

Sickest mustache in MMA.

[FuzzyGopher]

Hasn't Kos pulled this **** before?!?

[josh07039]

Hasn't Kos pulled this **** before?!?I think it kinda grazed him, but **** Kos.

[djp]

I cannot stand Koscheck.

[YAYareaRB]

I got onto a stream and it was in the prelims. FML

[fenikz]

pm me a link please

[YAYareaRB]

gosh mma can be so ******* boring sometimes

[FuzzyGopher]

WTF!!!!!!!

[FuzzyGopher]

Bannnnnnnned

[josh07039]

Oh yeah I love what Kos just said. **** yeah. I usually hate him, but that was awesome bringing hockey into it.

[YAYareaRB]

Oh yeah I love what Kos just said. **** yeah. I usually hate him, but that was awesome bringing hockey into it.

I thought so too! **** yeah Koscheck this is only time I've liked him since he was on the ultimate fighter hahaha

[josh07039]

BannnnnnnnedI think he would be done if he weren't as marketable in the UK/Has an exciting style/Talks trash, but he has to be punished severely.

[FuzzyGopher]

Daley got out grappled by Kos and Dan Mirg.

[fenikz]

2000+ rep for a link plus me wuv you rong time

[McGahee]

whoever else needs a link, post here

[Ward]

You could see them both talking to eachother at the end when Daley had Kos in half guard, and it also looked like Daley might have been trying to eye gouge Kos unsuccessfully. Daley is a punk ***** for throwing that sucker punch, I have no respect for that.

[FuzzyGopher]

Kinda looked like Daley wanted to shake his hand after the fight and Kos walked away, then Daley swung at him. I wasn't paying that close attention and there was no replay.

[YAYareaRB]

is it just me or is Machida unintentionally cocky?

[FuzzyGopher]

It's because he drinks his own pee.

[josh07039]

Daley got out grappled by Kos and Dan Mirg.Miragliota was also giving him a tongue lashing. I think he said something along the lines of "I cant believe you just did that"

[Rosebud]

rink prease

[Ward]

ruaaaaaaaaa!

[fenikz]

Shogun via TKO - 2nd Round
Kos via UD
Kimbo via UD
Cote via TKO - 1st Round
Stout via TKO - 2nd Round


oops.......

[YAYareaRB]

Good Night Machida

[fenikz]

it's gotta be the shorts

[jballa838]

somebody get that man a pillow

[MaxV]

As I said,

NEVER count out Shogun!

[FuzzyGopher]

http://i39.tinypic.com/20trl3p.png

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

Throw Anderson Silva at Shogun!

[703SKINS202]

Wow Rua. What a ***** move by Daley. Thank god he didn't win even if Koscheck has almost zero chance against GSP, Daley GSP would have been just awful.

[Ward]

Throw Anderson Silva at Shogun!

This! A thousands times, this! Forget GSP, I want Shogun vs Silva!!!!!!

[MaxV]

I want to see Shogun-Spider. That would be awesome

It's very likely that the winner of Rampage-Evans will get the first shot though.

[fenikz]

http://i39.tinypic.com/20trl3p.png

now his eyes are half Asian too

[E-Man]

Wow. The MMA forums are gonna be unbearable for a little bit now that Shogun won. Great win by Shogun, but geez some of his fans are the most annoying little pricks ever. It doesn't matter anyway though, because it's nice to see the matchups this win creates. Shogun vs. Rampage 2 or Shogun vs. Rashad is a lot more interesting now. There's also the Lil Nog rematch that would be greatly welcome. Or a Forrest rematch.

The fight I really want to see is Anderson vs. Shogun. That would be sweet! If Shogun beats Rashad/Rampage, and Anderson takes out Sonnen, then I bet this fight will happen early next year.

[Ravens1991]

I would love to see a lil nog re match later down the line, that first fight was the best fight I have ever seen.

[josh07039]

Daley Cut. Dana has spoken.

[bernbabybern820]

Daley Cut. Dana has spoken.

Idiot move by Daley.

[josh07039]

Idiot move by Daley.
Dana is not pulling any punches in he press cnference. He basically said if daley wins in every promotion in the world and becomes a pound for pound best , he will never be back with the UFC.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I am simultaneously proud of Shogun and pissed at Machida for getting away from his Karate base.

**** Koscheck, **** Daley.

Get ready for 5000000 more annoying Pride Vs. UFC debates.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I want to see Shogun-Spider. That would be awesome

It's very likely that the winner of Rampage-Evans will get the first shot though.

RIP Shogun. Muay Thai Vs. Better Muay Thai.

[josh07039]

I tihnk Kimbo was just cut, not sure if i heard correctly though.
Edit- Yeah Dana said he is cut. Im a little surprised they didn't give him one more, but I cant blame them.

[E-Man]

Damn, Kimbo and Daley cut in one night! I can't argue with either cut, but that was unexpected coming into this event. I figured they'd run Kimbo into the ground one more time against Toney or someone else, and I didn't know Daley was that big of a ***** to hit a guy after the fight.

[JF4]

Believe it or not but I called it to my buds that Daley would throw a punch after the fight. The hate between these two guys was much, much more that a regular fight and Koshceck is a complete snake. Daley looked so powerless and angry in the 3rd round that I could feel his frustration through the TV like no other fighter before this.

Though I did get pleasure out of this prediction its a shame he threw it because we wont see him again.

Koscheck is and always will be a PUNK who has great wrestling but will lose 30-25 to GSP once more.

[themaninblack]

Really happy to see Shogun take that fight. Sets up a lot of great fights plus a Machida rematch.

[fenikz]

Machida has to fight his way back up just like anyone else who gets KTFO

maybe Machida fights loser of Evans v Rampage

[Ward]

Machida has to fight his way back up just like anyone else who gets KTFO

maybe Machida fights loser of Evans v Rampage

Machida vs Jon Jones.

[Rob S]

Shogun baby, my boy!!!!!!

[fenikz]

http://i41.tinypic.com/j6n4aq.gif

I've been told if you watch the fight with the sound off that Machida's victory is apparent

[Donno]

I wonder if Machida thought he won this fight too

[Rosebud]

So I gotta say congrats to Shogun, lyoto ****** up and he capitalized big time. Nice to see Shogun back to form, dude can really do major damage.

As for my boy lyoto, I don't mind him going away from his Karate a little bit and he was able to put Shogun on his back quick both times he tried, but that doesn't mean he can completely throw his style away and just stand and bang like lyoto seemed to be trying to do there at the end. Oh well, hopefully lyoto goes back to his leap in/leap out style as we fights his way back to a title shot for third and deciding bout. I think him losing that perfect record will be good for him, ultimately since he now he can just focus on winning fight instead of protecting his belt and perfect record.

I'm really hoping lil nog can get title shot at some point because Shogun/Lil nog was one Pride all time great fights, up there with Fedor/Big Nog, Sakuraba/Newton, etc.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Paul Daley is such a little punk. I'm not a huge Kos fan even though I do view him as a top 5 WW unlike most other, but Daley is such a baby. You know what he talked crap before the fight how he was so good with TKD and ground game that he would take away Kos's wrestling and knock him out. Yeah too bad buddy you were crap and couldn't get off your back. Kos fought a smart fight since Daley's TKD is non existent. Even worse is instead of apologizing to Dana he told Dana that he didn't know the bell rang. Please GTFO.

[MaxV]

So, who is going to give me credit?????

I seem to remember, before the first Shogun-Machida fight, that I was the only one giving Rua a chance.

[JF4]

So, who is going to give me credit?????

I seem to remember, before the first Shogun-Machida fight, that I was the only one giving Rua a chance.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/consuminginterests/blog/04_17_1---Credit-Cards_web.jpg

[MaxV]

Looks like Kimbo is done as UFC fighter.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/White-Slice-Probably-Out-the-UFCs-Door-24361

[UKfan]

Daley is such a *****, ugh embarrassing

[Tampa 2 4 life]

So I gotta say congrats to Shogun, lyoto ****** up and he capitalized big time. Nice to see Shogun back to form, dude can really do major damage.

As for my boy lyoto, I don't mind him going away from his Karate a little bit and he was able to put Shogun on his back quick both times he tried, but that doesn't mean he can completely throw his style away and just stand and bang like lyoto seemed to be trying to do there at the end. Oh well, hopefully lyoto goes back to his leap in/leap out style as we fights his way back to a title shot for third and deciding bout. I think him losing that perfect record will be good for him, ultimately since he now he can just focus on winning fight instead of protecting his belt and perfect record.

I'm really hoping lil nog can get title shot at some point because Shogun/Lil nog was one Pride all time great fights, up there with Fedor/Big Nog, Sakuraba/Newton, etc.

Exactly. Lyoto's biggest problem in this fight was the he forgot he was Lyoto Machida.

[Ward]

Paul Daley is such a little punk. I'm not a huge Kos fan even though I do view him as a top 5 WW unlike most other, but Daley is such a baby. You know what he talked crap before the fight how he was so good with TKD and ground game that he would take away Kos's wrestling and knock him out. Yeah too bad buddy you were crap and couldn't get off your back. Kos fought a smart fight since Daley's TKD is non existent. Even worse is instead of apologizing to Dana he told Dana that he didn't know the bell rang. Please GTFO.

What's even more embarrassing is that unlike in other sports, the UFC is LITERALLY a venue in which to punch a guy in the mouth. It's a sanctioned event. They give you 5 minutes to beat the **** out of a guy in a cage. He had a chance to hit Kos like that for a total of 15 minutes, and couldn't pull it off with a live opponent. He had to wait until his guy wasn't ready like a *****. Disrespected the sport, and Dana is awesome for not wasting time on this.

[redbills]

Looks like Kimbo is done as UFC fighter.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/White-Slice-Probably-Out-the-UFCs-Door-24361

that sucks, I was always rooting for him.

[JHasley10]

the thing about anderson silva is HE DOESNT WANNA FIGHT IN THE UFC ANYMORE! if he wins the lhw title , he will automaticly be their property for 6 more fights.
he wants to finish his contract and either retire or box.

id love to see him fight Shogun tho. that would be a good ole CHUTEBOX WAR !
i told everyone here Shogun would stop machida. i just didnt think it would be in the 1st round. wow Koscheck did all that talking about standing up with Daley and turns into a Blanket! i hope GSP destroys Koscheck.

[E-Man]

So, who is going to give me credit?????

I seem to remember, before the first Shogun-Machida fight, that I was the only one giving Rua a chance.

That's true. I gave him a small chance in the first fight, but I'll eat my crow. He's proven many doubters, including myself, wrong.

What's even more embarrassing is that unlike in other sports, the UFC is LITERALLY a venue in which to punch a guy in the mouth. It's a sanctioned event. They give you 5 minutes to beat the **** out of a guy in a cage. He had a chance to hit Kos like that for a total of 15 minutes, and couldn't pull it off with a live opponent. He had to wait until his guy wasn't ready like a *****. Disrespected the sport, and Dana is awesome for not wasting time on this.

That's why he's a *****. He had his chance to hit Koscheck for 15 minutes, but his one dimensional ass couldn't do crap but lay on his back.

[BlindSite]

Machida will be back, he's a smart and talented fighter, probably needs to train a little more outside of his home and a little more with black house imo but he'll be back, in my eyes he was winning the fight until he got caught. It happens, you can't ever go undefeated in MMA and not be ducking legit competition, GSP, Lidell, Couture, Hughes, Penn everyone has been caught before, it's just the nature of the beast.

[Rosebud]

Machida will be back, he's a smart and talented fighter, probably needs to train a little more outside of his home and a little more with black house imo but he'll be back, in my eyes he was winning the fight until he got caught. It happens, you can't ever go undefeated in MMA and not be ducking legit competition, GSP, Lidell, Couture, Hughes, Penn everyone has been caught before, it's just the nature of the beast.

Well, almost everyone...
n8x5nqrNm34

[redbills]

I won 10 bucks from Rua : )

[fenikz]

Machida will be back, he's a smart and talented fighter, probably needs to train a little more outside of his home and a little more with black house imo but he'll be back, in my eyes he was winning the fight until he got caught. It happens, you can't ever go undefeated in MMA and not be ducking legit competition, GSP, Lidell, Couture, Hughes, Penn everyone has been caught before, it's just the nature of the beast.

please sir hop off his nuts

[Rosebud]

please sir hop off his nuts

What are you talking about? Lyoto had a couple takedowns and landed some punches, the fight was over too quickly for anyone to have honestly been winning it, but even with lyoto standing in the pocket too much he was looking pretty good. I'm not discrediting Shogun or making excuses for Lyoto, he lost and made a crucial mistake that Shogun did a great job punishing him for, but he looked pretty good and that's not that homerous to say.

[BlindSite]

please sir hop off his nuts

The striking exchanged were equal up until "the moment" and lyoto had scored and established two takedowns.

I think you need to learn how MMA bouts are scored.

[fenikz]

how UFC scores bouts, Shogun did more damage off his back than Lyoto did on top, only good shot I can think of that Machida landed was the knee while Shogun was standing up

Anyways the major flaw in Machida's game plan was being ktfo

Shogun nuthugger for life.

[fenikz]

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Shogun-Hoping-to-Square-Off-With-Couture-Next-2423

apparently Shogun vs Couture may be next

[BlindSite]

how UFC scores bouts, Shogun did more damage off his back than Lyoto did on top, only good shot I can think of that Machida landed was the knee while Shogun was standing up

Anyways the major flaw in Machida's game plan was being ktfo

Shogun nuthugger for life.

I didn't know Shogun did much damage from the bottom, having watched the fight twice perhaps you can enlighten me on this new technique that damages a fighters fists and forearms using the face.

Machida just got caught, Shogun is an amazing fighter and I agree, the best light heavyweight in the world right now, but he's not FOMG ten levels above Machida, I still see them at 1 and 1.5

Couture vs Shogun is rediculous. Rashad / Rampage winner should have the next shot with the Bader/Thiago Brilz/Lil Nog to fight off for the next shot. Giving Machida time to clear out the division with 2 fights, all going well before he really deserves another crank.

[fenikz]

Ya you are crazy if you think at anytime that Machida was winning that 1st round, after the 1st takedown, Shogun swept him instantly got him against the cage and landed multiple knees to both thighs, during the 2nd takedown Machida only landed 1 of his elbows and a knee to the body as Shogun got to his feet. Machida landed a knee to the chest(why would you knee someone in the chest) and then proceeded to be KTFO

Shogun landed multiple leg kicks and had Lyoto stumbling against the cage after he landed 2 solid punches before the 2nd takedown, then finished him moments later

[Rob S]

from Sherdog:

I just translated the newest Shogun interview from Tatame. It is better to read it here than read it in there, avoiding traditional Tatame.com mistranslations a la Ed Soares.

Tatame: What did you think about your fight against Lyoto?
Shogun: I am very happy with the result, thank God everything worked fine. I put in practice everything that was made in our trainings, it was a tough fight. He chose to take the fight to the ground and tried to stay on top but I did well and managed to put the fight on feet again and place the punch in his head.

Tatame: Did you believe the victory would come that quick?
Shogun: Fight is something unpredictable, I can't say what I was and wasn't waiting for, but I knew in our division a well placed strike is lethal. Lyoto is a tough guy and is experienced, but I didn't know what would happen in the fight.

Tatame: How much the controversey involved in the first fight motivated you in this fight?
Shogun: Yeah, it was a very controversial fight, but it only motivated me to get back stronger to this fight and take the belt.

Tatame: What did Dana say to you inside the octogon?
Shogun: He praised me very much because I had a stomach surgery seven weeks ago, I have opperated on for appendicitis, I had to do an emergency surgery but I opted to fight. Dana and the doctor said it wouldn't be safe to fight but I called the responsabilities and said I would be ok then he was very happy with my attitude and praised me.

Tatame: Did that surgery affect in your training?
Shogun: I spent two weeks doing nothing, after that I started walking to finally retake the trainings after a whole month.

Tatame: Did you think it would bother you during the fight, talking about your cardio, since you lost two training weeks? Were you afraid about it?
Shogun: No, I wasn't because I knew what was ready and there was some time to recover.

Tatame: What about the feeling in taking the belt home, when you are the second fighter do hold both Pride and UFC belts?
Shogun: I'm very happy for owning (the belts of) the most traditional MMA events in the world.

Tatame: A lot of fans are pointing you as the greatest Light-Heavyweight fighter of all times. Do you agree?
Shogun: I don't think so. Wanderlei is ahead, he and some other fighters represented Brazil for years on top.

Tatame: Who do you think will challenge you in your next belt defense? Do you think it's gonna be the winner between Evans X Rampage?
Shogun: In my opinion can be anyone. I heard some comments saying it should be Randy Couture. I think it will be Couture, Rampage or Evans. Any of them.

Tatame: How do you think a fight between Randy or Rampage X Evans winner, and you would be?
Shogun: It would be a very tought fight, they are top athletes in division and they would be hard opponentes. Now I will have to train even more harder.

Tatame: And it's possible to happen some revenges against Rampage or Minotouro...
Shogun: It's up to Dana. I'm a professional fighter and I will fight whoever they pick.

Tatame: You will stay in America to the Ninja (Murilo Rua) fight in Shine... whatare your expectations?
Shogun: He fights May 15th and I expect we both take trophies home.

Tatame: Send a message to your Brazilian fans, who are very happy with your victory in UFC.
Shogun: I have great affection for my fans because they always protect me. I send a big hug from my whole heart because I really care about them. I try to treat them in the best way I can. I special "hello" to my Brazilian fans, who have great affection for me.

*** Shogun being 7 weeks removed from surgery and missing a month of training before the fight makes his performance even more impressive.

[fenikz]

man when will he catch a break during training

[JHasley10]

man when will he catch a break during training

his bad luck all started when he broke his arm vs coleman.

im glad he is finally getting his respect. he was by far the best LHW in the world in 05/06. Liddell was facing tomato cans, while Shogun was fighting top 10 fighters and dominating them.

i cant wait to see if he gets a rematch with rampage who he made QUIT and gave him the worst beating of his career
or faces Rashad "who is probably a bad matchup for him cause of his quick hands and great wrestling

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Ewe if Randy vs Shogun happens. I need Page to return to form and beat up Rashad so we can see him and Shogun again. Still not sure what kind of Rampage we'll see.

[YAYareaRB]

Jeez I've been waiting so long for the Sugar vs Rampage fight.

[JHasley10]

Jeez I've been waiting so long for the Sugar vs Rampage fight.

i cant wait either. i wanna see if rashads speed and wrestling can handle rampages brute strength and crisp boxing.

this will come down to if rashad can take rampage down and stay away from that hook rampage loves to throw.
the LHW class is looking real good right now. alot of interesting fights out there.

[YAYareaRB]

i cant wait either. i wanna see if rashads speed and wrestling can handle rampages brute strength and crisp boxing.

this will come down to if rashad can take rampage down and stay away from that hook rampage loves to throw.
the LHW class is looking real good right now. alot of interesting fights out there.

I wanna how Rashad's chin handles the brute strength of Rampage. Rashad is an excellent wrestler. Such an interesting match up.

[Cicero]

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Shogun-Hoping-to-Square-Off-With-Couture-Next-2423

apparently Shogun vs Couture may be next

Couture? Wow what a waste of a Shogun fight.

[JHasley10]

Couture? Wow what a waste of a Shogun fight.

it says he would like to face Couture.

Couture is fighting james toney in august i believe. Id want Couture to face either Jon Jones or Ryan Bader 1st " either way it builds up the winner"
both of those guys are the future of the division. would like to see them fight each other by the end of the year.
also why is LIL NOG facing jason brillz 'sp' give him someone like thiago silva.
next card looks ok. nothing that makes me scream I NEED TO BUY THIS CARD.

[Ravens1991]

I thought Shogun was going to face th winner of Rampage and Rashad.

[E-Man]

it says he would like to face Couture.

Couture is fighting james toney in august i believe. Id want Couture to face either Jon Jones or Ryan Bader 1st " either way it builds up the winner"
both of those guys are the future of the division. would like to see them fight each other by the end of the year.
also why is LIL NOG facing jason brillz 'sp' give him someone like thiago silva.
next card looks ok. nothing that makes me scream I NEED TO BUY THIS CARD.

Lil Nog is fighting Jason Brilz because Forrest is out with a shoulder injury, and Brilz is probably one of the only guys willing to take that fight on short notice. All other guys worthy of a shot were either just coming off a fight, or already booked.
I thought Shogun was going to face th winner of Rampage and Rashad.

Yeah he more than likely will face the winner there. The only way I see him not facing that guy is if the winner gets a major injury or something crazy like that.

[BlindSite]

Ya you are crazy if you think at anytime that Machida was winning that 1st round, after the 1st takedown, Shogun swept him instantly got him against the cage and landed multiple knees to both thighs, during the 2nd takedown Machida only landed 1 of his elbows and a knee to the body as Shogun got to his feet. Machida landed a knee to the chest(why would you knee someone in the chest) and then proceeded to be KTFO

Shogun landed multiple leg kicks and had Lyoto stumbling against the cage after he landed 2 solid punches before the 2nd takedown, then finished him moments later

Kneeing someone in the chest is brutal. Taking a knee to the chest hurts enough to fold some people and Rua didn't sweep, he looked to use a hip escape timed as machida tried to pass which allowed them to break cleanly and stand. Sweeps and escapes are different.

You establish position on two takedowns and hold your own in the striking and you win the round this is as established as anything.

I really don't know why you won't take "credit to shogun" and "he's the best LHW in the world" as an answer.

[E-Man]

So it's gonna be Roy Nelson vs. JDS in the coming months. Should be a nice match. I think that JDS will KO Nelson, but don't count Big Country out. The dude's got skills.

[fenikz]

Shogun calls Jones "too damn good"

http://www.lowkick.com/UFC/Shogun-calls-Jones-Too-damn-good-7635

[Rosebud]

So it's gonna be Roy Nelson vs. JDS in the coming months. Should be a nice match. I think that JDS will KO Nelson, but don't count Big Country out. The dude's got skills.

I just hope Big country makes fun of JDS for balding even though he's only 24. Old man mullet vs young man baldy would be awesome.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Picks for Saturday's Event:

Overeem defeats Rogers: Gonna be funny to see how small Overeem probably will come in looking. Still while Rogers is an ox, has serious KO power and super quick hands for a heavyweight, I think Overeem is just too much of a threat to him. Standing Rogers may have the boxing advantage but he better watch for Overeem's kicks, and if they get in to the clinch it could be good night for Rogers. Overeem also could dominate him with top control. I could see this going either way and hopefully it stays on the feet like it should. This will not go to a decision, that's for sure.

Arlovski defeats Silva: Big foot is a solid fighter but isn't great with any aspect of his game. He is also kind of slow. I have Arlovski by KO but of course you can't ever count out his chin.

Jacre defeats Joey Villiansor: Jacre is one of my favorite fighters. If Shields does re-up with Strikeforce I'd love to see them go at it.

Gracie defeats Randleman: Gracie's have been disappointing in the octagon as of late but Gracie should catch Randleman at some point. I miss the old Randleman. He's washed up now and simply collecting his check.

Britt defeats Cavalcante: Britt is one of my favorite young prospects in MMA. I've been saying for a long time that he's on a collision course to soon face King Mo and that was before Mo won the title. Britt is a monster. Crazy quick hands and KO power, as well as being a very explosive guy with takedowns and on top. Britt can struggle big time with submission artists but that's not Cavalcante. Don't underestimate him on his feet but I don't see him taking out Britt. Strikeforce better hope for Britt to win because he's potentially one of their biggest marketing names. Remember Britt's name.

[Ward]

Picks for Saturday's Event:

Overeem defeats Rogers: Gonna be funny to see how small Overeem probably will come in looking. Still while Rogers is an ox, has serious KO power and super quick hands for a heavyweight, I think Overeem is just too much of a threat to him. Standing Rogers may have the boxing advantage but he better watch for Overeem's kicks, and if they get in to the clinch it could be good night for Rogers. Overeem also could dominate him with top control. I could see this going either way and hopefully it stays on the feet like it should. This will not go to a decision, that's for sure.

Arlovski defeats Silva: Big foot is a solid fighter but isn't great with any aspect of his game. He is also kind of slow. I have Arlovski by KO but of course you can't ever count out his chin.

Jacre defeats Joey Villiansor: Jacre is one of my favorite fighters. If Shields does re-up with Strikeforce I'd love to see them go at it.

Gracie defeats Randleman: Gracie's have been disappointing in the octagon as of late but Gracie should catch Randleman at some point. I miss the old Randleman. He's washed up now and simply collecting his check.

Britt defeats Cavalcante: Britt is one of my favorite young prospects in MMA. I've been saying for a long time that he's on a collision course to soon face King Mo and that was before Mo won the title. Britt is a monster. Crazy quick hands and KO power, as well as being a very explosive guy with takedowns and on top. Britt can struggle big time with submission artists but that's not Cavalcante. Don't underestimate him on his feet but I don't see him taking out Britt. Strikeforce better hope for Britt to win because he's potentially one of their biggest marketing names. Remember Britt's name.

Agree with all except the main event. Ubereem is overrated, Rogers knows that getting the belt is possibly the only way he'll ever get a second shot at Fedor (something he seems interested in). Rogers by KO.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I don't think Overeem will stay in Rogers range to be KO'ed. He will either keep a distance and work the leg kicks or clinch and rape him with knees. I do agree however that if it does become a boxing match Overeem will get put to sleep.

[JHasley10]

Ubeerem also has a suspect chin. i wanna see how Rogers responds to be knocked out by fedor. hope he is hesistant against Allistar.
Arlovski is going to beat Big foot with his crisp boxing. possibly a UD

Randleman i agree is done. who knows with Gracie though.

[Rosebud]

I'm looking forward to this card, I'd love to see Rodgers win and he has impressed me every time I've seen him fight. But Overeem can really hurt guys. I'm hoping for Rodgers to win and he's got a good shot.

Arlovski is going to beat on Silva and either KO him or get caught, again. Worse chin: Arlovski or Jardine?

Jacare can be a joy to watch and I hope he can put on a show.

Randleman still fights? Good god man, you've been immortalized by slamming Fedor on his neck, don't sully your own reputation by holding on way too long.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Britt can do.

So I guess it's a good thing I have no money to bet on this event.

[Ward]

Am I the only one taking Rogers in this fight?

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Am I the only one taking Rogers in this fight?

I think everyone basically has it as a toss up on the feet but most probably give Overeeem the advantage because he can hurt you in different ranges. Rogers is basically a boxer on his feet. Dangerous as hell still and if he gets his paws on your chin it's lights out.

[MaxV]

Am I the only one taking Rogers in this fight?

No, I'm with you on this one also. I think Rogers ends with with GnP.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Hah I go to every UWC event, and I didn't know until 2day that the tix I have for next Saturday's event will have the debut of the Green Ranger!

[YAYareaRB]

Hah I go to every UWC event, and I didn't know until 2day that the tix I have for next Saturday's event will have the debut of the Green Ranger!

How kick ass would it be if his entrance music started off with the flute he used???

[Bengals78]

How kick ass would it be if his entrance music started off with the flute he used???

followed by the roar of the Dragonzord
http://gaowhite.sites.uol.com.br/mmpr-dragonzord.jpg

[Prowler]

i support both of those comments. they would be awesome.

[fenikz]

strikeforce stream link please

+rep

[Cicero]

I got you.

[fenikz]

this is why boxing is boring, but neither of these guys has any real ground game

[E-Man]

If Rogers wins this, Strikeforce is screwed. Even if Werdum beats Fedor, they still have a hard time selling a champ who lost brutally to a guy who isn't even fighting for the title. This should've been Fedor vs. Overeem dammit!

[Cicero]

Ubereem completely destroyed him. DAMN.

[E-Man]

lol Rogers landed one punch?! He looked like he was in way over his head. He looks like he's stunned to main event or something.