MMA Discussion Thread - SPOILERS!

[ccB]

Gabe "The Pudgy Princess" Ruediger

[Ravens1991]

http://i11.tinypic.com/6hggil2.gif

Hahaha.....


HAHA why in the world did that guy have a collar tie like wrestling

[soybean]

tito ortiz or rashad evans, who ya got?

[JF4]

tito ortiz or rashad evans, who ya got?

Tito Ortiz definately.

[Its all about The U]

doesn't matter they are nothing compared to the elite of the divison

[Rob S]

I see ur rocking a shogun sig....very nice, he is my favorite mma fighter.

[soybean]

doesn't matter they are nothing compared to the elite of the divison

so only topics of title contenders matter?

[ccB]

Johnnie Morton just got KTFO

[Ravens1991]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rIypLV-gUEs

[VoteLynnSwan]

i've seen that slam before and it is probably the most impressive thing i've ever seen in an MMA fight.

[ccB]

Brock Lesnar looked pretty damn impressive tonight even if it was against a can. His shear power is amazing and could be a huge problem to heavyweights, if he further develops his game he can be a legitimate MMA fighter.

[soybean]

i've seen that slam before and it is probably the most impressive thing i've ever seen in an MMA fight.

watch kevin randleman's slam on fedor. THAT was probably the best ive ever seen; granted he lost and it didn't look like fedor was phased.

Brock Lesnar looked pretty damn impressive tonight even if it was against a can. His shear power is amazing and could be a huge problem to heavyweights, if he further develops his game he can be a legitimate MMA fighter.

his punches looked so quick, add in the fact that he's super strong, that's one scary dude. ive never seen someone tap out to punches before.

[soybean]

pretty amazing that the two best fighters in the whole competition last night had the most boring fight.

[fenikz]

This is one of my favorite fights

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Ma7MbrUfXk

I have no idea how Namekawa even last past like 1:20 he is just being dominated

[soybean]

This is one of my favorite fights

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Ma7MbrUfXk

I have no idea how Namekawa even last past like 1:20 he is just being dominated

shogun is arguably the best LHW fighter in MMA but I don't know if he'll have a field day like everyone expects because in the octagon he can't stomp, knee to the ground or soccer kick, so it might be interesting to see how he does.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

This is one of my favorite fights

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Ma7MbrUfXk

I have no idea how Namekawa even last past like 1:20 he is just being dominated
I'm going to miss Shogun's kicks to the head in UFC...

[fenikz]

have they announced any fights for him yet?

[RyanLeaf#1]

Brock Lesnar looked pretty damn impressive tonight even if it was against a can. His shear power is amazing and could be a huge problem to heavyweights, if he further develops his game he can be a legitimate MMA fighter.

Did he knock the dude out?

[bernbabybern820]

watch kevin randleman's slam on fedor. THAT was probably the best ive ever seen; granted he lost and it didn't look like fedor was phased.



his punches looked so quick, add in the fact that he's super strong, that's one scary dude. ive never seen someone tap out to punches before.

Did he knock the dude out?

sbfwaebwebwebew

[MaxV]

Zuluzinho tapped out when Fedor was punching the s*** out of him.

Here's the video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e08L59-fr7w

[gbpackers0065]

I just started watching the UFC regulary and i gotta say im hooked, this stuff is great pure fighting a lot better than boxing, im definetly ordering the Rich Franklin fight

[ccB]

The next ufc card is very unimpressive, the one after that will be the one to watch with 2 title defenses on the card and the debut of Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera in the UFC.

[ccB]

have they announced any fights for him yet?

I've heard rumblings that he has signed a UFC contract and he could possibly be on a card as early as UFC 72 (highly doubtful). But I'd look for him on the card with Rampage vs Hendo and Wandy vs Chuck. Like someone else said I dont knnow if he will be as impressive without the ability to stomp and do soccer kicks but I think he is a good enough fighter that he can overcome that. Id rank him in the top 3 LHW's in the world right now. Id probably rank the LHW's like t his....


1. Dan Henderson
2. Mauricio Shogun Rua
3. Rampage Jackson
4. Rameua Theirry Sokoudjo
5. Chuck Liddell/Wanderlei Silva toss up

Sokoudjou has made a huge impression on the MMA scene with 2 back 2 back upsets against Ricardo Arona and Antonio Rogerio Noguiera. I think hes only like 22 years old and I think he will be the top guy at LHW within no time. I look forward to alot of battles between him and Shogun in he future.

[ccB]

For anyone who has the versus channel tonight will be there first showing of WEC(world extreme cagefighting) fights. The card includes:

-Urijah Faber vs. Chance Farrar
-Mark Hominick vs. Rani Yahira
-Alex Karalexis vs. Josh Smith
-Craig Zellner vs. Brian Stann


The guy to watch on this card is Urijah "the california Kid" Faber. He is a force at 140 and if Dana ever opens the weightclass up in the UFC this kid could be a nightmare for opponents, unless of course they brought over Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto, in that case Faber would get owned hard. Mark Hominick is the other recognizable name on this card and he has been rather dissapointing after his win against Yves Edwards but I expect him to rebound and either sub or KO the guy hes fighting tonight.

[Ravens1991]

If Henderson takes out Rampage, that will be Hendersons 3rd word championship belt right?

[ccB]

If Henderson takes out Rampage, that will be Hendersons 3rd word championship belt right?

Yesssssssssir

[Ravens1991]

I cant wait for that to happen, Henderson is also a 2 time olympic greco wrestler, he is such a beast.

[ccB]

I cant wait for that to happen, Henderson is also a 2 time olympic greco wrestler, he is such a beast.

Yeah he is one of my favorite fighters, I'd say hes my 2nd favorite fighter after BJ Penn.

[Its all about The U]

if Hendo beats Rampage do you think he will drop down to middleweight and try to get a 4th belt

[Ravens1991]

He wrestled at the olympics at 181 pounds, and middleweight is 185, so I think he will be able to make the cut to 185 for middleweight.

[soybean]

theres a strong possibility that Hendo is better than shogun, we'll see what happens.

[SuperKevin]

Johnnie Morton just got KTFO

That's an understatement. He was demolished and completely outmatched. maybe now he'll spend more than 2 months training for a fight.

[Ravens1991]

you have to admit that was preety funny.

[fenikz]

its more just embarrassing for him

[soybean]

it wasn't even that clean of a hit. and someone said he looked good until that hit... i don't think he did. He came out swinging like a mad man no defense at all.

that whole stretcher and neck brace was over exaggerated though, he was trying to get up while they were carrying him away but they didn't let him.

[ccB]

If Hendo beats Rampage he will defintely go after the 4th belt.

[locseti]

For anyone who has the versus channel tonight will be there first showing of WEC(world extreme cagefighting) fights. The card includes:

-Urijah Faber vs. Chance Farrar
-Mark Hominick vs. Rani Yahira
-Alex Karalexis vs. Josh Smith
-Craig Zellner vs. Brian Stann


The guy to watch on this card is Urijah "the california Kid" Faber. He is a force at 140 and if Dana ever opens the weightclass up in the UFC this kid could be a nightmare for opponents, unless of course they brought over Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto, in that case Faber would get owned hard. Mark Hominick is the other recognizable name on this card and he has been rather dissapointing after his win against Yves Edwards but I expect him to rebound and either sub or KO the guy hes fighting tonight.


Faber is a Beast, Sactown represent!

[locseti]

Urijah Faber could easily compete in the lightweight division in the UFC, couldnt he Charm? And do you know how lucrative the WEC is? What is keeping him there, the competition looked mediocre at best.

[DorianSmith]

I love Ufc Chuck Liddell,Blaze Wallace and Rampage are my favorite Fighters

[MaxV]

So, who's next for Fedor?

[ccB]

Urijah Faber could easily compete in the lightweight division in the UFC, couldnt he Charm? And do you know how lucrative the WEC is? What is keeping him there, the competition looked mediocre at best.

I believe WEC is owned by the UFC. The problem with faber is hes a natural 140 fighter. I think if/when the UFC opens up that division is when they would bring him over. It's only a matter of time befor Faber is in the UFC.

[DorianSmith]

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[locseti]

I believe WEC is owned by the UFC. The problem with faber is hes a natural 140 fighter. I think if/when the UFC opens up that division is when they would bring him over. It's only a matter of time befor Faber is in the UFC.

Ya, I was wondering why Big John and Herb Dean were the refs. It seems that Zuffa owns WEC, and is using it as a type of "farm system" for the UFC. WEC also showcases talent in the lighter weight classes - including the 133 lb bantamweight class. That is great business strategy for Zuffa, now they have network deals with Spike and VS.

[ccB]

Ya, I was wondering why Big John and Herb Dean were the refs. It seems that Zuffa owns WEC, and is using it as a type of "farm system" for the UFC. WEC also showcases talent in the lighter weight classes - including the 133 lb bantamweight class. That is great business strategy for Zuffa, now they have network deals with Spike and VS.

Yeah I like to look at it that way also. I think guys like Carlos Condit and Faber could make their UFC debuts sooner than later. The WEC gives them a place to hone in their skills.

Speaking of Vs. has anyone watched that Tapout show? Its pretty cool, the guys are strange but its cool to have another MMA reality show. That guy Damasio Page that was on there last week is vicious to say the least. He could be in WEC soon fighting at 140.

[locseti]

Yeah I like to look at it that way also. I think guys like Carlos Condit and Faber could make their UFC debuts sooner than later. The WEC gives them a place to hone in their skills.

Speaking of Vs. has anyone watched that Tapout show? Its pretty cool, the guys are strange but its cool to have another MMA reality show. That guy Damasio Page that was on there last week is vicious to say the least. He could be in WEC soon fighting at 140.

I dont think anyone else in the WEC will fight Faber, so he'll have to move to the UFC. Plus he's super marketable and a real likeable kid, he's just a bulldog in the cage- a real crowd pleaser.

I watched some of that show but the tapout guys are weird, the mask gimmick has got to go. I cant believe hes able to do business like that. That guy Page is ferocious, I almost like watching the smaller guys fight more.

[JF4]

I dont think anyone else in the WEC will fight Faber, so he'll have to move to the UFC. Plus he's super marketable and a real likeable kid, he's just a bulldog in the cage- a real crowd pleaser.

I watched some of that show but the tapout guys are weird, the mask gimmick has got to go. I cant believe hes able to do business like that. That guy Page is ferocious, I almost like watching the smaller guys fight more.

UFC hasn't really tried to market any smaller guys since they brought back the lightweight division, which is a big mistake. They need to make it so that people actually know the Lightweight's are fighting. Maybe they did it because the lack of lightweight talent in the UFC at the time but they now have a ton of talent available to them and should really start to push the division.

On another note, where the hell is Sean Sherk? Does he still have the belt? When's he fighting next? I haven't seen him in ages.

[Ravens1991]

When does UFC come on TV, I remember it used to come on Spike TV but does anybody know what day and time?

[UKfan]

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10226

Something happened in the last attempted MMA Draft so I just set up a new one if there is enough interest...

[ccB]

UFC hasn't really tried to market any smaller guys since they brought back the lightweight division, which is a big mistake. They need to make it so that people actually know the Lightweight's are fighting. Maybe they did it because the lack of lightweight talent in the UFC at the time but they now have a ton of talent available to them and should really start to push the division.

On another note, where the hell is Sean Sherk? Does he still have the belt? When's he fighting next? I haven't seen him in ages.

Sherk defends his belt against Hermes Franca at UFC 72. This will be a pretty monster card, It features these fights...


Franca vs Sherk Title fight
Anderson Silva vs Nate Marquardt MW Title fight
Rashad Evans vs Tito Ortiz
The UFC debut of Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs Heath Herring

[Ravens1991]

My local video store has a ton of pay per view UFC specials, which ones are good so I can rent them. thanks in advanced

[comahan]

When does UFC come on TV, I remember it used to come on Spike TV but does anybody know what day and time?

The Ultimate Fighter is on Spike TV on Thursdays at 9:00 CST, i believe.

[Acreboy]

When's Tommy Morrisons fight?

[MaxV]

When's Tommy Morrisons fight?

He just had one. He won.

[gbpackers0065]

He just had one. He won.

yea, he looked pretty good in it too

[ccB]

random MMA news...


Hayato Mach Sakurai will return to the UFC to fight Diego Sanchez at WW. This will be on the same card as Gonzaga vs Couture.

Cheik Kongo will be the next opponent for Mirko Cro Cop, I called this some time ago. Will be a stand up war.

[gbpackers0065]

random MMA news...


Hayato Mach Sakurai will return to the UFC to fight Diego Sanchez at WW. This will be on the same card as Gonzaga vs Couture.

Cheik Kongo will be the next opponent for Mirko Cro Cop, I called this some time ago. Will be a stand up war.

Thats gonna be sick

[UKfan]

Kongo vs Crocop, I predict MMA's first death via head kick, who dies? I have no idea!

[MaxV]

Kongo vs Crocop, I predict MMA's first death via head kick, who dies? I have no idea!

CropCop won't lose 2 in a row.

[Ravens1991]

Anybody wanna see Kimbo go up against Mercer on the 23rd? I think Kimbo will lose, I wanna see a Kimbo Gannon rematch so bad that would be a good one.

[MaxV]

Anybody wanna see Kimbo go up against Mercer on the 23rd? I think Kimbo will lose, I wanna see a Kimbo Gannon rematch so bad that would be a good one.

I think Kimbo will win that one, but he won't do well against better opponents.

This guy could've been a very good MMA fighter, but he's too old to learn now.

And yes, I too would love to see a Gannon-Kimbo rematch, but in the ring, not on the street.

[Ravens1991]

I would love to see a re-match also Gannon face was messed up that fight was crazy, wasnt Mercer a boxing national champion? From the fights I have seen of Kimbo it looks like his strength will probably be on his feet, but Mercer being 46 and Kimbo 31 that will go into Kimbo favor.

[JF4]

I just found out the upcoming UFC is gonna be playing at 3 ET! How dumb is that? This will put an end to my streak of 10 straight bought UFC's. This really should have been a free cable event.

In other news i'm pretty sure there's an Ultimate Fight Night tonight, with Sam Stout being in the main event. Probably gonna be weak but I may watch.

[Ravens1991]

that is dumb you think it would be on primetime or atleast of tape delay.

[soybean]

I just found out the upcoming UFC is gonna be playing at 3 ET! How dumb is that? This will put an end to my streak of 10 straight bought UFC's. This really should have been a free cable event.

In other news i'm pretty sure there's an Ultimate Fight Night tonight, with Sam Stout being in the main event. Probably gonna be weak but I may watch.

i dont even know if it's worth the money. the card is very weak.

also, i don't know how it works on the east coast but the fight night was yesterday... i watched it.

if you haven't watched it yet, watch it it's a very good event, not a single boring fight.

[SubNoize]

I just found out the upcoming UFC is gonna be playing at 3 ET! How dumb is that? This will put an end to my streak of 10 straight bought UFC's. This really should have been a free cable event.

In other news i'm pretty sure there's an Ultimate Fight Night tonight, with Sam Stout being in the main event. Probably gonna be weak but I may watch.

That was last night... it was a good show, not a weak fight at all.

[JF4]

That was last night... it was a good show, not a weak fight at all.

Damn...I thought it was today:(. Sucks that I missed it.

[SubNoize]

yeah I was impressed by the whole show, I'd say who won and what fights were good, but I don't want to ruin it for you...

[MaxV]

Do you guys think Fedor will sign with UFC?

Seems like there is no one left in Pride that can challenge him.

[JF4]

Do you guys think Fedor will sign with UFC?

Seems like there is no one left in Pride that can challenge him.

I think he will, slowly but surely all of the top guys will come over and take the spot of some of the crappier fighters. This is why UFC still has huge potential to grow, unlike boxing where there is a bunch of different organizations, the best of the best will be able to face eachother at any given PPV. UFC is just getting started!

[Ravens1991]

http://ufcjunkie.com/ufc-rumors/ufc-75-rumors/

There are some rumors or UFC 75 on september 8th. It will be Rampage VS. Henderson.

[MaxV]

I think he will, slowly but surely all of the top guys will come over and take the spot of some of the crappier fighters. This is why UFC still has huge potential to grow, unlike boxing where there is a bunch of different organizations, the best of the best will be able to face eachother at any given PPV. UFC is just getting started!

I hope Sergey Kharitonov joins UFC also. You guys may disagree, but I happen to think that he has the potential to become one of the most exciting fighters in UFC.

[MaxV]

http://ufcjunkie.com/ufc-rumors/ufc-75-rumors/

There are some rumors or UFC 75 on september 8th. It will be Rampage VS. Henderson.

Oh, that would be great.

Does the winner face Shogun?

[JF4]

I hope Sergey Kharitonov joins UFC also. You guys may disagree, but I happen to think that he has the potential to become one of the most exciting fighters in UFC.

I have no idea who that is, hook up a highlight video or some background info.

[Ravens1991]

Oh, that would be great.

Does the winner face Shogun?

I didnt see anything about that. But does Shogun has a belt, because if Henderson beats Rampage then Henderson could go up for his 5th belt against Shogun.

[MaxV]

I have no idea who that is, hook up a highlight video or some background info.

Here are some of the youtube HLs (2nd one against Shogun's bro):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fHAfjPHVAKY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=23lRspA71gk&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FBJnm6oHJDo&mode=related&search=

Here's his record and info:

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=4184


He has quality wins, but hasn't yet gotten a big shot.

[Rob S]

the winner of hendo rampage will fight shogun, that is the plan anyway.

[Ravens1991]

UFC is on at 8 tonight just to let everyone know.

[Ravens1991]

UFC Middleweight title match on now spike TV


David Terrell VS. Evan Tanner

[Ravens1991]

Tanner w/ a TKO in the 1st, I am surprised he got out of that guilitione choke then went all out w/ a ton of punches then the ref stopped the fight.

[Ravens1991]

Coture dominated Sylvia so Randy is now the UFC HWT champion of the world.

[gbpackers0065]

That was a great fight by Couture shut up Sylvia, Couture is king once again.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=7870

A interesting comment by Rampage, he claims that Pride offered him $10,000 if he won his 1st match, but $12,000 if he lost by KO or submission w/ him not tapping out.

[comahan]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=7908

Mixed martial arts icon Royce Gracie (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=19), best known as the slender gi-wearing Brazilian who twisted oversized competitors into knots during the early days of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, tested positive for traces of Nandrolone, a commonly used anabolic steroid, following his decision win over Kazushi Sakuraba (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=84), June 2 in Los Angeles, the California State Athletic Commission revealed Thursday.

[MaxV]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=7908

Mixed martial arts icon Royce Gracie (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=19), best known as the slender gi-wearing Brazilian who twisted oversized competitors into knots during the early days of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, tested positive for traces of Nandrolone, a commonly used anabolic steroid, following his decision win over Kazushi Sakuraba (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=84), June 2 in Los Angeles, the California State Athletic Commission revealed Thursday.

I'm sure it's very common in MMA. I can't say I blame these guys.

[UKfan]

UFC 72 has shaped up pretty well so far, not sure if you guys get it on delay or not, but the first couple of fights have been very good. Now I hope to see Rory Singer get KTFO.

[soybean]

i thought this card was gonna be weak, but it was actually pretty entertaining. and no, we didn't get it delayed this time because i guess it was a PPV.

I like the last fight and didn't think franklin looked that impressive.

[Ravens1991]

I wanna see how Kimbo goes up against Ray Mercer, That will be UFC 72 right?

[UKfan]

I wanna see how Kimbo goes up against Ray Mercer, That will be UFC 72 right?

UFC 72 was last night. Pretty good overall, Clay Guida vs Tyson Griffin was sweet!

[fenikz]

im holding a mma draft in the fantasy section, and unlike the last ones it will actually finish

so go join it

[LTgiants]

ken shamrock might be coming back

http://nodq.com/ufc/184204679.shtml

[fenikz]

it also says he doesn't want to cut weight to fight at 205, he needs to just retire

[LTgiants]

i just saw a commerical saying it is goning to happen

[Ravens1991]

I wanna see him cut to 205 and go up against Tito Ortiz again

[ccB]

I wanna see him cut to 205 and go up against Tito Ortiz again

why? So Tito can destroy him one more time? Was 3 fights not enough to prove who the better fighter is?

[Ravens1991]

Actually because I loved their argument hear http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zf1Kei1amU0

[jbeans187]

I wanna see how Kimbo goes up against Ray Mercer, That will be UFC 72 right?

When is it? Kimbo is a beast, i hope he does well

[Ravens1991]

I think June 23rd. Ray is a world champion boxer but is 47 and Kimbo is 31, I think if Kimbo tries to keep it in a standing battle like his street fights I think he will lose.

[Ravens1991]

I noticed on several rankings Chuck Liddell was ranked higher then Dan Henderson at LHWT, what do you think about that?

[MaxV]

I noticed on several rankings Chuck Liddell was ranked higher then Dan Henderson at LHWT, what do you think about that?

I disagree with it, but Liddell could beat Hendo.

[Rob S]

well, i could easily make a case for chuck being higher......i mean he only has 1 loss recently (and the wins come by way of stoppage), while hendo has 1 loss but to a worse fighter. Also, Hendo has many less fights at 205. It is kind of like sherk, in that he is ranked low because of lack of fights at the weight class

[Ravens1991]

does anybody watch the TV show tap out on Outdoor life network? It is preety good

[Man_Of_Steel]

does anybody watch the TV show tap out on Outdoor life network? It is preety good

Theres an outdoor life channel?

[Ravens1991]

I think its called that.

[MaxV]

I wish Dana White would sign Fedor already.

I realize that Fedor isn't the most marketable fighter in the US market, but I definitely believe that Dana would make MORE THEN ENOUGH money off him.

[ccB]

Theres an outdoor life channel?

It used to be, now its called the versus network.

[Ravens1991]

I have Baroni VS. Shamrock spoilers, PM me if interested in the result

[ccB]

Anyone watching the ultimate fighter finale?

[Ravens1991]

on Spike now? I am.


I got the tan dude w/ the big tattoo winning this one.

[Ravens1991]

WOW I thought Evans was gonna pull that one out, Evans got caught in a tight spot after being good at takedowns.

[MaxV]

WOW I thought Evans was gonna pull that one out, Evans got caught in a tight spot after being good at takedowns.

He had a great opportunity earlier in the round, but couldn't capitalize.

[Ravens1991]

yea I think he will be a threat if he gets more expierence, that was only his 7th MMA fight

[ccB]

Roger Huerta is a beast, I knew he would pull through after a crappy first round.

[Ravens1991]

ouch both people got hurt on the same move

[ccB]

That was one of the craziest endings ever. Up there with Smith vs Sell which ironically was mentioned during this fight.

[Ravens1991]

what the heck I go down to pick up a soda and say hello to my dad and Maynard is pissed so is there a winner?


other guy apoligizing for bad ending someone please fill me in.

[ccB]

It doesnt look like Gray was out if you look at the replay.

EDIT: NVM

[fenikz]

Fedor in the UFC is gonna be awesome, I kinda feel sorry for Minotauro though he will never will a championship

[Ravens1991]

It is preety tough to say because he fell back when he was on his knees so I am not sure about Gray being knocked out, but Emerson tapped out so if I was the judge I would give Gray the win.

[MaxV]

That was a Rampage-esque slam.

[comahan]

He DDT'd himself.

Awesome.

[Ravens1991]

Yea I love Rampages slams.

[MaxV]

Bruce Lee's daughter is hot.

[MaxV]

I like what I saw from Lauzon there.

He's not a big nor strong guy, but he's pretty active in his fights and didn't let his opponent get the upper hand.

[Moses]

Diaz just survived a close call. He's very skilled on the ground.

[Ravens1991]

yea that Guilotine was tight.

[Moses]

Man, Manny is fighting very well but I'm so impressed with Diaz. He's surviving very well in there against a guy that is a lot more powerful.

[Ravens1991]

yea Manny is using his power well Diaz needs to re-group and use his reach to his advantage.

[Ravens1991]

WOW I wanna see a re-match there.

[MaxV]

Oh man, what a tough way to lose.

I hope it's not too serious.

[Moses]

Wowwowowwo

Diaz is just a warrior. He never gave up and that's why he won that fight.

Also, that's disgusting and unfortunate with what happened with Manny. Both are great fighters and I think they'll both have a great future in the UFC.

[Ravens1991]

Does anybody have any info on the Kimbo VS. Ron Mercer fight It went down at 10:00 EST

[Ravens1991]

so who do you all think won round 1? BJ or Pulver?

[Moses]

so who do you all think won round 1? BJ or Pulver?

Penn clearly. Pulver made some good defensive moves though.

[Ravens1991]

wow Penn dominated the 2nd w/ a good near naked choke I believe.

[ccB]

I wouldnt expect any less from Baby J. Favorite fighter by far.

[Ravens1991]

Kimbo won by a guilotine choke.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.pandachute.com/videos/kimbo_slice_vs_ray_mercer


A great strategy by Kimbo, attack and go for takedowns because I think Ray would have taken him if they were on their feet for a while. I hope to see Kimbo Gannon re-match in the octagon.

[MaxV]

Kimbo has some skills. I still think he's only an average MMA fighter, but atleast he convinced me that he belongs.

[Ravens1991]

True, I dought he would be a title contender, remember Mercer was 46-47ish and Kimbo was only 31.

[ccB]

Kimbo looks way older than 31, maybe its just the haircut/facial hair combo.

[bernbabybern820]

Kimbo looks way older than 31, maybe its just the haircut/facial hair combo.

Its definitely the hairline.

[Ravens1991]

Plus the beard. Apparently he was a all-american high school football player but didnt go to college. He got on the Bucs practice squad but got into a fight w/ Warren Sapp so he got kicked off.

[gbpackers0065]

Last Night was great, btw bjpenn.com sux

[fenikz]

Plus the beard. Apparently he was a all-american high school football player but didnt go to college. He got on the Bucs practice squad but got into a fight w/ Warren Sapp so he got kicked off.


just wondering has kimbo ever fought bob sapp, because that would be one of the most untalented MMA fights of 2 beasts

[Ravens1991]

No against Mercer was his 1st MMA fight, I would love to see Sapp VS. Kimbo. Sapp got his jaw broken in a MMA fight earlier.

[soybean]

Plus the beard. Apparently he was a all-american high school football player but didnt go to college. He got on the Bucs practice squad but got into a fight w/ Warren Sapp so he got kicked off.

watch this tackle by kimbo.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=81S5ExwsM54

also, he's training with bas rutten so he'll fit in well.

[Ravens1991]

I watched UFC 46 last night on DVD and I thought it was hilarious when BJ Penn kissed Matt Hughes on the lips after he won the match.

[bernbabybern820]

Last Night was great, btw bjpenn.com sux

I was on that site a couple of hours before the fight. Now it will never work.

[Ravens1991]

So what are all of your predictions for any upcoming fights?

My Rampage VS. Henderson prediction is Henderson wins with a KO punch. Henderson knocked out Wanderlei Silva w/ a KO punch and Silva KO Rampage in 2004.

[SuperKevin]

I'm watching WEC right now and say Marine Corps 1stLt Brian Stann extend his record to 4-0

[locseti]

Brian Stann is a hog. When BJ Penn said "If you wanna know how BJ Penn feels, got to BJ Penn.com" did he have a special blog or something after the fight on that website? Because he just walked out of the ring. And his website has a bunch of videos and crap, I was just wondering if he had a special announcement after the fight w/ jens.

[SuperKevin]

I'm watching the finale of TUF5 and Gray maynard got screwed over. Makes Rob Emerson tap without with a brutal takedown but got a NC because he knocked himself out

[UKfan]

Yeah I can see where the decision came from, but I'd have given Gray the decision.

[UKfan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6254902.stm

The boxer Wayne McCullogh has become an official spokesperson for the UFC in the UK. Quite an important move I think as it shows the balance of power shifting from boxing to MMA and giving MMA a legitimate face over here people know and can identify with. A good article as well.

[gbpackers0065]

I just got a call with an opportunity to have an underground cage fight similar to UFC, I have no prior experience but I am considering it.

[fenikz]

no experience cage fighting? or no experience what so ever, like wrestling, boxing, BBJ, Kenpo?

[gbpackers0065]

no experience cage fighting? or no experience what so ever, like wrestling, boxing, BBJ, Kenpo?

gotten into a few fights in my life, the opposing fighter would have no experience either and I could train for at least a week

[Ravens1991]

So who do you all got in Tito Ortiz VS. Rashad Evans?

[MaxV]

I'm rooting for Evans, but it'll probably be Tito by decision.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.insidefighting.com/betweenRoundsDisp.aspx?uid=3730


at the end Tito says "I am kind of injury free" so if you ask me it sounds like he will come in nicked up a bit.

[SuperKevin]

gotten into a few fights in my life, the opposing fighter would have no experience either and I could train for at least a week

A week? Looks like you'll end up like Johnnie Morton

[gbpackers0065]

I accepted the offer, mine opponent is 6'6" 211 lbs. and I have a 8" reach advantage and I have all this week off so I'm gonna train my ass off.

[fenikz]

your opponent is 6'6" and you have an 8 inch reach? how tall are you?

[gbpackers0065]

your opponent is 6'6" and you have an 8 inch reach? how tall are you?

6'9" with a 7'5" wingspan

[Ravens1991]

you are big GBPackers, how long as your opponent been training/fighting?

[gbpackers0065]

you are big GBPackers, how long as your opponent been training/fighting?

1 day, same as me, in fact I'm gonna go do that now

[Ravens1991]

good idea, do you have to make a weight, if so drink a ton of water until the day of weigh ins, if you are over sit in a sauna the whole day.

[ccB]

Im riding with Rashad Evans against Tito, I think his wrestling is on par with Tito's and Id give Rashad the advantage with his striking. The only way I see Tito winning is if Rashad cant keep up with Tito's cardio.

[Ravens1991]

Tito claims he is a better wrestler due to his .750 winning percentage compared to Rashad .500, but w/ Tito never really being the full time varsity starter his only matches were at tournaments and that could affect his record. Plus when was Titos last fight, was it against Liddell?

[ccB]

Tito claims he is a better wrestler due to his .750 winning percentage compared to Rashad .500, but w/ Tito never really being the full time varsity starter his only matches were at tournaments and that could affect his record. Plus when was Titos last fight, was it against Liddell?

Yeah Tito's last fight was agfainst Liddell and he got whooped, prior to that fight he beat Shamrock twice in two of the most unimpressive wins ever. Before that he beat Forrest Griffin in a decision that was really close. I see Rashad as a better fighter than Forrest therefor I think he should prevail.

[Ravens1991]

haha those Shamrock VS. Tito arguments on youtube are great. I heard Tito had the opportunity to go up against Forrest again but chose to fight Rashad.

[Ravens1991]

I was thinking do you all think it is possible for Coture to cut back down to 205? If he did he could fight Liddell again and the winner of that match faces the loser of Rampage VS. Henderson, so Coture will possibly have LHW and HWT belts for UFC

[fenikz]

isn't Lidell going to fight Silva? because that would be a better fight than couture, and it doesn't matter any ways because once Shogun comes all shall fall

[Ravens1991]

I didnt hear anything about him VS. Silva. Silva did knock out Rampage in 2 rounds so Silva will probaby take Liddell. I wouldnt mind the winner of Silva VS. Liddell facing who ever loses the Rampage VS. Henderson fight because the winner(who I think will be Henderson) will be training for Shogun.

[soybean]

I was thinking do you all think it is possible for Coture to cut back down to 205? If he did he could fight Liddell again and the winner of that match faces the loser of Rampage VS. Henderson, so Coture will possibly have LHW and HWT belts for UFC

i don't think it's worth it. It's not that easy to just cut weight and win the title. The competition in the light heavy weight division is much more competitive than the heavyweight.

[MaxV]

What is taking so long with Fedor negotiations?????

I have already heard several reports that they were close, yet nothing's happenning.

It would suck big time if Fedor doesn't wind up in UFC.

The best fighter should be in the best organization.

[gbpackers0065]

good idea, do you have to make a weight, if so drink a ton of water until the day of weigh ins, if you are over sit in a sauna the whole day.

No, I don't have to make weight but it probably will go up because I'm gonna gain a lot of muscle. In respect to Tito Ortiz I think is still banged up and have no chance against Evans.

[ccB]

I was thinking do you all think it is possible for Coture to cut back down to 205? If he did he could fight Liddell again and the winner of that match faces the loser of Rampage VS. Henderson, so Coture will possibly have LHW and HWT belts for UFC

I think it could be possible for Couture to do that but I do not think he will. First he has to get through Gonzaga who is a freaking animal and could present problems for Randy. Secondly, if Hendo beats Page than I dont think Coture would fight him because Hendo and Coture have been training partners at team quest before Randy started his own gym out in Las Vegas.

I dont think there will be a Liddell/Coture 4 it would be kind of redundent. I think one of two things happens, If Rampage beats Hendo than I think Liddell gets the rematch. If Hendo wins, I think Chuck and Wandy go at it and the winner of that fights Hendo.

There are alot of different possibilitys at LHW, I think Liddell/Silva will defintely happen sometime. Shogun is coming to the UFC in September so they will throw him an easier fight before they give him a title shot. The winner of Tito/Rashad will be deservent of some kind of title shot (especially if its Rashad that wins) There is all sorts of things that could happen.

[gbpackers0065]

I trained for about 3 hours today, I also met with a nutritionist to set up a high-protein diet. Today was basic fight training as I go on in the week I'll learn the jist of striking, takedowns, defense, etc. I'll try to keep you guys updated the fight is at 9est on Saturday.

[Ravens1991]

I think it could be possible for Couture to do that but I do not think he will. First he has to get through Gonzaga who is a freaking animal and could present problems for Randy. Secondly, if Hendo beats Page than I dont think Coture would fight him because Hendo and Coture have been training partners at team quest before Randy started his own gym out in Las Vegas.

I dont think there will be a Liddell/Coture 4 it would be kind of redundent. I think one of two things happens, If Rampage beats Hendo than I think Liddell gets the rematch. If Hendo wins, I think Chuck and Wandy go at it and the winner of that fights Hendo.

There are alot of different possibilitys at LHW, I think Liddell/Silva will defintely happen sometime. Shogun is coming to the UFC in September so they will throw him an easier fight before they give him a title shot. The winner of Tito/Rashad will be deservent of some kind of title shot (especially if its Rashad that wins) There is all sorts of things that could happen.


Do you think that would happen before or after the Shogun Henderson fight assuming Henderson wins?

Also assuming that Henderson wins against Rampage due to his victory over Silva and Rampage lose to Silva, I think the winner of Rashad Tito could go up against Liddell and the winner of that could go up against Rampage or Henderson hell even Shogun, who ever has the UFC belt.

[ccB]

Do you think that would happen before or after the Shogun Henderson fight assuming Henderson wins?

Also assuming that Henderson wins against Rampage due to his victory over Silva and Rampage lose to Silva, I think the winner of Rashad Tito could go up against Liddell and the winner of that could go up against Rampage or Henderson hell even Shogun, who ever has the UFC belt.

Well Shogun fights in late September so hes not going to get a title shot right away. I think they have to give Chuck some kind of rematch, so if Rampage beats Hendo I think Chuck is the logical next opponent.

[Rob S]

Well Shogun fights in late September so hes not going to get a title shot right away. I think they have to give Chuck some kind of rematch, so if Rampage beats Hendo I think Chuck is the logical next opponent.

1st off, ravens, MMAth doesnt work, it has been proven. Just never make that assumption, here it is not a big deal, but if this were at sherdog u would get flamed for MMAth by like a million people. Although I do think Hendo will beat Rampage, Silva has nothing to do with it. I am thinking the plan is Chuck vs someone decent/ good (silva), Chuck or Silva gets rematch w winner of Hendo-Page, and if Shogun is undefeated in UFC, Shogun will fight for the belt at the rumored, huge, super event. Thats my best guess.

[Ravens1991]

OK I see, I am still a bit of noob w/ MMA, I was just using common oppnents like they do in wrestling

[fenikz]

what would piss me off is if the Silva beats Lidell then he beats the winner of Hendo vs Rampage, which would mean that Shogun won't get a title shot until he loses the belt, because Chute Boxe guys don't fight each other

[Ravens1991]

he could just face Silva.

[fenikz]

he won't, they have said it before and thats why Shogun never had a title shot in Pride

[Ravens1991]

why does Silva back down or are they buds?

[fenikz]

they are friends, they train together at chute boxe academy in brazil

[MaxV]

Shogun and Fedor are both next in line for title shots.

link (http://ufcmania.com/2007/07/02/dana-white-shogun-and-fedor-to-get-title-shots/)

[MaxV]

You guys will HATE this news:

On the possibility of the Quinton Jackson-Dan Henderson fight being a unification fight:

"No. What we’re doing with that thing is we’re respecting both (the UFC and PRIDE) titles. The UFC title is the UFC champion and we’re respecting Dan as the PRIDE champion. Quinton will walk out with his belt if Dan wins and vice versa."

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/mixedmartialarts/article_1751066.php

Rampage-Hendo is a non-title bout. Sorry, guys.

[fenikz]

then why the **** did they even buy pride?

[MaxV]

then why the **** did they even buy pride?

I don't understand this either. Shogun-Rampage is interesting, but not as interesting as Shogun-Hendo.

[fenikz]

well shogun destroyed rampage and im sure he would do it agian, but hendo would be a good fight

[ccB]

well shogun destroyed rampage and im sure he would do it agian, but hendo would be a good fight

That fight was too lopsided, who wants to see a repeat of that? I sure dont. Hendo vs Rampage not being a title fight is a ripoff, why elsle would they set this fight up right away, you think theyd give Hendo a different fight to start off with to build up some steam. Also you think since this is not a title fight theyd have Hendo fight at MW instead which is his natural weight. I just dont understand.

[fenikz]

I'm watching some Shogun fights from the ref cam right now, he is even more devastating from that view

[Ravens1991]

where do you get those Fenikz, that is preety lame, UFC owns Pride but it isnt a title fight.

[Ravens1991]

http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/07/03/report-ufc-75-henderson-vs-jackson-fight-for-ufc-light-heavyweight-championship/

It says it will be a UFC title fight, but Henderson is keeping the Pride belt no matter what.

[fenikz]

where do you get those Fenikz, that is preety lame, UFC owns Pride but it isnt a title fight.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15pqx_shogun-rua-vs-ricardo-arona-ref-cam
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15poq_shogun-rua-vs-rampage-jackson-ref-c

[Ravens1991]

thanks a lot

[ccB]

where do you get those Fenikz, that is preety lame, UFC owns Pride but it isnt a title fight.

Up until this year Pride owned UFC hard.

[Ravens1991]

I meant like legal owners and all that stuff, I remember hearing that Pride had the better fighters then UFC.

[ccB]

I meant like legal owners and all that stuff, I remember hearing that Pride had the better fighters then UFC.

Oh I read it wrong.

[Rob S]

Up until this year Pride owned UFC hard.

yeah, for excitement anyways, altho the quality of fighters is being proven to be close. PRIDE events were a billion times better tho, we will never see cards so stacked anymore.

[Ravens1991]

so is anybody buying UFC 73 that is coming out on saturday?

[UKfan]

We get it free, but a day late so despite my best efforts, I end up reading spoilers..

[Ravens1991]

that sucks I wish I could get it for free but I think it costs $30 or something and my parents wont get the channels

[fenikz]

im ordering it, actually i got a nice little Saturday planned, going tubing & getting drunk down the salt river then coming back and watching 73

[SuperKevin]

Ever since I spent a fortune ordering and planning a party for the Tito Ortiz/Ken Shamrock fight that ended in 1 goddamn minute I will no longer order a UFC PPV. I'll be content watching highlight clips

[Ravens1991]

haha was that the second fight were before hand in a match there was a puddle of blood on the mat and they didnt stop it then Shamrock got elbowed twice then they stoped it and Shamrock said it was his strategy because Tito cant hurt him. There is another clip on you tube were Shamrock got punched and was leaning forward and the ref stopped the fight and then Ken was complaining about that call also.

[SuperKevin]

haha was that the second fight were before hand in a match there was a puddle of blood on the mat and they didnt stop it then Shamrock got elbowed twice then they stoped it and Shamrock said it was his strategy because Tito cant hurt him. There is another clip on you tube were Shamrock got punched and was leaning forward and the ref stopped the fight and then Ken was complaining about that call also.

Exactly. Tito slams Shamrock. Punches him twice, fight over

[Ravens1991]

yea Shamrock might make a comeback from what I hear, I wonder if he will talk some more trash hoping Tito wants to fight him again. Now Shamrock is a subject matter expert for Marine Corps Martial Arts program.



I was wondering could you see UFC going to ESPN instead of Pay Per View soon trying to get more popularity for the sport?

[SuperKevin]

yea Shamrock might make a comeback from what I hear, I wonder if he will talk some more trash hoping Tito wants to fight him again. Now Shamrock is a subject matter expert for Marine Corps Martial Arts program.



I was wondering could you see UFC going to ESPN instead of Pay Per View soon trying to get more popularity for the sport?

No because I think Spike TV owns all the rights to UFC TV

[Ravens1991]

O I C, well hopefully they put on UFC matches like UFC 73 and all that on Spike TV so I dont have to read spoilers on forums.






Exactly. Tito slams Shamrock. Punches him twice, fight over

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z_axyjNAb9Y

[Rob S]

I will order UFC, but have to tivo it and watch sunday because i will be at a huge party sat. night. I should just get torrents, but they mess up my cpu.

[Ravens1991]

So has anybody tried that Pride fighting game on PS2, I played UFC Sudden Impact and it has a good idea but the gameplay sucks so bad.

[JF4]

UFC should definately try and come out with a new video game that's actually good soon with the addition of pride. They should get the people who make some of the better wrestling games to do it. If it was playable it would probably be a huge seller.

[Rob S]

UFC should definately try and come out with a new video game that's actually good soon with the addition of pride. They should get the people who make some of the better wrestling games to do it. If it was playable it would probably be a huge seller.

For sure, it will be tough, pretty much impossible, to give a realistic mma feel tho. They will need fighters to help design it, u cant fully understand MMA unless you have rolled a little.

[ccB]

I will not be ordering the fight but I will be watching it for free, god I love the internet.

UFC should definately try and come out with a new video game that's actually good soon with the addition of pride. They should get the people who make some of the better wrestling games to do it. If it was playable it would probably be a huge seller.

THQ (made a lot of the wrestling games) has a UFC game in development. I think IGN had an article on it.

EDIT(Heres an article):http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/01/19/thq-to-develop-ufc-video-games/

[ccB]

I think in order to make a good UFC game they should use a striking engine similar to Fight Night utilizing the sticks. The submissions are going to be whats hard to get down. In the other ufc/pride games once you were on the ground on you back you were most likely gonna get subbed out.

[Ravens1991]

I will not be ordering the fight but I will be watching it for free, god I love the internet.



THQ (made a lot of the wrestling games) has a UFC game in development. I think IGN had an article on it.

EDIT(Heres an article):http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/01/19/thq-to-develop-ufc-video-games/

What is the website? Do you have to pay to watch videos or is it really not legal?


Also about the video game I am glad to hear that it will have annuall releases.

[ccB]

What is the website? Do you have to pay to watch videos or is it really not legal?


Also about the video game I am glad to hear that it will have annuall releases.

I'd imagine getting the event streamed live to a computer is a illegal.

[Ravens1991]

yea it doesnt sound like something that isnt the most legal thing.




From what I have heard, Tank Abbott VS. Kimbo Slice will go down on Cage Furry Fighting Championships 6

[gbpackers0065]

I've trained 5 hours for the last three day my reach advantage makes striking really easy and I'm gonna try to stand up and strike during the fight. As far as on the ground my armbars are my best strength but I'm always looking for that Rear Naked Choke. The fight is tomorrow and I'm pretty pumped. I have one more training session today for on my back defense.

[Ravens1991]

you all should video tape it and youtube it.

[gbpackers0065]

nate diaz is gonna fight in the EliteXC

[gbpackers0065]

Todays the big day and I'm pretty pumped I'm eating all high-energy food and I'm trying not to let myself get tired before the fight at 9pm est

[Ravens1991]

good luck tell us how it goes.

[UKfan]

nate diaz is gonna fight in the EliteXC

Do you mean Nick? I'd assume Nate would be in the UFC being as he won TUF5

[ccB]

Do you mean Nick? I'd assume Nate would be in the UFC being as he won TUF5

Yes he does mean Nick, word is Nick has called out Frank Shamrock.

[soybean]

oh man, that's a bad idea. I LOVE nick diaz and can watch him beat the crap out of robbie lawler all day but cmon, frank shamrock almost killed baroni.

[gbpackers0065]

Yea. i did mean Nick, Nate has 100,000 reasons not to leave UFC.

[ccB]

oh man, that's a bad idea. I LOVE nick diaz and can watch him beat the crap out of robbie lawler all day but cmon, frank shamrock almost killed baroni.

Nick made Takanori Gomi look like a fool (top 3 p4p fighter) imo I mean Phil Baroni isnt no one special, I think th weight difference is gonna be the hardest thing for Nick to overcome. I think if he can beat Lawler he can beat Shamrock, Lawler is a better fighter IMO.

[gbpackers0065]

Who does everyone think is gonna win the Silva/Marquardt I put 100 down on Silva because I think his BJJ is that good.

[fenikz]

here are my bets for tonight

Silva over Marquardt (1st round KO)
Sherk over Franca (2nd round Submission)
Evans over Ortiz (Unanimous Decision)
Minotauro over Herring (2nd round KO)
Robinson over Florian (2nd round Submisson)

[ccB]

I have Silva over Marquardt (although id like to see Marquardt win) Sherk over Franca (rather see Franca win) Nog over Herring, Evans over Tito, Florian over Robinson.

[UKfan]

Silva over Marquardt (2nd round Triangle)
Franca over Sherk (Overhand right, round 1)
Evans over Ortiz (Unanimous Decision)
Minotauro over Herring (Armbar, round 1)
Florian over Robinson (Unanimous Decision)

Felt like being a bit specific, I'm feeling pretty confident about all the results except Evans and Ortiz, and I am picking at least one upset in Franca / Sherk, that's the beauty of MMA, you never know.

[ccB]

Silva over Marquardt (2nd round Triangle)
Franca over Sherk (Overhand right, round 1)
Evans over Ortiz (Unanimous Decision)
Minotauro over Herring (Armbar, round 1)
Florian over Robinson (Unanimous Decision)

Felt like being a bit specific, I'm feeling pretty confident about all the results except Evans and Ortiz, and I am picking at least one upset in Franca / Sherk, that's the beauty of MMA, you never know.

I like all your stuff basically. I really think Franca can beat Sherk with that famous (AND UGLY!) overhand right, I also think he could get him with some BJJ on the ground but for some reason my gut is telling my Sherks gonna either lay and pray to a decision or GNP poor Hermes. The rest I share the same opinion on.

[fenikz]

I don't think there is any chance that Sherk and Franca don't end the fight on the ground, although i would like Sherk to lose his belt, he bores me, like Sylvia used to do

[MaxV]

here are my bets for tonight

Silva over Marquardt (1st round KO)
Sherk over Franca (2nd round Submission)
Evans over Ortiz (Unanimous Decision)
Minotauro over Herring (2nd round KO)
Robinson over Florian (2nd round Submisson)

Nog by KO? I guess it's possible, but I see him winning it by a submission.

[fenikz]

i figure why not complete the trifecta, win by decision, submission, & KO

[UKfan]

I like all your stuff basically. I really think Franca can beat Sherk with that famous (AND UGLY!) overhand right, I also think he could get him with some BJJ on the ground but for some reason my gut is telling my Sherks gonna either lay and pray to a decision or GNP poor Hermes. The rest I share the same opinion on.

That overhand right is one of the worst looking punches I have ever seen, but I think he could quite easily catch Sherk with one as Hermes swings pretty wild. It's going to have to be early as well I think as Sherk has cardio for days...

[ccB]

Nog by KO? I guess it's possible, but I see him winning it by a submission.

Nog's boxing is underrated because his subs are so good he can and will punch you in the face, hard.

[gbpackers0065]

I'm heading off to the fight now, I hope I come back a winner. Wish me Luck!

[ccB]

Around an hour and a half away, Ive been waiting for this card since April. Cant F ing wait.

[Ravens1991]

I wish I had PPV

[Ravens1991]

live play by play on sherdog.com

it is Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=8192

[ccB]

live play by play on sherdog.com

it is Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=8192

If you searched the internet a little bit harder you could find more than just the play by play free.

[Ravens1991]

poop. o well there is always UFC 74

[gbpackers0065]

Well, I just came home from the fight to get changed then I'm going out to celebrate BECAUSE I WON! 1min 11sec into the 1st round Rear-Naked Choke! Let me tell you, it is pretty cool to say: "Hi, I'm gbpackers0065 and I have an undefeated Mixed Martial Arts record." I'll update with details tomorrow, I'm out.

[MaxV]

Sounds like Nog survived a tough one.