MMA Discussion Thread - SPOILERS!

[nepg]

That was actually a great start to TUF. I might actually watch the second half of the shows this season.

[Rob S]

Nick Pace vs Miguel Torres....Yea buddy! Pace making moves.

[jayceheathman]

I am ready for tomorrow night. :)

[jayceheathman]

Man I'm excited for the new TUF season. Off to a good start.

Also...I absolutely can't stand Michael Bisping. Hoping Mayhem kicks his ass.

I don't think I will ever forget the Hendo KO of Bisping. That was so awesome.

[Rob S]

Everyone should watch Escobedo vs Mizagaki on FB right now. Has FOTN written all over it.

[Bosanac01]

I think I'll be watching this at Hooters again. Should be a good show.

[jayceheathman]

I think I'll be watching this at Hooters again. Should be a good show.

I have done that before but every time I try their is an hour or so wait just to get in. This Hooters doesn't make you pay $5 like some of them do so the line gets long.

[Bosanac01]

I just remembered I waited like 30 mins for a table last time, I think I'll stay at home and hope to watch it on a stream.

[fenikz]

When I've watched it at Hooters we just showed up a hour before hand and basically just got seated like a normal day

Jones v Jackson - 2nd round TKO
Hughes v Koscheck - UD
Rothwell v Hunt - 1st round Sub
Brown v Broughton - 1st round TKO
Diaz v Gomi - 3rd round Sub

[nepg]

My stream is dog ass. Anyone have a reliable one?

[Rob S]

My stream is dog ass. Anyone have a reliable one?

as is mine haha

[josh07039]

as is mine hahaIm usually set on streams and mine all suck too. Maybe dana wanted to make a lot of money on this one and made a redoubled effort to shut **** down.

[nepg]

Half-tempted to just turn it off and watch them tomorrow.

[fenikz]

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/4964/2/ufc-135-jon-%22bones%22-jones-vs-quinton-%22rampage%22-jackson-main-event-card-only.html

[nepg]

That one might actually be worse than the one I had. LOL.

[fenikz]

works perfect for me, clear your cache

[Rob S]

I think I'm gonna watch it in the AM. Nice lead in for football, especially since the morning EPL game sucks tm.

[Rob S]

works perfect for me, clear your cache

It is real nice picture quality wise, just buffering like crazy.

[fenikz]

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/82191/2/watch-ufc-135:-jones-vs.-rampage.html

2nd link seems to be perfect

[josh07039]

I never ever would think that Mark Hunt would do something like that in a fight.

[MidwayMonster31]

Body punches are a lost art. If Hunt threw more in the 3rd round, he might have finished it.

[Bosanac01]

I need streamzz

[nepg]

Love watching Mark Hunt fight. So glad he started fixed his ground game. LOL @ Joe Rogan complimenting Rothwell's conditioning after the first round when the guy was completely gassed 2 minutes into the fight.

[Hines]

That looked easy for Koscheck.

[Complex]

Link? plz ....

[Hurricanes25]

Link? plz ....

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/4964/2/ufc-135-jon-%22bones%22-jones-vs-quinton-%22rampage%22-jackson-main-event-card-only.html

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/82191/2/watch-ufc-135:-jones-vs.-rampage.html

2nd link seems to be perfect

I'm using the first one.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

My favourite 205lb fighters going at it now. Should be fun.

[Hines]

I'm so excited. Let's go Bones!!!

[josh07039]

I dont think I care so much who wins because there are things about both that i can enjoy and things that irritate me a bit. I have no real problem with either, but neither oneis my favorite. Im more impressed with Jones as a talent than a fan and for Rampage I more find him amusing.

[nepg]

I don't think it matters too much to me who wins, but it'd be nice to see Jones step up and take control of the LHW division and give everyone else someone to really gun for.

[nepg]

That looked easy for Koscheck.
He was just too long for Hughes.

[jayceheathman]

All the reliable streams are sucking tonight. The longest I got to watch this fight is about 4 seconds without it freezing for a little bit. I guess everyone is online wanting to watch it.

[Hines]

Jones is just toying with Rampage right now.

[jayceheathman]

My streams were so bad that I think I saw a total of 10 seconds of that fight. I re-loaded it and then heard Bruce Buffer with the decision.

[JRTPlaya21]

Too easy for Jones. Talk less trash next time Rampage.

[Hurricanes25]

Gotta love Jones. That was effortless for him.

[jayceheathman]

Too easy for Jones. Talk less trash next time Rampage.

It wasn't his fault. Jones' was spying on his camp. haha

[Bosanac01]

Good win for Jon Jones, I wish he beat him with a KO but still good fight.

[nepg]

Too easy for Jones. Talk less trash next time Rampage.
Rampage's job is to talk and sell the fight. That's why his first two title defenses are against Rampage and Rashad. Those two will sell the fight, Jones won't.

[fenikz]

no one will touch him, not a man on ufc's roster that has a chance

[jayceheathman]

Rampage's job is to talk and sell the fight. That's why his first two title defenses are against Rampage and Rashad. Those two will sell the fight, Jones won't.

Trash talking sells so it pays for the fighters to do that. Frank Mir gets a lot of top fights by talking trash about guys like Brock.

[Rob S]

no one will touch him, not a man on ufc's roster that has a chance

Call me crazy, but I would like to see Machida have a crack.

[jayceheathman]

Call me crazy, but I would like to see Machida have a crack.

I would like to see that too.

[Bosanac01]

I would like to see Anderson Silva back at 205 and have a crack.

[Cudders]

Essentially two intriguing fights left for Bones in Machida and Anderson Silva. The former will probably happen at some point. The latter most likely will not. Jones has a few contenders he needs to lay to rest at 205 before he ever faces the Spider, and by that time, I don't think I would want to see an even older Anderson be ragdolled around the Octagon.

To me, Machida is the most legitimate threat to supplant Jones from the 205 throne. He's got an unorthodox sumo style of grappling in the clinch that might have a shot at nullifying Bones' impressive Greco-Roman base. Compounding that, he is by far the most evasive counterstriker Jones will have ever seen. Bones put on a nice little clinic in the striking department last night, but the difference between hitting Rampage and Machida is huge. Rampage is a stalker. He lumbers around the cage. It isn't hard to predict where he's going to be or what he's going to be doing. Machida is the exact opposite. It isn't easy to track him around the Octagon. He's an incredibly fluid fighter in how he attacks and moves. In addition, I think Machida has the ability to pepper Bones' thin legs with some textbook kicks and neutralize a little of that insane athleticism. It would be interesting to see how Jones would endure those for five rounds. I don't think Machida would have much of a shot at finishing him though. He'd have to outpoint him and win on experience. Overall, I really hope this fight happens. I think it is a tremendous stylistic match-up.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I wouldn't rule out Hendo even at his age. Sure his takedown defense isn't the greatest even given his wrestling pedigree but still Jones won't be able to take him down immediately and it would be a question of if Jones can stay alive from the H-bomb before getting it on the matt. Even on the matt Hendo is pretty durable. I'd still take Bones but that would be an interesting fight as well. Call be crazy but even King Mo would be an interesting matchup, it's astonishing to me to see a guy like Phil Davis at #6 in rankings and King Mo outside of the top 10. Bones would have a hard time taking down Mo and Mo has some solid boxing especially with his reaching jab, he's also got a great chin. I think it would be a very competitive fight until Mo gasses round 3 or 4. Gustaffson is the guy in the future to watch for with his striking style and submissions. Most people say Phil Davis could challenge but he literally would have zero chance for Bones. He struggled to take down lil nog so he's not taking down Bones, plus his standup is horrendous.

[nepg]

He's going to brutalize Evans (who will then go down to 185) and then he'll get Machida. Silva probably isn't going up to 205 anymore. He has said he isn't going to fight Jones, and I really don't think Joe Silva and Dana White want to make that fight either because putting both of those fighters in a position to lose in the same fight is a bad play.

[Rosebud]

If Bones can figure out how to hit Machida I don't see why Jones/Spider would be bad for the MMA. You've got the two best fighters in the world taking each other on, so of course one of them is going to be put in position to lose, but this type of mega fight would be huge for drawing even more people into the UFC, plus if all goes well we could see the most impressive trilogy in the history of MMA.

[nepg]

If Bones can figure out how to hit Machida I don't see why Jones/Spider would be bad for the MMA. You've got the two best fighters in the world taking each other on, so of course one of them is going to be put in position to lose, but this type of mega fight would be huge for drawing even more people into the UFC, plus if all goes well we could see the most impressive trilogy in the history of MMA.
Silva would get pushed against the cage and put on the mat. If Machida can't figure out Jones, there's no way Silva can because his TDD is just no where near Machida's and there's no way Jones bothers striking with Anderson when he knows he doesn't have to. It's a bad fight, and there's a reason Silva already said he won't fight Jones.

Same reason GSP won't fight Silva. GSP has no way to win.

If Jones goes through Evans and Machida, by then Mousasi should be back where he should be and we'll might see him in the UFC v. Jones. Either that, or Phil Davis (who should be glad he didn't have to fight Evans because he needs more work on his striking).

[Rosebud]

Silva would get pushed against the cage and put on the mat. If Machida can't figure out Jones, there's no way Silva can because his TDD is just no where near Machida's and there's no way Jones bothers striking with Anderson when he knows he doesn't have to. It's a bad fight, and there's a reason Silva already said he won't fight Jones.

Same reason GSP won't fight Silva. GSP has no way to win.

If Jones goes through Evans and Machida, by then Mousasi should be back where he should be and we'll might see him in the UFC v. Jones. Either that, or Phil Davis (who should be glad he didn't have to fight Evans because he needs more work on his striking).

*shrug* anderson's got the speed and striking to finish that fight if he can stay away from Bones. Bones is a freak and all, but if Anderson's swinging at his best he can knock you out on the way into your first takedown.

[MidwayMonster31]

Rampage had a lot of trouble getting around Jones' longer reach. At least Anderson can move his head well enough to get close. But I think Jones would dominate him on the ground, as long as he is wary of Silva's submissions.

[nepg]

Anderson has one of the longest reaches in MMA and would still be at a 7" disadvantage against Jon Jones. Anderson is worlds better as a striker, but Jones is just too big, too fast, too strong, and too good on the ground. Anderson won't take a fight he doesn't think he can win (same with any quality fighter), and there's no way he thinks he can win against Jones.

[nepg]

*shrug* anderson's got the speed and striking to finish that fight if he can stay away from Bones. Bones is a freak and all, but if Anderson's swinging at his best he can knock you out on the way into your first takedown.
Jones has the length and speed to never let Anderson get to him, though. And for takedowns, Jones would utilize the clinch and upperbody takedowns...he wouldn't risk shooting on Anderson.

[Rosebud]

Jones has the length and speed to never let Anderson get to him, though. And for takedowns, Jones would utilize the clinch and upperbody takedowns...he wouldn't risk shooting on Anderson.

Either these words mean something different to me than they do to you, or you're saying that if Anderson is slippery enough he'd get his chances to wail on Jones.

[nepg]

Either these words mean something different to me than they do to you, or you're saying that if Anderson is slippery enough he'd get his chances to wail on Jones.
No, he'd be pinned up against the cage getting his feet stomped while Jones worked a trip.

[Rob S]

Let me say that I make Bones a favorite over Anderson. That said, if Jones stays standing with Anderson he is likely getting KTFO. I make Jones the favorite because he should be able to dominate the ground game like Sonnen, but he will have the strength to finish while it's down there. Make no mistake about it though, if it stays standing and Jones gives Anderson 25 minutes to land something, he absolutely will.

[E-Man]

Let me say that I make Bones a favorite over Anderson. That said, if Jones stays standing with Anderson he is likely getting KTFO. I make Jones the favorite because he should be able to dominate the ground game like Sonnen, but he will have the strength to finish while it's down there. Make no mistake about it though, if it stays standing and Jones gives Anderson 25 minutes to land something, he absolutely will.

I feel the same way. Anderson's got some good defensive wrestling, but it's not stopping Jones. On the feet though Anderson would exploit the hell out of Bones. Right now Bones is good at standup, but Anderson is great at catching guys at their weakest. He would certainly find a flaw in Jones' standup. Hell he might just catch a kick and tag him like he did with Irvin. Bones doesn't snap his kicks so hard that they can't be caught and countered.

[Cudders]

I'm in the same camp. I will favor Jones over Anderson if that superfight ever comes to fruition, but it would have nothing to do with Bones' striking. I don't want to hear about his insane reach advantage. I don't want to hear about his evolution as a striker. None of that matters to me. If he tried to stand and bang with Anderson Silva for five rounds, the Spider would be walking out of the Octagon with two world championships. Bones has talked about watching Anderson's fights in the past and tailoring certain elements to his own game. That would get him nowhere with Anderson though. Anderson has spent his whole life mastering the art of stand-up. He's honed pugilistic subtleties and developed into a ruthless Muay Thai practitioner. He has adroit head movement, impeccable timing, surgical precision, flawless form, killer speed, and the power to strike his opponent with devastating combinations in rapid succession. Jones would be outclassed on his feet in every category except reach. And reach alone would not be enough to save Bones. Eventually Anderson would find his opening and pounce.

That said, I think Jones is smart enough to know that and would look to get the fight to the ground as soon as possible. But, in the time it takes to close the distance, he would be vulnerable to flurries of fists, elbows, feet, knees. Anderson throws them all well and Bones could eat a big one coming in. I wouldn't want to truly test my chin for the first time that way. Once Bones has Anderson pinned though, I think it would be all over. Jones isn't like Sonnen. He wouldn't be content with remaining just active enough to avoid being stood up. He would look to inflict serious damage and attempt to finish the fight. I think it would be a matter of time before one of those vicious elbows ended Anderson's unbeaten streak. Sure, Anderson has his jiu-jitsu off his back in that position, and Jones' submission defense is a bit of an unknown still, but I wouldn't like those odds for the Spider. Shogun is no slouch on the ground at all and was hard-pressed to hit an escape or sweep Jones.

Personally, I don't think it will ever happen though, and I'm not that disappointed. I think Machida is a better stylistic match-up. Henderson intrigues me a little. But, if I were given Joe Silva's job for a day and allowed to make any match for Jones, it would be against Cain or JDS.

[E-Man]

Words can't express how excited I am that we're getting three titles defended in the next two weekends. The great thing is that these titles are coming in some of the most exciting weight classes: 155, 145, and 135. I'm most excited for Cruz vs. Mighty Mouse. I am really high on Edgar and Maynard going at it again, but man I see some ultra crazy **** happening with a lot of slick reversals and fast paced action. Edgar and Maynard would still be good too. Their first fight was a good battle between two young guys that were hungry, but their second fight is still my choice for Fight of the year.

Aldo vs. Florian is intriguing, but more for the aspect of seeing someone as great as Aldo fighting. Don't get me wrong, I am not under selling Kenny at all. he is a good fighter that has evolved into a good striker with a nice ground game, but I don't think that he'll do enough to take out Aldo. Aldo is just gifted. He's so patient with picking guys apart that it's hard to outgun him. He's great at defending takedowns too. It's just a matter of seeing one guy as much better, but anything can happen so nothing is guaranteed.

[nepg]

I didn't much care for Edgar-Maynard II, and really can't get excited for III. The second fight was exciting in the first round when Maynard almost ended it, then it was just lame. Neither did much of anything the rest of the fight.

[Raiderz4Life]

Edgar and Maynard are both boring. I expect another snooze fest rather than FOTN or even FOTY.

145 and 35 will be intriguing though.

[E-Man]

The Edgar Maynard rematch was incredible beyond the comeback. Both guys are very good at boxing and wrestling, so it was a very intriguing chess match. I love watching fights that are very even between highly skilled guys. I could watch their rematch all day.

[fenikz]

all 3 fights have potential to be fight of the year candidates imo, Aldo vs Florian being the most lopsided but still should be very exciting.

Gonna try to watch this whole season of TUF for once, love the smaller weight classes should lead to good fights, just wish they morphed this from a reality show to more of a weekly fight with a mix of TUF guys and UFC guys

[E-Man]

I thought it was funny when the guy on TUF said that he got into MMA because he loves Dragonball Z and Rampage highlights. "Man **** Naruto!" He had me rollin' with that comment. He was very very raw too. He's got some good strength and punching power, but that's really all he had. His takedown defense wasn't bad, but he got tired too fast. He also has no knowledge of the ground game either. Maybe in the future someone can mold him, but right now he needs to get a lot more experience under his belt. The dude has some great shots off his back. If he gets with the right camp he could be pretty dangerous in a few years.

Caraway got too overconfident there. He gassed as well, and he's lucky Marcus was so raw. He's got to work on his conditioning.

[fenikz]

early stoppage but he wasnt getting out of that round

[Raiderz4Life]

Still though...crazy **** happens. Shouda waited a bit more.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

That's what happens when you have no back up plan to lay n pray. BTW so pumped for Hulk Easton, definitely had a ton of pressure but he's gonna be a legit contender at 35. BTW just horrible stoppages tonight, the Yamasaki bro's are screwing up royally. In an earlier fight Mario's bro stopped a fight when roller was caught in an arm bar but his arm wasn't even extended and he still had his arms grasped together.

[fenikz]

I was wondering how Roller lost

[Rob S]

I love watching Cruz fight. Can't wait for the main event.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Lets go Mighty Mouse!!!

[fenikz]

amazing fight so far, got those 2-1 for Mighty Mouse

[Rob S]

amazing fight so far, got those 2-1 for Mighty Mouse

I think you're crazy. I think Cruz clearly won 1 and 3, with DJ taking 2 easily. Stand up in rd 1 was fairly even, but Cruz had 2 takedowns and got side control twice.

[Rob S]

Mighty Mouse needs a finish here imo.....gotta press and stay off his back.

[fenikz]

hell of a fight, Cruz 3-2 imo

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Clear decision for Cruz, it's just a pipe dream that one day the UFC will have standups.

[ryno626]

Dana announced Machida vs Bones for 140 via his twitter

[FuzzyGopher]

What happened to Evans?

[fenikz]

thumb injury i guess, must be torn ligaments or something

[nepg]

What happened to Evans?
He has pins in his thumb. Who knows when he'll get them out and he can't even start to think about rehab until that happens.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Not that it isn't a great matchup and maybe the one guy who could threaten Bones, but really you lose 2 straight and knock out grandpa Couture and get a title shot, really shows how lousy the 205 division is with true contenders. IMO they should have just given Bones Hendo right away since he isn't getting any younger and is riding off his big strikeforce wins.

[nepg]

Meh... The judges said otherwise, but most in the MMA community saw Machida beat Rampage.

[Bosanac01]

I found the funniest interview on youtube. Not sure if it's been posted before.

V1R50LpFh_M

[Rosebud]

I found the funniest interview on youtube. Not sure if it's been posted before.

V1R50LpFh_M

That was pretty awesome, but Forrest is just a great interview. I wish I could find this one he did after he drove through a hurricane.

EDIT: Found it.
FuAuWoHScFg

[Bosanac01]

That was pretty awesome, but Forrest is just a great interview. I wish I could find this one he did after he drove through a hurricane.

EDIT: Found it.
FuAuWoHScFg

That was funny

"I genuinely don't like myself, so it really it really confuses me when other people say they genuinely like me."

[nepg]

Santiago-Maia in prelims? Awesome!

[MetSox17]

+rep for a stream of the main card.

[Raiderz4Life]

OMG!!! Joe Lauzon...wtf!!! wow

[FuzzyGopher]

http://magic-tv.co/?page_id=10
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/84736/1/watch-ufc-136---frank-edgar-vs-gray-maynard-iii.html

[fenikz]

this fight should be amazing(like all garcia fights)

[Raiderz4Life]

Such a shame Nam hits like a 5yr old girl. His technique is great, gas tank great, he'll tag you a lot...but he just doesn't have KO power.

[josh07039]

Such a shame Nam hits like a 5yr old girl. His technique is great, gas tank great, he'll tag you a lot...but he just doesn't have KO power.Hes landing like 5-6 punch combinations though, its kinda ridiculous to see. A lot of it is on garcia, but its funny to see a guy land combos like its on a bag during a fight.

[Raiderz4Life]

Wow Garcia swung himself back into the fight haha. Nam almost got put to sleep haha wow

[FuzzyGopher]

Garcia fights like a little kid, he just throws hay-makers and doesn't defend himself.

[Raiderz4Life]

Garcia fights like a little kid, he just throws hay-makers and doesn't defend himself.

Can't say its not entertaining though lol

[nepg]

That fight was ******* awesome.

[FuzzyGopher]

Definitely entertaining, just not technically sound.

[nepg]

Such a shame Nam hits like a 5yr old girl. His technique is great, gas tank great, he'll tag you a lot...but he just doesn't have KO power.
He can put more in those punches. I like that he doesn't, though because his technique is so great. I'd like to see him develop more power for those short punches.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Garcia's power is so overrated he has the worst technique in mma, makes for awesome fights but his power is nothing, he's tagged guys a ton, he basically is winging punches from his shoulder. Dude is going to have massive rotator cuff issues lol.

[josh07039]

Garcia's power is so overrated he has the worst technique in mma, makes for awesome fights but his power is nothing, he's tagged guys a ton, he basically is winging punches from his shoulder. Dude is going to have massive rotator cuff issues lol.I dont care how hard you throw your punches, if they dont land, you have no power at all.

[Complex]

Has the Jose Aldo fight started yet? if so link

[FuzzyGopher]

http://lsh.lshunter.tv/index.php?opt...t&layout=popup
http://lsh.lshunter.tv/index.php?opt...t&layout=popup
http://lsh.lshunter.tv/index.php?opt...t&layout=popup
http://www.sport24.me/streams/CreepyTV.html
http://www.sport24.me/streams/CreepyTV2.html
http://vstream.eu/?p=channeldetails&id=tykestv23
http://vstream.eu/?p=channeldetails&id=MallUFCCCCCCCCC
http://magic-tv.co/?page_id=10
http://aymo-sportss.blogspot.com/
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/106723

[FuzzyGopher]

Yessssss. I love Sonnen.

[FuzzyGopher]

Lol, Chael is the best troll ever.

[josh07039]

He is easily my favorite fighter. He looked amazing tonight and I would pick him over Silva in a rematch. How the hell does the UFC even handle this? I don't even understand a challenge like that occurring outside of the WWE.

[Complex]

Silba would destroy Sonnen but did remind of the WWE. I hope they have a buried alive match or I quit match soon.

[FuzzyGopher]

Sonnen beat Silva's ass for 24 minutes before Silva slapped on a triangle.

[MetSox17]

Damn, Aldo looks like he just snorted Heisenberg's blue crystal meth.

[Complex]

Sonnen on steroids beat Silva's ass with broken or fractured for 24 minutes before Silva slapped on a triangle.

fixed for accuracy

[nepg]

Sonnen beat Silva's ass for 24 minutes before Silva slapped on a triangle.
Silva had a bad strategy going into the fight. He wanted to make Sonnen wear himself out and didn't defend any takedowns because he wanted to submit Sonnen.

If they fought again, I wouldn't give Sonnen much of a chance.

[nepg]

Florian is completely gassed. He can't handle Championship rounds at that weight.

[fenikz]

Florian should not be awarded any points for failed takedowns, Aldo 4-1

judges agree :o

[MetSox17]

Yeah, at no point did i really see Aldo in danger, and if anyone should get points in those take down attempts it should be Aldo. He stuffed 'em all.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Chad Mendes is the only guy who can challenge Aldo at 45. I do think a superfight with Cruz could be interesting because While Aldo can finish him at any time Aldo tends to cruise in fights and look more for power than combinations and Cruz can outpoint anyone with his volume of hits landed.

[Bosanac01]

fixed for accuracy

Please take down your sig, it's taking too much of my time.

[josh07039]

Please take down your sig, it's taking too much of my time.Don't tell him what to do....it enriches my day.

[Raiderz4Life]

Total De Ja Vu lol....Maynard was a lot smarter though.

[nepg]

Frankie is all ****** up. Broken nose, ****** up eye. Frankie looks like he's recovered for the 2nd, though.

[FuzzyGopher]

Good god....Edgar got ****** up.

[nepg]

Florian should not be awarded any points for failed takedowns, Aldo 4-1

judges agree :o
Yeah, I don't get people trying to say Florian won anything after the first. He spent the entire fight avoiding Aldo. The fourth round was spent stalling against the fence and getting his takedowns stuffed. 4-1 (and I don't even like giving him the 1)

[nepg]

Frankie's got the 2nd round... Gray missed his opportunity AGAIN.

[fenikz]

so idk what maynard is doing, from complete domination to doing entirely nothing

[Raiderz4Life]

AAww well this sucks. Maynard...w..t..f.....get it going again.

[Raiderz4Life]

Gray Maynard....wtf was that.

Frankie Edgar is my 2nd least favorite champion.

[josh07039]

Edgar is the toughest son of a ***** Ive ever seen. He just needs to remember to come to fight five minutes earlier.

[FuzzyGopher]

Nice work Gray.

[MetSox17]

Man, Frankie ****** him up pretty good there.

[nepg]

Terrible, Maynard. Great job recovering and finishing by Frankie.

Gray looked ******* stupid trying to punch Frankie after the first round. Baffles me that he wouldn't just take him down (or at least put him against the fence if he couldn't get the takedown).

[E-Man]

Edgar is the ****! The man has championship heart and skill. Can't wait to see him fight Gil if he beats Masvidal. Gray let himself down by having no game plan and getting 1 shot happy.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Melendez IMO would finish Edgar and actually has killer instinct and would get it to the ground if need be. I do love Edgar though although I hate watching him because of his fcking annoying wife. Good lord shut up

[Bosanac01]

Someone tell me how I can watch what just happened.

[nepg]

Someone tell me how I can watch what just happened.
mmalinker.com

[SeanTaylorRIP]

After tonight I'd love to see Maynard vs Guillard and Lauzon vs Pettis.

[nepg]

Maynard would just take Guillard down and sub him. Lauzon-Pettis is a good fight. They're both on about the same level (Pettis is horribly overrated from the cage kick). Lauzon beats Guillard 1/10 times...I was pretty disappointed with that one as I'd like to see Guillard move on to some better fights...but he's still too one-dimensional.

[Caddy]

Just finished watching 136. Nice to see Joe Lauzon get the sneaky upset. At least we know Melvin Guillard is always going to choke when he gets close to earning a title shot. Phan vs Garcia was pretty funny, third round had me laughing a lot. Stann got completely outclassed. Nice story, average fighter. Florian should just retire already so somebody can replace damn Joe Rogan. I don't think anything needs to be said about Edgar, dude proved he is a real champion.

[FuzzyGopher]

I think he means Gilbert Melendez not Melvin Guillard, which would be a pretty awesome fight.

[josh07039]

One of my favorite moments from UFC 136 was when Mike Goldberg claimed that Gray cuts from 200 and then Joe said that there is no way he gets up that high to which Goldberg basically responded with "Ive seen him."

As much as I hate Goldberg, I've started to realize that there are many times where he just spouts stupid background info because Rogan is silently entranced with what is happening and Goldberg feels he needs to fill the silence. I guess there is nothing you can do about Rogan being a stupid stoner sometimes.

I happen to like Rogan for the most part despite his favoritism, inability to call the action when he gets excited instead just yelling ohhhhhhhh, love for all leg kicks, etc.

[Rob S]

I really like Rogan and feel he has improved greatly over the years.

[djp]

One of my favorite moments from UFC 136 was when Mike Goldberg claimed that Gray cuts from 200 and then Joe said that there is no way he gets up that high to which Goldberg basically responded with "Ive seen him."

As much as I hate Goldberg, I've started to realize that there are many times where he just spouts stupid background info because Rogan is silently entranced with what is happening and Goldberg feels he needs to fill the silence. I guess there is nothing you can do about Rogan being a stupid stoner sometimes.

I happen to like Rogan for the most part despite his favoritism, inability to call the action when he gets excited instead just yelling ohhhhhhhh, love for all leg kicks, etc.

They just really need a third guy, have it be a rotating spot with guys who are in between fights and want a little extra cash. They have a sore need for a guy who is an actual fighter and has had success recently.

Rogan is actually pretty quality, he's very good at explaining positions on the ground, what each guy needs to do to move up the guard/escape the guard. Goldberg is not going anywhere, and although he can be very goonish at times, he does add excitement to the fight and seems to be pretty professional.

[Brent]

I think they're both perfect for UFC. I would love to hear Goldberg do an NFL game haha. Ken Flo does well when he announces, too.

[Raiderz4Life]

Just watched the Sonnen fight because I missed it last night. I LOVED the post fight lmao

Anderson Silva...you absolutely suck....love it haha

[nepg]

One of my favorite moments from UFC 136 was when Mike Goldberg claimed that Gray cuts from 200 and then Joe said that there is no way he gets up that high to which Goldberg basically responded with "Ive seen him."

As much as I hate Goldberg, I've started to realize that there are many times where he just spouts stupid background info because Rogan is silently entranced with what is happening and Goldberg feels he needs to fill the silence. I guess there is nothing you can do about Rogan being a stupid stoner sometimes.

I happen to like Rogan for the most part despite his favoritism, inability to call the action when he gets excited instead just yelling ohhhhhhhh, love for all leg kicks, etc.
Goldberg is a troll.

[MetSox17]

I just don't think there's enough going on for there to be three people calling a fight. Two is perfect, and for the most part, Rogan does a great job. He does a wonderful job explaining everything very technically and in detail, but it does all go to **** when he gets excited, lol.

[fenikz]

i think rogan is perfect what were the odds of the ufc finding a practicing BJJ guy with tv/radio/stand up experience

[nepg]

The only rearl problem I have with the UFC announcers aside from Goldberg trolling is their bias towards a fighter and making the fight seem one-sided in favor of one fighter when, in actuality, the other fighter is controlling the fight and/or doing more damage.

[MidwayMonster31]

One of the reasons that Joe Tessitore and Teddy Atlas work so well together on ESPN is that you have Joe, who never gets too high up or too high down, who knows enough about the sport to give good information on what's going on and he also gives good background info on the fighter. Teddy was a former trainer, so he knows how any fighter can win and he always gives much better information on the technical stuff.
Florian's great as a color commentator since he gives really good analysis. Rogan has improved, but they just don't work well together.

[E-Man]

I wonder where Gray goes from here. He's a top 3 guy, but no more matches with Edgar. I'm thinking he fights a top 10-15, and if Edgar loses the belt he can move to a shot. I wanna see him fight BJ.

[Bosanac01]

i wanna see him in a different weight class.

[nepg]

Gray is useless at any other weight. He's going to just keep others from getting title shots like Fitch at 170.

[E-Man]

155 is so deep that it could take awhile before Gray gets another title shot, but even if he does he would deserve it. He went to a draw with Frankie on his first shot, and even though he got finished in his second he still is one of the best lightweights out there. If Frankie loses to a guy like Gil or Bendo/Guida then I would love to see Gray fight them after stringing together a few wins. Too bad B.J. up and left the division. There are much more interesting mathcups at 155 for him than at 170. It's not like he's worth another shot at GSP anyway. I bet GSP keeps the belt longer than Frankie does, so he might as well stay at the class with the better talent.

[nepg]

BJ isn't going to fight much longer. If he loses to Diaz, he might be done. He moved to 170 because there's mire money in those fights.

[MetSox17]

BJ isn't going to fight much longer. If he loses to Diaz, he might be done. He moved to 170 because there's mire money in those fights.

He has family money, i don't think the weight change is as cut and dry as that..

[nepg]

Bigger names at 170. He isn't going to spend his last days ad an MMA fighter fighting Clay Guida and Anthony Pettis.

[MetSox17]

Yeah, you don't wanna end your career losing to guys like Pettis and Guida.

[The_Dude]

anyone got a link for tonights fights?

[slightlyaraiderfan]

i need a link too, purdy plz?

[Rob S]

A Cro Cop LHK KO would be so epic. Alas, he will probably get dominated here. *Sigh*

[Omar]

Can anyone hook me up with a link?

[nepg]

I hate how biased Rogan & Goldie are towards Mittrione in this fight. I'm not a Kongo fan (want Matt to win), but come on!

"He really has an advanced striking game, he's doing a great job defending." (Mittrione getting tee'd off on the whole time Rogan is saying this)

[Bosanac01]

Someone link me pls.

[fenikz]

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/88986/1/watch-ufc-137:-bj-penn-vs-nick-diaz.html

[fenikz]

wow

that was just simply amazing boxing 10-8 round imo

[Omar]

I ******* hate the Diazs.

How the **** does he have the nerve to chirp GSP after essentially dodging him

[fenikz]

Diaz is god, CCB you need to bring back the avy

and he missed a press conference how is that dodging GSP?

[Complex]

Wow, Diaz made Penn retire


I can't wait till Diaz beats down GSP.

[Omar]

Diaz is god, CCB you need to bring back the avy

GSP dropped out of his fight with Condit because of an injury.

Diaz dropped out of his fight with GSP because he is a moron

[Omar]

Wow, Diaz made Penn retire


I can't wait till Diaz beats down GSP.

GSP is going to beat Diaz. Just wrestle him to teh ground and get the victory.

[Rob S]

GSP will UD Diaz easily so long as he fights in the same **** style as usual.

[fenikz]

I agree that would happen but Diaz is the only even miniscule threat left for GSP in that division

And Diaz has never and would never avoid a fight, dana kicked him off it

[Omar]

I agree that would happen but Diaz is the only even miniscule threat left for GSP in that division

And Diaz has never and would never avoid a fight, dana kicked him off it

Diaz essentially forced Dana to kick him off of the fight. He knew what he was doing would get him kicked off. What diaz did is more of a dodge than GSP

[Docta]

Diaz is god, CCB you need to bring back the avy

and he missed a press conference how is that dodging GSP?
And how do you know that he didn't miss it on purpose, so he wouldn't have to fight GSP?

I don't believe it, but you never know..

[Rob S]

Diaz essentially forced Dana to kick him off of the fight. He knew what he was doing would get him kicked off. What diaz did is more of a dodge than GSP

I honestly think Diaz was probably testing Dana's mettle. Fighters generally lose when they do that.

Fenikz, I agree that he is certainly the most interesting fight out there right now for GSP. As much as I like Diaz and would be pulling for him, I kinda just want to get the boring UD over with and see the big money matchup with Silva.

[Rob S]

And how do you know that he didn't miss it on purpose, so he wouldn't have to fight GSP?

I don't believe it, but you never know..

There is no way his intention was getting out of a fight. This is Nick Diaz here. He was either just being an asshole and testing Dana or he was high as **** and forgot/didnt feel like showing up.

[fenikz]

ya seriously think about it. whats more likely Diaz was being a ****** and missed a plane or that he actually doesn't want to fight someone?

[Docta]

But do you think he'd want to get embarrassed if he felt that he wasn't ready yet? Cocky fighters don't like to get embarrassed.

[Omar]

ya seriously think about it. whats more likely Diaz was being a ****** and missed a plane or that he actually doesn't want to fight someone?

But him being a ****** puts him at much more fault than GSP. I also can't believe that he didn't know his actions would lead(or at least potentially lead) to his title shot being taken away

[E-Man]

Nice win by Diaz, but I don't see how people favor him over GSP. There's no way you're just going to take a bunch of shots to corner GSP into the cage. GSP is great at making sure there is a bunch of space and being a hard target to hit. Diaz on the other hand has some really ****** striking defense. He uses his great chin as defense, and as great as that works for him it won't help against GSP. GSP won't get tired and become an easy target. GSP also is a much more crisp striker with more reach than Diaz, so he WILL outbox him and not take any damage. If Diaz gets in too many shots he'll take him down and work him over on the ground. Diaz's guard is very active and good, but GSP's top control is second to none, and going for subs is going to give GSP more openings to really hammer him on the ground like he did to BJ. Georges is really going to hurt Diaz, and it's not going to be close at all. You're talking about one of the best fighters of all time going against a brawler with heart and cardio. That **** is not going to fly against a guy who is the smartest fighter in MMA.

[FSPH]

GSP will win all rounds by decision like always. He won't finish Diaz

[nepg]

Diaz showed incredibly improved TDD technique in the BJ Penn fight, but GSP is a lot bigger than BJ, and Diaz doesn't have the reach advantage he's used to (they're both 76", but Diaz is taller which gives him an advantage).

I've always felt this fight will be GSP taking Diaz down and laying on him for 5 rounds, but if Diaz can keep it standing, things could get interesting.

[E-Man]

GSP will win all rounds by decision like always. He won't finish Diaz

Diaz is incredibly hard to finish though. He's got one of the best chins in MMA, so to beat him it'll have to be by cuts or the doctor in between rounds. Of course that chin could crack one day if he's not careful. Look at Leben, Chuck, and Wand. Guys had chins of stone, but after a while that damage adds up.

[nepg]

GSP doesn't finish anyone anyway.

[Complex]

GSP couldn't finish Dan Hardy or Koscheck with one eye.He isn't going to finish Diaz.

[Caddy]

Rumble is moving up to MW to fight Vitor Belfort :\

[fenikz]

Rumble is moving up to MW to fight Vitor Belfort :\

finally, the scary thing is that Rumble will probably get bigger

[Caddy]

finally, the scary thing is that Rumble will probably get bigger

Hopefully this means he will have a bit more cardio in fights. I like the move, but he is still going to be wrestle-****** by the wrestlers in the division.

[nepg]

Rumble is moving up to MW to fight Vitor Belfort :\
Terrible move for Rumble...

[FuzzyGopher]

I'm going to miss Rumble showing up to weigh ins on life support from cutting too much.

[E-Man]

I actually wanted to see Rumble fight Diaz, Condit, or Alves, but moving up could be good for him. The big thing with him is injuries though. Maybe the move can help him out with his durability.

[josh07039]

Let me start off with no ****.
There are pictures circulating of akiyama and he looks like hes taking his cut to 170 really seriously. He looks a bit gaunt but for the most part healthy and sexy as ever.
Does anyone know if he has any rumored opponent yet? Im really looking forward to seeing if he can do well at 170 with his judo, power, and overall sexy.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I've definitely ragged on him before but damn Mark Munoz might have the most vicious gnp in MMA. Dude just rips punches from up top. If he fights Bisping assuming Bisping beats Miller which is a big if I definitely think Munoz can beat Bisping and get a title shot. Although Leben has slow and clunky standup Munoz looks improved in standup, one major flaw is that he constantly exposes his neck and relies too heavily on his submission defense.

[nepg]

Leben was definitely better when they were standing, but he made the same error that Edwards did earlier in the night of pressing a grappler and then letting them grab him once it got to the wall.

Sucks that Leben got cut because that was going to be a war.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Leben was pretty much gassed out though and wouldnt be able to stop the takedowns and clinches. It was probably a combo of Leben not being in great shape and those brutal body shots.

[fenikz]

Let me start off with no ****.
There are pictures circulating of akiyama and he looks like hes taking his cut to 170 really seriously. He looks a bit gaunt but for the most part healthy and sexy as ever.
Does anyone know if he has any rumored opponent yet? Im really looking forward to seeing if he can do well at 170 with his judo, power, and overall sexy.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/776229/Akiyama_welterweight.jpg

[josh07039]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/776229/Akiyama_welterweight.jpg
You did what I was too lazy to do. He has abs on top of his abs.No ****.

[E-Man]

Munoz vs. Bisping/Miller would be a good one. If it's against Bisping it would be nice to see Bisping dealing with that wrestling. The dude has been really protected in his UFC career, and it's about time he fights some top guys for a change. Mayhem is a good fighter, but it's time Bisping fights the elite. Maybe he'll win, or he'll get brutally knocked silly again by the Donkey Kong ground and pound. I'd love to see that happen since I hate Bisping with a passion.

If Mayhem wins then it would be nice to see him in the UFC mix. Munoz is moving up, and he needs to stay active against solid fighters and/or contenders. I don't think that Munoz is ready for a shot, but considering Anderson has beaten pretty much everyone someone has to get the shot if he gets past Chael again and doesn't move up or retire.

[Caddy]

Munoz vs. Bisping/Miller would be a good one. If it's against Bisping it would be nice to see Bisping dealing with that wrestling. The dude has been really protected in his UFC career, and it's about time he fights some top guys for a change. Mayhem is a good fighter, but it's time Bisping fights the elite. Maybe he'll win, or he'll get brutally knocked silly again by the Donkey Kong ground and pound. I'd love to see that happen since I hate Bisping with a passion.

If Mayhem wins then it would be nice to see him in the UFC mix. Munoz is moving up, and he needs to stay active against solid fighters and/or contenders. I don't think that Munoz is ready for a shot, but considering Anderson has beaten pretty much everyone someone has to get the shot if he gets past Chael again and doesn't move up or retire.

Munoz is great, but his wrestling in the UFC has been pretty sub par so far. I think I read somewhere that his takedown percentage is only like 23%, which for a guy who is fairly rudimentary on the feet would be concerning against a striker with good takedown defense. Bisping isn't the greatest wrestler, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him avoid a Munoz takedown.

[Bosanac01]

Akiyama can't fight in the UFC, and all those muscles wear him out quickly.

He made a lot of money from Dana White, just needs to retire.

[E-Man]

Munoz is great, but his wrestling in the UFC has been pretty sub par so far. I think I read somewhere that his takedown percentage is only like 23%, which for a guy who is fairly rudimentary on the feet would be concerning against a striker with good takedown defense. Bisping isn't the greatest wrestler, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him avoid a Munoz takedown.

I think Munoz could get Bisping down eventually. His takedowns are pretty ****, but he's getting better at taking them while guys are against the fence so it's easier. I still don't get why his takedowns are so bad when he won a NCAA title.

[nepg]

Miller would tap Munoz. Munoz would have his way with Bisping. Munoz really is a mediocre fighter. His takedowns just aren't that effective. Most of his takedowns against Leben were Leben letting him take him down because he had a choke sunk in. Against Maia, Maia pretty much let him take it to the ground, too.

Munoz is sloppy. Sloppy wrestler, sloppy striker, sloppy ground game, et al. Seems like they're kind of building him up to make a title run for some reason. At which point, he'll get destroyed.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

He has elite GnP and you can't deny that.

[nepg]

He has elite GnP and you can't deny that.
Well...that kind of goes hand-in-hand with his slop.

[josh07039]

Figured Id post to keep this on the front page leading up to a nice weekend of fighting with Bellator and the big Fox show this weekend. I have absolutley no clue who is going to win this one. I would be pretty confident in Cain if not for the long layoff/shoulder surgery. I'm still going to pick him because of his wrestling and the fact that it is a five round fight. His cardio is beastly. I would not be surprised at all if JDS wins though. I love fights that could go so many different ways because of the styles and overall talent of both fighters.

[Raiderz4Life]

I got JDS in this one.

[nepg]

It's a toss up, but I'm pulling for Cigano.

[Rob S]

I feel like the fans can't lose in this one. I have no idea who is going to win and I ******* love it. All I know is that I would be proud to call either guy UFC HW champion.

[E-Man]

I got Cain winning it. JDS is very talented, and I can see him winning. Cain though has all the tools to beat JDS, and he's got the better cardio. His wrestling is also very beastly, so even if JDS is winning the standup heavily at worse Cain can go for takedowns to throw him off balance. I can see JDS stuffing Cain's takedowns while he is fresh, and getting up quickly from them. How long can he keep that up if he doesn't put Cain away early? Cain is like Jason Voorhees. You can hit his ass in the head with an ax and he'd still keep on coming after you. I think he'll wear down JDS and eventually get the win in the third, but if JDS wins I wouldn't be surprised at all. He's very gifted as well.

I'm really glad to be getting this and Pac/Marquez on the same night.

[Rosebud]

I got Cain winning it. JDS is very talented, and I can see him winning. Cain though has all the tools to beat JDS, and he's got the better cardio. His wrestling is also very beastly, so even if JDS is winning the standup heavily at worse Cain can go for takedowns to throw him off balance. I can see JDS stuffing Cain's takedowns while he is fresh, and getting up quickly from them. How long can he keep that up if he doesn't put Cain away early? Cain is like Jason Voorhees. You can hit his ass in the head with an ax and he'd still keep on coming after you. I think he'll wear down JDS and eventually get the win in the third, but if JDS wins I wouldn't be surprised at all. He's very gifted as well.

I'm really glad to be getting this and Pac/Marquez on the same night.

*shrug* JDS could win the first few rounds before Cain's able to keep him on the ground. Dude's got lightening hands.

[Raiderz4Life]

Cigano's TDD is going to be key imo. There is always a chance Cain tries to bang with him but more than likely he'll try to do the ideal thing and wrestle.

[fenikz]

JDS' conditioning is top notch doubt that's Cain's way to victory

[nepg]

Cigano's TDD is strong. We've never seen his Jitz because he never gets taken down. Should be interesting, but I really think Cigano will put Cain down before it even gets there. He's so much better as a striker. This is going to be an epic fight between the two clear-cut best HW's in the world.

Cannot wait!

[nepg]

JDS' conditioning is top notch doubt that's Cain's way to victory
I love Junior, but he has shown major signs of fatigue in his recent fights. Granted, that's mostly because he was beating the **** out of two guys that are hard to put out and Cain should require nearly as many blows as Roy Nelson or Shane Carwin, but still... He got really tired in 3 round fights.

[Rob S]

Nah, JDS' cardio is excellent. Probably not as good as Cain's, but it isn't a weakness imo.

[E-Man]

I don't know if JDS can go 5 rounds, while I'm pretty confident that Cain can. In the Kongo fight he got rocked multiple times yet still had a harder and stronger third round than any other in that fight. His pace is really insane. JDS' cardio isn't horrible like most heavyweights, but he does noticeably slow down the longer the fights go.

[Raiderz4Life]

Idk if anyone watched the prelims but...28-28 for the Aaron Rosa fight? What?

[Caddy]

I watched it. Lucas doesn't belong in the UFC.

[Raiderz4Life]

I kinda like Alex Bruce Leroy Caceres so I'll root for him

[Caddy]

Yeah I think he will get schooled, but he is usually fun to watch.

[Caddy]

LOL at Bruce Leeroy's switch kick.

[Raiderz4Life]

Yeah I think he will get schooled, but he is usually fun to watch.

Looked pretty good in the 1st and through the 2nd

Wow that was great display of ground game by Alex.

That was a really good fight by Alex...impressive.

[Caddy]

Looked pretty good in the 1st and through the 2nd

Honestly didn't think Bruce Leeroy had it in him.

[Raiderz4Life]

Honestly didn't think Bruce Leeroy had it in him.

Colour me impressed. I did not expect that...I knew the flash would be there as always but he looked really patient and threw everything at Cole keeping him off balance.

[Raiderz4Life]

Kid fought a pretty dumb fight imo. He had that really nice throw in the 1st but rly...why take it to the ground where Darren has he advantage? He should have kept it standing the whole time.

[Raiderz4Life]

Cub Swanson got WWAAYYY too comfortable at the end there. Should have had more urgency.

[fenikz]

this fight should be insane, I got Henderson by UD

[Raiderz4Life]

oooo **** what a fight haha that was great...I like both guys so its all good haha

[josh07039]

Wow. As a big time Edgar fan, I am a little worried with that amazing cardio and crazy tdd.

[fenikz]

Alright my prediction for the main event

Junior Dos Santos vs KO - 1st round

I think either way it ends in the 1st or 2nd round, Dana has probably promised both these guys a ton of bonus money if they make it exciting and finish it

[E-Man]

Man Bendo vs. Edgar is going to ******* be amazing! It'll be an early contender for 2012 Fight of the Year. Now I can't wait for Cain and JDS. This will seriously be the best heavyweight title fight since Fedor fought Cro Cop back in Pride.

[Raiderz4Life]

Man Bendo vs. Edgar is going to ******* be amazing! It'll be an early contender for 2012 Fight of the Year. Now I can't wait for Cain and JDS. This will seriously be the best heavyweight title fight since Fedor fought Cro Cop back in Pride.

Man I can't stand Edgar. I love me some Smooth though. Hope he can take that one.

I got Cigano tonight....has to be via KO. Have to believe that further it goes the better Cain's chances are to win.

[MetSox17]

Joe Rogan in HD looks about 10 years older.

[fenikz]

the black dude, dana and brock suck

[MetSox17]

Yeah i was actually expecting Brock to be a little more fluid since he's used to speaking in front of cameras, but geez, that was painful.

[Raiderz4Life]

Brock is a turd commentator. Provided nothing of value...and kept crying about a rematch...should be worrying about getting torn apart by Overeem instead.

[MetSox17]

Well, that was fun.

[TACKLE]

oh snap. 1010

[Hurricanes25]

All of that for a minute and 8 second fight.

[Raiderz4Life]

WOOOOO Cigano...**** YEAH!!!! Aww yeah hahaha

[fenikz]

2 for 2 on winners and how they would win

it's as if i got marty mcfly's sports almanac

[E-Man]

Well damn. That **** was quick. lol JDS is the man. On to Brock/Overeem.

[Complex]

They should of had a couple under cards.I didn't miss any of the Oregon/Stanford.

[MetSox17]

They should of had a couple under cards.I didn't miss any of the Oregon/Stanford.

I thought they were gonna have some of the undercard fights, then i checked the wiki and saw they were all done. The whole thing just seemed very anti-climactic.

[E-Man]

I know this was a special showcase since the Fox deal isn't fully started yet, but I figured they would at least have one more fight on the main card. Now it's just kinda like they're twiddling their thumbs because the finish happened so quick after not much action. Oh well, I'm not complaining since we got it free. Maybe next fight on Fox they'll balance it with some fights that offer a variety.

[fenikz]

plan is in the future to have 3 fights i think

[E-Man]

Dana sounds a lot like when he was commentating the Chuck/Rampage fight in Pride. You can hear the disappointment in his voice.

[Raiderz4Life]

plan is in the future to have 3 fights i think

That would be good. 3 fights is good....yea I wasn't too crazy bout the whole undercard being on FB and then just the one fight on fox.

[Complex]

Dana sounds a lot like when he was commentating the Chuck/Rampage fight in Pride. You can hear the disappointment in his voice.

At least he didn't showcase GSP on Fox unless he is fighting Penn or Diaz of course. He would of been more disappointed in a lay and pray match.

[Rob S]

At least he didn't showcase GSP on Fox unless he is fighting Penn or Diaz of course. He would of been more disappointed in a lay and pray match.

So, you're saying he won't L&P Diaz?

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Bendo/Guida should have been on the broadcast, perfect fight to introduce all aspects of MMA. Can't wait for Bendo vs Frankie. I called Bendo a future UFC champ back in his WEC days and battles with Cowboy so I'm really rooting for him even though I like Frankie. Frankie obviously has the speed and boxing advantage, but Bendo is bigger/stronger, can keep range with his kicks and IMO overall is a better grappler. Could be FOTY

[nepg]

Glad only one of the judges was fooled by Clay n' Pray.

And, no, it wasn't fight of the year. It was Clay Guida getting his ass kicked and moving around a lot ineffectively in between him getting his ass kicked.

[fenikz]

now the question is does JDS stand a chance vs Overeem?

[nepg]

now the question is does JDS stand a chance vs Overeem?
Oh yeah, definitely. Could be a great fight if Overeem can get past Lesnar.

I like Overeem, but he gets overrated as an MMA fighter because of what he's done in K1.