MMA Discussion Thread - SPOILERS!

[Rob S]

Glad only one of the judges was fooled by Clay n' Pray.

And, no, it wasn't fight of the year. It was Clay Guida getting his ass kicked and moving around a lot ineffectively in between him getting his ass kicked.

He wasn't saying this fight i foty, he said Henderson vs Edgar could be. I tend to agree.

[E-Man]

now the question is does JDS stand a chance vs Overeem?

Of course he does. Overeem has a horrible chin. He may be a better striker, but if that doesn't mean he won't get hit. He has to get past Brock anyway, and I don't see that happening.

[fenikz]

link anyone?

[raiderz4life]

In my perfect world...Wandy, Faber, and Shogun would win it. But realistically I think Cung Le will beat Wandy. I'm rooting Faber because he's one of my favorite fighters and IDK I like Hendo but I feel I like Rua a lil more.

[Hurricanes25]

link anyone?

Check your PM.

[nepg]

In my perfect world...Wandy, Faber, and Shogun would win it. But realistically I think Cung Le will beat Wandy. I'm rooting Faber because he's one of my favorite fighters and IDK I like Hendo but I feel I like Rua a lil more.
I'm pretty neutral on Hendo-Shogun, but would probably prefer Shogun to win if I had to take a side. Looking forward to watching Faber. The Cung Le-Wandy fight should be awesome. No idea how that one will go. Cung Le hasn't fought in forever and Wandy's super dangerous.

This card is going to be exciting. Looking forward to Bonnar-Kingsbury.

[raiderz4life]

Bonnar and Kingsbury was a bit disappointing.

[fenikz]

gj san jose way to look like retards

typical cali fans

[nepg]

gj san jose way to look like retards

typical cali fans
To their credit, they did let out a nice roar when Bonnar trapped Kingsbury's arm at one point. And everyone who doesn't have a giant stick up their ass laughs at 69 positions.

[FuzzyGopher]

Damn, Faber beat that ass.

[MidwayMonster31]

Faber was three steps ahead of Browles that entire fight.

[Rob S]

Faber looked absolutely fantastic. Best I have ever seen him maybe.

[fenikz]

ya that's the best i've seen him vs top competition

[nepg]

Faber beat the crap out of Charles Bronson.

[Rob S]

ya that's the best i've seen him vs top competition

He was throwing with such venom, man. Jesus. That elbow....omg.

[nepg]

Cung Le is sooooo out of shape. Hasn't fought in a year and a half. Should have the first, but he seems pretty gassed.

[Rob S]

Yeah! Vintage Wandy!

Btw, I disagree with Rogan. I'm fine with the stoppage.

[MidwayMonster31]

Le played right into Silva's hands by standing in front of him in that 2nd round. He was gassed.

[Complex]

I want to see Cung Le face.

[nepg]

Yeah! Vintage Wandy!

Btw, I disagree with Rogan. I'm fine with the stoppage.
It wasn't a good stoppage, but Cung wasn't going to come out for the 3rd. His nose was destroyed.

[Complex]

Eddie Alverez just lost like in hour ago.

BTw the ref should of waited a little bit, he stopped to early imo.

[Rob S]

Eddie Alverez just lost like in hour ago.

BTw the ref should of waited a little bit, he stopped to early imo.

The Alvarez fight was epic. Possibly foty.

[Byrd430]

How 'bout that Wanderlei KO?!

Where does he go from here? Okami? Mayhem? Bisping? I wouldn't mind seeing him against Belcher.

Personally, I think a Cung Le-Chris Leben fight is in order.

[Complex]

I want Dan Henderson to win.

also

http://s1.directupload.net/images/111120/48g83kwf.jpg

[nepg]

I don't know that Cung Le needs to be fighting anymore.

Not sure what they'll try to push next for Wandy. Okami might be a solid fight.

[FuzzyGopher]

Damn, Hendo blew his wad going for the kill. They are both gassed.

[fenikz]

this is a war, hendo up 3-0 but still entertaining as ****

[nepg]

Shogun is ****** up. This is a great fight.

[nepg]

NOW DAN IS ****** UP!

Greatest fight ever? Has to be way up there with Lil Nog-Shogun

[Complex]

This a great fight

[fenikz]

my god this everything i could of ever hoped for, neither of these fighters should be punished for losing

[FuzzyGopher]

Dan is gasssssed. Hope he doesn't get sloppy and keep his hands down.

[nepg]

Greatest fight ever. Definitely.

[fenikz]

I got a draw

Hendo got the 1st 3, Shogun 10-8 in the last round

[E-Man]

Hendo should take this. There's no way Shogun won that when round 3 was a 10-8 for sure for Hendo, and Dan clearly won the first 3 rounds.

[nepg]

I got a draw

Hendo got the 1st 3, Shogun 10-8 in the last round
I think Dan took this if it's not a draw. He had at least one 10-8 in the first 3 rounds.

I do think they should weight the rounds so that later rounds are worth more than early rounds.

[fenikz]

my god that was just amazing, even as shogun's #1 nuthugger i'm not mad, ******* incredible

[MidwayMonster31]

We know that was an amazing fight, but geez, louise, do you have to shout so ******* much, Joe?

[E-Man]

We know that was an amazing fight, but geez, louise, do you have to shout so ******* much, Joe?

Joe Rogan gets his powers from shouting. lol Dude sounds like he needs that **** to function.

[Rob S]

Best fight ever. We need to see it again. Jesus, that was awesome. Personally, I had a draw, but this is one of those fight where everyone wins. I hope Hendo KO's Bones and we get the rematch for the title.

[Rob S]

Also, not to ***** about the scoring because thats unfair on Dan. However, you're telling me not one judge gave one 10-8 round the entire ******* fight? GTFO with that. Round 5 was one of the clearest 10-8's I have ever seen and Round 3 could have easily been scored that way as well.

[Bosanac01]

I got a draw

Hendo got the 1st 3, Shogun 10-8 in the last round

This is what I had, but I wanna see Hendo fight Jones so I'm glad he won.

[nepg]

Round 5 and round 3 were both definitely 10-8's. Not sure what the judges were thinking, but they all scored it the same. Doesn't matter. The result is the same whether it's 47-46 or 48-47.

[Rob S]

Round 5 and round 3 were both definitely 10-8's. Not sure what the judges were thinking, but they all scored it the same. Doesn't matter. The result is the same whether it's 47-46 or 48-47.

I think 3 is very debatable as a 10-8 though. Personally, I had a 10-9, but would have no qualms with going 10-8. Either way, Round 5 was an obvious 10-8.....there was no other way to score it. The judges probably scored it 10-9 bc they didnt want a draw. I'm fine with it, I want to see Hendo get his crack at Jones anyway. I just feel like they shouldn't get away with terrible judging just because this was a fantastic fight.

[fenikz]

ya I entirely agree with that point, Shogun literally dominated every facet that MMA is scored on the complete round really hard not to see it as a 10-8

[Complex]

Round 3 was a 10-8 round for Hendo and round 5 was a 10-8 round for Shogun.

Round 1 and 2 was 10-9 Hendo
Round 4 was 10-9 Shogun

47-46 Hendo won imo

[Rob S]

I actually think this was a tremendously easy fight to score with the exception of round 3.

[Bosanac01]

I did not see a 10-8 in the 3rd. I believe Shogun did enough at the end to warrant a 10-9, but scoring it like this would make the fight a draw.

[Complex]

who do you guys think Henderson faces next? or did his contract have a clause that said he would get a shot at the title if he won?

[Bosanac01]

who do you guys think Henderson faces next? or did his contract have a clause that said he would get a shot at the title if he won?

He's fighting for the title bro.

[nepg]

Yeah. Whether it's 185 or 205, he's getting a title shot.

[fenikz]

Winner of Jones/Evans aka Jones

I hope they don't do Machida vs Shogun III, both deserve another shot and losing just pushes one of them further away, I'd be fine with some gimmies for both

[nepg]

Jones is fighting Machida. Hendo would get Jones before Evans, too. Rashad is no where near being able to start training again yet.

They could do Shogun-Rampage. Hell, I'd stick that on the next Fox event.

[fenikz]

bah that's what i ment, Shogun vs Rampage would be perfect, realistically Rampage only has a punchers chance but it's almost guaranteed to be a exciting fight/finish

[nepg]

bah that's what i ment, Shogun vs Rampage would be perfect, realistically Rampage only has a punchers chance but it's almost guaranteed to be a exciting fight/finish
Disagree with the punchers chance bit. It could be just as much, possibly even more of a war than what we saw last night.

[Rob S]

Disagree with the punchers chance bit. It could be just as much, possibly even more of a war than what we saw last night.

Shogun destroyed him the 1st time and I honestly don't see anything changing that.

[nepg]

That was almost 7 years ago.

[Bosanac01]

That was almost 7 years ago.

Some things never change.

[nepg]

A lot of things have changed with both of them.

[Bosanac01]

Im talking in the sense that Shogun is still better and will again beat the crap out of him.

[raiderz4life]

I just saw the 3 main fights of the card.

1. Edit: Due to a technicality aka believing my stupid friend...I believed Wandy lost....nvm...I'm very happy now.

2. My boy Urijah!! Was a great fight for him.

3. OMG!!! What a fight. Classic....wow....it was...just wow..Hendo vs Hua was amazing. ahaha

Also yea, Rampage would get owned by Rua. He has a puncher's chance but Rua is just better. Would make a good fight though.

[nepg]

Wandy won....

[raiderz4life]

Wandy won....

Did he?? My friend told me he lost so I didn't even bother watching the fight cuz I didn't wanna see him get KOed again....wtf. Last time I trust his stupid ass -_-

[nepg]

Cung dropped him in the first, but was too out if shape and slow to finish the fight. Wandy ****** him up pretty bad.

[Rob S]

A lot of things have changed with both of them.

Well, what specifically makes you think Page has a chance? I honestly don't see him having anything more than a punchers chance. Maybe you could say Shogun's cardio, but thats the only thing I can think of.

[josh07039]

Well, what specifically makes you think Page has a chance? I honestly don't see him having anything more than a punchers chance. Maybe you could say Shogun's cardio, but thats the only thing I can think of.I dont think that Rampage has diminished from their first fight as much as Shogun. With all the knee surgeries and such, Shogun is not the rampaging berzerker that he once was. Granted, Rampage lacks some of the explosiveness he used to have, but I think he has much more a chance than you may think. Rampage is a pretty technical boxer for mma these days and he would probably be motivated to fight shogun so he would be in good shape. I think that would be a good fight that Rampage could win.

[fenikz]

if the odds were anything under 2:1 id be betting on Shogun, Rampage has been overrated for awhile now

[Ravens1991]

SEeing all this talk makes me miss being able to watch MMA events at school

[E-Man]

I dont think that Rampage has diminished from their first fight as much as Shogun. With all the knee surgeries and such, Shogun is not the rampaging berzerker that he once was. Granted, Rampage lacks some of the explosiveness he used to have, but I think he has much more a chance than you may think. Rampage is a pretty technical boxer for mma these days and he would probably be motivated to fight shogun so he would be in good shape. I think that would be a good fight that Rampage could win.

If Rampage mixed up his offense on the feet I'd be inclined to favor him over Shogun, but he's so damn predictable now. You just know he's going to go for landing that big hook. It's his best punch, but it's now become his only punch. I wish he'd throw more combos and mix in some takedowns. He's got good ground and pound that he never uses, and he's become eager to look for the knockout instead of gameplanning. He still barely defends kicks, so Shogun could just kick all night long without having to worry about being taken down. It could be a good brawl though. I could see it going like Shogun/Hendo if Shogun doesn't use his kicks to his advantage.

[McGahee]

Is there not a new TUF episode tonight?

[josh07039]

If Rampage mixed up his offense on the feet I'd be inclined to favor him over Shogun, but he's so damn predictable now. You just know he's going to go for landing that big hook. It's his best punch, but it's now become his only punch. I wish he'd throw more combos and mix in some takedowns. He's got good ground and pound that he never uses, and he's become eager to look for the knockout instead of gameplanning. He still barely defends kicks, so Shogun could just kick all night long without having to worry about being taken down. It could be a good brawl though. I could see it going like Shogun/Hendo if Shogun doesn't use his kicks to his advantage.I agree with you that Shogun would probably beat him because of his lack of any fight IQ of any kind. Shogun could agressively chop down his legs and take away his power. However, I could also see Rampage pushing foward agressively and cutting off the cage and winning a decision with his boxing. Also keep in mind, a fight like the one he had with Hendo could change the way he handles punishment. Guys change after brutal beatings like the one Shogun took.

[nepg]

Is there not a new TUF episode tonight?
**** Rambo. I'm pissed.

[raiderz4life]

If Rampage mixed up his offense on the feet I'd be inclined to favor him over Shogun, but he's so damn predictable now. You just know he's going to go for landing that big hook. It's his best punch, but it's now become his only punch. I wish he'd throw more combos and mix in some takedowns. He's got good ground and pound that he never uses, and he's become eager to look for the knockout instead of gameplanning. He still barely defends kicks, so Shogun could just kick all night long without having to worry about being taken down. It could be a good brawl though. I could see it going like Shogun/Hendo if Shogun doesn't use his kicks to his advantage.

Idk...I think Shogun's showed he can take abuse and still come back OK...he went through some wars back in the Pride Fc days

[Caddy]

Next epi is on the 30th, a few days before the finale.

[raiderz4life]

Just in case anyone is interested...MMA Warehouse is having a sale on Hayabusa gear. Picked some stuff up myself.

[fenikz]

shogun would just press him against the cage, knee his legs and dirty box him, rampage has never figured out how to defend the clinch

[E-Man]

Idk...I think Shogun's showed he can take abuse and still come back OK...he went through some wars back in the Pride Fc days

Oh yeah, Shogun is durable as hell. A lot of guys would have died against Jones and Hendo if they took those beatings.

[nepg]

Rampage is fighting Bader in Japan (144). Lame.

So many amazing fights in December...

Masvidal-Melendez
Gegard Mousasi-OSP
Lyoto-Jones
Mir-Big Nog
Korean Zombie-Hominick
Lesnar-Overeem
Cerrone-Diaz

And, ****, the TUF Finale fights could be really good, too.

[fenikz]

Fox 2 announced, Rashad Evans vs Phil Davis. I'm going out on a limb and saying this is the fight that sets off Davis' rise to championship contender

[nepg]

Meh. He's a one-trick pony and all of the other contenders in the division are also very good at the one thing he can do.

Rumor that Sonnen-Munoz will be the co-main.

[fenikz]

only person who can match him physically is Jones though

[raiderz4life]

His striking is pretty poor...real robotic and clunky

[Rob S]

Fox 2 announced, Rashad Evans vs Phil Davis. I'm going out on a limb and saying this is the fight that sets off Davis' rise to championship contender

I would go out on that limb with you. Rashad just hasn't fought very much lately and I could see Davis overwhelming him with athleticism and size. I could also easily see a crushing KO for Rashad, but thats why it's called going out on a limb...

[E-Man]

I really want to see Bisping beat tomorrow night, but I think he'll pull out the win and talks massive amounts of **** after it. I could see how Mayhem could win it if he gets a chance to work his grappling, but I think Bisping will try to move in and out of range to keep from getting taken down.

Dodson and Dilishaw should be a good one. Both guys are good at grappling and striking, but I think Dodson takes it because he has better striking. He's pretty damn good at tagging guys before they know what hit them. T.J. is a lot better than I thought though. He's got some nice power from what I've seen, and he's a good wrestler that can possibly tire out Dodson a bit.

Diego has holes for days, but he's got some nice power. I think his cardio and reckless striking is going to be a problem before you know it, but I doubt Bermudez is the guy to beat him. Bermudez didn't really show good enough striking, and his takedowns aren't all that either. He's got a nice chin, but it sticks in the air too much. I think he's going to get brutally knocked out.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

only person who can match him physically is Jones though

Why do people think Davis is so athletic? IMO unlike Bones, Davis does not impress me as an athlete. Yeah he's built like TO and looks uber athletic but i dont see it. His takedowns are not explosive and his standup is slow and clunky. Against lil Nog and Gustaffson he didn't look any more athletic than them. IMO looks can be deceiving but maybe thats just me. IMO Rashad will tear Davis apart. Rashad for the most part will stuff the takedowns and just has superior boxing.

[ccB]

Why do people think Davis is so athletic? IMO unlike Bones, Davis does not impress me as an athlete. Yeah he's built like TO and looks uber athletic but i dont see it. His takedowns are not explosive and his standup is slow and clunky. Against lil Nog and Gustaffson he didn't look any more athletic than them. IMO looks can be deceiving but maybe thats just me. IMO Rashad will tear Davis apart. Rashad for the most part will stuff the takedowns and just has superior boxing.

Because you don't dominate the NCAA D1 wrestling ranks unless you are a freak athlete. Just look at the guy, he's built like a freak, long arms, broad shoulders, very strong base on the ground. He's got an explosive first step,and his scrambles and sweeps on the ground are fast as ****. He's clearly an elite level athlete.

I really think you are mistaken "slow and clunkiness" with hesitance against Nog because Nog has really clean boxing, and he's an elite level BJJ guy on the ground, so not only did he have to worry about getting caught going for a takedown, he also had to worry about gettin subbed once on the ground. Also, it was pretty apparent Davis was going to come out and try and take Nog down, so let's give Rogerio a little credit in the preparation and takedown defense departments, the guy is a high level fighter. Not to mention the Nogueria fight was not only a big step up in competition from Tim Boetsch, but he stepped in on short notice, and still UD'ed a top 10 205 fighter in his 8th pro fight.

and He beat Gustaffson in one round with a sick finish, so I'm not sure what wasn't impressive about that?

and to whoever said he's a one trick pony must not of seen the beautiful anaconda choke he pulled out on Gustaffson, the dude is dangerous as **** on the ground and it's pretty impressive seeing as he's got pretty limited BJJ experience.


The dude really needs to tighten up his striking but other than that, I don't see what more you'd expect out of a guy who's only been training since 08, is already in the UFC, and is one fight away from a title shot. Is he Jon Jones? NO! Is he a fair opponent for, and one of the only guys who can match Jones physically in the UFC? YES!

[raiderz4life]

I don't see it with Davis either. That striking is going to get him killed against Jones and I can't really say how Rashad will look, guy's been stitched back together way too many times. But if his takedowns can be stuffed he's in real trouble. Guys like Jones, Lyoto, and old Rashad woud give him fits imo.

Should be a good fight though, will be interesting to see how much he's improved. I'll be rooting for him vs Rashad.

[nepg]

These fights have been awesome. Bermudez-Brandao might be the best 1-round fight I've ever seen.

[MetSox17]

Bisping completely destroyed and picked Mayhem apart.

[raiderz4life]

Boooo what a *****....gtdamn it Mayhem...Bisping is such a douche.

[FuzzyGopher]

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9021/mayhemp.jpg

Someone, somewhere, has a sad right about now.

[fenikz]

I wanted to parlay Brandao & Dodson but I didn't :(

[nepg]

I wanted to parlay Brandao & Dodson but I didn't :(
Dodson was an easy bet, but Bermudez-Brandao was way too close on paper to bet on.

[fenikz]

ya thats why i wanted to parlay it with something

[Bosanac01]

where do you guys bet?

[Complex]

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9021/mayhemp.jpg

Someone, somewhere, has a sad right about now.

Sherdog? (10)

[nepg]

ya thats why i wanted to parlay it with something
Bedford was also a safe bet. As was Tony Fernandez because you know they wouldn't let a TUF fighter lose at a TUF event.

[FuzzyGopher]

Sherdog? (10)

Of course.

[E-Man]

LMAO @ the guy who lost $7,000 on Mayhem.

[H.O.O.D]

Cruz/Faber confirmed for TUF 15 as coaches. Should be a good one.

[nepg]

Cruz/Faber confirmed for TUF 15 as coaches. Should be a good one.
Eh... I hate when they tie up a belt with TUF. It's 155 & 170 yet again... Getting old.

[Caddy]

I want to see some more fat, overweight heavys!

[MetSox17]

The heavyweight TUF was super lame. Everyone had piss poor conditioning.

[Caddy]

How about a Flyweight + Super Heavyweight season. Don't tell me you don't want to see Bob Sapp in the TuF house!

[nepg]

Flyweight would be great. Honestly, I'd rather have another season of BW and FW, though.

Obviously, there's just more fighters at LW and WW than any other division...but it gets old.

[H.O.O.D]

Yeah another season of BW & FW would be great to create more depth...and much like this season some of those guys would be looking to drop down to Flyweight once they are ready to launch that division.

I love the coaching matchup this season, and while the title is tied up lets not forget Cruz had surgery on his hand that wouldn't allow him to begin another camp until this spring anyhow.

I do however wish this was a LHW and HW season.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

LW+LWH IMO is the best combination, plus they have the best depth of talent. MW+HW seasons are lame.

[Complex]

GSP out for 10 months torn ACL

Condit vs Diaz now

[E-Man]

I'm glad to see TUF get some coaches who need the spotlight a bit. The lighter weight classes always bring the thunder, but it's time they made Cruz a big star, or in Faber's case an even bigger star, with TUF.

I hate hearing about GSP though. All these injury setbacks can't be good. It's a good thing he is still pretty young. It's weird to see the most dominant fighters in MMA history, Anderson and GSP, out for a while like this.

[raiderz4life]

Anyone know where I can get the rest of the undercard? I was watching the prelims on FB and they're done.

[nepg]

Anyone know where I can get the rest of the undercard? I was watching the prelims on FB and they're done.
Sometimes Spike.

[E-Man]

The prelims are now on Ion. If you have Dish in the States the channel number is 216.

[raiderz4life]

ugh I'm at work

nvm I got a link to work

[djp]

+rep for link

[raiderz4life]

Baby CroCop FTW!!!!

[Cudders]

I’m a big-time Bones supporter, but this fight worries me more than most. I actually think this is his most difficult stylistic match-up in the UFC because Lyoto Machida brings a lot of tools to the Octagon that he can use against Jones. He’s an unpredictable fighter first and foremost. He sets up in unorthodox stances, counters from odd angles with flawless technique, doesn’t telegraph his strikes, and doesn’t fall into a pattern with his footwork or head movement. He’s incredibly evasive. Machida is going to be the hardest fighter Jones has ever had to hit or cut the cage off from. And, if Jones secures the clinch, Machida has a unique sumo background that he’s shown to be effective for takedown defense. On the feet, I expect Machida to pepper Bones’ base with leg kicks quite often once he settles into a rhythm. Physically, that’s Jones’ most exploitable attribute. That’s where Machida’s karate can shine. Unlike a traditional Muay Thai fighter, Machida fires off his leg kicks much quicker. He snaps it out there without much planting or warning. It’s not as powerful of a strike, but it’s much harder to check or grab a hold of. In this fight, that trumps attempting to land a series of thunderous kicks and getting dumped on your bottom. Damage will accumulate with enough well-placed shots regardless. If Machida can deaden those thin legs and neutralize some of that supreme explosiveness, he’s got the advantage in terms of experience and expertise.

That said, Jones should still be the favorite in this fight because he’s the total package. He is capable of overwhelming Machida with his breathtaking blend of size, length, speed, and power. Bones is a rare specimen and it’s impossible for a sparring partner to accurately mimic him in training camp. Even though he’s progressed rapidly in the striking department, I wouldn’t advise frequently trading with Lyoto. Machida is one of the most polished and practiced pointfighters in the UFC. Personally, I’d opt to grind this fight out and play to your strengths. Utilize the athleticism and reach to close the distance in a hurry and then work him against the walls. Rinse and repeat. To me, this is as much a test of Bones’ discipline as it is a test of his skills.

Should be a good one.

[Rob S]

In before the glut of requests....

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/97217/1/watch-ufc-140-:-jones-vs-machida.html

[raiderz4life]

I totally agree with Cudders. Have been saying it since before the match up was made. Lyoto matches up just about as good as anyone with Bones. I love me some Bones but this fight is gonna be a tough one.

It'll either be a really good FOY candidate or be over real quick imo. Don't think it'll be a boring fight, not with Jon Jones involved.

[FuzzyGopher]

I think Jones walks through him, I've never been overly impressed with Machida.

[FuzzyGopher]

Ha, went for the quick punch after the fist bump and he paid the price.

[Rob S]

Korean Zombie. YEAH!!!

[MetSox17]

Holy **** Zombie

[LTgiants]

What is the record for fastest knockout again?

[raiderz4life]

WOW haha

Homenick just got wrecked by Korean Zombie ahaha

[FuzzyGopher]

What is the record for fastest knockout again?

I'm pretty sure it's 7 seconds.

[fenikz]

lol WAR ZOMBIE

gotta love the guy

[LTgiants]

I'm pretty sure it's 7 seconds.

Ya he just tied it. Todd Duffey held it.

[raiderz4life]

I'm pretty sure it's 7 seconds.

They just said he tied it at 7 seconds so yea

[Rob S]

He tied Todd Duffee for fastest KO

[FuzzyGopher]

I'm so pissed Todd Duffee was cut, that guy was such a boss.

[raiderz4life]

ye...idk...I'd say I have it 2-1 Eversole

[josh07039]

I really hope Rogerio has learned how to defend a single leg because I really don't want tito to keep fighting and wasting all our time with nonsense.

[raiderz4life]

I hope Lil Nog blasts Tito to kingdom come

[Rob S]

Rogerio really should win this. The loser of this should not be in the UFC.

[MetSox17]

I'm gonna be rooting hard for Tito here.

[raiderz4life]

Am I the only one who feels the whole fighters talking about the fight and stuff should maybe be saved for the co and main event or just the main event?

Like most the time I don't mind it but sometimes it feels like it makes the show drag.

[Rob S]

I'm gonna be rooting hard for Tito here.

Damn Mexicans! You probably rooted for Margarito too.

[Rob S]

Am I the only one who feels the whole fighters talking about the fight and stuff should maybe be saved for the co and main event or just the main event?

Like most the time I don't mind it but sometimes it feels like it makes the show drag.

The opening fight lasting 7 seconds didn't help lol

[MetSox17]

Damn Mexicans! You probably rooted for Margarito too.

Of course lol. We're taught to automatically root for our people! haha

[FuzzyGopher]

Tito's head has to weigh at least 45 pounds easy.

[Rob S]

That was great groundwork by Nog. He may have a broken rib. Tito needs to hang em up.

[MetSox17]

Man, he took like four right hands flush to the ribs right there. RIP Tito.

[fenikz]

who cares about the ribs he will be pissing blood for a couple days from all the kidney shots

[FuzzyGopher]

Nog looks like he's ******* 60, but damn, he was dropping body shots of doom.

[FuzzyGopher]

That was ******* crazy. I thought Mir was done.

[josh07039]

Oh Dear God.....mir. What The ****. Hes The Man. I Love That Cocky Asshole.

[LTgiants]

Nothing like seeing someone get their arm broken in HD lol.

[MetSox17]

RIP Noguiera's arm. That **** is way broken.

[Complex]

Damn that hurt.....

I thought Big Nog then he breaks arm.

[FuzzyGopher]

That gif will be a HOFer in no time.

[fenikz]

how about no please :/

bad enough having to watch it on replays over and over like Corey Hill's leg

[josh07039]

I have lurked on sherdog a little just to hear crazy opinions. A lot of morons on that site have said that mirs grappling is overrated and he hasnt subbed anyone worth it. I think its hard to argue with his grappling now. Id actually like to see Mir against Cain. I think that the only way we know if Mir is worth anything is for him to go through a guy of Cains caliber. I think Cain would rightfull be favored but mir would have several avenues to victory as well.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

damn i think Mir was actually out for a little, but sick bjj, his mix of technique and strength as a heavy=deadly bjj. I think Nog was already tapping though before the final yank upwards to break his arm.

[E-Man]

What makes that such a great win is how so many Pride fanboys talked massive **** about Mir before and after the first fight. First it was that Mir's BJJ was nowhere near Nog's level, then it was that Mir got lucky. Now it'll be something completely different. lol

[Rob S]

I have lurked on sherdog a little just to hear crazy opinions. A lot of morons on that site have said that mirs grappling is overrated and he hasnt subbed anyone worth it. I think its hard to argue with his grappling now. Id actually like to see Mir against Cain. I think that the only way we know if Mir is worth anything is for him to go through a guy of Cains caliber. I think Cain would rightfull be favored but mir would have several avenues to victory as well.

That's fine with me. Mir will absolutely get wrecked unless Cain has turned *****, but he deserves a step up fight. Cain would be absolutely perfect....Mir gets the big fight he feels he deserves (and kind of does I guess) and Cain gets a good bounceback win that should be relatively easy imo.

[Complex]

I have lurked on sherdog a little just to hear crazy opinions. A lot of morons on that site have said that mirs grappling is overrated and he hasnt subbed anyone worth it. I think its hard to argue with his grappling now. Id actually like to see Mir against Cain. I think that the only way we know if Mir is worth anything is for him to go through a guy of Cains caliber. I think Cain would rightfull be favored but mir would have several avenues to victory as well.

I never post on sherdog UFC discussion section they are so stupid.

[FuzzyGopher]

This whole card has been amazing so far.

[Rob S]

I never post on sherdog UFC discussion section they are so stupid.

Yup. Diet and Supplement and Strength & Power sections are great though. So many knowledgable guys there.

[Rob S]

This whole card has been amazing so far.

The main card? Really? It has been alright, but aside from the Nog-Mir groundwork I don't think anything has been particularly great. Zombie KO was cool because it was so quick, but it wasn't HL reel quality. Nog beating up on Tito was pretty cool because it was Tito, but you see that type of G&P at least once on every PPV card. Idk.

[josh07039]

That's fine with me. Mir will absolutely get wrecked unless Cain has turned *****, but he deserves a step up fight. Cain would be absolutely perfect....Mir gets the big fight he feels he deserves (and kind of does I guess) and Cain gets a good bounceback win that should be relatively easy imo.The thing is that while it is conceivable that Cain could use his crazy cardio and wrestling to win, he has shown that he can be knocked out by JDS and stunned easily by Kongo. Mir has much more ability to finish when someone is stunned than Kongo in that he can jump on a guillotine as he did against kongo, etc. Mir could also submit cain on the ground. We don't even know if Cain is prone to submissions or being swept because he hasnt gone up against a guy of mirs caliber. Most likely though, Mir shows a weak chin or just gets pounded on the ground.

[FuzzyGopher]

The main card? Really? It has been alright, but aside from the Nog-Mir groundwork I don't think anything has been particularly great. Zombie KO was cool because it was so quick, but it wasn't HL reel quality. Nog beating up on Tito was pretty cool because it was Titio, but you see that type of G&P at least once on every PPV card. Idk.

Prelims had 3 finishes too, I dunno, it's just been really entertaining for some reason. Not a lot of technical battles but a lot of crazy knockouts and subs.

[Rob S]

The thing is that while it is conceivable that Cain could use his crazy cardio and wrestling to win, he has shown that he can be knocked out by JDS and stunned easily by Kongo. Mir has much more ability to finish when someone is stunned than Kongo in that he can jump on a guillotine as he did against kongo, etc. Mir could also submit cain on the ground. We don't even know if Cain is prone to submissions or being swept because he hasnt gone up against a guy of mirs caliber. Most likely though, Mir shows a weak chin or just gets pounded on the ground.

I get what you're saying.....it's somewhat interesting. I just don't think Mir is all that great quite honestly.

[Rob S]

Prelims had 3 finishes too, I dunno, it's just been really entertaining for some reason. Not a lot of technical battles but a lot of crazy knockouts and subs.

I didn't watch prelims, so idk about those. I love finishes as much as the next guy, but I like my fight to last more than 5 minutes sometimes too haha.

[Rob S]

Stylezzz make fightzzz

[Rob S]

Good call on the TD by Bones. He needed that.

[LTgiants]

One word to describe that choke: Nasty.

[raiderz4life]

wow...wtf just happened lol didn't even see that guillotine

[josh07039]

That was a fun fight in general and I didnt doubt his toughness, but he definitley showed that he has room to improve and also that he is dominant in every part of the game and can finish in a number of ways. Who beats him?

[E-Man]

Jon Jones haters are going to have some serious health problems hating on the dude. What a helluva finish!

[Rob S]

That was a fun fight in general and I didnt doubt his toughness, but he definitley showed that he has room to improve and also that he is dominant in every part of the game and can finish in a number of ways. Who beats him?

Hendo is an obvious answer, but Phil Davis might have the best chance imo.

[Complex]

No one can beat him.

Edit: No one in the UFC right now.

[FuzzyGopher]

I wonder if Ebersole still thinks the guillotine is a myth.

[raiderz4life]

Phil Davis might have the best chance.

sorry but no I don't see it. Davis is raw as hell and will be a while til he can give Jones a decent fight. Jones would wreck him right now.

[fenikz]

he is so good, he entered the UFC as a freak but now he is extremely technical and you can see the vast improvements he makes from fight to fight

[raiderz4life]

I wonder if Ebersole still thinks the guillotine is a myth.

It is a myth...Jon Jones is just a mythological creature...

[Rob S]

sorry but no I don't see it. Davis is raw as hell and will be a while til he can give Jones a decent fight. Jones would wreck him right now.

Probably, yeah. Davis can match him athletically though and maybe can grind out a decision on the ground. Bones probably gets him out of there inside of the first 5 though. Hendo also has a chance with that right hand.

[E-Man]

I like Phil, but he's a bit too hesitant on the feet. I think Rashad's the best chance because his takedowns are lightning fast. We'll see if he gets past Phil Davis next month. People will say Hendo, but Hendo would get hurt really badly. I like him and all, but Jones would slaughter him.

[raiderz4life]

Phil really needs to smoothen out that striking. Its pretty painful to watch sometimes.

Hendo's only shot is to land that right hand of his and hope for the KO.

Rashad...idk...who knows how good he'll be after so many injuries.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

If Bones F's around and tries to strike with Hendo he likely will get Ko'ed, but he beats hendo easy if he grapples, Hendo obviously is a good grappler in his own right and has the credentials but he can't stop Bones from taking him down and finishing him, if he couldn't stop Sheilds, no chance against Bones. But yeah one H Bomb and Bones would be asleep. IMO Hendo has the best chance. Maybe Gustaffson in the future if he works on his takedown D.

[mqtirishfan]

Jon Jones is so good.

[FuzzyGopher]

Phil is just a wrestler. Jones can strike, wrestle and he has good jits.

[Complex]

Sherdog is blowing up right now, can't wait for Machida, Rampage, whoever else never had a chance, the real answer to stopping Jones is this *insert name* thread.

[fenikz]

Outside of Henderson's right fist I think Shogun is the only person who might beat Jones and that would be like 1 out of 50 fights

[E-Man]

Sherdog is blowing up right now, can't wait for Machida, Rampage, whoever else never had a chance, the real answer to stopping Jones is this *insert name* thread.

He's so good so fast that he already has that Anderson hate on him. People will talk up whoever he fights until he beats them, and then they instantly become a can who isn't as good as Bones' next opponent. lol

[Rob S]

Nobody is saying Phil Davis would beat Jon Jones. With Jones right now though, it's a matter of who poses some sort of threat. Phil Davis, provided he beats Rashad, does that. He is the only guy that matches up athletically and is the best wrestler at 205. He probably gets blasted, so what? Everyone else probably gets blasted too.

[josh07039]

If Jones struck with Anderson for as long as he did with Machida, Anderson would have ended him. That comes from a guy who somewhat likes Jones and hates Anderson. I could actually see a scenario where that fight happens no matter how small the chance. I seriously doubt it but if Chael get past Munoz and then Silva and Chael fight and Chael dominates him like the first fight but without the sub or he finishes him, Anderson may just not want to go through with fighting such an asshole again who has his number and go up to try his luck at getting the taste out of his mouth with a few highlights before retiring. Very doubtful, but not an impossible scenario like some other superfights people throw out.

[FuzzyGopher]

Rumors floating around that Overeem is out of the Lesnar fight.

[Complex]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/corzy666/jones.gif

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ojdIBmQf3ms/TuQmJfBdnwI/AAAAAAAAGrg/QN2zG4PF6-8/s1600/2.gif

[nepg]

I really hate elbows in MMA. They really need to do something about them. Whether it's forcing fighters to wear some sort of padding on their elbows or something else.

[E-Man]

What's so bad about elbows? I know some people have this idea that they only cause cuts that end fights, but hardly any fights have been stopped due to cuts from elbows. I'm all for as many tools as possible. Elbows are great for giving guys on top something extra to use. Knees would be great too.

[Rob S]

I'm okay with elbows, knees, and kicks and think all should be legal.

[nepg]

What's so bad about elbows? I know some people have this idea that they only cause cuts that end fights, but hardly any fights have been stopped due to cuts from elbows. I'm all for as many tools as possible. Elbows are great for giving guys on top something extra to use. Knees would be great too.
Not every fighter who uses elbows causes cuts, but bony dudes like Florian and Jones cause cuts any time they connect with an elbow. Often, it's just a glancing blow that doesn't do anything to the person receiving the elbow other the opening up a (nasty) cut. I think the Unified Rules committee should always be working to curb maneuvers that cause instantaneous damage without actually "hurting" the recipient.

Knees and kicks are defensible and they don't just cause cuts like most elbows do. The defense for elbows is moving your head. If the guy barely misses, he opens up a gash on your head. That's ******, imo.

I've taken a pretty hard stance on this one. I've been anti-elbows for awhile. Right now, I have to say I just don't want them to be legal because I can't think of a good way to reduce the cuts. I'd be happy if they simply started with DQ's/NC's for guys who blatantly rub their forearm/elbow against a guy's head. That's about the dirtiest thing you can do.

[E-Man]

I'm pretty sure elbows hurt like hell instead of just causing superficial damage. Tito in his prime used elbow very well. Jones right now is probably the best at using them. Just look at how he broke the faces of Brandon Vera and Matt Hamill. There is no way I'd want him robbed of his best weapon.

Also, look at how Diego Sanchez used elbows against Clay Guida off his back. It was a helluva weapon that probably won him the fight even though he wasn't on top. The judges actually took note of that for once.

[raiderz4life]

Jake Hecht had a real nice win using the elbows

[Rosebud]

I wish Lyoto and Anderson weren't such close friends. Lyoto just doesn't have the power to stop guys without connecting on a few really good blows, at 185 he wouldn't be out powered by all of the top guys and his BJJ wouldn't be a big problem in that division either. Plus I've just always been curious to see Anderson and Lyoto light each other up. Maybe we get Spider to sleep with Lyoto's wife? He's just such a fun fighter to watch.

I'm happy for Bones, dudes a beast, JDS v Bones is going to be an amazing fight one day.

[Rob S]

I wish Lyoto and Anderson weren't such close friends. Lyoto just doesn't have the power to stop guys without connecting on a few really good blows, at 185 he wouldn't be out powered by all of the top guys and his BJJ wouldn't be a big problem in that division either. Plus I've just always been curious to see Anderson and Lyoto light each other up. Maybe we get Spider to sleep with Lyoto's wife? He's just such a fun fighter to watch.

I'm happy for Bones, dudes a beast, JDS v Bones is going to be an amazing fight one day.

JDS by utter destruction. Knocks him out twitching.

[nepg]

Yeah, I don't see Bones ever going up to HW. He loses his advantages there. Also, his striking is sloppy and he really does get by from length alone when he's standing. We saw that in the Machida fight. Sharp fighters can tag Jones pretty easily, and he doesn't respond well to getting hit.

[FuzzyGopher]

Jones is big but I'm not sure he is thick enough to be able to carry the 40-45lbs of extra weight he would need to hang with the big guys like Brock and The Reem. His length and speed are his biggest asset, having a reach like that allows him to keep his distance and make guys hesitate on storming in on him.

The thing that has impressed me the most about him is his Jiu Jitsu, he's only been fighting MMA for a little over 3 years and he has shown the ability to sub some pretty legit fighters. He's so young and so good it's scary to think about how good he will be a few years down the road if he continues to develop. He's just been running through people and yet he's barely scratched the surface of what he's capable of.

I know a lot of people are already sick of him and probably think I'm nut hugging but I don't really see any prospects that are capable of giving him serious problems at the moment. The best chance of beating him is either launching a bomb and hoping it connects or getting inside the pocket where he can't use his reach advantage and hope to land some punches.

[nepg]

People always try to say a guy should move up when he is dominating a division... GSP, Ando, BJ, Torres, Aldo... Or move down in Fedor's case when there was no one in the HW division... Why should they? BJ did it and now LW is super deep and his career is ruined.

[phlysac]

Nog's X-ray

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/2442917/big_nog_broken_arm_medium_large.jpg

[Rosebud]

People always try to say a guy should move up when he is dominating a division... GSP, Ando, BJ, Torres, Aldo... Or move down in Fedor's case when there was no one in the HW division... Why should they? BJ did it and now LW is super deep and his career is ruined.

In Bones' case I just think he's going to keep getting bigger until cutting to 205 starts to become too exhausting, add to that domination of his division for some years and I think we'll see him fighting at HW later in his career, which could prove incredibly long, especially if the Machida fight gets him to focus more on his striking so that he can avoid the repeated shots to the dome that end up breaking Iron Chin'd fighters like Chuck, Nog and Wanderlei.

JDS by utter destruction. Knocks him out twitching.

One day. Jones's ground game is still improving, his striking has a ton of room to grow and he'll get bigger.

[Caddy]

I don't really understand why he needs to get bigger? Couldn't he just maintain the strength/conditioning program he is currently on and stay the same/similar size?

[nepg]

I don't really understand why he needs to get bigger? Couldn't he just maintain the strength/conditioning program he is currently on and stay the same/similar size?

Yeah, I don't get that, either. He's lanky as hell. He's not likely to go to HW. He loses any advantage he has as a LHW.

He's 24. It's not like he's 19-21... He's done growing. He might get a little bigger, but he'll mostly just get better at cutting to 205 from a bigger weight.

[Rob S]

If Jon Jones ever goes up to HW and fights elite opposition he gets knocked cold. That's just my opinion, but I feel pretty strongly about it.

[josh07039]

If Jon Jones ever goes up to HW and fights elite opposition he gets knocked cold. That's just my opinion, but I feel pretty strongly about it.I do not understand the talk about him eventually moving up to heavyweight. His legs are so skinny, even Rogan who has a huge man crush on him acknowledges how comical they are. His body frame just doesn't have that broad, heavweight look to it. I remember when Frank Mir talked about going to lhw because he saw how forrest would get to like 240 between fights, but clearly a 240 frank mir and a 240 forrest griffin do not look the same. I think the same is true with Jones. Look Ive heard people say that Jones gets to 230ish as evidence that Jones should move up, but I think the notion is ludicrous. Jones doesn't seem to have problems cutting weight and the fact is, even if he does in the future, I cant imagine him ever having the strength to go up against a guy like Lesnar, Carwin, Mir, even a smaller heavy like JDS is just built differently.

[jayceheathman]

Lesnar is going to beat Overeem.

[raiderz4life]

Lesnar is going to beat Overeem.

Doubt it. I got Overeem winning this one.

[E-Man]

I got Lesnar early in this one. His wrestling should prove to be the difference here, and even if Overeem stops some of his takedowns he'll be tired as hell if he doesn't put Brock away early. I think Lesnar manhandles him and ground and pounds him pretty badly in the first.

[FuzzyGopher]

If Brock can get the takedowns and avoid a fist fight he should be OK. If he can't get Ubereem to the ground he is pretty much ******, his striking is beyond pathetic. I don't think Brock should have a problem effectively utilizing his wrestling but he hasn't fought in about 14 months so ring rust could be a factor. I'm not too excited about the rest of the card but there are some pretty decent match-ups.

[nepg]

I am so hyped for tonight. I want Lesnar to win, but he has so many obstacles to overcome in this fight. Rust, health, cardio, elite striker, lack of size advantage... I'm not even going to make a prediction.

Lots of other good fights, too. Diaz-Cerrone should be amazing. Janitor-Mauler should have an exciting finish (Gustaffson has only had one decision in his career). And we'll all get a chance to order pizza and make a beer run during the Fitch-Hendricks infomercial.

I think the Facebook card is better than the Main card. Nunes-Gamburyan is a high level fight that could be a co-main if more people were familiar with the FW's. I always love watching Matt Riddle and he's fighting another exciting guy in Luis Ramos - that's my predicted FotN. And we have the return of Efrain Escudero, which should be fun.

[E-Man]

Diaz vs. Cerrone is going to be good. So much **** talking between guys who usually go after it during fights. I think Cerrone takes a decision, but I wouldn't be surprised if he lost unless he just gets owned in one punch Mark Hominick/KZ style.

[Punisher]

Links tonight for the fight? Pinching pennies this weekend!

[nepg]

Links tonight for the fight? Pinching pennies this weekend!

I thought this said punching penises...

Wow.

[nepg]

I always check here:
http://www.mmashareforum.com/serious-mma-videos-f35/ufc-141-lesnar-vs-overeem-full-live-stream-t50407.html

When I can't find a stream. Won't likely have any posted until right as it starts or very soon after.

[HeavyLeggedWaistBender]

Tried streaming that, didn't work. And I don't feel charitable enough to "donate."

[LTgiants]

Holy crap Johny Hendricks

[E-Man]

The words 'holy' and '****' need to be put together for that Hendricks/Fitch fight. GSP haters are going to be out in full force too. lol

[nepg]

LOL **** You, Jon Fitch. Eat it, *****.

[raiderz4life]

I absolutely hate the Diaz brothers and their boyfriend Shields but gtdamn...Cowboy got picked apart big time.

[nepg]

Great fight. Cerrone should have taken a chance on that first leg kick knock down he got in the third round. Nate's dangerous, but he was in a bad position to defend himself if Cerrone swarmed him.

[raiderz4life]

Cerrone just looked too timid and sloppy, Nate really had to hit something vital early on.

Those kicks should have been thrown much much more.

[jayceheathman]

That was pathetic

[Brodeur]

Goddammit Brock.

[raiderz4life]

LMAO Brock you dumbass lil girl

[jayceheathman]

Noooooooooo. :(

[FuzzyGopher]

And Ubereem retires Brock.

[raiderz4life]

Awww that sucks....I don't really like Brock but I respect him and Idk...little sad to see him retire.

[Complex]

His disease ****** him up.

[raiderz4life]

Now I kinda feel bad for calling him a dumbass lil girl....even though he was...shouda wrestled...was his only shot.

[FuzzyGopher]

Ubereem's legs could kill a bear.

[josh07039]

Eh I think that mma in general will be hurt without brock business wise, but the HVW division is still deep and has plenty of contenders. With Brock gone, Mir becomes more relevant in the division with his nemesis gone and now there is a legit contender in Overeem.

Business wise, it will be interesting how the UFC will do next year, with the two biggest draws in GSP and Brock gone. Without them, who can step up to really draw tickets? Jon Jones? JDS? Chael V Anderson seems to be one of the few fights that would be a surefire crazy seller.

[FuzzyGopher]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-foAhkb2hbJA/Tv6fneKTwaI/AAAAAAAAG6w/483ttzmiR-I/s1600/1.gif

[nepg]

Now I kinda feel bad for calling him a dumbass lil girl....even though he was...shouda wrestled...was his only shot.
His insides are soo messed up from his disease. That kick hurt him way more than it would have hurt most other people. He's missing a lot of padding in there.

Reem's eybrow was ****** up pretty well, so it wasn't like Brock wasn't doing anything. His reactions to being hit were a lot better than they had been in previous fights.

I, too, wish he would have just gone for it if this really was going to be his last fight. He should have been more aggressive in grappling and getting it to the ground. From the beginning.

Clear ring rust and just an insane amount of precious development missed from being sick retired Brock. I think it was pretty obvious if he didn't win this one, he'd be done. If he wasn't going to be done after this fight, he would have been fighting a lesser opponent to build himself back up again.

Brock is such a beast, though. The kind of fights he was in in his 8-fight career are just incredible in magnitude. And he really only had two legit losses after being out for a year + in each of those fights.

The guy has earned a lot of respect that people don't give him because they're caught up on the pro wrestling thing or because they look at the guy and decide he's a dumb ass piece of **** (when, in reality, the guy is mostly humble with a slight edge and is pretty intelligent). I bet people's perception of Brock would be a lot different if he just changed his hair cut. He wouldn't look nearly as dumb if he just shaved the rest of it off or buzzed it real short.

[Bosanac01]

This was a great event.

[nepg]

Watching Dream New Years Eve...

I do not know why I am doing so. Really should just catch the one fight I want to see off of this tomorrow morning...

The ring entrances...wow. They're in prime form today.

[nepg]

Holy ****. The Kikuno-Nagashima fight!

Nagashima comes out in school girl drag and is fighting with make-up on... Crazy fight aside from that, too.

[raiderz4life]

Just saw the fitch fight...wow...

[Rob S]

Well, "Rumble" is getting cut after the Belfort fight......11 pounds over. Guess he should have skipped 185 altogether and went right to 205.

[TimmG6376]

Well, "Rumble" is getting cut after the Belfort fight......11 pounds over. Guess he should have skipped 185 altogether and went right to 205.

That is pretty sad. If he has been able to make 170 before I don't get how he could miss weight at 185.

[Rob S]

That is pretty sad. If he has been able to make 170 before I don't get how he could miss weight at 185.

Yeah, it seems like he didnt try. Maybe he is sick or something.....who knows.

[FuzzyGopher]

Not sure if they are still offering it but yesterday they were giving away free passes to watch 142 on Xbox 360 using the UFC app.

[Caddy]

How the hell does Rumble miss 185 pounds by 11 pounds. At some stage you have to question his attitude towards being a mixed martial artist.

[Smash28Dash34]

Dosen't matter what weight Rumble comes in at, he is gonna get KTFO. Vitor will get inside and test that chin of his. Rumble might be stronger, but Vitor is too fast for a guy his size to keep in check. Vitor by TKO.

[Rob S]

Yeah, it seems like he didnt try. Maybe he is sick or something.....who knows.

http://mmaweekly.com/medical-reasons-not-lack-of-effort-prevented-anthony-johnson-from-making-weight

That sucks. He was on target to make weight, but a doctor determined he needed fluids.

[Bosanac01]

I wanna bet on UFC, where is the best place to do it?

[Rob S]

I wanna bet on UFC, where is the best place to do it?

Get a bookie I guess......or find a friend willing to wager.

[Bosanac01]

1. find a friend
2. find a friend willing to wager.

Too many steps.

[Rob S]

1. find a friend
2. find a friend willing to wager.

Too many steps.

Yeah, I could see step one being a bit of a curve ball. I will bet you rep/sig bets if you want.

[Bosanac01]

I wanted to put a couple hundred bucks on Anthony Johnson tomorrow. Seems like a lot of people are riding him down especially now after the weight ins. I really think he knocks out Belfort. If you think Belfort will win, then I'm willing to do a sig bet.

BTW, just so it's on the record. I'm 0-11 all-time in sig bets on this site. Most of those come from Fenikz.

[Bosanac01]

I will need a link as soon as someone finds one, I'm not good at this.