MMA Discussion Thread - SPOILERS!

[ccB]

If shogun beats Griffin he will get a shot at the title right away.

[Ravens1991]

that will make a great re-match.

[Nerv]

Steal a page from Pride UFC, lets see a ******* mini GP for the LHW #1 Contender! Wanderlei vs Chuck; Shogun vs Alexander - Winner gets Rampage

[Ravens1991]

great Idea Nerv I would love that. But would Wandy wanna fight Shogun? I remember he didnt because they are both Chute boxing.

[Nerv]

I dont know, they beat each other up everyday so whats the difference if its in the cage and for a title shot haha.

[Ravens1991]

true I wonder who wins those matches it would be a great one to see.

[Nerv]

Ive watched some of their full contact sparring videos on youtube & it seemed Shogun was getting the better of Wandy in what I saw.

[ccB]

Shogun seems more technical on the ground. I'd take him over Wandy head to head.

[Ravens1991]

Is anybody going to watch TUF w/ Hughes and Serra?

[fenikz]

Steal a page from Pride UFC, lets see a ******* mini GP for the LHW #1 Contender! Wanderlei vs Chuck; Shogun vs Alexander - Winner gets Rampage

They aren't allowed to do it in America from what I've heard, something to do with not having enough time to rest between fights, although maybe Ireland, England, Brazil, Russia or Japan would like to have it.

Is anybody going to watch TUF w/ Hughes and Serra?

I probably won't watch them when they are 1st released but once spike had a marathon or something I'll probably watch most of em, BTW I got Serra over Hughes in that fight

[Man_Of_Steel]

Is anybody going to watch TUF w/ Hughes and Serra?

Def, I love the Ultimate Fighter Reality Show. I hear this year is supposed to be crazy inside the house. Remember Wednesdays this year.

[Nerv]

Ya TUF is always entertaining even if Im not huge fans of the coaches, I dont mind Serra but he was just on the show & people say he acts like a douche since he won the title haha. Ill set it to be recorded on the dvr so ill see all of the episodes.

Ya the UFC definitely wont run any type of GP Im sure but it would be fun to see. I believe EliteFC is on the 15th, here is the card its having.

Murilo Rua vs. Robbie Lawler
Renato Verissimo vs. Jake Shields
Kala Kolohe Hose vs. Jeff Fox
Mark Kurano vs. Jose Diaz
Gina Carano vs. Tonya Evinger
Nick Diaz vs. Mike Aina
Joey Villasenor vs. Riki Fukuda
Mark Oshiro vs. Nui Wheeler
Chad Klingensmith vs. Brandon Wolfe

[Man_Of_Steel]

Any word on when Gamburyn, Diaz, Lauzon, Emerson, Hill, Maynard, are fighting?

[ccB]

Any word on when Gamburyn, Diaz, Lauzon, Emerson, Hill, Maynard, are fighting?

UFC FIGHT NIGHT 11: SEPTEMBER 19, 2007 ON SPIKE TV
venue: Palms Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada

Main Card Bouts:
-Din Thomas vs. Kenny Florian
-Chris Leben vs. Terry Martin
-Nate Diaz vs. Junior Assuncao
-Nate Quarry vs. Pete Sell

Preliminary Bouts:
-Kuniyoshi Hironaka vs. Thiago Alves
-Jonathan Goulet vs. Dustin Hazelett
-Leonard Garcia vs. Cole Miller
-Luke Cummo vs. Edilberto "Crocota" de Oliveira
-Gray Maynard vs. Joe Veres



This is the next fight night card, some of the guys you mentioned will be on there. Looking forward to this card a lot, Martin vs leben will be a slugfest (Martin by decapitation) Quarry vs Sell is a solid match up and Din Thomas vs KenFlo has title implications so look for that to be a hard faught match. I also love the Leonard Garcia vs Cole Miller match up, Garcia has some of the most heart in the UFC imo.


Also Joe Lauzon will be fighting on the same card as BJ penn Nov 17th.

[UKfan]

Haha, just noticed the Question of the decade in your sig, it is one I cannot answer....

Anyway I liked Cole Miller on the show, I think he has a lot of potential, so it should be fun to see him mix it up with Garcia...

Who do people will win the main event? KenFlo for me

[Ravens1991]

Which Diaz was the one who submitted Gomi but got the win removed because he tested positive for pot.

[UKfan]

Which Diaz was the one who submitted Gomi but got the win removed because he tested positive for pot.

Nick Diaz.

[soybean]

nick diaz. nate is the younger one that won last season's TUF.

[Ravens1991]

Thanks, I wish Nick could get to UFC and not Elite cageX, anybody who submits Gomi is a beast plus weed makes you worse which is impressive.

[ccB]

I hope to see a Diaz vs Shields match up in Elite xc, or possibly a Lawler Diaz rematch if lawler would move down.

[JF4]

Thanks, I wish Nick could get to UFC and not Elite cageX, anybody who submits Gomi is a beast plus weed makes you worse which is impressive.

I'm assuming u've never tried it.

It gives you super powers

[ccB]

I'm assuming u've never tried it.

It gives you super powers
Gives me super powers. I mean, if i had ever done it or something...

[gbpackers0065]

CRACK IS WACK But weed's aight

[fenikz]

Thanks, I wish Nick could get to UFC and not Elite cageX, anybody who submits Gomi is a beast plus weed makes you worse which is impressive.

I really doubt it he hates the UFC

the weed helped the fact that he broke his face during the fight, but i have no clue how you get a guy in a gogoplata while being high, especially someone who most people think is the best LW in the world

[JF4]

I really doubt it he hates the UFC

the weed helped the fact that he broke his face during the fight, but i have no clue how you get a guy in a gogoplata while being high, especially someone who most people think is the best LW in the world

There's no way he was actually high during the fight.

[gbpackers0065]

There's no way he was actually high during the fight.

Yea, but that would be fun to watch :).

[fenikz]

There's no way he was actually high during the fight.

actually i think he was really really really high, a positive THC level is 15(1 joint basically), he was at 175

[Ravens1991]

that was a drug test before the fight I believe.

[JF4]

that was a drug test before the fight I believe.

I don't think they would test you right before the fight. Maybe like a few day before.

[Ravens1991]

yea thats what I meant.

[Ravens1991]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1499390000238023472&q=Kevin+Randleman&total=54&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

I famous Randleman suplay on Fedor.

[MaxV]

I'm not sure if you guys may saw it, but there used be an AWESOME Fedor Emelianenko tribute video on youtube. I think they took it off.

It was labeled "the best ever".

Any idea if that video still exists somewhere on the net?

[fenikz]

I'm not sure if you guys may saw it, but there used be an AWESOME Fedor Emelianenko tribute video on youtube. I think they took it off.

It was labeled "the best ever".

Any idea if that video still exists somewhere on the net?

dailymotion.com has a lot of pride fights you could look on there

[soybean]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1499390000238023472&q=Kevin+Randleman&total=54&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

I famous Randleman suplay on Fedor.

im very surprised he was able to win that one.

Watch this match against kazuyuki "ironhead" fujita. He almost lost this one too. watch at around 6:15

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3087287243926460532&q=fedor+fujita&total=12&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[Ravens1991]

Fedor is such a beast, the only thing to worry about Fedor in UFC is he gets elbowed and then he has a cut.

[MaxV]

im very surprised he was able to win that one.

Watch this match against kazuyuki "ironhead" fujita. He almost lost this one too. watch at around 6:15

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3087287243926460532&q=fedor+fujita&total=12&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

That might have been his toughest match, eventhough it did end in the 1st round.

Since we are posting Fedor's fight videos, this might be my favorite:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5188191485299056071&q=fedor+emelianenko+vs+gary&total=10&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[SuperKevin]

I just realized Chuck Liddell is in the movie "How High"

[fenikz]

Fedor is such a beast, the only thing to worry about Fedor in UFC is he gets elbowed and then he has a cut.

well basically thats what happened to him against Lindland and he just dropped to the ground and got an arm bar within a minute

[ccB]

Big show coming up tommorow with alot of great fights, my boy Nick Diaz getting back in the cage cant wait. Hes easily one of my top 5 if not top 3 fighters in MMA. I am also looking forward to seeing Charuto vs Jake Shields, Should be a great fight if Charuto comes in shape. Robby Lawler fights are never short on excitement either. Lawler vs Ninja should be a stand up war.

[ccB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXedDg33EgA&mode=related&search=

Nice little promo for tomorrow nights fight.

[JF4]

I just realized Chuck Liddell is in the movie "How High"

That's random, what part?

[ccB]

I dont think this is against the rules since MMA really isnt a part of this site but I have created a Blog where I will post my MMA predictions amongst other things.

http://landoftheo.blogspot.com/ Check it out

[SuperKevin]

That's random, what part?

He's fighting with somebody when the big party in the dorm gets busted up

[Ravens1991]

Big show coming up tommorow with alot of great fights, my boy Nick Diaz getting back in the cage cant wait. Hes easily one of my top 5 if not top 3 fighters in MMA. I am also looking forward to seeing Charuto vs Jake Shields, Should be a great fight if Charuto comes in shape. Robby Lawler fights are never short on excitement either. Lawler vs Ninja should be a stand up war.

that does look like a nice card.

[ccB]

I got everyone of my predictions right for this card. Maybe not the exact way it ended but still picked all the winners :)

[Ravens1991]

I am surprised Ninja Rua got KO.

[ccB]

Everyone remember the name Gesias "JZ" Calvancanti, He will be the number LW in all of MMA as soon as everyone quits sleeping on him.

[Ravens1991]

do you think he could take Gomi?


Speaking of Gomi were is he? I wish he would go to the UFC but I think him and Dana have beef. I think Elite cage fighting could over take UFC, it will look very good if there title fight is Barnett VS. Fedor for HWT.

[bored of education]

I just watched those Fedor Classic fights, 1st person I see in parking lot on my way to my car is getting merked

[Ravens1991]

lol, I decided that if I ever get into a fight I would get a takedown then get side mount and start raining knees to his face and ribs then finish it off with a arm breaking armbar.

[fenikz]

lol, I decided that if I ever get into a fight I would get a takedown then get side mount and start raining knees to his face and ribs then finish it off with a arm breaking armbar.

that would be the most technical fight i have ever seen

[Man_Of_Steel]

lol, I decided that if I ever get into a fight I would get a takedown then get side mount and start raining knees to his face and ribs then finish it off with a arm breaking armbar.

But what music would you enter with?

[Ravens1991]

I can be your hero by Enrique Inglesias.

[ccB]

The only song to come out to is How I could just kill a man, either version Rage against the machines or Cypress Hill's take your pick.

[Ravens1991]

Seriously I would come out to either...

Animal I have become- 3 days grace
Cant be touched- Roy Jones JR
To Be Loved- Papa Roach
big things poppin- TI
maybe some Lil John

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Nobody comes out to any Metal. I would come out to Raining Blood by Slayer, or maybe some Megadeth or Cannibal Corpse

[UKfan]

I'd come out to the Octagon to Rip It Up by JET I think...

[Man_Of_Steel]

I forget who it was that came out with Rolling Stones- Gimmie Shelter a few PPV's ago, that was pretty cool.

[Rob S]

The Point of No Return by Immortal Technique would be cool to come out to. Great beat and actually an amazing artist.

[fenikz]

I would come out to something really lame and slow, like Journey or Chicago or something and just have headphones on

in my headphones would be Crystal Skull by Mastodon

[Ravens1991]

I noticed some fighters dont come out to something fast that usually pumps somebody up, like CC and BJ Penn came out to Hawaian drums against Pulver.

[Man_Of_Steel]

I forget who it was that came out with Rolling Stones- Gimmie Shelter a few PPV's ago, that was pretty cool.

anyone remember who this was?

[fenikz]

nope but tim sylvia comes out to jesus walks with me

[Ravens1991]

I wonder who will win Sylvia or Vera when they go at it.

[Nerv]

I finally watched the Elite XC card, lots of pretty good fights. Man Diaz won an EXTREMELY close decision, fight could have gone either way really. Robbie Lawler continues to look impressive everytime he comes out as well.


And personally Im sick of seeing so many fighters come out to rap, ugh, I agree with Sarf that we need some more heavy metal entrances.

I would probably come out to a song called Silence Calls the Storm by Canadian metalists Quo Vadis (http://youtube.com/watch?v=W5ciJcksiEU) or what I use to come out to for backyard wrestling/grappling.. Battering Ram by Zakk Wylde (http://youtube.com/watch?v=F411kF2Xy7U)

Or some other crazy ass metal song.

[ccB]

I wonder who will win Sylvia or Vera when they go at it.

Vera is dominate fashion. In a UFC without Fedor I could see Vera becoming the champion.

[ccB]

I finally watched the Elite XC card, lots of pretty good fights. Man Diaz won an EXTREMELY close decision, fight could have gone either way really. Robbie Lawler continues to look impressive everytime he comes out as well.


And personally Im sick of seeing so many fighters come out to rap, ugh, I agree with Sarf that we need some more heavy metal entrances.

I would probably come out to a song called Silence Calls the Storm by Canadian metalists Quo Vadis (http://youtube.com/watch?v=W5ciJcksiEU) or what I use to come out to for backyard wrestling/grappling.. Battering Ram by Zakk Wylde (http://youtube.com/watch?v=F411kF2Xy7U)

Or some other crazy ass metal song.

Come sail away by styx?


Nick Diaz was throwing crazy combos but they were glorified love taps. All he had to do was C O C K (unnecessary censor) back on a couple of those shots and he could of perhaps put him down. He was hitting every punch with percision. Diaz is one of my favorites but I think he took Aina lightly and it showed.

[Man_Of_Steel]

Ultimate Fighter tonight guys.

[Rob S]

and ultimate fight night........thomas-florian interests me quite a bit.

[ccB]

and ultimate fight night........thomas-florian interests me quite a bit.

That is a very underrated card. Diaz vs Assuncao could be crazy. I wouldnt be surprised to see an upset but Im pulling for my man Nate Dogg.

[Man_Of_Steel]

and ultimate fight night........thomas-florian interests me quite a bit.

Thats tonight? Din Thomas is fly as a mf.

[UKfan]

damn it, I dont get TUF or ultimate fight night until next week unless I can find it on the net :(

[Man_Of_Steel]

Heres SpikeTv's lineup tonight.

8:00- UFC Unleashed
9:00- Ultimate Fight Night
11:00- Ultimate Fighter

[Ravens1991]

nice I love the ultimate fighter, I wish that some UFC cards would be played more often on Spike.

[RyanLeaf#1]

IS the UFC fight night on tv tonight?

[fenikz]

yep all fight nights are on Spike TV

[RyanLeaf#1]

yep all fight nights are on Spike TV

Awesome. Im definitely watching it tonight. I was looking at the odds last night on sportsbook. Maybe ill take a shot with one of the underdogs.

[Ravens1991]

some funny pictures I found off of Sherdog.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g74/brplaya171/wandyshogun.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3753/nopridenolifelb8.jpg

http://i17.tinypic.com/639nynt.gif

[ccB]

Ceasar Gracie has one of the sickest camps, Nate and Nick Diaz, Gilbert Melendez and Jake Shields = woooooowwwwww. It isnt Greg Jacksons camp but its up there.

[RyanLeaf#1]

Okay I just wasted 25 bucks of my Sportsbook.com money and put it on under dog Chris Leben

[ccB]

Okay I just wasted 25 bucks of my Sportsbook.com money and put it on under dog Chris Leben

Well Martin looks like hes gassing, Leben could still get the KO. I predicted Martin in this one.

[RyanLeaf#1]

Well Martin looks like hes gassing, Leben could still get the KO. I predicted Martin in this one.

Leben definitely won the 2nd round. He may have won the first too but that 1 point is gonna kill him. Martin looks terrible right now. He keeps throwing heymakers.

[RyanLeaf#1]

Leben looks beat in this third round man

[RyanLeaf#1]

Leben Knocks Him Out!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ccB]

That was reminiscent of Pete Sell vs Scott Smith.

[RyanLeaf#1]

That was reminiscent of Pete Sell vs Scott Smith.

That was awesome. In the last fight I bet Kenny Florian.

[Man_Of_Steel]

That was awesome. In the last fight I bet Kenny Florian.

I wnat Din to win, if for nothing else but his winning speeches.

[RyanLeaf#1]

I wnat Din to win, if for nothing else but his winning speeches.

Well I laid $125 to win back $75 on Kenny so obviously im rooting for him.

[RyanLeaf#1]

That was a straight nut shot

[RyanLeaf#1]

Kenny wins me money baby thats what im talkin about

[JF4]

I love watching Leben fight. That was such an inspiring KO.

[RyanLeaf#1]

I love watching Leben fight. That was such an inspiring KO.

That was awesome I thought he was done then he just knocked the dude out.

[Man_Of_Steel]

Going into the Ultimate Fighter 6 I thought everyone would want to be on Hughes team like Penn last year, it almost seemed like the majority wanted Serra.

[ccB]

Going into the Ultimate Fighter 6 I thought everyone would want to be on Hughes team like Penn last year, it almost seemed like the majority wanted Serra.

I knew that it would be everyone want Serra. Matt Hughes is a notorious dick on the MMA scene and Serra is a far better teacher and man to have in your corner. Not to mention Serra is ******* hilarious.

[RyanLeaf#1]

Serras boy the one who fought last night sucks. I think his name was Joey.

[ccB]

Serras boy the one who fought last night sucks. I think his name was Joey.

He doesnt suck just lacked the heart. I can kind of understand where hes coming from. Mac Danzig has already made a name for himself in MMA and he has to be the favorite to win this. Joe most likely came in thinking he was going to fight other no names like him but that wasnt the case. He was scared to go against Mac and wasnt expecting it and it was obvious. This was a classic example of a well rounded MMA fighter vs a one dimensional MMA fighter. Fights like that will go the same way this one went 90% of the time.

[RyanLeaf#1]

He doesnt suck just lacked the heart. I can kind of understand where hes coming from. Mac Danzig has already made a name for himself in MMA and he has to be the favorite to win this. Joe most likely came in thinking he was going to fight other no names like him but that wasnt the case. He was scared to go against Mac and wasnt expecting it and it was obvious. This was a classic example of a well rounded MMA fighter vs a one dimensional MMA fighter. Fights like that will go the same way this one went 90% of the time.

It just looked like to me that he gave up with 10 seconds to go and he let him choke him out.

[ccB]

Yeah some guys let their nerves get the best of them. A classic example of this can be observed in GSP vs Matt Serra.

[JF4]

Yeah some guys let their nerves get the best of them. A classic example of this can be observed in GSP vs Matt Serra.

Please never bring that up again.

[RyanLeaf#1]

Yeah some guys let their nerves get the best of them. A classic example of this can be observed in GSP vs Matt Serra.

GSP will be back on top very soon.

[Man_Of_Steel]

GSP will be back on top very soon.

Thats the truth, let him fight in Canada too.

[RyanLeaf#1]

Thats the truth, let him fight in Canada too.

GSP is my boy he wrecked the dude in his last fight.

[Nerv]

Its a shame Din blew his knee out that fight looked like it was going to be really good. Pretty good night of fights, also I like Pete Sell but is anyone as good as he is at finding a way to lose? Needs to keep his damn hands up at least.

[fenikz]

last night when i was waiting to watch the fight around about 8:50 my cable goes out, so anyone know of a place that has some of the fights online

[Ravens1991]

probably the typical spots, youtube is to popular but try dailymotion.

[Nerv]

Just search for it on google, either a stream or a torrent you should be able to find it. Also since it was shown on cable and not PPV streaming sites should have it so you probably wont need to DL a torrent or anything.

[Ravens1991]

So what do you think is going to happen w/ UFC 76?

I think Liddell Kills Jardine

and I think Shogun gets a TKO in the 3rd but I could see it going the distance.

[fenikz]

So what do you think is going to happen w/ UFC 76?

I think Liddell Kills Jardine

and I think Shogun gets a TKO in the 3rd but I could see it going the distance.

Liddell with a Right hook in the 2nd, TKO

Shogun, muay thai clinch with knees in the 1st, TKO

[UKfan]

Shogun via decapitation (KO in the first)

I'm going for an upset, Jardine over Liddell via GNP in the third

[fenikz]

Do you think Alexander fights one of these guys afterwards? he has been looking very dangerous lately and i don't know if the UFC wants either of these guys to lose.

[trkaline]

Lidell's gonna kill Jardine. He's goin to rebound after Rampage and I pity the fool who stands in his way....

[MaxV]

Liddell won't lose 2 in a row. But then again I said the same thing about Cro Cop.

Shogun will end it very quickly.

[Ravens1991]

I saw a pic of Liddell training and he had a 6 pack. That tells me that he trained very hard for this fight and harder then his Rampage fight.


I think Shogun does have the potential to kill Forrest but Forrest does have more octagon expierence plus he does have some heart.

[Nerv]

I dont see Shogun really standing with or KO'ing Forrest. He is going to clinch up quickly and look to take it to the ground, pepper Forrest with some shots until he gives up a sub then lock it on. Shogun via sub in the 2nd.

[Ravens1991]

I just heard that after UFC 75 White said that he signed Mark Hunt :) I love Hunt, a bullet couldn't go through his skull plus he has amazing standing skills. If he works on submission defense I could see him taking Fedor. Yes that is a bold prediction.

[ccB]

I dont see Shogun really standing with or KO'ing Forrest. He is going to clinch up quickly and look to take it to the ground, pepper Forrest with some shots until he gives up a sub then lock it on. Shogun via sub in the 2nd.

Nerv we are on the same page. People underrate Forrest, theres noway I think he wins but I think he can make it past round one. People please dont forget how virtual unknown Cyrille the snake Diabate (sp?) stood up with Shogun and was not out classed by any means.

[UKfan]

Diabaté's a great standup fighter, not so hot on the ground but excellent standup IMO. I'm just saying both my picks on a gut feeling...

[Ravens1991]

Is anybody getting this card tonight?

[JF4]

Is anybody getting this card tonight?

I always have a bunch of friends over at my house and we just drink (juice ofcourse)and watch the fights.

I actually bought boxing gloves so we can fight after the card too. I'm always so hyped after watching a UFC card.

[nvot9]

Can't wait for the fight tonight, I'm goin over a friends to watch it...

[ccB]

I'll be watching, never miss a fight.

Quick predictions:

-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Forrest Griffin- I think this will go closer than everyone expects. How will Shogun transition to fighting in the cage? Was he on roids in Pride? Forrest is a bigger than average LHW so if he can impose his will on Shogun early, it could cause Shogun to abandon his stand up for his submissions. I have been unimpressed with Shogun his last few fights and Id love to see the killer I saw a few years ago come back. Shogun via Split decision

-Chuck Liddell vs. Keith Jardine- Chucks not worried about Keith which is what worries me. Hes got his mind on Wandy and could end up getting upset. Ill still take chuck via KO

-Diego Sanchez vs. Jon Fitch - I originally predicted Fitch but he came into the weighs dehydrated after having to cut weight. So I say Diego via Decision

-Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Lyoto Machida - Machida via Unanimous Decision (if he loses look for a move to MW)

-Tyson Griffin vs. Thiago Tavares - Thiago Tavares via sub

[Ravens1991]

I always have a bunch of friends over at my house and we just drink (juice ofcourse)and watch the fights.

I actually bought boxing gloves so we can fight after the card too. I'm always so hyped after watching a UFC card.

That is a good idea, I am trying to get it some time then have people show up and we split the price.



I love doing MMA w/ boxing gloves it is so fun. I am best at rear naked chokes and armbars from guard bottom, but I also love to Ground and pound that is fun.

[soybean]

I'll be watching, never miss a fight.

Quick predictions:

-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Forrest Griffin- I think this will go closer than everyone expects. How will Shogun transition to fighting in the cage? Was he on roids in Pride? Forrest is a bigger than average LHW so if he can impose his will on Shogun early, it could cause Shogun to abandon his stand up for his submissions. I have been unimpressed with Shogun his last few fights and Id love to see the killer I saw a few years ago come back. Shogun via Split decision

-Chuck Liddell vs. Keith Jardine- Chucks not worried about Keith which is what worries me. Hes got his mind on Wandy and could end up getting upset. Ill still take chuck via KO

-Diego Sanchez vs. Jon Fitch - I originally predicted Fitch but he came into the weighs dehydrated after having to cut weight. So I say Diego via Decision

-Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Lyoto Machida - Machida via Unanimous Decision (if he loses look for a move to MW)

-Tyson Griffin vs. Thiago Tavares - Thiago Tavares via sub

my friend is a huge shogun fan and he thinks that shogun might lose. He's been reading up and apparantly shogun hasn't trained in the octagon and he didn't watch any videos on forrest griffin. Of course, it can be the polar opposite and shogun comes out flying, but i agree, i think this will be a closer than expected fight.

[fenikz]

Shogun via decapitation round 1

thats what i got

[Ravens1991]

yea I have said Shogun wont walk through him like most think. I think Shogun wins but I dont think he kills him like some say. If it was in a ring then no question Shogun literally kills Forrest, but I say it at least goes to round 3.

my prediction is Shogun with a KO or submission with 1:47 left in the 3rd.

[Wootylicous]

Well Tyson Griffin look good.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Wow......

I didn't know Chute Boxe fighters gassed.

[RyanLeaf#1]

Did Chuck win?

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Did Chuck win?

That fight is next

[RyanLeaf#1]

That fight is next

I hope he loses. I was gonna bet against him getting 4/1, but I didnt go out to watch it.

[ccB]

Wow......

I didn't know Chute Boxe fighters gassed.

You dont when you're on roids. Not excusing anyone of anything, well maybe I am.

[RyanLeaf#1]

Any result on the main event yet?

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Any result on the main event yet?
Going to the scorecards, I have Jardine winning...

We'll see

[ccB]

Any result on the main event yet?

Keith Jardine by split decision.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Jardine wins, TUF guys coming through tonight

[RyanLeaf#1]

Jardine wins, TUF guys coming through tonight

Mother ****** I was gonna bet him too.

[bernbabybern820]

Wow night of upsets.

Also pretty funny that its called UFC 76: KNOCKOUT even though there werent any knockouts.

[jayceheathman]

I bet that Jon Fitch would beat Diego Sanchez. Won $12 too.

[soybean]

damn, it's a sad fall from grace from all these Pride FC superstars. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see fedor get signed then lose his opening fight to say...tim sylvia.

[Ravens1991]

I am just shocked maybe Rampage was right that Shogun did juice because I thought no matter what the fight area was Shogun had enough natural talent to win against Forrest.


I am also shocked with Jardine, It sounded like Jardine stood up and slugged with Chuck and I am surprised he won.



So what is next for Shogun and Chuck?

[Ravens1991]

How about

Rua VS. Liddell
Jardine VS. Wanderlie (winner faces Rampage)


Also who was winning the Rua Griffin fight before the tap out, mmaweekly had it 20-18 Rua and sherdog had it 29-18 Griffin.



My new LHW rankings

1. Rampage
2. Henderson
3. Wanderlie
4. Sokojuo
5. Rua
6. Liddell
7. Griffin
8. Jardine
9. Nog
10. Arona


After the top 4 you could make a case for anybody anywere, I do think Arona and Nog should be higher I just didn't know were to put them I made this real quick so I will try to revise it later.

[MaxV]

Liddell won't lose 2 in a row. But then again I said the same thing about Cro Cop.

Shogun will end it very quickly.

Am I good or what??? :)

[Nerv]

Forrest was most definitely going to win the fight if it went to the judges. He clearly won rounds 2 & 3 after probably losing the first.

Shogun gassing halfway through the 2nd round was a serious letdown, how did he make so many 10 minute rounds in Pride? He went straight for the takedowns like I thought (Shogun's striking just hasnt been any good at all since the broken arm) but Forrest's guard was better than Shoguns top game -- that shocked me.

And I have to say it... **** YOU CHUCK & JARDINE!!! Really I dont have much of a preference but us MMA nuts have been waiting half a decade to see freaking Liddell vs Silva and once again it gets screwed up.

[ccB]

Forrest was most definitely going to win the fight if it went to the judges. He clearly won rounds 2 & 3 after probably losing the first.

Shogun gassing halfway through the 2nd round was a serious letdown, how did he make so many 10 minute rounds in Pride? He went straight for the takedowns like I thought (Shogun's striking just hasnt been any good at all since the broken arm) but Forrest's guard was better than Shoguns top game -- that shocked me.

And I have to say it... **** YOU CHUCK & JARDINE!!! Really I dont have much of a preference but us MMA nuts have been waiting half a decade to see freaking Liddell vs Silva and once again it gets screwed up.

Yeah, its ridiculous. They shouldnt of even hyped it as Chuck has to win to fight Wandy they should of just kept it quiet and let them two fight no matter win or lose.

[gbpackers0065]

Can anybody posts the fight videos?

[soybean]

Am I good or what??? :)

not on the last prediction.

how bout me? i called shogun losing, or at least stated what my friend said.

[soybean]

how bout wandy against houston alexander?

[ccB]

how bout wandy against houston alexander?

Sounds like a good matchup to me. I think Alexander will get Silva or Liddell next for sure.

[gbpackers0065]

how bout wandy against houston alexander?

Thats probably what will happen, Alexander would have a good shot too.

[ccB]

I am on the Lyoto Machida bandwagon. I think he deserves a title shot sooner than later. I could see Griffin vs Machida to see who the #1 contender is.

[fenikz]

Everything I thought I knew about MMA was apparently completely wrong, I will no longer have an opinion of my own, what ever Couture says goes, he must be the best MMA coach ever he seems to be able to find a weakness in everyone's game

[Ravens1991]

yes Couture has a time machine.

Also I would love to see Alexander VS. Silva and then the winner gets Rampage.

[KCJ58]

haha Chuck Liddell lost he didnt do 1 thing right

[Ravens1991]

well his plan is to be a counter puncher, but I guess with his age so he isnt as quick as he used to be plus Jardines plan brought Keith a victory.

[KCJ58]

yea did u see Liddell's ribs Jardine kicked him hard

[fenikz]

Jardine had a great plan on taking out Liddell's Legs and Body, and after Liddell got rocked he looked scared

[UKfan]

Shogun via decapitation (KO in the first)

I'm going for an upset, Jardine over Liddell via GNP in the third

Yes! I knew Jardine would bag the upset, although my method was wrong.

Shogun's cardio was awful...

Pretty good event in all

[Ravens1991]

the question is what is next for Shogun? I guess possibly some scrub to build his popularity.

[KCJ58]

Forestt looked really good last night

[JF4]

Yes! I knew Jardine would bag the upset, although my method was wrong.

Shogun's cardio was awful...

Pretty good event in all

Personally I thought it was one of the worst ones in a while.

[fenikz]

I only got to see forrest celebrating at the end was he really beating Shogun or was he just lucky to get him into a sub, because his face was ****** up

[KCJ58]

Personally I thought it was one of the worst ones in a while.

when is Rampage's next fight

[fenikz]

they need to find a number 1 contender, honestly who would of ever thought that the most deserving of a title shot would be Houston Alexander

[JF4]

when is Rampage's next fight

No clue. A few guesses on who he may fight.

1) Lyoto Machida
2) Wanderlei Silva
3) Forrest Griffon

Alexander is a possibility too.

[Ravens1991]

I think UFC could spin with Liddell VS. Wand and the winner gets a 3rd fight against Rampage.

I want to see Alexander VS. Silva and the winner goes up against Ramapge but UFC could spin Liddell VS. Wand and get more $.

[fenikz]

liddell may be done in MMA, especially as any sort of elite LHW

[gbpackers0065]

No clue. A few guesses on who he may fight.

1) Lyoto Machida
2) Wanderlei Silva
3) Forrest Griffon

Alexander is a possibility too.

I think Wandy vs Alexander winner gets Rampage.

[Ravens1991]

yea I would love to see that go down, that would be a entertaining fight if Alexander works on his cardio.

[MaxV]

liddell may be done in MMA, especially as any sort of elite LHW


Well, I think he can still a be a factor.

To be honest, with recent losses of Henderson and Shogun, I'm not sure who I'd put at #1 in the LHW division right now.

I still don't think it's Rampage.

[Ravens1991]

why not, He has beaten Liddell and Henderson, Silva is still up in the air since he hasnt gotten a fight yet. You cant put anybody else up their but Rampage.


Also if Dana is still in love with Chuck I could see him sending Chuck a couple of grapplers that cant take him down so Chuck can get some momentum and then have Liddell VS. Rampage 3.

[MaxV]

why not, He has beaten Liddell and Henderson, Silva is still up in the air since he hasnt gotten a fight yet. You cant put anybody else up their but Rampage.


Also if Dana is still in love with Chuck I could see him sending Chuck a couple of grapplers that cant take him down so Chuck can get some momentum and then have Liddell VS. Rampage 3.


Yeah, but he got his @$$ handed to him by both Shogun and Wandy.

No, I don't think he's #1.

I still have Shogun at 1. Great fighters too have bad nights.

Even Fedor, at times, hasn't looked great.

[Man_Of_Steel]

Couple thoughts from the PPV.

- Shogun looked horrible, terrible conditioning, finally the hype is over, finally.
- Liddel's career may be over, he faced a pure striker and did not once attempt to go ground. Granted he himself is a striker but he had a much better chance on the ground.
- Griffen may get a shot at Rampage, there is no clear cut #1 contender and he is a fan favorite. For those of you who are gonna say Silva he has to fght at least once in the UFC first, Dana wouldnt put him in a main event seeing how poorley other Pride fighters have done thus far.
- Jon Finch is a contender man, 2 staright losses for the man who said he wanted to go undefeated in his career, baby steps Diego.

[JF4]

I would love to see Jon Fitch vs. GSP to see who fights the winner of Hughes and Serra.

[ccB]

I would love to see Jon Fitch vs. GSP to see who fights the winner of Hughes and Serra.

GSP is already next in line for the title shot I believe. I read an article saying he wont be fighting at the Montreal UFC show because he is waiting for the winner of Hughes vs Serra.

[JF4]

GSP is already next in line for the title shot I believe. I read an article saying he wont be fighting at the Montreal UFC show because he is waiting for the winner of Hughes vs Serra.

Than whats the point of even having a Montreal show...

[ccB]

Than whats the point of even having a Montreal show...

Maybe a main event fight from Patrick Cote!

[JF4]

Maybe a main event fight from Patrick Cote!

I'm sooooooooooooooo excited.

[Ravens1991]

I would love for UFC to be in Baltimore or around here I would be the 1st one in line.


I wouldnt mind Jardine VS. Rampage, Jardine beat Liddell and destroyed Griffin, but since Houston Alexander killed Jardine I think it could go these to ways...


Alexander VS. Silva- Winner faces Rampage

Alexander VS. Rampage.

[Nerv]

Im positive they will find a fight for GSP if they have a Montreal show, even if it is a can they will make sure he gets on that card somehow.

[ccB]

Im positive they will find a fight for GSP if they have a Montreal show, even if it is a can they will make sure he gets on that card somehow.

Not according to what all the MMA sites are saying. All indications say his next fight is versus Serra or Huges.

[ccB]

I think LHW is a bit clogged now. I do not think Alexander deserves a title shot yet, I think Wandy needs a fight or two first. Griffin makes sense he did just decisively beat Shogun. Jardine I think needs another fight. Machida IMO deserves a shot soon as well. There should be a mini LHW tourney to see who fights page. Theres atleast 4-5 guys deserving of a shot. I say put Silva vs Alexander and hope Wandy wins to set up a Page vs Silva rematch (would be the most profitable fight) I think Forrest will get the first shot, everyone loves him.

[Nerv]

Not according to what all the MMA sites are saying. All indications say his next fight is versus Serra or Huges.

They havent actually announced a Montreal card yet have they? They could just wait until when he fights next to make the event there.

One person who wont be fighting in a Montreal card.. Rampage! He isnt legally allowed into the country of Canada

[Ravens1991]

I think LHW is a bit clogged now. I do not think Alexander deserves a title shot yet, I think Wandy needs a fight or two first. Griffin makes sense he did just decisively beat Shogun. Jardine I think needs another fight. Machida IMO deserves a shot soon as well. There should be a mini LHW tourney to see who fights page. Theres atleast 4-5 guys deserving of a shot. I say put Silva vs Alexander and hope Wandy wins to set up a Page vs Silva rematch (would be the most profitable fight) I think Forrest will get the first shot, everyone loves him.

I love Alexander VS. Wandy fight then the winner goes against Rampage.

[ccB]

this is from Sam Kaplans blog (mma writer for CBS Sportsline amongst other MMA related sites:

"Dana addressed the UFC going to Montreal but said GSP probably won’t be on the card.

You’ve got to be kidding me?

How do you run Montreal and not have GSP headline the show fighting for the welterweight title? That’s bigger than big."

[ccB]

There are also a lot of Rumors through the MMA world that both Liddell and Cro Cop are heavily considering retiring. Also a ton of rumors about Ricardo Arona coming to the UFC soon.

[gbpackers0065]

this is from Sam Kaplans blog (mma writer for CBS Sportsline amongst other MMA related sites:

I agree, although with the amount of Canadian fighters they should be able to fill up the card with a few.

There are also a lot of Rumors through the MMA world that both Liddell and Cro Cop are heavily considering retiring.

I could definitely see Cro Cop retiring.

[Ravens1991]

I like Arona I would like to see him in the UFC, but I would want Sokojuo to get into the UFC that guy is a beast.

[Nerv]

Arona is a bum, dont sign him unless you absolutely cant get Sokou or you can guarantee Rampage power bombs him again.

[Ravens1991]

I think he is good, I guess a lot of it is just his style that makes him be good and also boring to watch.

[fenikz]

I love Alexander VS. Wandy fight then the winner goes against Rampage.

i agree that would be nearly as good as Liddell vs Wandy, hopefully Wandy takes it seriously unlike Shogun who showed up in terrible shape

[Ravens1991]

I think Dana would send Liddell grapplers who cant take him down to hopefully build up his popularity for a final championship shot.

[fenikz]

and it looks like Wandy wants Griffin, so if they fight the winner definitely should take on Rampage

[Ravens1991]

yea I say that to I would love Wandy VS. Rampage match 3.

[soybean]

i think chuck's done. He still has fight in him but i don't think anybody wants to see rampage vs. lidell 3.

[Ravens1991]

Word Rampage would kill him, I wanna see Silva VS. Rampage 3.


What is up w/ Big Nog isnt he in the UFC. I wonder who he is fighting next.

[gbpackers0065]

What is up w/ Big Nog isnt he in the UFC. I wonder who he is fighting next.

That's what I was thinking, I can't wait till they announce his next fight.

[Nerv]

That's what I was thinking, I can't wait till they announce his next fight.

I think winner of Sylvia/Vera will face Big Nog for a title shot. Randy has a broken arm right now so they have easily enough time to make this possible.

[Ravens1991]

I see so a interm champion thing, then the interm champion faces Randy I guess.

[gbpackers0065]

I hope it's not Sylvia, he is my least favorite fighter to watch.

[Nerv]

I see so a interm champion thing, then the interm champion faces Randy I guess.

Randy will stay champion, technically you only have to defend your title 1 time a year to keep it. He will be out a little while but definitely not an entire year, I think the time frame of the upcoming Vera/Sylvia bout which is next month then at least 2 month layoff before the winner would face Big Nog and another 2 months till that winner would face Randy. He will be healthy by then.

[Ravens1991]

I see, I would love to see Nog VS. Couture. I hope Fedor comes in time so he could face Randy. I could see Randy taking it but my money would be on Fedor. I could see Randy catching Fedor and making him cut which will then lead to Fedor trying a submission and then who knows.

[ccB]

I think winner of Sylvia/Vera will face Big Nog for a title shot. Randy has a broken arm right now so they have easily enough time to make this possible.

I whole heartedly believe that by the time Couture is healthy Fedor will be under contract adn that will be the match up.

[Nerv]

They still arent going to give any recent signee a title shot as their first fight, even Fedor. Cro Cop had more hype surrounding him when he entered the UFC than Fedor currently has and they gave him 2 fights before a shot at the title.

[ccB]

They still arent going to give any recent signee a title shot as their first fight, even Fedor. Cro Cop had more hype surrounding him when he entered the UFC than Fedor currently has and they gave him 2 fights before a shot at the title.

Your wrong, Dana White has already gone on record and said Fedor gets a title shot as soon as he is signed.

[fenikz]

Henderson got a title shot without a warm up match, so it not like it has never happened

[ccB]

Henderson got a title shot without a warm up match, so it not like it has never happened

Well he kind of already had a title, but still Dana already said once Fedor signs = automatic shot at the title. Randy vs Fedor would be a dream match. Modern day David vs Terminator (YOU THOUGHT ID SAY GOLIATH) Joe Rogen was on Sirius radio talking about how the Russians are ******* crazy and they go "if you want fedor you have to sign sergei kharitonov, sergei good fighter, if you want fedor you have to sign whole red devil team, they good fighters." Fedor knows hes the best, Fedor's people know that he is the best, so they are not going to settle for nothing less than exactly what they want. Crazy Russians = smart business men.

[MaxV]

Well, like I've said before, I don't understand why they wouldn't want to sign Sergei Kharitonov and Aleksander Emelianenko.

Both of those guys are 26 years-old and VERY exciting fighters.

Both of them love to brawl also.

Neither of them are as good as Fedor, but they can challenge pretty much anyone else out there.

Some of you may not know this, but Kharitonov fought Big Nog and gave him a VERY tough fight, damn near beat him.

[ccB]

* Tito Ortiz vs. Rashad Evans
* Karo Parisyan vs. Hector Lombard
* Frank Edgar vs. Spencer Fisher
* Ed Herman vs. Dave Terrell
* Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
* Tamdan McCrory vs. Akihiro Gono


Heres the fight card for UFC 78, pretty unimpressive IMO. Why in the world did the UFC bring over Gono and not Kang? Edgar vs Fisher will be fight of the night easily. Im interested in seeing Parisyn vs Lombard, both are Judo masters. Hector Lombard is very highly touted and I'd love to see if the hype is for real.

[Nerv]

* Tito Ortiz vs. Rashad Evans
* Karo Parisyan vs. Hector Lombard
* Frank Edgar vs. Spencer Fisher
* Ed Herman vs. Dave Terrell
* Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
* Tamdan McCrory vs. Akihiro Gono


Heres the fight card for UFC 78, pretty unimpressive IMO. Why in the world did the UFC bring over Gono and not Kang? Edgar vs Fisher will be fight of the night easily. Im interested in seeing Parisyn vs Lombard, both are Judo masters. Hector Lombard is very highly touted and I'd love to see if the hype is for real.

They brought Gono for the ENTRANCES baby! But this card sucks, is Ortiz Evans seriously a main event?

Also, I think this is a diss to Karo, the man deserves a title shot more than anyone else at 170 imo. He always puts on an exciting fight, he beats everyone they put in front of him, & his title shot against Hughes he had to pull out because of an injury. He did lose to Diego a year ago but has been far more impressive than Diego since then.

[ccB]

They brought Gono for the ENTRANCES baby! But this card sucks, is Ortiz Evans seriously a main event?

Also, I think this is a diss to Karo, the man deserves a title shot more than anyone else at 170 imo. He always puts on an exciting fight, he beats everyone they put in front of him, & his title shot against Hughes he had to pull out because of an injury. He did lose to Diego a year ago but has been far more impressive than Diego since then.

Yeah Karo has fell victim to the whole wait a year to build up anticipation for the Serra vs Hughes match. This match has been so drawn out with TUF and everything else that all WW's have to take a back seat. Add on to that the fact that GSP is next in line for the title shot. Karo has no choice but to take one fight inbetween. I think Karo is next in line after GSP seeing as how he should have gotten a shot way back when but he got injured. Jon Fitch is going to be waiting a long time for his shot at the title as well. But Karo shouldnt look past Hector for now, the dudes a beast and he has the chance to upset Karo.

[Man_Of_Steel]

* Tito Ortiz vs. Rashad Evans
* Karo Parisyan vs. Hector Lombard
* Frank Edgar vs. Spencer Fisher
* Ed Herman vs. Dave Terrell
* Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt
* Tamdan McCrory vs. Akihiro Gono


Heres the fight card for UFC 78, pretty unimpressive IMO. Why in the world did the UFC bring over Gono and not Kang? Edgar vs Fisher will be fight of the night easily. Im interested in seeing Parisyn vs Lombard, both are Judo masters. Hector Lombard is very highly touted and I'd love to see if the hype is for real.

Thats not a good card at all. Im a big Ortiz fan but am not really looking forward to his fight against Evans. 1- because I think DEvans is overated and 2- because I dont see that fight as a main event. perhaps this is Dana giving Tito the main event to settle their feud.

[ccB]

I am sure thats not the complete card, usually theres 4 main card fights and around 4 under card fights. So there is atleast 2 fights missing from the card. Id expect to see Hamill vs Bisping on this card as well, they can run with the whole "settle the score" gimmick by having Bisping vs Hamill 2 and Evans vs Tito 2. I hate Tito, hopefully when he loses this fight he will take his boring style and retire.

[Man_Of_Steel]

I am sure thats not the complete card, usually theres 4 main card fights and around 4 under card fights. So there is atleast 2 fights missing from the card. Id expect to see Hamill vs Bisping on this card as well, they can run with the whole "settle the score" gimmick by having Bisping vs Hamill 2 and Evans vs Tito 2. I hate Tito, hopefully when he loses this fight he will take his boring style and retire.

That would be an intresting idea, Hamell got ripped off with the decision against Bisping.

[Ravens1991]

Tito said in a recent interview that he has 5 years left before he retires. He also said the IFL is appealing to him because he would get his own team.

[soybean]

Tito said in a recent interview that he has 5 years left before he retires. He also said the IFL is appealing to him because he would get his own team.

so as a coach? if that's the case, that'd be the perfect job for him after he retires. He's a great coach in my opinion.

[Ravens1991]

true his trash talking annoys me. I hope the IFL takes off I like the idea of the dual meets.

[Ravens1991]

I heard Nog is going up against Kongo in the next fight, hopefully the winner gets a title shot.

[Ravens1991]

My rankings.

1. Rampage- A good fighter who has improved, earned his spot not by beating #1, he actually never landed a punch on the previous #1 when the fought but he is there due to Shogun loss to Forrest who wasnt a top 10 going into this fight.

2. Henderson- Owns a win over Wandy and had a good showing against Rampage.

3. Wandy- I think he could take Jardine and he owns to brutal wins over Rampage.



Right now it gets tricky...

4. Soko- His 2 brutal 1 punch KO put him here, I think he has potential to be #1 within 2 years he is only 22.

5. Houston Alexander- His 2 brutal 1st round KOs one against Jardine give him the #1 UFC title contender spot IMO.

6. Jardine- Beating Liddell gets him here, his vicious win over Forrest puts him a head of Forrest.

7. Forrest- Would be higher but had a average career besides the win over Shogun.

8. Shogun- Is here due to vicious KOs in Pride.

9. Liddell- Was previously #3 but slide due to back to back losses maybe father time caught up to him.

10. Arona- A good grappler who hung with Silva well.

11. Lil Nog- Being in a small league will hurt him but did good against Dan Henderson and is a good fighter.

[ccB]

Houston Alexander is not top 5 yet, hes only beat one formidable opponent in Jardine. Thats not deservent of the top 5 let alone top 10. There are more deserving fighters to be in the top 10 (Lyoto Machida, Rashad Evans, etc) To be honest dont be surprised if the winner of Evans Vs Tito gets the next title shot. That was the rumor before the first fight that ended in a draw.

[fenikz]

Houston is definitely more deserving than Jardine or Griffin(plus he won't be able to fight for a long time due to the nasty cut he got from Shogun)

Wandy vs Alexander and then winner gets Rampage

Jardine vs Henderson, just because i hate Jardine and he needs to lose

Shogun vs Liddell, it could be a 2nd or 3rd fight on a card but would still be crazy and it would put one(if not both) back into contention for a title shot

[ccB]

Houston is definitely more deserving than Jardine or Griffin(plus he won't be able to fight for a long time due to the nasty cut he got from Shogun)

Wandy vs Alexander and then winner gets Rampage

Jardine vs Henderson, just because i hate Jardine and he needs to lose

Shogun vs Liddell, it could be a 2nd or 3rd fight on a card but would still be crazy and it would put one(if not both) back into contention for a title shot

What makes Alexander more deserving than Griffin? Who has he beat? Keith Jardine, so what. Who else? Alessio Sakara, again so what? There are atleast 5 guys more deserving to get a title shot than Houston Alexander. He has been impressive but not title shot impressive, atleast not yet.

[ccB]

Reports that I have read say Griffin vs Wandy will be Wandy's first fight. But it probably wont happen this year due to the gash on his forehead. So Wandy's debut may be postponed until 08. I think this is teh best matchup to see who the number one contender is, because its the most marketable. Griffin takes on a Chute box fighter and dismantles him so they can use the whole "wandy avenging Shoguns lost angle" Than if Griffin beats Wandy he can have the cool "Chute Box Killer" nickname.

Also it is rumored Big Nog's next fight will be against Cheik Kongo.

[bernbabybern820]

http://www.sportsline.com/mmaboxing/story/10369868/2

looks like Fedor will be signed in a couple of months after his Sambo tournament.

[jared]

I hope Rashad and Tito somehow simultaneously knock each other out and both lose. Or maybe they'll fall asleep while laying on top of each other and be disqualified for inaction. Seeing as how their first fight is in the running for most boring fight of the year, I don't think the rematch has the strength to headline a PPV card. A Wanderlei-Cro Cop staring match would be more exciting. The contrived hype leading up to this one is gonna make me puke, I know it.

[MaxV]

I hope so. Dana didn't guarantee it, but he said that he's "convinced".

We'll see.

[Ravens1991]

I love that Wandy Cro Cop idea but I dont think it will ever happen.

[fenikz]

What makes Alexander more deserving than Griffin? Who has he beat? Keith Jardine, so what. Who else? Alessio Sakara, again so what? There are atleast 5 guys more deserving to get a title shot than Houston Alexander. He has been impressive but not title shot impressive, atleast not yet.


I left Griffin out of it because he won't be ready to fight for basically the rest of this year because of that nasty cut


Henderson is the most deserving of another title shot, but of course they won't give him back to back matches with Rampage, the rest of the division is in chaos right now with no clear cut #1 contender

[Ravens1991]

My guess is Jardine or Alexander for Rampage.

Then if Silva wins against Forrest he gets a title shot assuming Rampage beats Jardine or Alexander.

[gbpackers0065]

I can't wait to see Fedor in the octagon.

[Ravens1991]

I hope he comes really soon.

[ccB]

My guess is Jardine or Alexander for Rampage.

Then if Silva wins against Forrest he gets a title shot assuming Rampage beats Jardine or Alexander.

well the way it seems set up now it will be Forrest vs Wandy winner fighting Rampage. If thats how it works out Rampage wont have a fight until he faces the winner of that. Which will probably be in the spring/early summer time. But long pauses like that between fights isnt uncommon, look how long it will take Serra to defend his title. I think it will work best this way, that way they can use the long time to distinguish who the best of the rest are in the LHW division by mix and matching the other group of guys ( Shogun, Chuck, Jardine, Alexander, Machida, Evans, Ortiz etc) If Rampage does happen to have a fight inbetween now and the winner of Forrest vs Wandy i think it will be the winner of Evans vs Ortiz.

[Ravens1991]

It will be interesting if Tito comes back since I believe this is the last fight on his contract. I remember reading he doesnt like Dana and all.

[gbpackers0065]

I hope he comes really soon.

I hope he doesn't pull a Cro Cop or I guess a Shogun too now, but I think Fedor is too strong for that.

[ccB]

Also I am making my prediction now, Alexanders next fight will be against Jason Lambert.

[ccB]

The hottest MMA rumor right now is Ken Florian vs Takanori Gomi at the TUF finale also Roger Huerta vs Clay Guida.

[Ravens1991]

I would love to see a re-match of Gomi VS. Diaz at TUF finale. But isnt Diaz suspended?

[gbpackers0065]

I heard something about Cummo and Marcus Davis.

[Ravens1991]

Frank Trigg said on his radio show that the main event for UFC 78 is Tito VS. Dan Henderson instead of Tito VS. Evans. I hope Dan wrecks Tito.

[MaxV]

Same here, I don't like Tito at all.

[ccB]

Yeah I cant stand Tito, he fights boring fights, Id love to see him get owned by Hendo. I wonder why the Evans Ortiz fight is off now.

[Nerv]

Sounds like Evans could have gotten hurt. Tito trying to wrestle & GnP an olympic level wrestler... ruh roh.

And Diaz's 6 month suspension is up but he isnt in the UFC & doesnt he currently have a contract with Elite XC, seems odd they would sign him for just that 1 fight. Gomi to the UFC would be nice but they always said it would be very difficult for Gomi to make 155 to fight at LW in the States. Remember the Pride LW division was like 163lbs and they say he had trouble making that sometimes.

[UKfan]

Thoughts on TUF 6 anyone? Man Joey annoys me, and Matt Hughes for that matter... not a fan of the whole bible thing.

[Nerv]

If there is a single Matt Hughes fan left after this season i will be shocked! OK well some people will probably always like the guy for whatever reason, but the more I see of him the less & less I like him.

Also, isnt it funny how all of these guys are welterweights but both Serra & Hughes look about 20 lb's heavier than all of them.

[fenikz]

If there is a single Matt Hughes fan left after this season i will be shocked! OK well some people will probably always like the guy for whatever reason, but the more I see of him the less & less I like him.

Also, isnt it funny how all of these guys are welterweights but both Serra & Hughes look about 20 lb's heavier than all of them.

i was thinking the exact same thing

[Ravens1991]

it is probably because they may have to fight any given week so they naturally keep their weight down, but Hughes and Serra arent training so I could see them at 185+ for their walking weight.

[Man_Of_Steel]

Thoughts on TUF 6 anyone? Man Joey annoys me, and Matt Hughes for that matter... not a fan of the whole bible thing.

Ya, Joey is ungrateful for the oppurtunity. The other guys are being way too nice to him bc I would be pissed at him.

[Nerv]

it is probably because they may have to fight any given week so they naturally keep their weight down, but Hughes and Serra arent training so I could see them at 185+ for their walking weight.

That is true but the difference in size really is quite enormous. Serra was a 155 fighter most of his career too, now he looks big as hell compared to 170'ers. But Hughes also lookes like he weighs around 200lbs, he must cut a TON of weight to fight at WW.

[Ravens1991]

yea I remember there was a rumor he may go to 185.

[MaxV]

Sergey Kharitonov has avenged his earlier loss to Alistair Overeem.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uZa6Fdfu8oY

He should be in UFC.

[Ravens1991]

Rumor has it that Liddell next opponent may be Shogun Rua.