MMA Discussion Thread - SPOILERS!

[Ravens1991]

who was the one with the wife that thought she was dieing? I forgot their names.

[ccB]

who was the one with the wife that thought she was dieing? I forgot their names.

Daniel Barrera is the one with the psycho wife. I think she was playing games to try and get him to come home.

[Ravens1991]

I had Saunders winning, did he win I went to sleep early.

[gbpackers0065]

Ravens is OTC in the Draft, TUF was ******** a round 3 should have been fought. But, it was cool that Dana gave them both money because that fight was great.

[Ravens1991]

word is that the winner of Chuck VS. Wand gets #1 contender spot, I dont think that Chuck deserves another shot, he got owned twice by Rampage.


I want to see Jardine VS. Forrest rematch and the winner gets Rampage.

[ccB]

word is that the winner of Chuck VS. Wand gets #1 contender spot, I dont think that Chuck deserves another shot, he got owned twice by Rampage.


I want to see Jardine VS. Forrest rematch and the winner gets Rampage.

Word, I heard Winner of Bisping/Evans fights Forrest for #1 contendership.

[Ravens1991]

I guess they are setting up Rampage a match where odds are he kills somebody to build his name up. Bisping didnt beat Hamil then he is up for the #1 contender spot. And Rashad didnt beat Tito. I dont get that one at all.

[fenikz]

Just because of the big names I'm sure the winner of Wand vs Liddell will fight Rampage, while that happens we can get the rest of the division straightened out

[gbpackers0065]

I want Houston Alexander to fight Wand or Chuck.

[ccB]

I want Houston Alexander to fight Wand or Chuck.

Hes going to have to beat Thiago Silva first which should not be as easy as everyone thinks.

[Nerv]

I don't think Rampage is super excited to fight any Chute Boxe guys again, even after Shogun's poor showing last month.

[Ravens1991]

yep, I don't see how Liddell gets a shot because he just lost 2 Jardine and got killed by Rampage. Rampage killed him twice I dont see why he gets it. He will never beat Rampage unless there is some fluke, Rampage is in his prime and Liddell is old and his time is over basically unless he switches up his style.

[ccB]

yep, I don't see how Liddell gets a shot because he just lost 2 Jardine and got killed by Rampage. Rampage killed him twice I dont see why he gets it. He will never beat Rampage unless there is some fluke, Rampage is in his prime and Liddell is old and his time is over basically unless he switches up his style.

I would not say all of that now. Liddell definitely has a legitimate chance to beat Rampage, it just hasnt happened in the 2 fights. Theres no doubt Rampage is the better fighter right now but as long as Chuck Liddell has his hands he will always stand a chance of winning any fight. Should we automatically count Rampage out of a fight against Wandy since Wandy so easily handeled him twice? No! Would anyone have imagined Couture being the HW champion after Chuck decisively handled him twice? No! This is the reason they fight the fights instead of going by records.

Regardless of all this though I trully believe the UFC is going to have the winner of Bisping/Evans fight Forrest to set up the #1 contenders match. It makes too much sense, it will be the most marketable fight they have at that weight because most of the US audience are fans of TUF so they are all familiar with all 3 of the fighters (Griffin, Evans, and Bisping) Not to mention Rampage is out until the early parts of 2008.

[soybean]

I want to see melvin manhoeff vs. anderson silva.

I think manhoeff has a legit chance to beat him.

[Ravens1991]

I would not say all of that now. Liddell definitely has a legitimate chance to beat Rampage, it just hasnt happened in the 2 fights. Theres no doubt Rampage is the better fighter right now but as long as Chuck Liddell has his hands he will always stand a chance of winning any fight. Should we automatically count Rampage out of a fight against Wandy since Wandy so easily handeled him twice? No! Would anyone have imagined Couture being the HW champion after Chuck decisively handled him twice? No! This is the reason they fight the fights instead of going by records.

Regardless of all this though I trully believe the UFC is going to have the winner of Bisping/Evans fight Forrest to set up the #1 contenders match. It makes too much sense, it will be the most marketable fight they have at that weight because most of the US audience are fans of TUF so they are all familiar with all 3 of the fighters (Griffin, Evans, and Bisping) Not to mention Rampage is out until the early parts of 2008.


The thing is Rampage is in his prime and improved a lot since the last Wanderlie fight, he didnt eat 3 days before the fight for religious purposes also, while Liddell is declining due to age. And Couture beat arguably the least talented UFC champion ever in Sylvia.

I dont think either Evans or Bisping deserve a title shot, they are both coming off very controversial matches.

I still think the best thing to do is Jardine VS. Forrest re-match and the winner faces Rampage.

[ccB]

I want to see melvin manhoeff vs. anderson silva.

I think manhoeff has a legit chance to beat him.

Melvin is a tough mother ******. His biggest problem against Anderson would be his reach disadvantage.

[ccB]

The thing is Rampage is in his prime and improved a lot since the last Wanderlie fight, he didnt eat 3 days before the fight for religious purposes also, while Liddell is declining due to age. And Couture beat arguably the least talented UFC champion ever in Sylvia.

I dont think either Evans or Bisping deserve a title shot, they are both coming off very controversial matches.

I still think the best thing to do is Jardine VS. Forrest re-match and the winner faces Rampage.

As much as I cant stand the way Sylvia fights some people underrate him so badly. He's 20-something and 3 with wins over Brandon Vera, Andrei Arlovski twice (do not forget a year ago people were saying AA was Fedors only competition int he world) Ricco Rodriguez (the good Ricco) Jeff Monson, and Ben Rothwell (top 10 HW IMO) I give Randy a ton of credit for beating Sylvia in that fight.

Also I do not think Bisping deserves a title shot either but Evans I believe is coming close to where he needs to be to get one, if he were to beat Bisping and then Griffin why wouldnt he deserve a shot at the title? Who else deserves one in front of Griffin or Evans? I mean a case could be made for either of them as it could for anyone. A lot of people around here talk about Houston Alexander in the title picture and hes done a whole lot less than either Evans or Griffin. Call me crazy but I think Evan's KO of Jason Lambert and KO to Sean Salmon were more impressive than Houston KO-ing Jardine and Sakara.

[Nerv]

I don't know, the Jardine KO was pretty impressive. Jardine is a good striker with a tough chin and he got mauled.

[Ravens1991]

yep that KO amazed me. It was hilarious because Jardine was talking before complaining about how "He should be fighting contenders and not new guys". That was vicious. In a way maybe Alexander caught Jardine because Jardine knocked Alexander to his butt then went in for the kill but Alexander gave a vicious strikes inside the clinch.

[Ravens1991]

If anybody has a FYE near them go and check it out. They had buy 1 get one off rack of all UFC products. I got UFC 51 and then UFC 58 for free. I also got UFC 59. I am a happy camper.

[Nerv]

http://i23.tinypic.com/65zz40.gif
http://mmagifs.com/albums/userpics/10001/SilvaSBK.gif
http://mmagifs.com/albums/userpics/10001/RichPreKTFO.gif
http://mmagifs.com/albums/userpics/10001/RichKTFO.gif

[Ravens1991]

The Law Lindland wants back into the UFC to go up against the spider.

http://mmamania.com/2007/10/29/ufc-quick-quote-matt-lindland-wants-to-beat-up-anderson-silva/

It would be a good fight, his wrestling would give Anderson a challenge, Anderson has a nice triangle choke on bottom.

I think he provides the best shot to take Anderson.

[fenikz]

I can only see that fight going 2 ways either Silva knocks out Lindland or Lindland just lays on Silva the whole fight and wins by decision

[Ravens1991]

probably but it is the best style 2 beat the Spider

[fenikz]

I think it's the only style to beat the spider, if you try some BJJ or Gn'P he will more than likely choke you out and we have all seen what happens when you stand with him

[Ravens1991]

yep he has a nice triangle choke from bottom guard, he is a freak.

[Ravens1991]

according to MMAjunkie Dan Hendo next fight will be at possibly 185 on UFC 79.

http://mmajunkie.com/ scroll a bit.

[Nerv]

Kevin Randleman has been in and out of the hospital for the last 2 years, guy has just been having serious health issues. He just spend 3 weeks in the hospital for one of the nastiest cases of staph infection ive ever seen.

Here is the article: http://www.mmanews.com/other/Pics--Quotes:-Randleman-Suffering-From-Awful-Staph-Infection.html


And here is the picture of the side of his body, a little graphic and definitely painful looking.




http://www.mmanews.com/images/randleman_staphinfection.jpg

[Man_Of_Steel]

Kevin Randleman has been in and out of the hospital for the last 2 years, guy has just been having serious health issues. He just spend 3 weeks in the hospital for one of the nastiest cases of staph infection ive ever seen.

Here is the article: http://www.mmanews.com/other/Pics--Quotes:-Randleman-Suffering-From-Awful-Staph-Infection.html


And here is the picture of the side of his body, a little graphic and definitely painful looking.




http://www.mmanews.com/images/randleman_staphinfection.jpg

Everybody wash your hands right now.

[fenikz]

dude that is pretty nasty, i got bit by a brown recluse once and i had a huge hole in my elbow like that but it was only about the size of a nickle

[Ravens1991]

yeah staph infection is going around like crazy in MD.

Randleman is a beast I really like him. Isnt he going to jail or something.

[UKfan]

Man I was eating when I saw that pic, uncool...

[Ravens1991]

is that under his armpit?

[ccB]

is that under his armpit?

Yeah you can see all the muscles on the inside, pretty sick I had no clue Randleman was injured. I just figured he gave fighting up after the loss to Shogun.

[Ravens1991]

yea I think he did retire, I remember watching his interiew and it said that he wont stop until he has a belt. But he wont get one unless he goes to a small org. He also had 9 surgeries in 10 months, I guess his body is breaking down due to roids.

[Rob S]

Yeah you can see all the muscles on the inside, pretty sick I had no clue Randleman was injured. I just figured he gave fighting up after the loss to Shogun.

the steroids are just killing him, he has been injured or sick all the time lately. pretty sad.

[Ravens1991]

yes he was a beast, I love how he did some amazing things to the top HWTs in Pride. (KO CC and Fedor Suplay)

[ccB]

http://fightlinker.com/?p=855#more-855

Live "Play by Play" of the Dana Whtie/Lorenzo Fertita press conference.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.mmafightline.com/news/2007/1030/306928.shtml

Randleman speaks about his brush with death.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/40/39737.jpg

props to whoever can gues who the guy on the bottom is.

[Nerv]

Thats Fedor almost getting subbed by a kimura from one of the worst JJ practitioners in MMA

[Ravens1991]

yep I didnt even know Hunt had a JJ move in him. Hunt is a beast and with Fedor out of the UFC he is my pick to take the belt.

[Ravens1991]

So who does everybody got in the Liddell VS. Wand fight?

At 1st I had Liddell due to his counter punching style, but after the Jardine fight who knows. Wand will come in like a bat out of hell which was made for Liddell style, but Chuck seems to be regressing. I hope Wand wins he is like the Ray Lewis of MMA(with his stare downs and the fear he puts into people).

[Nerv]

I cant pick against Wandy, he has been my man for years. Chuck keeps looking worse & worse out there so even though Wand is on a bit of a losing streak, hes lost to a lot better competition (including some HW's) than Chuck has.

War Silva!!!!!!!!

[ccB]

I say Wandy but I wouldn't be surprised to see Chuck catch him. You can never count Chuck out because all it takes is one of his punches to KYTFO.

[Ravens1991]

I cant pick against Wandy, he has been my man for years. Chuck keeps looking worse & worse out there so even though Wand is on a bit of a losing streak, hes lost to a lot better competition (including some HW's) than Chuck has.

War Silva!!!!!!!!

yea I dont see how people bash Wandy for losing to CC, he lost to the best MMA striker in his prime and unless you are Mark Hunt a human will go down by that head kick. Plus he had the flu against Hendo.

I would love a Rampage VS. Silva re-match if Silva wins.

How is Liddells Thai clinch?

[ccB]

yea I dont see how people bash Wandy for losing to CC, he lost to the best MMA striker in his prime and unless you are Mark Hunt a human will go down by that head kick. Plus he had the flu against Hendo.

I would love a Rampage VS. Silva re-match if Silva wins.

How is Liddells Thai clinch?

Lets get real here, It is not like Cro COp is some huge HW. Cro Cop is a LHW who refuses to fight at LHW. Wandy outweighed him in that fight and was a visibly bigger fighter. That fight was last year so how was Cro Cop in his prime then and not now. One year does not make that big of a difference. Also the best MMA striker is without a doubt Anderson Silva, Cro Cop may have the best left kick but hes not the best MMA striker.

[Ravens1991]

One year can make a difference, CC seems to be smaller now compared to this year, plus he got KO by the left kick, I meant to say that he has the best left kick that is almost unstoppable.

[Nerv]

Wandy wasnt bigger than Cro Cop in that fight, If I remember correctly when Wand would fight at HW he would be around 210 lbs (he isnt even big for a LHW, hes weighed in at under 205 for fights before). Cro Cop was always in the mid 220's.

I don't think Cro Cop could make 205 at all either, at 6'2 he is pretty cut, there isnt much weight to lose on his frame. He isnt like Vera who could pretty easily slim away his flab and fight at 205.

[Ravens1991]

I think CC could make it to 205 but he would have to cut out a ton of water.

[ccB]

Wandy wasnt bigger than Cro Cop in that fight, If I remember correctly when Wand would fight at HW he would be around 210-215. Cro Cop was always in the mid 220's.

I don't think Cro Cop could make 205 at all either, at 6'2 he is pretty cut, there isnt much weight to lose on his frame. He isnt like Vera who could pretty easily slim away his flab and fight at 205.


Cro Cop could easily make 205 and hes even acknowledged the fact that he could but doesnt want to cut any weight. After his recent 2 losses a lot of people are calling for Cro Cop to drop down to 205 because of the surplus of huge HW's in the UFC (Sylvia, Kongo, Gonzaga, Lesnar etc)

weigh in for the fight:
Wanderlei Silva (225.1 lbs.) vs. Mirko CroCop (220.9 lbs.)

[ccB]

yep I didnt even know Hunt had a JJ move in him. Hunt is a beast and with Fedor out of the UFC he is my pick to take the belt.

I think you are letting your personal appreciation for Hunt blind you a bit. He is a decent fighter, fringe top 10, definite top 15. I think a guy like Gonzaga could neutralize Hunt pretty handedly. The only way I see Hunt taking any title is if someone is stupid enough to try and bang with him. FWIW I have a sinking feeling that Tim "the sloth" Sylvia will be the Champ again. Its definitely between him and Nog IMO and I could easily see the trend of Pride fighters under performing show its face again in a fight between Nog and Tim.

[Ravens1991]

yes I admit that me being a fan of someone gets in the way of things, but I think he has good tools to do well at HWT, he has a rock hard chin and good strikes, his ground game needs major improvement, but if he is almost Kimuraing Fedor he is showing improvment but he could have caught Fedor.

[ccB]

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/02/ben-rothwell-opens-up/

Ben Rothwell with some interesting things to say about Matt Hughes.

[Man_Of_Steel]

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/11/02/ben-rothwell-opens-up/

Ben Rothwell with some interesting things to say about Matt Hughes.

Yea, Hughes is as Matt Serra would say, "an egomaniac".

[Man_Of_Steel]

BTW did anyone catch the ultimate fighter wednesday? The fight aside JRock does a pretty good impresssion on Serra.

[Ravens1991]

yes I loved his impression.

[ccB]

Todays Hot MMA Rumor Brought to you by the OG known as CCB:

Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua (16-3) vs Tito 'The Huntington Beach Bad Boy' Ortiz (15-5-1)

This has been todays hot MMA rumor...

[Man_Of_Steel]

Todays Hot MMA Rumor Brought to you by the OG known as CCB:

Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua (16-3) vs Tito 'The Huntington Beach Bad Boy' Ortiz (15-5-1)

This has been todays hot MMA rumor...

Go Tito. BTW UFC 78 has Joe Lauzon fighting off the card.

[ccB]

Go Tito. BTW UFC 78 has Joe Lauzon fighting off the card.

Main Card Bouts:
-Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping
-Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
-Spencer Fisher vs. Frankie Edgar
-Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
-David Terrell vs. Ed Herman

Preliminary Bouts:
-Thiago Alves vs. Chris Lytle
-Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory
-Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo
-Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt

Heres that card if you were curious what the rest of it looked like. A lot of people are bitching about the star power (or lack there of) on this card, but I am really digging it. Fisher vs Edgar should be a war, I am really excited about Chonan vs Parisyan as well. Alexander vs Silva should be a slug fest unless Silvas smart enough to take it to the ground. I am very excited to see David Terrell back on the main card I'd like to see him fight his way back into title contention. Even the undercard is pretty solid.

[Ravens1991]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/Sherk-not-stripped-Penn-Stevenson-for-interim-t?urn=mma,52159

Dana isn't stripping Sherk but they are having a interm title.


Shogun VS. Tito would be good, I got Shogun.

[fenikz]

I got Shogun demolishing Tito as it should be, I fully expect that he will actually train for this fight

[Man_Of_Steel]

Main Card Bouts:
-Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping
-Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
-Spencer Fisher vs. Frankie Edgar
-Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
-David Terrell vs. Ed Herman

Preliminary Bouts:
-Thiago Alves vs. Chris Lytle
-Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory
-Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo
-Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt

Heres that card if you were curious what the rest of it looked like. A lot of people are bitching about the star power (or lack there of) on this card, but I am really digging it. Fisher vs Edgar should be a war, I am really excited about Chonan vs Parisyan as well. Alexander vs Silva should be a slug fest unless Silvas smart enough to take it to the ground. I am very excited to see David Terrell back on the main card I'd like to see him fight his way back into title contention. Even the undercard is pretty solid.

The whole card is pretty solid. Finally we might get to see if Alexander has any ground skills since hes facing Silva. The lack of a true main event (both Evans and Bisping both should have lost their last fights) is what weighs this card down but all together I look at it and its pretty solid.

[MaxV]

I'm picking Shogun too.

[ccB]

The whole card is pretty solid. Finally we might get to see if Alexander has any ground skills since hes facing Silva. The lack of a true main event (both Evans and Bisping both should have lost their last fights) is what weighs this card down but all together I look at it and its pretty solid.

Silva should be leaps and bounds better than Alexander on the ground from training at Chute Boxe but he is a power puncher who loves the KO so I think he will keep it standing. I actually think as a whole Silva's striking is better than Alexanders but Alexander has the advantage in power. If Thiago can use Kicks to create distance and knees when clinched up I see him winning this one. Thiago is one of my favorite young fighters he has a ton of potential and IMO will be a champion one day. He reminds me of what would happen if Shogun and Wandy had a love child.

[Man_Of_Steel]

yes I loved his impression.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7jEGAkNsjNk

[UKfan]

Main Card Bouts:
-Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping
-Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan
-Spencer Fisher vs. Frankie Edgar
-Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva
-David Terrell vs. Ed Herman

Preliminary Bouts:
-Thiago Alves vs. Chris Lytle
-Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory
-Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo
-Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt

Heres that card if you were curious what the rest of it looked like. A lot of people are bitching about the star power (or lack there of) on this card, but I am really digging it. Fisher vs Edgar should be a war, I am really excited about Chonan vs Parisyan as well. Alexander vs Silva should be a slug fest unless Silvas smart enough to take it to the ground. I am very excited to see David Terrell back on the main card I'd like to see him fight his way back into title contention. Even the undercard is pretty solid.

Bolded = fight of the night, I'm calling it.

[fenikz]

ya there should be some full out brawls on that card

[ccB]

Bolded = fight of the night, I'm calling it.

Im with ya. There are a few FOTN candidates on this card, Terrell vs Herman could be one, Silva vs Alexander, Evans vs Bisping could be one too since the fight has title implications both guys should be trying extra hard. Heck any main card fight I could see being Fight of the night.

[UKfan]

I really don't see Bisping beating Evans, stand up is pretty even, maybe a slight edge to Mike, but if Evans has any sense, he'll shoot in and LnP or GnP Bisping for 15 mins as Mike's wrestling unfortunately isn't up to par.

[ccB]

I just ordered this...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7zBMOkY-zU

Looks really cool goes inside the training camp of team quest, when Sokoudjou was training for LIl Nog and Hendo was training for Wandy. You also get to see the Brazilian Top Team train.

[Ravens1991]

that looks like a good movie, it seems like it shows a side of MMA that isnt really know.

[Ravens1991]

I just saw on a best buy add, $5-$10 off all UFC and Pride products instantly. It had pictures of UFC 71 for $10, and Randy VS. Chuck trilogy for $30

[Ravens1991]

I just got

Liddell VS. Couture The trilogy (UFC 43,52,57) ($19.99)
Pride fighting legacy volume 4 (pride 17,18,20,21,22)($.14.99)
Pride Grand Prix 2003($19.99)

That is $85 worth of stuff for $55. I got it at best buy.

[gbpackers0065]

I thought Pride GP was only available for a Japanese system.

[Ravens1991]

no they had GP 2000 there also.

[gbpackers0065]

Really, I gotta go check then cause I wanna have a Pride game and then get the new UFC one when it comes out...

[Ravens1991]

o this isnt a video game, it is DVD.

I am pumped for the new UFC game also, isnt it suppossed to come out this summer?

[gbpackers0065]

There is a Pride GP video game as well that was actually a good MMA video game but it is only available for a Japanese system. I have UFC 68 on DVD and UFC 45, both are great.

[Ravens1991]

yea I was looking for that pride video game. Who is on UFC 45, I know 68 is the classic Couture VS. Sylvia fight.

[gbpackers0065]

UFC 45 has:
Hughes Vs. Trigg
Lindland Vs. Vitale
Abbott Vs. Correira
Tanner Vs. Baroni
and a couple of other good fights

[Ravens1991]

if i make a MMA draft with 6 teams would anybody be down?

[gbpackers0065]

yes, im like ccb i can participate in em i just cant run em

[Ravens1991]

k I will get it set up tonight I am really supposed to be doing HW right now.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=709438#post709438

please join I will do my best to get it running.

[Ravens1991]

Shamrock sues UFC

http://www.mmafightline.com/news/2007/112/ken_shamrock_307168.shtml

[Ravens1991]

word is Lesnar VS. Mir UFC 81

[UKfan]

Yeah Mir vs Lesnar has been announced on UFC.com, also Joe Stevenson vs BJ Penn for the title at UFC 80 as well

[Man_Of_Steel]

word is Lesnar VS. Mir UFC 81

Ahhhh, what months that in.

[Nerv]

Ahhhh, what months that in.

February.

Also the UFC game isnt due out this summer, its still a ways off I believe. They just started it at the beginning of 07, the constantly changing UFC roster is probably a ***** for the programmers as well.

[Man_Of_Steel]

February.

Also the UFC game isnt due out this summer, its still a ways off I believe. They just started it at the beginning of 07, the constantly changing UFC roster is probably a ***** for the programmers as well.

I think the game is scheduled for a Q4 release so it should be out late next year.

[ccB]

Yeah Mir vs Lesnar has been announced on UFC.com, also Joe Stevenson vs BJ Penn for the title at UFC 80 as well

For the interim title, the winner still has to fight Sean Sherk ASSUMING Sherk gets through his hearings. It seems like Dana doesn't care either way if Sherk tested positive or not, I sense some favoritism towards Sherk.

[Ravens1991]

I think Dana said he was fed up with the whole process so he is giving Sherk benefit of the doubt.

[Ravens1991]

Silva considers going to 205

http://mmamania.com/2007/11/06/ufc-quick-quote-the-spider-at-205/

[ccB]

Silva considers going to 205

http://mmamania.com/2007/11/06/ufc-quick-quote-the-spider-at-205/

I read about this on Sherdog, I think its a dumb move for Silva. Any 205 fighter with decent take downs will slam Anderson down and hold him there. Rampage vs Silva would not go good for Silva IMO.

[gbpackers0065]

BJ submits Stevenson round 1. If it goes more than 3 Stevenson will win.

[ccB]

BJ submits Stevenson round 1. If it goes more than 3 Stevenson will win.

Thats the smart bet for any BJ Penn fight. 1-2 hes the favorite round 3 is usually even, 4-5 are favored to his opponent. Thats why its so frustrating to be a BJ Penn fan, its obvious the guy has one of, if not the most impressive skill set he just eats too much poi before fights. I have hope that his conditioning will be up to par now that he has to make 155.

[ccB]

On a side note, I see people talking about MMA DVD's that sale at best buy has been bad ass. I bought the 5 disc set that I believe is pride 22-28 for 15 bucks. Rounds out to a nice 3 bucks per dvd and also includes great fights such as Fedor vs Nog, Rampage vs Randleman, Dan Henderson vs Nog, Wandy vs Rampage, Anderson Silva vs Newton, so on and so on.

The sale was so nice I went back before school and bought 2 more dvds for like 5 bucks each. I have Bushido 5 and Shockwave 2005. I am dying to get home and watch them, Shockwave contains Henderson vs Bustamante, Gomi vs Sakurai, Arona vs Wandy, Cro Cop vs Hunt and theres even a giant silva sighting! My goal is to get every Pride event on DVD.

[Ravens1991]

you will enjoy Shockwave 2005.

I got that Fedor VS. Nog and Rampage Randleman DVD and that is a great one. I love that sale I wanna get back there before it ends.

Post who you thought should have won some of the pride fights on shockwave 2005, I dont wanna spoil it but I was surprised with the results.

[fenikz]

I think BJ is the most overrated fighter in MMA, but I can't see him losing to Stevenson

[jayceheathman]

I read about this on Sherdog, I think its a dumb move for Silva. Any 205 fighter with decent take downs will slam Anderson down and hold him there. Rampage vs Silva would not go good for Silva IMO.

Rampage is unstoppable. He is just too big and too quick. I would love to see that fight although Rampage Jackson would destroy Silva.

I cant wait to see how Lesnar does in UFC 81. He diffinitely has the potential but how good is he at martial arts? I know he is a great wrestler from his days at Minnesotta.

[fenikz]

Striking - Silva
BBJ - Silva
Wrestling - Rampage
Strength - Rampage

I got Silva winning via knees to the face

[ccB]

Striking - Silva
BBJ - Silva
Wrestling - Rampage
Strength - Rampage

I got Silva winning via knees to the face

Its a match that Silva could win, he has length and probably the best striking in MMA but if Rampage came in to the fight with the right game plan, using his strengths against Silvas weakness' he would win more times than he'd lose.

[Ravens1991]

yep I gotta agree with CCBG, with working out in training I think Silva comes in at 195-200, Rampage through cutting weight and refueling would come in at around 215-220(just estimates for both guys) I think Rampage wins.

I would like to see Anderson VS. Wand, both have black belts in BJJ but prefer to stand and strike.

[fenikz]

Silva said his natural weight was 97 Kg which is 213 pounds, so right now he is cutting 27 pounds to fight in MW, I'd bet that rampage is about 230 and then cuts down 25 pounds to fight in HW so it's pretty even their

The main reason i'd bet on Silva is that the last time Rampage fought someone like him(BBJ guy with great striking) was Shogun and he got destroyed

[Ravens1991]

true but him and Shogun were the same size, Rampage is bigger then Anderson.

[fenikz]

of course all if this i mainly speculation and Silva probably won't even move up to 205

[Ravens1991]

I hope he does, other then Dan Henderson he doesnt have any competition at 185, unless St.Pierre or someone moves up for a fight.

[ccB]

Well I remember reading something about GSP wanting to move up to MW when he was WW champ to get both belts. GSP vs Anderson Silva would probably be at the very top of my dream matches.

[Ravens1991]

I got Silva winning that one, he has better reach and better striking.

[ccB]

I got Silva winning that one, he has better reach and better striking.

I refuse to pick, I'd just sit back and enjoy whatever happened.

[fenikz]

Ya I got Silva in that fight too, but you never know it would be an insane fight

Who is GSP supposed to fight next? the winner of Hughes and Serra?

[Ravens1991]

I am preety sure the winner of Hughes VS. Serra.

[ccB]

Yup, hes #1 contender right now. I do not know if this has been mentioned but the UFC is giving Randy Couture the option of fighting Big Nog for the title and if he sticks to his resignation then Nog and Sylvia will fight for the vacated title.

[fenikz]

Damn that seems like such a long time in between fights for him, he last fight was about 2 months ago we got 2 more months until Serra vs Hughes and then it will probably be another 3-4 months until GSP fights the winner

[ccB]

Damn that seems like such a long time in between fights for him, he last fight was about 2 months ago we got 2 more months until Serra vs Hughes and then it will probably be another 3-4 months until GSP fights the winner

Well look at how long it has been since Serra fought. His last fight was against GSP in like February or March.

[Ravens1991]

Yup, hes #1 contender right now. I do not know if this has been mentioned but the UFC is giving Randy Couture the option of fighting Big Nog for the title and if he sticks to his resignation then Nog and Sylvia will fight for the vacated title.

I think Nog could take Sylvia, I would like to see Randy in the octagon for one last time against a good HWT.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.punchdrunkgamer.com/KR4.jpg

Randleman is healing up well I hope he can make another go even if it is at a smaller org.

[Ravens1991]

Is anybody getting the EX fight card w/ Kimbo and Diaz tommorow?

[ccB]

Is anybody getting the EX fight card w/ Kimbo and Diaz tommorow?

I'll be watching, there are 4 fights on there I am looking forward to seeing. Kimbo vs Cantrell, Diaz vs Noons, Shields vs Pyle and Antonio Silva vs I forget.

[fenikz]

isn't EXC on like showtime or something?

[ccB]

isn't EXC on like showtime or something?

Yes it is.

[Ravens1991]

yea I wanna see how Kimbo does against a real MMA fighter. Plus Diaz is always fun to watch.

[gbpackers0065]

I have my next fight on Monday, this guy is 4-0-0, so I'm screwed lol.

[Ravens1991]

dont think like that, Forrest didnt think like that against Shogun and look what happened.

[Man_Of_Steel]

dont think like that, Forrest didnt think like that against Shogun and look what happened.

Dont listen to him, you will lose and you will accept it.

[Ravens1991]

Kimbo beat his opponent in 19 seconds, I guess he is starting to look like he belongs in MMA.

[Ravens1991]

wow Diaz got destroyed and the fight stopped after the 1st due to bad cuts above his eyes. Diaz left the ring pissed and fliped the bird as he walked out. I am a fan of Diaz and that sucks for him.

[JF4]

Kimbo beat his opponent in 19 seconds, I guess he is starting to look like he belongs in MMA.

Bo Cantrell is one of the biggest cans i've ever seen fight. He looked beat before he got in the octogan.

[ccB]

Bo Cantrell is one of the biggest cans i've ever seen fight. He looked beat before he got in the octogan.

He look like he either was scared shitless or threw the fight. That punch he got hit with was hardly vicious enough to merit such an immediate tap out.

[soybean]

that was one of the worst fights i've ever seen.

[Ravens1991]

yea I really want Tank to fight Kimbo, I just wanna see Kimbo fight someone who will definetly at least connect on a punch. I remember I think on a yahoo list of 10 most feared MMA fights he made it, he hasn't fought a challenge yet.

[Ravens1991]

I was thinking if Diaz was getting destroyed standing why didnt he pull guard? He has very effective BJJ skills but got dominated in standing.

[Rob S]

I was thinking if Diaz was getting destroyed standing why didnt he pull guard? He has very effective BJJ skills but got dominated in standing.

because diaz is stubborn as hell and would rather stand and take a beating.

[gbpackers0065]

Here is the official "Tale of the Tape" for my fight tonight:
Me:
Record-1-0-0
Age-26
Height-6'9"
Weight-260
Reach-7'1"
Report-Reach and upper body strength make his striking superb, good off his back and can go five rounds. His legs are open targets and cannot always finish the job on the ground.

My Opponent:
Record-4-0-0
Age-29
Height-6'7"
Weight-250
Reach-6'8"
Report-Very experienced fighter with good ground skills(former college wrestler) has KO'd guys as big as me before. Striking will pale in comparison to mine so I'll try to keep it standing up.

[Ravens1991]

you end up against some big dudes, is your takedown defense good?

[JF4]

Here is the official "Tale of the Tape" for my fight tonight:
Me:
Record-1-0-0
Age-26
Height-6'9"
Weight-260
Reach-7'1"
Report-Reach and upper body strength make his striking superb, good off his back and can go five rounds. His legs are open targets and cannot always finish the job on the ground.

My Opponent:
Record-4-0-0
Age-29
Height-6'7"
Weight-250
Reach-6'8"
Report-Very experienced fighter with good ground skills(former college wrestler) has KO'd guys as big as me before. Striking will pale in comparison to mine so I'll try to keep it standing up.

You're 6'9''?!? Damn son.

[gbpackers0065]

you end up against some big dudes, is your takedown defense good?

If he gets to my knees I'll have a problem stopping him if he's tries anything else i think i can get away.

[gbpackers0065]

I'm leaving now, wish me luck!

[UKfan]

Good luck man,

Did anyone see the fight in TUF this week? I thought Tommy was done early on, but fair play to him he came back and dominated.

[Ravens1991]

http://hacnews.com/sokinterview.html

Sokojduo wants to face Fedor and Rampage, and said he will be in the cage december 29th, this guy has great potential.

[Man_Of_Steel]

Did anyone see the fight in TUF this week? I thought Tommy was done early on, but fair play to him he came back and dominated.

As dominate as warmachine was early with the chokes the farmboy just was overwhelming in mount. Great great fight.

[ccB]

Sokoudjou to the UFC? I think its pretty unbelievable he'd have a deal signed and ready to fight by Dec. I think Sokoudjou is the future of MMA hes only like 23 or 24 he has amazing Judo, Dynamite in his hands, and trains with the likes of Dan Henderson. Whats not to love? Give Soko 2 fights in the UFC and Soko> Rampage. Styles make matchups and I think Sokoudjou is not the type of fighter Rampage wants to fight.

[fenikz]

Soko vs Alexander would be pretty sweet and it would sure as hell make that December card better

[ccB]

Soko vs Alexander would be pretty sweet and it would sure as hell make that December card better

Alexander is fighting Thiago Silva (chute boxe) later this month so he would not be on that card. For the record I have Thiago winning. I do not buy into the Alexander hype, it seems like if the fight goes past the 2 minute mark he is doomed. In the Sakara fight he was pretty gassed and the first round wasn't even half over yet.

[fenikz]

Soko vs Henderson then

now that is a fight I want to see, if Soko wins he is deff legit and needs a title shot asap

[ccB]

Soko vs Henderson then

now that is a fight I want to see, if Soko wins he is deff legit and needs a title shot asap

They are training partners, so again highly unlikely. Henderson is like a mentor to Soko. I think if hes on that card it will be against a Stephan Bonner/Matt Hamill caliber fighter either that or they will just announce his signing and he will not fight.

[fenikz]

your ruining my hopes and dreams, i just wanna see soko fight on the 29th

[ccB]

I think the best matchup from a talent standpoint that we could see would be Sokoudjou vs Machida. He is the only LHW I can think of that would be ready to fight by than. IMO its a bad fight for Soko, I think Machida is a legitimate top 10 LHW if not top 5. He is so methodical with the way he fights it could throw Sokoudjou's wildness off. The fight I'd like to see is Shogun vs Soko but I doubt this will happen because I'd imagine the UFC would be trying to get Shogun to get some wins under his belt. I am sure they are paying him a **** load and him losing is a bad investment for them.

[Ravens1991]

Soko is a dangerous dude, if he fights Alexander it wont last 1 minute.

I think he will be amazing, he can bench around 500 pounds and fought animals in the wild. The guy is a freak.

[Ravens1991]

I just read Lyoto Machida VS. Soko will be announced within the next couple of days. I saw it off the sherdog message boards.

[ccB]

Wow looks like my prediction of who he'd fight was a good one. Thats gonna be a great fight if the rumors true. These guys are definitely 2 of my favorite fighters at 205, or any division for that matter.

[fenikz]

This fight could go either way, I'll be pulling for Soko via KO but Machida has a good shot at winning

[gbpackers0065]

Yea, I lost he got a rear-naked-choke on me in the 2nd round and of course I didn't tap so I got "KO'd"

[soybean]

Yea, I lost he got a rear-naked-choke on me in the 2nd round and of course I didn't tap so I got "KO'd"

damn that sucks. It seems like RnC is always the way things end for amateurs. how long did it last?

[Ravens1991]

Yea, I lost he got a rear-naked-choke on me in the 2nd round and of course I didn't tap so I got "KO'd"

That sucks how was your striking? Also do you train at a MMA school?

[gbpackers0065]

That sucks how was your striking? Also do you train at a MMA school?

My Striking was good but he went for my knees and I couldn't do **** about it. I fought him off in round 1 but then caught me with my chin up and sunk his arm in. I train twice a week at a Martial Arts Academy just as a hobby really.

damn that sucks. It seems like RnC is always the way things end for amateurs. how long did it last?
its funny you say that because thats how i won my last fight and we went 1:08 into the second.

[Ravens1991]

so you out striked him? keep working on takedown defense and study the signs of when a takedown will be attempted. Also do you know how to roll out of backmount?

[gbpackers0065]

so you out striked him? keep working on takedown defense and study the signs of when a takedown will be attempted. Also do you know how to roll out of backmount?

I definitely outstriked him, my body is just terrible for takedown defense because of my extremely long legs. I tried to roll out of this guy when i did i left my arm out he grabbed it and almost kimura'd me.

[Ravens1991]

you might wanna lower your stance a bit kinda like a wrestling stance. Did he have boots in? You could have hit a tri-pod.

[Nerv]

If you can get a sprawl in on a standard single or double leg shot with long legs it makes it very quick & easy to transition into rear mount.

Work on that sprawl my friend, remember one forearm on the back of his neck one on his back pushing him down and away as your legs sprawl back. Then just swing your legs around and try work in the hooks or a body triangle of some sort and you're so money.

[gbpackers0065]

I tried to work a triangle, didn't work out too good... Thanks for the advice guys

[Ravens1991]

a good way after you sprawl to stop him driving into you is to put your hands onto his thighs. It will make it a lot tougher on him to finish. Then push off his this and you got a front headlock or guilitone.

[Ravens1991]

Is it just me or is Kimbo starting to get extremly over hyped? I dont really get all this Kimbo hype, he beat up a couple of bums off the street and now people act like he will be able to take the MMA by storm. I will go out on a limb and say every single HWT fighter in the UFC could KO the bums Kimbo fought in under a minute. Then he gets into MMA and he beats up a 47 year old man and a can that probably didnt try his hardest. I guess him having the bad street fighter from the hood persona around him really helps his marketing.

[Ravens1991]

http://thefightinglife.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/nick-diaz-looking-for-a-good-plastic-surgeon/

Diaz gets plastic surgery

[UKfan]

http://thefightinglife.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/nick-diaz-looking-for-a-good-plastic-surgeon/

Diaz gets plastic surgery

If the cuts were really bad then it's a wise move, Ricky Hatton has had it done a couple of times and if anything he doesn't cut up as bad now as he did before as the scar tissue gets cleaned out I believe.

[ccB]

Without the cuts I believe Nick would have came back and made a fight out of it, it was a 5 round fight, he has amazing cardio, and is notorious for starting out slow and coming on strong late. Maybe this will lead him to learn to not just throw a band aid of a gash and let it heal that way.

[Ravens1991]

yea I think that Diaz has great potential.


Who do you all think the fighter of the year is?

I think it is between Rampage and Anderson Silva with Rampage winning.

[UKfan]

yea I think that Diaz has great potential.


Who do you all think the fighter of the year is?

I think it is between Rampage and Anderson Silva with Rampage winning.

Anderson for me, and it's not close.

[fenikz]

It will probably go to Rampage because his wins seems bigger, but Silva was by far the most dominant this year.

[Ravens1991]

How bout fight of the year? I have my money on Couture VS. Sylvia.

[Man_Of_Steel]

yea I think that Diaz has great potential.


Who do you all think the fighter of the year is?

I think it is between Rampage and Anderson Silva with Rampage winning.

Rampage. He has been in arguably the two biggest fights of the year as well as the most anticipated fight. He hold sthe most popular divisional belt and is a very marketable guy for UFC.

[Man_Of_Steel]

How bout fight of the year? I have my money on Couture VS. Sylvia.

Huerta vs _____, I forget the guys name but he was mexican or something, anyway that was a fullout fight.

[UKfan]

Edgar vs Griffin, and Guida vs Griffin, both were great fights IMO

[Ravens1991]

http://www.mmafightline.com/news/2007/1114/chuck_the_iceman_liddell_308204.shtml

Chuck is training with Fhilo.

perhaps we see more ground game outta Chuck, he was a decent D-1 wrestler so I think he can work TDs.

[ccB]

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=8674

Sokoudjou vs Machida has been confirmed

This fight will take place on the same card as Serra vs Hughes and Liddell vs Silva. Pretty amazing card IMO. I think Machida can win this one but I could easily see Theirry winning it as well. These are two of my favorite fighters so I will not make any official predictions. I am just going to sit back and enjoy.

[Rob S]

New Shogun interview, very professional and I see him bouncing back well.

MMA Madness Q&A: One-on-one with Mauricio "Shogun" Rua

Mauricio “Shogun” Rua joined the UFC this summer after an illustrious career with PRIDE. His first match in the Octagon didn’t go as planned, however, as Rua succumbed to Forrest Griffin. MMA Madness’ Ben Zeidler caught up with Rua to see how he is doing. Here are highlights of the email interview.

MMA Madness: How is married life working out?

Rua: It's ok. I'm moving [to] a new home -- an apartment here in Curitiba. There are a lot of things to arrange but I think that [by] Christmas I will be in my new home. Now that I am recovering from the surgery and not training it is good to use my free time to [over]see everything about my new home.

MMA Madness: Can you tell us a little bit about the Forrest Griffin fight? Was he what you prepared for?

Rua: I don´t like to give excuses -- I lost and that's it, period. Nothing went right. I assume this -- the injury -- interfered in my training, in [especially] the kicks and [with running]. I had a lot of new things in my life: [a] wedding and a new home. But no problem, let´s move ahead. I don´t want to talk about the past, let´s see what is coming next. I'm very young and I know that I can get the UFC belt in the future. I will be back better than ever. All the fighters can follow [their] opponents, with the internet and the show[s] on TV. We can see the skills of our opponents -- Forrest was very well trained [and] I respect that.

MMA Madness: How much did the hurt knee affect your ability to train and compete at your top level?

Rua: We are living a very professional moment in MMA [so] the difference between the fighters is very small. [It] was difficult to run and to kick with my injury and when you have some injury your confidence is not the same -- every time you are concern[ed] about it.

MMA Madness: Do you think that you would train differently if you ever got the chance to fight him again?

Rua: For sure, probably in the future we will fight again. Now I'm thinking [about] my [recovery and] go[ing] back to train[ing] and let's see what's happen in the future.

MMA Madness: Would you be interested in a rematch with Griffin in the future or are you looking ahead to Rampage Jackson?

Rua: I had the promise from UFC that with a victory against Forrest I would have a shot for the belt that actually is with Rampage. Unfortunately I lost [so it’s] necessary to review all the plans and I know that I will need to make a new journey for the belt.

MMA Madness: What's been happening with Rampage? He got beat up bad by you and by Wanderlei Silva in PRIDE and now he looks like a different fighter. Would you expect a fight with him to go the same way as it did before?

Rua: Life is funny, no? Quinton Jackson comes to UFC after three terrible defeats in PRIDE ([losing to] me [once] and Wanderlei twice). Now, he has the UFC belt. I think that he has more experience now. After the victory against Liddell he is very confident and [it] is difficult to guarantee that one fight will be the same [as] an old one -- every fight is totally different from [the] other[s].

MMA Madness: I was talking to “Big” John McCarthy not too long ago, and he said that PRIDE and UFC were very different due to the ring size. He said that he noticed that you were having trouble getting to Forrest because of the different angles of the UFC cage. However, when I talked to your brother Murilo, he said that whether it's in a ring or a cage doesn't matter. Who do you agree with here?

Rua: Yes, in the cage the fight is more aggressive -- there [are] no corners to give a break, but I already fought in the cage [so it’s] no problem. My defeat doesn't have any thing [to do] with the cage or ring.

MMA Madness: Why do you think that PRIDE fighters are having such a tough time with UFC fighters?

Rua: [It] is just a coincidence. Just see Rampage -- he has the belt now. Do you think that he is having [a] tough time in UFC?

MMA Madness: Do you prefer fighting in PRIDE or UFC?

Rua: No preference.

MMA Madness: You've defeated most of the top 205-pounders. Which win was the biggest?

Rua: No one [is] the biggest, but there are some very important [wins] in my career. [My victory] against Minotauro [Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira] was very tough; [my win] against Rampage was very important in that moment; and for sure [my win] against [Ricardo] Arona when I won PRIDE Grand Prix.

MMA Madness: Where do you rank yourself among the 205-pounders?

Rua: I run to be the number one. I want to be with the tops and fight against them.

MMA Madness: Are there any fighters out there you'd like to fight?

Rua: No preference. I never choose opponents. Now that I lost, I can't think about [that]. I must fight and prove that I can have [the] UFC belt, no matter against whom.

MMA Madness: Would you fight Wanderlei if he had the belt?

Editor’s note: Shogun did not respond to this question.

MMA Madness: Who do you think will win the following fight: Murilo "Ninja" Rua vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam?

Rua: Ninja for sure. He's training hard; he wants a lot the Cage Rage belt; [and] he deserves it.

MMA Madness: Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva?

Rua: Very tough fight. Both are very aggressive and [both are] strikers. I just know that this fight will finish before the second round.

MMA Madness: "Shogun" Rua vs. Forrest Griffin II?

Rua: I want to be back in better shape, well prepared, and I know that I can beat him.

[Rob S]

FOTY= Gomi vs Diaz hands down, no?

[ccB]

FOTY= Gomi vs Diaz hands down, no?

That would get my vote for sure. Possibly my favorite fight of all time.

[Rob S]

http://www.mmafightline.com/news/2007/1114/chuck_the_iceman_liddell_308204.shtml

Chuck is training with Fhilo.

perhaps we see more ground game outta Chuck, he was a decent D-1 wrestler so I think he can work TDs.

I doubt we see chuck shoot in for a takedown, especially considering Silva has pretty decent submission skills, certainly much better than chuck's on the ground.

[UKfan]

FOTY= Gomi vs Diaz hands down, no?

I really enjoyed the Edgar v Griffin fight, but that was good also, possibly a tie for me.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.sokoudjou.com/

There are sokoudjou fights, he is the most talented fighter in 205 and is 23. Watch the Nog fight, that left was so quick I had 2 replay it a couple of times to see it. and Nog is a Brazilian boxing champion. He showed good takedown defense against Arona who is a great wrestler.

[ccB]

CCBG's UFC 78 Predictions


MAIN EVENT
Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping

I think this fight is Rashads for the taking. If he fights the smart fight theres no way I cannot see him winning this. He needs to take Bisping down and GNP him. He must be careful though because Bisping is slick with the BJJ so I hope Evans has been training his submission defense. If Evans chooses to stand with Bisping hes a fool IMO and I could see Bisping knocking him silly.

Prediction: Rashad Evans by Unanimous decision


MAIN CARD
Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan

I beg everyone, Do not, I repeat DO NOT sleep on Ryo Chonan. This should be a back and fourth fight in which I could see either fighter coming away with the win. Chonan is very well rounded, hes sick with the subs and I'd give him the edge in the stand up as well. With this said if Karo can throw him on his head a couple times and control him from the top he should get the decision.

Prediction: Karo Parisyan by Unanimous Decision

Spencer Fisher vs. Frankie Edgar

We have all heard it, "this fight has fight of the night written all over it" and its true. This is the fight I most look forward to, both of these fighters are in one word, relentless. There will be no giving up in this fight, look for everything from battles striking, to smooth transitions and battles for position on the ground. Spencer Fisher is a proven commodity in the UFC but I am riding Edgars bandwagon hard and I think he is the future of the UFC LW division and guess what, the future is now.

Prediction: Edgar by split decision

Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva

Ah finally a break in the decisions. I do not see anyway this fight goes to the judges. Alexander is a powerful boxer who is devastating in the clinch. If he can tangle up Silva in the clinch and dirty box him Thiago will have a long short night, if that makes sense. Thiago could easily dominate this fight if he does not get baited into Alexanders game. He cannot afford to stand close and trade shots with Alexander because he will get KTFO. The keys to this fight for Silva is he needs to use his length to keep Alexander at a distance, he needs to get the fight to the ground ASAP and use his BJJ to win the fight for him. Silva's BJJ is leagues better than Alexanders ground game and his cardio should be far superior as well (check out how tired Alexander was in the Sakara fight) If this fight gets past the 1st round its SIlvas for the taking, though I am not positive if Alexander will let him out of the first round. I am going to go with the mini upset here...

Prediction: Silva via Submission (rear naked choke) 2nd Round

Joe Doerksen vs. Ed Herman

Joe Doerksen is a very underrated fighter. He is slick with submissions and a veteran having faced some tough opponents. I like Ed Herman and I think should come out fired up in an attempt to avenge his previous loss to Joe Doerksen, However I just do not see it happening.

Prediction: Joe Doerksen via Submission (Triangle Choke) 3rd round

Preliminary Bouts:

Thiago Alves vs. Chris Lytle

Thiago Alves is a beast, I love his potential and I think he is a future contender in the WW division. He reminds me of a mini Wandy, which it was not surprising to find out he has modeled his game after Silva. Lytle is a tough mother ****** and I think his gameplan will be to come in and use counter punches to try and pick apart Alves. I think Alves wider variety of weapons will overcome Lytle. I look for Alves to use leg kicks to pick apart Lytle the same way he did in his last fight. I think Lytle is too tough to finish off but I see this going in favor of Alves

Prediction: Thiago Alves via Unanimous Decision

Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory

I am sad this is on the under card because I look forward to Gono's extravagent entrances. I think the move down to WW will help Gono out, I think his expirence willl be the difference maker in this fight against the younger inexperienced McCrory who I think is a great prospect but this fight will be a small blemish on his record.

Prediction: Gono via TKO 3rd round

Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

I do not know much about Caudillo, so I wont act like I do, think the Pride veteran Aurelio can take this one.

Prediction Aurelio via submission (rear naked choke)

Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt

Everything in this fight points to Joe Lauzon winning, He is superior in almost every category and he has moved to Hilo and has been training with BJ Penn so I really see no way how he cannot beat the less expirenced (and almost 15 years older) Jason Reinhardt

Prediction: This will stop in the 1st round some way or another via Sub, KO, Decapitation, something.

[ccB]

Also tonight, is the strikeforce card, seems like an amusing card to me. I believe its being aired free on Yahoo Sports.

-Cung Le vs. Sam Morgan:

There is no doubting Le's stand up abilities but there is a lot of doubting of everything else. Sam Morgan is a TUF can and shouldnt present a problem.

Cung Le via KO round 1

-Paul Buentello vs. Alistair Overeem:

Overeem is one of my personal favorites and I'd like to see him get back on track but Buentello is an underrated HW and he can over power the demolition man. Im going with my heart on this one over my brain (which thinks Buentello will knock Overeem silly)

Overeem via KO

-Bobby Southworth vs. Anthony Ruiz

Not much to say here, Southworth keeps the belt.

Southworth via TKO

4-Man Middleweight Tournament
-Falaniko Vitale vs -Trevor Prangley

I feel Prangley is head and shoulders above the rest of this group of fighters, i think he starts his quest by TKO of Vitale via GNP

-Jorge Santiago vs Yuki Sasaki

I like Santiago in this one, he trains one of the best camps in MMA and he is versed submission artist with underrated striking ability. He has recently secured a win over Jeremy Horn via submission which is not easy to do.

Jorge Santiago via KO round 2

Jorge Santiago vs Trevor Prangley

Again I think Trevor is far superior to this group of guys, but I think if anyone knocks him off it will be Santiago. I think Santiagos only chance of winning comes if Prangley takes him down and Santiago can pull a submission from the guard.

I'll take Trevor Prangley via Unanimous decision

[fenikz]

what time is strikeforce on?

[Man_Of_Steel]

CCBG's UFC 78 Predictions


MAIN EVENT
Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping

I think this fight is Rashads for the taking. If he fights the smart fight theres no way I cannot see him winning this. He needs to take Bisping down and GNP him. He must be careful though because Bisping is slick with the BJJ so I hope Evans has been training his submission defense. If Evans chooses to stand with Bisping hes a fool IMO and I could see Bisping knocking him silly.

Prediction: Rashad Evans by Unanimous decision


MAIN CARD
Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan

I beg everyone, Do not, I repeat DO NOT sleep on Ryo Chonan. This should be a back and fourth fight in which I could see either fighter coming away with the win. Chonan is very well rounded, hes sick with the subs and I'd give him the edge in the stand up as well. With this said if Karo can throw him on his head a couple times and control him from the top he should get the decision.

Prediction: Karo Parisyan by Unanimous Decision

Spencer Fisher vs. Frankie Edgar

We have all heard it, "this fight has fight of the night written all over it" and its true. This is the fight I most look forward to, both of these fighters are in one word, relentless. There will be no giving up in this fight, look for everything from battles striking, to smooth transitions and battles for position on the ground. Spencer Fisher is a proven commodity in the UFC but I am riding Edgars bandwagon hard and I think he is the future of the UFC LW division and guess what, the future is now.

Prediction: Edgar by split decision

Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva

Ah finally a break in the decisions. I do not see anyway this fight goes to the judges. Alexander is a powerful boxer who is devastating in the clinch. If he can tangle up Silva in the clinch and dirty box him Thiago will have a long short night, if that makes sense. Thiago could easily dominate this fight if he does not get baited into Alexanders game. He cannot afford to stand close and trade shots with Alexander because he will get KTFO. The keys to this fight for Silva is he needs to use his length to keep Alexander at a distance, he needs to get the fight to the ground ASAP and use his BJJ to win the fight for him. Silva's BJJ is leagues better than Alexanders ground game and his cardio should be far superior as well (check out how tired Alexander was in the Sakara fight) If this fight gets past the 1st round its SIlvas for the taking, though I am not positive if Alexander will let him out of the first round. I am going to go with the mini upset here...

Prediction: Silva via Submission (rear naked choke) 2nd Round

Joe Doerksen vs. Ed Herman

Joe Doerksen is a very underrated fighter. He is slick with submissions and a veteran having faced some tough opponents. I like Ed Herman and I think should come out fired up in an attempt to avenge his previous loss to Joe Doerksen, However I just do not see it happening.

Prediction: Joe Doerksen via Submission (Triangle Choke) 3rd round

Preliminary Bouts:

Thiago Alves vs. Chris Lytle

Thiago Alves is a beast, I love his potential and I think he is a future contender in the WW division. He reminds me of a mini Wandy, which it was not surprising to find out he has modeled his game after Silva. Lytle is a tough mother ****** and I think his gameplan will be to come in and use counter punches to try and pick apart Alves. I think Alves wider variety of weapons will overcome Lytle. I look for Alves to use leg kicks to pick apart Lytle the same way he did in his last fight. I think Lytle is too tough to finish off but I see this going in favor of Alves

Prediction: Thiago Alves via Unanimous Decision

Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory

I am sad this is on the under card because I look forward to Gono's extravagent entrances. I think the move down to WW will help Gono out, I think his expirence willl be the difference maker in this fight against the younger inexperienced McCrory who I think is a great prospect but this fight will be a small blemish on his record.

Prediction: Gono via TKO 3rd round

Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

I do not know much about Caudillo, so I wont act like I do, think the Pride veteran Aurelio can take this one.

Prediction Aurelio via submission (rear naked choke)

Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt

Everything in this fight points to Joe Lauzon winning, He is superior in almost every category and he has moved to Hilo and has been training with BJ Penn so I really see no way how he cannot beat the less expirenced (and almost 15 years older) Jason Reinhardt

Prediction: This will stop in the 1st round some way or another via Sub, KO, Decapitation, something.

Thats quite a post CCB, maybe instead of being team leader you should be off-topic MMA leader, just a thought. Anyway Im pretty stoked as well, my Dad's birthday tommorow so carrott cake and ufc, I like carrott cake...alot.
Anyway Ill give my predictions in a less time consuming manner.

Rashad Evans vs. Michael Bisping

Karo Parisyan vs. Ryo Chonan

Spencer Fisher vs. Frankie Edgar

Houston Alexander vs. Thiago Silva

Joe Doerksen vs. Ed Herman

Thiago Alves vs. Chris Lytle

Akihiro Gono vs. Tamdan McCrory

Marcus Aurelio vs. Luke Caudillo

Joe Lauzon vs. Jason Reinhardt

[UKfan]

Remind me not to come here tomorrow, I can't see it until Sunday 9pm UK time haha, I could watch it online if I stay up until stupid o'clock, but I doubt I will.

[Ravens1991]

it is going to suck for u the night of UFC 79 that card looks great. The main event on UFC 78 is like the 4th or 5th best fight if it was on UFC 79.

[JF4]

The last two UFC's have had good cards but have failed deliver with the excitement I expect from a UFC ppv. Hopefully the one with a weak card can deliver the excitement.

[KCJ58]

Tank Abbot>>>all

[Ravens1991]

I really hope he fights Kimbo. I think Kimbo KOs him but I wanna see someone go after Kimbo and I know Tank would do it.

[Ravens1991]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e384/justintruax/bisping-evans.jpg


great marketing tool 4 Rashad

[soybean]

what a horrible main event.

[fenikz]

if anyone wants to watch here is the Overeem vs Buentello fight, not the greastest quality but what ever

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3i6a8_alistair-overeem-vs-paul-buentello_extreme

Overeem just completely dominates this guy


Santiago vs Salmon, not the cleanest knee but when you have that much momentum behind it your gonna get KTFO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgBcB4puLys&eurl=http://weakchin.com/strikeforce-sean-salmon-vs-jorge-santiago-3/


Santiago vs Prangley, two nice knees and a straight right to end this one

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3i3vh_santiago-vs-prangley_extreme


Cung Le vs Sammy Morgan, Total domination by Le in this one, can't wait til he fights Shamrock

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Cung+Le+vs+morgan/video/x3i414_cung-le-vs-sammy-morgan_extreme

[Ravens1991]

Overeem has great talent, on 2003 grand prix he gave Chuck all he could handle until he gassed then he got KOed. I would love to see him in UFC.

[JF4]

SPOILER ALERT


http://the-car-club.co.uk/Images/Pictures/Honda-Prelude-Spoiler-%5BJAE-2005%5D-400.jpg



Not bad but not an amazing PPV. I was very impressed with Thiago Silva's win. He is a legit contender in a deep LHW class.

[fenikz]

Thiago is a beast, won 50 bucks off my buddy because of the 1st round KO

[Ravens1991]

wow I guess that ends the Houston Alexander hype. I am not shocked Rashad won.

[Ravens1991]

Word is Dan Henderson VS. Anderson Silva on UFC 82

[MaxV]

Word is Dan Henderson VS. Anderson Silva on UFC 82

Oh, that would be an awesome fight.

[fenikz]

Word is Dan Henderson VS. Anderson Silva on UFC 82

at MW or LHW?

[cordscords]

at MW or LHW?

Hendo moves back down to 185.

[Ravens1991]

yep I am preety sure it is a 185 unification bout.

[soybean]

I think if Hendo can avoid being sucked into that clinch he can/will win. His chin is solid as a rock and I rather get a brick thrown in my face than get punched by one of his fists.

[fenikz]

Henderson is going to try to take it to the ground but I'm willing to bet that Silva will spend most of his time working on is ground game and wins via armbar or choke

[ccB]

I only missed one fight in my predictions. I think I should be titled MMA Guru on NFLDC.

[ccB]

If Hendo and Anderson fight, Hendo will win as long as he doesnt get baited into a slugfest. Anderson's weakness is a good wrestler and Henderson is more than good.

[Ravens1991]

true Hendo has good takedowns, if he can defend Andersons triangle he has a shot, but you cant count either of them out because the fight can end at any moment with them.

[Rob S]

I am excited as hell for Silva vs Hendo. Hendo should win imo so long as he doesnt have to wreck his body making weight and he can stick to a good gameplan.

[Ravens1991]

That will be the fight of 2008.


Hendo will need to have a takedown gameplan and to watch out for submissions from the bottom man. Antonio will wanna slug but if he gets taken down will look for triangles.

[fenikz]

Just wondering, am I the only one who thought that Henderson beat Rampage?

I had him 48-47

[Ravens1991]

Hendersons game plan
-Push for takedowns-be a agressive wrestler and get takedowns and control Anderson, be aggressive on top so he won't get triangled, but don't gas because if it is standing up he will get hurt.
-Avoid thai clinch-Unless you are a robot you will die in Andersons clinch his knees are vicious
-Look for over/under-He is very good with the over/under, he took Rampage down various times with trips from there. He is a greco Roman wrestler so he will need to look for that.
-Work on submission defense from top guard-Anderson has long legs and a nice triangle from bottom so he will need to be careful, but dont lay and pray that will hurt him.

Anderson game plan
-Keep it standing-He is the best striker in MMA he will need to keep it standing, he will need to work on takedown defense from the over/under and strikes from the over/under because Henderson will be looking for that
-Work on bottom-He has a nice triangle but if he gets taken down he may stay there. He will need to be able to get out of mount/side mount/half-guard and get into guard to get out of bottom.

[Ravens1991]

Just wondering, am I the only one who thought that Henderson beat Rampage?

I had him 48-47

I had him with round 1, round 2 was tough to call, he got a takedown, but Rampage reversed him and had 5 more seconds of riding time so that is even. Rampage won round 3, Hendo slipped and stayed on his back so Rampage won round 4. Henderson won round 5. I will need to watch round 2 again before I make the final decision.

[fenikz]

Ya I think the 2nd round is the one I gave to Henderson that the judges gave to Rampage

[Ravens1991]

Ya I think the 2nd round is the one I gave to Henderson that the judges gave to Rampage

probably, Hendo had 1:42 top control and Rampage had 1:47, but Hendo had a takedown and Rampage had a reversal. It was preety even round.

[Rob S]

I scored for Rampage and I think that was probably right. I think if u look at the fight with no bias, most people would score it for Rampage.

[Ravens1991]

yea Hendo was my favorite fighter and I had Rampage winning.

[fenikz]

It was funny me and my buddy had a bet, loser was the other guys beer ***** for a night, I had Rampage he had Hendo, at the end of it we both thought we lost

[JF4]

Silva vs. Henderson confirmed for UFC 82 (March 1, Columbus)

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10025

[UKfan]

I'm making a DVD for some colleagues at work who are just getting into MMA after I showed them an Ultimate Knockouts DVD, just putting some good fights on there, not like a HL video or anything. So far I have:

Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin I
Takanori Gomi vs Nick Diaz
Stephan Bonnar vs Forrest Griffin
Fedor Emelianenko vs Kevin Randleman
Tyson Griffin vs Frankie Edgar
Clay Guida vs Tyson Griffin
GSP vs Jay Hieron
Houston Alexander vs Keith Jardine
Vitor Belfort vs Wanderlei Silva (I couldn't help myself, love it)

and when I can download more from megaupload I should have:

Antonio Nogueira vs Mirko CroCop
Georges St Pierre vs Frank Trigg
Matt Hughes vs Frank Trigg
Randy Couture vs Tim Sylvia

I need to get a BJ Penn fight and a Chuck Liddell fight, but none are really jumping out at me. Also I can't find Shogun vs Rampage right now which I want, anything else really classic that I am missing? Also what are your guys favourite fights? I don't want my bias to hinder people learning about MMA.

[Ravens1991]

GSP VS. BJ Penn is a good one.

You gotta add a Tank Abott fight.

Liddell VS. Oversteem, Couture 2 and 3 are all good

[Nerv]

You straight up need more Pride fights, sure Pride guys havent been doing great in UFC but the Pride fights & events were always more exciting than UFC ones.

Carlos Newton vs Jose 'Pele' Landi-Jons from Pride 19. Maybe my favorite fight of all time.

Mark Hunt vs Tsuyoshi Kohsaka (Pride Total Elimination)
Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama (Pride 21)
Ryo Chonan vs Anderson Silva (Pride Shockwave 04)
Dan Henderson vs Antonio (Big Nog) Nogueira (Pride 24)
Fedor Emelianenko vs Kazuyuki Fujita (Pride 26)
Mauricio Rua vs Rogerio (Lil Nog) Nogueira (Pride Critical Countdown 05)
Mauricio Rua vs Alistair Overeem (Pride Final Conflict 05)
Aleksander Emelianenko vs Ricardo Morais (Pride Bushido 6)
Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva (Pride 28 or Final Conflict 03)
BJ Penn vs Matt Hughes (UFC 63)
Takanori Gomi vs Tatsuya Kawajiri (Pride Bushido 9)

Some other really good ones.

[Ravens1991]

I also really like

Hunt VS. Wand Silva(shockwave 2004)

[Rob S]

I'm making a DVD for some colleagues at work who are just getting into MMA after I showed them an Ultimate Knockouts DVD, just putting some good fights on there, not like a HL video or anything. So far I have:

Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin I
Takanori Gomi vs Nick Diaz
Stephan Bonnar vs Forrest Griffin
Fedor Emelianenko vs Kevin Randleman
Tyson Griffin vs Frankie Edgar
Clay Guida vs Tyson Griffin
GSP vs Jay Hieron
Houston Alexander vs Keith Jardine
Vitor Belfort vs Wanderlei Silva (I couldn't help myself, love it)

and when I can download more from megaupload I should have:

Antonio Nogueira vs Mirko CroCop
Georges St Pierre vs Frank Trigg
Matt Hughes vs Frank Trigg
Randy Couture vs Tim Sylvia

I need to get a BJ Penn fight and a Chuck Liddell fight, but none are really jumping out at me. Also I can't find Shogun vs Rampage right now which I want, anything else really classic that I am missing? Also what are your guys favourite fights? I don't want my bias to hinder people learning about MMA.

good stuff, I wouldnt mind having a dvd like that haha. GSP vs Mayhem is good bc I know u are a GSP guy. Kawajiri- Gomi was great. get some classic Wandy in there. Josh Barnett vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira I. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Bob Sapp. Don Frye vs. Ken Shamrock. Luiz Azeredo vs. Takanori Gomi I

[UKfan]

You straight up need more Pride fights, sure Pride guys havent been doing great in UFC but the Pride fights & events were always more exciting than UFC ones.

Carlos Newton vs Jose 'Pele' Landi-Jons from Pride 19. Maybe my favorite fight of all time.

Mark Hunt vs Tsuyoshi Kohsaka (Pride Total Elimination)
Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama (Pride 21)
Ryo Chonan vs Anderson Silva (Pride Shockwave 04)
Dan Henderson vs Antonio (Big Nog) Nogueira (Pride 24)
Fedor Emelianenko vs Kazuyuki Fujita (Pride 26)
Mauricio Rua vs Rogerio (Lil Nog) Nogueira (Pride Critical Countdown 05)
Mauricio Rua vs Alistair Overeem (Pride Final Conflict 05)
Aleksander Emelianenko vs Ricardo Morais (Pride Bushido 6)
Quinton Jackson vs Wanderlei Silva (Pride 28 or Final Conflict 03)
BJ Penn vs Matt Hughes (UFC 63)
Takanori Gomi vs Tatsuya Kawajiri (Pride Bushido 9)

Some other really good ones.

Thanks, it's just more difficult to find PRIDE fights, and in all honesty I haven't seen as much of it as they only aired the old PRIDE's months later over here on really obscure channels haha, I'll have to check some of these out in my free time.

[UKfan]

good stuff, I wouldnt mind having a dvd like that haha. GSP vs Mayhem is good bc I know u are a GSP guy. Kawajiri- Gomi was great. get some classic Wandy in there. Josh Barnett vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira I. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Bob Sapp. Don Frye vs. Ken Shamrock. Luiz Azeredo vs. Takanori Gomi I

How could I forget that?! Man that fight is what made me a Nog fan!

[Rob S]

Thanks, it's just more difficult to find PRIDE fights, and in all honesty I haven't seen as much of it as they only aired the old PRIDE's months later over here on really obscure channels haha, I'll have to check some of these out in my free time.

look into the legacy dvd's. You get like 4 events in each pack for good prices.

[Rob S]

How could I forget that?! Man that fight is what made me a Nog fan!
yeah sick comeback. he was getting wrecked, but stayed in there.

[Ravens1991]

legacy sets are 5 events for $25 a good value.

[UKfan]

Cool, I might have some new items for Christmas methinks :D

[Ravens1991]

yea I am looking for Pride and UFC cards for christmas these are what I got so far.


UFC 51
UFC 58
UFC 59
Randy VS. Chuck trilogy
Pride 2003 Grand Prix
Pride 17 Championship Chaos
Pride 18 Cold Fury 2
Pride 20 Armed and Ready
Pride 21 Demolition
Pride 22 beast of the east 2
Pride 26 Body Blow
Pride 28 High Octane
Pride Shockwave 2004
Pride total elimination 2005
Pride bushido 9
Pride Shockwave 2005

I am looking at Pride legacy volume 3
Pride Critical countdown 2005
Pride Critical countdown 2004
Pride 24 cold fury 3

does anybody know if those cards are good? Please no spoilers on how the fight turned out.

Suggestions are appreciated.

[ccB]

Gomi vs Penn! Just because I love seeing Penn whoop up on japans golden boy.

[Ravens1991]

what card is that.

[ccB]

what card is that.

I think it was in one of the Hawaiian promotions, either Ikon or Rumble on the Rocks.

[Rob S]

I think it was in one of the Hawaiian promotions, either Ikon or Rumble on the Rocks.

it was a ROTR card I am pretty sure

[Nerv]

Thanks, it's just more difficult to find PRIDE fights, and in all honesty I haven't seen as much of it as they only aired the old PRIDE's months later over here on really obscure channels haha, I'll have to check some of these out in my free time.

Zuffa is releasing the **** out of PRIDE events on DVD now. The Bushido's in general are really good. Bushido 9 is probably the best.

I see Ravens already has Bushido 9, I believe Bushido 13 is really loaded as well. Critical Countdown 2005 is a great event; Wandy, Shogun, both Nog's, Cro Cop & a bunch of other top fighters are all on it.

[Ravens1991]

thanks,

I really hope they release Pride 33 before Christmas.

[Ravens1991]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10047

Fedor 1st opponent is 7'2 it is a shame that his average competiton will probably be a guy with that ability.

[UKfan]

I saw that as well, some people on the sherdog forums are saying HMC is a decent striker, I haven't seen him personally but I will be very surprised if Fedor doesn't whoop him on the ground inside a round

[Ravens1991]

yea I got Fedor by what ever he picks out of a hat in the 1st 2 minutes.

[Ravens1991]

Has anybody tried Judo? My dad wants to sign me and him up. I said to him I would do it. Does it hurt to get thrown? Thanks for answers.

[ccB]

Hong Man Choi is actually a pretty accomplished K1 kick boxer. I would even go as far as to say his striking skills on the feet are better than Fedors. With this said he should still be no problem for Fedor as long as Fedor can drag him to the ground. But do not underrate Choi too much, hes not the best competition but hes not a complete can either.

[cordscords]

Matt Serra is OUT at UFC 79.

Dana White needs to make something happen. Hughes vs GSP maybe?

[fenikz]

Has anybody tried Judo? My dad wants to sign me and him up. I said to him I would do it. Does it hurt to get thrown? Thanks for answers.

I've never done Judo but I did Kenpo for along time and wrestling so I'm used to being thrown, I'm sure a few time you will fall wrong and it will kind of hurt but Judo not only teaches you how to throw but how to be thrown so after awhile you will be fine

Matt Serra is OUT at UFC 79.

Dana White needs to make something happen. Hughes vs GSP maybe?

No way GSP can take a fight on 5 weeks notice, who even knows if he is in fighting shape right now, plus they just did the whole TUF thing so if GSP beat Hughes all that build up would go to waste. But a replacement fight is needed that was a huge blow to the card, Fedor vs Couture would be very nice right about now.

[JF4]

Matt Serra is OUT at UFC 79.

Dana White needs to make something happen. Hughes vs GSP maybe?

****!!!!!!! THAT SUCKS

It's still a damn good card though. It's going to be very tough for Dana to find a legitimate replacement fight. I don't think he's going to bring in someone else to fight Hughes. Hughes has earned his title shot against Serra and Dana would much rather delay the fight a month or two then just give a shot to someone else.

[Ravens1991]

wow it really sucks that Serra is hurt, that was gonna be a great UFC card, it is still good though.


Wand toilet paper commerical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L63QrJmaOmY

[Rob S]

wow it really sucks that Serra is hurt, that was gonna be a great UFC card, it is still good though.


Wand toilet paper commerical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L63QrJmaOmY


doubt that dana replaces it, he know chuck vs wand will sell and serra vs hughes gives him another PPV headliner.....kind of g a y, but it is how the business works.

[Ravens1991]

yea if Hughes loses that will hurt the broadcasting.

[ccB]

Rumors of replacements are Thiago Alves and Jon Finch. IMO Hughes wants no part of Finch because he will beat him and then Hughes is left with no title shot, unless of course, theyd be fighting for an interim title, but thats only if Serra is out long term.

[Ravens1991]

the thing is if it isn't a title fight, It will hurt all that TUF hype, I predict they send out a can for Hughes to kill and build momentum.