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The Legend
09-20-2006, 12:12 PM
Monte Kiffin is my favorite defensive coordinator in the NFL right now do you guys think he can be a head coach i know some people say he’s a little bit old

but that's what i think some teams need

i see this guy on the sideline's all fire up if his players makes a good play or bad play

do you guys think he had a chance to be a head coach (not sure but i believe he is in his last year of his contract) and if so where to

Vince Lombardi
09-20-2006, 12:14 PM
He's certainly deserving of a HC job and I'd like to see him get the chance, but the current trend in the NFL seems to be hiring young unproven coaches in hopes of getting the next Cowher.

The Legend
09-20-2006, 12:16 PM
He's certainly deserving of a HC job and I'd like to see him get the chance, but the current trend in the NFL seems to be hiring young unproven coaches in hopes of getting the next Cowher.

i feel the same way i was a little bit mad with the packers choice i wanted so one more proven

slightlyaraiderfan
09-20-2006, 12:21 PM
He might be deserving, but he seems like too much of an X and O's guy. Kind of like Norv Turner, great OC..horrible HC!

The Legend
09-20-2006, 12:23 PM
He might be deserving, but he seems like too much of an X and O's guy. Kind of like Norv Turner, great OC..horrible HC!

for some reason i dont see that with him

Vince Lombardi
09-20-2006, 12:45 PM
He's certainly deserving of a HC job and I'd like to see him get the chance, but the current trend in the NFL seems to be hiring young unproven coaches in hopes of getting the next Cowher.

i feel the same way i was a little bit mad with the packers choice i wanted so one more proven

JIM BATES!!! :evil:

The Legend
09-20-2006, 12:48 PM
He's certainly deserving of a HC job and I'd like to see him get the chance, but the current trend in the NFL seems to be hiring young unproven coaches in hopes of getting the next Cowher.

i feel the same way i was a little bit mad with the packers choice i wanted so one more proven

JIM BATES!!! :evil:
after what u saw bate do with that defence i was shock he didnt

what team is he with now>?

Dam8610
09-20-2006, 01:03 PM
Kiffin may be the Tom Moore of Defensive Coordinators. Based on the performance of Tom Moore offenses, Moore should have had a head coaching oppurtunity at some point in his career, but he's never really wanted to be a head coach. Maybe Kiffin is the same way.

yourfavestoner
09-20-2006, 01:05 PM
Kiffin may be the Tom Moore of Defensive Coordinators. Based on the performance of Tom Moore offenses, Moore should have had a head coaching oppurtunity at some point in his career, but he's never really wanted to be a head coach. Maybe Kiffin is the same way.

Agreed. Kiffin, Moore, and the Eagles' Jim Johnson are the deans of NFL coordinators. At this point in their careers, they're far too old to warrant serious consideration for a head coaching job, and I'm not even sure they'd want one anyways.

D-Unit
09-20-2006, 01:08 PM
He's way too old.

XxXdragonXxX
09-20-2006, 01:10 PM
Kiffin has turned down several head coaching offers.

P-L
09-20-2006, 01:16 PM
Kiffin has turned down several head coaching offers.

Yep. Teams have tried to get him to coach for years and he's turned down every offer thrown at him.

The Legend
09-20-2006, 01:20 PM
Kiffin has turned down several head coaching offers.

Yep. Teams have tried to get him to coach for years and he's turned down every offer thrown at him.

why were they not good or cause he doesnt want to be a head coach

Number 10
09-20-2006, 01:21 PM
I don't like the Cover 2. So, no.

bearsfan_51
09-20-2006, 01:37 PM
I think the job of a head coach is to be a figurehead and a leader on the team more so than an X's and O's guy (and to have a strong understanding of personal). While I would love Monte as my DC, I'm not crazy about giving a Head Coaching position to guy that seems to possess the personality of a turnip. Look at the people that have worked under him, Lovie Smith and Rod Marinelli. Those two possess the same understanding of the cover 2 defense but seem to have more of the "it" factor than Monte. That being said, he's never actually been a head coach and has turned down multiple offers, so it's hard to say.

bearsfan_51
09-20-2006, 01:38 PM
I don't like the Cover 2. So, no.
Which is ironic because the Cover 2 would do wonders for the Giants. Your pass rush would make up for your sub-par secondary and ask them to do different things.

NIN1984
09-20-2006, 01:55 PM
I always get him as my head coach in Madden

diabsoule
09-20-2006, 02:28 PM
He's certainly deserving of a HC job and I'd like to see him get the chance, but the current trend in the NFL seems to be hiring young unproven coaches in hopes of getting the next Cowher.

i feel the same way i was a little bit mad with the packers choice i wanted so one more proven

JIM BATES!!! :evil:
after what u saw bate do with that defence i was shock he didnt

what team is he with now>?

He's not with a team right now. I wanted him to take over the New Orleans vacancy before we hired Sean Payton. Bates is a damn good coach and a great and underrated DC. His players love to play under him, he did a good job as an interim coach in Miami. I'm really suprised he hasn't been offered a HC position anywhere. I think Green Bay really messed up when they picked McCarthy over him.

NGSeiler
09-20-2006, 03:16 PM
Pretty sure the Rams wanted to bring him in as a contender for their head coach opening and he turned them down. Seems like he's happy staying as a coordinator.

09-20-2006, 05:46 PM
Pretty sure the Rams wanted to bring him in as a contender for their head coach opening and he turned them down. Seems like he's happy staying as a coordinator.

He came to Green Bay so that he'd be the top candidate for the Head Coach job, because as most packer fans knew Sherman wasn't gonna be very long.

It's a shame they didn't give him the job and I thnk he would be a great Head Coach. Though I'm not upset at the McCarthy signing, I'm not excited over it.

Paranoidmoonduck
09-20-2006, 07:37 PM
Personally, I'd much rather let Monte dedicate himself to developing a relationship with his defensive players and work out on schemes.

I think he might do an average job as a head coach, but it is obvious that he has great passion for defense and I think he is most at home and in his best form as a d-coordinator.

GB12
09-20-2006, 08:23 PM
Bates is a damn good coach and a great and underrated DC. His players love to play under him, he did a good job as an interim coach in Miami. I'm really suprised he hasn't been offered a HC position anywhere. I think Green Bay really messed up when they picked McCarthy over him.

I was surprised that Miami didnt give him a chance after He did as interim HC. Then we get him in Green Bay, he's already there all they had to do was promote him. Instead Mike ******* McCarthy. He was a good coach and from what I heard the Players really liked him.

Number 10
09-20-2006, 08:49 PM
I don't like the Cover 2. So, no.
Which is ironic because the Cover 2 would do wonders for the Giants. Your pass rush would make up for your sub-par secondary and ask them to do different things.

There is no rush up the middle, and our safeties are poor in coverage. None of our LBs can be considered as top notch cover guys as well. If we change, I want the 3-4 but I don't think Strahan would fit into that kind of scheme. Maybe when he retires.

cunningham06
09-20-2006, 09:29 PM
I'd take him in a heartbeat, he is brilliant. Monte Kiffin is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. I like him as a coordinator though, and he obviously enjoys it as well because he has turned down offers for head coaching jobs. I would have liked to see what would happen if he had gone to Detroit to be the head coach, that would be a big test to see if he could turn that defense into something special.

M.O.T.H.
09-21-2006, 12:26 AM
He's way too old.

bearsfan_51
09-21-2006, 10:03 AM
I'd take him in a heartbeat, he is brilliant. Monte Kiffin is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. I like him as a coordinator though, and he obviously enjoys it as well because he has turned down offers for head coaching jobs. I would have liked to see what would happen if he had gone to Detroit to be the head coach, that would be a big test to see if he could turn that defense into something special.
Rod Marinelli is doing the exact same thing. They run roughly the same exact defense.

bigbluedefense
09-21-2006, 10:05 AM
Most of you guys know where I stand on Cover 2, so my obvious answer is no. And I don't think Kiffin has the personality to ever become a head coach either.

cunningham06
09-21-2006, 04:00 PM
I'd take him in a heartbeat, he is brilliant. Monte Kiffin is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. I like him as a coordinator though, and he obviously enjoys it as well because he has turned down offers for head coaching jobs. I would have liked to see what would happen if he had gone to Detroit to be the head coach, that would be a big test to see if he could turn that defense into something special.
Rod Marinelli is doing the exact same thing. They run roughly the same exact defense.

Yea I know they are switching to the tampa two, which is why I would have liked to see him go there since they are switching anyway. I like Marinelli, but I don't think he will be able to do nearly as much with the defense as Kiffin could. The man is a defensive artist, the Bucs always had a few weak spots on defense, but he always found ways to cover them up and use his players in the best way possible. The Lions have a lot of potential on defense, they have some very talented players, and some good young people as well. Shaun Rogers, Dre Bly, and Ernie Sims, I would like to see what he would be able to do with them.

YoJoeBucsFan
11-19-2006, 07:57 AM
Here is who I want to become the next head coach of the Buccaneers.
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/01/06/photos/sp-stoops.jpg

draftguru151
11-19-2006, 08:44 AM
I'm not sure if this was said, but Kiffin has turned down many HC jobs, he wants to stay as a DC.

Caddy
11-19-2006, 02:32 PM
I always get him as my head coach in Madden

Haha :lol: Nice

smittyjs
11-19-2006, 03:38 PM
yes

Jonathan_VIlma
11-19-2006, 06:26 PM
The problem is that he's had offers in the past and has declined them. I think because of his age he wants nothing to do with all the pressure of being a head coach. He'd rather just be an excellent defensive coordinator then possibly flop as a head coach and lose respect around the league.

Mr. Stiller
11-19-2006, 06:57 PM
Man, I'm glad LeBeau went to Cleveland.

diabsoule
11-20-2006, 01:36 AM
He's a bit old, which isn't that big of a problem, but the thing is is that he doesn't want to HC.

johbur
11-20-2006, 01:51 PM
These two would be a couple of good choices for teams in 2007.

Jim Bates is a strong defensive mind and a great motivator. If it weren't for the owner, he'd probably make a good Raiders coach.

Ron Rivera has been biding his time, but has shown that he can maintain a unit at a very high level. I'd like to see RR go to Arizona.

Another is Mike Sherman. Not that Houston is doing a great job on their O-line with the number of sacks given up, but it's better than when they lead the league. Also they lost their #1 RB, but have been pretty competitive. A Jim Bates as HC with Sherman as the OC would be a good pairing, especially if the team wanted to run a power-run game.

MagnumGator
11-20-2006, 01:55 PM
I think he's pretty happy earning $1 million per year and not having to deal with the headaches of being in charge of the whole ship. He's universally respected in the league and I've seen him around town and it doesn't seem people even know who he is. Not bad.

diabsoule
11-20-2006, 04:10 PM
These two would be a couple of good choices for teams in 2007.

Jim Bates is a strong defensive mind and a great motivator. If it weren't for the owner, he'd probably make a good Raiders coach.

Ron Rivera has been biding his time, but has shown that he can maintain a unit at a very high level. I'd like to see RR go to Arizona.

Another is Mike Sherman. Not that Houston is doing a great job on their O-line with the number of sacks given up, but it's better than when they lead the league. Also they lost their #1 RB, but have been pretty competitive. A Jim Bates as HC with Sherman as the OC would be a good pairing, especially if the team wanted to run a power-run game.

I am a huge fan of Bates and I think he'd make a great coach.

Ron Rivera, Mike Sherman, and I think Rex Ryan are all ready for the next level, Sherman having already been there and succeeding.