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B-Dawk23
09-22-2006, 11:27 PM
Me and Hawkeye fan were arguin about who is the best linebacker in the nfl under the age of 25 and we both agreed that is was shawn merriman but he is a blitzer. But anyway who is better AJ Hawk or Will Witherspoon. I said hawk he said witherspoon.

draftguru151
09-22-2006, 11:31 PM
Having another option would help.

And Witherspoon is the better of those two, but I would take Crowder over th both of them.

danman253
09-22-2006, 11:31 PM
its hard to vote against him when there is only one option :lol:

However Hawk is a rookie, and Will is a seasoned vet, you can't vote for Hawk simply on hype.

dc22
09-22-2006, 11:32 PM
i only see one choice. i think witherspoon is better as of now

dc22
09-22-2006, 11:32 PM
Having another option would help.

And Witherspoon is the better of those two, but I would take Crowder over th both of them.

Hows crowder doing in the nfl? I wanted the packers to get him

Jensen
09-22-2006, 11:33 PM
This is tough for me to vote. Give me a few minutes to let me think it over.

HawkeyeFan
09-22-2006, 11:34 PM
Delete this thread. He fixed it and created a new thread.

P-L
09-22-2006, 11:39 PM
I fixed the poll!

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-22-2006, 11:41 PM
I fixed the poll!


P-L for prez!

I say Witherspoon so far, he's played more than 2 games.

Jensen
09-22-2006, 11:48 PM
Witherspoon, and it's not close as of right now.

XxXdragonXxX
09-22-2006, 11:49 PM
Witherspoon is 26.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-22-2006, 11:49 PM
Witherspoon is 26.

And the poll is settled by that one statement.

09-22-2006, 11:50 PM
Barrett Ruud.
:lol:
I like AJ Hawk, but I'd take witherspoon as of now.

P-L
09-22-2006, 11:58 PM
Witherspoon is 26.

And the poll is settled by that one statement.

Fixed!

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-23-2006, 12:09 AM
Witherspoon is 26.

And the poll is settled by that one statement.

Fixed!

You are a true visionary...

bearfan
09-23-2006, 12:48 AM
Lofa....
Dj Williams.....
Vilma.....
Briggs.......

Just a few names in there, I believe under 26

09-23-2006, 12:49 AM
Lofa....
Dj Williams.....
Vilma.....
Briggs.......

Just a few names in there, I believe under 26scrub

thetedginnshow
09-23-2006, 01:44 AM
Vilma's the best, but of those two, and even adding in Crowder, it's Witherspoon. Witherspoon is the man, but I may be biased, since he's one of my most favorite players. Then again, so is Vilma.

...I'll go with Tatupu. :lol:

diabsoule
09-23-2006, 04:23 AM
Over production so far it has to be Witherspoon. This would be a better argument in a few years.

Number 10
09-23-2006, 09:11 AM
Having another option would help.

And Witherspoon is the better of those two, but I would take Crowder over th both of them.

:roll:

Witherspoon and it isn't even close.

09-23-2006, 09:13 AM
the best LB under 26 is Vilma

HawkeyeFan
09-23-2006, 09:42 AM
Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.

09-23-2006, 09:44 AM
Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.

well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league

Number 10
09-23-2006, 09:46 AM
Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.

well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league

No he won't.

09-23-2006, 09:48 AM
Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.

well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league

No he won't.

great arguement. :roll: im just saying I think he'll be a top 10 olb ina few years which is very reasonable

Staubach12
09-23-2006, 10:41 AM
I'd take Vilma over those guys.

Number 10
09-23-2006, 11:09 AM
Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.

well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league

No he won't.

great arguement. :roll: im just saying I think he'll be a top 10 olb ina few years which is very reasonable

Not any worse than your argument for Hawk. And calling him a top 10 OLB in a few years is different than calling him one of the best LBs in the league in a few years.

I've said it forever, Hawk was overrated in college because of the school he played for, his name, and his hair. He is a good player, but he won't ever be one of the best like some think he will be.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-23-2006, 11:17 AM
Why is A.J. Hawk even in this discussion of best LB under 26 he hasn't done anything yet. It's so random to compare him to a guy like Witherspoon.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-23-2006, 11:18 AM
I take Vilma and DJ over every other LB I can think of 26 or under.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-23-2006, 11:35 AM
Although he's more of a DE now I'd take Tsizzle over anyone else under 26 except maybe Vilma even to play LB, at 24 his potential is crazy.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
09-23-2006, 12:04 PM
i assume that this is just a comparison between those 2 players, and not the broad topic u previously mentioned or else u clearly are out of ur mind.

witherspoon is the superior player easily. Hawk has played 2 games!!!

bearsfan_51
09-23-2006, 12:08 PM
Lance Briggs owns both of them by far. But yeah Vilma is probably the best under 26.

Boston
09-23-2006, 03:01 PM
Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.

well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league

No he won't.

great arguement. :roll: im just saying I think he'll be a top 10 olb ina few years which is very reasonable

Not any worse than your argument for Hawk. And calling him a top 10 OLB in a few years is different than calling him one of the best LBs in the league in a few years.

I've said it forever, Hawk was overrated in college because of the school he played for, his name, and his hair. He is a good player, but he won't ever be one of the best like some think he will be.

Yeah. I'm sure that's why he was drafted in the top five.

Number 10
09-23-2006, 03:32 PM
Vilma yes is better than Witherspoon, I agree. But him and I were arguing about both of them.

well then he shouldnt have named the poll best lb unde 26.

witherspoon is without a doubt better than hawk right now but in a few tears hawk will be one of the best in the league

No he won't.

great arguement. :roll: im just saying I think he'll be a top 10 olb ina few years which is very reasonable

Not any worse than your argument for Hawk. And calling him a top 10 OLB in a few years is different than calling him one of the best LBs in the league in a few years.

I've said it forever, Hawk was overrated in college because of the school he played for, his name, and his hair. He is a good player, but he won't ever be one of the best like some think he will be.

Yeah. I'm sure that's why he was drafted in the top five.

Talk to me when he plays at a high level.

Staubach12
09-23-2006, 03:42 PM
Lance Briggs owns both of them by far. But yeah Vilma is probably the best under 26.

Oooh, I forgot Briggs. He's a stud.

rainbeaukid2
09-23-2006, 03:47 PM
there are many different guys that are better LBs at or under the age of 26
Vilma, Briggs, Crowder, etc.

Denver Bronco99
09-23-2006, 07:08 PM
i like williams better out of everyone .....but due to the broncos using the "Big Nickle" takes willaims off the field last year...he is on the feild alot more these 2 games then he was probally 8 games last year..

but i like vilma and williams

Shiver
09-23-2006, 07:59 PM
Jonathan Vilma

draftguru151
09-23-2006, 08:01 PM
WLB- Crowder
MLB- Vilma
SLB- DJ Williams

Drool.

jkpigskin
09-23-2006, 08:53 PM
as of right now, its witherspoon, but the linebackers seem to regress when they join the rams, (ie. coakley and claiborne) so i would bet hawk will be better in the near future

BlindSite
09-23-2006, 09:26 PM
Vilma

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-23-2006, 09:38 PM
WLB- Crowder
MLB- Vilma
SLB- DJ Williams

Drool.

I'll one up you:

Orgasm.

Romarville
09-23-2006, 11:17 PM
[quote=draftguru151]WLB- Crowder
MLB- Vilma
SLB- DJ Williams

Drool.

How about:

Shawne Merriman - Jonathan Vilma - Karlos Dansby

bearsfan_51
09-23-2006, 11:18 PM
Channing Crowder over Lance Briggs?

Yeah ok.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-23-2006, 11:21 PM
[quote=draftguru151]WLB- Crowder
MLB- Vilma
SLB- DJ Williams

Drool.

How about:

Shawne Merriman - Jonathan Vilma - Karlos Dansby


I'm personally not a huge fan of Merriman in a 4-3 as OLB. He strikes me as a 4-3 DE, but I dont see alot of him so I could be wrong. Plus DJ Williams just rules.

SuperMcGee
09-23-2006, 11:29 PM
Vilma is the best, but there NEEDS to be some mention of Angelo Crowell. I'd take him over most already mentioned

bearsfan_51
09-23-2006, 11:41 PM
Vilma is the best, but there NEEDS to be some mention of Angelo Crowell. I'd take him over most already mentioned
Make a list of the players already mentioned that you think Angelo Crowell is better than and try to do it not from the perspective of a Bills fan.

SuperMcGee
09-23-2006, 11:57 PM
You caught me in a bit of an exaggeration there, i'll admit it. I didn't take in the quality of the players already mentioned. What I do hold true is that he still should've been mentioned, is easily one of the most overlooked players in the league, and I would take him over Crowder and Hawk

draftguru151
09-24-2006, 09:29 AM
Channing Crowder over Lance Briggs?

Yeah ok.

Haha, you caught my homer, but Crowder is a stud.

Shiver
09-24-2006, 10:50 AM
How about:

Shawne Merriman - Jonathan Vilma - Karlos Dansby


Shawne Merriman wouldn't be effective as a 4-3 OLB, he'd be a weak side End.

09-24-2006, 10:51 AM
Briggs-Vilma-DJ

dcarey20
09-25-2006, 02:10 PM
BESIDES VILMA, THE BEST LB IN THE LEAGUE THAT IS 26 YEARS OLD OR YOUNGER IS BART SCOTT. HE IS A MONSTER.

Ravens1991
09-25-2006, 02:17 PM
BESIDES VILMA, THE BEST LB IN THE LEAGUE THAT IS 26 YEARS OLD OR YOUNGER IS BART SCOTT. HE IS A MONSTER.


that guy is actually looking very good leading the league in sacks.

bearsfan_51
09-25-2006, 02:17 PM
BESIDES VILMA, THE BEST LB IN THE LEAGUE THAT IS 26 YEARS OLD OR YOUNGER IS BART SCOTT. HE IS A MONSTER.
Yawn. He's had a nice 3 game span and looked pretty good last year but let's slow our roll here before we start placing him above more established players like Lance Briggs or D.J Williams. I still don't consider the Ravens defense as good as people say it is, especially after they let Charlie Frye look like John Elway.

Ravens1991
09-25-2006, 02:24 PM
BESIDES VILMA, THE BEST LB IN THE LEAGUE THAT IS 26 YEARS OLD OR YOUNGER IS BART SCOTT. HE IS A MONSTER.
Yawn. He's had a nice 3 game span and looked pretty good last year but let's slow our roll here before we start placing him above more established players like Lance Briggs or D.J Williams. I still don't consider the Ravens defense as good as people say it is, especially after they let Charlie Frye look like John Elway.


hey whether the Ravens D is overrated or not the guy is leading the league in sacks so far.

bearsfan_51
09-25-2006, 02:59 PM
BESIDES VILMA, THE BEST LB IN THE LEAGUE THAT IS 26 YEARS OLD OR YOUNGER IS BART SCOTT. HE IS A MONSTER.
Yawn. He's had a nice 3 game span and looked pretty good last year but let's slow our roll here before we start placing him above more established players like Lance Briggs or D.J Williams. I still don't consider the Ravens defense as good as people say it is, especially after they let Charlie Frye look like John Elway.


hey whether the Ravens D is overrated or not the guy is leading the league in sacks so far.
Sure. And I'm not trying to take anything away from him. But it's been three games. I'm not convinced by any means that he's better than guys that have been to the pro-bowl and have played at a consistant level for a few years now.

Derreck Burgess had 16 sacks last year..does that make him a monster? Does anyone actually think that he'll ever duplicate that ever again? Now condense that down to 3 games instead of a whole season. Maybe Bart will prove that he's the real deal...but it's going to take more than 3 good games before I consider him a dominant defensive player.

Ravens1991
09-25-2006, 03:55 PM
good points, I think he will be a good player, he is showing his potential, perhaps @ the end of the season he will be up there.