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10-02-2006, 09:56 AM
How do you think he is faring in the NFL? Im bias so I want other opinions.

Completion % = 63.2
PassTD = 5
INT = 7
RushTD = 3
totalTD = 8

Total yards = 866 (217 ypg)

YPG leaders.....(total pass yards)
League Leader = 1112
FRYE = 866
League average = 590

Fumbles=2
Fumbles lost=2

QB rating = 73.6


For having still, not a great OL, WR's have been hurt, along with starting RB and Bentley out for the year, how do you think Frye is doing for the Browns? Is he worth keeping as the starting QB of the future?

dcarey20
10-02-2006, 10:04 AM
I'm not even gonna vote because you only gave us two options...will he be the answer or will be a career back up?

I don't think he'll ever be a pro-bowler who saves the franchise, but I don't think he will be a career back up either.

I think he will be solid but unspectacular. He must be more consistent and make some better decisions...

sweetness34
10-02-2006, 10:09 AM
Frye's going to be a good QB. He just needs some time and a running game. But I like his potential.

Twiddler
10-02-2006, 10:11 AM
Like dcarey said I think he could be a solid starter in the league but just won't be the Pro Bowl type.

bearsfan_51
10-02-2006, 10:20 AM
Well I'm obviously very biased but I agree that he should be the starter for at least another year or two. There are plenty of positions outside of QB that the Browns need to try to upgrade on before him. The O-line stinks, the running game stinks, the secondary stinks, there is little passrushing unless they blitz. If I were the Browns I would start looking at corners in this years draft. Leigh Bodden is pretty good but beyond that I wouldn't count on anyone contributing much for this team.

On another note, I hope they don't fire Savage or Crennel. Give the guys some time, christ at least these Browns are competitive.

jkpigskin
10-02-2006, 10:41 AM
well i like to say that he was a steal in the 3rd.. he has good poise and is confident... i really like his potential

RyanLeaf#1
10-02-2006, 10:48 AM
He could of thrown the game away this week like he did last week. Why does he keep throwing interceptions in the redzone in the 4th quarter. Hes lucky he was playing the Raiders and not any other team.

bearsfan_51
10-02-2006, 10:51 AM
He could of thrown the game away this week like he did last week. Why does he keep throwing interceptions in the redzone in the 4th quarter. Hes lucky he was playing the Raiders and not any other team.
Cause he's a product of the Willard education system.

The Unseen
10-02-2006, 10:52 AM
He hasn't started a full year yet, so I would lay off a bit before assessments are made.

IRONMAN27
10-02-2006, 10:59 AM
He's been good, but every QB's stats get a nice little boost after playing Oakland

turninandburnin1
10-02-2006, 11:16 AM
I think he'll gain some good skills over the years. But at the same time he wont save the franchise but he also wont be a career back up.

Geo
10-02-2006, 11:49 AM
Remember Jeff Garcia's stupid throw last year against the Bears in overtime, which was intercepted and returned for a GW TD?

Frye's 4th quarter INT was at least twice as stupid.

:?

P-L
10-02-2006, 11:55 AM
Remember Jeff Garcia's stupid throw last year against the Bears in overtime, which was intercepted and returned for a GW TD?

Frye's 4th quarter INT was at least twice as stupid.

:?

I didn't see Frye's INT, but was it THAT bad? The Garcia INT was the stupidest decision I've ever seen im my life. He could've just as well ran backwards, put it in the endzone for the Bears, and walked off the field.

10-02-2006, 12:03 PM
He is defenitaly our future, probably not a hall of famer but good nonetheless. I could see him going to a pro bowl or two.

He has all the intagibles to be good, plus amazing pocket manuvering abilities and strong enough arm.

He just needs some experience and a decent o-line.

Flyboy
10-02-2006, 12:04 PM
Remember Jeff Garcia's stupid throw last year against the Bears in overtime, which was intercepted and returned for a GW TD?

Frye's 4th quarter INT was at least twice as stupid.

:?

I didn't see Frye's INT, but was it THAT bad? The Garcia INT was the stupidest decision I've ever seen im my life. He could've just as well ran backwards, put it in the endzone for the Bears, and walked off the field.

:D

portermvp84
10-02-2006, 12:57 PM
He could be something down the line, but I don't see anything now based on the stats from this year so far.

10-02-2006, 07:14 PM
He could be something down the line, but I don't see anything now based on the stats from this year so far.

You of all people should now that stats can be misleading. :lol:

18 point comebacks tell the story.

ShutDwn
10-02-2006, 07:24 PM
Remember Jeff Garcia's stupid throw last year against the Bears in overtime, which was intercepted and returned for a GW TD?

Frye's 4th quarter INT was at least twice as stupid.

:?

I didn't see Frye's INT, but was it THAT bad?.

Yes.

The Unseen
10-02-2006, 07:35 PM
Yes.

I just saw it half an hour ago. Wooowwwowowow.

Staubach12
10-02-2006, 10:17 PM
He'll be fine. Frye is young, and he's working with a young supporting cast. He'll come around.

keylime_5
10-02-2006, 10:19 PM
Like dcarey said I think he could be a solid starter in the league but just won't be the Pro Bowl type.

If Jake Delhomme and Brad Johnson are pro bowlers then Frye can go to multiple stints in Honolulu. He is the second coming of Tarkenton. Give him an OL and he'll be dynamite with all those weapons.

yourfavestoner
10-02-2006, 11:37 PM
Like dcarey said I think he could be a solid starter in the league but just won't be the Pro Bowl type.

If Jake Delhomme and Brad Johnson are pro bowlers then Frye can go to multiple stints in Honolulu. He is the second coming of Tarkenton. Give him an OL and he'll be dynamite with all those weapons.

I think he's in the wrong offense right now.

In my opinion, he's perfectly suited for a West Coast Offense. He has good pocket presence, is fairly mobile, scrambles to avoid pressure, ran the WCO in college, and it would help hide his greatest flaw, which is his lack of arm strength.

keylime_5
10-04-2006, 06:05 PM
He could be something down the line, but I don't see anything now based on the stats from this year so far.

If you haven't seen Charlie running around making those throws on rollouts and what not then you shouldn't be making calls on how good he is. (i'm talking to everybody) He looks better than his stats; has all the intangables and his arm is really underrated compared to the criticiscm it gets

Philliez01
10-04-2006, 06:29 PM
Considering he's never really played a full season, there's going to be many ups and downs. Winslow and Edwards have looked good thus far so the future for CLE is pretty bright. Basically the QB Chart, he's in the middle:

-Tom Brady
-Peyton Manning
-Carson Palmer


-Charlie Frye





-Ken Dorsey
-Koy Detmer

brownsrodeo88
10-04-2006, 06:47 PM
So far he's been as good as anyone could ask him to be with whats around him. He has an underrated receiving corps IMO, but the offensive line and running game arent doing him any big favors... then again neither is trying to chuck it cross body to the other end of the field while on the run.

10-04-2006, 06:56 PM
Like dcarey said I think he could be a solid starter in the league but just won't be the Pro Bowl type.

If Jake Delhomme and Brad Johnson are pro bowlers then Frye can go to multiple stints in Honolulu. He is the second coming of Tarkenton. Give him an OL and he'll be dynamite with all those weapons.

I think he's in the wrong offense right now.

In my opinion, he's perfectly suited for a West Coast Offense. He has good pocket presence, is fairly mobile, scrambles to avoid pressure, ran the WCO in college, and it would help hide his greatest flaw, which is his lack of arm strength.


Have you watched him this year? His "zip" has really improved, as has his deep ball. He proves everygame that he can make the throws, sure he doens't have Brett Favre arm, but it is good enough.

keylime_5
10-04-2006, 09:54 PM
like I said, the biggest knock people have on Charlie is his arm, which has not been a problem at all this season. Granted he isn't throwing lasers like Leftwich or Culpepper, but he has good velocity so far.

His only problem is he isn't a veteran yet so he doesn't read defenses quite like Brett Favre or anything, and he makes some decisions that only a young QB like Charlie would take. You gotta give him time, he's only started about 8 games or so in his career

art vandelay
10-04-2006, 10:00 PM
Considering he's never really played a full season, there's going to be many ups and downs. Winslow and Edwards have looked good thus far so the future for CLE is pretty bright. Basically the QB Chart, he's in the middle:

-Tom Brady
-Peyton Manning
-Carson Palmer



-JP Losman :)


-Charlie Frye





-Ken Dorsey
-Koy Detmer

bogart69
10-05-2006, 10:25 AM
I think he may be the modern day Fran Tarkenton...

I only saw him play the against the Saints and he had zero time to throw. And on too many occasions his receivers dropped catchable balls..One INT was a perfectly thrown pass to Edwards that bounced off his stone hands into the DBs..

His arm strength is questionable but his abiltity to move should help him find open receivers...I like him

FrankGore
10-20-2006, 05:23 PM
I'm not amazed by him but I could see him becoming a top-15 QB when things get better in Cleveland.

Thunderstruck
10-20-2006, 07:01 PM
With his makeshift offensive line and pedestrian ground attack, I think he has been impressive. As far as I am concerned, he will make a couple of Pro Bowls if they invest some money and draft picks towards buying him more time before his confidence is shattered.

The off-season workout program he used has really helped, as his ball definitely has better zip. His ability to manipulate and move around in the pocket is superlative and he carries himself with such poise for only a second year player. He needs to make better decisions, but that should come with game experience.