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Windy
10-04-2006, 11:04 AM
You Decide?




86.5 Career Sacks
1 Championship Ring
etc

draftguru151
10-04-2006, 11:06 AM
I think so, he was the best DT in the league for a few years, and he is one of the best at getting after the QB from the DT position.

Basileus777
10-04-2006, 11:21 AM
Its possible he may get in eventually, he had a few very dominant years and was part of a superbowl team. He certainly has name recognition as well. I think he should be in more than anyone else on that Tampa team except maybe Brooks. I don't know if he will get in, it isn't easy to tell with defensive players considering the offensive bias of the Hall. Its ridiculous that Lynn Swann is in the hall and Richard Dent isn't.

Nitschke-Hawk
10-04-2006, 11:23 AM
If he was 20-30 pounds lighter the last 4 years he would have a better shot case he would play better, I don't think he held up his elite status long enough.

glennjamen3
10-04-2006, 11:47 AM
i hope not

therock6000
10-04-2006, 11:53 AM
i'm not a big fan of his personality (or the fact he screwed over Cincy before he signed with oakland)...but he was very dominant in the late 90s early 00s...so i guess i think he will

bsaza2358
10-04-2006, 11:54 AM
Sapp was a dominant force for 5-7 years from the DT spot. He racked up a large number of sacks and was the center of offensive game planning from a position that generally doesn't get a lot of glory. Even now, on a bad team, he is still pretty effective. He made DT pretty relevant and helped bring the Cover 2 back into vogue with his skill set. I would say Sapp should be in the HoF, but he's not a first balloter.

Splat
10-04-2006, 12:08 PM
Maybe if he can get up to 100 sacks pretty sure his mouth with keep him from being a first ballot HOF.

Nitschke-Hawk
10-04-2006, 12:24 PM
And the cheapshot on Clifton, he's lucky it didn't end his career, his pelvic bones completely knocked out of place or something like that.

RyanLeaf#1
10-04-2006, 12:30 PM
No way

P-L
10-04-2006, 01:01 PM
And the cheapshot on Clifton, he's lucky it didn't end his career, his pelvic bones completely knocked out of place or something like that.

That was a legal block. :?

Jughead10
10-04-2006, 01:02 PM
He is a definate hall of famer.

Splat
10-04-2006, 01:03 PM
And the cheapshot on Clifton, he's lucky it didn't end his career, his pelvic bones completely knocked out of place or something like that.

That was a legal block. :?

It was a cheap shot.

bearsfan_51
10-04-2006, 01:28 PM
He absolutely is.

High number of Pro-Bowls.

Superbowl Championship.

Impact player.

That's the formula.

Shiver
10-04-2006, 01:30 PM
He absolutely is.

High number of Pro-Bowls.

Superbowl Championship.

Impact player.

Defensive Player of the Year: 1999

That's the formula.


:wink:

Ward
10-04-2006, 01:31 PM
Can you tell the story of the NFL without Warren Sapp? In my opinion, no. He should be in.

bearsfan_51
10-04-2006, 01:32 PM
He absolutely is.

High number of Pro-Bowls.

Superbowl Championship.

Impact player.

Defensive Player of the Year: 1999

That's the formula.


:wink:
Yup.

Here's the benchmark.

Have you been to at least or close to 8 Pro Bowls?

Have you won a championship and been on consistantly good teams?

Did you win an MVP award?

Has your presence in the league somehow changed the way the game is played?

bearsfan_51
10-04-2006, 01:33 PM
Can you tell the story of the NFL without Warren Sapp? In my opinion, no. He should be in.
I hear that a lot but I'm not sure how valid that is. Can you tell the story of the NFL without Phil Simms? Does that make him a HOF? There are lots of important players that aren't necessarily elite players.

Ward
10-04-2006, 01:34 PM
Can you tell the story of the NFL without Warren Sapp? In my opinion, no. He should be in.
I hear that a lot but I'm not sure how valid that is. Can you tell the story of the NFL without Phil Simms? Does that make him a HOF? There are lots of important players that aren't necessarily elite players.

Hell yes you can tell the story without Phil Simms. The important figures on that team were Parcells, LT, and arguably Harry Carson.

Jughead10
10-04-2006, 01:36 PM
Can you tell the story of the NFL without Warren Sapp? In my opinion, no. He should be in.
I hear that a lot but I'm not sure how valid that is. Can you tell the story of the NFL without Phil Simms? Does that make him a HOF? There are lots of important players that aren't necessarily elite players.

Hell yes you can tell the story without Phil Simms. The important figures on that team were Parcells, LT, and arguably Harry Carson.

This is true. The only thing Phil really has going for him is that he basically had the Don Larson no hitter in the World Series, except in the Super Bowl.

Ward
10-04-2006, 01:38 PM
Can you tell the story of the NFL without Warren Sapp? In my opinion, no. He should be in.
I hear that a lot but I'm not sure how valid that is. Can you tell the story of the NFL without Phil Simms? Does that make him a HOF? There are lots of important players that aren't necessarily elite players.

Hell yes you can tell the story without Phil Simms. The important figures on that team were Parcells, LT, and arguably Harry Carson.

This is true. The only thing Phil really has going for him is that he basically had the Don Larson no hitter in the World Series, except in the Super Bowl.

The question "Can you tell the story of the NFL without this person?" is the only reason Joe Namath is in the HOF in the first place. If it weren't for Namath, there would be no NFL. But look at his numbers, they're ATROCIOUS.

LonghornsLegend
10-04-2006, 02:25 PM
i would like to see brooks, sapp, and rice all make it in eventually...

yourfavestoner
10-04-2006, 02:31 PM
Yes, he makes it easily, for all the reasons Ward and Bearsfan already said.

The guy was the centerpiece on one of the most consistently good defenses of our era.

Shiver
10-04-2006, 02:34 PM
The 1999 Bucs defense was awesome. They shut down the "greatest show on turf" in their stadium, in the NFCCG, without any offensive support to speak of.

Ravens1991
10-04-2006, 03:03 PM
i would like to see brooks, sapp, and rice all make it in eventually...


I think all 3 may. About DT does anybody think if Sam Adams has a chance to be a HOF?

Basileus777
10-04-2006, 03:05 PM
i would like to see brooks, sapp, and rice all make it in eventually...


I think all 3 may. About DT does anybody think if Sam Adams has a chance to be a HOF?

He has no chance at all and I guarantee you all three of those players do not make the hall. Two players from that Tampa defense will make it. People are underestimating how difficult it is to get into the hall, particularly for a defensive player.

giant73zuma
10-04-2006, 03:23 PM
I was huge sapp fan, he is one of my favorite D tackles right next the goose. I really like Warren, he was dominate for a good number season, a real force in the interior. I think he will make the hall, maybe not first ballot but he will eventually.

10-04-2006, 04:07 PM
i hope notwhy's that?

jackalope
10-04-2006, 04:10 PM
i doubt it

i will never forgive Sapp for his cheap shot on Chad Clifton

10-04-2006, 04:18 PM
i doubt it

i will never forgive Sapp for his cheap shot on Chad Cliftonwhen was this?

P-L
10-04-2006, 04:41 PM
i doubt it

i will never forgive Sapp for his cheap shot on Chad Cliftonwhen was this?

A few years ago. Packers fans fans are just sour. It was a LEGAL block, not a cheap shot. No flag was thrown on the play and the NFL said later in the week that it was a legal block. The NFL also did not fine or suspend Sapp. Was it a little overboard? Maybe. But it wasn't a cheap shot.

10-04-2006, 04:44 PM
i doubt it

i will never forgive Sapp for his cheap shot on Chad Cliftonwhen was this?

A few years ago. Packers fans fans are just sour. It was a LEGAL block, not a cheap shot. No flag was thrown on the play and the NFL said later in the week that it was a legal block. The NFL also did not fine or suspend Sapp. Was it a little overboard? Maybe. But it wasn't a cheap shot.OOOOOOOO is that when he put that dude in the hospital? on MNF i think it was.

draftguru151
10-04-2006, 05:46 PM
Yea I think it was on MNF.

They made a rule that you can't hit people away from the play now. And apparently it is a high school rule as well because I got called for it last year. :?

10-04-2006, 06:54 PM
Yea I think it was on MNF.

They made a rule that you can't hit people away from the play now. And apparently it is a high school rule as well because I got called for it last year. :?you mean it happened to you last year ;)

10-04-2006, 07:01 PM
Yes because for a quite a few years he was a dominant DT, the best in the league in fact. Not sure if he's first ballot though

10-04-2006, 07:08 PM
last year sapp had 5 sacks in ten games.

this year he has 2 sacks in 3 games.

B-Dawk23
10-04-2006, 09:27 PM
He has not proved to me to be special at anything. He is a good player in all but i think laroy Glover deserves it more!

10-04-2006, 09:30 PM
GRUDEN RUINED SAPP!

thought i would say it before YoJoe does.

jkpigskin
10-04-2006, 09:36 PM
And the cheapshot on Clifton, he's lucky it didn't end his career, his pelvic bones completely knocked out of place or something like that.

That was a legal block. :?

It was a cheap shot.

that was a total cheap shot... it looked really violent and unnecessary...

but otherwise, sapp should be a hall of famer as he was the best DT in the league for a while and he was unbelievable at getting to the qb

moc182
10-04-2006, 09:44 PM
I don't think so. He was a great player, but not hall of fame great in my opinion.

10-04-2006, 09:52 PM
I don't think so. He was a great player, but not hall of fame great in my opinion.are there any DTs in the HOF?

Jughead10
10-04-2006, 10:04 PM
I don't think so. He was a great player, but not hall of fame great in my opinion.are there any DTs in the HOF?

Yes. Merlin Olsen, Bob Lilly, Alan Page, and Mean Joe Greene off the top of my head.

10-04-2006, 11:17 PM
I don't think so. He was a great player, but not hall of fame great in my opinion.are there any DTs in the HOF?

Yes. Merlin Olsen, Bob Lilly, Alan Page, and Mean Joe Greene off the top of my head.duh, i had a brain fart for a bit.

Shiver
10-05-2006, 12:28 AM
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10-05-2006, 12:50 AM
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Shiver
10-05-2006, 01:37 AM
:roll:

10-05-2006, 02:08 AM
:roll:it was a joke ;)

Shiver
10-05-2006, 03:07 AM
Yes I know, I was rolling my eyes at it.