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Freddy G
04-27-2007, 12:11 PM
Okay, its time for the annual, "I'm going to college, what computer should i get" thread.

Let me start my saying, my computer savy is, well, not very savy. So if you could dumb it down just a tad, it would be appreciated.


I need to do all the usual school work stuff (word processing, spreadsheets maybe, internet etc..), but i also use my computer as a large source of media/entertainment. I have an ipod, digital camera, and video camera that i need to be able to hook up and be able to use video editing software....so i think i need something with some memory and guts. I am also kind of impatient and hate when **** doesn't work right (like my current Dell). Oh, and like i said and lacking computer savy, so ease to use is also a consideration.

I here a lot about Macs and i like what i hear, so i would like to explore that option as well.

My price range is anything below 1400-1600 i guess.

So basically, should i get a Mac or PC....and what kind? (laptops)

Thanks in advance.

Xiomera
04-27-2007, 12:37 PM
I have a Dell Latitude D620 Laptop and I love it.

Damix
04-27-2007, 12:55 PM
I have an ASUS S5N, the lighest notebook on the market.

I carry it everywhere so I wanted an ultraportable one.

You really need to say to yourself what do you really need this laptop for?

Dell will get you good customer service, if your not much a computer person, this is a huge plus, and they are always reasonbly priced, and you can find good value.

If you want a gaming notebook (which I don't suggest) then Acer is probably the company you want to with. I went with ASUS, because I had experience with them before and I knew what I was getting.

I would stay away from Alienware because they over priced and away from Toshiba, e-Computers (or whatever that name is) and pretty much any other 'bargain' laptop.

I always suggest buying things online, you get the better price and usually the better computer then the stuff they tend to show in stores.

Good luck

Vikes99ej
04-27-2007, 12:57 PM
Get a Dell. I have one, and it works great.

Ward
04-27-2007, 01:02 PM
I thought about posting a Mac or a picture of a cat doing something adorable, but instead I'll actually help you. Unless you plan on building your PC yourself (which doesn't sound possible for you), get a windows laptop or a mac desktop/laptop. Really. You could get a GREAT mac for the price range you're talking about, not just a bare bones model.

Moses
04-27-2007, 02:14 PM
Do you want a laptop or desktop?

Freddy G
04-27-2007, 03:24 PM
"(laptops)"

GB12
04-27-2007, 03:40 PM
For what you need to use it for you can get one for a lot cheaper than $1600.

thule
04-27-2007, 06:23 PM
Dell SB has Inspiron E1501 for $549. The system is available both with Windows Vista Home Basic or Windows XP Home as an option.

Specs:

* Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-50
* Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic Or Windows XP Home
* 15.4 inch Wide Screen XGA Display
* 1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm
* 80GB Hard Drive
* 8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
* ATI RADEON Xpress1150 256MB HyperMemory (Integrated)
* Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Mini Card (54Mbps)
* Integrated Audio
* 29 WHr 4-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
* 1 Yr Ltd Warranty, 1 Yr Mail-in Service, and 1 Yr Tech Support
* Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem

Good upgrades to consider :

* 15.4 inch Wide Screen XGA Display with TrueLife(glossy) [add $10]
* 85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery [add $50]


Prob one of the best deals out right now.

Freddy G
04-27-2007, 06:35 PM
Thanks for the imput guys, but i have couple more questions.

Did i miss something, or is the only way you can get a 15+ in screen on a Mac laptop is to get the MacBook Pro? The regular MacBook is only 13 in. I ask because i see people with Macs that are bigger and look very different than the ones on the website.

Also, i have a Dell right now (3 years old) and i just don't like it. I am not sure of the specs, but it is slow and is always having these little "glitches" where a program won't respond or the stupid error report thing comes up....its annoying.

Jimmy
04-27-2007, 06:46 PM
get a mac. *gasp* yup, i said it and meant it.

i second that post as it is very logical

ncst8fan83
04-27-2007, 08:09 PM
As far as Dell laptops go, we have 5 that i have to service at work along with the one i'm currently typing on. The biggest source of system slowdown is a weird svchost.exe problem with automatic windows updates. if you have that turned on, PM me and I'll walk you through how to take it off and it should speed up your PC quite a bit. You HAVE to make sure you download the latest updates at least once a month though and I can explain that as well if you need. I would check out some deals at www.newegg.com and www.tigerdirect.com as a starting point. You can get your bearings on what features cost what. Again, if you have specific questions, feel free to PM me and I'll try to explain the best I can.

j05son
04-27-2007, 09:22 PM
You're going to OSU aren't you? Most colleges/universities have say, a partnership with someone where you can get computers at a cheaper rate. It should be on OSU's website prolly in networking or something. You can prolly call and ask them.

When I almost went to University of Findlay they had Apples at lower than regular cost...

I would recommend building your own or see if a computer shop can build one for you...It seems the best deal to get parts from Newegg [or if you know someone at Best Buy that will use their store discount to help you 8-) ] and have them put it together for you...

awfullyquiet
04-27-2007, 09:26 PM
i second that post as it is very logical

thirded. macs die less.
minus screens. but that's the issue with laptops. invest in a good monitor.

GB12
04-27-2007, 09:28 PM
American is a good store for computers. I got my laptop for $480 after rebates. It's an 80GB with a 15.4" screen. I also got a free router, laptop carrying bag, and all in one printer/scanner/copier.

Paul
04-27-2007, 09:41 PM
I like Lenovo IBM Thinkpads. Sturdy, streamlined machines with good support. I have one from a 6 years back and it's solid.

ncst8fan83
04-28-2007, 12:18 AM
You're going to OSU aren't you? Most colleges/universities have say, a partnership with someone where you can get computers at a cheaper rate. It should be on OSU's website prolly in networking or something. You can prolly call and ask them.

When I almost went to University of Findlay they had Apples at lower than regular cost...

I would recommend building your own or see if a computer shop can build one for you...It seems the best deal to get parts from Newegg [or if you know someone at Best Buy that will use their store discount to help you 8-) ] and have them put it together for you...

i would recommend NOT building your own. you can't just mix and match components. there are certain video cards that will only work with certain motherboards, will work better with certain motherboards, different memory reacts differently to separate boards as well as hard drives, cpu's, sound cards, etc etc. If you're not absolutely beyond savvy with computer components then i would stick with a PC with a warranty that has been through rigorous testing prior to being shipped out. Stay with Dell/Gateway/Acer/Asus/Lenovo/Toshiba, everyone else sucks ass. If you're buying a laptop, go with mega processor and graphics card first off especially if it's going to be an on-board video card. everything else should be upgradeable.

This sucker is hott - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115373
Acer TravelMate TM8210-6245 Intel Core 2 Duo T5500(1.66GHz) 15.4" Wide SXGA+ 1GB 160GB DVD Super Multi ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 NoteBook - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115373)

Communication: Modem, Gigabit LAN and WLAN
CPU Type: Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66G
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
Hard Disk: 160GB
Memory Size: 1GB DDR2
Operating System: Windows XP Professional
Optical Drive: DVD Super Multi
Part#: LX.TEH06.118
Screen: 15.4" WSXGA+
Video Memory: 256MB
Model #: TM8210-6245
Item #: N82E16834115373
Return Policy: Desktop PC, Notebook, and Tablet PC Return Policy (http://www.newegg.com/Info/ReturnPolicy.aspx#6)
In Stock
3 Business Day Shipping $12.89
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$1,399.99

Can't beat that bud. I'd get that and add this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146517

2GB of memory for 105 bucks. That's a total of 1504.98.

raidersfan86
04-28-2007, 12:20 AM
MAKE SURE TO BUT A MACINTOSH THEY ARE BEtTER THAN ALL PCS BECAUSE PCS ARE THE DEVIL

raidersfan86
04-28-2007, 12:21 AM
i would recommend NOT building your own. you can't just mix and match components. there are certain video cards that will only work with certain motherboards, will work better with certain motherboards, different memory reacts differently to separate boards as well as hard drives, cpu's, sound cards, etc etc. If you're not absolutely beyond savvy with computer components then i would stick with a PC with a warranty that has been through rigorous testing prior to being shipped out. Stay with Dell/Gateway/Acer/Asus/Lenovo/Toshiba, everyone else sucks ass. If you're buying a laptop, go with mega processor and graphics card first off especially if it's going to be an on-board video card. everything else should be upgradeable.

This sucker is hott - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115373
Acer TravelMate TM8210-6245 Intel Core 2 Duo T5500(1.66GHz) 15.4" Wide SXGA+ 1GB 160GB DVD Super Multi ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 NoteBook - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115373)

Communication: Modem, Gigabit LAN and WLAN
CPU Type: Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66G
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
Hard Disk: 160GB
Memory Size: 1GB DDR2
Operating System: Windows XP Professional
Optical Drive: DVD Super Multi
Part#: LX.TEH06.118
Screen: 15.4" WSXGA+
Video Memory: 256MB
Model #: TM8210-6245
Item #: N82E16834115373
Return Policy: Desktop PC, Notebook, and Tablet PC Return Policy (http://www.newegg.com/Info/ReturnPolicy.aspx#6)
In Stock
3 Business Day Shipping $12.89
http://images10.newegg.com/Ggewen/Themes/2005/Nest/moveToWishlist.gifMove To Wish List (http://secure.newegg.com/Newversion/WishList/WishCartPlus.asp?Submit=ADDITEM2WISHLIST&Item=N82E16834115373)

$1,399.99

Can't beat that bud. I'd get that and add this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146517

2GB of memory for 105 bucks. That's a total of 1504.98.

YOU CAN GET A MACBOOK INSTEAD ITS A LOT BETTER TRUST ME MACS ARE FASTER THAN PCs

thule
04-28-2007, 12:29 AM
Quick question...

I'm looking at upgrading the RAM in my laptop. I'm looking at the Crucial 1GB 200-Pin DDR2.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145048

I was wondering if you had to match the memory for it to combine. Not exactly sure what is in there right now...and too lazy to go dig right now...but I got 512 right now...i'm gonna guess ddr2 pc2800 or something. I don't have to match the pc#### do I?

ncst8fan83
04-28-2007, 12:54 AM
it doesn't have to match RAM-to-RAM, but it does have to meet requirements of your DDR2 slots. for instance, if your PC's motherboard has a maximum ddr2 667 and you put in a stick of ddr2 533, both sticks of memory would run at 533. If your motherboard required 533, it wouldn't be compatible with 667. Make sense?

j05son
04-28-2007, 03:09 AM
i would recommend NOT building your own. you can't just mix and match components. there are certain video cards that will only work with certain motherboards, will work better with certain motherboards, different memory reacts differently to separate boards as well as hard drives, cpu's, sound cards, etc etc. If you're not absolutely beyond savvy with computer components then i would stick with a PC with a warranty that has been through rigorous testing prior to being shipped out. Stay with Dell/Gateway/Acer/Asus/Lenovo/Toshiba, everyone else sucks ass. If you're buying a laptop, go with mega processor and graphics card first off especially if it's going to be an on-board video card. everything else should be upgradeable.

This sucker is hott - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115373
Acer TravelMate TM8210-6245 Intel Core 2 Duo T5500(1.66GHz) 15.4" Wide SXGA+ 1GB 160GB DVD Super Multi ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 NoteBook - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115373)

Communication: Modem, Gigabit LAN and WLAN
CPU Type: Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66G
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
Hard Disk: 160GB
Memory Size: 1GB DDR2
Operating System: Windows XP Professional
Optical Drive: DVD Super Multi
Part#: LX.TEH06.118
Screen: 15.4" WSXGA+
Video Memory: 256MB
Model #: TM8210-6245
Item #: N82E16834115373
Return Policy: Desktop PC, Notebook, and Tablet PC Return Policy (http://www.newegg.com/Info/ReturnPolicy.aspx#6)
In Stock
3 Business Day Shipping $12.89
http://images10.newegg.com/Ggewen/Themes/2005/Nest/moveToWishlist.gifMove To Wish List (http://secure.newegg.com/Newversion/WishList/WishCartPlus.asp?Submit=ADDITEM2WISHLIST&Item=N82E16834115373)

$1,399.99

Can't beat that bud. I'd get that and add this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146517

2GB of memory for 105 bucks. That's a total of 1504.98.

That's why i suggested a computer shop since he said he wasn't computer savvy...

>_>
<_<

I would seriously look into the OSU computers though...I'm sure they have a partnership with someone and have good deals on them...

I did a quick search and found http://ibuy.osu.edu/search.php?article=40 so that might help you find a good deal...Or users here can look and recommend something...I may later, I am now to bed.

tEk
04-28-2007, 03:16 AM
i think #teenchat on EFNet is missing a contributing spammer. you didn't say anything in this post that's verifiably true, and you thought you needed all caps to be wrong. why even hit post? 3 years ago my parents got me a dell laptop for my graduation gift(high school). so far it hasn't had any problems. no viruses, spyware or lagginess. runs the same as when i received it. i dont have it with me at the moment but im sure the model is not produced anymore. but there goes my 2 cents.

McBain
04-28-2007, 06:42 AM
I thought about posting a Mac or a picture of a cat doing something adorable, but instead I'll actually help you. Unless you plan on building your PC yourself (which doesn't sound possible for you), get a windows laptop or a mac desktop/laptop. Really. You could get a GREAT mac for the price range you're talking about, not just a bare bones model.

http://www.bigplansbigcrash.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/cat-1.jpg

raidersfan86
05-01-2007, 05:28 PM
i think #teenchat on EFNet is missing a contributing spammer. you didn't say anything in this post that's verifiably true, and you thought you needed all caps to be wrong. why even hit post?

YOU ARE JUST A PC FANbOY R NT YOU

YOUR JUST JEALLOUS BECUASE MAX R COOL HAV U SEEN THE LATEST COMMERCIALS THE ONE GHUY IS SO MUCH COOLER THAN THE OLD GUY!!!!

Moses
05-01-2007, 05:46 PM
YOU ARE JUST A PC FANbOY R NT YOU

YOUR JUST JEALLOUS BECUASE MAX R COOL HAV U SEEN THE LATEST COMMERCIALS THE ONE GHUY IS SO MUCH COOLER THAN THE OLD GUY!!!!

This can't be serious, can it?

Freddy G
05-04-2007, 11:10 AM
I see that i can get good deals on Lenovo's through OSU.

All i know about them is that they make the IBM laptops.

Thoughts? good? bad?

Freddy G
05-05-2007, 02:47 PM
I see that i can get good deals on Lenovo's through OSU.

All i know about them is that they make the IBM laptops.

Thoughts? good? bad?


I know you guys are around here somewehere.

awfullyquiet
05-05-2007, 02:49 PM
One of my friends is a QA rep for lenova. they're pretty much better than dell in every case.

serious. if you don't get a mac, get a lenova. it's how it rolls.

awfullyquiet
05-05-2007, 02:51 PM
3 years ago my parents got me a dell laptop for my graduation gift(high school). so far it hasn't had any problems. no viruses, spyware or lagginess. runs the same as when i received it. i dont have it with me at the moment but im sure the model is not produced anymore. but there goes my 2 cents.

the virus spyware and latency only have to do with the fact you don't spend ever waking moment looking at porn.

seriously.

some stupid statistic: seventy percent of all computers infected with spyware or viruses were infected from pornographic sites.

j05son
05-05-2007, 10:02 PM
I know you guys are around here somewehere.

I would get it. Great computers, they are light and durable [one of the reasons many corporations use them] and you can get a good deal on them with OSU...

It's nice how colleges who rape you over four year's worth of tuition give you reasonable deals on computers...

ncst8fan83
05-05-2007, 10:49 PM
IBM is about to cut 150k US jobs. Also, Lenovo is a Chinese company that has taken over the laptop component of IBM's services. A Lenovo computer does NOT equal an IBM laptop. It's maybe a step up from an HP/Compaq. From my experiences, I'd go with a Dell, Gateway, Toshiba, or Acer before I'd get a Lenovo. Just personal preference though. You really just need to compare and contrast different systems. Always remember that you get what you pay for.

awfullyquiet
05-05-2007, 11:00 PM
IBM is about to cut 150k US jobs. Also, Lenovo is a Chinese company that has taken over the laptop component of IBM's services. A Lenovo computer does NOT equal an IBM laptop. It's maybe a step up from an HP/Compaq. From my experiences, I'd go with a Dell, Gateway, Toshiba, or Acer before I'd get a Lenovo. Just personal preference though. You really just need to compare and contrast different systems. Always remember that you get what you pay for.

Probably closer to 100k jobs. But that's in the IBM Global division, which was ridiculously mismanaged and bloated in the first place. They lowballed all contracts and have yet to make a dent in consulting.


Lenovo albiet being foreign owned, just essentially bought the division from IBM in name only. It's still the same product. Same standards.

JSimmsy21
05-06-2007, 12:20 AM
IBM is about to cut 150k US jobs. Also, Lenovo is a Chinese company that has taken over the laptop component of IBM's services. A Lenovo computer does NOT equal an IBM laptop. It's maybe a step up from an HP/Compaq. From my experiences, I'd go with a Dell, Gateway, Toshiba, or Acer before I'd get a Lenovo. Just personal preference though. You really just need to compare and contrast different systems. Always remember that you get what you pay for.

I have a compaq. I love it. I've only had one problem what-so-ever and that was a power surge that fried my power supply and motherboard. I get great download speeds. I always have great ping when I game and right now, i'm using my buddies Gateway [with similar high speed broadband] and I can tell that mine is MUCH quicker.

I personally think it's all preference. Lenovo is a good company.

ncst8fan83
05-06-2007, 12:25 AM
I have a compaq. I love it. I've only had one problem what-so-ever and that was a power surge that fried my power supply and motherboard. I get great download speeds. I always have great ping when I game and right now, i'm using my buddies Gateway [with similar high speed broadband] and I can tell that mine is MUCH quicker.

I personally think it's all preference. Lenovo is a good company.

download speeds has nothing to do with the PC whatsoever. That's all your ISP's doing. If you want great download speeds, go sit at IBM for 10 minutes. you can download entire dvds in 3 seconds with all their OC3 lines. I know there aren't a ton of computer savvy people, but this has nothing to do with your PC. Just wanted to point that out. And compaqs suck balls. Continue...

bantx
05-06-2007, 12:35 AM
he knows everything about computers ask this guy

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s232/pahonigman/funnylookingdude.jpg

bantx
05-06-2007, 12:38 AM
oh and im using this computer right now it has no fan so i tends to catch on fire but thats why you have a fan near by. and if it breaks nothing but a little glue wont fix i recommend this

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u227/oddjob666/397_2006-07-262017_36_2183302_Telef.gif

Vince Lombardi
05-06-2007, 12:40 AM
Vince: i light your machine on fire. but not before i recognize that it's a good option for people who know little about computers and don't need a ton of functionality. once you get past there, it's a better argument between the various options.

haha, you wouldn't light my machine on fire. The popular misconception that macs can't be hot rodded and are for simpletons only is laughable. My machine is no ordinary mac and has very few of the stock components left in it. Granted, modding, whether for PC or Mac, is not for most people, so I definitely wouldn't recommend any computer based on that merit to most folks. I would however recommend a mac to anybody based on the fact that they simply work without a lot of fuss and can do anything a PC can do, with the exception that hardcore gaming is not a thriving industry for macs (not that macs couln't handle it). And, if for some strange reason someone actually wants to use Microsoft software, they can do that on their mac as well.

ncst8fan83
05-06-2007, 12:49 AM
coughcoughlinuxcoughcough

Billingsley26
05-06-2007, 01:25 AM
I work at Staples, and honestly I would not recommend Vista right now. Out of 11 laptops on display 7 crashed the following day we put them out. Let MS work out the kinks first, then get it later on. I would recommend a Mac, but it depends on what you want to do. Macs are better, I think they are for dumbasses (not literally, but compare using a MAc to Vista, and Mac are so much easier to operate). I like Macs for the media purposes. Editing movies, photos etc. There was a Toshiba out there, might be a little dated, but I believe it was the VA-9, intel core 2 duo, 2gb of ram, 120 gb hard drive, i dont remember exactly what the specs are, but that was a solid machine to me. I would say go Mac, but you may not want to spend that much. IBM are allright, Im pretty sure many schools have things with them ,and they can get them for cheap, so you can probably find a great deal on them, and you wont go wrong with it.

jayceheathman
05-06-2007, 01:30 AM
Buy the most expensive one you can afford. More likely than not it will have all the things you need.