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briz5x
04-28-2007, 09:53 AM
Adam Schefter on NFL live just said the Pats have the uperhand in the Moss sweepstakes, apparently the Pats have offered a conditional 4th round pick for Moss who really wants to go to NE and will only restructure for NE but the raiders still want a day one pick. Negotiations ongoing, all the Pats would have to do is offer a 3rd and Moss would likely be a Patriot. They should offer a 2008 3rd rounder.

Vikes99ej
04-28-2007, 09:56 AM
I don't believe you.

RaiderNation
04-28-2007, 09:57 AM
hope its real

The Unseen
04-28-2007, 10:01 AM
What the heck do they think they're doing? Getting THREE WRs off of FA/trades?

GB12
04-28-2007, 10:05 AM
******** .

briz5x
04-28-2007, 10:05 AM
What the heck do they think they're doing? Getting THREE WRs off of FA/trades?

i honestly think this has more to do with Moss, i think he wants a ring and is lobbying to go to NE. The pats would probably cut Caldwell and Gaffney.

Play Hard
04-28-2007, 10:07 AM
pull the trigger

ninerfan
04-28-2007, 10:11 AM
well if the pats cant turn him round then he's got no chance - DO IT

princefielder28
04-28-2007, 10:11 AM
What about Green Bay???

Jay
04-28-2007, 10:14 AM
If it is a "conditional 4th rounder" then that would mean it is a 2008 pick, so I say DO IT, and DO IT NOW.

And the Pats would cut Kelley Washington before they cut Gaffney or Caldwell...

TitleTown088
04-28-2007, 10:15 AM
YAY!!.......

ElectricEye
04-28-2007, 10:16 AM
If it is a "conditional 4th rounder" then that would mean it is a 2008 pick, so I say DO IT, and DO IT NOW.

And the Pats would cut Kelley Washington before they cut Gaffney or Caldwell...

I agree. If it's a conditional 4th, we really don't have much to loose. Man. This would be great.
Although I skeptical without a link.
EDIT: Just found this.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/27/SPGMEPH76G2.DTL
Nothing that strong. And it says they want more than a conditional 4th.

Raiderz4Life
04-28-2007, 10:25 AM
Do It Damnit!!!!

miamichamp_305
04-28-2007, 10:52 AM
So, let me get this straight. After this they would have:

WR-Randy Moss
WR-Donte Stallworth
WR-Wes Welker
WR-Kelley Washington
WR-Troy Brown
WR-Chad Jackson
WR-Reche Caldwell
WR-Jabar Gaffney

That's 8 WR's!!!!! Damn them Pats!!

Jay
04-28-2007, 10:59 AM
Brown and Washington would probably be gone, as would Caldwell or Gaffney (I'd rather keep Gaffney).

That would certainly be a nice problem to have. :)

ElectricEye
04-28-2007, 11:02 AM
Brown and Washington would probably be gone, as would Caldwell or Gaffney (I'd rather keep Gaffney).

That would certainly be a nice problem to have. :)

It would be....still, it could be a problem. We saw last year that not giving Brady time to work with the receivers could be an issue. Granted, the guys we had last year were a lot less talented, but still, could be something to look out for should this go down.

M1Koter
04-28-2007, 11:05 AM
please let NE have him, keep him out of GB

McNabbFan2009
04-29-2007, 12:13 AM
unreal...randy is worth more than a 3rd round

fenikz
04-29-2007, 12:23 AM
but no one will give more than a 4th for him, & thats the conundrum

bored of education
04-29-2007, 12:25 AM
all of a sudden pats were on the clock late 3rd and it changed to raiders and i had no clue what was going on and i thought it was for moss. lol i was soo confused with trades and stuff today.

umphrey
04-29-2007, 01:34 AM
I hope he goes to NE so the GB rumors stop...he's not coming here, our WR situation simply doesn't allow it.

BlindSite
04-29-2007, 01:53 AM
Source?

10 char

dhoe20
04-29-2007, 03:24 AM
Why would the Raiders trade Moss after drafting JaMarcus? It'd make sense if they had just drafted CJ but not anymore.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 03:52 AM
Another link
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/04/29/there_may_be_interest_in_gathering_moss/

21ST
04-29-2007, 07:02 AM
If the Pats got moss that would be crazy

draftguru151
04-29-2007, 07:38 AM
all of a sudden pats were on the clock late 3rd and it changed to raiders and i had no clue what was going on and i thought it was for moss. lol i was soo confused with trades and stuff today.

New England traded their third-round selection (91st overall, used to select Mario Henderson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Henderson)) in exchange for Oakland's first seventh-round selection in this year's draft (211th overall) and their third-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft).

Wasn't that.

luckyjackaubrey
04-29-2007, 07:39 AM
I would hope he perished in an airplane crash enroute. Sorry, but I do. Trade him to the CFL.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 08:13 AM
Another link.
http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots/view.bg?articleid=197429&srvc=sports
A deal was in place apparently, and the Patriots were ready to pull the trigger, but the Raiders got cold feet. Still possible, but nothing imminent. I really hope we end up getting him.

Addict
04-29-2007, 08:24 AM
wow... that's huge for NE. Hopefully we'll see a little more motivated Randy

Nalej
04-29-2007, 09:24 AM
I'm crossing my fingers.
I'd like to see what Brady looks like finally with an elite WR.
I believe that Moss' decline (stats wise) was do to the woe-ful Raiders.

c'mon BB... make it happen

Nalej
04-29-2007, 09:28 AM
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10156954

Apparently, it's already done.
Pending a physical by Moss.

bernbabybern820
04-29-2007, 09:31 AM
Wow. I'll still always be a Randy Moss fan though no matter where he goes.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 09:34 AM
Wow. I'll still always be a Randy Moss fan though no matter where he goes.

I'm a Moss fan AND a Patriots fan. So I'm ecstatic. Really hope this is true.

liquidswords
04-29-2007, 09:34 AM
Moss to NE for a 4th... it's official. Schefter just reported it.

nvot9
04-29-2007, 09:40 AM
I don't know why NE would do this, horrible trade for them. They get a ballhogging mouth to go with their 5 other WR's...I guess they really didn't give anything up for him, but still, I think it will only hurt them

Jay
04-29-2007, 09:42 AM
This is AMAZING!! Randy Moss, Dante Stallworth, Wes Welker, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney and Chad Jackson. What a group of receivers.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 09:42 AM
This officially nullifies the crap first day we had.

boisefan
04-29-2007, 09:43 AM
Its true, Moss is at NE getting a physical.

Saw it on NFL Network.

Sveen
04-29-2007, 09:43 AM
#110 or #127 goes to Oakland. Good for deal for both teams. Oakland gets rid of a player that doesn't want to be there and gets a 4th rounder. New England gets another weapon for Tom Brady and have convinced Randy Moss to restructure his contract.

Nalej
04-29-2007, 09:44 AM
This officially nullifies the crap first day we had.


Agreed. He better pass that physical!
If so, Massachusetts has a good chance to win the Super Bowl and World Series in the same year... again

Windy
04-29-2007, 09:46 AM
it took long enough. i knew after we drafted higgins that it was only a matter of hours before he was gone.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 09:46 AM
Randy Moss...I can't believe it man. Even if he isn't the dominant force he once was, he's still a top 5 wide receiver when he's motivated.

Jay
04-29-2007, 09:48 AM
#110 or #127 goes to Oakland. Good for deal for both teams. Oakland gets rid of a player that doesn't want to be there and gets a 4th rounder. New England gets another weapon for Tom Brady and have convinced Randy Moss to restructure his contract.

Hopefully #127 because I REALLY want Zak DeOssie. If we walk out of this draft with Brandon Meriweather, Zak DeOssie and Randy Moss, I will be a very happy man.

bernbabybern820
04-29-2007, 09:49 AM
I don't know why NE would do this, horrible trade for them. They get a ballhogging mouth to go with their 5 other WR's...I guess they really didn't give anything up for him, but still, I think it will only hurt them

NE doesn't work like that. They are either going to cut you or deactivate you if you do anything that hurts the team.

Moses
04-29-2007, 09:50 AM
Nice pickup by the Patriots. He's going to be very successful in New England. I can't think of a better place for him to go.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 09:50 AM
Hopefully #127 because I REALLY want Zak DeOssie. If we walk out of this draft with Brandon Meriweather, Zak DeOssie and Randy Moss, I will be a very happy man.

I don't think any Pats fans could do anything but smile if that goes down.
DeOssie, and it completes the best draft weekend I've experienced in recent memory.
Sportscenter just reported it as well :)
Morts on talking about it.
EDIT: It is 127 being sent.

Jay
04-29-2007, 09:51 AM
Chris Mortensen just said it was #127!! Sick!!

bored of education
04-29-2007, 09:52 AM
A group of solid receivers, no true number 1. Unless Moss decides to play. Stallworth healthy, chad Jackson healthy as the deuce. welker as the Slot. Solid. but compared colston, henderson, meachem or wayne, harison, tony g jr or holt, bruce, bennett its pales in comaprison.

sweetness34
04-29-2007, 09:52 AM
Good, keep him out of the NFC. I think he'll flourish in NE because Billy Boy won't take any crap. That and Randy might actually be motivated to play for a winning team.

NE has really improved their team this offseason, good lord. Getting Thomas and Moss, um yea look out Indy.

oakraiders2007
04-29-2007, 09:52 AM
It's true, the deal is done. :)

suposed2bsweated
04-29-2007, 09:53 AM
and your new mostly used team on madden 08 will be... dun dun dunna....

boisefan
04-29-2007, 09:54 AM
Good, keep him out of the NFC. I think he'll flourish in NE because Billy Boy won't take any crap. That and Randy might actually be motivated to play for a winning team.

NE has really improved their team this offseason, good lord. Getting Thomas and Moss, um yea look out Indy.

I fully agree. He will be motivated to play for NE, we all know he wasn't that excited to play in Oakland.

Nalej
04-29-2007, 09:54 AM
Pats have told Moss that the first moment he starts with his old antics... he's cut.
I like the trade (only a 4th for a HOF who can still play)... but I like the fact that he's gettin' put in his place still.

Step out of line... find yourself cut. That simple.


Sidenote... Tom Brady reportly was giggling like a school girl when he heard the news. haha...


MADDEN 08 IS GONNA BE GREAT!

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 09:55 AM
Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Caldwell, Gaffney, and Jackson.
Elite. Not the best, but pretty damned close. Add Maroney into that...and jeez..

Wootylicous
04-29-2007, 09:57 AM
Tom Brady will certainly have some fun with this guy up in NE

Santos-Stanton47
04-29-2007, 09:58 AM
i heard this at 1015 yesterday, it was reported by schefter yesterday but kinda on the DL..on radiostation 850 in boston, i heard it and they were sayin only three teams called oak. only NE was going for a high second day pick, it was in place yesterday but Al Davis thought he was going to get a better pick, but after a really good draft by Oakland, we pulled the trigger and he's coming. they were sayin a 4th and 6th, but i guess its just a 4th


im SO ECSTATIC

Nitschke-Hawk
04-29-2007, 09:58 AM
They'll be running more spread formations than the Florida Gators.

JoeMontainya
04-29-2007, 10:03 AM
Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Caldwell, Gaffney, and Jackson.
Elite. Not the best, but pretty damned close. Add Maroney into that...and jeez..

Moss might start problems
Stallworth is ALLWAYS hurt
Welker is an ok slot.
Caldwell cost them the playoffs, nothing special, great depth as a #4 guy
Gaffney only had 1 good game all last year
Jackson might miss alot of the season with his knee injury

Potentially this is one of the best if not the best IMO. Just keep Moss in line and Stallworth healthy.

frogstomp
04-29-2007, 10:05 AM
**** this ****.

Well, Wildcard or bust for my Jets for the next 2-3 years.

LionSmack
04-29-2007, 10:10 AM
I've got to believe that at some point Moss will not be cool with Brady completing passes to 10 different receivers. He'll want to be at least 4 of those 10.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 10:12 AM
I've got to believe that at some point Moss will not be cool with Brady completing passes to 10 different receivers. He'll want to be at least 4 of those 10.

The Moss Ratio.
Well, if he gets open, he'll get more than that. But that could be an issue. But maybe he's done with those days.
EDIT:And Mort just said Randy ran a 4.28 40 this weekend. Keyshawn said it....but I didn't believe it.

suposed2bsweated
04-29-2007, 10:14 AM
he's still running 4.2's... the league is in trouble if he's motivated

briz5x
04-29-2007, 10:14 AM
Moss's 40 yard time was clocked at 4.29-4.30 when he was training a few weeks ago.

Jay
04-29-2007, 10:15 AM
They just reported that Randy Moss ran a 4.29 and 4.33 40 yard dash last week. SICK!!

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 10:16 AM
If he can run a 4.2, theres no way he'll fail that physical.

hugegmenfan
04-29-2007, 10:18 AM
basically the trade was mcnown and mike williams for randy moss if u think about it

throwback54milkman
04-29-2007, 10:18 AM
how do the pats have all this money?

Nalej
04-29-2007, 10:19 AM
They just reported that Randy Moss ran a 4.29 and 4.33 40 yard dash last week. SICK!!


wow... I thought he had slowed down to a 4.4
When does the season start?!

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 10:20 AM
how do the pats have all this money?

We don't ever spend anything. This offseason has been the exception. But Moss is restructuring.

gang_green03
04-29-2007, 10:21 AM
This is not good, if Moss is rejuvinated in NE as I think he will.

Hopefully he's completely done cause a Randy Moss that's "trying" scares me.

ks_perfection
04-29-2007, 10:28 AM
Apparently the raiders backed out of the deal. http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/1292

nvot9
04-29-2007, 10:30 AM
Everyone's looking at this on the surface, yea Moss WAS a great player, but he's a 30 year old, show-offy, cry baby who has had the 3 worst years of his life in the last three years, last year being his worst in which he racked up just 3 TD's in 13 games. Belichek runs a straight laced, no-nonsense, my way or the high way team, and with Brady and up and comer Maroney stealing the spot light, where does Moss's ego fit in? Granted, they gave nothing up to get him, but you have to figure, he's obviously not the same Moss as he used to be if all it takes is a fricken 4th rounder to get him. I'm saying this right now, Moss is at the downfall of his career and will be nothing with the Pats. He'll get nor more than 600-700 receiving yards and maybe 5 TD's. Trust me when I say you're not getting the 23 year old future hall of famer, you are getting the 30 year old whose on the brink of getting suspended and fined more times than he has career TD's.

frogstomp
04-29-2007, 10:33 AM
That makes me happy and sad... happy, because I don't wanna face him twice a year, sad because he's a complete beast, and it would be amazing to watch him play again...

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 10:34 AM
Apparently the raiders backed out of the deal. http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/1292

Old news. That was the word this morning, but the deal is solid.

frogstomp
04-29-2007, 10:35 AM
Everyone's looking at this on the surface, yea Moss WAS a great player, but he's a 30 year old, show-offy, cry baby who has had the 3 worst years of his life in the last three years, last year being his worst in which he racked up just 3 TD's in 13 games. Belichek runs a straight laced, no-nonsense, my way or the high way team, and with Brady and up and comer Maroney stealing the spot light, where does Moss's ego fit in? Granted, they gave nothing up to get him, but you have to figure, he's obviously not the same Moss as he used to be if all it takes is a fricken 4th rounder to get him. I'm saying this right now, Moss is at the downfall of his career and will be nothing with the Pats. He'll get nor more than 600-700 receiving yards and maybe 5 TD's. Trust me when I say you're not getting the 23 year old future hall of famer, you are getting the 30 year old whose on the brink of getting suspended and fined more times than he has career TD's.

He ran a 4.29 40. Really, other than diminished speed, I don't see how people could think his game has suffered... he just didn't care in Oakland. Moss is so physically gifted it isn't even funny, and if he's actually willing to smarten up, I could see him leading the league in yards and TD's.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 10:37 AM
Done deal folks. And they verify the 4.29 yet again :)

Zim3031
04-29-2007, 11:08 AM
Wow, maybe Revis wasn't such a bad pick.

oakraiders2007
04-29-2007, 11:10 AM
Patriots to acquire Randy Moss

Randy Moss' days as a Raider appear to be done. Oakland has reportedly agreed to send the disgruntled wide receiver to the Patriots for a fourth-round pick and a 2008 first-rounder.

from yahoo.com...

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 11:25 AM
Patriots to acquire Randy Moss

Randy Moss' days as a Raider appear to be done. Oakland has reportedly agreed to send the disgruntled wide receiver to the Patriots for a fourth-round pick and a 2008 first-rounder.

from yahoo.com...

What? That hasn't been mentioned anywhere else.
If that true, the deal with the 49'ers is looking better..

Nalej
04-29-2007, 11:34 AM
WRONG! NFL network have stated the done deal is just for a 4th rounder.
The trade the Raiders initially wanted was for a first rounder (08) but the Pats didn't bite.
Finally they settled for just a fourth rounder 'cause they wanted to trade him
and the Pats was the only team Moss said he would re-structure his contract for.
That's big because no one wanted to pick up Moss' big contract.

ElectricEye
04-29-2007, 12:06 PM
Yeah, I still haven't seen a definitive report on this. But I'm leaning towards the first rounder not being involved. Well, I hope anyway.

eacantdraft
04-29-2007, 12:38 PM
Enjoy Jake Pat fans. It will be fun watching what Jake does when he think he isn't getting the ball enough. We all know the Patriots are a spread the ball around offense and Tom Brady loves to make sure several guys get the ball.

What happens when the Randy Ratio doesn't happen?

luckyjackaubrey
04-29-2007, 12:39 PM
I do not want to be the NY Yankees of the NFL . If you are a true Pats fan you appreciate not just the 3 championships but the class guys that did it. The overacheivers the good guys, the ones you are proud to root for. I will not be rooting for Randy Moss and I have rooted for Tommy Hodson and every other no talent we have trotted out there for the last 30 years. There are some things You have to draw the line on. I am not teaching my kids that following the whiny self centered ways of a puke like R Moss is an option.
Give me Troy Brown and I'll take my chances.

benchod
04-29-2007, 01:33 PM
You know, looking back on Randy's career, he's never really been a problem when the team is winning. His problems were exacerbated when he went to the Raiders, a team that was clearly on the way down.

He's going to NE, a perennial winner and a team that managed to deal with the 'cancerous Corey Dillon.' Apparently, Moss was even told that he's going to be cut if he gives them any problem, and he is restructuring his deal too. Who's willing to put money that NE will put language into the contract that makes it pretty damn easy to cut him minimal cap penalties.

Its obvious that he wants out and he will do anything to get out of Oakland, and as long as he wins, he won't care about the Randy Ratio (only happened under Tice anyways)

Also, comparing NE to the Yankees is ********. There's a salary cap in the NFL and a better comparison would be the Redskins, who sign every aging FA and throw away their draft picks to win now with no regard to the future.

eacantdraft
04-29-2007, 02:55 PM
You know, looking back on Randy's career, he's never really been a problem when the team is winning. His problems were exacerbated when he went to the Raiders, a team that was clearly on the way down.

He's going to NE, a perennial winner and a team that managed to deal with the 'cancerous Corey Dillon.' Apparently, Moss was even told that he's going to be cut if he gives them any problem, and he is restructuring his deal too. Who's willing to put money that NE will put language into the contract that makes it pretty damn easy to cut him minimal cap penalties.

Its obvious that he wants out and he will do anything to get out of Oakland, and as long as he wins, he won't care about the Randy Ratio (only happened under Tice anyways)

Also, comparing NE to the Yankees is ********. There's a salary cap in the NFL and a better comparison would be the Redskins, who sign every aging FA and throw away their draft picks to win now with no regard to the future.

How can you compare the Patriots to the Redskins since almost every move the Redskins make don't work out and the Patriots have won 3 Super Bowls this season.

Empire
04-29-2007, 03:15 PM
Enjoy Jake Pat fans. It will be fun watching what Jake does when he think he isn't getting the ball enough. We all know the Patriots are a spread the ball around offense and Tom Brady loves to make sure several guys get the ball.

What happens when the Randy Ratio doesn't happen?

What's funny is that you don't even know what the Randy Ratio is.

Go ahead and google it, maybe you'll learn something.

Shiver
04-29-2007, 03:27 PM
By this time next year, Randy Moss will have silenced any critics he had. This addition is like the Corey Dillon one. He will go to New England, won't cause any trouble, and will be ultra productive.

luckyjackaubrey
04-29-2007, 03:43 PM
By this time next year, Randy Moss will have silenced any critics he had. This addition is like the Corey Dillon one. He will go to New England, won't cause any trouble, and will be ultra productive.

I disagree. A player with that talent needed to become a leader of any team he was part of, not whine and be moved to another situation. A truly special player would find a way to make the team better. Being a good teamate in a trying situation is just as career defining as winning with a winning team. Three superbowls without anyone near Moss' talent level at his position is proof enough to me already that little to no credit should or will go his way if the Pats hang up banner #4 this year.

It will be the least memorable of all for many if it does happen.

Jay
04-29-2007, 03:43 PM
I can't think of an offseason that has made me more excited than this one. Our draft was a throw-away, it's as if the Pats didn't even care, but adding Randy Moss and now having 5 day one picks next year. We are so set for another long run.

Jay
04-29-2007, 03:52 PM
I disagree. A player with that talent needed to become a leader of any team he was part of, not whine and be moved to another situation. A truly special player would find a way to make the team better. Being a good teamate in a trying situation is just as career defining as winning with a winning team. Three superbowls without anyone near Moss' talent level at his position is proof enough to me already that little to no credit should or will go his way if the Pats hang up banner #4 this year.

It will be the least memorable of all for many if it does happen.

He'll get with the program. It's going to be just like Corey Dillon. I guarantee we get 4-5 really, really good years out of him. The second he puts on a uniform he will be the best receiver to ever wear a Pats jersey. He KNOWS he has a chance to come here and be on one of the biggest stages of them all and become a LEGEND. He really wants this. I know he'll be great. Anything less than 70 catches, 1200 yards and 9 TD's would be SHOCKING to me...

nvot9
04-29-2007, 05:03 PM
It's just funny how you all talk of Randy Moss as if he's now a changed man, he's now a hard working and determined athlete. He's still and always will be a punk. Now I personally unlike any other person, think this trade will bite the Pats in the ass, but to disagree with that is perfectly normal and understandable, he could very easily be a good player with them, but to say he's a hard working and respectable athlete is BS.

Another thing, we all know Randy loves the ball, well Tom Brady's a spread the offense kinda guy, and now that the Pats have 73 Wide Receivers, how many times a game is Randy gunna be gettin the ball? Probably not as much as he wants...

Now again, nothing's set in stone, but I'm just making some observations.

Don Vito
04-29-2007, 05:12 PM
Well we only gave up a 4th for him, and that is a pretty good value for a 4th round pick. He has some of the best skills of any NFL wideout and if he does indeed get his head on straight he could be a huge asset for the Pats. Plus having a great talent like Moss around, he will make the rest of our WR corps better. Our depth chart will probably be Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Caldwell, Gaffney, and Kelly Washington. Throw in Chad Jackson and that is one of the most talented (and underacheiving lol) WR groups in the NFL.

Bigburt63
04-29-2007, 05:39 PM
The only reason I can see him not putting up crazy numbers (75, 1200, 10) is because our system has the ball being spread around alot. Also, Moss clearly doesnt have the personality type to become a team leader like he was needed to be in minny and oakland. he doesnt have to be that team leader here, he can just show up and play and probably most important win games

doingthisinsteadofwork
04-29-2007, 06:09 PM
finally hes out of Oakland.

NIN1984
04-29-2007, 06:28 PM
I'm happy he's gone, JaMarcus Russell will be the face of the Raiders not some WR. But I think Moss will be fine in NE even if he doesn't get a lot of stats it won't matter if the Patriots are winning and I'm sure they will be.

benchod
04-29-2007, 06:46 PM
How can you compare the Patriots to the Redskins since almost every move the Redskins make don't work out and the Patriots have won 3 Super Bowls this season.

Where did I compare the Patriots to the Redskins?

The poster above me compared the Patriots to the Yankees, and I said it was a stupid comparison to make and compared the Redskins to the Yankees.

Learn to read.

geaux tigers
04-29-2007, 09:15 PM
Moss took roughly a $5mil paycut. anyone taking that kind of paycut is ready to play some ball.

expect a 1200+ 10+td season.

locseti
04-29-2007, 09:23 PM
Moss took roughly a $5mil paycut. anyone taking that kind of paycut is ready to play some ball.

expect a 1200+ 10+td season.

So he turns it on, and turns it off, according to how he feels? Doesen't give a hundred percent? He should've been MORE motivated because he was making more money. Didn't even earn that money.

Some said Randy Moss was going to break all of Jerry Rice's records, and surpass Rice as the greatest receiver of all time. Rice would never have acted the way Moss has.

bantx
04-29-2007, 09:29 PM
great brady has more weapons, for every new wr he gets, hes going to have another kid, friggen man whoree

Football Fan
04-29-2007, 11:27 PM
Excellent pick up for the patriots and what a bargain. I am so pissed the pack didnt pick him up. They really screwed up missing all oportunities to upgrade the offence the whole off season and draft. This blunder on there part really takes the cake.
Enjoy the impact Moss provides to your offence at the cost of a lousy 4th round pick.

eacantdraft
04-30-2007, 07:24 AM
Moss took roughly a $5mil paycut. anyone taking that kind of paycut is ready to play some ball.

expect a 1200+ 10+td season.

Not with the offense the Patriots run. Expect some explosive moments (and I don't mean on the Patroits offense) from Jake.

ElectricEye
04-30-2007, 07:29 AM
Not with the offense the Patriots run. Expect some explosive moments (and I don't mean on the Patroits offense) from Jake.

It's not impossible for him to put up some numbers in our offense. While we do like to spread it around quite a bit, and we always will, Troy Brown had 101 catches and 1200 yards back in 2001. Times have changed, and we have quite a bit more talent at wide receiver now.
In terms of projecting his numbers in our offense, I would say he has a good chance at 1200 yards and 10 TD's, depending upon how effective the running game is.

Jay
04-30-2007, 07:37 AM
Randy Moss gave up roughly $18,000,000 in guaranteed money to come to the Patriots. He has been read the riot act. In the locker room, he is said to be a great teammate and a quiet guy. The Patriots are different: they have a program, they have consistency and they have something Randy Moss does not have, and craves: Super Bowl rings.

He walked into Oakland as the savior, as the face of the franchise, as the guy who was going to turn it around. He got Kerry Collins and Aaron Brooks throwing him footballs.

He'll walk into New England as a nobody who has accomplished nothing in their eyes. No one is going to be awestruck by him at all. He's just another guy, and they don't need him. And he's been told he's got one shot, and if he acts up, he's gone. And that's $6,500,000 this year and 11,500,000 next year that gets pissed out the window.

So a simply question is to be asked: why would he take that risk?

It's that simple. Corey Dillon, Brian Cox, Ted Washington, these are all guys that came in with some baggage and they all stepped in line and towed the company line. Randy Moss is a goofball. Yeah, he quit on Oakland, and that is inexcusable, but I guess it's hard to get excited going on the field every week knowing your team is horrible and going to lose. Randy Moss is guilty of being competitive. Look at all the good years in Minnesota. When they were winning, the most you heard from him was a loud mouth when he scored a TD. So what? Who doesn't do that?

Bottom line: I'm not worried. AT ALL. Very low risk, VERY high reward.

Jay
04-30-2007, 04:12 PM
They are about to replay Bill Belichick's interview from earlier talking about Randy Moss here:

http://www.weei.com

He's pretty candid and a lot different talking to these guys than what you normally get out of him... very insiteful too...

Phrost
04-30-2007, 04:36 PM
He was made his money...for now...If he dominates expect a pay raise demand, JMO.

briz5x
04-30-2007, 08:53 PM
i bet money that we got our first 1000 yard WR since troy brown. Any takers? I mean if Caldwell can put up 750ish yards what do you think Moss is gunna do?

Don Vito
04-30-2007, 09:05 PM
i bet money that we got our first 1000 yard WR since troy brown. Any takers? I mean if Caldwell can put up 750ish yards what do you think Moss is gunna do?

Ahh poor Reche. Had one truly bad game last year, and it was on the biggest stage. Was our #1 last year, now he looks to be behind Moss, Stallworth, Welker, and maybe Chad Jackson and Gaffney (came on strong last year). We probably will spread the ball around enough for him to grab 20-25 balls.

I think Moss can get 1000 yards, but as I said we really love to spread the ball around so it will be difficult with all of the new talent.