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dcarey20
04-28-2007, 10:47 AM
Just figured we could use a thread to discuss the draft...

First things first, they just booed Brady Quinn when he was introduced by Deion.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 11:01 AM
I am pumped.

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 11:15 AM
Hey I just wanted to post my final overall mock on here as well as the mock section:

Round 1

1 Oakland Raiders- JaMarcus Russell QB LSU

2 Detroit Lions- Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech

3 Cleveland Browns- Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin

4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Gaines Adams DE Clemson

5 Arizona Cardinals- Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma

6 Washington Redskins- LaRon Landry S LSU

7 Minnesota Vikings- Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame

8 Atlanta Falcons- Amobi Okoye DT Louisville

9 Miami Dolphins- Levi Brown OT Penn State

10 Houston Texas- Leon Hall CB Michigan

11 San Francisco 49ers- Adam Carriker DE Nebraska

12 Buffalo Bills- Patrick Willis LB Ole Miss

13 St. Louis Rams- Alan Branch DT Michigan

14 Carolina Panthers- Greg Olsen TE Miami

15 Pittsburgh Steelers- Lawrence Timmons LB Florida State

16 Green Bay Packers- Marshawn Lynch RB California

17 Jacksonville Jaguars- Reggie Nelson S Florida

18 Cincinnati Bengals- Jon Beason LB Miami

19 Tennessee Titans- Ted Ginn Jr. WR Ohio State

20 New York Giants- Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh

21 Denver Broncos- Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas

22 Dallas Cowboys- Robert Meachem WR Tennessee

23 Kansas City Chiefs- Dwayne Bowe WR LSU

24 New England Patriots (f/SEA)- Chris Houston CB Arkansas

25 New York Jets- Jarvis Moss DE Florida

26 Philadelphia Eagles- Michael Griffin S Texas

27 New Orleans Saints- Justin Harrell DT Tennessee

28 New England Patriots- David Harris LB Michigan

29 Baltimore Ravens- Joe Staley OT Central Michigan

30 San Diego Chargers- Brandon Meriweather S Miami

31 Chicago Bears- Dwayne Jarrett WR USC

32 Indianapolis Colts- Aaron Ross CB Texas

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 11:22 AM
I don't like the Russell pick by the Raiders, I smell the next Ryan Leaf...

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 11:24 AM
yea I have Quinn >> Russell but I wont surprise me if Russell goes either way

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 11:28 AM
yea I have Quinn >> Russell but I wont surprise me if Russell goes either way

Russell skyrocketed up the boards after the Sugar Bowl, Leaf did the same after the Rose Bowl. Russell is big, athletic, and big arm, Leaf had ditto. I think the Raiders should have taken Calvin and then get Trent Edwards with the second round pick.

Troj2man
04-28-2007, 11:38 AM
Now that Detroit has selected Calvin Johnson, look for them to take a QB in with the 2nd pick in round 2. Maybe John Beck or Trent Edwards. If I'm the Ravens I'm calling Detroit and telling them that I'm taking Beck(whom they covet) at #29. Then watch Detroit scramble and offer a deal for our pick at #29.

God I love draft day!

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 11:41 AM
they are talking about how everybody was like"Go Offense" about us meaning Lawrence Phillips and we took Ogden I am glad that happened.

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 12:56 PM
I said in the QB @ 29 thread and I'm saying it here, trade up and get Quinn at 10 now!

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 12:58 PM
I wouldnt go nuts about that but it probably wont happen.

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 01:02 PM
I wouldnt go nuts about that but it probably wont happen.

Don't discredit it, come on he's the best QB on the board without a doubt and if they won't have faith in Boller then Quinn would be the guy. Quinn to Baltimore, you heard from me first!

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 02:39 PM
Ozzie needs to get on the phone and try to trade up to the Cowboys at 22. Quinn would be an amazing pick for us. Literally I would be running around my house screaming if we can get him.

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 03:27 PM
DAMNIT. The Browns get 2 top 5 players in the same draft. I'm speechless.

SeanTaylorRIP
04-28-2007, 03:30 PM
One of Staley, Meachem or Bowe better drop to us, also I want Alan Branch.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 03:32 PM
we were talking to Quinn for a while then CLE called Quinns GM so CLE traded to get Quinn.I am not the happiest camper.

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Buck up gents we tried to get him but hey a lot of good talent is still out there so we should be in good shape.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 04:02 PM
true, what would you do if we get Branch? I dont think we can get him because we just re-signed Gregg. But Branch and Ngata is the next generation Stroud and Henderson.

jkpigskin
04-28-2007, 04:06 PM
Pick coming up!
who?
Joe Staley?
Justin Blaylock?
Ryan Kalil?

jkpigskin
04-28-2007, 04:12 PM
from yahoo:

"While Dallas was on the clock at pick No. 22, the Ravens contacted Brady Quinn to say they were trying to complete a trade to take him at 22. Within seconds of getting off the phone with the Ravens, the Browns called to tell Quinn that THEY had made a deal to take him. - 5:05 pm EDT"


WOW

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 04:13 PM
I think Staley will be at our pick. Dont sleep on Ben Grubbs

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 04:18 PM
For the upcoming Ravens pick, there are alot of good options.

Chris Houston is one of my ideal picks for us. Joe Staley would also be nice.

Alan Branch is another guy that would be a great fit. His stock has definitely fallen a bit on my board, but I still have him near a top 20 talent. He would fit our scheme perfectly. He's obviously an exciting pick as he was being hyped as a top 10 pick at one time.

Dwayne Jarrett is another guy I'd be satisfied with. Receiver is not a big need and I have Robert Meachem ranked ahead of him, but I feel Jarrett is EXACTLY the type of player we need. A big, tall, possession guy that will really bolster our redzone offense. I have him as a 25-30 range talent and his production in college justifies him at 29.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 04:23 PM
About Quinn, Notice how we were talking to Quinn not Dallas, I think it was a good move to probably spook out CLE to give up a lot. I read that on a different forum.

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 04:24 PM
I don't see Houston slipping by the Pats but its a toss up between Staley and Branch IMO. Its going to be who's higher on the board but Branch would be a nice addition to a stacked defense. But we need to address the lack of depth at the Tackle position.

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 04:25 PM
Either way, I'm gonna be happy about this pick. There are alot of good fits for us.

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 04:32 PM
About Quinn, Notice how we were talking to Quinn not Dallas, I think it was a good move to probably spook out CLE to give up a lot. I read that on a different forum.

Ozzie Newsome being devious and devious? No............. :D :D :D :D

jkpigskin
04-28-2007, 04:35 PM
mike nolan just stole staley from us

jkpigskin
04-28-2007, 04:45 PM
Ben Grubbs it is!

time to make a sig of him!

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 04:49 PM
jk can you get me a Grubbs sig, you know that I was probably his biggest fan on here. But can you wait because I may want our second round player on it also if you can.

jkpigskin
04-28-2007, 04:53 PM
jk can you get me a Grubbs sig, you know that I was probably his biggest fan on here. But can you wait because I may want our second round player on it also if you can.

if you can find pics of grubbs that are big enough... i cant seem to find any

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 04:57 PM
what size do you need?

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 05:01 PM
Ok I'm not willing to poo-poo the Grubbs selection but check this out:

Ogden - Left Tackle
Brown - Left Guard/Center
Flynn - Center
Vincent - Right Guard
Terry - Tackle
Chester - Right Guard/Center
Rimpf - Right Guard


So why Grubbs and not depth at Tackle? I mean can Grubbs be a Guard/Tackle guy and I'm not aware of or is Vincent on his way out? Any one care to weigh in?

EdReedUnstoppable
04-28-2007, 05:03 PM
I hate Ben Grubbs, and I really hate SF!!! STALEY WAS OURS!!!!

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 05:04 PM
http://www.seniorbowl.com/2007/graphics/photos/07.aub.grubbs.jpg

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 05:15 PM
Well the Ben Grubbs pick definitely suprised me a bit. Very solid pick, I had Grubbs in the 30-35 range, but it wasn't my ideal one. I like him, but there were guys on the board that I rated higher than him. It fills a need, but as I said, there were some guys I liked more, namely Chris Houston. He definitely fits well though, and he solidifies our interior offensive line for the next 5-10 years with Jason Brown and Chris Chester. Mel Kiper seemed to love the pick, and he also seemed so sure it was going to happen.

Welcome to Baltimore, Ben

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 05:22 PM
I guess Vincent is out of here. I mean we could have taken Aaron Sears who has expierence at LT and RT.

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 05:59 PM
I guess Vincent is out of here. I mean we could have taken Aaron Sears who has expierence at LT and RT.

no way...

GRUBBS >>> SEARS

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 06:02 PM
Also, Kolb to the Eagles at 36. Unfortunately that takes him out of the question for us. He's one of my favorite players in the draft.

This pick is extremely surprising. The Eagles taking a quarterback at 36 is a surprise in itself. Then you factor in him going ahead of Stanton, Edwards, and Beck. I feel he's worth this pick, but with all the hype surrounding those guys, it's surprising that he went this early.

A bunch of picks are showing how unpredictable the draft can be.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 06:09 PM
wow I hope we get Moses, I think we can bring him in as a 3rd down pass rusher, I think he will do well since he probably wont get double teamed a lot with our team, he also has a bit of expierence at dropping into coverage so hopefully we have JJ play 1st and 2nd down the Moses play passing downs the he practices his coverage so he can play 3-4 OLB and 4-3 OLB.



^^^^^^^^What do you all think about that.

EdReedUnstoppable
04-28-2007, 06:18 PM
I think we should have taken Justin Blalock at 29 at not Grubbs thats what I think about it.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 06:23 PM
why do you have Blaylock ahead of Grubbs?

I like Grubbs better because he is more mobile and with Terry and Chester it seems like we are going to have more athletic o-lineman. Plus I think McGahee will work better with more athletic lineman.

ccB
04-28-2007, 07:28 PM
I defintely like Grubbs better than Blaylock. Not too pleased with the pick but not dissapointed either.


I really hope we take Josh Wilson with our second. He, Quentin Moses, Charles Johnson, and Iaskjasldsa Alamamsdams Francis are 4 guys I would like here.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 07:42 PM
Josh Wilson just got picked, now I am on the Quentin Moses bandwagon hoping he can develop into a 4-3/3-4 OLB player.

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 07:46 PM
Congratulations to my boy Josh Wilson, who just came off the board to the Seattle Seahawks. I really like this pick for them and for Josh. The Hawks get a guy who can be an instant contributor at nickelback, and may even challenge Kelly Jennings for playing time.

ccB
04-28-2007, 07:49 PM
Well there goes Josh Wilson. I am officially pulling for Marcus McCauley. I have a sinking feeling we end up with Trent Edwards.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 07:54 PM
I read on a different forum that on Sirius Radio McNair wants the FO to get Troy Smith

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 08:25 PM
Well there goes Josh Wilson. I am officially pulling for Marcus McCauley. I have a sinking feeling we end up with Trent Edwards.

I like McCauley and will absolutely hurl if we get Edwards or Smith. Who would have thought that the Ravens would have a horrid first day in the draft? I think our secrets have been leaked too much and used against us. I'm scared......

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 08:41 PM
I am not that happy that we traded down, I really wanted Quentin Moses.

go_ravens94
04-28-2007, 09:03 PM
I was happy about the trade-down, especially when Trent was on the board, but YAMON FIGURS and Staley & Quinn getting stolen? In Ozzie I'm losing faith.

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 09:09 PM
Damnit I'm really pissed right now....Yamon Figurs, what were we thinking? You take him over a guy like Jason Hill out of Washington State? And that's just a better receiver than him. There were guys at other spots that were twice the prospect Figurs is.

UGHH. I hope he proves me wrong, but I'm extremely dissapointed with this.

I can't remember being this mad at a Ravens pick.

****! THERE WERE SO MANY BETTER OPTIONS. I'M SPEECHLESS. DAMNIT OZZIE WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 09:14 PM
looking on the bright side he beat Devin Hester in a race in high school.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 09:16 PM
but he drops to many passes, why dont we just put Patrick Johnson in a time machine.

ccB
04-28-2007, 09:45 PM
Why did we need 2 Guards?

EDIT: Hes going to play RT

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 09:45 PM
we traded up in the late 3rd for that G from IOWA. What the hell is going on in Owings Mills

dcarey20
04-28-2007, 10:01 PM
we traded up in the late 3rd for that G from IOWA. What the hell is going on in Owings Mills

Yanda wasn't a bad pick. He can play tackle for us. He played tackle last year. He just happens to also be able to play guard.

I like this pick for us. Our offensive line should be set for the future:

OT - Terry
OG - Brown
C - Chester
OG - Grubbs
OT - Yanda

The Figurs pick was horrendous. This could have been a great first day without it. Not only did we take him about 40 picks too early, but there were guys like Jason Hill, Aundrae Allison, Charles Johnson, Tank Tyler, Stewart Bradley, and Tanard Jackson on the board. I just don't know what Ozzie was thinking.

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 10:06 PM
I am not sure how good Yanda can play T, I have seen him by most places as a G. I am being optimistic about Figurs, hoping he can be a good pick for us.


Do you think Figurs can play slot WR?

jkpigskin
04-28-2007, 10:16 PM
im perfectly fine with the figurs pick
he adds unbelievable speed to our recievers, and thats an area we lack in (pure speed)

not sure about the Yanda pick as we get 2 guards on day 1?
ive heard Yanda is a technician at Guard but not sure if we need 2

Ravens1991
04-28-2007, 10:20 PM
My theory is after Ogden retires we put Adam Terry at LT and Yanda at RT.

I am starting to be OK w/ the Figurs pick, it was a reach but I am being optimistic that he can develop into a dangerous #3 who can be a amazing deep threat.

EdReedUnstoppable
04-28-2007, 10:47 PM
3 Awful picks IMO, maybe day 2 will be better. And to whoever said McNair wants us to Troy Smith, who cares what McNair wants screw him.

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 10:49 PM
I don't see Figurs figuring into our passing game, I see him as well as some others on the draft coverages see him as strictly a return guy at this stage. Our special teams took a huge blow when Sams got hurt and he's still rehabing and is like to be suspended not to mention is entering his final year. Maybe the front office saw him as this years Devin Hester and at this point thats what we have to hope for. All in all I see this Day 1 results as a future draft and and tomorrow looks more of the same. The brightside is going into the draft we needed depth at the Tackle spot so we did at least attempt to address it. But I see passing on a Ray McDonald, Jason Hill and so on burning us.

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 10:51 PM
3 Awful picks IMO, maybe day 2 will be better. And to whoever said McNair wants us to Troy Smith, who cares what McNair wants screw him.

Jaws said it best when he described Troy Smith as nothing more then a backup QB. Day 2 better have some major sleepers in it or this draft class is going to be a tough sell.

BigDawg819
04-28-2007, 10:56 PM
Here's JBond's list of Day 2 players still out there:

1. Antonio Pittman RB/OSU
2. Tanard Jackson DB/Syracuse
3. Ben Patrick TE/Delaware
4. H.B. Blades LB/Pitt
5. Ryan McBean DT/OK State
6. Brandon Siler LB/Florida
7. Michael Bush RB/Louisville
8. Rufus Alexander LB/Oklahoma
9. Manuel Ramirez OG/Texas
10. Josh Beekman OG/Boston College


If we could make some moves and get a Tanard Jackson and a Blades and/or Alexander this draft may not be so bad after all.

ChewyRaven318
04-29-2007, 12:12 AM
I don't see Figurs figuring into our passing game, I see him as well as some others on the draft coverages see him as strictly a return guy at this stage. Our special teams took a huge blow when Sams got hurt and he's still rehabing and is like to be suspended not to mention is entering his final year. Maybe the front office saw him as this years Devin Hester and at this point thats what we have to hope for. All in all I see this Day 1 results as a future draft and and tomorrow looks more of the same. The brightside is going into the draft we needed depth at the Tackle spot so we did at least attempt to address it. But I see passing on a Ray McDonald, Jason Hill and so on burning us.

I agree, he was probably signed as a return specialist, and if that's the case, it was a good, albeit early pick. So overall, this first day was productive, and I REALLLLY hope we find a sleeper at DE/OLB in later rounds, because we're gonna need someone who can develop. fast.

BigDawg819
04-29-2007, 12:14 AM
I agree, he was probably signed as a return specialist, and if that's the case, it was a good, albeit early pick. So overall, this first day was productive, and I REALLLLY hope we find a sleeper at DE/OLB in later rounds, because we're gonna need someone who can develop. fast.

Brian Robinson out of Texas would be a nice candidate I believe. The problem is all we have left is our comp picks so we can't trade up.

Yung Flippa
04-29-2007, 12:49 AM
Oh man we have to pick up

Tanard Jackson if he falls to us in Round 4
i would be pissed if he was there and passed on him!!!

BigDawg819
04-29-2007, 12:52 AM
After watching this edition of Day 1, the only way to finish is to listen to some Metallica: "Sad But True" and the somewhat ironic to the situation "The God That Failed"

America
04-29-2007, 01:09 AM
Wow this was incredibly dissapointing. I hate this draft.

ccB
04-29-2007, 01:35 AM
I do not hate any of our picks so far.


Ben Grubbs- I was totally against going Guard or center but I was happy we took Grubbs over Blaylock. So even though I did not feel we should go guard first round, atleast we got the best guard available and didnt take Blaylock or Sears because of there ability to play Tackle (which neither will end up as tackles IMO)

Yamon Figurs- Not a fan of this pick either. Pretty big reach but this guy has wheels. I think he can have a "devin hester" type effect right out the gate. He has questionable hands but I think we will be able to utilize him in the passing game every so often.

Marshall Yanda- Apparently he is the RT of the future. The little tape I saw of him made me like him


Id give our draft about a C. If nothing else we atleast finalized our line of the future...

LT- Adam Terry
LG- Jason Brown
C- Chris Chester
RG- Ben Grubbs
RT- Marshall Yanda

That has the potential to be the top O-line in the league within 2-3 years. Absolutely beastly.


I would like to see the Ravens go after Ryan McBean tommorow.

YouNeverKnow
04-29-2007, 01:58 AM
Definitely not a flashy draft but I very much like it.

Grubbs is going to be a stud. If you get a chance to watch the replays of the senior bowl practices do so. Grubbs looked very dominate going one on one with everyone that he faced as far as I can remember. He's going to solidify a position for a long time, which is as much as you can expect for a lower pick like 29.

Figurs probably was a reach, but at least they didn't pick him in the second round like they said they were contemplating (Ravens press conference). He is good insurance for Sams this year, and could be his replacement next year. As well, he may develop into that 4th receiver that we need to stretch the field.

Yanda is a developmental tackle, I think he's similar to Terry from last year in that he needs to hit the NFL weight room but he looks like he could be a solid RT. Plus we really needed someone behind Ogden and Terry this year.

I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Blades in the 4th round, since we seem to be able to develop linebackers like they grow on trees. I am hoping that Smith goes in the early 4th so we don't pick him up.

jkpigskin
04-29-2007, 07:21 AM
LOL


i love how alot of you guys are already calling for ozzie's head on this draft

but remember last year.... we were all freakin out because we past on ko simpson and darnell bing 4 times, but we got the best saftey of the draft in dawan landry

nobody liked the chris chester pick but not we are raving about his speed and we all know hes the furutre

its way to early to write off this draft

SeanTaylorRIP
04-29-2007, 07:35 AM
Next pick will be Josh Beekman lol. Anyways I'm not the biggest supporter of this draft, but I won't bash it. Grubbs is the best pure guard and will start for us, he can't play tackle but he is better than any guard on our roster. Figurs could make a Devin Hester type impact, obviously not that great but he could see a pro bowl as a returner, although Sams isn't dead. Yanda is super versatile but I don't think he projects amazingly at either position, when we traded up there I was sure it was for Ray McDonald but he is gone now. Who would I want to see with our 2 4th rounders: Brandon Silar and Mason Crosby or Fred Bennett, oh and I want Baraka Atkins.

I can't Figurs out this draft!!!

Here's a little taste of Figurs:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynxo7jB0I2Y
I wanted the Ravens to take him so bad, granted I was thinking 5th round but it's all good.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 09:34 AM
Yanda wasn't a bad pick. He can play tackle for us. He played tackle last year. He just happens to also be able to play guard.

I like this pick for us. Our offensive line should be set for the future:

OT - Terry
OG - Brown
C - Chester
OG - Grubbs
OT - Yanda

The Figurs pick was horrendous. This could have been a great first day without it. Not only did we take him about 40 picks too early, but there were guys like Jason Hill, Aundrae Allison, Charles Johnson, Tank Tyler, Stewart Bradley, and Tanard Jackson on the board. I just don't know what Ozzie was thinking.


I like our o-line of the future I think they will be very good.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 10:01 AM
Bottom line with the Figurs pick: I like him as a prospect, and I think he can make a big impact for us. He's like a poor man's Ted Ginn Jr. I also feel that he's the type of player that we needed. A quick, athletic receiver who can contribute in the return game and give us some options on offenes.

BUT, we took him a round too early and we took him over much more accomplished players that could have made a great impact for us.

Overall, I like the draft.

I would have gone with Chris Houston in the first, but Ben Grubbs is a very solid pick who solidifies our interior, and I can't complain about it one bit.

Figurs, I've already said how I feel. A very nice fit for us, but we took him a round too early and over better prospects.

Yanda, I like this pick alot. He can play right tackle, so if Adam Terry is unable to make the transition there, then we have Yanda. If Terry is successful, Yanda could be the successor to Ogden. So with this pick, it appears our entire oline should be set.

Some guys I like on day 2 for us: Tanard Jackson, Troy Smith, Stephen Nicholas

go_ravens94
04-29-2007, 10:13 AM
Bottom line with the Figurs pick: I like him as a prospect, and I think he can make a big impact for us. He's like a poor man's Ted Ginn Jr. I also feel that he's the type of player that we needed. A quick, athletic receiver who can contribute in the return game and give us some options on offenes.

BUT, we took him a round too early and we took him over much more accomplished players that could have made a great impact for us.

Overall, I like the draft.

I would have gone with Chris Houston in the first, but Ben Grubbs is a very solid pick who solidifies our interior, and I can't complain about it one bit.

Figurs, I've already said how I feel. A very nice fit for us, but we took him a round too early and over better prospects.

Yanda, I like this pick alot. He can play right tackle, so if Adam Terry is unable to make the transition there, then we have Yanda. If Terry is successful, Yanda could be the successor to Ogden. So with this pick, it appears our entire oline should be set.

Some guys I like on day 2 for us: Tanard Jackson, Troy Smith, Stephen Nicholas

Hopefully, Troy sMITH falls to us.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 10:21 AM
I heard that McNair on Sirius Radio said he wants to tutor Troy Smith. But he will probably get taken before us.

ChefMike
04-29-2007, 10:27 AM
Well I must say I wasnt ecstatic when I saw the pick (couldnt hear it I was in the poker room at Harrahs) but the first thing that came to mind is we drafted need...not BPA. I don't think Grubbs is going to be a bad pick. I think we should have taken Alan Branch or even traded up to get Staley instead of shifting around all the picks around we did we now don't have as many 2nd day picks.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 11:07 AM
if we didnt just re-sign Gregg I wouldnt have minded Branch.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 11:26 AM
if we didnt just re-sign Gregg I wouldnt have minded Branch.

I wouldn't have minded Branch, even with the re-signing of Gregg.

Anyway, I want Aundrae Allison out of East Carolina at 134. I don't care that we took Figurs, I want Allison. In my mind, this guy is easily BPA at this point. I have him down as a top 60 talent, bnd I really think he has the ability to be a very good receiver. I'm one of those guys that believes that you can never have too many weapons on offense. He'd give us 5 viable options at receiver with Clayton, Mason, Demetrius, and Figurs. He would really help Brian Billick to open up the offense. With all that said, I don't know how realistic it is, but that's who I'm hoping for.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 11:30 AM
Billick said on TV that now McNair now has a lot of expierence in the offense on TV.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 11:54 AM
Antwan Barnes at 134. Really nice pick. Ran a 4.40 at the combine I believe, and he could be a great situational player for us.

I'm hoping for Troy Smith or Aundrae Allison at 137.

America
04-29-2007, 11:55 AM
I'm so glad we got Antwan Barnes. I'm surprised I actually got a pick right.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 11:55 AM
we took Barnes from florida international, souds god replacement for Adalius Thomas.

America
04-29-2007, 11:56 AM
And Mclain!

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 11:56 AM
Le'Ron McClain

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 11:57 AM
nice I like that pick.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 12:01 PM
Le'Ron McClain, great pick. I've been hyping him as a possibility for awhile now, he's been in almost every one of my mocks. He's the perfect replacement for Ovie and could start right away at fullback.

I still can't believe Allison is still on the board.

BigDawg819
04-29-2007, 12:01 PM
I'm loving the 4th round picks and the steering clear of Troy Smith. Unearthing gems on Day 2, its about time the Ravens realized it was draft weekend! :D

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 12:05 PM
yes I agree, do you all think Barnes can replace Adalius Thomas as in a 4-3 OLB and a 3-4 OLB that I have been hoping for.

America
04-29-2007, 12:43 PM
I hope we look S next with Darren Stone a possibility. Or still, we need a 3-4 DE or NT.

ccB
04-29-2007, 12:57 PM
Antwaan Barnes the next Ravens pro bowl LB.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 01:01 PM
TROY SMITH TO THE RAVENS AT 174

Who's with me?

ccB
04-29-2007, 01:11 PM
TROY SMITH TO THE RAVENS AT 174

Who's with me?

Meh, I wouldnt be mad to take a chance on him in the 5th.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 01:17 PM
Antwaan Barnes the next Ravens pro bowl LB.

I love this pick. He can play 4-3 or 3-4 OLB the type of player I wanted for a while. He is explosive, plays with a mean streak, can rush the passer, he is a trash talker http://media.www.beaconnewspaper.com/media/storage/paper540/news/2005/08/29/Sports/Linebacker.Antwan.Barnes.Loves.Running.His.Mouth-970844-page2.shtml like Bart Scott, looks like he belongs on death row :) lol.


I love this pick, I think he is athletic enough to replace Adalius Thomas. I think he can be a stud

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 01:37 PM
HELL YEAH!!!

TROY SMITH IS A RAVEN.

AWESOME VALUE PICK.

WELCOME TO BMORE TROY

http://www.thesportstruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/troy-smith.jpg

ccB
04-29-2007, 01:40 PM
Who didnt see that Troy Smith pick coming from a mile away?


Decent pick. Hes a solid 3rd string guy who has some potential. Its worth a shot to take a chance on him.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 01:55 PM
No doubt it's worth a shot. I love that Ozzie went out and nabbed him. The Ravens are a perfect situation for him. The guy won the Heisman trophy, his production is undeniable. Do I think he's gonna be a star? No. But he's in a situation where he could potentially be a starter for us. It's a great value, as I rated him as a late 3rd-early 4th round guy, and it's a low risk high reward pick.

Troj2man
04-29-2007, 02:02 PM
I really like the Troy Smith pick. To get him in the 5th round was a no brainer. Smith is in a great situation here in Baltimore.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 02:09 PM
what do you want at pick # 207?

go_ravens94
04-29-2007, 02:33 PM
I would love an ILB... Brandon Siler's still on the board. I LOVE these 2nd-day picks. Barnes was WAY underrated.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 02:37 PM
Brandon Siler would be really nice at 207. And I agree go ravens, I am in love with all of these 2nd day picks.

importrx7
04-29-2007, 02:42 PM
Atleast Troy went to a team that will have help around him including a very very very good D. I heard McNair wanted them to pick Troy Smith up, he could be good and with McNair teaching him great value pick Ravens fans.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 02:46 PM
I would like d-line and DB depth. But I love day 2.

Raven Domination
04-29-2007, 02:47 PM
Who didnt see that Troy Smith pick coming from a mile away?


Decent pick. Hes a solid 3rd string guy who has some potential. Its worth a shot to take a chance on him.

He's a solid 3rd stringer for THIS year...but you better believe they'll be grooming him to take over eventually. He'll get his shot, there's no doubt about that. I mean, he only led his team to glory while he was a QB. I'm tired of people bringing up his last game and say he can't play against NFL-type teams when he had stellar games against other colleges that run that type of professional scheme. Troy Smith is a carbon copy of Steve McNair in my eyes. Same arm strength of McNair coming out of college, same play style, etc. I know BigDawg is fuming though...

EDIT: Also, 4 months ago...he was "a Mike Vick who could throw." He was projected as a late-1st, early 2nd round pick. All of a sudden he has one bad game and he's now a 3rd stringer backup. Watch...this kid is gonna be good one day!!

go_ravens94
04-29-2007, 03:06 PM
He's a solid 3rd stringer for THIS year...but you better believe they'll be grooming him to take over eventually. He'll get his shot, there's no doubt about that. I mean, he only led his team to glory while he was a QB. I'm tired of people bringing up his last game and say he can't play against NFL-type teams when he had stellar games against other colleges that run that type of professional scheme. Troy Smith is a carbon copy of Steve McNair in my eyes. Same arm strength of McNair coming out of college, same play style, etc. I know BigDawg is fuming though...

EDIT: Also, 4 months ago...he was "a Mike Vick who could throw." He was projected as a late-1st, early 2nd round pick. All of a sudden he has one bad game and he's now a 3rd stringer backup. Watch...this kid is gonna be good one day!!

I agree!

Also, we just picked Prescott Burgess, which fills in the Thomas spot. Great draft! A

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 03:09 PM
ehh I got Barnes replacing Thomas

ccB
04-29-2007, 03:22 PM
Yeah for sure Barnes will be the starter. I dont like the Burgess pick very much. Solid depth I suppose, I dont think he will make the team.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 04:47 PM
yea I was hoping d-line or DB depth instead of LB depth.

SeanTaylorRIP
04-29-2007, 04:52 PM
Prescott Burgess was an awful pick.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 04:55 PM
who would you rather have had, Brandon Siler or Prescott Burgess?

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 04:57 PM
Brandon Siler easily. I would have loved him. I felt he was a first day prospect.

ChefMike
04-29-2007, 04:58 PM
I would have loved to see us pick up some DL depth too. I think we traded away a lot of picks to move around in the 3rd. Overall I think we did an average job for the Ravens, and I stress for the Ravens, we did a better job filling in NEED then a lot of Teams.

Look at Teams like Houston, Tennessee, NY Giants, Washington they did nothing to really fill any needs that they had and didnt completely take the BPA.

I would have like to see us take a chance on drafting a project like Walter Thomas at DT. I am happy with the way things have fallen for us and I think we should be on top of things come TC.

go_ravens94
04-29-2007, 04:58 PM
Siler. But the Ravens know what they're doing.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 04:59 PM
yea I wouldnt mind Walter Thomas.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 05:00 PM
Oh and about Troy Smith, I can't express how excited I am about this. To get a guy that was as good as he was at OSU with the final pick in the 5th round is awesome. I think he's gonna get a chance to be the future guy, and under McNair's tutaledge(sp?) I think he could be a solid starter.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 05:02 PM
same but at least we got a back up.

EdReedUnstoppable
04-30-2007, 08:52 AM
Now that the dust has settled Ill giv eyou my take on the draft.....

RD1 Ben Grubbs OG, Aubrun

Not the guy I wanted at 29 even after Staley was gone I would have preferred Blalock, however Ozzie and DeCosta are excited about it so Ill deal with Grubbs.

RD3 Yamon Figurs WR, Kansas St.

This pick has grown on me more and more, I wanted Ted Ginn because I wanted elite speed and an explosive KR/PR guy, and thats what Figurs is.

RD3 Marshall Yanda OG, Iowa

Its an ok pick would have preferred an OT at this point.

RD4 Antwan Barnes OLB, FIU

I love this pick, provides LB depth and eventually could become a starter in this league.

RD4 Le'Ron McClain FB, Alabama

The next Ovie Mughelli, I really love this pick.

RD5 Troy Smith QB, THE Ohio State University

I was jumping for joy when this pick showed on the screen!!! To get Troy Smith with th last pick in the 5th rd is special, and I personally think he could end up being a great QB, and I can't wait for him to reach his potential.

RD6 Prescott Burgess OLB, Michigan

I LOVE THIS PICK!!!!! I look at everything that is said about him great athlete, versatile, hasn't lived up to potential and I see one thing.......Adalius Thomas all the same things were said about him when he came out, but he got around Ray and that all changed as it will with PB.



Overall Id say day 2 saved this draft, and Im much happier now then I was after the 86th pick on day 1.

ccB
04-30-2007, 09:02 AM
Now that the dust has settled Ill giv eyou my take on the draft.....

RD1 Ben Grubbs OG, Aubrun

Not the guy I wanted at 29 even after Staley was gone I would have preferred Blalock, however Ozzie and DeCosta are excited about it so Ill deal with Grubbs.

RD3 Yamon Figurs WR, Kansas St.

This pick has grown on me more and more, I wanted Ted Ginn because I wanted elite speed and an explosive KR/PR guy, and thats what Figurs is.

RD3 Marshall Yanda OG, Iowa

Its an ok pick would have preferred an OT at this point.

RD4 Antwan Barnes OLB, FIU

I love this pick, provides LB depth and eventually could become a starter in this league.

RD4 Le'Ron McClain FB, Alabama

The next Ovie Mughelli, I really love this pick.

RD5 Troy Smith QB, THE Ohio State University

I was jumping for joy when this pick showed on the screen!!! To get Troy Smith with th last pick in the 5th rd is special, and I personally think he could end up being a great QB, and I can't wait for him to reach his potential.

RD6 Prescott Burgess OLB, Michigan

I LOVE THIS PICK!!!!! I look at everything that is said about him great athlete, versatile, hasn't lived up to potential and I see one thing.......Adalius Thomas all the same things were said about him when he came out, but he got around Ray and that all changed as it will with PB.



Overall Id say day 2 saved this draft, and Im much happier now then I was after the 86th pick on day 1.

I agree with you. Day 2 made Day 1 better. We all know I was against going Guard but im glad it was Grubbs over Blalock or Kalil. Mel Kiper's analysis of Grubbs made me like him even more than I previously did. I suppose Ozzie and Decosta felt the same way about him that Mel felt. If Yanda can make the transition to RT (Which I dont think we would have drafted him if we didnt believe he could) This could prove to be a very solid draft class. We got alot of value picks and the only pick I really consider a "reach" is the Yamon Figurs pick but hes the player I am most excited about. Asside from where they played and a little bulk, there is not much that seperates Figurs from Ginn(I am in no way saying Figurs is as good as Ginn)

ChefMike
04-30-2007, 09:07 AM
Prescott Burgess was an awful pick.

I agree I think we could have gone in another direction like DL or DB help

ccB
04-30-2007, 09:12 AM
I agree I think we could have gone in another direction like DL or DB help

There wasnt much on the board at our pick. I see alot of people talking about Siler, thats who I wanted but hes not much better then Burgess. I think Siler is more a product of the system and the players he played around. I dont think neither player would/will make an impact for us.

EdReedUnstoppable
04-30-2007, 09:12 AM
Prescott Burgess was an awful pick.


I really disagree with that, I think Burgess is good value in the 6th. He just needs to be motivated and he is coming to Baltimore where he'll be around Ray Lewis and if he can't get motivated by Ray then its time for a career change.