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dcarey20
04-29-2007, 03:51 PM
Here are my thoughts on each pick, and the draft overall:

1st round, 29th overall: Ben Grubbs, Offensive Guards, Auburn

When I first saw this pick, I was really dissapointed that we passed on Arkansas corner Chris Houston. Looking back, I still would have gone with Houston, but I'm really happy with Grubbs. There's no doubt that he is the top guard in this draft, and was definitely worhty of the 29th pick. This should mark the end of the Keydrick Vincent era in Baltimore :) . With this pick, our interior line should be solidified for the next 5-10 years with Jason Brown at left guard, Chris Chester at center, and Grubbs at right guard.

Grade: B+

3rd round, 74th overall: Yamon Figurs, Wide Receiver/Return Specialist, Kansas State

I absolutely hated this pick when I saw it, partly because I was set that we were going to get a great value with a guy like Tanard Jackson, Ray McDonald, Trent Edwards, or Tank Tyler. I feel that all of those guys were all better prospects and better values. But as looked at the pick more, and heard all of the great things that director of scouting Eric DeCosta had to say about him, I've warmed up to it a bit. Figurs is arguably the fastest player in the draft after running a 4.30 at the combine. I really like what he brings to the table, and he will definitely bolster the return game. Also, from what I've heard from the Ravens personnel, he'll get some looks at receiver as well. Ozzie Newsome seems to be a huge believer in this guy, so I'll trust him. But still, I feel we took him about a round too early, so I can't be totally pleased with this.

Grade: C

3rd round, 86th overall: Marshal Yanda, Offensive Tackle, Iowa

I really like this pick. Yanda played tackle at Iowa, so he definitely will help us in that area. Adam Terry is a natural left tackle that is moving to the right side for us. Terry has struggled at that spot before, so Yanda could be a very nice insurance policy. And if Terry works out there like we hope, then Yanda could be the successor to Jon Ogden on the left side. He also has the ability to play guard, so he could contribute at that area if we have injury problems.

Grade: B

4th round, 134th overall Antwan Barnes, Linebacker, Florida International

Another very nice pick. Barnes has outstanding speed and explosiveness, as he ran a 4.4 at 240 pounds. He played a good amount of defensive end in college, but I feel he translates perfectly to a tweener position, which should fit very well in our 3-4 sets. He should be a great situational player, and at the very least will provide some nice depth.

Grade: B+

4th round, 137th overall: Le'Ron McClain, Fullback, Alabama

This was a pick that I had been talking about for a long time. I put him in alot of my mocks, and I feel he's a great fit with us. Ovie Mughelli left in free agency, so we obviously need someone to replace him. McClain is a bruiser who was definitely the top pure fullback in this draft. I think we took him in a great spot, as Carolina took a fullback right after us, and I don't think it's crazy to think that McClain was on their radar. He will challenge third year player Justin Green for the starting fullback spot, and I think he has a great chance at winning it.

Grade: B+

5th round, 174th overall: Troy Smith, Quarterback, Ohio State

This was, without a doubt, my favorite pick of the entire draft. No, I'm not the biggest Troy Smith fan in the world, and I'm not expecting him to be a superstar. But to be able a guy that is as accomplished as Troy is with the final pick of the 5th round is a great steal in my mind. I had him down as the #6 QB in this draft, and a late 3rd-early 4th round talent. I think the Ravens are a perfect situation for him. Steve McNair could be a great mentor, and Kyle Boller may be on his way out. He's in a situation where he could have a chance to start. Kudos to Ozzie Newsome for going out and getting him. It's a low risk, high reward pick, and one that we could look back on as a big steal.

Grade: A

6th round, 207th overall: Prescott Burgess, Linebacker, Michigan

This was a decent selection, but not outstanding. I like how Burgess fits with our defensive scheme, but I felt there were a few better values on the board, namely Brandon Siler out of Florida. I would have loved to have him at this point. But I can't complain too much, as Prescott was very productive against top competition. Again, solid but unspectacular.

Grade: C+

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Overall Grade: B+

I really like how this draft turned out. I felt we did a nice job of combining need picks with value picks, and I'm excited to see these guys play.

Raven Domination
04-29-2007, 04:34 PM
I agree with you on Yamon Figurs...that was a risky pick for a guy that won't be a WR next year (even though he has those credentials), but a returner. But I think Le'Ron McClain is definently an A!! This is a guy that is a 2nd rounder talent wise but didn't go there because FB isn't a coveted position. Most charts I've seen have him as the best FB in the draft!! Our running game SHOULD be beasty next season!!!

go_ravens94
04-29-2007, 04:39 PM
1st round, 29th overall: Ben Grubbs, Offensive Guard, Auburn
Analysis: When I saw that we had picked Grubbs, I was upset, but when I saw the highlight reel of him completely knocking over a D-Lineman, I knew he was going to be the next Ravens Pro Bowler.
Grade: B+

3rd round, 74th overall: Yamon Figurs, Wide Receiver/Return Specialist, Kansas State
Analysis: Terrible pick. We could have had him much later. I would have liked the pick in the 4th round, but not here. However, he reminds me of Sams in the return game.
Grade: C-

3rd round, 86th overall: Marshal Yanda, Offensive Tackle, Iowa
Analysis: Out RT of the future is right here. Smart trade-up to get him, as it works out well on the Value Chart. However, it gave us the weirdest-sounding picks: Grubbs, Yamon Figurs, Yanda.
Grade: B

MY SECOND-DAY GRADES COMING SOON.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 05:03 PM
I disagree that we could have had Figurs a round later. There were a bunch of receivers going at that point in the draft. For example, Laurent Robinson went the pick after Figurs. He could have easily been off the board in the next 10 picks if we had passed.

That doesn't mean he was great value, but I'm just throwing it out there.

ccB
04-29-2007, 05:50 PM
Yeah you have no idea where Figurs was on guys boards. Im sure Ozzie wouldnt have taken him if he felt he could have got him a round later. I am positive they have information on this guy and who wanted him that we do not have.

America
04-29-2007, 05:51 PM
1st round, 29th overall: Ben Grubbs, Offensive Guards, Auburn

When I heard the pick, I was upset and dissapointed. Grubbs is good and all, but I was really hoping for Kalil or a trade down. Chris Houston would have been good I guess, although I'm not sure which one I would have liked better. I've never been a Grubbs fan I'll warm up to it in time.

Grade: B

3rd round, 74th overall: Yamon Figurs, Wide Receiver/Return Specialist, Kansas State

I was really upset with this pick. There were so many better players on the board that would have fit a need, especially my two personal favorites in Tank Tyler and Charles Johnson. Figurs is a poor mans Teddy Ginn, and will be a return man and a 4th WR at best, which is not worth a third rounder. Hopefully, when DMase is gone, he will emerge as a big play 3rd wideout. But I'm still not happy about this one.


Grade: C-

3rd round, 86th overall: Marshal Yanda, Offensive Tackle, Iowa

This along with Figurs made me extremely unhappy with the end of our first day. I don't see him at tackle, he's not athletic enough for LT and not strong and powerful at the point of attack for RT. Bradley, McDonald, Henderson and Waters were still on board.


Grade: C+

I would have taken a different approach to Day 1. I probably would have looked to Kalil in round 1 or traded down. I definately believe in finding late round guards from large or small programs who can start their rookie year. I would not have looked wideout on day 1, and I would have addressed adding youth to our D. My frustration could be because we took two players I wasn't that fond of and then another who I thought was very 1 dimensional and a reach. At least the staff loves the players.

4th round, 134th overall Antwan Barnes, Linebacker, Florida International

I was extremely happy with our fourth round starting with Barnes, a beastly collegiate DE. He's got AD type athleticism and is a perfect fit. The majority of his flaws are hidden in our scheme, as he'll be a hybrid player. Makes plays all over the field. I have a feeling he'll be special.

Grade: A

4th round, 137th overall: Le'Ron McClain, Fullback, Alabama

Almost everyone on the board loves McClain. He's a great replacement for Mughelli. Fierce blocker and can catch out of the backfield. He's tough, durable, versitile, and experienced. I love this pick.

Grade: A-

5th round, 174th overall: Troy Smith, Quarterback, Ohio State

Say what you want about Troy Smith, but this is a great place for him to go. Our team offers him a great chance to learn and Steve McNair is especially happy about this one. The Natl Championship game was a fluke. He has played well in big games before at ND and Michigan. He doesn't have the height but he managed to throw over his mammoth oline at OSU, and I think he can do it in the pros.

Grade: A

6th round, 207th overall: Prescott Burgess, Linebacker, Michigan

I was pissed off when I saw this pick. I was pulling for Brandon Siler. First off I hate Michigan, so this pick is probably around a C. But he doesn't play like his size would indicate. He plays like a 210 pounder. At least he's a hard worker.

Grade: D+

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Overall Grade: B-

We traded too many Day 2 picks for my liking and our Day 1 was very dissapointing. My favorite pick by far was Antwan Barnes, followed by McClain and kind of Smith, mostly because I just don't like taking QBs - but he's an exception. We didn't address the Dline or pick up a backup safety. I hated the draft actually but I trust our guys.

BigDawg819
04-29-2007, 07:10 PM
The biggest complaint I have with our draft is the lack of drafting a safety, I thought a John Wendling out of Wyoming could be a hell of a pick in the later rounds.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 07:11 PM
yea I would have loved Siler to replace Ray in like 3 years, he seem like he can play 3-4 ILB also.

Troj2man
04-29-2007, 08:28 PM
Prescott Burgess was strictly a special teams pick. He's played great special teams while at Michigan. As for Yamon Figurs, I didn't like this pick at first. After thinking about it, I think it was the pick that had to be made. With the recent troubles of BJ Sam, we had to get a return guy. A player last year had similar trouble like Sams. He had gotten 2 DUI's and was suspended for the first 4 games. Figurs will be able to hold down the return duties, and may even take them away from BJ Sams.

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 09:05 PM
The biggest complaint I have with our draft is the lack of drafting a safety, I thought a John Wendling out of Wyoming could be a hell of a pick in the later rounds.

Isnt Wendling the guy that jumped over something that was 5'6?

Ravens1991
04-29-2007, 09:07 PM
Prescott Burgess was strictly a special teams pick. He's played great special teams while at Michigan. As for Yamon Figurs, I didn't like this pick at first. After thinking about it, I think it was the pick that had to be made. With the recent troubles of BJ Sam, we had to get a return guy. A player last year had similar trouble like Sams. He had gotten 2 DUI's and was suspended for the first 4 games. Figurs will be able to hold down the return duties, and may even take them away from BJ Sams.

yea but we could get a special teams guy as a UDFA, Brandon Siler on the other hand I think he can develop into a starting 3-4 ILB.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 10:33 PM
I like Wendling just fine but to have him means we would have had to take him over Troy Smith, which I wouldn't have wanted.

BigDawg819
04-29-2007, 10:35 PM
I like Wendling just fine but to have him means we would have had to take him over Troy Smith, which I wouldn't have wanted.

Safety is a bit more pressing of a concern then a 3rd string QB.....

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 10:36 PM
Safety is a bit more pressing of a concern then a 3rd string QB.....

Not a 3rd string quarterback who could be a future starter down the road once Boller is gone. Wendling would have no hope of being a starter, just a solid backup.

BigDawg819
04-29-2007, 10:38 PM
Not a 3rd string quarterback who could be a future starter down the road once Boller is gone. Wendling would have no hope of being a starter, just a solid backup.

He's future by default right now but who knows what happens come down the line. Wendling wouldn't have to start but more of a special teams concern and the fact that there is no depth behind Reed and Landry and thats a problem.

dcarey20
04-29-2007, 10:40 PM
He's future by default right now but who knows what happens come down the line. Wendling wouldn't have to start but more of a special teams concern and the fact that there is no depth behind Reed and Landry and thats a problem.

Gerome Sapp is a very serviceable backup and special teamer, and I believe he was just resigned. Depth at quarterback and a possible man of the future was a bigger need, as Boller is in the last year of his deal and I can't see him being back.

BigDawg819
04-29-2007, 10:42 PM
Gerome Sapp is a very serviceable backup and special teamer, and I believe he was just resigned. Depth at quarterback and a possible man of the future was a bigger need, as Boller is in the last year of his deal and I can't see him being back.

I don't recall hearing that Sapp is back in the fold but still Wendling could have been taken. Either him or Smith would have been good value at that pick.

America
04-29-2007, 11:40 PM
Sapp was in for an interview with Mike Duffy. I'm 99.9% sure he's back.

go_ravens94
04-30-2007, 08:46 AM
Prescott Burgess was strictly a special teams pick. He's played great special teams while at Michigan. As for Yamon Figurs, I didn't like this pick at first. After thinking about it, I think it was the pick that had to be made. With the recent troubles of BJ Sam, we had to get a return guy. A player last year had similar trouble like Sams. He had gotten 2 DUI's and was suspended for the first 4 games. Figurs will be able to hold down the return duties, and may even take them away from BJ Sams.

That sounds pretty realistic.

ccB
04-30-2007, 09:10 AM
Safety is a bit more pressing of a concern then a 3rd string QB.....

I have a feeling Boller is as good as gone in Baltimore. Hes gonna be an unrestricted free agent next year and we dont seem to pressed to lock him up.

ccB
04-30-2007, 09:22 AM
When people grade our draft they need to include Willis McGahee in the mix. He was technically part of our draft class. I think our draft looks pretty bland but once you add McGahee in the mix we have a top 10 draft IMO. We will get 3 maybe 4 starters (McGahee, Grubbs, McClain, Figurs) and we have the future replacement of AD in Barnes. Hopefully our Future RT in Yanda and quite possibly our future QB in Troy Smith. Throw in a solid special teamer with some potential in Burgess.

I just cant see how anyone thinks our draft was not a good one. I think it was very productive and we did alot to help our team right now (specifically the running game) and made some interesting picks for the future. Including the McGahee trade I will give us a B+ pushing towards an A-. The only thing that stops me from giving us an A is the "reaches" for Figurs and Yanda.

Ravens1991
04-30-2007, 09:32 AM
Dont forget McNair with our 4th.

EdReedUnstoppable
04-30-2007, 12:58 PM
I think the worst player we picked up in the 07 draft is Willis McGahee, other than that I like the draft, If Willis was Thomas Jones this draft would have been one of the best.

dcarey20
04-30-2007, 02:21 PM
I think the worst player we picked up in the 07 draft is Willis McGahee, other than that I like the draft, If Willis was Thomas Jones this draft would have been one of the best.

I can't wait until Willis runs for 1400 yards

SeanTaylorRIP
04-30-2007, 02:24 PM
Willis can't be any worse than Jamal was.

Ravens1991
04-30-2007, 02:40 PM
I like the Willis pick, I think he brings in a more explosive running game.

importrx7
05-02-2007, 02:28 AM
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niel89
05-02-2007, 04:17 AM
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ChefMike
05-02-2007, 12:53 PM
Safety is a bit more pressing of a concern then a 3rd string QB.....

What is your reasoning behind Safety being a pressing concern ? We have argueably the Best Safety in the Game (Reed) and Landry and Gerome Sapp and Winborne, played some safety in college to serve as back ups. I would have rather seen you say bring in a back up at CB then safety but hey its your opinion...

BigDawg819
05-02-2007, 01:29 PM
What is your reasoning behind Safety being a pressing concern ? We have argueably the Best Safety in the Game (Reed) and Landry and Gerome Sapp and Winborne, played some safety in college to serve as back ups. I would have rather seen you say bring in a back up at CB then safety but hey its your opinion...

We have 8 corners on the roster so that would be ridiculous not to mention I still haven't seen any linkage to verify Sapp is back with the team. Not to mention that Sapp was a significant downgrade to our secondary and was responsible for some big plays last year that many erroneously charged to Rolle. As for Winborne, I still don't see why he's on the roster as a corner so I don't even want to consider him at safety.

SeanTaylorRIP
05-02-2007, 02:49 PM
A solid backup at safety would have been appreciated, because if Reed goes down or Landry goes down or is struggling, any other safety on our roster immediately makes it 5x weaker.

go_ravens94
05-02-2007, 06:47 PM
We need a safety, but we'll sign a UDFA.