A. Brown to be shopped

[SFbear]

Bears | A. Brown to be shopped
Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:20:04 -0700

Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports the Chicago Bears will likely look to trade DE Alex Brown, after drafting DE Dan Bazuin in their second-round pick.

[bearsfan_51]

Yeah but read the article, there's really no substance to it. He's purely spectulating. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, I believe Angelo even said something to the degree of "we'll keep all of our options open", but I don't think it's a likelyhood to happen.

[SFbear]

I just really hope we don't turn into the 2006 Colts run defense.

[bearsfan_51]

I just really hope we don't turn into the 2006 Colts run defense.
It was clear that our defense wasn't fast enough. Look at the Superbowl, we were so goddamn scared to get beat by anyone that we had to play 25 yards off the ball. We got NO pass rush, and just look fatigued at the end.

It's obvious that the picks on defense were in direct correlation to the dip we took on defense at the end of the year. If we lose some size to gain some speed, so be it.

[Smokey Joe]

For what though? Future draft picks?

[DaBears9654]

After work (at the Staples in Rock Springs, Wyo.) I told our Sales Manager that maybe the Bears' line of thought behind drafting Dan Bazuin was that the DE depth chart could look something like the following:

LE: Ogunleye, Bazuin
RE: Brown, Anderson

Just a thought. If he does get traded, though, I would ask for a bare minimum of 2 2nd rounders

[bearsfan_51]

That's insane. I'm not sure Brown is worth even one 2nd rounder.

[jbombul]

is brown a good fit in the cover 2? i know thats what you guys run so i was wondering if hes a good fit, or is he just lazy and doesn't play hard every play like what the lions have in kalimba edwards

[VoteLynnSwan]

I would be shocked if we could get more than a 4th rounder for Briggs honestly... if we trade him now maybe we could get a 3rd.

[bearsfan_51]

is brown a good fit in the cover 2? i know thats what you guys run so i was wondering if hes a good fit, or is he just lazy and doesn't play hard every play like what the lions have in kalimba edwards

I have a VERY hard time thinking we'd trade him to the Lions.

But yeah he is, although his sack production could be better, Kalimba isn't really a good comparison.

[Bearsfan123]

We'll probably trade him for a DT since we didnt get one in the draft.

In a perfect Bears world: Trade him and San Diego's next years third for Alan Branch or some other really talented DT.

[Bearsfan123]

I have a VERY hard time thinking we'd trade him to the Lions.

But yeah he is, although his sack production could be better, Kalimba isn't really a good comparison.

I wouldnt say hes lazy, I think he consistently works hard and gives really good effort. I dunno where i could find this stat but I always see him just barely being pushed behind the qb making him step up in the pocket (qb pressures?)

[VoteLynnSwan]

We'll probably trade him for a DT since we didnt get one in the draft.

In a perfect Bears world: Trade him and San Diego's next years third for Alan Branch or some other really talented DT.

we definitely wouldn't trade him for a rookie...

[Hurricane Ditka]

Scott hasn't signed yet has he? I remember them saying depending on the draft they might give him a more serious offer. Since we didn't take a DB I wouldn't be surprised to see us try and sign him again.

[bearsfan_51]

Yeah I think there's an increasing likelyhood that Scott is resigned. The Chiefs and Broncos both loaded up on defensive linemen so it's really down to us, Atlanta, or Minnesota from as far as I can tell.

[awfullyquiet]

After work (at the Staples in Rock Springs, Wyo.) I told our Sales Manager that maybe the Bears' line of thought behind drafting Dan Bazuin was that the DE depth chart could look something like the following:

LE: Ogunleye, Bazuin
RE: Brown, Anderson

Just a thought. If he does get traded, though, I would ask for a bare minimum of 2 2nd rounders

i bet we could trade idonije for more.

which would be the better idea IMO. he's good enough to actually start for alot of teams who have weakness in their DE...

[Bucs4242]

If I were the Bucs I would trade Simeon "all talk no walk" Rice for him straight up. Rice is done, but Im sure most teams dont know it yet

[sweetness34]

If I were the Bucs I would trade Simeon "all talk no walk" Rice for him straight up. Rice is done, but Im sure most teams dont know it yet

I'm sure Angelo knows it. Too bad we'd never be stupid enough to take that trade, good try though. Here, substitute Adams for Rice and we've got a deal.

[evershot]

I would be shocked if we could get more than a 4th rounder for Briggs honestly... if we trade him now maybe we could get a 3rd.

The Bears can get more than a fourth for Briggs if they just let him go because I'm sure he'll perform well enough that they could easily get a high compensatory pick the year after they lose him.

The price for Briggs will still be very high and even more now since teams that didn't completely fill their needs in the draft will be willing to give up more as the season draws closer and they realize they need help or that they didn't really improve their situation.

[sweetness34]

Briggs ain't goin' nowhere anytime soon. I think this will be his last year with Chicago but he'll be a Bear at least for this year.

I know it'd be a really dick move on JA's part but I wouldn't be surprised to see him franchise Briggs again next year. Angelo is a hard ass when it comes to this and he's going to make sure Rosenhoe and Briggs know that he has control over this situation, not them.

[VoteLynnSwan]

The Bears can get more than a fourth for Briggs if they just let him go because I'm sure he'll perform well enough that they could easily get a high compensatory pick the year after they lose him.

The price for Briggs will still be very high and even more now since teams that didn't completely fill their needs in the draft will be willing to give up more as the season draws closer and they realize they need help or that they didn't really improve their situation.

haha, whoops... i was talking about Alex Brown.

[Smokey Joe]

Briggs ain't goin' nowhere anytime soon. I think this will be his last year with Chicago but he'll be a Bear at least for this year.

I know it'd be a really dick move on JA's part but I wouldn't be surprised to see him franchise Briggs again next year. Angelo is a hard ass when it comes to this and he's going to make sure Rosenhoe and Briggs know that he has control over this situation, not them.
The only way Briggs plays this year is if JA and Lovie promise not to franchise him again next year.

[sweetness34]

The only way Briggs plays this year is if JA and Lovie promise not to franchise him again next year.

And the only way they don't franchise him next year is if Lance promises to be there by the first regular season game, ready to play IMO.

JA isn't going to pull any punches with this. They wanted to play hardball and Angelo isn't budging. This whole thing could've been handled a lot differently if Lance and Rosenhaus hadn't made a mockery out of the system and the organization. If they keep their mouths shut and approach JA face to face and ask for a trade, Lance probably gets dealt.

[bearsfan_51]

If I were the Bucs I would trade Simeon "all talk no walk" Rice for him straight up. Rice is done, but Im sure most teams dont know it yet
Dude Keyshawn Johnson knows Rice sucks. Everyone knows Rice sucks. What people don't know yet is that Derrick Brooks is washed up too.

[jbombul]

I have a VERY hard time thinking we'd trade him to the Lions.

But yeah he is, although his sack production could be better, Kalimba isn't really a good comparison.

yea i know he wouldn't get traded to a division rival, i just wanted to see how he fit in the cover 2, thanks for the help

[Bears_Fan]

Scott signed with the Eagles. http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PHI/10164583

I think we have to consider moving ABrown inside, if Bazuin looks good.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Redskins seem like a possible destination. Possibly for LeMar Marshall and a little more as the Bears are likely looking for solid insurance for Briggs and Marshall is now expendable with the Skins drafting of Dallas Sartz and HB Blades.

[dabears10]

Redskins seem like a possible destination. Possibly for LeMar Marshall and a little more as the Bears are likely looking for solid insurance for Briggs and Marshall is now expendable with the Skins drafting of Dallas Sartz and HB Blades.

Why would we want Marshall?

[VoteLynnSwan]

Redskins seem like a possible destination. Possibly for LeMar Marshall and a little more as the Bears are likely looking for solid insurance for Briggs and Marshall is now expendable with the Skins drafting of Dallas Sartz and HB Blades.

seriously, stop trying to push LeMarr Marshall on us, every single trade you've mentioned has included his name, and not once have you supplied a link.

[evershot]

Redskins seem like a possible destination. Possibly for LeMar Marshall and a little more as the Bears are likely looking for solid insurance for Briggs and Marshall is now expendable with the Skins drafting of Dallas Sartz and HB Blades.

I think he's just Trolling because he's unhappy with his team's draft or lack there of.

[sweetness34]

Redskins seem like a possible destination. Possibly for LeMar Marshall and a little more as the Bears are likely looking for solid insurance for Briggs and Marshall is now expendable with the Skins drafting of Dallas Sartz and HB Blades.

Seriously, stop this **** man. You're a freakin' mod and you're putting this garbage in our forum. Either find proof or stop speculating and trying to start up rumors that aren't true. This is just getting ridiculous.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Hey I have never made up nothin, my roomate works for the Washington Times and I get these unsubstantiated stories frequently, don't think it's a fluke that I knew the Briggs trade was done gonna be made, and what the actual deal was before anyone else knew it. So I'm just letting you know what I am hearing, cause my roomate gets live feeds every day of possible developing stories and I'm just lettin you know.

As for this thing if you actually read my post I never said that this was something I heard about if you think with common sense the Skins are shopping for a veteran DE and all I said is Washington could be a possible destination and that LeMar Marshall could be a piece of it, so what the hell is wrong with that? I haven't heard of anything developing I was just throwing it out.

[sweetness34]

Hey I have never made up nothin, my roomate works for the Washington Times and I get these unsubstantiated stories frequently, don't think it's a fluke that I knew the Briggs trade was done gonna be made, and what the actual deal was before anyone else knew it. So I'm just letting you know what I am hearing, cause my roomate gets live feeds every day of possible developing stories and I'm just lettin you know.

As for this thing if you actually read my post I never said that this was something I heard about if you think with common sense the Skins are shopping for a veteran DE and all I said is Washington could be a possible destination and that LeMar Marshall could be a piece of it, so what the hell is wrong with that? I haven't heard of anything developing I was just throwing it out.

Developing stories from who? The Redskins. You should know that there is no way this deal happens. A 3rd Rounder and Marshall for Briggs?

And when was this Briggs trade done gonna be made? Again, this is all from the Redskins, not from the Bears. Because as far as I can see, Lance is still a Bear and he's not going to Washington unless they up the anty from their first offer. Sliding back two rounds isn't not going to get this deal done, if anything it'll piss of Angelo even more.

[bearsfan_51]

Basically because it's ridiculous. It's a waste of space, and it's an insult to our franchise.

You also said that there was no way that the Redskins were offering the 1st round pick for Briggs and a 1st. Verbatim. And you were dead ass wrong. So thanks for the "scoop", but no thanks.

[SFbear]

Just saw on NFL network that Brown is requesting permission for a trade. You guys think everybody is trying to jump ship or just trying to make the big payday.

[bearsfan_51]

Just saw on NFL network that Brown is requesting permission for a trade. You guys think everybody is trying to jump ship or just trying to make the big payday.

I think Brown is a special exception. The writing is on the wall really. I just hope we can get good value for him. He's geting a fair contract and he's not an elite player so if we can't get what is fair we should keep him, happy or not.

I don't think there's a problem with him shopping himself though.

[bearsfan_51]

Here's an article which sheds a little light on the situation:

CHICAGO -- The Chicago Bears expect to see starting defensive end Alex Brown at their minicamp this weekend even though Brown says he's seeking a trade.

Brown told Sirius NFL Radio on Wednesday that he asked the Bears for permission to work out a trade. But coach Lovie Smith plans to have Brown at the three-day minicamp beginning Friday.


"I just know we have a minicamp coming up this weekend and Alex has been working awful hard with our program," Smith said. "We'll see him there this weekend working out with us. So that's about all I can tell you right now."

Brown admitted he's comfortable with the Bears, but is eager to explore other opportunities. Still, he has three years remaining on his contract.

"We're just trying to see what's out there," Brown said. "That's what we're trying to do. It's not the Bears. They don't want to get rid of me. It's just that I want to see what else is out there.

"If it was up to me I'd get a new contract here and play the rest of my career here. I totally understand some of the things the Bears are saying. We're handling this in a real low-key fashion and that's the way we want to keep it."

Brown had seven sacks last season in a very effective line rotation that helped Chicago reach the Super Bowl, where it lost to Indianapolis.

A fourth-round pick out of Florida in 2002, Brown signed a contract extension in 2004. He said when he broached the subject of a trade, the Bears told him, "No way. We love you. We don't want to get rid of you."

Added Brown: "It took a while to even get them to talk about it."

[SFbear]

Here's an article which sheds a little light on the situation:

Yeah I think he realizes he won't get resigned to a new contract with the Bears with all the young DEs weve drafted and when he hits FA in three years his skills will be too diminished to get a big deal. I don't mind him seeking trades and I definitely appreciate the way he's been going about this more than Briggs.

[sweetness34]

Yeah I think he realizes he won't get resigned to a new contract with the Bears with all the young DEs weve drafted and when he hits FA in three years his skills will be too diminished to get a big deal. I don't mind him seeking trades and I definitely appreciate the way he's been going about this more than Briggs.

And Angelo is going to reward Brown for doing that I'll bet. Jerry while a hardass is still genuine guy who wants what's best for his players. And he'll do his best to accomadate for AB and work something out.

IMO, if Briggs doesn't do what he does, he's in a different uniform right now. Way to go Rosendouche, great job on this one.

[SFbear]

And Angelo is going to reward Brown for doing that I'll bet. Jerry while a hardass is still genuine guy who wants what's best for his players. And he'll do his best to accomadate for AB and work something out.

IMO, if Briggs doesn't do what he does, he's in a different uniform right now. Way to go Rosendouche, great job on this one.

Although denying Briggs his trade and accomadating Brown and TJ would send a message to other players of how to handle these situations, I honestly think Angelo is only thinking about whether the player is replaceable or not with our current roster. I think if Briggs had a Mark Anderson or Cedric Benson breathing down his neck, he would have been long gone.

[bearsfan_51]

Although denying Briggs his trade and accomadating Brown and TJ would send a message to other players of how to handle these situations, I honestly think Angelo is only thinking about whether the player is replaceable or not with our current roster. I think if Briggs had a Mark Anderson or Cedric Benson breathing down his neck, he would have been long gone.

I completely agree. All this being said I still don't think we'll trade Brown. There's really no reason to and if he wants a new contract I don't think there will be many teams offering us things of equal worth.

[SFbear]

I completely agree. All this being said I still don't think we'll trade Brown. There's really no reason to and if he wants a new contract I don't think there will be many teams offering us things of equal worth.

There's always the Redskins...

[Smokey Joe]

I think we could possibly get a 3rd rounder, depending on which teams are interested.

He is going by it good, but I just hate it when players request for a trade or whatever. You signed the contract, and you have been treated very fair.

[SFbear]

Anderson took starting snaps at LE today. Brown rotated in at both RE and LE.

[BUSTKUNTLAWL]

There's always the Redskins...

Fk the Redskins.. Why help them out?

They have no DL. Fk em.

I can't wait to see them get destroyed next year.

[sweetness34]

Fk the Redskins.. Why help them out?

They have no DL. Fk em.

I can't wait to see them get destroyed next year.

But they got the most talented safety duo in the league BUST. And that has every Skins' fan jumping for joy on this board. Ehem:

"OMG OMG OMG LOLZ ZOMG we have Landry and Taylor....how sick is that? OMG OMG OMG."

What they fail to realize is that becuase that have ZERO defensive line, they won't get any pressure on the QB and their secondary will be picked apart. They screwed the pooch by passing up Andersona and Okoye.

[Splat]

I don't know if this is BS but I heard a rumor the Chiefs have had talks with the Bears ever since the draft about Brown they are really down on Jared Allen for his off the field stuff and could let him walk after this year. I would like to pick up Brown my self but I really don't think any thing will go down at least not with the Chiefs.

[bearsfan_51]

I don't know if this is BS but I heard a rumor the Chiefs have had talks with the Bears ever since the draft about Brown they are really down on Jared Allen for his off the field stuff and could let him walk after this year. I would like to pick up Brown my self but I really don't think any thing will go down at least not with the Chiefs.
It would make sense. I'd rather have a player than a draft pick for him though, and I can't really think of any Chiefs players that would fit the bill.

[Splat]

It would make sense. I'd rather have a player than a draft pick for him though, and I can't really think of any Chiefs players that would fit the bill.

I would have said Greg Wesley and a draft pick before the Adam Archuleta trade but now I don't see us having any player the Bears would want that we would be willing to trade.