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Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 06:38 PM
I just saw that in a players poll in SI magizine, that Brian Urlacher was voted overrated by 8% of the league. That was tied for the second largest % with Ray Lewis. Only T.O. had a higher percentage, and that was 10%.

I would assume that most of the Bears players voted for him, like a joke. But the rest of the league? Out of jealousy I guess.

What do you guys think? I think it is assinine, and that Brain Urlacher is argueably the best defensive player in the NFL.

BUSTKUNTLAWL
10-28-2006, 06:41 PM
I HIGHLY doubt any of the Bear players voted for him.

Considering he was voted most over rated 2 years ago(If I recall right). And it was a big slap in the face to him and the media made a big deal out of it.

Tons of the teammates defended him too.. There's no way his teammates voted for him.

dcarey20
10-28-2006, 06:44 PM
i could see how some may think he is overrated. i think he's a bit overhyped, but not much. he's a great player.

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 06:46 PM
I HIGHLY doubt any of the Bear players voted for him.

Considering he was voted most over rated 2 years ago(If I recall right). And it was a big slap in the face to him and the media made a big deal out of it.

Tons of the teammates defended him too.. There's no way his teammates voted for him.
Well, I think they did, as a joke. Like with the White Sox. There was a players poll about baseball's most overrated player or something, and A.J. Pierzynski was voted as it by the whole sox team, as a joke. That didn't really mean it.

bearfan
10-28-2006, 06:46 PM
Hell no.

He has made the probowl almost every season of his career for a reason, and definantly was voted DPOY last year for a reason. He is big, fast and is the best at what he does. When he needs to, he can take over a game (Cardnals). Not many players can do that, so no, he isnt overrated at all.

BUSTKUNTLAWL
10-28-2006, 06:47 PM
I HIGHLY doubt any of the Bear players voted for him.

Considering he was voted most over rated 2 years ago(If I recall right). And it was a big slap in the face to him and the media made a big deal out of it.

Tons of the teammates defended him too.. There's no way his teammates voted for him.
Well, I think they did, as a joke. Like with the White Sox. There was a players poll about baseball's most overrated player or something, and A.J. Pierzynski was voted as it by the whole sox team, as a joke. That didn't really mean it.

Yah I understand your point.

But this was a big deal 2 years ago or so if you remember.

It was really blown out of porportion and Lovie & the players really defended him.

It's possible.

But I doubt it honestly.

jkpigskin
10-28-2006, 06:48 PM
i dont think hes overrated.... he is real good and sometimes doesnt get enough respect

Zim3031
10-28-2006, 06:49 PM
I used to think he was overrated, but then I saw the Cardinals game and I did a complete 180. He took over the game, you couldn't run at him and your receivers were too afraid to cross near him.

I think the guy next him, Briggs, is overrated though.

Staubach12
10-28-2006, 06:52 PM
Hell no.

He has made the probowl almost every season of his career for a reason, and definantly was voted DPOY last year for a reason. He is big, fast and is the best at what he does. When he needs to, he can take over a game (Cardnals). Not many players can do that, so no, he isnt overrated at all.

He speaks the truth.

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 06:58 PM
I used to think he was overrated, but then I saw the Cardinals game and I did a complete 180. He took over the game, you couldn't run at him and your receivers were too afraid to cross near him.

I think the guy next him, Briggs, is overrated though.
I can agree with that. Briggs is good, but he is pro bowl caliber because of Urlacher. Take away Lach, and Briggs' faults would start to show, IMO. But, I still think Briggs is a good LB.

10-28-2006, 06:59 PM
urlacher nor lewis are overated.

bearsfan_51
10-28-2006, 07:01 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

ShutDwn
10-28-2006, 07:16 PM
I used to think he was overrated, but then I saw the Cardinals game and I did a complete 180. He took over the game, you couldn't run at him and your receivers were too afraid to cross near him.

I think the guy next him, Briggs, is overrated though.

His only job was too stop James, he was being run blitzed the whole time and he had no other resposibilites. The Bears knew what the Cards were doing, it wouldn't have made a difference if it was someone else in Urlacher's place.

The problem with your statement is that Boldin caught a TD right in front of him and ran it in.


He is over rated in that he isn't far and away the best LB in the game.

bearsfan_51
10-28-2006, 07:22 PM
I used to think he was overrated, but then I saw the Cardinals game and I did a complete 180. He took over the game, you couldn't run at him and your receivers were too afraid to cross near him.

I think the guy next him, Briggs, is overrated though.
The problem with your statement is that Boldin caught a TD right in front of him and ran it in.

That was Briggs.

And Urlacher is much better than the 2nd best MLB in the league.

draftguru151
10-28-2006, 07:25 PM
If you have him as the best defensive player in the league he is overrated. If you have him worlds better than the next MLB then he is overrated. If you have him as the top MLB by a decent amount then he is right where he belongs.

bigbluedefense
10-28-2006, 07:35 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.

Geo
10-28-2006, 07:40 PM
Most underrated player in the game:

Buffalo Bills' MLB London Fletcher-Baker
http://assets.buffalobills.com/uploads/photo/5CDC700FFC9E402CBA355B806ACF0DB1.jpg

Discuss.

bigbluedefense
10-28-2006, 07:42 PM
Most underrated player in the game:

Buffalo Bills' MLB London Fletcher-Baker
http://assets.buffalobills.com/uploads/photo/5CDC700FFC9E402CBA355B806ACF0DB1.jpg

Discuss.

Nope...its Mike Vrabel. Seriously. How many times to hear his name mentioned amongst the top 3-4 OLBs in the game? Barely. Yet he's in the top 5 easily, probably top 3. Yet no love. Its Vrabel.

And Jason Taylor is the most underappreciated DE in the game.

And Kerry Rhodes is the most underappreciated Safety.

And Ty Warren is the most underappreciated DT (I know, he's technically a DE, but you get what I'm saying).

GSOT
10-28-2006, 07:46 PM
Most underrated player in the game:

Buffalo Bills' MLB London Fletcher-Baker
http://assets.buffalobills.com/uploads/photo/5CDC700FFC9E402CBA355B806ACF0DB1.jpg

Discuss.
I agree, great player.

Ravens1991
10-28-2006, 08:21 PM
I would think that Lights out would be around there, people started pegging him as the next all time great LB, the next LT, and so on, then he doesnt get a sack against the Titans and I dont think he got a sack against the Ravens and our line is nothing special, but dont get me wrong, Shawne is still a very good player. But W/ Lewis I don't see how he would be the second most overrated player, I think everybody has accepted that he is now only top 5-10 MLB isntead of the beast he once was. Smokey Joe did they give reasons why they are overrated?

10-28-2006, 08:33 PM
IMO, Urlacher and Peppers have a distinct line drawn behind them as the two best defensive players in the game.

I think some people get "great tackle machines" mixed up with "great linebackers". Urlacher can make game changing plays and can single handely take games over. That is what GREAT players do, in other words...stats can be misleading. Yes, Fletcher, Vilma, and Thomas are all good players and vitalely important to their teams, but their stats are padded by not having talent around them. To stand out on defense like the Bears is impressive to say the least. Also, to say there is a better linebacker in the game today would be purley to play the "devil's advocate". Another good couple of seasons and will should easily be considered a top 10 LB of all time, thus an eventual HOFer.

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 08:41 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 08:42 PM
IMO, Urlacher and Peppers have a distinct line drawn behind them as the two best defensive players in the game.

I think some people get "great tackle machines" mixed up with "great linebackers". Urlacher can make game changing plays and can single handely take games over. That is what GREAT players do, in other words...stats can be misleading. Yes, Fletcher, Vilma, and Thomas are all good players and vitalely important to their teams, but their stats are padded by not having talent around them. To stand out on defense like the Bears is impressive to say the least. Also, to say there is a better linebacker in the game today would be purley to play the "devil's advocate". Another good couple of seasons and will should easily be considered a top 10 LB of all time, thus an eventual HOFer.
I'd put Champ Bailey in that category also. He is the best corner in all of football.

Zim3031
10-28-2006, 08:43 PM
Vilma has not been anything close top a playmaker these last two years. I don't see how on Earth anyone can say that he is a top 10 linebacker or be better than Urlacher. He just makes all of his tackles 6-7 yards downfield.

10-28-2006, 08:46 PM
IMO, Urlacher and Peppers have a distinct line drawn behind them as the two best defensive players in the game.

I think some people get "great tackle machines" mixed up with "great linebackers". Urlacher can make game changing plays and can single handely take games over. That is what GREAT players do, in other words...stats can be misleading. Yes, Fletcher, Vilma, and Thomas are all good players and vitalely important to their teams, but their stats are padded by not having talent around them. To stand out on defense like the Bears is impressive to say the least. Also, to say there is a better linebacker in the game today would be purley to play the "devil's advocate". Another good couple of seasons and will should easily be considered a top 10 LB of all time, thus an eventual HOFer.
I'd put Champ Bailey in that category also. He is the best corner in all of football.

Ok...i guess Champ can come to.... :lol:

Denver Bronco99
10-28-2006, 08:46 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.


no doubt i think the top three are wilson,urlacher,lewis in no order..and urlacher is probably on the top of the list...but i can name a hand full mabey 2 of LBs faster then urlacher 2 being on the broncos...in williams and gold and possibly wilson as all of them run in the 4.45 range

10-28-2006, 08:46 PM
How did Vick not win?

Basileus777
10-28-2006, 08:47 PM
How did Vick not win?

Because actual NFL players don't think he is overrated.

bearsfan_51
10-28-2006, 08:47 PM
I firmly believe that the Falcons will never be able to beat us so long as Vick is their QB and Urlacher is our MLB. Urlacher's speed completely neutralizes Vick and containes his ability to run. I really only have two games to reinforce this, but in both games he was shut down.

bigbluedefense
10-28-2006, 08:50 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ok, I could be wrong there in terms of calling plays. But I am right in him not being an entirely bright fellow. Don't be blinded by his speed and athleticism. Prior to the implementation of Cover 2, Urlacher had repeatedly taken the wrong gaps and bad angles. Cover 2 was perfect for him because he gets to drop in a zone and just defend whatever comes in his way. Its also kept him relatively healthy keeping him farther away from the LOS. But I see many times he's not in the right spot, but because he's so athletically gifted, he's able to recuperate and make a play on the ball. That is great right now, but when you lose your speed, you gotta rely on your brains and instincts. Urlacher's is not elite in those categories.

You'll see in due time. Ive already stated he's the best in the league. But he clearly is not the smartest. I can name 5 MIKEs smarter than him. He just happens to be a hell of a lot faster.

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 08:51 PM
I firmly believe that the Falcons will never be able to beat us so long as Vick is their QB and Urlacher is our MLB. Urlacher's speed completely neutralizes Vick and containes his ability to run. I really only have two games to reinforce this, but in both games he was shut down.
no doubt. All the bears basically had to do was let Urlacher spy Vick. Vick had no chance in hell.

That is basically what I do in madden when I face the falcons :lol:

bigbluedefense
10-28-2006, 08:52 PM
IMO, Urlacher and Peppers have a distinct line drawn behind them as the two best defensive players in the game.

I think some people get "great tackle machines" mixed up with "great linebackers". Urlacher can make game changing plays and can single handely take games over. That is what GREAT players do, in other words...stats can be misleading. Yes, Fletcher, Vilma, and Thomas are all good players and vitalely important to their teams, but their stats are padded by not having talent around them. To stand out on defense like the Bears is impressive to say the least. Also, to say there is a better linebacker in the game today would be purley to play the "devil's advocate". Another good couple of seasons and will should easily be considered a top 10 LB of all time, thus an eventual HOFer.

He is definately not a HOFer yet. And there are definately 10 MIKEs in the history of the game better than him. Let's not overhype him like that just yet.

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 08:53 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ok, I could be wrong there in terms of calling plays. But I am right in him not being an entirely bright fellow. Don't be blinded by his speed and athleticism. Prior to the implementation of Cover 2, Urlacher had repeatedly taken the wrong gaps and bad angles. Cover 2 was perfect for him because he gets to drop in a zone and just defend whatever comes in his way. Its also kept him relatively healthy keeping him farther away from the LOS. But I see many times he's not in the right spot, but because he's so athletically gifted, he's able to recuperate and make a play on the ball. That is great right now, but when you lose your speed, you gotta rely on your brains and instincts. Urlacher's is not elite in those categories.

You'll see in due time. Ive already stated he's the best in the league. But he clearly is not the smartest. I can name 5 MIKEs smarter than him. He just happens to be a hell of a lot faster.
Give him a football IQ test. I bet you he would pass with flying colors.

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 08:55 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.


no doubt i think the top three are wilson,urlacher,lewis in no order..and urlacher is probably on the top of the list...but i can name a hand full mabey 2 of LBs faster then urlacher 2 being on the broncos...in williams and gold and possibly wilson as all of them run in the 4.45 range
I should have put it this way, there is no MLB who is faster then him in pads, on a field, IMHO.

bigbluedefense
10-28-2006, 09:00 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ok, I could be wrong there in terms of calling plays. But I am right in him not being an entirely bright fellow. Don't be blinded by his speed and athleticism. Prior to the implementation of Cover 2, Urlacher had repeatedly taken the wrong gaps and bad angles. Cover 2 was perfect for him because he gets to drop in a zone and just defend whatever comes in his way. Its also kept him relatively healthy keeping him farther away from the LOS. But I see many times he's not in the right spot, but because he's so athletically gifted, he's able to recuperate and make a play on the ball. That is great right now, but when you lose your speed, you gotta rely on your brains and instincts. Urlacher's is not elite in those categories.

You'll see in due time. Ive already stated he's the best in the league. But he clearly is not the smartest. I can name 5 MIKEs smarter than him. He just happens to be a hell of a lot faster.
Give him a football IQ test. I bet you he would pass with flying colors.

Let me clarify before I give the wrong impression. Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game. However, I feel he could be even better if he had the instincts of a Zach Thomas or Antonio Pierce (no homer, he's a smart dude). Urlacher gets by on his speed right now, but if he had Thomas's instincts, the guy would dominate this game like you wouldn't believe.

He's still the best MIKE in the game though.

jkpigskin
10-28-2006, 09:01 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ok, I could be wrong there in terms of calling plays. But I am right in him not being an entirely bright fellow. Don't be blinded by his speed and athleticism. Prior to the implementation of Cover 2, Urlacher had repeatedly taken the wrong gaps and bad angles. Cover 2 was perfect for him because he gets to drop in a zone and just defend whatever comes in his way. Its also kept him relatively healthy keeping him farther away from the LOS. But I see many times he's not in the right spot, but because he's so athletically gifted, he's able to recuperate and make a play on the ball. That is great right now, but when you lose your speed, you gotta rely on your brains and instincts. Urlacher's is not elite in those categories.

You'll see in due time. Ive already stated he's the best in the league. But he clearly is not the smartest. I can name 5 MIKEs smarter than him. He just happens to be a hell of a lot faster.
Give him a football IQ test. I bet you he would pass with flying colors.

Let me clarify before I give the wrong impression. Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game. However, I feel he could be even better if he had the instincts of a Zach Thomas or Antonio Pierce (no homer, he's a smart dude). Urlacher gets by on his speed right now, but if he had Thomas's instincts, the guy would dominate this game like you wouldn't believe.

He's still the best MIKE in the game though.

i have to agree with BBD.... urlacher is one guy who has enough skill and pure athleticism to get buy even without the great instincts... but his a gamer which makes him so good.... but with better instincts, i agree that he could be even more dominant

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 09:05 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ok, I could be wrong there in terms of calling plays. But I am right in him not being an entirely bright fellow. Don't be blinded by his speed and athleticism. Prior to the implementation of Cover 2, Urlacher had repeatedly taken the wrong gaps and bad angles. Cover 2 was perfect for him because he gets to drop in a zone and just defend whatever comes in his way. Its also kept him relatively healthy keeping him farther away from the LOS. But I see many times he's not in the right spot, but because he's so athletically gifted, he's able to recuperate and make a play on the ball. That is great right now, but when you lose your speed, you gotta rely on your brains and instincts. Urlacher's is not elite in those categories.

You'll see in due time. Ive already stated he's the best in the league. But he clearly is not the smartest. I can name 5 MIKEs smarter than him. He just happens to be a hell of a lot faster.
Give him a football IQ test. I bet you he would pass with flying colors.

Let me clarify before I give the wrong impression. Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game. However, I feel he could be even better if he had the instincts of a Zach Thomas or Antonio Pierce (no homer, he's a smart dude). Urlacher gets by on his speed right now, but if he had Thomas's instincts, the guy would dominate this game like you wouldn't believe.

He's still the best MIKE in the game though.
okay, that is reasonable. You were a bit misleading before :lol:

bearsfan_51
10-28-2006, 09:05 PM
I think your dislike for the cover 2 is rearing its head here.

Yes he had bad instincts as a rookie, he was also a converted safety playing at OLB, and then moved to MLB his second season, and he still won DROY and made the Pro-Bowl.

I have no idea if he's a top-five smartest Mike or not, but the system is geared towards Urlacher doing what he wants. He can line up right over the center, cut back, and cover the tight end 20 yards down the field. You're right, his athletic ability lets him do things other linebackers simply cannot do. That being said, when that ability starts to wane, I'm not so sure you can't say he won't be able to adjust simple because he hasn't had to yet.

Nitschke-Hawk
10-28-2006, 09:25 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.

That bolded part is pretty much what I've been thinking, I didn't know quite how to say it nor did I have the right situation to say it on here unless I made a thread, and well I'm a Packer fan so that would turn into a dumb arguement. Anyways, what I think is this: He is a great player, but not a great Middle Linebacker. There are some guys in this league that are great players but if you look at exactly what you want out of that position they aren't that great. And these guys get by on athleticism, example: is Randy Moss a great player? Yes. is he a great Wide Reciever? (is he exactly what you want out of a reciever?) No. (insert Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, etc.) Is Michael Vick a great player? Yes. Is he a great quarterback? No. Is Brian Urlacher a great player? Yes. Is he a great Middle Linebacker? No. He's a great player who happens to play Middle Linebacker. He has athletic ability that is top 5 in this league. That's all wonderful when he makes the top highlight reels, but if he wasn't the great athlete that he is what would he be?

As big and athletic as he is (6'4" 255), he doesn't shed blocks like he should to get to the run stopping tackles (that's what great Middle Backers do)Don't get me wrong I definitely do give him credit, I get to watch him every week living in the area I live in and he is amazing no doubt. Look, we're all football fans on here right? We all know something about football. If we all had that athletic ability that he has and were in the middle of that defense could we do the things he does? (Through many years of playing of course)

If you have the athletic ability Urlacher has and you were in his spot on that defense in the Arizona game, running around without any attempt by the opposition to get you blocked how many tackles would you make? It's not that hard to "take over a game" when you have that athleticism and nobody even tries to block you.

I don't know everything about football but I know that if I'm an Offensive Coordinator game planning against the Chicago Defense there's other players on that defense I have to try to take advantage of that are just as important as he is. So going into a Chicago game am I worried or scared of going against Urlacher? No but I'd be pulling hairs over the defense in general. Great player: Yes. Great Middle Linebacker:No. If you don't understand why I and I'm sure a few other people think these two things are different then that's fine but just remember that there's definitely more guys in the Hall of Fame because they were great at what their position required them to do versus being able to cover up their weaknesses by being a great athlete and putting up large stats.

Would I take him on my team? Of course. But I'd make sure I have a bunch of other guys with good and a few with great football instincts around him. Otherwise he's just flying around using his athleticism to clean up the trash left by very athletic but un-intelligent defensive teammates. I'd say Lance Briggs and Mike Brown have great instincts. Somebody said that Briggs wouldn't be the player he is if he wasn't with Urlacher which is true, however like we've been talking about great linebackers have great instincts and sometimes they trust them too much and guess wrong, which is why linebackers thrive so much when they have a great defense around them.

To add to this, Lance Briggs was on the Best Damn Sports Show Period after the Arizona game and stated that having Urlacher with him allows him to roam a bit and use his instincts to make plays and guess sometimes. And what is it about Urlacher that allows Briggs to do this? His athleticism. I think Urlacher's a tad overrated, I think he does get hyped for the right things, which is his athleticism and that allows him to do the things he does, but nobody mentions the things he doesn't do well on any broadcasts, however scouts and such would know those things.

I think he'll be a Hall of Famer and I think he should be if he keeps his play level close to this another 3 years. We'll also see how he compensates for losing his athletic ability in the future, see if he can really turn into a field general. If he had the mind of a Ray Lewis, Zack Thomas, Mike Singletary, etc. right now he'd probably be the best ever.

Nitschke-Hawk
10-28-2006, 09:39 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.
Um Brian Urlacher has called the plays. He is the one that calls for all the defensive audibles. He is the one that the coach gave the QB wrist to. Also, Brian Urlacher has great instincts. I have no idea where you are getting this from. He puts up great numbers year in and year out, even with all the talent around him. There is no LB faster then him. Turn on a Bears game once in a while, because quite honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Ok, I could be wrong there in terms of calling plays. But I am right in him not being an entirely bright fellow. Don't be blinded by his speed and athleticism. Prior to the implementation of Cover 2, Urlacher had repeatedly taken the wrong gaps and bad angles. Cover 2 was perfect for him because he gets to drop in a zone and just defend whatever comes in his way. Its also kept him relatively healthy keeping him farther away from the LOS. But I see many times he's not in the right spot, but because he's so athletically gifted, he's able to recuperate and make a play on the ball. That is great right now, but when you lose your speed, you gotta rely on your brains and instincts. Urlacher's is not elite in those categories.

You'll see in due time. Ive already stated he's the best in the league. But he clearly is not the smartest. I can name 5 MIKEs smarter than him. He just happens to be a hell of a lot faster.

Also when he was younger he largely benefitted from having Keith Traylor and Ted Washington in front of him thus basically padding his stats by getting those tackles caused by their run stoppage, anybody could do that. I believe it was his 1st year at MLB. Anyway that's really here nor there, he's benefitting from having a great defense around him right now. Just look at Zack Thomas right now, he has about 3 or 4 good players on his defense outside of him right now and he leads the league in tackles. That's what the best MLB's can do.

bigbluedefense
10-28-2006, 09:40 PM
If Urlacher is overated I challenge anyone to name a MLB in the game today better than him.

If you said Zach Thomas or Vilma, you're wrong.

Give him another MVP or a Pro Bowl or two and he's in the HOF.

Before I say this, understand that I believe Urlacher is the best MIKE in the game.

Having that said, I think he's overrated in a sense that he could be even better than he is, IF he only had a brain (duh duhadada [lame attempt at singing the Wizard of Oz]).

Urlacher does not call the plays, line up his teammates or call defensive audibles. I believe Mike Brown holds those responsibilities. I could be wrong though, and if I am, heck, Urlacher still doesn't do a good job at it. He is not a cerebral type linebacker. He gets by too much on his pure athleticism. I see him take the wrong angle many times, but he just happens to save himself and make an "incredible" play by thrusting his body back into the proper area and making a play. Thats all fine and dandy now, but he won't have that forever, and he will fall off HARD when he loses it. He has all the physical tools, but he has no brains to go with it.

I think Vilma can overtake him in a couple of years easily. He has the instincts and the brain. But Urlacher will fall off just like Ray Lewis. But unlike Lewis, his dropoff will be even worse because he won't have any instincts to fall back on.

That bolded part is pretty much what I've been thinking, I didn't know quite how to say it nor did I have the right situation to say it on here unless I made a thread, and well I'm a Packer fan so that would turn into a dumb arguement. Anyways, what I think is this: He is a great player, but not a great Middle Linebacker. There are some guys in this league that are great players but if you look at exactly what you want out of that position they aren't that great. And these guys get by on athleticism, example: is Randy Moss a great player? Yes. is he a great Wide Reciever? (is he exactly what you want out of a reciever?) No. (insert Torry Holt, Marvin Harrison, etc.) Is Michael Vick a great player? Yes. Is he a great quarterback? No. Is Brian Urlacher a great player? Yes. Is he a great Middle Linebacker? No. He's a great player who happens to play Middle Linebacker. He has athletic ability that is top 5 in this league. That's all wonderful when he makes the top highlight reels, but if he wasn't the great athlete that he is what would he be? As big and athletic as he is (6'4" 255), he doesn't shed blocks like he should to get to the run stopping tackles (that's what great Middle Backers do)Don't get me wrong I definitely do give him credit, I get to watch him every week living in the area I live in and he is amazing no doubt. Look, we're all football fans on here right? We all know something about football. If we all had that athletic ability that he has and were in the middle of that defense could we do the things he does? (Through many years of playing of course) If you have the athletic ability Urlacher has and you were in his spot on that defense in the Arizona game, running around without any attempt by the opposition to get you blocked how many tackles would you make? It's not that hard to "take over a game" when you have that athleticism and nobody even tries to block you. I don't know everything about football but I know that if I'm an Offensive Coordinator game planning against the Chicago Defense there's other players on that defense I have to try to take advantage of that are just as important as he is. So going into a Chicago game am I worried or scared of going against Urlacher? No but I'd be pulling hairs over the defense in general. Great player: Yes. Great Middle Linebacker:No. If you don't understand why I and I'm sure a few other people think these two things are different then that's fine but just remember that there's definitely more guys in the Hall of Fame because they were great at what their position required them to do versus being able to cover up their weaknesses by being a great athlete and putting up large stats. Would I take him on my team? Of course. But I'd make sure I have a bunch of other guys with good and a few with great football instincts around him. Otherwise he's just flying around using his athleticism to clean up the trash left by very athletic but un-intelligent defensive teammates. I'd say Lance Briggs and Mike Brown have great instincts. Somebody said that Briggs wouldn't be the player he is if he wasn't with Urlacher which is true, however like we've been talking about great linebackers have great instincts and sometimes they trust them too much and guess wrong, which is why linebackers thrive so much when they have a great defense around them. To add to this, Lance Briggs was on the Best Damn Sports Show Period after the Arizona game and stated that having Urlacher with him allows him to roam a bit and use his instincts to make plays and guess sometimes. And what is it about Urlacher that allows Briggs to do this? His athleticism. I think Urlacher's a tad overrated, I think he does get hyped for the right things, which is his athleticism and that allows him to do the things he does, but nobody mentions the things he doesn't do well on any broadcasts, however scouts and such would know those things. I think he'll be a Hall of Famer and I think he should be if he keeps his play level close to this another 3 years. We'll also see how he compensates for losing his athletic ability in the future, see if he can really turn into a field general. If he had the mind of a Ray Lewis, Zack Thomas, Mike Singletary, etc. right now he'd probably be the best ever.

Dude, you gotta make paragraphs. Holy crap that hurt my eyes.

I think being this is a draft website, alot of people get enamored with "measureables" and alot of times equate ability with it. Like Peppers has to be the best because he's an athletic freak. Mario Williams has to be good because he's so big and strong. But what we fail to realize is, this game is a game of brains. Some guys are athletes but not football players. Some guys are the other way around. We should not judge players based just on how big and fast they are, but also on what they do on the field. Alot of times we let 40 times and weight machines cloud our vision.

Mike Singletary physically has no business being considered one of the best MIKEs ever. But he was...because he was one of the smartest ever. Just an example to show what Im saying.

Courtney Brown had all the measureables, but he didn't turn out great.

Nitschke-Hawk
10-28-2006, 09:48 PM
:lol: I made it into paragraphs, that's a really long post. I never thought of it cause when I'm typing on the internet I don't really take the paragraph approach. I'm just glad I don't write or type run on sentences that's like talking too much or studdering terribly.

70challenger457
10-28-2006, 10:04 PM
If you specifically watch Urlacher during play, you will continusly be amazed at how many great things he does but go unnoticed. I remember focusing in on urlacher during the Cards-Bears game, on a 9 yard run by Edrin James, the edge's lead blocker was the strong side guard, Urlacher was chasing down Edge and absolutly lit up the guard at full sprint, I rewound it like 4 times, it was so awsome.

draftguru151
10-28-2006, 10:11 PM
What blue is saying is if you put Zach Thomas' brain in Brian Urlacher he would be the best player ever, instead he is just the best MLB in the game today.

P-L
10-28-2006, 10:29 PM
He wasn't overrated until this thread was started... :?

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 10:39 PM
What blue is saying is if you put Zach Thomas' brain in Brian Urlacher he would be the best player ever, instead he is just the best MLB in the game today.
I can live with that, i guess, even though I disagree with it a bit.

Smokey Joe
10-28-2006, 10:39 PM
He wasn't overrated until this thread was started... :?
You're Mother 8)

Nitschke-Hawk
10-28-2006, 10:50 PM
What blue is saying is if you put Zach Thomas' brain in Brian Urlacher he would be the best player ever, instead he is just the best MLB in the game today.

Pretty much. I think that's very true.

portermvp84
10-29-2006, 01:32 AM
Most underrated player in the game:

Buffalo Bills' MLB London Fletcher-Baker
http://assets.buffalobills.com/uploads/photo/5CDC700FFC9E402CBA355B806ACF0DB1.jpg

Discuss.

Nope...its Mike Vrabel. Seriously. How many times to hear his name mentioned amongst the top 3-4 OLBs in the game? Barely. Yet he's in the top 5 easily, probably top 3. Yet no love. Its Vrabel.

And Jason Taylor is the most underappreciated DE in the game.

And Kerry Rhodes is the most underappreciated Safety.

And Ty Warren is the most underappreciated DT (I know, he's technically a DE, but you get what I'm saying).

I agree I would also add in Leonard Little he is a great DE and he gets little respect.

Raiderz4Life
10-29-2006, 01:34 AM
Urlacher is a MONSTER!!!! Im not sure if im recalling this correctly but i believe in one game in HS he took out 2 QB's 1 RB and an OL with concussions for hitting them so hard.

jackalope
10-29-2006, 09:13 AM
i agree that Urlacher is extremely good and that he is the best MLB in the NFL, but i do think at times people overrate by thinking he's much more than that.

Ravens1991
10-29-2006, 09:19 AM
I think he is the best MLB, but no were near the best defensive player, that award goes to Jullius Peppers, Urlacher is probably top 5 ish or a little better when it comes to defensive players.

draftguru151
10-29-2006, 10:12 AM
Urlacher is a MONSTER!!!! Im not sure if im recalling this correctly but i believe in one game in HS he took out 2 QB's 1 RB and an OL with concussions for hitting them so hard.

Julius Pepper's 23 sacks in a game owns whatever Urlacher did.

sweetness34
10-29-2006, 10:14 AM
Urlacher is a MONSTER!!!! Im not sure if im recalling this correctly but i believe in one game in HS he took out 2 QB's 1 RB and an OL with concussions for hitting them so hard.

Julius Pepper's 23 sacks in a game owns whatever Urlacher did.

:shock:

Ravens1991
10-29-2006, 10:14 AM
A like draftguru?

TIP
10-29-2006, 10:30 AM
Urlacher is a MONSTER!!!! Im not sure if im recalling this correctly but i believe in one game in HS he took out 2 QB's 1 RB and an OL with concussions for hitting them so hard.

Julius Pepper's 23 sacks in a game owns whatever Urlacher did.
you mean a season? That sounds like BS...23 in a game? gimme a link or somethin...

draftguru151
10-29-2006, 10:33 AM
http://www.answers.com/topic/julius-peppers

Not 100% sure it is true, but I'd believe it.

bearsfan_51
10-29-2006, 10:39 AM
http://www.answers.com/topic/julius-peppers

Not 100% sure it is true, but I'd believe it.
That's stupid...this site is just like wikipedia. You can tell that it's just added on at the end and has no relevance. Most high school football teams don't even pass 23 times in a game.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
10-29-2006, 10:46 AM
http://www.answers.com/topic/julius-peppers

Not 100% sure it is true, but I'd believe it.
That's stupid...this site is just like wikipedia. You can tell that it's just added on at the end and has no relevance. Most high school football teams don't even pass 23 times in a game.

Maybe they count times he got to the QB before he could hand the ball off?

Ravens1991
10-29-2006, 10:55 AM
They took it off of wikipedia I check recently.

Smokey Joe
10-29-2006, 11:15 AM
This doesn't have anything to do with the subject, but you gotta love how humble Urlacher is. He is a great role model for high school and college players.

Brodeur
10-29-2006, 11:33 AM
http://www.answers.com/topic/julius-peppers

Not 100% sure it is true, but I'd believe it.
That's stupid...this site is just like wikipedia. You can tell that it's just added on at the end and has no relevance. Most high school football teams don't even pass 23 times in a game.

It is Wikipedia, except they copy wikipedia's article and don't edit it along with Wikipedia.

Vikes99ej
10-29-2006, 01:51 PM
What a stupid poll. Urlacher is great.

IBleedNavyandOrange
10-29-2006, 04:43 PM
This doesn't have anything to do with the subject, but you gotta love how humble Urlacher is. He is a great role model for high school and college players.

Yeah, except he fu¬Ęked Paris Hilton. Not exactly a role model in that.

I think if you call Urlacher an all-time great at MLB, that's overrating him.

If you call him the best MLB in football right now, that's not.

If you call him one of the top 3 defensive players in football right now, that's not.

If you call him a legitimate candidate for NFL MVP, that's not.

If you think he can hold Singletary's jock strap, that's overrating him.

While I disagree with 90% of BBD's opinions, I agree that Urlacher is getting by on athleticism. But let's be honest--Peppers isn't great because he's a cerebral player, he's great because he's a freak. Urlacher's the same way. Time will tell if he grows beyond being an athletic freak.

And by then, this "overrated" crap will blow over.

danman253
10-29-2006, 04:48 PM
After being at the bears game today and seeing him, anyone who calls him overrated is VYisagod dumb.

Splat
10-29-2006, 05:13 PM
Dare I say he is underrated you still don't here people talk about him all that much.

sweetness34
10-29-2006, 05:14 PM
After being at the bears game today and seeing him, anyone who calls him overrated is VYisagod dumb.

Urlacher's performance last week against Arizona should have shut these people up. Hell, is DPOTY should have shut these people up. :roll:

Shiver
10-29-2006, 11:30 PM
Brian Urlacher was overrated last year, the year before that. This is rediculous, these anonymous players need to put aside bias big time.

11-08-2006, 02:14 AM
i dont think he is overrated at all, i think he is a very good football player

DChess
11-08-2006, 02:17 AM
This doesn't have anything to do with the subject, but you gotta love how humble Urlacher is. He is a great role model for high school and college players.

stop being such a girl they were discussing something

11-08-2006, 02:18 AM
go away