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JoeMontainya
05-02-2007, 12:36 PM
AFC

1. Patriots 13-3
2. Jets 9-7
3. Dolphins 6-10
4. Bills 6-10

1. Ravens 12-4
2. Bengals 11-5
3. Browns 7-9
4. Steelers 7-9

1. Colts 11-5
2. Jaguars 9-7
3. Titans 6-10
4. Texans 2-14

1. Chargers 13-3
2. Broncos 10-6
3. Chiefs 8-8
4. Raiders 1-15

NFC

1. Cowboys 10-6
2. Eagles 9-7
3. Redskins 8-8
4. Giants 5-11

1. Bears 11-5
2. Packers 9-7
3. Vikings 7-9
4. Lions 4-12

1. Saints 9-7
2. Panthers 9-7
3. Bucaneers 6-10
4. Falcons 6-10

1. Cardinals 10-6
2. Rams 9-7
3. Seattle 8-8
4. 49ers 6-10


How do you think the conferences play out?

skinzzfan25
05-02-2007, 01:56 PM
Pretty fair assessment of the NFC East. Towards the end of the season things will be really close between two or more teams.

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:00 PM
How can there be so many wins in the AFC, but the NFC doesn't even have 1 12-win team? Yes, the AFC is a better conference right now, but even the NFC teams will win games.

bearsfan_51
05-02-2007, 02:09 PM
You've got the Cardinals getting a bye? Anything is possible, but I still think there are too many gaps and growing pains with this team to see them shoot above some of the other more established teams.

Then again people thought that about the Saints too, so you never know.

stl9erfan
05-02-2007, 02:15 PM
Those NFC West predictions are crazy. You think the Cardinals get that much better in their first year with a new HC? The Rams finish above the Seahawks? The 49ers got WORSE? (seriously, explain that one to me-- seven new starters on D, upgrades at both WR spots, another year of experience for QB Smith, and you think SF is regressing? Doesn't seem likely at all.)

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:22 PM
I hate predictions threads because they're all conjecture and just piss people off. I guarantee this is the first of 4 times we'll see this stuff. I also guarantee that each thread will become a homer discussion that loses grip on reality, and everyone ends up both dumber and angrier...

Jughead10
05-02-2007, 02:25 PM
I hate predictions threads because they're all conjecture and just piss people off. I guarantee this is the first of 4 times we'll see this stuff. I also guarantee that each thread will become a homer discussion that loses grip on reality, and everyone ends up both dumber and angrier...

This is true. I don't care about thee Cowboys and Eagles being ahead of the Giants, but how can anyone at this point in time say the Skins are three games better than the G-Men.

The Dynasty
05-02-2007, 02:39 PM
I wonder how the Bears do this year, since teams that lose the superbowl seems not to make it back. I think with the NFC North they will do fine just interesting.

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 02:41 PM
I love these predictions. Because everyone always overshoots the # of wins.

Remember guys, for every win, youre supposed have a loss. If you add up your win totals, it should equal your loss totals.

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:41 PM
Who cares? It's April, the draft picks have not been signed, June FA hasn't taken place, and we don't know the extent of training camp injuries. holdouts, etc. If I were a mod, I'd lock this thread because of sheer irrelevance.

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:42 PM
I love these predictions. Because everyone always overshoots the # of wins.

Remember guys, for every win, youre supposed have a loss. If you add up your win totals, it should equal your loss totals.

Actually, Joe came pretty close. He has 257 W's to 255 losses. An acceptable margin of error. Let's not even discuss his picks, though.

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 02:46 PM
Actually, Joe came pretty close. He has 257 W's to 255 losses. An acceptable margin of error. Let's not even discuss his picks, though.

I know, Im just givin a heads up for the people will come in, say he's all wrong, and give their version of it. You'll see most people overshoot the win column.

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:48 PM
I give no credence to any of these predictions. These prognostications are as useless as guidos.

DeathbyStat
05-02-2007, 02:50 PM
AFC

1. Patriots 13-3
2. Jets 9-7
3. Dolphins 6-10
4. Bills 6-10

1. Ravens 12-4
2. Bengals 11-5
3. Browns 7-9
4. Steelers 7-9

1. Colts 11-5
2. Jaguars 9-7
3. Titans 6-10
4. Texans 2-14

1. Chargers 13-3
2. Broncos 10-6
3. Chiefs 8-8
4. Raiders 1-15

NFC

1. Cowboys 10-6
2. Eagles 9-7
3. Redskins 8-8
4. Giants 5-11

1. Bears 11-5
2. Packers 9-7
3. Vikings 7-9
4. Lions 4-12

1. Saints 9-7
2. Panthers 9-7
3. Bucaneers 6-10
4. Falcons 6-10

1. Cardinals 10-6
2. Rams 9-7
3. Seattle 8-8
4. 49ers 6-10


How do you think the conferences play out?

Raider 1-15....why? why?

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 02:51 PM
I give no credence to any of these predictions. These prognostications are as useless as guidos.

Eh, the forum needs some life in the offseason. Get ready for a bunch of useless threads. Theyll be plentiful until PS starts.

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:52 PM
I'm well aware. It's hard to really discuss contracts with any excitement. I just hate this time of year so much...

bored of education
05-02-2007, 02:53 PM
AFC

1. Patriots 11-5
2. Bills 10-6
3. Jets 10-6
4. Dolpins 7-9

1. Steelers 10-6
2. Ravens 9-7
3. Bengals 8-8
4. Browns 6-10

1. Colts 12-4
2. Jaguars 9-7
3. Titans 6-10
4. Texans 4-12

1. Chargers 13-3
2. Broncos 11-5
3. Chiefs 9-7
4. Raiders 3-13

NFC

1. Cowboys 12-4
2. Eagles 8-8
3. Redskins 8-8
4. Giants 5-11

1. Bears 10-6
2. Packers 8-8
3. Vikings 8-8
4. Lions 5-11

1. Saints 11-5
2. Panthers 9-7
3. Bucaneers 6-10
4. Falcons 6-10

1. Rams 11-5
2. 49ers 9-7
3. Seattle 7-9
4. Cardinals 6-10

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:55 PM
There we go! Crazy stuff! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!!

bearsfan_51
05-02-2007, 02:55 PM
This is true. I don't care about thee Cowboys and Eagles being ahead of the Giants, but how can anyone at this point in time say the Skins are three games better than the G-Men.
I've got the Giants winning about 5-6 games too.

THIZZorDIE
05-02-2007, 02:56 PM
You think the niners will go 6-10 after seeing us @ Denver and our offseason combined. Harsh. I think you're off.

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:56 PM
The Redskins got Laron Landry and didn't improve their offense or their defensive front. Of course they're better...

bearsfan_51
05-02-2007, 02:56 PM
I give no credence to any of these predictions. These prognostications are as useless as guidos.
Guidos support the economy. If it wasn't for them fake gold and hair gel stocks would plummet.

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:57 PM
I love it!!!! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!! FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!!!

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 02:57 PM
Guidos support the economy. If it wasn't for them fake gold and hair gel stocks would plummet.

Dont forget tanning salons, Nair for men, and g-unit clothing

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Guidos support the economy. If it wasn't for them fake gold and hair gel stocks would plummet.

Don't forget black market steroids dealers, unqualified personal trainers, and the Atlantic City boardwalk economy...

Jughead10
05-02-2007, 02:59 PM
I've got the Giants winning about 5-6 games too.

I guess I just don't see it. Looking into the season we have a much easier schedule than last year (thank you NFC North, you Bears fans should know all about that), and at this point of the season you have to assume everyone is healthy, which has been possibly our biggest problem.

bsaza2358
05-02-2007, 03:01 PM
The NFC East will be contested, and no team should do better than 4-2 in division. It will come down to out of divsion schedule, coaching, and injuries. I think the Eagles and Cowboys are the favorites, but all 4 teams have a legitimate chance to win the division. At the very least, I expect the East to send 2 teams to the playoffs.

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 03:04 PM
I HATE guidos....

bored of education
05-02-2007, 03:10 PM
Giants are the 4th worst team

Jughead10
05-02-2007, 03:11 PM
Giants are the 4th worst team

In the NFL?

bored of education
05-02-2007, 03:12 PM
nope their division

1/4 to 10,000 HOLLERS!!!!!!

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 03:12 PM
I think people are underestimating how badly Tim Lewis sabatoged our defense last year.

But I digress, because Tom Coughlin continues to do the same to our offense.

Xonraider
05-02-2007, 03:13 PM
Raiders 3-13 and 1-15... that is a great sense of humor.

bored of education
05-02-2007, 03:19 PM
ok maybe 6-10?

Xonraider
05-02-2007, 03:21 PM
ok maybe 6-10?

Yeah.. much more realistic.

bearsfan_51
05-02-2007, 03:40 PM
I guess I just don't see it. Looking into the season we have a much easier schedule than last year (thank you NFC North, you Bears fans should know all about that), and at this point of the season you have to assume everyone is healthy, which has been possibly our biggest problem.

That's true, I did forget about the North.

The Giants are short a Left Tackle with an immobile Quarterback. They have no leadership and a roster full of cantankerous players and a lame duck coach that nobody likes or respects. They lost their bail-out offensive weapon, have a very blah defense that basically is two tremendous defensive-ends, a good middle linebacker, and everyone else.

Honestly when I think about it, I'm suprised the Giants even won 8 games last year. Chalk that up to a hot start by Eli and Tiki Barber.

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 03:51 PM
That's true, I did forget about the North.

The Giants are short a Left Tackle with an immobile Quarterback. They have no leadership and a roster full of cantankerous players and a lame duck coach that nobody likes or respects. They lost their bail-out offensive weapon, have a very blah defense that basically is two tremendous defensive-ends, a good middle linebacker, and everyone else.

Honestly when I think about it, I'm suprised the Giants even won 8 games last year. Chalk that up to a hot start by Eli and Tiki Barber.

I think if we do poorly, its mostly because of coaching.

Our talent isn't that bad at all. And one thing to note, the Giants are usually a team that does well when everyone writes them off.

But I think it could go either way. I wouldn't be surprised to see us tank the season.

skinzzfan25
05-02-2007, 04:50 PM
Plus wasen't Tiki like 60% of your total offense?

A lot more weight is going to be put on Eli's shoulders, plus Coughlin doesn't help lol. This is his make or break season in my opinion (Both Eli and Coughlin now that I think of it).

SeanTaylorRIP
05-02-2007, 05:21 PM
AFC

AFC East
1. Patriots 14-2
2. Jets 8-8
3. Dolphins 8-8
4. Bills 5-11

AFC North
1. Ravens 11-5
2. Bengals 9-7
3. Steelers 8-8
4. Browns 7-9

AFC South
1. Colts 12-4
2. Jaguars 10-6
3. Titans 8-8
4. Texans 4-12

AFC West
1. Chargers 11-5
2. Broncos 9-7
3. Chiefs 6-10
4. Raiders 3-13

NFC

NFC East
1. Cowboys 10-6
2. Redskins 10-6
3. Eagles 8-8
4. Giants 7-9

NFC North
1. Bears 13-3
2. Packers 8-8
3. Vikings 7-9
4. Lions 3-13

NFC South
1. Saints 11-5
2. Panthers 10-6
3. Falcons 9-7
4. Bucs 5-11

NFC West
1. Seahawks 10-6
2. 49ers 9-7
3. Cardinals 7-9
4. Rams 4-12

JoeMontainya
05-02-2007, 05:26 PM
You've got the Cardinals getting a bye? Anything is possible, but I still think there are too many gaps and growing pains with this team to see them shoot above some of the other more established teams.

Then again people thought that about the Saints too, so you never know.

Name me 1 year in the NFL where everything exspected happens? Theres allways that "one team" that surprises everyone. What if I told you at the beggining of 2006 the Saints would be that good?

JoeMontainya
05-02-2007, 05:27 PM
Those NFC West predictions are crazy. You think the Cardinals get that much better in their first year with a new HC? The Rams finish above the Seahawks? The 49ers got WORSE? (seriously, explain that one to me-- seven new starters on D, upgrades at both WR spots, another year of experience for QB Smith, and you think SF is regressing? Doesn't seem likely at all.)

Cardinals? You mean to tell me 1 year after what the Saints did, it cant happen with the Cardinals? no more than 2 years ago both there offense and deffense were ranked top 6 overall!

Shiver
05-02-2007, 05:33 PM
I hate the off-season.

JoeMontainya
05-02-2007, 05:34 PM
Raiders 3-13 and 1-15... that is a great sense of humor.

Im sure every team would love an extra 3 wins since there such big fans, but dont flatter yourself.

GB12
05-02-2007, 05:35 PM
I guess I just don't see it. Looking into the season we have a much easier schedule than last year (thank you NFC North, you Bears fans should know all about that), and at this point of the season you have to assume everyone is healthy, which has been possibly our biggest problem.

Well at this moment I'd put the Bears down as a loss and the Lions as a win. Then I think either the Packers or Vikings will get you. I think 2-2 is how it ends up.

Shiver
05-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Alright, here is my crack at conjecture:

AFC East

1. New England - 13-3
2. New York - 10-6
3. Buffalo - 7-9
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Cincinnati - 11-5
2. Baltimore - 10-6
3. Cleveland - 7-9
4. Pittsburgh - 5-11

AFC South

1. Indianapolis - 10-6
2. Houston - 9-7
3. Jacksonville - 8-8
4. Tennessee - 3-13

AFC West

1. Denver - 12-4
2. San Diego - 7-9
3. Oakland - 6-10
4. Kansas City - 6-10

NFC East

1. Dallas - 11-5
2. Philadelphia - 7-9
3. Washington - 6-10
4. New York - 5-11

NFC North

1. Chicago - 10-6
2. Detroit - 8-8
3. Minnesota - 8-8
4. Green Bay - 5-11

NFC South

1. Carolina - 10-6
2. Atlanta - 10-6
3. New Orleans - 9-7
4. Tampa Bay - 6-10

NFC West

1. San Francisco - 11-5
2. St Louis - 9-7
3. Arizona - 7-9
4. Seattle - 6-10

bearsfan_51
05-02-2007, 06:21 PM
Name me 1 year in the NFL where everything exspected happens? Theres allways that "one team" that surprises everyone. What if I told you at the beggining of 2006 the Saints would be that good?
Didn't I just say that in my post brainlord?

bearsfan_51
05-02-2007, 06:22 PM
And one thing to note, the Giants are usually a team that does well when everyone writes them off.
True as that may be, it's not at all relavent to the 2007 New York Giants.

Shiver
05-02-2007, 06:29 PM
I think BBD is going to hate me.

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 06:29 PM
True as that may be, it's not at all relavent to the 2007 New York Giants.

Yeah, but still, I need something to hold on to.

Im not sure how I feel about this season. Part of me thinks we can surprise alot of people, because our "holes" are blown out of proportion. The other part of me wouldn't mind at all seeing Coughlin fired. As you know, Im not a big Coughlin fan at all.

So I don't know.....Coughlin failing surely indicates that Eli will most likely have a poor season as a result of it, which is something I do not want to see.

At the same time, I don't want Coughlin coaching this team. So I don't know.

But I think we're gonna surprise alot of people defensively this year. People don't understand how bad Tim Lewis truely was.

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 06:32 PM
I think BBD is going to hate me.

Na. That could very well be our season. Who knows. I won't write off any possibility. We can do great, we can do horrible. Both are realistic possibilities.

Shiver
05-02-2007, 06:54 PM
Na. That could very well be our season. Who knows. I won't write off any possibility. We can do great, we can do horrible. Both are realistic possibilities.

Come on man, I want to see your baseless conjecture. I've put myself out there, the least you could do is join into the fray.

Hines
05-02-2007, 07:41 PM
y does everyone have the steelers doin so porely
all they did was lose joey
and thats it
ya bill is gone but still they got a great coach in tomlin
and im sorry but the bengals didnt really help themselves
the browns did somewhat but r very young and wont be good for a few years
and the ravens r the ravens
they r gettin old and need to rebuild soona nd i dont think they will be that good

bein a homer i have the steelers winnin the division

GB12
05-02-2007, 08:23 PM
y does everyone have the steelers doin so porely
all they did was lose joey
and thats it
ya bill is gone but still they got a great coach in tomlin
and im sorry but the bengals didnt really help themselves
the browns did somewhat but r very young and wont be good for a few years
and the ravens r the ravens
they r gettin old and need to rebuild soona nd i dont think they will be that good

bein a homer i have the steelers winnin the division

Wow, would you please learn how to type.

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 08:31 PM
Come on man, I want to see your baseless conjecture. I've put myself out there, the least you could do is join into the fray.

This is very preliminary. I didn't get a chance to analyze everyone's drafts in detail yet. And for those asking, yes, the homer in me refused to put the Gmen at the bottom of the NFC East. I can't do it. I just can't do it.

AFC East

1. New England - 12-4 (these mofos are due for some bad luck, Im not gonna hand them the SB just yet)
2. New York - 7-9
3. Buffalo - 7-9
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Cincinnati - 12-4
2. Baltimore - 11-5
3. Cleveland - 7-9
4. Pittsburgh - 6-10

AFC South

1. Jacksonville - 13-3
2. Indianapolis - 10-6
3. Houston - 9-7
4. Tennessee - 3-13

AFC West

1. Denver - 10-6
2. San Diego - 7-9
3. Oakland - 7-9
4. Kansas City - 4-12

NFC East

1. Philadelphia - 12-4
2. New York - 8-8
3. Washington - 6-10
4. Dallas - 6-10

NFC North

1. Green Bay - 10-6
2. Chicago - 9-7
3. Detroit - 6-10
4. Minnesota - 5-11

NFC South

1. Carolina - 10-6
2. Atlanta - 9-7
3. New Orleans - 7-9
4. Tampa Bay - 5-11

NFC West

1. Arizona - 10-6
2. St Louis - 9-7
3. Seattle - 8-8
4. San Francisco - 7-9

Boston
05-02-2007, 08:33 PM
Best one yet.

Shiver
05-02-2007, 08:34 PM
Best one yet.

Of course you would like that one.

BlindSite
05-02-2007, 08:39 PM
I honestly see the Panthers winning our division. Even with the mess of injuries we had (2nd most in the NFL) we finished 8-8 went 5-1 yes, 5-1 in the division including a sweep of New Orleans and Tampa Bay.

We can do better now we've got a much easier schedule, play our toughest opponents are home and are healthy.

Shiver
05-02-2007, 08:40 PM
This is very preliminary. I didn't get a chance to analyze everyone's drafts in detail yet. And for those asking, yes, the homer in me refused to put the Gmen at the bottom of the NFC East. I can't do it. I just can't do it.

AFC East

1. New England - 12-4 (these mofos are due for some bad luck, Im not gonna hand them the SB just yet)
2. New York - 7-9
3. Buffalo - 7-9
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Cincinnati - 12-4
2. Baltimore - 11-5
3. Cleveland - 7-9
4. Pittsburgh - 6-10

AFC South

1. Jacksonville - 13-3
2. Indianapolis - 10-6
3. Houston - 9-7
4. Tennessee - 3-13

AFC West

1. Denver - 10-6
2. San Diego - 7-9
3. Oakland - 7-9
4. Kansas City - 4-12

NFC East

1. Philadelphia - 12-4
2. New York - 8-8
3. Washington - 6-10
4. Dallas - 6-10

NFC North

1. Green Bay - 10-6
2. Chicago - 9-7
3. Detroit - 6-10
4. Minnesota - 5-11

NFC South

1. Carolina - 10-6
2. Atlanta - 9-7
3. New Orleans - 7-9
4. Tampa Bay - 5-11

NFC West

1. Arizona - 10-6
2. St Louis - 9-7
3. Seattle - 8-8
4. San Francisco - 7-9

Notes:


Why are you so low on San Francisco? I have them and Arizona flipped.
We have the same NFC South, AFC West, AFC East, AFC North.
I do not like Green Bay, actually. I have them pegged for last place in fact.
I also don't see eye to eye with you on Dallas, care to elaborate?

bearsfan_51
05-02-2007, 08:42 PM
What has Green Bay done to improve themselves? Sign Frank Walker? I was all for calling them the biggest threat to the Bears in January but I'm not so sure now.

comahan
05-02-2007, 08:46 PM
Well, here's mine.

AFC East

1. New England - 12-4
2. New York - 8-8
3. Buffalo - 8-8
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Baltimore - 11-5
2. Cincinnati - 10-6
3. Pittsburgh - 8-8
4. Cleveland - 6-10

AFC South

1. Indianapolis - 12-4
2. Jacksonville - 11-5
3. Houston - 8-8
4. Tennessee - 4-12

AFC West

1. Denver - 10-6
2. San Diego - 7-9
3. Kansas City - 6-10
4. Oakland - 5-11

NFC East

1. Philadelphia - 12-4
2. Washington - 7-9
3. Dallas - 7-9
4. New York - 6-10

NFC North

1. Chicago - 9-7
2. Green Bay - 9-7
3. Minnesota - 6-10
4. Detroit - 5-11

NFC South

1. Atlanta - 10-6
2. Carolina - 10-6
3. New Orleans - 7-9
4. Tampa Bay - 4-12

NFC West

1. St Louis - 10-6
2. Arizona - 8-8
3. Seattle - 8-8
4. San Francisco - 8-8

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 08:51 PM
Notes:


Why are you so low on San Francisco? I have them and Arizona flipped.
We have the same NFC South, AFC West, AFC East, AFC North.
I do not like Green Bay, actually. I have them pegged for last place in fact.
I also don't see eye to eye with you on Dallas, care to elaborate?


San Fransisco:

-I don't like their offseason moves. I think their FA signings are overrated. They overpaid for a bunch of average talent. They still haven't addressed NT yet they plan on switching to the 3-4 fulltime.

-Losing Norv turner will hurt this team. Even if they replace his Xs and Os, they can't replace his mentoring

-I personally feel they still haven't addressed their WR position adequately

-Theyre simply not there yet. They need another year of development. While everyone praises Alex Smith, they forget that he really didn't have THAT great of a year. I mean come on, he did ok, but not great. Frank Gore, who is their offense, is too fumble prone and is one hit away from calling his career a wrap, and I just feel that theyre not strong enough on the lines to win at the point of attack.

Green Bay
- I think they make the leap this year. Theyve had solid offseasons, and their defense is on its way to being pretty darned good. I just think that if anyone is gonna overtake the Bears, its gonna be GB. Just a hunch sort of thing. Detroit lacks character. And Minny hates its coach. Theres gonna be a huge revolt in that lockerroom, Coughlin style.


Dallas:
- TO in year 2
- TO with a spineless HC who's arrogant
- Weak dline
- Aging WRs
- Too much negative media attention without a strong coach to handle it
- JJ will meddle in affairs much more now without BP in the way
- Parity....too healthy last year. They won't have the same luck 2 years in a row.

Again, its all very preliminary, and I didn't put too much thought into it. I sort of just did it on the fly.

Number 10
05-02-2007, 08:51 PM
I hate the off-season.

I love it....

You get to find out who the idiots are...like the Skins fans last year that were putting them at the top of their division...and we got to shove it down their throat all season.

bigbluedefense
05-02-2007, 08:53 PM
What has Green Bay done to improve themselves? Sign Frank Walker? I was all for calling them the biggest threat to the Bears in January but I'm not so sure now.

A young team will improve itself with experience. When youre young, you don't necessarily need extra players to get better. Experience should help improve the units as a whole by itself.

Plus year 2 under a new HC.

Im basing alot of my predictions on the simple law of parity.

What goes up must eventually fall down right? Theres gotta be at least 4 underachievers, and 4 overachievers every year.

JK17
05-02-2007, 08:56 PM
y does everyone have the steelers doin so porely
all they did was lose joey
and thats it
ya bill is gone but still they got a great coach in tomlin
and im sorry but the bengals didnt really help themselves
the browns did somewhat but r very young and wont be good for a few years
and the ravens r the ravens
they r gettin old and need to rebuild soona nd i dont think they will be that good

bein a homer i have the steelers winnin the division

All you did was lose Joey...and lose cowher....

for everything the bengals didn't do to help themselves, or however old the ravens are, what did Pittsburgh to do get better? I don't think teams need a good offseason to necesarily be better, but its not like you guys did much more than the Bengals...

Besides the losses you mentioned are losses from a team that didn't have a winning record, and missed the playoffs, so maybe that's why people have the Steelers "doin so porely"

GB12
05-02-2007, 08:59 PM
AFC East

1. New England - 12-4
2.Buffalo- 8-8
3. New York - 8-8
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Cincinnati - 11-5
2. Baltimore - 10-6
3. Pittsburgh - 7-9
4. Cleveland - 6-10

AFC South


1. Indianapolis - 12-4
2. Jacksonville - 9-7
3. Houston - 8-8
4. Tennessee - 4-12

AFC West

1. Denver - 11-5
2. San Diego - 10-6
3. Oakland - 6-10
4. Kansas City - 5-11

NFC East

1. Philadelphia - 10-6
3. Dallas - 8-8
3. Washington - 7-9
4. New York - 6-10

NFC North

1. Chicago - 10-6
2. Green Bay - 9-7
3. Detroit - 5-11
4. Minnesota - 5-11

NFC South

1. New Orleans - 11-5
2. Atlanta - 9-7
3. Carolina - 8-8
4. Tampa Bay - 4-12

NFC West


1. St Louis - 10-6
2. Seattle - 8-8
3. Arizona - 8-8
4. San Francisco - 7-9

Geo
05-02-2007, 09:10 PM
All the Steelers did was lose Joey Porter? Huh, apparently there's no need to mention that: (1) the team lost both its offensive coordinator and more importantly its offensive line coach; (2) aging veterans are now a year older; and (3) with Cowher and Wisenhunt gone, there's no one to get the most out of Roethlisberger. That is, when he's not naming or gestering to (phantom) injuries whenever he makes another bone-headed play.

Bengals1690
05-02-2007, 09:13 PM
EDIT- ill do it, but itll be quick

AFC North
1.Bengals- 11-5
2.Ravens-11-5
3.Steelers-9-7
4. Browns-5-11

AFC East-
1.Patriots-12-4
2.New York-9-7
3.Buffalo- 6-10
4 Miami-4-12

AFC South-
1. Indianapolis-11-5
2. Jacksonville- 9-7
3. Houston-7-9
4. Titans-4-12

AFC West-
1.San Diego- 14-2
2. Denver-10-6
3. Kansas City- 6-10
4. Oakland- 4-12


NFC North-
1.Chicago- 12-4
2. Green Bay- 9-7
3. Detriot- 7-9
4. Minnesota- 5-11

NFC East
1. Philly- 11-5
2. Dallas- 10-6
3. Washington- 7-9
4. New York- 6-10

NFC South
1. Carolina- 11-5
2. New Orleans- 9-7
3. Atlanta-7-9
4. Tampa Bay- 5-11

NFC West-
1. St. Louis- 10-6
2. San Fransisco- 7-9
3. Arizona- 7-9
Seattle- 5-11

bearsfan_51
05-02-2007, 09:13 PM
A young team will improve itself with experience. When youre young, you don't necessarily need extra players to get better. Experience should help improve the units as a whole by itself.

Plus year 2 under a new HC.

Im basing alot of my predictions on the simple law of parity.

What goes up must eventually fall down right? Theres gotta be at least 4 underachievers, and 4 overachievers every year.

Fair enough, I just think there's enough longterm shelflife in this team to sustain us for one more year. I think some people are forgetting how far beyond the Bears were from the other teams in the NFC North (let alone the rest of the NFC) last year. In the last two years in games that counted for something (ie: games where we weren't starting backups) the Bears are 10-0 against the NFC North generally with a double-digit margin of victory.

Obviously things change, and their differential in talent is already shifting, but I think we've got at least one more year at the top of the division, even if it's not locked up by week 12 this time around.

bored of education
05-02-2007, 09:25 PM
AFC

1. Patriots 11-5
2. Bills 10-6
3. Jets 10-6
4. Dolpins 7-9

1. Steelers 10-6
2. Ravens 9-7
3. Bengals 8-8
4. Browns 6-10

1. Colts 12-4
2. Jaguars 9-7
3. Titans 6-10
4. Texans 4-12

1. Chargers 13-3
2. Broncos 11-5
3. Chiefs 9-7
4. Raiders 3-13

NFC

1. Cowboys 12-4
2. Eagles 8-8
3. Redskins 8-8
4. Giants 5-11

1. Bears 10-6
2. Packers 8-8
3. Vikings 8-8
4. Lions 5-11

1. Saints 11-5
2. Panthers 9-7
3. Bucaneers 6-10
4. Falcons 6-10

1. Rams 11-5
2. 49ers 9-7
3. Seattle 7-9
4. Cardinals 6-10

AFC PLayoffs: Colts, Pats, Chargers, Steelers
WC: Bills, Broncos
NFC: Cowboys, Saints, Bears, Rams
WC: Panthers, NINERS
SUBER BOWL: Broncos v. Rams

nobodyinparticular
05-02-2007, 09:53 PM
gosh, i can't wait for the power rankings threads wherein the standings will look almost exactly like they did at the end of last year because some people think just because something happened last year, it will happen again. come september, i may be tempted into making a sig bet about the chargers/patriots/bengals.

Hey, that's my pet project, don't knock it!

nobodyinparticular
05-02-2007, 09:56 PM
Guidos support the economy. If it wasn't for them fake gold and hair gel stocks would plummet.

So basically Wal-mart would go out of business?

Bigburt63
05-02-2007, 09:58 PM
EDIT- ill do it, but itll be quick

AFC North
1.Bengals- 11-5
2.Ravens-11-5
3.Steelers-9-7
4. Browns-5-11

AFC East-
1.Patriots-12-4
2.New York-9-7
3.Buffalo- 6-10
4 Miami-4-12

AFC South-
1. Indianapolis-11-5
2. Jacksonville- 9-7
3. Houston-7-9
4. Titans-4-12

AFC West-
1.San Diego- 14-2
2. Denver-10-6
3. Kansas City- 6-10
4. Oakland- 4-12


NFC North-
1.Chicago- 12-4
2. Green Bay- 9-7
3. Detriot- 7-9
4. Minnesota- 5-11

NFC East
1. Philly- 11-5
2. Dallas- 10-6
3. Washington- 7-9
4. New York- 6-10

NFC South
1. Carolina- 11-5
2. New Orleans- 9-7
3. Atlanta-7-9
4. Tampa Bay- 5-11

NFC West-
1. St. Louis- 10-6
2. San Fransisco- 7-9
3. Arizona- 7-9
Seattle- 5-11


you really think seattle will be that bad?

Bengals1690
05-02-2007, 10:01 PM
you really think seattle will be that bad?

in a word, yes. aim not reallya fan of them, they have no big playmakers on offense, and matt hassellbeck is inconsitent and overrated. They also have a pretty bad secondary.

ny10804
05-02-2007, 10:01 PM
1. Patriots 8-8
2. Jets 8-8
3. Dolphins 8-8
4. Bills 8-8

1. Ravens 8-8
2. Bengals 8-8
3. Browns 8-8
4. Steelers 8-8

1. Colts 8-8
2. Jaguars 8-8
3. Titans 8-8
4. Texans 8-8

1. Chargers 8-8
2. Broncos 8-8
3. Chiefs 8-8
4. Raiders 8-8

NFC

1. Cowboys 8-8
2. Eagles 8-8
3. Redskins 8-8
4. Giants 8-8

1. Packers 16-0
2. Vikings 8-8
3. Lions 8-8
4. Bears 0-16

1. Saints 8-8
2. Panthers 8-8
3. Bucaneers 8-8
4. Falcons 8-8

1. Cardinals 8-8
2. Rams 8-8
3. Seattle 8-8
4. 49ers 8-8


Can someone check to see if the math is sound?

Bigburt63
05-02-2007, 10:04 PM
in a word, yes. aim not reallya fan of them, they have no big playmakers on offense, and matt hassellbeck is inconsitent and overrated. They also have a pretty bad secondary.

I'm not too high on them either, but I just think that they have enough to get more than 5 wins if they can stay healthy