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TheChampIsHere
05-03-2007, 03:38 AM
QB - McCown (Russell holding the clipboard for a little while)
HB - Jordan/Rhodes/Fargas (Bush probably wont see many carries til later in the season)
FB - Griffith
WR1 - Porter
WR2 - BMW
WR3 - Curry
WR4 - Higgins...I expect that all 4 receivers will see the field a lot as we package in different players. Porter should be the only one constantly on the field.
TE - Miller
LT - Sims (Henderson could possibly emerge as a starter sometime in the 2nd half of the season)
LG - Carlisle
C - Newberry...Grove could see his way into the starting lineup at C/OG
RG - Boothe
RT - Gallery

LE - Burgess
RE - Brayton/Moses (moses for passing downs)
DT - Sands/Kelly
DT - Sapp/Kelly...Kelly will spell both
SLB - Howard (I think we are planning on moving him, I could be wrong)
MLB - Morrison
WLB - Robert Thomas/Sam Williams....If Williams starts he'll probly play SLB and Howard would be at WLB
CB1: Fabian
CB2: Asumgha
CB3: Routt (is he in for a breakout year?)
FS - Schweigert
SS - Huff

RS - Carr
K - Janikowski
P - Lechler



Honestly that doesnt look too bad and I feel like we have a pretty deep roster also. I love the depth we have at the skill positions.

RaiderLifer
05-03-2007, 10:25 AM
Here is my two cents

QB-McCown-Russell will see action in the fourth quarter of games out of reach and will make a start or two if we are completely out of it by the end of the year)
RB-Jordan/Rhodes/Fargas (Bush will see action later in the year)
FB-Griffith
WR-Porter
WR-Curry (when we go 3 wide Curry will play the slot)
WR-BMW
WR-Higgins (I expect him to play quite a bit)
TE-Miller
LT-Sims/Gallery
LR-Carlisle/Grove
C-Newberry/Grove
RG-Boothe/Grove
RT-Gallery/Henderson

LE-Burgess
RE-Kelly (Moses or Huntley on passing downs)
DT-Sands (Kelly on passing downs)
DT-Sapp
SLB-Howard/Williams
MLB-Morrison
WLB-Bing/Thomas
CB-Aso
CB-Fab
CB-Routt
FS-Stu (this is his breakout year, if he struggles you could see Huff at FS and Frampton at SS)
SS-Huff (5 picks and two ff's tisyear)

KR-Carr
PR-Higgins
P-Lechler
K-Jano

Paranoidmoonduck
05-03-2007, 11:25 AM
OP, I think that BMW, for the time being, is our #3 wideout. Also, Kelly has apparently move outside while Brayton has moved inside.

And Mario Henderson is nowhere near starting.

portermvp84
05-03-2007, 11:40 AM
I personally think Ronald Curry would be a better number 2 reieiver than MW will be.

NIN1984
05-03-2007, 12:00 PM
I would really like to see Bing win the job and I think Tommy Kelly will be moving to DE

Burgess
Sapp
Sands
Kelly

Howard
Morrison
Bing

I like that front seven the best.

bernbabybern820
05-03-2007, 12:50 PM
I like Robert Thomas over Bing or Williams right now.

RaiderNation
05-03-2007, 06:10 PM
i think curry will be our 2nd wr

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-03-2007, 06:34 PM
from what Ive heard it looks like Brayton will move to the inside and Kelly will move to the Outside.

Raiderz4Life
05-03-2007, 09:04 PM
I would like to see Bing win the job. Also i think BMW will be our 3rd receiver and Cury our no. 2...baring injury of course

Stash
05-03-2007, 09:52 PM
Curry is a stud when healthy, he definitely should be the #2.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-03-2007, 10:24 PM
Quarterback - I'm calling Josh McCown to start the season, but once the Raiders are eliminated, say around week 9 or so, Russell will take over.

Runningback - I have no idea how his MCL is doing, but LaMont Jordan should be the guy to start the season.

Fullback - Pretty much a no-brainer. Justin Griffith.

Wide Receiver - I think Jerry Porter has a lock on the #1 spot, and I don't see anyone beating out Ronald Curry for the #2 spot either. I think Williams and Higgins are the next in line.

Tight End - Less of a no-brainer, but I'd wager big money on Zach Miller.

Left Tackle - Seems to be a battle of Sims and Gallery. I'm going to say that Robert Gallery will win the spot.

Left Guard - Should be the most interesting battle in all of camp. McQuistan, Boothe, Husley, and possibly Grove all have realistic shots. In the end, I say that Brad Hulsey ends up the starter.

Center - Treu is still around, but this appears to be between Grove and Newberry. If he's healthy, I think it's a slam dunk. Jeremy Newberry.

Right Guard - I think this one's pretty cut and dry. Newcomer Cooper Carlisle is an experienced cut blocker.

Right Tackle - Loser of the LT battle gets this as a consolation prize, so that means you Barry Sims.

Right Defensive End - This spot is likely going to see a lot of rotation. Both Moses and Brayton figure to see some time here, but I'd bet that Tommy Kelly is the official starter.

Nosetackle - I don't think there's any question after the contract we gave him. Terdell Sands.

Undertackle - No question here either. The still effective Warren Sapp.

Left Defensive End - Hmmm. This is a tough one. I'm gonna guess and say Derrick Burgess.

Weakside Linebacker - Robert Thomas and Sam Williams are going to get their shot with Howard moving to strongside, but I'm going to reach for the sky and say that Darnell Bing wins this spot.

Middle Linebacker - Shouldn't be any doubt in anyone's mind. Kirk Morrison.

Strongside Linebacker - I'm assuming the team will do the right thing and move Thomas Howard to his real position.

Right Cornerback - He goes by many names: Alphabet Soup, Scrabble, etc, and he might end being called one of the top 5 highest paid corners in the NFL. But for right now I'll just call him Nnamdi Asomugha.

Strong Safety - I kinda doubt Mr. Frampton is going to unseat the studly Michael Huff.

Free Safety - He catches undue amounts of flak, and probably deserves as much recognition as anyone for the secondaries success. The secondary call-maker Stuart Schweigert.

Left Cornerback - I have high hopes for this kid, and I think he'll make that leap to playmaker this year. Fabulous Fabian Washington is my pick.

Nickel Cornerback - This is kind of a weakspot, with many possible options. I'm going to be optimistic and say that Stanford Routt wins the job and legitimizes his high draft selection.

Special Teamers - Do we really need to think about this? Seabass the Raver Polack is going to kick, Lechler the Great is going to Punt, and Chris Carr the...um...fumbler is going to return kicks and punts.

portermvp84
05-03-2007, 10:35 PM
Is Courtney Anderson going to be our second TE or is Tony Stewart?

Paranoidmoonduck
05-03-2007, 10:46 PM
Is Courtney Anderson going to be our second TE or is Tony Stewart?

I'd bet money on Anderson. He's a good enough blocker to beat out Stewart for the spot.

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-04-2007, 12:13 AM
Im just curious how you think that Hulsey will beat out both Boothe and Grove.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-04-2007, 12:32 AM
Im just curious how you think that Hulsey will beat out both Boothe and Grove.

I'm not entirely sure Grove is going to get many snaps at guard, so that means Husley, a fairly classic ZBS guard has to beat out the terrible McQuistan and Boothe, who was only drafted because Cornell ran Shell's blocking system. Boothe is going to take a step back in this scheme, McQuistan might take a step forward, but the ZBS requires experienced and intelligent linemen, and Hulsey fits that description fairly well.

If Grove gets a fair shot then I think he could walk away with the job.

RaiderNation
05-04-2007, 12:37 AM
I'd bet money on Anderson. He's a good enough blocker to beat out Stewart for the spot.

cant catch a ball if his life depended on it though

Paranoidmoonduck
05-04-2007, 01:01 AM
cant catch a ball if his life depended on it though

Stewart ain't exactly that sure handed either. Anderson has the size to carry the blocking load that Miller can't.

raidersfanxxx
05-04-2007, 01:17 AM
i hope he can get it together cause he is a big boy. him and stewart will be battling all preseson.

nobodyinparticular
05-04-2007, 03:57 AM
I honestly don't see Corey Hulsey winning the battle at any position. In fact, I think he is going to be cut by the end of the preseason with all the depth the Raiders have across the line. I think Boothe and Carlisle will be our starting OGs with an ever so slight chance than Grove beats out Carlisle and Carlisle gets cut.

I like the Carlisle signing, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he turns into a Dwayne Rudd type of pickup--a guy picked up and assumed to be a starter but just doesn't cut it so he gets cut.

I also think that McQuistan is likely to be in the mix for RT--especially if Gallery is the one who wins the LT spot. Sims' cap number is over $5.5 million if I recall, so if the Raiders can somehow replace him I think they will.

Gallery - Boothe - Newberry - Carlisle/Grove - McQuistan

That would be my ideal lineup from left to right. I also think that the Raiders cut Treu and have Morris play 3rd string C and LS.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-04-2007, 04:17 AM
I really think that Boothe is going to regress with the new scheme. He was easily our best offensive lineman last year because he was the only one for which Shell's blocking system was natural. If most of our linemen were like fish out of water last year, that's what this year will be like for Boothe.

SubNoize
05-04-2007, 04:21 PM
Bing has been moved back to safety so take him out of any LB discussion and he is now # 29, will probably play like a 4th LB in running or rush situations.

slightlyaraiderfan
05-04-2007, 04:29 PM
Bing has been moved back to safety so take him out of any LB discussion and he is now # 29, will probably play like a 4th LB in running or rush situations.
Damn, I was kind of hoping he would play LB...giving us an extremely fast LB crew.

raidersfanxxx
05-04-2007, 05:37 PM
yeah, im having mixed feelings on him movein beack to SS.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-04-2007, 06:36 PM
With the news on Bing, this is what I envision.

Running downs
WLB - Howard
MLB - Morrison
SLB - Williams/Thomas
SS - Bing
FS - Huff

Passing downs
WLB - Howard
MLB - Morrison
SLB - Williams/Thomas
SS - Huff
FS - Schweigert

RaiderNation
05-04-2007, 07:15 PM
you guys think we will have top 5 defence this year? i say atleast top 10 cuz last year was very good.

raidersfanxxx
05-04-2007, 07:30 PM
yes, i think they will be very strong. the D was solid for 3 quarters but started to brake down in the 4th cause they were on the field so much. with the O improving the D will improve also.

Raiderz4Life
05-04-2007, 09:08 PM
The Bing move is bad...i dont like it. I think he'd make a real good 'Backer.
As for our line i think Boothe can be a good starter. Maybe at RT or if he worked on agility and cut some weight.

Stash
05-05-2007, 12:14 AM
Bing going back to safety isn't that bad. We needed the big hitter type that we lack there and our linebackers are already set at 2 spots and solid in the third. Bing will probably just step into Gibson's former role coming in for run support and goal line situations.

supermario86
05-08-2007, 02:35 PM
What about JLH as a return specialist?

Stash
05-08-2007, 09:59 PM
What about JLH as a return specialist?

Jennifer Love Hewitt plays football?

bernbabybern820
05-08-2007, 11:06 PM
Jennifer Love Hewitt plays football?

mmmmmmmm.

But seriously sometimes Carr deserved to be our offensive MVP. He always seems to get around 30 yards each kickoff. Punt returns on the other hand....

Xonraider
05-08-2007, 11:49 PM
mmmmmmmm.

But seriously sometimes Carr deserved to be our offensive MVP. He always seems to get around 30 yards each kickoff. Punt returns on the other hand....

He lost one fumble last season...

SubNoize
05-10-2007, 06:52 PM
OL-I don't see Boothe in the starting line-up this year at all... I think the line will end up having Sims and Gallery on the outside, Newberry at C and Carlisle on the right and Grove on the left. McQuistan should shift towards backing up Gallery and Boothe may eventually earn his way back in if he could supplant Grove or McQuistan inside on the left side. Henderson will back up Sims on the left and Green will fight with Slaughter to see who makes it out of camp to float on either side.

LB-I think Morrison and Howard are the obvious gimme's here, I would like to see Howard stay on the weak side as he did great here last year. I think Robert Thomas will grab the Strong side from Williams, he outplayed Williams here last year and is proving himself as a former 1st rounder. Irons should be cut or moved up front, he's too slow to play either side. I think at times we may implement a 4th LB in obvious running situations which will be one of our big hitting safety's either Bing or Frampton, a role that would suit both well.

DL-I think Sapp and Burgess have their spots on lock. As for opposite of Sapp, I think Sands will be here on running downs and I can see Brayton on the inside during passing downs, he's been taking snaps from here in mini-camp, could also be Kelly coming in. I think Huntley will earn his chance opposite of Burgess slightly edging Moses, who could also see a lot of time.

WR- I think Porter and Curry will win out as #1 and #2. if BMW can get into shape he may earn the #3, but Gabriel has done well in the slot for us before. Morant is the wild card here as he obviously posesses the skill but needs to work on holding the ball, he may be a darkhorse here, the losers will fill out #4 and #5 and Higgins will just fill a roster slot, maybe passing Carr as return specialist. Whitted is expandable here...

S-Huff SS Stu FS...This is Stu's last year to prove himself to be the man who broke R. Woodson's records in college, if not Hello FS Huff and Bing/Frampton at SS next year. Cooper is special teams all the way and Ward will be lucky to make the roster.

QB-McCown wins out, Walter is cast back to the bench and Russell makes millions from the sideline patiently waiting...

CB-Nam and Fabs locked... Bowie and Routt will fight to play nickel and Starks will either mentor or get the boot. Carr has potential here and may be a darkhorse to play in a nickel or dime role, the man did take 1 to the house from 100 yeards out last year... Hiram Eugene could make it, but he's a CB/S floater type.

TE- Miller, only guaranteed rookie starter... I believe Stewart makes it and Madsen as well, Wakefield will play T if he makes the roster. Anderson, Willams and Adkisson will all be clipped.

RB-Jordan will split carries with Rhodes, Rhodes will play more on passing 3rd downs. Bush goes on IR and Fargas will wear silver and black for his last year. Lee gets clipped or will fight to back up Griffith as a FB.

FB-Griffith... Bye Zack, thanks for everything... O'neal vs Lee, it's a toss up Lee is a better runner and O'neal is a better blocker, we'll see who wins out.

K-Jano, P Lechler...


sooo... here's my projected line-up, which may change after June cuts...


QB-McCown, Walter, Russell
RB-Jordan,Rhodes,Fargas, Bush
FB-Griffith, Lee
WR-Porter, Williams, Higgins
LT-Sims, Henderson,Slaughter
LG-Grove, Hulsey
C-Newberry, Morris
RG-Carlsisle, Boothe
RT-Gallery, Mcquistan
WR-Curry, Gabriel, Morant
LE-Burgess, Richardson
NT-Sands, Brayton
UT-Sapp, Kelly
RE-Huntley, Moses
WLB-Howard, Brown
MLB-Morrison, Ekejiuba (ST)
SLB-Thomas, Williams

CB-Asomugha, Routt, Starks
CB-Washington, Carr, Bowie
SS- Huff, Frampton, Bing
FS-Stu, Cooper (ST)

KR-Carr
PR-Carr
K-Janokowski
P-Lechler

"I'M IN!"....

raiderfan_89
05-10-2007, 07:35 PM
QB-Josh McCown-Jarmarcus Russel
RB-Lamont Jordan-Dominic Rhodes-Justin Fargas
FB-Justin Griffith
WR-Jerry Porter
WR-Ronald Curry
WR-Doug Gabriel
WR-Mike Williams
TE-Zach Miller
OT-Barry Sims-Mario Henderson
OG-Jake Grove-Kevin Boothe
C-Jeremy Newberry
OG-Chris Carlisle-Pat McQuistan
OT-Robert Gallery
DE-Quentin Moses
DT-Warren Sapp
DT-Terdell Sands
DE-Derrick Burgess
WLB-Sam Williams
MLB-Kirk Morrison
SLB-Thomas Howard
CB-Fabian Washington
CB-Namdi Asomugha
CB-Stanford Routt
CB-Chris Johnson
FS-SS
SS-Michael Huff

K-Seabass
P-Lechler

KR-Chris Carr/Carlos Francis
PR-Chris Carr/Carlos Francis

Punt Coverages-Jarrod Cooper/Eric Frampton