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Splat
05-05-2007, 08:37 AM
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10164717

"In Detroit, free-agent defensive tackle Cory Redding (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396068), the Lions' franchise player, does not intend to show up to any drills or the team's training complex until he has a new long-term contract."

"An opposite situation is unfolding in New Orleans, where the Saints signed their franchise defensive end Charles Grant (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302196) to a seven-year contract worth up to $63 million. Grant is now happy; New Orleans' other defensive end, Pro Bowl selection Will Smith (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/493067), is not."

Notredameleo
05-05-2007, 08:51 AM
Wonder what the Lions could get for Redding!

Addict
05-05-2007, 08:54 AM
I understand why Will Smith isn't happy... He's scheduled to make squat this year, while the guy on the opposite side of the field makes a fortune doing the same job... I'd be pissed off too.

Redding will get a contract, Lions NEED that line to be as strong as it can possibly be... especially since we have little else good on defense.

Draft King
05-05-2007, 09:03 AM
Grady Jackson for the Falcons is also unhappy right now and unless given a new contract, which he won't be, he refuses to play and has also sued the Falcons.

Gravedigger42
05-05-2007, 09:29 AM
Grady has a history of being po'd with his contracts. Wonder why he even signs em to begin with. He had a couple of productive years in GB but then the Pack let him walk to Atlanta because throughout the last year of deal he claimed he wasn't happy. This guy definetley overrates himself.

JCshutEmDown
05-05-2007, 09:36 AM
I understand why Will Smith isn't happy... He's scheduled to make squat this year, while the guy on the opposite side of the field makes a fortune doing the same job... I'd be pissed off too.


So why did he sign the contract?

Addict
05-05-2007, 10:04 AM
So why did he sign the contract?

I believe it's still his rookie contract...

Flyboy
05-05-2007, 10:05 AM
Neither Smith nor his agent has said anything public about his contract situation and I fully expect him to play out the rest of his rookie contract until it's time to re-up him in '10. Period.

JCshutEmDown
05-05-2007, 10:18 AM
I believe it's still his rookie contract...

That's his fault for signing a 6 year rookie contract.

Auron
05-05-2007, 10:21 AM
I think Will Smith needs to be patient and play out his rookie contract like Grant did, and he will be rewarded for his play like Grant was.

As of now he hasn't said anything public and I believe this is just an attempt to get some sort of early contract dialogue started with Loomis.

BX
05-05-2007, 10:58 AM
Greg Ellis in Dallas is once again unhappy with his situation. The drafting of Anthony Spencer puts his starting job in jeopardy for the second year in a row.

bearsfan_51
05-05-2007, 11:27 AM
I've never understood the concern amongst the media or the front office if guys are happy.

Who gives a ****?

You can show up, get paid, do a good job, and make millions of dollars.

Or you can not show up, make nothing, and waste away the better part of your career.

Franchises need to start making a stand against players that don't understand how contracts and bargaining agreements work. Too often teams gets pushed into making a trade to save face and get some sort of value for a guy they don't feel they can work things out with. I'm sick of it, and if the Bears get absolutely nothing and Briggs doesn't show up I'm ok with that too, because it sends the message to every guy in the lockeroom that you honor your contract or you don't get paid. Stuff like the Packers trading Javon Walker simply cause he wants a quicker payday needs to stop.

bearsfan_51
05-05-2007, 11:29 AM
Greg Ellis in Dallas is once again unhappy with his situation. The drafting of Anthony Spencer puts his starting job in jeopardy for the second year in a row.
Maybe he should shut up and compete. What in the world makes a guy like Greg Ellis think anyone cares what he has to say? You're a marginal player that probably should have a young guy pushing him.

princefielder28
05-05-2007, 11:50 AM
Wonder what the Lions could get for Redding!

The Lions should deal him to the Skins in a deal that involves Shawn Springs

iowatreat54
05-05-2007, 12:18 PM
I've never understood the concern amongst the media or the front office if guys are happy.

Who gives a ****?

You can show up, get paid, do a good job, and make millions of dollars.

Or you can not show up, make nothing, and waste away the better part of your career.

Franchises need to start making a stand against players that don't understand how contracts and bargaining agreements work. Too often teams gets pushed into making a trade to save face and get some sort of value for a guy they don't feel they can work things out with. I'm sick of it, and if the Bears get absolutely nothing and Briggs doesn't show up I'm ok with that too, because it sends the message to every guy in the lockeroom that you honor your contract or you don't get paid. Stuff like the Packers trading Javon Walker simply cause he wants a quicker payday needs to stop.

++++rep...I think that when teams just unload players for that reason is why there's so many players switching teams pretty much every year...it would be great if sports went back to the way they used to be when 90% of players stayed on a team for atleast like 7-8 years...instead now they switch teams ever 3 years so they can make an extra $1.5 million a year...I hope teams stop giving into players like that and make stands like the Bears are doing with Briggs to let the rest of the team know that if you want a raise or a new contract you earn it on the field not by sitting out like a b*tch

tEk
05-05-2007, 12:37 PM
so at what point were they camping?

anyways, as bf51 put it. its like having a child and if they don't follow your rules you don't put them up for adoption(at least i would hope not). you bring out the whip(keep them in their contract if they play or not) although i believe in the contract it states they have to play. correct me if im wrong about the contract thing, or is it different for each team. holding out should be a breach of contract then and they could force them to play (maybe not whole-heartedly or with any effort but they will play)

yourfavestoner
05-05-2007, 12:52 PM
so at what point were they camping?

anyways, as bf51 put it. its like having a child and if they don't follow your rules you don't put them up for adoption(at least i would hope not). you bring out the whip(keep them in their contract if they play or not) although i believe in the contract it states they have to play. correct me if im wrong about the contract thing, or is it different for each team. holding out should be a breach of contract then and they could force them to play (maybe not whole-heartedly or with any effort but they will play)

Holding out is a breach of contract, and they don't get paid their weekly salaries or bonuses when they're holding out.

diabsoule
05-05-2007, 02:36 PM
Will Smith will play out his rookie contract. I highly doubt he holds out or does anything that puts himself before the team. It just does not sound like anything he would do. If you look at Grant's contract, it is backloaded, which means he will probably be traded or released in a few years. Smith's contract is up in 2 years and he will more than likely receive a big salary. I'm not worried at all.

And I agree with bf51. As a fan I am tired of hearing how players, who make more in a season than I will make in a lifetime are insisting on higher pay and will threaten to hold out if they do not receive it. In my opinion players are not worth nearly as much as they get paid, but since that is the nature of the sport then let them compete and show the franchise that they deserve the money that they think they should make before causing a media frenzy by threatening to hold out.

awfullyquiet
05-05-2007, 02:42 PM
I've never understood the concern amongst the media or the front office if guys are happy.

Who gives a ****?

You can show up, get paid, do a good job, and make millions of dollars.

Or you can not show up, make nothing, and waste away the better part of your career.


it's possible that maybe these kids should get an effing education so they don't have to worry about effing football all the time as the only source of income they're ever going to get in their life.

okay. so i want to be super rich. great. play football and don't be such a god d*** cu*t about it. geez, these men are whinier than me. blah blah blah, i don't get paid enough, blah blah blah. so your career is on average 4 years. with minimum salary, you'll still end up making like a million dollar in four years. with proper investment, and a steady day job afterwards, you'll live life in the fast line forever. besides, all the whiners are still making shitloads of money. briggs was like a mill a year or something like that... with seven million, with proper investing, you shouldn't ever have to worry about SH*T. for serious.

nfl clubs should offer lessons in investing.

but, now i sound like a bears FO fangirl. they gave TJ what he wanted because it was benificial to them. and he was a whiner. but. they really probably have the biggest coglioni with the briggs situation. most teams woulda taken the trade to the skins just to save face. but i think jerry angelo has re-earned the respect of bears fan everywhere.

Shiver
05-05-2007, 02:44 PM
Will Smith is much better than Charles Grant, so I too would be mad if I were him.

Flyboy
05-05-2007, 03:12 PM
Will Smith is much better than Charles Grant, so I too would be mad if I were him.

Pfft. He hasn't said anything yet and Smith is acting as if he's not going to receive his dough which he clearly is.

PACKmanN
05-05-2007, 03:33 PM
Grady Jackson for the Falcons is also unhappy right now and unless given a new contract, which he won't be, he refuses to play and has also sued the Falcons.

same old Grady.

P-L
05-05-2007, 06:04 PM
I don't think the Lions have any intention of signing Redding long-term, but that's just me. I think the reason they drafted Ikaika Alma-Francis was to be the future next to Shaun Rogers, who is now on board with Marinelli's plans. I think they plan to keep Redding this year as a stop gap and develop Alma Francis. Then, they let Redding walk after this year. This is just me speculating, but I think it is a possibility.

remix 6
05-05-2007, 06:34 PM
Asante Samuel is also unhappy. Hes not deserving of a Clements contract really..not many CBs are(not even Nate). His tattoo says "Get Paid"..my only concern with giving him so much is that he starts swimming in the money and not working to his potential

portermvp84
05-05-2007, 07:55 PM
Asante Samule deserves the dough he led the league in pics. And he has also shown that he is one of the best CBs in the league.

Flyboy
05-05-2007, 08:51 PM
Asante Samule deserves the dough he led the league in pics. And he has also shown that he is one of the best CBs in the league.

Not to mention he's pretty damn young as well.

bearsfan_51
05-05-2007, 08:56 PM
It's not even a matter of deserving or not deserving the money, it's a matter of effectively convincing a franchise to give it to you. These players act like they are entitled to the money. That's why you have a union that negotiates. That's why you have an agent that negotiates. That's why you have contracts, and bonuses, and so forth.

But it's not their fault, it's the franchises fault. They need to stop caving everytime a player cries about getting more money. That should automatically disqualify the player for any negotiations for the year. You go public, you get nothing. You threaten to hold out, you get nothing. As I stated before, franchises are so concerned about public backlash by some season ticket holder that says:

"We let this guy walk away when we could have gotten a 3rd round draft choice!?!?"

When the point is that for every player you allow to go public and get their way, you're letting 5-10 more guys do the same thing. I was extremely dissapointed that the Pats traded Branch. Same with the Eagles cutting T.O. although in that case I understood. These are supposed to be the franchises that stood up and didn't let players push them around. I will be equally dissapointed if the Bears cave in with Briggs, whether he deserves a new contract or not isn't even the point. Don't like the franchise tag? Take it up with your union, but don't expect any sympathy from me.

scottyboy
05-05-2007, 09:47 PM
please, like everyone here is happy with there job?? and making a couple million less.

shut up and play. your in the NFL, almost every kids dream. be happy your there and "only" making a couple hundred thousand or "only" a couple mil.