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DeathbyStat
07-18-2007, 10:14 AM
15 recievers I would take over Hines Ward

1. Chad Johnson
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Reggie Wayne
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Anquan Bolden
6. Roy Williams
7. Steve Smith
8. Tory Holt
9. Andre Johnson
10. Javon Walker
11. Issac Bruce
12. Marques Colston
13. Donald Driver
14. TJ Houshmanzadah
15. Plaxico Burress

And there are plentty of others I could have put there. These are just the first 15 that came to my head.


I agree except for Issac Bruce, Donald Driver and Plaxico Burress

Splat
07-18-2007, 11:12 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors

The rumors have been that the Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/pit/)' Troy Polamalu (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6352/) wanted to return to the West Coast to be near his family when his contract expired after this season.

However, sources close to the negotiations believe Polamulu will sign a new deal around the opening of training camp Monday.

skarocksoi
07-18-2007, 11:16 AM
I like Ward, just because he plays so tough, but I'm going to have to agree with everyone else around here. He is not nearly as good as he used to be and he's only going to regress from this point on. He's getting up there in years and reached his peak a few years ago and is now on the downward slide.

I still think he could be a competitive reciever for the remainder of his contract and maybe a year or two after, but he does have an ego and would want to be paid a good deal of money. I don't see us giving him a crazy contract when we have a lot of young up and coming guys behind him and he could end up being the number 2 or even 3 reciever.

If he wants tons of money, he's not going to get it and will be gone after his contract runs up. If he realizes he's older and decides he wants to retire a Steeler, he might resign himself to a Troy Brown sort of role and take the paycut.

mikehop05
07-18-2007, 11:44 AM
I like Ward, just because he plays so tough, but I'm going to have to agree with everyone else around here. He is not nearly as good as he used to be and he's only going to regress from this point on. He's getting up there in years and reached his peak a few years ago and is now on the downward slide.

I still think he could be a competitive reciever for the remainder of his contract and maybe a year or two after, but he does have an ego and would want to be paid a good deal of money. I don't see us giving him a crazy contract when we have a lot of young up and coming guys behind him and he could end up being the number 2 or even 3 reciever.

If he wants tons of money, he's not going to get it and will be gone after his contract runs up. If he realizes he's older and decides he wants to retire a Steeler, he might resign himself to a Troy Brown sort of role and take the paycut.

i think if ward pulls a troy brown and is okay with not taking a great amount of money then he can play here pretty much as long as he wants as we can always use a player of his stature and he will be able to retire as a steeler

Man_Of_Steel
07-18-2007, 11:46 AM
15 recievers I would take over Hines Ward

1. Chad Johnson
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Reggie Wayne
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Anquan Bolden
6. Roy Williams
7. Steve Smith
8. Tory Holt
9. Andre Johnson
10. Javon Walker
11. Issac Bruce
12. Marques Colston
13. Donald Driver
14. TJ Houshmanzadah
15. Plaxico Burress

And there are plentty of others I could have put there. These are just the first 15 that came to my head.

Take Bruce, Driver, Housh and Burress out. How you have Bruce in the top 15 is ludacris when you dont have Owens, Moss, Evans, Chambers.

Another thing I find disturbing is that you think Ward is slow. Ward is anything but slow. I really dont feel I need to continue on his speed because its common knowledge. He may be slowing because of age but he is by no means slow. Look at Rod Smith and what he is doing. That can happen in Pitt. Three years or so from now when Holmes has matured he can be number one like Walker and Ward will slide to number 2 like Smith. Or heck, make him a slot reciever, he would be one of the best slot wr in the league.

Why you think he will demand tons of money holds no water. When the time comes he will look at his age/production and the Steelers attitude. Pitt has no prob cutting people if they want unreasonable contracts. Ward will see this and sign a 3 year deal in which the Steelers will load with incentives to thank Ward for his contributions. Ward knows that Randle El was in the upswing of his career when he got the big money, the best thing for him to do is remain a Steeler and solidify his legacy.

Hines
07-18-2007, 12:15 PM
15 recievers I would take over Hines Ward

1. Chad Johnson
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Reggie Wayne
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Anquan Bolden
6. Roy Williams
7. Steve Smith
8. Tory Holt
9. Andre Johnson
10. Javon Walker
11. Issac Bruce
12. Marques Colston
13. Donald Driver
14. TJ Houshmanzadah
15. Plaxico Burress

And there are plentty of others I could have put there. These are just the first 15 that came to my head.

dude man what do you have against hines

Splat
07-18-2007, 12:19 PM
15 recievers I would take over Hines Ward

1. Chad Johnson
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Reggie Wayne
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Anquan Bolden
6. Roy Williams
7. Steve Smith
8. Tory Holt
9. Andre Johnson
10. Javon Walker
11. Issac Bruce
12. Marques Colston
13. Donald Driver
14. TJ Houshmanzadah
15. Plaxico Burress

And there are plentty of others I could have put there. These are just the first 15 that came to my head.

I agree with the top ten after that it is a toss up Bruce is old was Colston a one year wonder Driver is known to get hurt can TJ play at a high level with out #85 can any one keep Burress happy?

Hines
07-18-2007, 12:22 PM
I agree with the top ten after that it is a toss up Bruce is old was Colston a one year wonder Driver is known to get hurt can TJ play at a high level with out #85 can any one keep Burress happy?

it would be a toss up with javon walker for me...

Splat
07-18-2007, 12:27 PM
it would be a toss up with javon walker for me...

As a fan of the Chiefs I watched a good amount of Denver games to see how they were doing Javon Walker played lights out his stats would have been better if he had not have had Plummer the first half of the season. If Hines was a few years younger I would take him do to his run blocking but as of now I would go with JW.

Man_Of_Steel
07-18-2007, 12:32 PM
Im so relieved that almost everyone here is in the right state of mind on this issue.

brat316
07-18-2007, 01:25 PM
Bowie is a nice WR, he could be that Hinze Ward type

nbarnett56
07-18-2007, 01:28 PM
I agree with the top ten after that it is a toss up Bruce is old was Colston a one year wonder Driver is known to get hurt can TJ play at a high level with out #85 can any one keep Burress happy?

Dirver is known to get hurt? Every player gets dinged up during the course of a season but this guy has only missed 1 game and not started 6 times since becoming a full time starter.

Splat
07-18-2007, 01:52 PM
Dirver is known to get hurt? Every player gets dinged up during the course of a season but this guy has only missed 1 game and not started 6 times since becoming a full time starter.

My bad I was thinking he had missed more time then that.

NFLBOY
07-18-2007, 02:39 PM
I'd still take Hines. The guy is the best all around wideout, and if we get back to passing more, he will put up bigger stats. It's not like we have any better wr's on the team. I don't think we should give him as much money as the top guys because of hios age, but we should resign him for a decent amount. The guy always gives 110% and that's more than I can say about most of the guys on this list.

DeathbyStat
07-18-2007, 03:07 PM
15 recievers I would take over Hines Ward

1. Chad Johnson
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Reggie Wayne
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Anquan Bolden
6. Roy Williams
7. Steve Smith
8. Tory Holt
9. Andre Johnson
10. Javon Walker
11. Issac Bruce
12. Marques Colston
13. Donald Driver
14. TJ Houshmanzadah
15. Plaxico Burress

And there are plentty of others I could have put there. These are just the first 15 that came to my head.

Another thing is....we don't know how Reggie Wayne and Housmanzadah would fair if they had to be number one wide outs

Smooth Criminal
07-18-2007, 03:41 PM
Ward is not the best all aroudn reciever in any way. A few years ago I would have said top 5 but now he is alot slower and his hands have gotten worse as well.

Smooth Criminal
07-18-2007, 03:43 PM
I'd still take Hines. The guy is the best all around wideout, and if we get back to passing more, he will put up bigger stats. It's not like we have any better wr's on the team. I don't think we should give him as much money as the top guys because of hios age, but we should resign him for a decent amount. The guy always gives 110% and that's more than I can say about most of the guys on this list.

Two years from now we will have guys better than him. I think Holmes will be far and away better than Ward in 2 years time.

skarocksoi
07-18-2007, 04:13 PM
When you talk speed its a comparative thing. Hines might not be all that slow, but compared to most top cornerbacks he certainly is much slower. He uses his smarts and knowledge of the game to make big plays, not speed. Just think of the TD he scored against DeAngelo Hall last season. Hall is incredibly fast, but doesn't have the knowledge that Ward has, and it got him beat. I think Ward would be one hell of a slot reciever, as if you have two other faster recievers to stretch the defense, he could find the hole in the D and he definitely has the hands to make the catch.

All that being said, the arguement is what to do with him when his contract runs out, which is a while away. By that time, his physical ability is going to diminish from where it is now, and the organization has to decide if they want to pay him lots of money to keep him.

NFLBOY
07-18-2007, 08:42 PM
Ward is not the best all aroudn reciever in any way. A few years ago I would have said top 5 but now he is alot slower and his hands have gotten worse as well. When it comes to blocking and running routes along with catching the ball, he is still the best. He may be slower but his hands are still very good.

NFLBOY
07-18-2007, 08:44 PM
Two years from now we will have guys better than him. I think Holmes will be far and away better than Ward in 2 years time.
Kind of a no brainer, considering Holmes can only get better and Ward is nearing the end of his career. I wouldn't say far and away though, Holmes has alot of learning to do.

NFLBOY
07-18-2007, 08:47 PM
When you talk speed its a comparative thing. Hines might not be all that slow, but compared to most top cornerbacks he certainly is much slower. He uses his smarts and knowledge of the game to make big plays, not speed. Just think of the TD he scored against DeAngelo Hall last season. Hall is incredibly fast, but doesn't have the knowledge that Ward has, and it got him beat. I think Ward would be one hell of a slot reciever, as if you have two other faster recievers to stretch the defense, he could find the hole in the D and he definitely has the hands to make the catch.

All that being said, the arguement is what to do with him when his contract runs out, which is a while away. By that time, his physical ability is going to diminish from where it is now, and the organization has to decide if they want to pay him lots of money to keep him.
Ward also might decide he has had enough and might want to retire. Could be alot of things playing out with our new head coach. I have a feeling we will be losing alot of veterans in the next few years. Could be good, could be bad. This season will tell alot about our new coach and team and the direction we will be going. We have tons of talent from the last few years and it will be interesting if Tomlin uses it in the right way, or if we start on a down swing for awhile.

Smooth Criminal
07-18-2007, 09:04 PM
When it comes to blocking and running routes along with catching the ball, he is still the best. He may be slower but his hands are still very good.

Before I respond let me get a clarification that you are actually telling me you think Ward is the best reciever in the game?

Mr. Stiller
07-18-2007, 09:20 PM
Woodley Signed, Polamalu's is nearly done and Timmons should be done before or during Monday.

Smooth Criminal
07-18-2007, 09:23 PM
I hope Polamalu is a 6 or 7 year deal. I don't want to have to do this again in 5 years.

Mr. Stiller
07-18-2007, 09:24 PM
Before I respond let me get a clarification that you are actually telling me you think Ward is the best reciever in the game?

Here's what I think.

I think Wards next contract will be cheap, he won't get top dollar anywhere. I think he takes the pay-cut after getting the big chunk of change from the last contract.

He'll sign on, and he'll be content being that reliable #2/#3.

I want to draft Derek Kinder next offseason. I think Hines stays at #2, bringing up Kinder for a year or 2.. Kinder slides to #2, Holmes at #1 and Ward at #3.

I'm sorry you don't like Ward. I don't know how I missed him being a ***** or whiny. However he is still the most reliable WR we have and he's still our best blocker.

I find it hard to believe the hardest working WR I've ever seen (Ward) isn't going to play nearly as long as Rod Smith or Keenan McCardell, or even Jimmy Smith. I figure him to play to atleast 35-36. If not longer, just because he's that type of guy. I think he'll be reasonable. (Hell Wilson got 2.5M a year to be a #3 right?) and this guy has been one of the best in the biz and he's slowing, sure, but it's not like he's not a solid #1.

Mr. Stiller
07-18-2007, 09:24 PM
I hope Polamalu is a 6 or 7 year deal. I don't want to have to do this again in 5 years.

I think it's supposed to be a 5 or 6 year extension... So technically a 6 or 7 year deal.

Hines
07-19-2007, 12:58 AM
this makes me tingly inside
=)

enjoy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0-Z3KTduo

skarocksoi
07-19-2007, 09:46 AM
Anthony Smith is going to be a star. After watching that hit he layed out on that reciever in that clip, I'm just excited to see him play next season. I hope he beats out Clark to win the starting slot in training camp.

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 10:01 AM
this makes me tingly inside
=)

enjoy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0-Z3KTduo

LL Cool J- Mama Said Knock You Out. Nice vid, love that Santonio play. Congrats on the bright square, your leading all Steelers fans right now.

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 10:02 AM
Anthony Smith is going to be a star. After watching that hit he layed out on that reciever in that clip, I'm just excited to see him play next season. I hope he beats out Clark to win the starting slot in training camp.

I want him to play as well, even though Clark played well last year.

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 11:23 AM
Article on Faneca.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2941128

mikehop05
07-19-2007, 12:24 PM
oooo man this gets me so psyched for the season now

Hines
07-19-2007, 12:54 PM
Anthony Smith is going to be a star. After watching that hit he layed out on that reciever in that clip, I'm just excited to see him play next season. I hope he beats out Clark to win the starting slot in training camp.

in all honesty i want smith to start,but i wouldnt be upset to see clark start the season out or whatever..clarks a player

skarocksoi
07-19-2007, 03:13 PM
Clark did do a good job, and deserves some playing time as well, but I think he's just an average safety. Maybe you could switch things up between Smith, Clark, and Polamalu depending on the situation. I dont know who's better in coverage or a better tackler between the two (Smith and Clark), but I think training camp will show us a lot.

Mr. Stiller
07-19-2007, 03:59 PM
From what I've been reading.. Tomlin is going to use a lot of situational sets... IE .. Timmons playing ROLB, Woodley passrushing.. Keisel playing OLB.

I think Smith and Carter will be getting a fair share of time. I think Smith/Polamalu Start..

Though I think Smith would be a killer SS.

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 04:01 PM
From what I've been reading.. Tomlin is going to use a lot of situational sets... IE .. Timmons playing ROLB, Woodley passrushing.. Keisel playing OLB.

I think Smith and Carter will be getting a fair share of time. I think Smith/Polamalu Start..

Though I think Smith would be a killer SS.

Anything thing else you "think", haha.

Mr. Stiller
07-19-2007, 04:29 PM
I often "Think" about this:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/PittFan86/th_96b95c32.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/PittFan86/?action=view&current=96b95c32.flv)

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 05:04 PM
Palmer getting hit by a steeler is a delicate issue on these boards.

Smooth Criminal
07-19-2007, 06:29 PM
Yah but we got a 15 yard penalty for that one. Well worth it in my mind.

Mr. Stiller
07-19-2007, 06:40 PM
Did anyone actually click on it? It's a video.

Secondly, anyone planning on going to Training camp? Let me know I'd like to schedule a day and meet everyone out there.

Hines
07-19-2007, 06:43 PM
Did anyone actually click on it? It's a video.

Secondly, anyone planning on going to Training camp? Let me know I'd like to schedule a day and meet everyone out there.

i would go if i didnt live on the other side of america

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 06:50 PM
Did anyone actually click on it? It's a video.

Secondly, anyone planning on going to Training camp? Let me know I'd like to schedule a day and meet everyone out there.

Harison showed up quite a bit in that vid.

I wont be attending this year, hopefully and more than likley next year.

mikehop05
07-19-2007, 08:01 PM
i might be headin over the weekend of the 27th

brat316
07-19-2007, 09:53 PM
Harrison was on there quite a bit nice playmaker, i wonder if he is going to get any time now that Woodely and TImmons took his position

Smooth Criminal
07-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Harrison would likely start the season. Everyone has been saying that Timmons will take time and I don't think Woodley will be ready to start the season either with his position change and all.

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 10:11 PM
I think alot of rotating will be happening but I expect Timmons to lock down a starting position.

Mr. Stiller
07-19-2007, 10:12 PM
Harrison would likely start the season. Everyone has been saying that Timmons will take time and I don't think Woodley will be ready to start the season either with his position change and all.

Woodley and Timmons will be used as Special Teams players and Rush Specialists. Though Timmons might be used in coverage a good bit.

Mr. Stiller
07-19-2007, 10:13 PM
I think alot of rotating will be happening but I expect Timmons to lock down a starting position.

I don't see It. Kendrell Bell is the only rookie to start at LB in sour scheme.. Heck Troy didn't even start his rookie season. I think Woodley would lock down SOLB before Timmons takes WILB/WOLB.

brat316
07-19-2007, 10:16 PM
Troy did play Nickel back i might be wrong during his rookie year.

If that happen should we move Harrison to inside

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 10:21 PM
I don't see It. Kendrell Bell is the only rookie to start at LB in sour scheme.. Heck Troy didn't even start his rookie season. I think Woodley would lock down SOLB before Timmons takes WILB/WOLB.

I think hes in a unique situation though. Harrison isnt a every down linebacker and Timmons will only get better every snap.

Mr. Stiller
07-19-2007, 10:41 PM
I think hes in a unique situation though. Harrison isnt a every down linebacker and Timmons will only get better every snap.

I don't know about that.

Every game Harrison was the starter he led in nearly every statistical category... Tackles, Sacks and on 4/5 occasions.. INT's and Fumbles Forced.

Starting from when Joey Porter was Sent off Pre-Game against the browns a few years ago.

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 10:48 PM
I don't know about that.

Every game Harrison was the starter he led in nearly every statistical category... Tackles, Sacks and on 4/5 occasions.. INT's and Fumbles Forced.

Starting from when Joey Porter was Sent off Pre-Game against the browns a few years ago.

Good point and I believe those statistics, however dont you feel that when Harriosn was in the game the tailored to him, he always played perimeter and he dosent support the middlebackers that great. sure he can put a highlight reel together but I see him as a bit of a liablity. I would love to see him used sparingly, alot more than last year.

Mr. Stiller
07-19-2007, 11:34 PM
Good point and I believe those statistics, however dont you feel that when Harriosn was in the game the tailored to him, he always played perimeter and he dosent support the middlebackers that great. sure he can put a highlight reel together but I see him as a bit of a liablity. I would love to see him used sparingly, alot more than last year.

I remember thinking when I saw that ESPN Magazine "Most Feared Player in the NFL"..

I was thinking, close, but Harrison is a lot more mean and scarier.

I'm not saying he's going to be amazing by any means, but I think he'll do a great job filling in for Porter until someone can take over. Like I said too, they'll be freshening and using more "Exotic" packages. Where last year, Porter/Haggans were in nearly every play.. this year, there will be a lot less tired legs.

Man_Of_Steel
07-19-2007, 11:36 PM
Im really looking forward to farrior returning to dominance this year.

PittPete
07-20-2007, 09:53 AM
In evaluating linebackers, two things you look for are consistency and impact plays. Farrier for example is very consistent, and outside of our little circle, is not a well known lb. I would take him any day over most middle lbs now in the nfl. Harrison is certainly an impact player and we are hoping with enough playing time will develop more consistency. remember Farrier struggled before he reached his current high level of play. Kendrell Bell certainly was an impact lb but very inconsistent, as the chiefs have found out. I cant see Timmons even carrying Harrison's jockstrap this year. Maybe he will develop and be an all-pro but give him time. This is James' year, and Haggans/Woodley on the other side is cause for optimism.

Man_Of_Steel
07-20-2007, 09:58 AM
In evaluating linebackers, two things you look for are consistency and impact plays. Farrier for example is very consistent, and outside of our little circle, is not a well known lb. I would take him any day over most middle lbs now in the nfl. Harrison is certainly an impact player and we are hoping with enough playing time will develop more consistency. remember Farrier struggled before he reached his current high level of play. Kendrell Bell certainly was an impact lb but very inconsistent, as the chiefs have found out. I cant see Timmons even carrying Harrison's jockstrap this year. Maybe he will develop and be an all-pro but give him time. This is James' year, and Haggans/Woodley on the other side is cause for optimism.

Kendrell Bell was never incosistant when he was on the Steelers. He was just hurt alot. Remember back to the Pitt vs Cle playoff game 4 or so years back? He played hurt and made a huge impact.

Hines
07-20-2007, 10:00 AM
who likes my new sig????

Man_Of_Steel
07-20-2007, 10:03 AM
who likes my new sig????

Very nice, your on ther video trend.

DeathbyStat
07-20-2007, 10:04 AM
Yah but we got a 15 yard penalty for that one. Well worth it in my mind.


It was well worth it

Hines
07-20-2007, 10:05 AM
Very nice, your on ther video trend.

yezzir...i shoulda got a joey sig with just the part of him beatin the crap outta william green haha

DeathbyStat
07-20-2007, 10:05 AM
Did anyone actually click on it? It's a video.

Secondly, anyone planning on going to Training camp? Let me know I'd like to schedule a day and meet everyone out there.

I'll be there

Hines
07-20-2007, 10:12 AM
im so excited to see bryan randall steal bsp spot this year as the number 3 qb...also i believe carey davis will make a real strong run this year for kuhns backup fb spot...camp is gonna be so fun following..hopefully everyday they put updates on kdka video page soi can watch liek they did last tc

Smooth Criminal
07-20-2007, 10:22 AM
I'm looking forward to Harrison getting a shot at starting. i really think he will have a big season for us.

I like the plan to rotate linebackers alot. We rotated D-line alot last year and that seemed the keep them fresh and it should help our linebackers aswell. Esspecially since the guys that will be rotating in are as talented as Timmons and Woodley.

Hines
07-20-2007, 10:57 AM
this is from rotoworld..i have twoo pieces so enjoy


The Steelers may work Willie Colon at a different position if he doesn't win the starting right tackle job over Max Starks.

"Willie's a guy we think is capable of competing in the top five," coach Mike Tomlin said. The Steelers open camp days before any other team on Monday.




and


Steelers G Alan Faneca says he doesn't want to be the team's co-captain anymore.

Way to go out. Faneca says he won't cause a problem this year, but his action and talk hardly support his case.

Man_Of_Steel
07-20-2007, 10:59 AM
Interesting. I think the new captains should be...

Ben Roethlisberger
James Farrior
Troy Polamalu

Hines
07-20-2007, 11:01 AM
for offence imo it should either be willie or hines with ben having serius concideration

for the d i think it should be farrior

for st i think it should be chidi if he makes the team

Man_Of_Steel
07-20-2007, 11:49 AM
for offence imo it should either be willie or hines with ben having serius concideration

for the d i think it should be farrior

for st i think it should be chidi if he makes the team

as much as I love Willie I dont think he's a captain.

Hines
07-20-2007, 01:43 PM
is there any place where i can order a anthony smith jersey

i looked on ebay and i dindt liek the custom made jerseys

Smooth Criminal
07-20-2007, 03:17 PM
Ward and Farrior should be captains. They are both guys that have been on the team for a while and are good leaders.

Hines
07-21-2007, 11:19 AM
"If i could start my life all over again,i would be a football player and you better be damn sure that ill be a Pittsburgh Steeler."-Jack Lambert

Mr. Stiller
07-21-2007, 11:41 AM
is there any place where i can order a anthony smith jersey

i looked on ebay and i dindt liek the custom made jerseys

www.nflshop.com

I got a White An Smith Jersey and Black Santonio Holmes Jersey. They're Pimp.

I'm waiting to see if Okobi gets cut... If he does Woodley is supposed to go to #56.. I don't want to have the only #55 Woodley Jersey.

I'll probably grab a Woodley, Timmons and Possibly Fowler Jersey.

Hines
07-21-2007, 11:42 AM
www.nflshop.com

I got a White An Smith Jersey and Black Santonio Holmes Jersey. They're Pimp.

I'm waiting to see if Okobi gets cut... If he does Woodley is supposed to go to #56.. I don't want to have the only #55 Woodley Jersey.

I'll probably grab a Woodley, Timmons and Possibly Fowler Jersey.


thanks man i was hoping that somebody would help me out

brat316
07-21-2007, 03:37 PM
Are your getting the stiched on jersey or the 65 dollar ones. Either way that is a **** load of money to spend on those.

Hines
07-21-2007, 04:50 PM
steelers sign ***

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07202/803493-66.stm

Hines
07-21-2007, 04:55 PM
also here is some good news according to rotoworld


Steelers PR Willie Reid has fully recovered from a foot injury.

The 2006 third-round pick will return to practice at the start of training camp after missing spring work. Reid shouldn't face competition for his job.

Mr. Stiller
07-22-2007, 07:54 PM
Every Rookie signed.

Troy is supposed to be signed by 4pm tomorrow. This should be an interesting training camp.

brat316
07-22-2007, 10:20 PM
Yeah all the rookies in when do start camp with everyone 24 or 23 vets come 22nd

Man_Of_Steel
07-23-2007, 12:14 PM
NFL.com article on the Steelers.

http://nfl.com/teams/primer/PIT

Hines
07-23-2007, 03:01 PM
troy signed

4 year-30 mill contract

S4L
07-23-2007, 03:17 PM
troy signed

4 year-30 mill contract

Five-year, $33 million? (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)

Either way, pop the cork off the champagne bottle, kids!

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 04:25 PM
it's 5 year $33M contract "Extension".

Meaning he's ours for the next 6 years.

All the rooks are signed and Polamalu is off the market.

Lets Roll!

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 04:31 PM
Starks Leaked the tomlin fitness test.

http://nflncaafball.blogspot.com/2007/07/starks-leaked-fitness-test.html

16 110 yard dashes. Wow.

mikehop05
07-23-2007, 07:33 PM
Starks Leaked the tomlin fitness test.

http://nflncaafball.blogspot.com/2007/07/starks-leaked-fitness-test.html

16 110 yard dashes. Wow.

thats not so bad really, sucks for casey hampton though

mikehop05
07-23-2007, 07:35 PM
it's 5 year $33M contract "Extension".

Meaning he's ours for the next 6 years.

All the rooks are signed and Polamalu is off the market.

Lets Roll!

the best 33mil ever spent right there

steelernation77
07-23-2007, 07:45 PM
Starks Leaked the tomlin fitness test.

http://nflncaafball.blogspot.com/2007/07/starks-leaked-fitness-test.html

16 110 yard dashes. Wow.

My high school team did the same thing last summer

mikehop05
07-23-2007, 07:47 PM
My high school team did the same thing last summer

yeah we did that too when i was in school

http://news.steelers.com/article/78473/

everyone did well on the running though

Mr. Stiller
07-23-2007, 08:08 PM
Man.. I'm sick of this site..

Seriously. I can understand the "Ben is overrated" because you can make legit arguments. Even though they're full of holes, they're legit.

Whereas Troy? Seriously..

"Troy is the most overrated safety in the league. Because of his hair and heritage.". That is just beyond reproach.


We're consistently a above .500 team, yet every single player is either overrated, or just a solid role player.

Hines
07-24-2007, 01:35 AM
hey stiller do u post on the steelers website

Sniper
07-24-2007, 02:00 AM
Man.. I'm sick of this site..

Seriously. I can understand the "Ben is overrated" because you can make legit arguments. Even though they're full of holes, they're legit.

Whereas Troy? Seriously..

"Troy is the most overrated safety in the league. Because of his hair and heritage.". That is just beyond reproach.


We're consistently a above .500 team, yet every single player is either overrated, or just a solid role player.

Troy is definitely not overrated. Dude is a playmaker, one of the top safeties in football.

Mr. Stiller
07-24-2007, 02:21 AM
hey stiller do u post on the steelers website

nah, too many half-wits.

I post on steelers.scout.com (Worth the $75 a year)
and Here to keep in touch with you guys and keep you up to date.

Mr. Stiller
07-24-2007, 02:22 AM
Troy is definitely not overrated. Dude is a playmaker, one of the top safeties in football.

It's frustrating. We have an Elite LG, NT, SS... A couple guys on the bubble...WR, RB, FS, TE, RDE, CB.

But even though we have THE best record in the past 15 years.. we don't have jack squat on the roster.


In that case Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata are by far the most overrated players in the league.

PittPete
07-24-2007, 09:55 AM
Remember how we were the most overrated team in football in 2005? I hope we are overrated again. By the way I almost fell out of my seat when I saw that the steelers signed Levon Kirkland. But then it is as a scouting intern. Him and Earl Holmes were monsters at runstuffing, but then the NFL went passhappy and Cowher had to adjust. I always thought Kirkland should have tried to become a defensive lineman. He was too big to be a backer and would have been one of the faster lineman. anyways, its another big season, girls. Lets take it to em!!!

Sniper
07-24-2007, 09:59 AM
It's frustrating. We have an Elite LG, NT, SS... A couple guys on the bubble...WR, RB, FS, TE, RDE, CB.

But even though we have THE best record in the past 15 years.. we don't have jack squat on the roster.


In that case Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata are by far the most overrated players in the league.

Well I don't know about the Ravens players being overrated. I think they're pretty damn good players and I like Reed as the best safety in football. That being said, Pittsburgh gets a bum rep from everyone at ESPN it seems like. I'm interested in seeing Big Ben bounce back this year, I think he's a good QB and makes very good decisions usually. Parker is fun to watch too. I expect Holmes to have a pretty good year too.

mikehop05
07-24-2007, 10:32 AM
Well I don't know about the Ravens players being overrated. I think they're pretty damn good players and I like Reed as the best safety in football. That being said, Pittsburgh gets a bum rep from everyone at ESPN it seems like. I'm interested in seeing Big Ben bounce back this year, I think he's a good QB and makes very good decisions usually. Parker is fun to watch too. I expect Holmes to have a pretty good year too.

^^ i like this guy

Hines
07-24-2007, 12:31 PM
timmons is pretty yoked

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/futuresteeler86/07_TC_72307_Timmons_78496.jpg


and hines is crazy man
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/futuresteeler86/07_TC_72307_Ward_78497.jpg

Man_Of_Steel
07-24-2007, 12:46 PM
timmons is pretty yoked

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/futuresteeler86/07_TC_72307_Timmons_78496.jpg


and hines is crazy man
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/futuresteeler86/07_TC_72307_Ward_78497.jpg

Haha, great pics.

mikehop05
07-24-2007, 02:05 PM
i think its funny that all these guys are living in crappy dorms for weeks...

i mean these high profile players are stuck in rooms smaller than their closets in their houses... gotta make for an interesting time

mikehop05
07-24-2007, 02:08 PM
steelers interested in aaron brooks via pft

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

i dont think the move is a bad one, brooks is a good athlete and can compete wit batch for the #2 role, though i think batch will win out im not sure how long he'll stay in pittsburgh as he is one of the better backups in the nfl right now... having said that if we can get brooks for next to nothing it certainly won't hurt

brat316
07-24-2007, 02:11 PM
He would make a good #3, slash trick play guy if he can catch a little bit

Man_Of_Steel
07-24-2007, 02:27 PM
steelers interested in aaron brooks via pft

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

i dont think the move is a bad one, brooks is a good athlete and can compete wit batch for the #2 role, though i think batch will win out im not sure how long he'll stay in pittsburgh as he is one of the better backups in the nfl right now... having said that if we can get brooks for next to nothing it certainly won't hurt

I really, really hope this is false, he is prob my one of my least liked Qb's and Ive repeatedly called him the worst QB in the league.

Hines
07-24-2007, 02:43 PM
stiller any info from this mornins practice..or afternoon practice

DeathbyStat
07-24-2007, 03:03 PM
i was there and people had the leave the area because of lightning so I left and went home....i'll probly be back tommarrow if the weather holds up

steelernation77
07-24-2007, 03:41 PM
I was thinking about posting this in its own thread because it's THAT good but here's a link to a blog by a reporter who is at Training Camp

By my scoring, the offense won the drill by a slight margin, with undrafted rookie running back Gary Russell showing very good skills as a blocker on blitz pickup. Russell stoned Clint Kriewaldt, Lawrence Timmons, Larry Foote and Richard Koonce in his one-on-one blocking, showing good leverage.

Davenport had the drill's most embarrassing moment, getting run over by rookie linebacker LaMarr Woodley on the final repetition of the drill for a pancake into the quarterback.

http://www.o-ronline.net/weblog/football/

Sniper
07-24-2007, 03:45 PM
I was thinking about posting this in its on thread because its THAT good but here's a link to a blog by a reporter who is at Training Camp





http://www.o-ronline.net/weblog/football/

Words can't express my jealousy that you guys have LaMarr Woodley. I wanted him so badly for the Eagles, you guys are getting a beast.

Mr. Stiller
07-24-2007, 05:16 PM
stiller any info from this mornins practice..or afternoon practice

Per Dale Lolley at SCI:

Morning July 24th:

Backs on Backers
Gary Russell was very impressive at Backs on Backers.. he stoned Timmons, Kreidwaldt, Foote and Koonce showing Impressive leverage.

Harrison owned Parker, Barlow, Croom and it was nearly a stalemate with Najeh.

LaMarr Woodley ran over Davenport.

Punt Returns:
Return guys were Ced Wilson, Dan Sheldon, Chris Jackson, Jovon Johnson, Nate Washington and Ricardo Colclough.. only Ced fumbled.


Afternoon July 24th: (Inside due to weather, No pads/Hitting)

Ben Worked with Sean Mahan and Chukky Okobi on the side of the Gym to correct the snapping problem they were having. During a fake field goal play.

Ben Later worked with Willie Parker on receptions throwing him 30 different passes at differing heights/angles.

Lawrence Timmons overtook Arnold Harrison as the #2 ROLB.



Is it just me or does it really sound like Ben is going that extra mile to be a leader.

Mr. Stiller
07-24-2007, 05:17 PM
Is there anything in paticular you guys would like to find out?

I could ask Wex/Dale if they could investigate.

Hines
07-24-2007, 05:19 PM
Is there anything in paticular you guys would like to find out?

I could ask Wex/Dale if they could investigate.


i just wanna know how everything during practice went

how everyone is looking...whos sucking..whos looking sharp

and what udfa's are doing really really good

Man_Of_Steel
07-24-2007, 05:19 PM
Is there anything in paticular you guys would like to find out?

I could ask Wex/Dale if they could investigate.

How is McFadden doing, Smith/Clark battle, is Reid most likley to be the returner.

brat316
07-24-2007, 05:38 PM
Who is winning for the LB spot with Harrison, Timmons, Woodley.

Mr. Stiller
07-24-2007, 05:38 PM
I really, really hope this is false, he is prob my one of my least liked Qb's and Ive repeatedly called him the worst QB in the league.

I'd rather have a guy with a 56% career QB Rating (Including his black hole year)

with 123 Td's to 92 INT's..

He's not great, but if Ben/Charlie get injured, atleast we have a game proven and experienced QB that can give it a go, unlike when we have had completely worthless #3's...

BSP, Maddox.. etc.


Of course:

Will Proctor, Clemson
Jeff Ballard, TCU
James Pinkney, East Carolina
Steven Moffet, South Florida
Bryan Cupito, Minnesota

Are available
WE SHOULD"VE SIGNED CULLEN FINNERTY DAMMIT!

Mr. Stiller
07-24-2007, 05:42 PM
Who is winning for the LB spot with Harrison, Timmons, Woodley.

Our LB lineup is right now..

1(L to R): Clark Haggans ~ James Farrior ~ Larry Foote ~ James Harrison
2(L to R): LaMarr Woodley ~ Rian Wallace ~ Clint Kreidwaldt ~ Lawrence Timmons
3(L to R): Marcello Church ~ Richard Koonce ~ Derrick Rehage ~ Arnold Harrison

Sniper
07-25-2007, 12:02 AM
Our LB lineup is right now..

1(L to R): Clark Haggans ~ James Farrior ~ Larry Foote ~ James Harrison
2(L to R): LaMarr Woodley ~ Rian Wallace ~ Clint Kreidwaldt ~ Lawrence Timmons
3(L to R): Marcello Church ~ Richard Koonce ~ Derrick Rehage ~ Arnold Harrison

Do you expect Woodley to get a lot of reps on passing downs?

mikehop05
07-25-2007, 11:00 AM
Do you expect Woodley to get a lot of reps on passing downs?

yeah i was reading an article either on steelers.com or ppg that said as of now they expect woodley to get some PT mainly on pass-rushing downs

Mr. Stiller
07-25-2007, 11:25 AM
yeah i was reading an article either on steelers.com or ppg that said as of now they expect woodley to get some PT mainly on pass-rushing downs

Yea the 3rd down sets will be using Woodley and Timmons a lot.

Hines
07-25-2007, 03:55 PM
an article with ike taylor that talks about football,music,ect

i liked it


http://allhiphop.com/blogs/lifestylesports/archive/2007/07/25/18309016.aspx

Man_Of_Steel
07-26-2007, 01:28 PM
an article with ike taylor that talks about football,music,ect

i liked it


http://allhiphop.com/blogs/lifestylesports/archive/2007/07/25/18309016.aspx

Not a bad article.

Man_Of_Steel
07-26-2007, 01:28 PM
How is McFadden doing, Smith/Clark battle, is Reid most likley to be the returner.

Any news on this.

Mr. Stiller
07-26-2007, 08:06 PM
Any news on this.

Timmons reinjured his groin. Though he reinjured it picking off Charlie Batch

Woodley has only been stopped by 1 guy... and his name is Willie Colon.

They did a set of Backs on Dbacks.

Troy/An Smith were unstoppable. Also it's the second day in a row that Anthony Smith completely rocked Willie Reid.

John Kuhn and Carey Davis are both outplaying Kevan Barlow.

terribletowel39
07-26-2007, 08:20 PM
so i think it has been decided that we are going to have the baddest ass safety tandem in the league.

did Reid atleast get rocked after a 20-30 yard punt return??

that sucks that Timmons reinjured his groin.

Barlow isn't a big suprise.

Mr. Stiller
07-26-2007, 08:21 PM
so i think it has been decided that we are going to have the baddest ass safety tandem in the league.

did Reid atleast get rocked after a 20-30 yard punt return??

that sucks that Timmons reinjured his groin.

Barlow isn't a big suprise.


No yesterday it was a fly pattern where smith helped over the top... (LIke the TJ hit).. and the other was Reid doing a crossing pattern and just got jacked.

Sniper
07-26-2007, 08:21 PM
so i think it has been decided that we are going to have the baddest ass safety tandem in the league.



Sean Taylor and Laron Landry say hi.

terribletowel39
07-26-2007, 08:44 PM
Sean Taylor and Laron Landry say hi.
troy is better than sean taylor and laron while i believe he will be awesome, hasn't done anything. they have the chance of being the best but as of right now......gotta give it to us. :-) no homerism there though.

terribletowel39
07-26-2007, 08:47 PM
No yesterday it was a fly pattern where smith helped over the top... (LIke the TJ hit).. and the other was Reid doing a crossing pattern and just got jacked.

i hope he didn't honestly hit his own teammate though the same way he hit TJ, i don't want Reid out for another year. i actually want to see what he can do.

Mr. Stiller
07-26-2007, 08:54 PM
i hope he didn't honestly hit his own teammate though the same way he hit TJ, i don't want Reid out for another year. i actually want to see what he can do.

I rewatched Reids plays last year.. he is amazing.

He didn't blast him that bad.. but TOmlins stressing physicallity.

Man_Of_Steel
07-26-2007, 09:01 PM
I rewatched Reids plays last year.. he is amazing.

He didn't blast him that bad.. but TOmlins stressing physicallity.

Im excited to have Reid returning this week.

terribletowel39
07-26-2007, 09:22 PM
I rewatched Reids plays last year.. he is amazing.

He didn't blast him that bad.. but TOmlins stressing physicallity.

Im excited to have Reid returning this week.
thats one thing all you guys that are actually up there have to report on how he does returning and what not. and how are new punter does punting him the ball.

Sniper
07-26-2007, 09:26 PM
troy is better than sean taylor and laron while i believe he will be awesome, hasn't done anything. they have the chance of being the best but as of right now......gotta give it to us. :-) no homerism there though.

You make a valid point. I do think by the end of the year LaRon Landry's ridiculousness will show, and Taylor and Landry will be recognized as the best safety tandem. Ed Reed and Dawan Landry could also make a case as well.

Man_Of_Steel
07-26-2007, 09:28 PM
Sniper your posting in here alot lately, are you a Pitt fan?

Sniper
07-26-2007, 09:30 PM
Sniper your posting in here alot lately, are you a Pitt fan?

I am not a Steelers fan, but I don't hate them. I saw a post on LaMarr Woodley, threw in my two cents and have actually been enjoying the conversation in here. I try to catch the Steelers on occasion, they've got a good team and I'm a big Woodley fan.

terribletowel39
07-26-2007, 09:44 PM
You make a valid point. I do think by the end of the year LaRon Landry's ridiculousness will show, and Taylor and Landry will be recognized as the best safety tandem. Ed Reed and Dawan Landry could also make a case as well.
very true. they too have a very good case. and i am an LSU fan through and through so for four years i have seen what Landry can do and i will not be surprised if Landry has no problem making the tradition into the NFL.

I am not a Steelers fan, but I don't hate them. I saw a post on LaMarr Woodley, threw in my two cents and have actually been enjoying the conversation in here. I try to catch the Steelers on occasion, they've got a good team and I'm a big Woodley fan.
so what team are you a fan of??

Sniper
07-26-2007, 10:02 PM
very true. they too have a very good case. and i am an LSU fan through and through so for four years i have seen what Landry can do and i will not be surprised if Landry has no problem making the tradition into the NFL.


so what team are you a fan of??

Philly. Maybe one of these years hell will freeze over and we'll win ;)

skarocksoi
07-27-2007, 09:12 AM
I should probably hate you because you are a fan of two teams I absolutely despise, but I'll let it slide. Since you are a philly fan though, could you give some info on how Tony Hunt is doing and if he's signed a contract or not. Thanks.

PS sorry for the off-topic-ness of this post

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 11:19 AM
Damn Timmons stop getting injured.

Sniper
07-27-2007, 01:22 PM
I should probably hate you because you are a fan of two teams I absolutely despise, but I'll let it slide. Since you are a philly fan though, could you give some info on how Tony Hunt is doing and if he's signed a contract or not. Thanks.

PS sorry for the off-topic-ness of this post

I know Tony has signed a contract. I believe it's a 4 year deal. Haven't seen or heard much on OTA and such but I plan on stopping by training camp because it's 20 minutes away from my house. From what I hear they want him to be the short yardage/goal line guy. I think Buckhalter has exhausted his chances. Despite my hatred for PSU I was ecstatic to see them snag Hunt.

"Offensive coordinator Marty Morningweg says Tony Hunt is showing the kind of progress they like to see out of young players."

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 01:24 PM
Prior to the draft many fans on here thought Hunt peed gold, I never liked him all that much.

Hines
07-27-2007, 01:25 PM
any word on practice this morning

any udfa's making big splashes

Sniper
07-27-2007, 01:26 PM
Prior to the draft many fans on here thought Hunt peed gold, I never liked him all that much.

He'd be a good fit with you guys though. Perfect complement to Parker.

Hines
07-27-2007, 01:27 PM
He'd be a good fit with you guys though. Perfect complement to Parker.

i like barlow,davenport and russell too much

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 01:28 PM
He'd be a good fit with you guys though. Perfect complement to Parker.

There were alot of guys Id of rather had thad than Hunt RB wise.

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 01:29 PM
i like barlow,davenport and russell too much

I dont like our backups at all.

Hines
07-27-2007, 01:30 PM
I dont like our backups at all.

i do...i really like russell.daventport is pretty good.barlow can do good with a good line.

steelernation77
07-27-2007, 01:33 PM
I'm in a chat with Mike Pristua right now and he said that Carey Davis has a better chance of making the team than Russell, Anyone have any questions they want me to ask Pristua?

Hines
07-27-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm in a chat with Mike Pristua right now and he said that Carey Davis has a better chance of making the team than Russell

well carey davis is a tweener,like kuhn,but i really like davis as well and he coudl be a steal and a good player

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm in a chat with Mike Pristua right now and he said that Carey Davis has a better chance of making the team than Russell

Finally someone who agrees that Russell is as useless as a poopey flavored lollypop.

steelernation77
07-27-2007, 01:37 PM
Finally someone who agrees that Russell is as useless as a poopey flavored lollypop.

Pristua is saying that Darnell Stapleton, the UDFA center from Rutgers, is looking good and has a good chance to make the practice squad

Hines
07-27-2007, 01:39 PM
Pristua is saying that Darnell Stapleton, the UDFA center from Rutgers, is looking good and has a good chance to make the practice squad

anyone else..liek a reciever or that one de

steelernation77
07-27-2007, 01:40 PM
anyone else..liek a reciever or that one de

I asked what Dallas Baker's chances of making the team were and he said they were "decent." He said that he's big, and doesn't look out of place in camp.

steelernation77
07-27-2007, 01:41 PM
He said that he thinks Mahan gets the C job and that Okobi gets cut

Hines
07-27-2007, 01:44 PM
He said that he thinks Mahan gets the C job and that Okobi gets cut

where u see this at?

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 01:46 PM
He said that he thinks Mahan gets the C job and that Okobi gets cut

Thats gonna be interesting.

steelernation77
07-27-2007, 01:46 PM
where u see this at?

http://chat.pittsburghlive.com/newsroom/

Hines
07-27-2007, 01:46 PM
http://chat.pittsburghlive.com/newsroom/

i just signed in

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 01:59 PM
Post what you hear.

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 03:45 PM
http://chat.pittsburghlive.com/newsroom/

Any news from this.

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 04:25 PM
As soon as anyone has word on Pitts TC post it.

Mr. Stiller
07-27-2007, 05:08 PM
Finally someone who agrees that Russell is as useless as a poopey flavored lollypop.

Actually Russell has been our best blocking RB in TC. During Backs on Backers, he's the only one that hasn't given up the QB.. not once.

As for Davis.. He's also been in the league.. what 4 years now?

I like Davis as our version of MJD... small.. compact.. powerful, but I still think Russell might be our second UDFA homerun once he gets a year or 2 on the PS.

Mr. Stiller
07-27-2007, 05:09 PM
He said that he thinks Mahan gets the C job and that Okobi gets cut

I think I said this about 2 months ago.

Okobi refuses to take a pay cut and their not going to pay a guy $2.1M/yr to site behind Mahan, without the ability to play Guard.

steelernation77
07-27-2007, 05:10 PM
Any news from this.

There should be a transcript posted eventually, when it is I'll put it up.

Here's a schedule of chats with reporters from the Tribune Review:

As part of PghTrib.com's Training Camp features, they'll be holding chats with several of the sports staff. Here's the schedule:

(all chats start at 2 p.m.)

Here's the link to the chat room:
http://chat.pittsburghlive.com/newsroom/

Here's the lineup:

Monday, July 30 with Scott Brown

Friday, August 3 with John Harris

Monday, August 6 with Prisuta

Friday, August 10 with Brown

Monday, August 13 with Harris

Friday, August 17 with Joe Starkey

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 06:00 PM
There should be a transcript posted eventually, when it is I'll put it up.

Here's a schedule of chats with reporters from the Tribune Review:

As part of PghTrib.com's Training Camp features, they'll be holding chats with several of the sports staff. Here's the schedule:

(all chats start at 2 p.m.)

Here's the link to the chat room:
http://chat.pittsburghlive.com/newsroom/

Here's the lineup:

Monday, July 30 with Scott Brown

Friday, August 3 with John Harris

Monday, August 6 with Prisuta

Friday, August 10 with Brown

Monday, August 13 with Harris

Friday, August 17 with Joe Starkey

good to know.

Mr. Stiller
07-27-2007, 07:10 PM
good to know.


They should Just get Tunch/Ilkin and Wex/Lolley.. they actually know football.

Hines
07-27-2007, 07:16 PM
im still interested to see what udfa's are making a splash

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 07:20 PM
I still want to know how McFadden is doing.

Mr. Stiller
07-27-2007, 07:35 PM
im still interested to see what udfa's are making a splash

Derrick Jones is looking like a 1yr redshirt player, like Keisel.. 1 on the PS and then a demon.

Eric Fowler is showing that he's physical, smart and amazing catcher.. just still slow.

Darnell Stapleton is going to make the PS at worst.. he took over 3rd string C over Marvin Phillip.. in fact they moved Phillip to LG.

Gary Russell looks like a 1 year redshirter too. He looks great as a blocker and receiver, just needs about a season on the PS to return to Minnesota form.

thats about all I hear, that and Willie Reid and Bryant McFadden are looking great thus far.

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 07:49 PM
I have loved McFadden since day 1.

Mr. Stiller
07-27-2007, 08:00 PM
I have loved McFadden since day 1.

They think this is his best year to possibly unseat DeShea.

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 08:24 PM
They think this is his best year to possibly unseat DeShea.

Taylor is the wildcard in all that.

Mr. Stiller
07-27-2007, 09:27 PM
Taylor is the wildcard in all that.

Taylor is the #1 and they are more than certain about that.

Man_Of_Steel
07-27-2007, 10:58 PM
Taylor is the #1 and they are more than certain about that.

He was also the #1 last year and look what happened.

Mr. Stiller
07-27-2007, 11:10 PM
He was also the #1 last year and look what happened.

Name me 1 player that looked like they were focused.. not named Willie Parker.

No one looked like they playing hard.

Last year he regressed, but they're saying he's in amazing shape.

Man_Of_Steel
07-28-2007, 01:29 AM
Name me 1 player that looked like they were focused.. not named Willie Parker.

No one looked like they playing hard.

Last year he regressed, but they're saying he's in amazing shape.

Ike is and has always been in great shape, its his confidence that was down last year and therefore he was timid to play tight like the previous year on guys because he might get burned.

Mr. Stiller
07-28-2007, 11:24 AM
Ike is and has always been in great shape, its his confidence that was down last year and therefore he was timid to play tight like the previous year on guys because he might get burned.

Which isn't the case this year. They have him focused. He's actually intercepting passes, not just knocking em down.

He's also showing some more potential than they ever thought he had according to the secondary coach.

skarocksoi
07-28-2007, 12:01 PM
I always liked Ike. Everybody said our corners weren't any good and I was so happy to see Ike flourish the year we went to the superbowl, but I had to eat some crow last year after his poor performance. I hope he is back on track this year and goes above and beyond his previous form.

Man_Of_Steel
07-28-2007, 01:17 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/SteelersCampReport.htm

Apparently our rookies are bad singers.

DeathbyStat
07-28-2007, 05:40 PM
I attended Training Camp on Thursday so here are a few of my thoughts on what i saw.

During stretches Hines had his own personal trainer working him over....it was quite funny as a guy behind me yelled out that Hines was just like Barry Bonds because he got his own special trainer.

Ben looked very out of sinc with the offense his accuracy was awful and at one point he pumped faked about four times and attempted to scramble. I wouldn't read to much into this because i've been to many training camp sessions in the past and Ben never looks all that impressive...I guess he is a gamer and doesn't always look great in practice.

Santonio and Timmons were awol but I guess everyone is already aware of this . Holmes was on field but didn't practice and I didn't spot Timmons but he might have been there as well but didn't practice.

Heath Miller made a sick one handed grab without the use of gloves.

The first team offense was almost exclusively centered around Willie and Hines and I don't think there was any doubt Willie was the best steeler player on the field at any position.

Anthony Smith made a great hit on Willie Reed even though the drill was meant to be no contact. The hit caused the crowd to let out a gaggle of oooohs and ahhhs. To Reed's credit he made the catch and stood up and gave Smith credit for a job well done.

Speaking of Reed he broke an excellent kick off return.

Woodly seemed very stiff in pass coverage, I hope we plan on using him as mostly a situational pass rusher.

Willie Parker and Najeh Davenport burned linebacker and Defensive backs for long gains in passing drills that pitted the backs and Tight Ends against the Linebackers and Defensive Backs in one one coverage.

RB Carey Davis and John Kunhn looked really impressive as each broke big runs .

Dallas Baker had a lot of trouble catching the ball with his hands as he keeped catching it in his body.

WR Dan Sheldon looked really crisp in his route running and could develop into an excellent slot receiver.

JayA55
07-28-2007, 05:45 PM
I attended Training Camp on Thursday so here are a few of my thoughts on what i saw.

During stretches Hines had his own personal trainer working him over....it was quite funny as a guy behind me yelled out that Hines was just like Barry Bonds because he got his own special trainer.

Ben looked very out of sinc with the offense his accuracy was awful and at one point he pumped faked about four times and attempted to scramble. I wouldn't read to much into this because i've been to many training camp sessions in the past and Ben never looks all that impressive...I guess he is a gamer and doesn't always look great in practice.

Santonio and Timmons were awol but I guess everyone is already aware of this . Holmes was on field but didn't practice and I didn't spot Timmons but he might have been there as well but didn't practice.

Heath Miller made a sick one handed grab without the use of gloves.

The first team offense was almost exclusively centered around Willie and Hines and I don't think there was any doubt Willie was the best steeler player on the field at any position.

Anthony Smith made a great hit on Willie Reed even though the drill was meant to be no contact. The hit caused the crowd to let out a gaggle of oooohs and ahhhs. To Reed's credit he made the catch and stood up and gave Smith credit for a job well done.

Speaking of Reed he broke an excellent kick off return.

Woodly seemed very stiff in pass coverage, I hope we plan on using him as mostly a situational pass rusher.

Willie Parker and Najeh Davenport burned linebacker and Defensive backs for long gains in passing drills that pitted the backs and Tight Ends against the Linebackers and Defensive Backs in one one coverage.

RB Carey Davis and John Kunhn looked really impressive as each broke big runs .

Dallas Baker had a lot of trouble catching the ball with his hands as he keeped catching it in his body.

WR Dan Sheldon looked really crisp in his route running and could develop into an excellent slot receiver.


good info thanks. Was Spaeth being used any?

terribletowel39
07-28-2007, 05:48 PM
very nice write up.

Hines
07-28-2007, 06:12 PM
seems like we are really gettin physical out there
i liek it
=)

http://news.steelers.com/article/78896/

steelernation77
07-28-2007, 06:39 PM
seems like we are really gettin physical out there
i liek it
=)

http://news.steelers.com/article/78896/

Hines isn't.

Hines
07-28-2007, 06:40 PM
Hines isn't.

yes i could tell...but hey its football though even though i do understand why he is upset

Man_Of_Steel
07-28-2007, 09:53 PM
yes i could tell...but hey its football though even though i do understand why he is upset

I understand his frusteration, bunch of young guys on the team are not being to smart and Hines prob dosent want to have to deal with making sure he dosent get injured in TC.

DeathbyStat
07-29-2007, 12:13 AM
I attended Training Camp on Thursday so here are a few of my thoughts on what i saw.

During stretches Hines had his own personal trainer working him over....it was quite funny as a guy behind me yelled out that Hines was just like Barry Bonds because he got his own special trainer.

Ben looked very out of sinc with the offense his accuracy was awful and at one point he pumped faked about four times and attempted to scramble. I wouldn't read to much into this because i've been to many training camp sessions in the past and Ben never looks all that impressive...I guess he is a gamer and doesn't always look great in practice.

Santonio and Timmons were awol but I guess everyone is already aware of this . Holmes was on field but didn't practice and I didn't spot Timmons but he might have been there as well but didn't practice.

Heath Miller made a sick one handed grab without the use of gloves.

The first team offense was almost exclusively centered around Willie and Hines and I don't think there was any doubt Willie was the best steeler player on the field at any position.

Anthony Smith made a great hit on Willie Reed even though the drill was meant to be no contact. The hit caused the crowd to let out a gaggle of oooohs and ahhhs. To Reed's credit he made the catch and stood up and gave Smith credit for a job well done.

Speaking of Reed he broke an excellent kick off return.

Woodly seemed very stiff in pass coverage, I hope we plan on using him as mostly a situational pass rusher.

Willie Parker and Najeh Davenport burned linebacker and Defensive backs for long gains in passing drills that pitted the backs and Tight Ends against the Linebackers and Defensive Backs in one one coverage.

RB Carey Davis and John Kunhn looked really impressive as each broke big runs .

Dallas Baker had a lot of trouble catching the ball with his hands as he keeped catching it in his body.

WR Dan Sheldon looked really crisp in his route running and could develop into an excellent slot receiver.

I'm sorry it was Clark that laid that hit on Reed not Smith

steelernation77
07-29-2007, 01:55 PM
so is this Capizzi kid the real deal?

mikehop05
07-29-2007, 04:12 PM
yes i could tell...but hey its football though even though i do understand why he is upset

its one thing to be tough and physical.. another to be laying hits on unsuspecting WR's on your own team in training camp

Man_Of_Steel
07-29-2007, 05:51 PM
its one thing to be tough and physical.. another to be laying hits on unsuspecting WR's on your own team in training camp

My point exactly.

Hines
07-29-2007, 08:28 PM
looks like barlow might not make the team


http://hspennsylvania.scout.com/a.z?s=407&p=2&c=662699

Man_Of_Steel
07-29-2007, 08:36 PM
looks like barlow might not make the team


http://hspennsylvania.scout.com/a.z?s=407&p=2&c=662699

Damn, that means I wont be able to say Baaarrrrrllloooooowwwwww in for the score.

Hines
07-29-2007, 08:40 PM
id rather have russell or davis maybe even croom over barlow

Man_Of_Steel
07-29-2007, 08:44 PM
Croom is about as useful as hunting a bear with a watergun, and Im not talking supersoakers either.

mikehop05
07-29-2007, 09:36 PM
Croom is about as useful as hunting a bear with a watergun, and Im not talking supersoakers either.

some supersoakers are pretty intense, you get the ones with the backpack and everything... they're legit

DeathbyStat
07-29-2007, 10:05 PM
Carey Davis has looked really good in training camp

Man_Of_Steel
07-29-2007, 11:34 PM
Carey Davis has looked really good in training camp

We know. Give us the info that only the ppl watching it live would know, like certain plays and such.

Smooth Criminal
07-30-2007, 08:25 AM
Poor Barlow.

mikehop05
07-30-2007, 10:19 AM
yeah it def sucks for barlow

keisel got to play some offense at the TE position and scored a TD

casey hampton played some FB... and never wants to do it again haha

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 10:31 AM
I want to see Polamalu on offense.

Hines
07-30-2007, 06:02 PM
on steelers.com they are complaining about tyrone carter and say he is a to v2..i personally love the guy because he is just what porter is a defender who likes to talk **** and he can back it up..

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 07:28 PM
on steelers.com they are complaining about tyrone carter and say he is a to v2..i personally love the guy because he is just what porter is a defender who likes to talk **** and he can back it up..

I cant stand carter, hes a decenmt corner who is real good at supporting the run but he seems to me a litlle chiwawawa gog who wont shut up.

Hines
07-30-2007, 07:31 PM
I cant stand carter, hes a decenmt corner who is real good at supporting the run but he seems to me a litlle chiwawawa gog who wont shut up.

carters a saftey

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 07:34 PM
carters a saftey

hes listed as a safety but really never plays it. He's in on nickel/ moreso dime packages as a corner.

Hines
07-30-2007, 08:25 PM
steelers signed marquis cooper again and released cornerback harrison smith

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 10:00 PM
steelers signed marquis cooper again and released cornerback harrison smith

Link?
...........

Hines
07-30-2007, 10:02 PM
Link?
...........

its on rotoworld

dont feel like gettin it...too lazy

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 10:09 PM
its on rotoworld

dont feel like gettin it...too lazy

Booooooooooo

Hines
07-30-2007, 10:21 PM
Steelers claimed LB Marquis Cooper off waivers from the Seahawks.

To make room, Pittsburgh waived reserve cornerback/safety Harrison Smith. Cooper will attempt to make the club as an outside linebacker and gunner.

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 10:54 PM
Steelers claimed LB Marquis Cooper off waivers from the Seahawks.

To make room, Pittsburgh waived reserve cornerback/safety Harrison Smith. Cooper will attempt to make the club as an outside linebacker and gunner.

thats big time.

Hines
07-30-2007, 10:54 PM
thats big time.

its for depth

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 11:07 PM
its for depth

I take it you cant tell sarcasim.

Hines
07-30-2007, 11:16 PM
I take it you cant tell sarcasim.

no i can just saying

glennjamen3
07-30-2007, 11:16 PM
sarcasm can be very tough to pick up on over the internet... very tough

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 11:17 PM
sarcasm can be very tough to pick up on over the internet... very tough

Pretty self explanitory though.

glennjamen3
07-30-2007, 11:26 PM
uhh... yeah... i guess it is

anyway steelers are looking pretty good this season. I'm excited for this saints game. i cant wait to see all the draft picks play

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 11:31 PM
This Sunday, I really want to see Fowler.

Hines
07-30-2007, 11:32 PM
lucky u guys can watch the game..i cant

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 11:38 PM
lucky u guys can watch the game..i cant

why cant you?

Hines
07-30-2007, 11:42 PM
why cant you?

i have football camp
gr

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 11:44 PM
i have football camp
gr

That late at night?

Hines
07-30-2007, 11:45 PM
That late at night?

its from saturday to monday

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 11:48 PM
its from saturday to monday

Tough Break.

Hines
07-30-2007, 11:51 PM
Tough Break.

ya no **** man...i hate it..and to top it all off i might not be able to go to the steeler-cards game this year

Man_Of_Steel
07-30-2007, 11:55 PM
ya no **** man...i hate it..and to top it all off i might not be able to go to the steeler-cards game this year

Tape the game, its tough but it aint the end of the world.

mikehop05
07-31-2007, 03:04 PM
hes listed as a safety but really never plays it. He's in on nickel/ moreso dime packages as a corner.

he plays a backup safety and yes he plays asa rover type also in the nickle and dime packages

Man_Of_Steel
07-31-2007, 04:36 PM
he plays a backup safety and yes he plays asa rover type also in the nickle and dime packages

He dosent play rover.

terribletowel39
07-31-2007, 06:18 PM
i'm pretty sure you both are wrong. isn't he a guard??

Man_Of_Steel
07-31-2007, 08:47 PM
i'm pretty sure you both are wrong. isn't he a guard??

i really hope your kidding.

ironman4579
07-31-2007, 08:57 PM
I found this article about Woodley getting reps with the first team because of an injury. Doesn't sound like he's doing too bad for you guys, although no doubt he'll sit and learn this season. The article isn't bad, although I have no idea where the end of it is, and it lists him with too many TFL's and too few sacks(article says 7 when he had 12), but otherwise not bad.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/OR/Story/7_30_Woodley_with_first_team

MoMoney717
08-01-2007, 12:48 AM
deacon heffernen?!?! I take it someone watches the King of Queens

terribletowel39
08-01-2007, 01:01 AM
i really hope your kidding.
what?? no.....pppff...:-D ;)

robert_in_bigd
08-01-2007, 10:06 AM
How is Woodley playing?

What positions are they trying him out in?

Any comments???

mikehop05
08-01-2007, 10:38 AM
How is Woodley playing?

What positions are they trying him out in?

Any comments???

right now he has the best chance of any defensive rookie to get signiciant PT

he'll most likely come in on passing scenarios to rush the QB

robert_in_bigd
08-01-2007, 11:16 AM
right now he has the best chance of any defensive rookie to get signiciant PT

he'll most likely come in on passing scenarios to rush the QB

Rumors he would also play some ILB. Any word on that?

mikehop05
08-01-2007, 12:52 PM
Rumors he would also play some ILB. Any word on that?

thats more likely timmons than it is woodley

ironman4579
08-01-2007, 01:02 PM
Woodley was recruited as a 5 star ILB though. But you're right, it's more likely Timmons than Woodley.

Man_Of_Steel
08-01-2007, 01:16 PM
Sunday cant come soon enough.

DeathbyStat
08-01-2007, 02:31 PM
Whats the deal with Willie's knee....ESPN said he won't play on sunday

mikehop05
08-01-2007, 02:43 PM
Whats the deal with Willie's knee....ESPN said he won't play on sunday

i think they're having a small press conference on it soon

Hines
08-01-2007, 02:46 PM
Willie Parker missed practice again Wednesday, making it unlikely he'll play in the Hall of Fame game this weekend.

The Steelers have been practicing longer and harder than any team. Parker has missed two straight practices and may sit out the rest of the week with "soreness and swelling" in his knee. It's not expected to be a serious problem.

Hines
08-01-2007, 03:13 PM
Kendall Simmons has secured the Steelers' starting right guard job.

Simmons, who is in a contract season, will likely receive a big pay day on the 2008 market along with left guard Alan Faneca and right tackle Max Starks.

Smooth Criminal
08-01-2007, 03:39 PM
With Willie out Russell has been taking most of his reps at RB with the #2 team offense. Willie's injury is gonna give us a nice look at our backups to see which ones we are keeping. It doesn't seem like anything to serious thankfully.

steelernation77
08-01-2007, 03:46 PM
With Willie out Russell has been taking most of his reps at RB with the #2 team offense. Willie's injury is gonna give us a nice look at our backups to see which ones we are keeping. It doesn't seem like anything to serious thankfully.

So will Davenport start then? I'm starting to disagree with Pristua's assessment of Russell's shot at making the team. I keep reading positive things about him, I think there's a good chance he gets a roster spot.

ironman4579
08-01-2007, 04:35 PM
Another couple articles for you guys on Woodley. Sorry guys, I'm a Michigan fan, and like to keep up with the guys. It also seems to dispel any notion he'd be playing inside, just based on reasoning, nothing actually said though.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07213/805865-66.stm

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18624453&BRD=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478568&rfi=6

Smooth Criminal
08-01-2007, 05:03 PM
Najeh will start if Willie can't go. He has been taking reps as the backup all training camp so I don't see why he wouldn't be the next in line if Willie doesn't play.

I have heard only good things about Russell from camp so far and he has been playing as the #3 back in camp so he would move up to #2 with Willie out.

mikehop05
08-01-2007, 07:35 PM
Another couple articles for you guys on Woodley. Sorry guys, I'm a Michigan fan, and like to keep up with the guys. It also seems to dispel any notion he'd be playing inside, just based on reasoning, nothing actually said though.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07213/805865-66.stm

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18624453&BRD=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478568&rfi=6

they really like him on the outside, i dont see him changing positions... except to maybe a DE in the 4 - 3

mikehop05
08-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Najeh will start if Willie can't go. He has been taking reps as the backup all training camp so I don't see why he wouldn't be the next in line if Willie doesn't play.

I have heard only good things about Russell from camp so far and he has been playing as the #3 back in camp so he would move up to #2 with Willie out.

i can see davenport playing 2 - 3 series

then barlow / russell / haynes getting the most of the PT

Man_Of_Steel
08-01-2007, 09:41 PM
Im most excited to just see Tomlin manning the sideline, thats what Im looking forward to.

Hines
08-01-2007, 09:44 PM
i have a new top five steelers

hines
willie
smith
foote
ike

last year it was
hines
joey
troy
ike
willie
farrior

Man_Of_Steel
08-01-2007, 09:46 PM
i have a new top five steelers

hines
willie
smith
foote
ike

last year it was
hines
joey
troy
ike
willie
farrior

How can troy not be in your top 5?

Hines
08-01-2007, 09:46 PM
How can troy not be in your top 5?

i really love the dude man..but idk hes six this year

Man_Of_Steel
08-01-2007, 10:08 PM
booooooooo.

mikehop05
08-01-2007, 10:25 PM
i really love the dude man..but idk hes six this year

thats un-steeler like

mine would have to be

ben
troy
hines
smith
heath
willie ( he's my 5b.)

Hines
08-02-2007, 12:10 AM
he needs to stop bitching and play...i say cut him


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07214/806343-66.stm

Man_Of_Steel
08-02-2007, 12:24 AM
he needs to stop bitching and play...i say cut him


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07214/806343-66.stm

I said to cut him a while ago. We have young talent that needs oppurtunity and playing time.